001Good. >> All good. Uh if we can reconvene to open session. The board has been in executive session since six o'clock um to discuss uh some professional personnel matters uh contractual matter and uh some retreat planning. If we could stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Introductions. Dave Hurst, John Walston, >> Robert Teen, >> Jody Monroe, Holly Danbal, >> Yan Mcnite, >> Lauren Graco, uh, and Katherine Nadow, and Meredith Morerti are not able to be here tonight. Um, and John McFillips is also not with us tonight. Um, first up is our approval of minutes. It is recommended that the super by the superintendent
002that the board of education approve the minutes from the July 1st, 2025 organizational board meeting. >> So moved. >> Second. Uh any discussion? All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Uh that carries. Um and then next is our superintendent report. >> Sure. Thank you. Uh just a couple of notes regarding the beginning of the school year. Uh so we are preparing for the start of the new school year. Schedules and teacher assignments uh will be posted this Friday, August 15th for students and parents. counselors uh at the middle and high school do return next week. So any questions parents or students may have should be able to connect with them at that time. Uh we also will be sending out back to school information um in the coming weeks. I encourage all parents to
003review the materials carefully. There are a few updates to our attendance policy um that was approved by the board of education last spring uh that families should be aware of. Uh, and I'd also like to express my sincere appreciation to our operations and maintenance department, our custodians, their hard work. Um, this summer, often in some very high temperatures, uh, to work and ensure classrooms and spaces are ready to welcome students and staff for the year ahead. So, I'd like to thank them. Um, I also wanted just to provide a quick update. Uh this year at the start of the year we have a committee formed to review the elementary zones of attendance. Uh we had a very brief meeting with uh not all the committee but some of the committee at the end of the
004school year. It was disrupted from power outages. It was during that week that was very hot. So we didn't have a long meeting. Uh but a couple of weeks ago um the district admin team met with the consultants and Tyler Technologies to just review process. Uh the two consultants were on site today. Uh they went to all of our elementary schools with the facilities, reviewed all the facilities, met with the principles to go over any spaces they had questions about. I met with them today to go over the um current elementary zones um with transportation and then we also have the maps um a year or so ago that the town provided us that had the updates with the expected building development in the different areas. Uh so they're basically collecting data. They're looking at
005our enrollment trends, demographic data. Our first meeting with the committee will be I believe it's September 10th. Um and we'll be really going through the process that we'll be taking with the consultants and Tyler Technologies. Um what does that look like? Going through the elementary zones facilities. Um they're going to do a couple of um different analysis with the data on the different class sizes. So, I basically gave them the guidance we've been currently using since the pandemic where our class sizes have been smaller, what does that look like for the number of classrooms each building um will have and then how does that affect the enrollment? And then also to do a secondary analysis of, you know, if class sizes are this, what would that look like? So that way it provides us with
006some options. Um so it was a good meeting today. they're going to follow up with additional information. Um, we have to get them some good data um on a couple different areas and then we'll be ready to go in September. So, we have a monthly meeting with the committee that is generally a week or so before each board meeting and then we'll do an update to the board with the goal of final recommendations coming to the board for the December meeting. I did tentatively schedule on the board schedule if we needed a follow-up meeting in January. Uh the goal obviously in ideally would be better if we had it in December because of registration starts in January, but if we needed to go into January for any followup, we can. So that's where we are
007with that process. So I just want to provide an update. Great. So that's all I have for tonight. Anybody have any questions? Uh, next up is the board report. Um, and uh, also thinking about the beginning of the year, September 2nd is opening day. >> Um, and just a reminder to board members who would like to attend, um, the, um, opening day, >> we call it assembly >> Celebration is 8 a.m., correct? I'm looking at you to make sure I'm saying >> 8 a.m. the second >> on the second. um here at the high school. >> Um and uh so if anybody wants to attend, that is when that's happening. Um and then uh on October 16th, uh NISBA is having its annual business meeting. Um and as usual, they are looking for a board
008delegate to participate. Um if anybody is interested, let me know. Um and then uh the other um information I just wanted to share um is that there was a new state law that was signed recently called Disha's law that requires school districts to include cardiac emergency response plans in all district-wide comprehensive safety plans. Um, so, um, that will be, um, part of our our district-wide safety plans going forward. >> Yeah, Jen Dennis actually put together a draft based on the requirements. I'm meeting with her tomorrow to go over it and then we'll review it with all of our administrators for the buildings. So, um, Nick though, I don't think there's they they put that in place late and it says it has to be part of the safety plans, but I think on the state
009ed site there isn't any place to include that. >> Right. >> Correct. >> Yeah. And some provisions are effective right away and there's others are not until 2026, but >> Right. >> Um, I know this is the time of year where we usually start doing updates to those things. So, >> excuse me, if I may. Um, yeah, >> I I don't know if you're aware, but we're well set as far as having the devices. We don't need to at this point purchase anymore. We have 34 ads throughout the district strategically located and all the administrators are of the buildings are aware where they are and we just purchased more last year. So, >> and we have portable as well. >> Yeah, we're in really good shape. >> I assume we also have people trained in
010how to use them, >> correct? Um, anybody have anything else they want to add or share? >> Okay. Um, next are presentations this evening. Um, and we have two. The first is on setting the final tax rate um for our fall 2025 school tax bills. Jody, >> you had to turn the mic on. Oh. Good. >> All right. So, I'm stepping in for John tonight, so don't ask me any really difficult questions because if you do, I'm probably going to have to defer to him when he comes back. Uh, so this is a pretty typical presentation. We're setting the tax rates uh for this evening. And I want to begin by just reviewing the fund balance. So if you remember back in July, the board authorized certain dollar amounts to be allocated to the fund
011balance once the close out had happened. So this is just a summary of the where those funds ended up. Uh and you can see one of the areas that we anticipated not on this slide but in the um capital reserve fund in the bus purchase reserve. We originally thought that we would be allocating some funds into those reserves. Um, however, one of our state aid payments related to the last capital B bond, if you remember, we had to get that all in by December 31st, and I know John said Nick and him worked really diligently to get it done, but we didn't receive the state aid payment for that. So, that won't flow to us until September. So technically that has to then be accounted for in this coming year's budget. So we'll probably have
012a higher revenue for state aid this year than we did. So we may end up putting more in those reserves at the end of next year, but that's why uh originally John had presented with dollars going to each of those, but they're they're not in there now. Um the other thing I wanted to point out is with the undesated fund balance we had discussed um the reserves and the 4% cap. This dollar amount in here 6.997 does reflect higher than a 4% reserve. I just wanted to bring that to the board's attention. Uh we did that. It will be flagged when we have an audit, but it's something that we felt was important to do given some of the uncertainty that um you know we are anticipating. Uh so to just a quick review the
013tax levy, the tax rate and the tax cap. Uh these are the three areas that is determined um as to what makes up an individual homeowner's taxes and only one of them is determined by the school district and that is the tax levy. So this just reflects our tax levy history. Uh this past year uh or for 202526 the maximum allowable levy was 1.12% and we did go to that threshold. You can see for many years we have been well below what the Mattel is or what we were allowed to um raise taxes for. some of the economic indicators just uh to reflect on what the increases have been over the last years. Obviously, home values, adjusted gross in incomes, and tax levies. And as a visual, your home and how this is seen by
014not only you, but your um lender, the assessors, and all of the people that weigh in on what the value of your homes are. We need to update that picture. Um so the final tax rates um are uh 64% for Bethlehem, 65% for the town of New Scotland. And this essentially results in a $6 increase per $100,000 of assessed value for Bethlehem. And it results in a $60 decrease per 100,000 assessed value for the town of New Scotland. And for the public library, um, again, the equalization rates, uh, play a factor in their final rates as well. And for Bethlehem, they will see an increase of $2 per $100,000. And New Scotland would see a $2 decrease for that amount. And just to uh, this is a great visual, I think, to show how the
015equalization rates actually impact the each town. You can see that you have an example of the full market value of a town of a home in each of the towns. The how the equalization rate is applied uh with the assessed value and the tax rates and what the total taxes due are which is in effect what the impact is in the results of the equalization rates. So there are three ways to pay your taxes uh once you get your bill. You can do it by mail if you like. You can also do um pay your taxes in person at Pioneer Bank. Um or you can pay taxes online. And there are fees associated with the online payments. I know that that comes up every year. So, I just want to make sure people are aware
016that there's fees just like with most debit card, credit card transactions. And this is a sample school tax bill. Uh, individuals should be receiving this at the end of August and the rates will be reflected on their bills. So, they should receive it um by early September if they're mailed out in late August. I know there's been some questions about timing on that in the past. And we do have a dedicated phone line for individuals if you have questions about your taxes at uh 518-6943949. Michelle Curtis, who has been in the district for a long time, is continuing to t be the collector here, and she can answer all of their questions um if need be. Um she's also available by email if um you prefer that. And that's my very quick presentation on the
017tax cap tax levy, but does anyone have questions about them? >> Thanks, John. >> Thank you. Appreciate that. >> Thank you. Okay, Nick's presentation will be much more exciting than that. >> So, we have our our second presentation this night uh tonight is on um our future bond project plans. >> Good evening. >> Over to Nick. >> Okay. So, to this uh presentation is an update to the June 18th presentation that I had previously given. Um I'll try to do this quickly. I don't know if I'll get through it as quickly as Jody did. Um so um I'll go through these slides and I'll just show you the updates. Uh we amended this slide to show that the December 2nd is our proposed uh public vote on the for the referendum for this project. Um
018the next slide shows where we ended up here. Um we're right on track with where I was last time. Uh last time was 139 proposed elements. We're at 138. We moved some things around. Um but nothing was nothing major was added or subtracted. Um again all these elements are high priority. They support our our district mission and our goals and it's we performed we as in Turner Construction performed a uh comprehensive review of all of our scope elements and provided us with a really good estimate. And currently our estimate for those 138 uh project scope elements is 57.4 million. We had a target goal of 60 million, so we're in really good shape. This next slide is is um um I I want to say more for the public, it's for everybody, but this kind
019of summarizes what we're doing in each building, how many dollars we're spending, and the percentage associated with the total 57.4 million. And we'll get to u a little more detail in the future here. Um this this slide breaks it down by the building. Um these are all the elementary buildings. I do not want to go through them each separately. Um, this has been published um uh on on several occasions. It was published today on on school >> front square parent square, excuse me, I'm sorry. Um, so this has gone out. Um, this does reflect the scope elements list that I've been providing to the board of education and the administration all along. Um, I'll get into some highlights here momentarily. Next slide is the high school and middle school, our secondary schools. uh transportation and
020operations and maintenance. Uh we have a couple of items at transportation and at on and m that uh we feel need to be completed in this project. So I'll go over a couple of the the the key project elements things that are um not just uh big dollar but have a big impact on Bethlehem school district. Uh the first one is what we've discussed uh a lot is the potential air conditioning to improve the teaching and learning spaces. this slide uh you know don't pay attention to the picture. It was a cool picture of uh the type of systems that we plan on installing uh variable refrigerant heat pumps. But um it breaks it down and shows uh briefly what we're doing at each building. Uh Eagle uh cafeteria and gymnasium, all the buildings, all
021school district buildings, it it will be the common spaces if they don't already have air conditioning. the gymnasiums, cafeterias, library media centers, and then the three buildings that are known hotspots that have second floors, which are the high school, middle school, and Ellir are all proposed to get air conditioning. Um, we did put the numbers of classrooms that are affected, just so that folks could understand. Um, you know, we're going to hit 38 classrooms at the high school, which is a really good good shot at uh getting this building air conditioned. Um again, uh Hammergrow and Glenmont, their gymnasiums are already airond conditioned. Middle schools LMC, high schools, LMC are already airond conditioned. Okay. Another uh featured element is uh and and it's the big theme is our elementary classrooms. Um we have a lot
022of classrooms um at at our uh primary schools at the elementary schools that are in need of renovation or modernization. Uh they're they're 70s vintage built in the 50s but last time they were touched is probably in the 70s or 80s. Um this includes uh Ellir Glenmont Hammergirl and Slingerlands. Eagles are newest. Uh there's no renovations required to uh modernize the classrooms. Um the when I say modernize, we're going to improve the floors, ceilings, lights, the case work, and the finishes. So in a nutshell, it's going to get a paint job and spruced up. We already have the new furniture, and we need to make the space match the new furniture. the the big uh struggle um or challenges are doing these classrooms. There's several in each building. Um you know, Glenmont has the entire
023fifth grade wing that's proposed. Um we have challenges and those challenges are we don't as a district have swing space. I know we talked about this before. Um the the swing space, what I'm referring to is a place to put the students while we're doing the construction. All right. Um there's it's not possible in a two-year project to do this in two months over the summer. Okay. So we we have alternate alternative solutions. Um we we don't know yet. So I can't guarantee it. It depends on the contractor and the workforce at the time. Can we get second shift or double shifts and weekend work out of them to uh make the the project progress rapidly or more rapidly? Um, a more logical would be to temporarily relocate the classes to other areas of the
024building. For example, we've had conversations with the principles. Could we take half a gym, put, you know, three or four classrooms in a half a gymnasium temporarily while we extend either at the beginning of the school year or deeper into the uh end of the school year to complete the construction. All right. So, those are things that we've offered. The other option is to move some of the students to other school buildings that do have space. All right. Um and then obviously we we could do portable classrooms, but they are cost prohibitive and again they're very challenging to get through state education department. So, we are working to determine um as Jod had mentioned, we do have um the zoning that she mentioned for the fall here and that could impact some of our decision-
025making and we're going to take that into consideration. Um our other considerations are impacted transportation. Um again, we would need to make a decision on phasing. Um we're working with our construction manager. Again, right now they're doing our estimating, not really our phasing and planning because we haven't hired them to do that yet. Um, but we we've kind of asked them and and they've agreed. They'll plug it into their program. They have a software program and they can give us a general idea. Is this going to fit into a two-year, a three-year construction project? And can we do certain areas just by extending possibly a month into the beginning or the end of the school year? Um I I prefer cutting in at the end of the school year because the students are already acclimated.
026They know what they're doing. Little bit of change at the end of the year is a little easier to handle than starting the school year or I'm sorry um starting the school year and then stopping and getting you know rerouted and all these things. So, those are some of the considerations. Do we extend into the fall or into the spring? And what is that duration of the impact? And we're working on that as we speak, but uh diligently right now. Uh again, I I mentioned the contractor workforce. Um we're still struggling with that. Um we've talked to Turner Construction looking at projects that are currently going on in other districts. They are struggling to get the folks to work double shifts and extra hours. So, that's going to impact this. And then uh I had
027mentioned the extension of the project schedule. If we have to do more than two summers of course the cost goes up. So we are looking at this in all angles and um we we'll come up with something and have a plan and when I say a plan it won't be a definitive plan because we won't know who the contractors are etc. But um a good idea of uh these answers. Will it be a two-year, a three-year, and what are our options as far as shuffling folks within the building or potentially to the other parts of uh the district? Okay. Is there any questions on that real quickly? Okay, I'll keep moving along. Okay. Um uh other elements, uh our cafeter um is dated. If you look at the wall colors, I would love to know
028who picked those. But uh so we want to upgrade that. Additionally, the floor is due for sanding and refinishing to uh to meet some meet the needs. We've removed some all the things off the wall that don't belong there and some storage closets and maximize the space for the uh students for the cafeteria and the gymnasium. And that would include the stage, refinishing the stage front and the floors, bringing it back to its original uh uh look. Uh, additionally at Hammerrail, the main office, uh, currently there is no, uh, conference room to support, uh, the principal and his staff, and it's very crammed in there, and, uh, we'd like to expand that to include a conference room. Um, at Slingerlands, this was, if you recall, pulled out of the last bond project due to, uh,
029again, it was the phasing and logistics. We couldn't do both at once doing the classrooms. We had no place to move the kitchen to. So, we're looking at upgrading the uh kitchen area with the new appliances, a full renovation in there. And additionally, the the cafeteria, which was a gymnasium that got semiconverted to a cafeteria. The wood floor is underneath, and you can still tell because all the floor tile is cracked because the floor is moving. All right. Um, so we definitely wanted to make that a priority. One highlight here is that uh that would include a new walk-in cooler and freezer in support of our food service program uh due to the I guess it's the free lunch program that started. So we need more freezer space um at the elementarymentaries. Okay. Um high
030school currently in the last bond we didn't incorpor 2016 bomb when we did the auditorium we didn't incorporate storage space for it. Uh these photos show kind of our storage currently, which is not great. We need to enhance our storage for I know I these are real pictures, folks. Um it's it's really in need. So, we're going to create uh existing space and convert it to theater and music dedicated storage space. Um and then we've got our infrastructure items that, you know, aren't aren't great for uh the public to see. They don't see most of this. The roofs. Um, we've got roof replacements, select roof replacements at Eagle, Slingerlands, Middle School, and High School. Um, and of course, uh, they're out of warranty and we do have some leaks that we are, uh, consistently repairing.
031And of course, it improves the envelope and increases energy efficiency. Additionally, uh, we weren't able to fit the high school uh, bus parking lot and the high school faculty parking lot into the last bond. Um, so we plan on doing it in this bond. Uh same with Eagle and Operations and Maintenance. Um so the last three parking lots will have all of our parking lots been uh renovated in the past eight years. Uh again, more infrastructure, fire alarm system replacements at Glenmont, excuse me, Ellir, Glenmont, Hammerrell, Slingerlands, in the middle school. And the reason that these are all included is the high school got their new fire alarm system in the last bond and we want to get the enhanced features, the voice uh communication, the blue lights for those that uh suffer from hearing
032loss, etc. So, um the middle school is in dire need of a fire alarm upgrade as are all the other buildings. We're not doing them just to do them, but we we need to get those enhanced features. Um, and at the high school, uh, we determined that our PA announcing system, public announcing system is 30 years old and is, uh, beyond its useful life, and we're recommending that replacement. >> Also, with the high school, our >> D-wing elevator, um, the one right right over here, um, when we did our fire alarm system, it does not have the electronics on board to accept our new fire alarm in integration. So, we need to um modernize the elevator and if you recall, we did a capital pro capital outlay project at the middle school and have done
033this before. Then that will be up to code. And then uh Ellir and Slingerlands, our last two boiler plants that need to be replaced um to improve our efficiency and uh our reliability and our heating. And then over at transportation, um bay 7 is our uh DOT inspection bay. and Brian and I are currently struggling with our inspectors on keeping that lift uh operational. Um it's got some issues that are causing it to fail on a regular basis and it's due for replacement. Okay. Um so we have a an update or a change to that we're proposing to the board of education uh regarding our Bethlehem High School Dwing bathrooms. Um, and I think that anybody in this room has used the facilities across the hall. This is these are this is the corner that
034you're seeing in this um slide that we're talking about. So, it would be both the student and faculty bathrooms. And this is is there a laser on this guy? >> Um, uh, this is if you look Yeah, I can't do it. But um currently the we've got two faculty bathrooms that are uh dissected by a custodial closet uh where we store our materials and we have our custodial sink and then we have two multi-fixure bathrooms, one boys, one girls. All right. So what what the the team is recommending is we convert from open multifixure bathrooms to multiple singleuse bathrooms. And this is this slide is kind of what that corner could look like. All right. And that would include faculty and student bathrooms going from the the multifixure uh they're known as gang bathrooms, which
035is a really bad terminology, but um to to the single use. Um this is working very well in other districts according to uh you know Turner and our architects. And what it's going to provide for is uh a bigger space for our generatorial because we have a hard time with our supplies and everything. But it enhances our ADA, our access. It gives us bottle filling stations. And then there's, if you look at that, we'll be protected. It's a L-shaped there. We can protect that with cameras. So it really has no effect on our ability to control the bathrooms, but it's adds more comfort to the students. So, I want to jump back and and say, you know, make sure I don't miss anything. But, um, the janitorial space and then the bottle filling stations. We
036could fit in uh art display uh space, which I know that the art department would love since it's adjacent to the art rooms and uh future utility space there down in the righth hand corner. Um, and that's uh when we talk about air conditioning, the first floor, that would be our chase or a route to get down. Um, excuse me. So, what I wanted to do is just see what the board of education felt about this. Um, when we discussed it in our, uh, OACM meetings or or with our administration, we thought it was a good idea. Um, we believed that it would be wellreceived by our faculty and staff and it would actually the co it would not increase our cost. It it would not increase the cost of >> It looks like Does
037it increase capacity? >> It does. It actually >> we actually get more. >> It looks like you get more spaces. >> So, the last in the um the female restroom, we have I I'm having a hard time seeing from way back here, but we have three water closets or toilets. And as you can see with this with this single use, you have 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 proposed. So it increases our fixture count. >> And what we've been realizing is that the students really like these single use. It it just seems more comfortable for them and more private. All right. Um, so knowing that it wouldn't increase, we wanted to bring this in front of the board and say, you know, instead of just renovating the bathrooms, we'd
038like to propose a change. And this would be for both the first and second floor. They're stacked. We can't do the second floor without doing the first floor, but we're asking if if it's okay to proceed in this direction. >> Do you want feedback now or do you want to wait? >> It would be great. It would be great if you wanted to. And then >> I I think it's a I think it's a great idea. one because it increases capacity and um also I mean you're totally right that in my experience the kids prefer these single occupancy bathrooms >> um and for a whole variety of reasons and I also wonder whether it would help with addressing some vaping concerns that we've had um in our bathrooms >> why >> well right now right
039you if somebody if you have an issue in a bathroom we have cameras outside, but you can't tell who's doing what in the bathroom because there could be four people in there at a time. Right. Right. This way you can have like one of the things we've discussed with vaping is there they make vape detectors. >> Yes. I just >> The problem with that is in what some schools who've put them in, it goes off. But if there's five people in the bathroom, you have no idea who who was vaping. Yes. And these, if we wanted to install vape detectors, you put them in single use and you have cameras outside. If it goes off, >> you can tell there >> it can't be anyone else but that person in there. >> It also many
040kids don't like to go in the bathrooms with multiple people because of vaping. And that would eliminate some of those issues that kids have >> because you're not in there with another, >> right? And it also looks like if I'm I mean I'm looking at the pictures it looks like there's maybe more um ADA comp space. >> Yes. And we would you know again this is a concept because of course we don't want to get too deep if you if it wasn't something we are interested in but um we actually have too many we and when I say that not too we we meet the requirement. this uh drawing shows that we exceeded and and we would assess that more deeply and see how do we maximize the number of single-use student regular student fixtures
041and then ADA and the same with faculty. We we made a joke we'll we'll let the faculty choose which bathrooms they want to be theirs. Um so um you know if we want to proceed down this it does not increase the cost that is included. So um we just need >> I don't know if anybody else has Great idea. >> Great idea. I'm on board. >> Um and lastly, I just want we we did discuss the vape monitoring, uh the camera protection and uh door hardware, um with the, you know, vacant and not vacant. >> Oh, >> or occupied. I'm vacant and not vacant. Um vacant and occupied uh sensors on there, you know, not just these regular and you got a knock and hello. So, uh that all will all be taken into consideration.
042All right. Perfect. Thank you. Uh the next one is uh a change. Um again this was a scope element. All right. And and what the the label of the scope element was was to increase practice space for the wrestling program and add a physical education space or a multi-purpose room in the basement uh or what we call the pit at the middle school. And um we we looked into this and of course once we started delving into it, you know, there's more that we can do. All right. So, originally it was we were going to put some pads on the walls. We were going to add some additional lighting, put some more wrestling mats down. Um we were going to do that in the district, but uh we could not do that in our operating
043budget. Then we talked about doing the basics with the bond project. So that's why the line item was included. Um I don't want to pick on the architects, but you know they they see this vision like um and I'll start my spiel here real quickly, but there's 6,000 square ft that's shown in the colored area here. Um and less than half of that is currently outfitted to to carry any program down there. We have one and a half wrestling rooms and it's a very large large space. Um if you look at the center that is a actual photo of the third bay over. So it's a big open space that um we do not currently utilize for program. We do have uh uh after school programs here and there, but those kind of went by
044the wayside. They put some ping pong tables down there. If it's raining out, they may have PE go down there and do um things that they can do in that space. So we want to enhance that space. Um, so this renovation is needed to support our growing girls and boys wrestling programs, our PE programs, um, wellness, strength, and fitness. We have a new relatively new, uh, strength and fitness coordinator. Um, and then we we talked about, but we'd get there if if this is approved that, you know, it could be uh, serve the public as well if we wanted to do that, similar to our pools, but that's down the road. Um again after detailed discussion and assessment um from our original concept we think that we can do a little bit more because we
045had challenges when with our original concept. Um so we are asking for authorization to proceed in that direction. Uh it will in in increase the dollar amount for this line uh item. Um we want to include the hallway that's at the top of that right hand picture. Again, I don't have my laser on, but um that hallway is kind of right now it's ad hoc. There's four or five different doorways that the doors have been removed. It's not a good sight line, and you kind of lose the students when they go down there. So, it's hard to keep track of them. So, uh we we want to improve our sight lines. We want to remove a stairwell that currently serves no purpose and it sticks out into one of the bays that would potentially become
046the PE and fitness room. Um, so that costs more money to infill that so that we can expand that. Um, one thing I do want to I I did use the wrong photo on the right. It shows singleuse bathrooms there and we've opted to not go in that direction. Um, the bathrooms would be are renovated on another line item. If this is not approved, we're still doing those bathrooms, but we're going to keep the um multi-fixure bathrooms and use it like a niatorum where you can have a little changing spot. So, if students come from a different um building and they come through the main entrance, they have a place to go uh change into their uh workout gear or their wrestling gear and um in in a bathroom space cuz we don't have team
047rooms uh separate gender team rooms. Um so that that is um I grabbed the wrong photo when I stuck it on there and just noticed. All right. So, um, uh, the hallway and then we would improve the entrances, uh, for our sight lines, the entrance at the from the hallway in and from the outside in so that we have a little spot there where um, we can have our person checking in or the supervis supervision of the students. And as I said, this would increase the overall cost of that line item. However, we would still be below our $60 million. So I I I an order of magnitude um it it wouldn't be $100,000, it would be several hundred,000. So do we go down that path? And our recommendation is that we do because we
048want to recover that space and it's prime space. Some of the concerns are, well, it's a practice facility, but if you talk with our athletics director, our wrestling program really um I'll use the term exploded and we have a huge interest in it. We also brought on the girls wrestling team and we need additional wrestling practice space. Um we do all of our uh uh meets wrestling meets matches at the high school. And um one of the reasons that this is really important is when we don't have a permanent practice space for the wrestling program, the the students are part of their wrestling practice is to roll the mats out, disinfect them, then do their their workout or whatever they're doing, then clean the mats, roll them back up. So, we're actually losing practice time.
049These are dedicated spaces. the mats are always on the floor and on that if you look closely we have a clean area where they keep their stuff. They just do their their cleaning and they're out of there. So it it actually enhances the program. So what this really does is the two boxes on the left that are already orange are currently have wrestling mats and are all fit up with the exception of the ceiling and the lighting. Um the next two to the right, the uh orange and gray, both of those orange and gray, those are the two spaces that we really need to focus on to create that that PE space. In working with uh the athletic director and the PE supervisor, our current weight room at the middle school is very, very small.
050It's a very long and thin space. So, it's hard to get our cardio machines, our ellipticals, our treadmills, rowing machines, and our our free weights and weight machines like universals in that space. This has been kicked around for at least 5 years now. And um we thought this was an opportunity to act on it. The the PE and athletics folks, they want to make the uh right-hand one, the gray one, that multi-purpose. That's where we want to move the free weights and the weightlifting machines to keeping the cardio in the existing space because it's kind of made for that. It's long and thin. You can have a posing. So, we're looking for some guidance from the board and from our administration. Do we want to go down this path and spend a little more money
051and and get a a better product? >> And you're saying the the increase in cost would be a few hundred,000. It would be several hundred,000. >> Several several like 300 400. >> Um I'm I'm trying to guess. Um we we need to get finite numbers. Um we can do a a guesstimate, but I can actually ask our uh construction manager to incorporate it into an estimate and see what they come up with. >> I think that would be helpful. >> Okay. >> To know a bunch of different things. Do you want them as we go or do you want them at the end? I think um well we're nearing the end like I've got one >> this is the last real slide and I just got a couple of speaking points that I wanted to
052bring forward so I'm ready if you are >> Nick just one question on this before you take other questions. Um is it currently ADA accessible this whole area now? >> Because the what I know when we met you talked about the hallway and the stairs jutting out. I mean, I didn't know if there's an issue with ADA access or no. >> So, there is an issue with ADA access. It is currently not accessible. >> That's what I was wondering. >> It is currently not. >> So, did you have any questions even on this issue in particular? No. >> No. Okay. The one other question I had and this is just because I don't know. Um, is are those spaces if they're outfitted for wrestling? If wrestling is if it's not wrestling season, can they be
053used for other things? Like can you do I don't know >> yoga mats come up? I know >> yoga on a wrestling mat or >> they're they're they're fitted to the space. They could come up but we did discuss that when we had our stakeholder meeting with the AD and the P supervisor. Um you you mentioned one of them yoga um jazz or size I guess >> some also some of the adult continuing education adult continuing ed could use it all the um could also be used for the other the wrestling areas aside from the >> the fitness space could be used for some of the PE activities as well during the school day. Okay. yoga, um some of the other um things that aren't impactful obviously to the stretching, gymnastics, tumbling, things like that.
054>> Okay. >> And and just so you I know for a fact cuz while we were there doing assessments that we had some inclement weather, they played dodgeball in these spaces, you know, things like that to keep the kids active and do their their PE. It may not necessarily be program, but it's to keep the kids going. >> Um but the answer to your question is yes, you can. it it will have a wrestling mat on the floor, but as long as we're not wearing cleats, you can do pretty much whatever you want in there. >> Okay. So, would it be helpful in the maybe the next meeting if we can get the numbers to say here's what it the original numbers were and with this change here's the difference? So, the >> Yeah, I
055think so. I think I mean I think it sounds good but before I say great do it know you know is it >> an additional $100,000 or an additional eight. >> Okay. And we we also had some unknowns that I learned and I got the answers to yesterday. So I don't want to misspeak. U it it is the intent we don't have to buy all new equipment. It was to transfer the equipment. That was an unknown. So I can give these answers to our estimating team and I can get that. >> Great. Um, but my caveat to this is if we don't proceed with what I'll call the enhanced version, you know, the architected version. Um, I I don't want to dismiss that as a scope element because I we do still have that need.
056It may not be the Taj Mahal, which we're not building, but it may not be perfect, but we still need to uh have that additional wrestling space. >> Sure. >> And that is included currently in our line item. So that wouldn't be at additional cost. >> Sure. >> Okay. >> Any other questions on the middle school? >> Why don't we if you want to finish up and then I'm sure they'll be >> Okay. Um and my last two items uh quickly. Um so we we talked about our air conditioning and one it it's a little difficult because there's there's so many things we need to do in our buildings. All right. And one of those was we want to air condition the second floors. If you recall I talked they have 14t high ceilings. So,
057we are carrying bringing the ceilings down to a relatively uh 9 ft level. Relatively, I was going to say normal, but a 9 ft um uh level that SED requires that will keep us from having to treat that other 6 ft of space for no reason. Um and then we started talking about our envelope and our energy um conservation efforts. Um, Ellir is one of our oldest buildings. Um, as well as the middle school original main building, the front where we're talking about this air conditioning. So, we talked about is there anything we can do to make that better? And I'm using the term envelope. That would be your walls, your ceiling, and where your roof attaches to your walls. Um, we had much conversation about this that we are uh I'll be candid, we're
058late in the game to try to roll this out. All right. We we're always considering our efficiencies and everything, but we feel that we'd be remiss if we didn't think about this when we do Ellir in the middle school. If we can do something simple to enhance our envelope at a minimal cost, this would be like putting insulation on the inside of the walls, taking the unit ventilators out and get those holes in the building so that we're not losing heat or gaining heat. All right. So, um, we're we're considering looking at this and if we can fit it in there, saying, "Hey, we're going to be doing this anyway, it'll reduce the size of the air conditioning that we need long term, reduce how much money we spend to air condition space." Um, and
059it I do it every time. Uh, it'll it lost my train of thought. The, uh, so we're considering that for Ellir and the middle school. All right. and I can report out on that because we need a little further along. Okay, we need an assessment. Um, we're not considering that at the high school because if you look, it's all windows and we already know that that would blow our budget like way out of the water. All right. So, and we need to spend a little more time figuring out how do we enhance the envelope at the high school when the majority of the wall is a window and we need to maintain that natural light. So, that all falls into uh I wanted to give you a heads up that next next report we may
060have some ideas that I would like to present to you and uh to the board that says, "Hey, we'd like to spend an extra $80,000 or whatever it could be to fur out the walls at Elmare. It's five classrooms. It makes sense and here's the benefit of it." Um, so we also discussed um and wanted to see if the board would entertain um including a enlisting in an energy consulting firm to perform an energy audit at the district. Okay. Um, and this is hot off the press because we talked about that when we were talking about Ellis and Glenmont. I think that we would be remiss if we didn't do that because we could use it as a guide to move forward in this bond and in future bonds because, you know, in future bonds,
061we plan on doing or we appear to plan on doing more air conditioning of the first floors or other areas. Um, and we want to maximize our uh efficiencies associated with the proposed air conditioning. So, um, I also do not have an exact amount on that. They normally do it per square foot. We're at about a million square feet. I can get numbers on that. If the board um would like me to entertain that, I can solicit um proposals and provide a recommendation at the September meeting that we do a full-blown energy audit of the district um you know, specifically the uh the school buildings. >> Would that be an RFP now? >> Uh it would. >> It would be an RFP. Um, I'm going to find out how much, you know, ballpark that they're
062talking because one of the things that we can do is we do have vendors that are under state contract to do that that we're already we do business with and that may fall under one of the state contract um items that I wouldn't have to do an RFP. I would st c certainly get more than one bid, but talk to these folks and see what we could do. That would be, you know, thermography at the exterior of the building, find out where the holes are. That gives our architects and engineers some ideas of where to go to for the future. Um, if we don't do it this bond, um, I would recommend we do that prior to the next bond because we need to focus on some of that those efficiencies if we're going to
063air condition the entire buildings. >> I'd be interested to know how much it would cost >> and I could certainly do that approximate >> have it a available Um it it and again I can give you numbers. It can go anywhere from $30,000 to $120,000. Depends on what we ask for. When I say thermography, they could also do roof scans. I would say we don't need the roof scans. We already know what roofs are failed and so on, things like that. Um but they get into looking at every electrical panel, looking for hot spots. I think it's important to determine whether our our building automation system um is functioning or optimized. I think it we're due for a recommissioning um which is a service that they would recommend. And what I mean by that is
064yes, we have all these sensors and all these things that are cool that make our stuff turn on and off, but is it optimized? And and that's not routine maintenance. That's where they come in and focus and recommission our existing systems and make recommendations to enhance it for energy savings. Um, you know, right now it's it's really I think I've said it once before, we do all this stuff, but our bills never go down. So, we're we're we're trying to maintain um you know, >> keep our head an approximate cost and maybe you can find out whether we would need to do an RFP or whether >> absolutely >> a little bit more information would be great. >> Absolutely. And again, I this was hot off the press because we really hemmed in and hod
065like we really should try to do that. Um and it it there's no loss associated with it because if we don't do anything with it, we internally can fix the things that they find that we can out of operating as a min. They're going to point it out. Okay. Um right there. Lastly, um this is again just a review of the uh timeline uh you know, a December 2nd uh vote and a projected if if we're approved uh December, correction, a spring 2027 construction date. Are there any questions? >> I'm sure there's some questions. I have a couple, but you and I know you have one. >> Sure. Um, my guess is that many of these you're not going to be able to answer right now, but the the big overarching thing is more detail,
066please. I've seen the scope list, you know, where it says nine classroom reservation renovations, 2.4 million. >> Mhm. >> You just describe it as as a paint job. If I'm not holding you to that quote, but if it's roughly 200,000, which is what it looks like to renovate each classroom, what exactly are we getting for that 200,000? >> Okay. >> What level of breakdown do you have available? >> Again, so I generalize that and and there I'll I'll pick Glenmont and I'll pick Slingerlands. Okay. Slingerlands, the floors are done. The ceiling needs to come down. It needs a paint job and it needs new case work. casework is the countertops with the sinks that are typically in elementary classrooms. Glenmont has an issue that it was built in the 50s and we have to literally
067take it down, take the walls out to the studs and put the walls back because they use some material that is failing and we can't adhere anything over top of it, right? And that's why we pulled it from the last bond project. So I had to generalize it because not every one of them is the same. But if you look at the volume of the classrooms and what each element is and right now we we have a cost per square foot and then we have to add again at uh hammer the classrooms there's abatement that needs to be done. So we have to incorporate that. So, um, it's really not easy to just say, I mean, if you actually had wanted me to do, I could break it down by classroom by classroom by classroom,
068but as a minimum, every classroom will get ceilings, lighting, window treatments, finishes, which would be the walls, the painting of the ceiling or the walls, um, and case work. Case work and each one of them is different. The elementary classrooms at uh Hammergrail are from one wall to the other. Um at Hammergrail, their cubbies where the students store their coats and boots are inside the classroom. However, they were used as the air plenum for the return air going through up to the rooftop unit. That needs to be fixed. That's not okay. Um so each one of them is different. But those are the minimum things. So when I look at the scope list, I see that level of detail. What do you currently have available on your end? Like what could you send me right
069now in terms of how how far it's broken down? So for instance, there's an line item um high school art room D225. >> $400,000 to renovate that room, which is more the cost of my house. Um what do you see on your end in terms of what that $400,000 actually buys us? >> Okay. Again, we have to abate the floor, put a new floor in. all new case work lighting and we have specialized lighting because it's an art room. Um >> I think the question is is that is that memorialized anyway? >> Do you have that spreadsheet detail someplace? >> I do. >> And if so, can you please send it to us? >> Okay. >> Yeah. I I can't tell from this. >> Okay. Yes. >> I'm sorry. Maybe I was missing. All right.
070>> We have when we do have a facilities committee, we have more detail. That's what you're talking about. So, we could put that in the update. >> The updates. Yeah. I don't know if it's current based on some of the changes. So, either this week or next week, we can put it in the updates. Is that reasonable, Nick? >> Yeah. I'm just thinking through how cuz one of my sheet just breaks it down by prime contractor. >> Yeah. >> Or, you know, Eagle, it's X amount of dollars for the general contractor, X for the plumber. I'm I'm making sure I'm not lying to you. But on that scope list that you saw, the colored one that has all the cool colors, >> that's just the scope elements and the cost to the right of that
071on my sheets has everything you need to know about that. >> Okay, good. >> How much each one of them? So, um, break down. >> Good. >> Got it. >> To be honest, there's a lot of stuff that sends alarm bells ringing for me in terms of cost, but I'm not a contractor, right? I don't >> Welcome to America. >> Sure. Yeah. $2 million to renovate one high school computer lab. Are we putting a cray in there? Like this seems a >> not one. No, >> no, there's a bunch of They're They're the tech rooms. So, it's not just >> But it's not two million. >> Yeah, but um another 2 million for renovation of the kitchen. There's a couple. Yes. The high school cafeteria's cafeteria is 2 million. >> Um the computer labs I
072could find for you, but it is 2 million. >> Well, then that's a mistake. >> Um so, you're just looking, you want to see the break, right? I know. Yeah, we can do that. >> Yeah, that says two million. >> Computer lab computer lab renovations, new finishes and window lines. $2 million. >> That's what it says. High school AP3. >> That's not correct. >> So, there's a lot of that kind of stuff. I'd really like to see what what the >> Okay. >> Fire alarms. Are we currently meeting code? >> Yes. But you want to upgrade to a a super code system. >> It's not super code. Uh it's enhancing uh the middle school. We have replaced the um we've spent thousands on corrective actions and we have nuisance alarms and because it's been expanded,
073it was similar to the high school. Um and it's due for replacement because we do have components, motherboards that are no longer available >> that are failing. So it's beyond its use of life. that's due for replacement. Now, the elementary schools, I'll use Glenmmont. The gym teacher suffers from hearing loss. >> Currently, we have >> did currently we had our own ad hoc lighting system in there and we want to be consistent districtwide so we don't have to do these fire drills to accommodate folks that that have needs. So, we want to upgrade all these so that they're good for now and the future. >> Is that kind of stuff in this the scope sheet you're going to send? >> Yes, it is. Every sing every single line item is in that. >> Excellent. >>
074Um it might be easier for me to save questions until after that. I don't know a couple more examples. Sure. I'll throw them out. Um there's a lot of doors being replaced. >> Yeah. >> What causes doors to need to be replaced? just age or >> well um the pool doors at the high school are failed because they are the wrong material when they were installed. It's similar to the ones that we had the C-wing entrance, the gym entrance and so on. The ones at um I'm going to do this off the top of my head. The ones at Ellir, for example, and Slingerlands, the gymnasium doors and the cafeteria doors have wire glazing that are no longer approved by code. So they're not fire rated and you can't lock them. So if we have
075an incident in the school, you cannot lock the gym, cafeteria, and LMC doors at Slingerlands or elsewhere. So it's a security enhancement. >> Also, some don't have the proper coral like the SED some of the interiors. They were they're uh building original doors. At the time it was fine with sed now. There's things like >> things change over time. Sure. Yeah. Funny enough, what's the general rule for things like that? Like is the school grandfathered in for stuff we installed that did meet code then or is it when the code changes we have to update to be legal? >> Well, I got to understand your question. So, when they were installed, Yep. >> the code said, "Sure, do that." So, as we always try to improve, we take these items that no longer meet code.
076>> No, no, I get that. >> That are in disrepair and we enhance those with things that do meet code. I was curious what the law said on that. Like does that door is it allowed to stay here forever as long as you don't do anything to it or does >> it it could Yes, it is grandfathered. >> It depends on the change too, >> right? We have wire glass all over the place and we're trying to get rid of it just like we are asbestous. >> So it's it's very consistent with asbestous. You can have it in your school as long as it's not in disrepair and it functions. >> I think this is going to be more useful once I we have more detail. I'll go look at it and come back. >>
077Okay. Um, I had a couple of questions. One, I just wanted to check. I think it was on the slide, but I um the theater storage changes. Is that going to be like near the auditorium? >> It is. Um, >> not in the basement or like >> I did not actually put a slide up there. I didn't want to >> um let the cat too far out of the bag because some folks may or may not be aware. But um in the F-wing that goes down to our auto shop, if you're familiar, right between the kitchen and the auditorium >> down on the right, there are two bathrooms that are no longer in use and are those were the the photos. Okay, >> so those bathrooms are cramped full with some um science storage and
078theater storage. And there's also an additional space that is currently um being used by some of the the tech teachers um and they have squatters rights right now, but we we're going to be discussing that and we're going to combine those three spaces into one large appropriate storage space for theater and music. >> Okay. >> Um and if you're not aware, we in G 100 uh up at the front of the building, we have this long skinny closet. There's clothing hanging. What can't fit there is in the other closet in G 100. Then what doesn't fit there is an F-wings bathroom. >> Yeah. >> So, we're going to combine. It's not going to be the save all and end all because I still need a space for them to build sets. But this is kind
079of difficult because we're having a hard time managing the uh the assets. Which space is it in? You know, we have these wireless mics and all that. So, we've kind of figured that out and we just need to give them a dedicated space. Okay. Um and then um while you're I know we had asked for some costs and a couple other things. Um the other thing I was curious about is whether there are any additional large spaces at the middle school and the high school um that if what it would cost to um air condition them. So, for example, at the middle school, I think there's a couple of like large orchestra and band rooms near the LMC >> music area. >> That area. Um, and at the high school, there's the big um, what
080is it? The chorus room. G1 G1. >> Those are air conditioned. >> G00. >> G10. No, not G100. G00. F101 and F103 are air conditioned. >> Those ones are. But my but my thought is since one of the reasons we talked about doing some of the larger spaces at especially at the middle school and the high school was so that if we have really hot days we have places where kids can go. um whether what the cost would be to add and there may be more bigger spaces that I'm not thinking of but >> those are the ones that come to mind >> those three like just how much more that would add because would that make it so that we had more spaces for people. >> Okay. So my understanding is I know exactly
081what rooms you're talking about at the middle school. Those would be on the first floor up front. Um we can look into that and um I did have a price from the last bond to do G100. Oh, >> it was 120,000. >> Okay, >> that's >> it. Might be a little higher now, >> right? Well, >> and again, that was the 16 bond and um >> Sure. >> and I actually removed it from this one because we didn't want it. We were trying to focus on the classroom. >> Yeah. I'm just trying to think of and if there's any um Jody, if there's any other like big spaces at those in those two buildings that I'm not thinking of. >> Yep. >> Okay. Is that the one Jason Dash mentioned? >> Yes, >> I that
082one. the um but I was thinking the the the middle school there's that >> there's right near the LMC there's like the big orchestra band room >> there's three rooms there's a third one too they're large spaces that's a really probably a really good idea >> any space will count >> so we can follow up at the >> at the next September >> along with the other um >> updates >> and and again we we are also just I don't want to keep talking but we are also looking for alternates. Um, you know, we're going to have that baseline. Here's our scope and this is our base bid. Um, and we're looking for ideas and things that we would want as a potential alternate because if the bids come in favor favorable, we may be
083able to select those. So, that would be something that would be perfect for that. >> Sure. And then along with that, the other only other thing I was going to mention is, and I'm sure you've already done this, but if there's anything else on the scope list to flag that's not high priority, but and maybe is medium but would be cheaper to do. >> Yeah. >> Now, if we're doing all these other things, right? >> Right. >> Um, and I don't know the answer. It's kind of I know we we've poured over that and really whittleled this down and and put a lot of thought into, >> you know, making sure that I'm not saying that we've got everything, but um we'll we'll review that and we'll take a look. >> And if it's a
084smaller item, again, right now we're at 57.4. That is a a real estimate that we could go and say here we are. No alternates included, nothing like that. I was given the directive of 60 million. So, do we maybe increase the whatever 58.4 million? I don't know. >> So, we'll we'll find out. I'll I'll No, >> no, no. I was just say just I'm just curious whether there's you know. >> Yeah. I mean it so I I I hear you. I will get those. Um uh and we'll look into that. But um I think I can get it relatively quickly because again the system that would go there you you kind of my eye the roof is right above it. There's nothing above it, so it would be really easy to do, but it won't
085be cheap. It's easier than running all this pipe cuz that would be a rooftop unit that goes right above it. It's the duck work that that gets us. So, >> okay. So, >> any others? >> Other questions? >> This isn't a question. It's just a request with regard to the um the proposals you're getting for that the the the electricity consultant, the energy consultant. Um, can you just make sure when when you address that next time you address any efficiencies or advantages to doing it now as opposed to the next bond or something? You know, again, you don't have to answer it now, but just in other words, would there be an advantage to doing that now as opposed to kicking the can down the road? You know, because my understanding from from what you
086said was we could identify things for the next bond that we might want to do. Um, and you know, look, I my bias is to not spend money now that we could spend later if if if we want to, but if there's real reasons that we should spend it now, I'd like to know that as well. >> Well, and that was the thought process. And maybe I didn't um articulate it. Well, we the the project team thinks that it would be a good idea to do it now because it could enhance what we plan on doing in this bond. For example, the Elmir and Middle School second floors. If we do this later and we say, "Oh my gosh, we should have done that last bond. Now we're going to go in and touch these
087rooms again." Does it make sense to have this audit now so that you know we have a benchmark and we know what we need to do not only in this bond but anything down the road? We know that we have whatever failed windows at Slinger. We know this. So we can that'll help us prepare down the road. but it will also identify things that we might be able to fit into this bond while we're touching a room. The reason that we came up with this, lots of discussion about it. We're going into Ellir and we're touching those rooms because they're second floor rooms. They're hazardous. They have to come down to the bones and we're essentially gut renaing that room and installing AC. Do we take advantage of the recommendations of the energy consultant to
088fix the envelope now and maybe derate our air conditioning and make it instead of two tons of air conditioning, it's one ton. >> Fair enough. I I I didn't I didn't pick up on that as >> and I may have not may not have articulated well. I'm sorry. But we're proposing that we think if we can fit it in here, now would be the best time to do that. >> Okay. Thank you. It's a benchmark. >> I just have one question. Have we figured out um the operational costs with all the air conditioning coming up, what that number might look at? I mean, obviously, I'm sure with all the fans and whatnot, those would be less used. But I'm just wondering, you know, like you look at the electric school buses, we've got some big
089line items because of the operational cost for that. Just wondering what the operational cost would be. I guess another piece that would be a consideration is what would be the policy for, you know, do the big spaces get in the summertime? Do they really get air conditioned or not? Or >> so I'm just wondering has has that stuff kind of been laid out yet? >> I Well, I we could try to get an idea, but I think it would be hard to estimate that. But certainly from a policy perspective, one of the challenges we have now um and Nick and I talked about this this spring is that right now we have certain rooms that have air conditioning that's monitored and and is controlled at onm because it's been installed like this room is monitored
090um at O andM. It's not adjustable here. um when we have a lot of rooms that have the window units or the portable units, there's no monitoring and they can be left on overnight and those uh draw a lot of electricity and are very inefficient. So the the benefit of controlled air conditioning that is that we would be able to set thresholds for when it goes on and when it goes off. Is it on in the summer or not? At the same time, putting in that amount of air conditioning is going to be significant costs from an energy perspective. >> Right. And and and John, to answer your question, no, I don't know right now because there's a lot of variables, but I think we could do a um a projection. Again, for me to
091do it, it's not my forte. I mean, I know how to do it, but I don't know how I would just capture >> um because each unit we we don't have a unit selection yet. But okay, so on average, what does it cost? You know, you see the sticker on the fridge perom it cost you $345. I think we there's a a program that we may be able to plug in. I'm not positive, but I think I might be able to project that. It may not be a dollar amount. It might be a percentage that we're >> Yeah, he was nice to have. I mean again like you know during that one finals day you know we blew 20 grand in a day for port. So like obviously we want I'm not saying we shouldn't
092be comfortable. I'm just wondering like what >> is is it going to be a comparable amount or you know what how is how is that going to long-term budget consideration? What is that going to be? >> So our operational costs would go up. Um and I made the joke our bills never go down but um and that that's part of it though. We're going to increase our use. Okay. There's no question. So, what can we do to reduce our existing equipment or become more efficient? And we've already done our lighting, but we could probably do better because new technologies come uh have come out. We can optimize our uh BAS and things like that. So, um let me see if I can find a u a model program that we could get a guesstimate. And
093my guesstimate would it would be a percentage like hey if you do this many square feet expect that it's going to go up. Um Jody and I did talk that um you know a policy of when do we turn it on and when do we not because we we battle ourselves a little bit because we have buildings on the shoulder months that the boilers run in the morning and then in the afternoon it's warm. So now we're air conditioning and we just heated that space and we're rejecting the heat that we just put in there. >> Right. So that's what we're talking about. We need to talk internally and say look um you know SED has a requirement of when and when. There's no policy from SED or the state that says air conditioning must
094be turned on in this day. They do for heat. So we would have to talk internally what makes sense. Okay. And as you know it doesn't make sense. Okay. It's going to be 81 degrees today and our threshold's 80. So let's turn it on today, shut it off tomorrow. It's it's not efficient. >> Right. Right. Yeah. And I think the we did just do the policy. We were required to do a new policy. If you recall, the legislature passed um about the temperature day, heating days or whatever it was called. >> And originally they said a space if it reaches 88 degrees can't be occupied. Bottom line. And then it was amended to say when feasible. In the policy, we did use the state threshold as kind of the baseline for when air conditioning is,
095you know, kind of required. So, there is a little bit of language, but obviously if we have larger scale air conditioning, we would want to really look at that um and maybe make changes to that. But there is at least now a policy that kind of set some guidelines about that. >> Yeah. I'm not saying you have to be comfortable to be, you know, habitable space. I'm just thinking, you know, again, like if you got like that, let's say you that G 100, like >> is that is that going to be air conditioned all summer? Like I mean, like just to look at usage. >> Exactly. >> What's necessary to have those spaces? >> Totally. >> And I appreciate that because our auditorium, we have to air condition that all all summer. If not, the
096wood curls up and >> Right. Right. >> Hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of materials in there goes away. >> Right. >> So that's a good point. >> Okay. Thank you. Any others? >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Uh, next is our recognition of public comment on an agenda item. If we have anyone who would like to address the board on an agenda item, now would be the time to come to the microphone. >> Nope. >> Did you? >> Okay. Um item six, action items. A, finance action items. It is recommended by the superintendent that the board of education approve the following finance action items one through eight. >> So moved second and with thanks to the booklet Foundation. >> Uh yeah. Uh any discussion? All in favor? I. Any opposed? Uh any abstensions? That
097carries. Uh B, professional personnel action items. It is recommended by the superintendent that the board of education approve the following professional personnel action items one through 35. >> So second >> any discussion? Uh all in favor? I. Any opposed? Any extensions? That carries. C. Support personnel action items. It is recommended by the superintendent that the board of education approve the following support staff action items 1 through 34. >> So move second. >> Any discussion? Uh all in favor? >> I. Any opposed? Any abstensions? That carries? D. Other action items? Uh it is recommended by the superintendent that the board of education approve the following action items one and two. >> Some move. Second. >> Uh, any discussion? All in favor? >> I I. >> Any opposed? Any abstensions? That carries. Item seven, recognition of public
098comment on a non-aggenda item. If we have any visitors who would like to address the board on a non-aggenda item, now would be the time to come up with the microphone. Item eight, future meetings and events. Um our um next uh regularly scheduled board meeting is on Wednesday, September 3rd here at the high school, anticipating executive session at 6 and reconvening to open session at 7. Uh Wednesday, September 10th at 6:00. We are having our board of education retreat here at the high school. Um and then our next meeting after that is Wednesday, September 17th. Um, again, anticipating executive session at 6:00 and reconvening to open session at 7:00. Um, seeing no need to go back into executive session, could I have a motion to adjourn the meeting? >> So, second. >> All in favor?
099>> I meeting adjourned.