001The first order business is swearing in just be now you don't have to touch it. Okay. The first order of business will be swearing in our new board members and the superintendent. She's right. Repeat after me. I, Henry Shamula, I, Henry Shamula, do solemnly affirm do solemnly affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of New York and the Constitution of the State of New York and that I will faithfully discharge that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office the duties of the office of trustee of the Board of Education of trustee of the board of education according to the best of my ability. according to the best of my ability. Congratulations. What's up
002the chair. You wake up. I, Luchia Donado, I, Luchia Donado, do solemnly affirm do solemnly affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of New York and the Constitution of the State of New York and that I will faithfully discharge and that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office the duties of the office of exeicio student trustee as exeicio student trustee of the board of education of the Iriccoy board of education. According to the best of my ability. According to the best of my ability. Congratulations. your turn. Not now. My turn. All right. Here, I'll just take that. Okay. I, Douglas R. Scoffield do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the
003United States and the Constitution of the State of New York and I will faithfully discharge the duties of the superintendent of the Irakcoy Central School District according to the best of my abilities. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Nicely done. Now we will have the election of our officers. Are there any nominations for president of the board of education? I would like to president again. Are there any other nominations? discussion. Okay. All in favor of Jim Mlick as president. Don't vote for yourself. Don't vote for us. That's pretty bad. That's why you don't raise your hand. Unanimous. Six. Six. Six. Naz six nays and abstain obstain one abstain yeah last year he doesn't think he has to okay great Good afternoon. I, Jim, Mike, I, Jim Mlick, do solemnly affirm do solemnly affirm that I will
004support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of New York and the Constitution of the State of New York and that I will faithfully discharge and that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office of president the duties of the office of president of the court board of education of the Euro board of education according to the best of my abilities according to the best of my abilities. Congratulations. Thank you. It's like a blank check. Oh, no. We'll fill in what you're really doing later. I kind of have a pretty good idea. All right. Um, you would take over now to get a vice president. Good job. Are there nominations for vice president of the board of education? Bob's
005nominating. Yeah. No, the mic's not on. She couldn't hear you. Got to make it green. There you go. I second. What did he say? Keith, he nominated Keith. Heather seconded the new guy, Keith. The only thing I'm wondering about, and I know that you um were very present in like agenda meetings and stuff, but how's the work? Uh because I know that you had to miss quite a few meetings because of work. Yeah, I missed two. Yeah. Okay. Um and my work schedule has adjusted and fluctuated. Okay. Which actually has allowed me to support other areas outside of board meetings. Okay. With Oh, sorry. Um other areas outside of board meetings. And so Jim and I last year and I think it was um welcomed where you know Jim had tapped me and said, "Hey,
006can you participate here? Can you speak here and support?" And so um outside of the regular board meeting attendance there were opportunities probably three or four that helped step in. And so from a workload perspective on the professional side outside of here but then also the responsibilities here I felt it was managed and represented well. Um the the other part of that too is um maybe I was not here. Jim and I worked very collaboratively in the planning sessions and make sure that you know it's structured appropriately and then the voices are being heard. So it wasn't it wasn't necessarily me just stepping out not participating. It was actually interacting with Jim and Doug throughout the throughout the year. So it was a little bit more than just hey being attendance. So yeah. No agreed
007and that's maybe some things that we don't always see like on the surface. So I just wanted to bring it up. No, I appreciate that. Thank you. And to add to that, if there's ever, you know, for board discussion, you know, I would would Keith would then give me information on the input that he would want to provide. Okay. You know, to the board at the time. Great. Thank you. Do we have any other nominations? Okay. Um all in favor of Keith Vain. Yes. Yes. Okay. So um that is seven A's known A's for Keith as vice president. Okay. Okay. Um before we uh move on to uh start voting the resolutions, we first have to fill out the the board members to the different uh positions we have with Erie County School Board and
008within the school. So we go to three uh 35 3.25 and that would be the school board delegate assembly. Um last year that was Mr. Iikinger. What? It's up to you. Okay. Then it's the alternate to the to that one which was last year it was Keith. I can be the alternate. Okay. Um, now we're to the legislative committee. Last year that was was me and Heather was the alternate. I would probably like to switch roles on that with this one if that's okay. Could I be the um Jim? Just because I've not been on that committee before. Do you mind if I jump on being the alter? Oh, no, that's fine, Heather. You can definitely do it. Two Heathers. Heather J. Primary or no, you're primary. I'm alternate, right? And then we have the
009representative to the Erie County Schoolboard Finance Committee. I'll do that. Okay. And I can do the uh alternate to that one if everyone's okay with that. Okay. Next, we're going to go to the board of education representative to the Irqu school center district audit committee. Um, I can do that this year. I've done it before. Jane did it last year. And now we have the board of education representative to the quo central to the school's wellness committee. It was Heather last year, Becker. Okay. Now we have the U representative to the district wall of fame committee. That was Bob. Okay. Now we have the um representative to the athletic hall of fame. That was Bob again. I'll I'll do that one if you did if you don't want to do two. Oh, okay. Okay. And
010now we have the uh representative to it. That was Todd last year. Okay. And then we had a representative for the safety plan. That was Heather last year. Yeah. I'll do that again. Okay. So, now that we've completed filling out the resolution, which is resolution three, to appoint the following individuals, we're going to go um to a motion to accept those. And I will make the first motion. Looking for the second. All in favor? Any opposed? Okay. So, seven to zero. All in favor, none opposed. Now, we're going to go to four uh official bank deposiitories. It's 4.01. And I have to read them right now. You don't have to read them, right? No, you don't. No, because they're on there. Okay. So to accept um resolution four um I'll make the motion for it.
011Is there a second? Second. Okay. First by Jim, second by Heather. All in favor? Shows all in favor? Okay. And then uh none opposed. Okay. Then next we'll move to resolution five, the official school newspaper, which just so everyone knows will be the Buffalo News and or the Easter advertiser andor the Easter B. Um I will make the motion to accept that. Is there a second? Okay. First by Jim, second by Heather. Any discussion? What bud? Yeah, every year we got to do it. Yeah, this the reorg is is a lot of just going through and reaffirming things that were in place last year because state law says we have to do it and we do andor here um depending on what's happening to be the most cost effective we can. Okay. Um we had
012a second on that right Heather. All in favor? So it shows seven in favor, none opposed. The next is a resolution of of authorization and this is for um deposits and things like that, right Doug? Are we doing bonds? Yeah, this is for like what the treasurer can do having petty cash on hand, purchasing agents. Um I think in here it authorizes Nope, that's in a different one. Um do you guys attend conferences and get reimburseed? That those are the things that are in here. Very general low lowlevel items. I make uh the motion. Is there a second? Second. Second by Keith. Any discussion? All in favor? Seven in favor? None opposed. The next is the building use fees. And this is just basically what we going to rent uh rent the building um in
013a facility to for certain groups. Correct. Yeah. So if someone in someone in an outside organization uh wanted to use it, this is what we would charge them. The exemption is for the students um clubs like Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts that have our students in it. They would not have to pay. I think it went up 3%, John. Is that correct? Yep. And this is for this is for the students in the affiliated groups, the one we're about to vote on. The Well, it's for all of them. So um I'll say Moog Volleyball comes in and runs the Merrila primary. That'll be eight. This is just for right uh for the final resol resolutions co-sponsor organizations. Oh yes, I'm sorry. The wave is the first one. The cost is the second one. Yeah. So this
014this one is uh for the uh the student groups or um connected groups to to wave the fees on them. I'll make the motion for that. Second is by Todd. Any discussion? All in favor? Shows all uh seven yeses, no nos. The next one, eight, is for the charge list for uh groups that are not student or affiliate directly with the district. Um so I will make the motion on that one. Is there second by Todd? Any discussion? All in favor? Seven in favor and none opposed. Okay. And now we'll go to um number nine which is voting devices and annual budget vote and board elections. It's a resolution to use the devices um for the elections and the budget vote. I will make the motion for that. Is there a second? Second by Bob.
015Any discussion? All in favor? It shows um all in favor? None opposed. Motion passes. Okay, number 10 is board policies and regulations. And basically here we're just reaffirming all the policies and regulations that we normally operate under. Um I will make the motion on that. Second, second by Henry. Any discussion? Uh, the thing I want to point out is we're reaffirming them, but very quickly in the next meeting that follows this one, the special meeting, we will have the cell phone or sorry, the um non-in connected device policy and the one coming up right after this. So, one could be changing very quickly. Okay. Um, all in favor? Okay. Seven favor, none oppose. Number 11 is a code of conduct. Um this is just a the code of conduct for um the students, right? And
016it's just we're renewing it. Um just a note that Heather Becker is abstaining on this one. Okay. So I will make the motion. Is there a second? I just have a question about that. Um, so I saw the changes to the um just about the dress code diagram which I think is helpful considering why why that was removed. Yeah. What's why it was changed removed from the um it was changed because the principles find it very hard to enforce. Okay. Due to the body shapes of multiple individuals. So the principles wanted to try something different. Okay. um to be more equitable for body shape. Okay. Okay. Um so we got a little bit out of order there. Okay. I I made the motion. Is there a second? Second by Todd. We just kind of had
017discussion. Um is there all any vote for that please? I apologize. All in favor? Okay. So it shows there are no nos. Uh, six in favor and won't abstain, which is Heather Becker. Next is number 12, the athletic code of conducts. Conduct. Um, I will make the motion for that. Is there a second? I just Well, hold on. We got a second and then we have discussion. Okay. Second is Bob. Discussion. Right. So, for the I noticed the coaches section was expanded on. Yes. Which is good. Um but are we going to still pursue having a coach coach's handbook like we discussed? Uh they would be given this whole thing. So this would be part of it and then um the athletic director does meet with all the coaches to go over everything. Okay. Before
018all the seasons. So every year the coaches have to every every year they would get the same thing over and over again. Okay. Okay. Right. As a volunteer you were expected. Well, we like to tell you things multiple times. Probably a good idea. All in favor? Okay. None opposed. So, that shows uh seven favors, no nos. Motion carries. Number 13 is the professional development plan that we're going to adopt and renew that. I will make the motion for that. Second. Second. Second by Heather Becker. Any discussion? All in favor? Okay. The motion carries. Seven in favor, none oppose. The next is 14 committee appointments. Um and this is super this is the committee appointments to special education, preschool, um subcommittees, surrogate parents, health and safety, transportation, audit, and wellness. And these were all recommended by
019superintendent. I will make the motion to pass this second. Second by Todd. Any discussion? All in favor? Okay. So, we have uh seven yeses and no nos. Next in uh membership uh number 15, the superintendent recommends the board of education affirm its membership in the file and cooperatives which is Erie Eerie 2 um and the school municipal energy cooperative. And the area two is a workers's compensation because we're self-funded. Okay, I will make the motion for that. Is there a second? Second by Todd. Any discussion? All in favor? Okay, the motion carries. Seven in favor, no nos. The next is 16. The the omni group. Uh the the superintendent recommends we approve the omni groupoup and that's for a third party uh provider. is that uh for 403b and 457 for plans which are the
020u retirement plans. Um I will make the motion for that. Is there a second? Second by Heather Becker. Any discussion? All in favor? The motion carries. Seven in favor, none opposed. The the uh next is 17 Orleans Niagara Boseies. Um and this is where we are Doug joining. Yeah. What this is every year for the Niger lean Boseies, Erie 2 Boseies and Eerie 1 Boseies, we just have to affirm we're going to be members of them and therefore allows us to send students to it and use their services because technically Erie 2, which we go to next is our primary one, right? That's our primary one. Yes. So I will make uh the motion for that. Second, second by Todd. Any discussion? All in favor? Um seven? No, nos. The motion carries. The next is
021is for Erie 2 Boseies, uh, which is the our primary. Um, I will make the motion for that. Second, second by Henry. Any discussion? All in favor? Shows seven in favor, none opposed. The motion carries. The next next now is for we did Niagara Orleans, we did two, this is Erie one. Boseies. Same thing. Um, I will make the motion for that. Second. Second by Todd. Any discussion? All in favor? Seven in favor, none opposed. Motion carries. The the next is bid contracts contracts. Uh the superintendent recommends that we federal and state bid. And this is basically when we well when we do the uniforms, if the company has a federal bid, then we can just go ahead and federal contract, we can just go ahead and accept their their prices. Um I'll make the
022motion to accept that. Second by Heather. Um discussion. All in favor. Seven in favor. None oppose. Motion carries. I'll look to my left. I'm sorry. Okay. Uh number 21, government government donated food. Um the superintendent recommends that we the board approve the following resolution. And this one is stating what exactly? Um Doug, um by law again, we have to approve. We're going to accept government donated foods to our food service department. Um they send it to us. It's what they use. That's where um chicken comes at a better price. Cheese comes at a better price and things like that. I find it interesting that they have this program that's set up for schools and you have to approve it every single year. Um I would think you would approve it once and it would just
023be good forever. um because it's the government but every year we do this. Okay, I will uh make the motion. Is there a second? Second by Henry. Any discussion? All in favor? Seven in favor? None opposed? Motion carries. The the next is uh pay rates for the positions listed below which are tutor, lifeguard, athletic trainer, outside of school day detention, and student assistant. Um I will make the motion. Is there a second by Todd? Discussion. All in favor? Seven in favor? None opposed. The motion carries. The next is similar. It's a pay rates for for substitutes on there. Um and bus drivers and grounds workers. Um I will make the uh motion for that. Second. Second by Keith. Discussion. All in favor? Seven in favor. None oppose. Okay. The next is um for substitutes. And
024are these for by the day rates, right, Doug? Correct. These are day rates. Yes. Not by by the hour. Not by the hour. Okay. Um I will make this 24. I will make the motion to accept that. Do I have a second? Second by Bob. Any discussion? All in favor? Seven in favor, none opposed. Motion carries. The next is a mileage rates um for like you know for the bus, a van or a car. I will make a motion. Is there a second? Second by Heather Becker. Any discussion? All in favor? Seven in favor? None opposed. The motion passes. The next is repair reserve fund. Okay. Um, and this is just something that we have to do um for every repair fund every single year to affirm that we're Yeah. What it does, it sets
025us up in order by law the board has to adopt has to adopt this resolution. So therefore, come budget time, John wants to start a new one. It's there and ready for him to do it. Um, we just started one. It's not fully funded at this point. So the odds are we will not be having another one this May. But every year we do this just in case something happens and we decide to make one or the voters are asked to make one because they have to vote on it. Okay, I will make the motion. Is there a second? Second by Bob. Any discussion? All in favor? Seven in favor and opposed. Motion carries. Uh the next is our providers for a lot of this is like a software um for the school. Um I
026will make the motion. Second second by Todd. Discussion. Um this one we put on here. Now this one's not required to have a on here annually. We can just have a sole source and it's good forever. But why do we put it on here? Just to be clear and transparent of who we're using each year so no one forgets and the public knows the companies. Okay. All in favor? Okay. Seven in favor, none opposed. The motion carries. The next is the standard workday. Um, and it's just basically stating that for the district clerk and district treasure, eight hours is a standard standard workday. Um, I'll make the motion. Is there a second? Second by Todd. Sorry, Heather. Discussion. I have no idea. This is a civil service requirement and why they picked these two positions
027and none of the other ones. I have no idea. There you go. There's your honesty. All in favor? Seven in favor? None oppose? The motion carries. Uh next is 29 qualified lead evaluators. Um and uh this one is just how this is for central office to um evaluate building administrators. And the next one is for building administrators to evaluate teachers. Okay. So, this is 2901. 2902. Yeah, we're going to do 2901 right now. Um, I'll make the motion. Can I have a second? Second by Heather. Discussion. All in favor? Seven. Uh, in favor and opposed. Motion carries. The next one is 292 qualified lead evaluators. This is for uh to evaluate the teachers. I will make the motion. Is there a second? Second by uh Heather discussion. All in favor? Okay. Seven in favor and
028opposed. The motion carries. Now we will move right to the special meeting. Thank you everyone for working through that to get the district up and functioning again. I know it's the most thrilling half hour you've ever spent in your life going through it. Um but I appreciate it greatly. Okay, now for the special board meeting. I will call it to order at 8:32. Um and what's going to happen is that Doug is going to give us a hearing on the safety plan. And by hearing that just really means information. Um, some of it changes over the years, not all of it. So, in going through it quickly, um, safety plan, we do have higher Erie one and they're the they're the drivers behind this to make sure everything is compliant with it. And it's based
029on this legislation, which the legislation hasn't really changed at all. and it's really for the district Y plan, which means there's um a little more detailed than a building plan, but again, it doesn't go in there. It just talks about our procedures, our emergencies, um and what we're going to do and how we're going to respond. Um plans are confidential. So therefore, they're not subject to disclosure. That's important because we don't some want someone who's planning this to understand all the in intricacies. So students are taught so much in classes, teachers are taught so much, administrators are so much. Now as you get up to SRO's and administrators, they know more. As you build up through it, there's more and more information that is known by the individuals. Um, and then our SRO's communicate with
030local law enforcement so they know how they're going to interact together. Um, and even the um, fire department. Um, there were some additions in 2122 and 2223 that have been enacted and we're doing that. Um 24, that's where we had to do some amendments um let's see um from drills and that's where this year we had to put out notifications to parents um within a certain time frame and the principles all did that in their Friday messages. We did have one thing where we did in on one building there was one teacher that um wasn't sure if it was a drill or a real thing. So we'd put another procedure in place to take care of that in that one building. Everyone else was good. Um here the just a recap of the drills simulations
031and you know um the bus drivers were aware that includes information um behavioral assessment teams and so on. So we're all ready to take care of all that. It's all been implemented and doing well. Um here's more of it from last year. Um, and that's where the trauma, they worry about trauma for students having it. This is where you can speak up now really and say as a student, yeah, we had lots of trauma. Oh, it's so much better or just be quiet. Just trying to help our new board member along with where they can throw things in. Um, because this is where none of the other board members will have the same information as you. So, you're very privy to that. Um, in 2025, there is amendments. So, this is what we have to
032implement for next year. And I got to be honest with you, they came out, we reviewed it, and they had this plan of what they want to call things. We actually implemented that this past year. We were one year ahead of it. Um, thank you to the school resource officers. They saw what was coming, went, there's a few little tweaks because of the final wording, but if you look over there by the door, you can actually see it um in case of an emergency. And every single room has that. They're all there. They're velcroed. they can rip it down, take it and and go anywhere they want with it. And that's really it for our safety plan of what we have to go over. So questions? Yeah, I just have one. So um nothing changes
033for this plan in regards to the cell phone policy because we would contact the parents and the we would contact the parents today. Yeah. And that's an interesting thing because um and I I was going to talk about this more in recognition of last public comments and then it people you know one thing people say is well I want my child to be able to contact me in case of an emergency. Okay, but what's what's the emergency? And parents should be contacted. But if they're being bullied right away, they should go to a trusted adult in the building. Much faster than a calling a parent, parent driving in for half an hour, parent calling, trying to get an administrator. There should be an immediate reaction. That's why we're working on that. There are other more
034horrific things that could happen in a school district um in case of a shooter coming in. In that case, no one should be calling anyone. everyone should be following our first procedure of hiding and parents like well I want to get there right away and help out. You help you coming here to help out creates a bottleneck and draws law enforcement to create a stronger perimeter so people aren't coming in from the outside. That's not your job. You will not be allowed in. Um and it just holds up traffic. All the cell phone traffic also can take up um air waves, you know, for the cell phone towers are going in. People will be notified. I still, you know, parents all should be notified and what's going on. Um, but again, what's neat and I,
035as an older generation, have trouble with is texting. I get a text, I want to respond right away. I think the younger generation is much more um smarter, I guess that's probably the best word, is smarter, more adapted to seeing if they see a text, knowing, oh, this is one that can wait. You know, my wife sends me something and says, "Hey, can you stop at the grocery store?" Oh, yeah. I can stop at the grocery store. What do you need? I I'm not coming home for three hours. It can wait two hours. Um and and so therefore, you know, sending in messages, don't forget to go to the dentist office at the end of the day when students pick up their phones. They can see, oh yeah, I'm Oh, go to so and so's
036house. Oh yeah, I can see that at the end of the day on their phones. um you know because and if it's an immediate thing that's that's an emergency especially if it's something um unfortunate that's happening at a household really you don't want a student breaking down or crying in the middle of the hallway or a classroom seeing it really by having an adult having the the social emotional support for their child when they receive this information is very important at this age um you know and I I think there's a lot of high school students that can handle getting information but again as working through it. There's good and bad wi with what's happening. Um we really don't have a choice. I'd prefer to be a local choice for we determine um but right
037now we have to follow through the state. Um so for the information getting off a little bit since I started on it for the gentleman I did talk to him about the policy. I did get out information. I think it was very clear of where I stood as a superintendent for the district on it and what we had to follow. Um, and we're going to continue what we've been doing right along. And I think that's other misconception people have is, well, my middle school student had their internet device, their phone in school. Well, not really, because they weren't supposed to have it out. They were supposed to have it put away, put in the lockers, and I think a lot of our students will do just fine because they had to go through the middle
038school with it. Don't let We don't want to see the phone. Have it away, have it put away, and you'll be good. Put it in your locker. um you know just be smart follow the rules and everything will work out. And just uh two points on this one and I I think it's you know people who weren't here when originally this was presented with the lockdowns and the blue light system by officer Plato. Um the one one thing he called out to us is everyone's got to understand to Doug's point if that situation you know got ever going on the last thing he wants to deal with is all a sudden someone coming on campus in a car that he doesn't know because now he has to assume that person this could be a parent
039but that person's a threat. It's what they have to assume. So that's why he said that's you got to understand that it's not that he doesn't care or that you know this case Chad Perry does not want parent involvement. It's that when in that situation we're locked on. If you come here and you're not supposed to be here, they have to assume you're a threat and they have to deal with you accordingly. Um the other thing with the cell phone policy is one thing, but I still believe in the practical application of how we carry it out that's going to change and move on throughout the year as we as things happen. you know, Doug and the administration and the building principles are have to make decisions on certain things in that policy that we're
040not that's not going to happen until we start living it. Do you know what I mean? We're we're just not. So that's everyone has to keep, you know, mind on that as well. I I think the key though also to echo what Jim is saying is it's not it's not about restricting access, right? That's that's a key point, right? And and I think it optically feels like you're restricting access to the students. That's not the case at all. It will look different. It will look not as normal as you felt it was last year or the year before. But those are the pieces that we want to work through as far as what is the access? What does it look like? How do we behave in this new environment? And personally, I feel encouraged that
041you know it will also drive when I'm talking about non-inter connected devices, it should drive more connection with the students themselves, right? And it kind of does fall into the safety, health, risk sort of behavior, right? It kind of is interconnected unfortunately. But I I think optically that what Doug and we're doing is trying to walk through the requirements by the state, making sure that there's still access, there's still connection, but there's not this level of fear and uncertainty and doubt. Right. And I I I asked the question specifically because I think as a parent, right, um and not having cell phones, I think parents are very nervous about if something did happen, right? You know, um how it what the communication would look like. And obviously communication is not going to be your top
042thing that you is heavy on your head communicating to the parents, but some sort of communication either through like what you use for Monday messages or whatever, you know, just to give parents a level of comfort that their kids are okay because they're really not going to be able to connect with them because of the cell phone, right? And and that's where K through 8th grade, there really is not any change. Yeah. which means the ninth graders having been eighth graders should experience the same communication that they had last year. So you're talking 10th through 10 11 12th graders. Um 10th graders are one year out right from uh 8th grade. So hopefully they remember some of it. And uh I I don't know you know it all depends on the family too like how
043much do they communicate? How much do they talk during the day and use that as as a group chat? I don't do you as a student. Do you have anything to add? Not putting you on the spot. You can say no. That's okay. But you need a mic because you don't have one if you are going to talk. I think it is different for every kid because some people probably like communication to their parent isn't like the first thing. It's like oh Snapchat's gone or like stuff like that like Yeah, every single kid has an AirPod, right? And that's where I guess here's the question. I'm assuming, so I don't want to assume with the AirPods, what are they doing with them? Um, listening to music. So, if they're listening to music, they can still
044have non- internet devices to listen to music. You know, I I guess MP3 players during the day, they were not allowed walkman. Now, the yellow Walkmans can come back in and some of them are waterproof, so you can swim with it. Well, she can use all the cassette tape she has. So, you can pass the word, bring in, go online this summer, you know, if you have birthdays, get your MP3 players or whatever non- internet music listening device. And and if nothing else that as some of us can attest to um for parents, it'll be good for you when your kids go to college and they're away. They will only communicate with you, as Bible tell you, when they want to communicate with you, as kids will say. So, it'll kind of help that. Yeah.
045Yeah. My kids communicate every time I call them. Okay. Um, we're going to move on. Um, were there any other questions? All right. Thank you. Okay. Welcome to the Iricquay Central School Board of Education meeting. There there are two recognition of guest periods. One for agenda related items and one for other topics. Please refrain from personally related comments and addresses address those to the appropriate administrator. To speak, fill out the proper form and submit it to the district clerk. Public comment is limited to 15 minutes total with each speaker allowed up to three minutes. This meeting is held in public rather than a public meeting. And while we won't engage in dialogue tonight, this morning we are we are listening. The meeting is live streamed and the recording will be available online. Um moving into
046board discussion. And I just want to start off first by um you know once again you know thanking Norah and recognizing she's still here support and I also want to welcome Dawn uh to our family here. Um I also want to welcome uh Henry our new board member and our Luchia our student board member. And generally to you know especially Luchia and Henry as you kind of get through it it's you know during discussion it's time when if you want to throw things out you know just just you know mention them if there's specific things you want discussed just get a hold of me um you know for the next meeting and we can get it on the agenda. And I definitely think uh for Luchia the the biggest thing is it'll be kind of
047neat to have a perspective of a student as we talk about these things. So, you know, don't be shy, you know, if you have questions, you know, disagreements or say something. Um, especially as you learn as you learn the process because I think that is the biggest, you know, reason for, you know, having the position, you know, because if because we could all be looking at this one way as adults, looking at it from our point of view, we really can't look at it from your point of view because we're not in your shoes. You mean just like, you know, Doug didn't know why you possibly have an earbud in your ear. So yeah, I'm just we'll just play my music over the speakers as they walk through the hall. God forbid. Good idea. Then
048the kids should definitely have ears. She said, "Sure, I'm doing it." I I I would also encourage the board members too to use Luchia also as a reference, right? So it's our responsibility to include her in the dialogue and I want to make sure we're held accountable as we do that because she does bring a perspective that we don't live and I think her input will be important. So, I just would challenge and encourage the board members to make sure that we're including I don't I don't think it should be like a bigger deal. It's just a point to make sure that we are right because we can forget. Okay. The the item we have on the agenda for discussion is the uh board ambassador program. We've talked about it for, you know, a couple
049years um and and kind of gone back and forth on it and changed a little bit and and the board ambassador program was originally created many years ago with a specific portion uh purpose in mind. Um I think it's it it started with the ambassadors, right, Doug? Correct. Um and that's after a budget vote had, you know, been defeated. The way I and I thought about this and I've watched in a bunch of different ways. Um, and this is just, you know, my view on it to ask, you know, my fellow board members uh to consider as far as being an official ambassador to a building um is something that I no longer agree with because my view is that we are trustees for the entire district and every building, the taxpayers, the students, the
050teachers. And if there's a particular building that you would want to see or or towards, I want to see, you know, Wales primary, I would let Doug know that that I want to see it and then we'd contact the administrator and we'd go in. I don't think necessarily one person wants to be limited to one building or last um year when I worked with Doug and Alexa Langire to bring in Scott Beieler to speak to the students, that wasn't really something I was doing as as an ambassador to the high school. it was something I was doing for the benefit you know of the students and to give them that that exposure. Um so as far as and and I think when you get the idea of ambassador the problem is you almost become a
051representative of that building and and that's when I become concerned because we don't you know we don't have to go to a particular administrator and say let us know what's going on in your wish list so then we can advocate it you know really with the superintendent. It's not our role. It's that administrator's job to do that and to, you know, talk to, you know, their appropriate, you know, Doug or John or whoever it has to be for for that and it makes us a representative and that's not really our role. I think we should be feel free to go to any building and talk to them. And I also think that there's if if there's a type of thing that as as truly being an ambassador, if we're interested, we want to do that,
052there may be, you know, one, you know, or two sporting events that as as a board we would try to attend or as a board we'll try to attend the middle school play or or the high school play. If we're looking to be an ambassador of of goodwill and be seen, that would be more beneficial than being an advocate for a building. And that's not to say that anyone Todd could not want to see Elma and then go see the middle school. He's not just stuck like in whatever building he's assigned to. He can simply do that. And I think that would be more beneficial. That's just, you know, my opinion. Now I will turn it to you guys. I think that in general as board members we should be visible across the district as
053many times as we can whether it's your kids events or whether it's not your kids events but I like the ambassador program and whether we decide to rebrand it or whatever um to ensure that each building has some sort of representation um at their events um and that includes their PTO meetings, being aware of what they're doing, but not necessarily getting a wish list from teachers or whomever to get things done. Um, just this past year was Merilla's ambassador. um which entailed PTO meetings, being aware of what was going on in the building, um you know, participating at at events with them um to ensure that they know that they're they're they're represented, you know, um which is much different than like a wish list or being a, you know, a delegate to report back
054to Doug with what needs to be done. Um, so I I guess I just have a concern if we don't have it. How do we ensure that each building is represented appropriately? Because a lot of things happen here on the main campus, right? But probably less at the primary level where we'll have an opportunity to go to events as a board because a lot of things happen like, you know, during the day or whatever. So, how do we ensure that we have all of our buildings covered to make sure that we're visible, I guess. Well, with being visible and involved, I agree with you. Like as far as each building being representative, we wouldn't want to represent the building. I think it becomes a responsibility of each individual board member to be involved. And I
055know there may be concern that, you know, board member X may not want to be as involved as board member Y, but that's not something that we ensure. It's not a mandated role of of a board member. Um, so I think it's, you know, it's I mean just like you you like you you did that stuff and that's stuff you wanted to do which is very beneficial. I just just chose the one like with Scott because that's something that I want to do and I want to get involved in you know just because I'm looking right Henry may want to do something at you know Wales just and then he's free to free to do that and that stuff under board discussion that we would bring we bring back if it was something that was
056you know on the whole board level. So I agree with your with your thing. My question is assigning specific people to a specific building. You how does everyone feel about that? I mean, just I I'm sorry. I I think what Heather is trying to say is if if there isn't some kind of representative representative just in theory, then it might just go away period. So, is there a way for us to get like almost like a calendar of events like they just had clearly wrapped up field day, right? So maybe if we all know when something like that is, we can have a spreadsheet something where I'm like, "All right, I'm going to Elma. I'm going to Row, whatever." Just so we can all know, hey, we are showing up. We are making appearances because
057this happened or this is going what what happened before ambassadors were there. Um, and this and and kind of what Jimaloo has been a a problem with ambassadors for years is depending on your work schedule, people have different availabilities of time. So, we'll pick on Heather. She she was able to get out to a lot of events at Merilla. Um, which was great. But then on reflection, one of the other buildings who the person couldn't get there for their work schedule, no one ever showed up. So now you feel the halves and the have nots. Um, I'm not saying get rid because of that reason. just a reality. The before there was ambassadors, they actually did that. They would come with the major events that were happening at the buildings and tell the board. I
058mean, it could just be disseminated in an email like here's what's coming up in the month. And so therefore, you you could pick um some years they tried it as discussions at the board like um I'll use the musical. The musical is coming up. Is anyone planning on going? Oh, I'm going Saturday. I'm going Friday. Um, other people said, "Oh, I'm going to this sporting event." Um, I got to be honest, we really didn't talk much at all about sporting events. It was always around music, um, the performing arts of concerts that were going to, and then things like, um, field days or performances down at the middle schools or at the elementary schools. Um, so those were the type of things that were talked about, not um, going to everything. So, I I appreciate
059that, Doug. And I think, you know, Henry, your point's well taken. I think there's two perspectives here. One, at least my I'm feeling like there's there's this obligation where you're assigned a building and you have to attend to what Doug was alluding to. The other part too, and I think what Jim is alluding to, is the genuine interest of just being engaged, right? So, I agree and echo the fact that you don't want this to like fade, right? And I and I think Heather, your point is I don't want it to fade, but what I believe is important is make sure there's genuine interest of attendance, right? I'd rather have a board member who can make the events and genuinely interested in it versus a board member that is going because I signed up and
060I have to check a box. And I think that's optically what we're trying to do. And and when we're converting over to a requirement, I think it's not to be less engaged. I think what it allows us is the flexibility. I think it still should be a topic at discussion with board meetings because we should be as board members engaged in community. I myself I go more to athletic events than the music events because my daughter is more engaged in athletics and so we participate and show up there. That doesn't mean I can't go or we can't connect at other um places. But what I think Jim is referencing is I will call it the requirement or hard line of you have to be assigned and I believe the behavior of the board should be
061we just genuinely will gravitate to the buildings that need attention or that we want to be part of and it allows us the flexibility to connect. Um I think it's also an accountability point where we should be accountable for you know going to the transportation garage, going to Merilla, going to the high school, right? And if we're not doing that, we have to I will say that should be a discussion that we should bring up at board meetings. And what I want to say because I know you know you know this is where I appreciate Heather. I think what is going on it's one thing I learned one time with her company. It's called like be here now. We assuming that every single person on the board is here because they want to be here
062and because you have a genuine caring interest for the students and the districts. So if if you're not here for that reason, you really shouldn't be here. So assuming that and I really do, you know, have faith that everyone is here for that reason, um then you're going to we're going to want to get out and get involved. And I think the best thing we can do is to Todd's point is somehow a centralized where every building has their list of events. So maybe you're like, "Oh, that Tuesday at 10 o'clock." I think the one time I went to Wales, they were doing a kind of like a nature thing outside and they were doing a nature walk and and that was something that I got to because I knew it was going on. I
063think that's the way we we we represent and I and it also opens with a discussion to where like do we want to go to that, you know, basketball game where three or four of us go or to that football game or to that musical or to to that thing? And that's where I think it makes a stronger statement if there's three or four board members just like if you know Heather, Bob, and I show up at a at a STEM night and we don't have a student, you know, involved that we're just there for a half hour. That's the type of statement that I I I want to make. When when you make it a requirement and it becomes check the box, I think that the intent is lost. That's what my point is.
064So then I guess I'm done on that topic. It's up to you guys. So then the resolution to that is just to talk on a monthly basis about the events that are going on and how we're going to represent and be present and a unified calendar. Yeah. So we so we know if we've got some type of digital alert because looking around I don't see too many people everybody's kids are more sports oriented so we miss out on the music and the theater type of alert. So if we had it where we could see it. Well, the Monday message pro covers big bigger events. The Monday messages, but that's where um Don and I can get together and come up with an idea. Um and I'm just going from the past history. It used to
065be something where we'd bring up major events here. Hey, this is what's coming up this month at a board meeting. or it might be just an email to the board of you know um your agenda's appointment appointed uh uh up on board docs here are events for the next month um you know something like that trying to make it simple and easy and then we can pull them from the um because my Monday messages does not have um and maybe you mean Friday messages I'm not sure which because they could mean the Friday message too to the board um because you say Monday I think of messages to it, but the building's Monday messages have what's coming up in the next week and so on. Um, so maybe that could be an XRP even in
066the Friday message. So I've labeled about three or four different things here. Don't want to decide today. I'd rather have the private conversation with Dawn and come back and you guys say, "Oh, this is good. We try it." Kind of like the internet policy. We try it. It's working. We keep going forward. It's not working. We modify it. And I think the big thing is like for our August 27th official board meeting just pulling out the district planning committees the maybe there if there's a list of stuff happening that like Keith and I would know you know for the gender meeting stuff that's happening September right so then I under board discussion we can be like just so you know Marilla is doing their big whatever you know does anyone you know want to attend
067and I think that's how you get the conversation going like for the high school this year it'll probably be easier because Luchia will be able to let us know a lot what's going on. But then that covers the high school but it only be for the things she's interested in. Correct. Know those things. But it just gives us that to have under board discussion. It gives us to have take five minutes to have this point wrap that up and see what we would like to if and I don't think we I don't want to do trust me the last thing I'd want is mandatory family fun. But if there is one or two events where like three or four of us get to that's where I think when people see the board as a board
068because I think when you're there I mean as as an individual you're even if you're not a parent you're there kind of as a parent just where what they see or you're there standing off the side. I think there's a a few things where you know three or four of us get to that's kind of where it looks like the board is there. I don't think with one of us there the board's ever there. So on the on the school website everything is listed. Um, is there a way that we can merge bigger events on the school website into our Outlook where we get an invite to an event, click accept, click decline, and then when that That's one thing we've tried over the years. It that has had mixed successes, but we can keep
069plugging away at that because then when that day comes, I mean, I can see that Keith's going to be there, Jim's going to be there, Heather's going to be there, nobody's going to be there. Maybe somebody should show up. That's a good point. Nora and I have talked about that would be she's off to the side but her and I talked about because I also function I've got two or three calendar function with and it becomes a little bit more confusing. There is a way to merge that so we can take that off. So I definitely think we got a blueprint and a plan that we can proceed with. Do we kind of have a general agreement on that? Yes. Any further discussion? Then we will move to the superintendent report. Uh I already talked
070about the um last month's public comments. So recognitions um you know just recognizing all the hard work that the teachers and staff did this year. Um they they always I use Jim's words. They're there for the students. That's why they're here. They're here for the right reasons and it's it's great to see the um um one last thing I'd like to say is to the graduates, congratulations. We had the ceremony. Um everything went well. Unfortunately, it's the last time at that venue, so we're looking for a new venue. I've been people have been telling me different areas. I've been passing them along to high school. It's really a high school event. So, if you want to just cut out the middleman, contact the high school directly and tell them the different locations where we could
071have it. And as the the weather was okay for the event, but I think it highlight very quickly why outside is a bad idea because it was rainy, then it was hot and steamy, then it was rainy. Um, and it can be that way in Buffalo all in the same hour. So, um, and I know some schools who have it outside had to cancel theirs and have it the next morning, which it works. I mean, you can find a way to make it work, but then I think of families, people coming in from out of town. Um, elderly people, um, you know, they or even younger people, I guess, could want air conditioning and escape from the elements where that might not be if if you're having a venue outside or in our gymnasium. Um,
072that's what one school is going to now is their gymnasium. Ours can be very hot and muggy. Um, some people have parties the next day. Yeah. And then it could be in in types of the party and if you have dinner reservations or something, it just or grandma's coming in from her aunt is coming in from Columbus, Ohio. Yep. Flying in, flying out the next day, it it could be difficult. So, um, but congratulations to everyone. Um, okay. Sorry, I just saw a text. I thought it pertained to you because it's from Erie County School Boards, but um it it it isn't. Um Okay. So, that's right. So, congratulations all the graduates and everyone. That's why I see cell phones are distracting, but I thought it was business. That's all I have. So, thank you.
073Uh for recognition of guests and agenda items, do we have any guests? No. Okay. Um, so I'm on to the consent agenda. Uh, the basic purpose of the consent agenda is to act upon routine matters in expeditious manner. Items placed on the consent agenda are determined by the board president and vice president cooperation with the superintendent and are those which are considered common to the operation of the district and normally require no special board discussion or debate. Board members have the ability and responsibility reviewing the consent agenda ahead of time. A board member may request that any item on the consent agenda be removed and inserted in an appropriate place on the regular agenda. The president will present the initial motion followed by a second. Um so for the agenda items 10.01 through 22.13. Is
074there any discussion? I just want to welcome some people. We got Tim Khan Chapter who's joining us at Merilla Primary for second grade. Timothy Howard who will be an earth science teacher in the high school and Melissa de Joseph um she was part-time and is now going to be full-time labor in the middle school. So welcoming them to and I had a question just on 21101 about the cell phone policy. Mhm. Um, so what's has anything changed between the first and second reading or any anything else differently different on No, I don't I read through it uh talked to different individuals about it cuz I know um there's been a there's a concern about the statement um about in lockers. Was that a conflict? We did not think about having them stored in the locker
075was a conflict based on what it said because students can walk with their cell phone through the halls to their lockers before school. They can ride them on the buses. We couldn't find one there. The other concern was shells and maze. And where I saw those, it's may the right word. your student, and we talked about it earlier, may not be allowed to in an emergency to reach out to the parent because of what's going on. If there's a a a individual outside the room that is being aggressive, we may want everyone room to be quiet and no noise. So therefore, you may not be able to call at that point um or may not. So if it says shall be allowed to, that means they can at all times. So I I think that
076wording was appropriate. Um, those were the things that I looked into and reread it. Um, compared it to the law, compared to the wording to the law. Um, and I didn't see anything that could change based on the law or what could result from changing a word here or there. And just to follow up on this once again, I want to say the the the policy is heavily dictated by New York State and and this, you know, myself personally, this board as a group and this administration has dug has been opposed to this action by New York State. we have asked for, you know, to be able to make our own rules um in house and whenever this has come up, we've always when it was still our choice, we always said no that we're
077going to trust, you know, we're largely talking about the high school, we're going to trust the students in the high school and we felt that having them know the appropriate when and when not to use a cell phone was part of a life lesson and that's what we wanted. That being said, this was taken, you know, kind of out of her hands by New York State and the governor actually making it's not even sed. She put in their budget as a law. Um, and just to show you two things within this within her law, by the way, if you know a student decides they want to use their cell phone, we can't punish them, which which is which is in the law as well. Um, but the point with this is that I think we
078all got to understand is that Doug and the administration, especially the high school, when the practice of enforcing it, it's it may change throughout the year. He may come back and say, "We're not doing this anymore. We we are doing this or we're changing this because we we're going have to see how it works." And once again, not to do this is where I think, you know, Luchia, you can be of a huge um to, you know, give us your point of view on things. visually like how we look to you for everything as as it as well as it starts as it gets rolling because I said I talk about the policy is the policy but then the the practice and how it's carried out there is you know give and take in that
079and some we're just going to have to see just like we talked about with the student board member coming on the role how we're going to you know it's going to change it's going to be it's going to be created you know in this case by us and Luchia because we're not we've never done it before so in the cell phone how it's carried out it's going to be the exact same way and and that's important we we People I think in general in education make big mistakes with policies. They make them very confining and rule oriented. Policies are more of a vision. This is what we want to see. We had to put the part the law in there. We want to give to the buildings the ability to have practices and procedures in
080there to implement and get to that vision. And if we start off saying,"Well, we trust every student to do this and it's not working," then we have to make a change. Um, it's supposed to be dist distraction-free. The phone shouldn't be out, should not be you. Internetbased devices should not be out and being used during the time. Um, you know, and I know some people have the watches on, you know, are those internet-based? And some are, some aren't. They all look the same. And some are not internetbased, which is interesting. They're Bluetoothbased because they go off your phone. Other ones are strictly internet based. You could be off wherever, not have a phone anywhere near you and they would work. So the Bluetooth one, if your phone is off, would be acceptable. And this is
081where it's going to get so much into the weeds. That's the role of the building administrator. It's also setting norms and expectations of students. This is what we expect. This is how you need to act. And then holding them to that uniqueness is you right. You can't punish them for cell phone use, but you can for insubordination when we say don't have the cell phone out. So, we're not punishing you for the cell phone. We're punishing you for insubordination. Take that word back, too. And then it's also communicating with parents. This is what's happening with your child. We're very sorry. We we don't disagree with you about wanting to contact your child. Here's the procedure for doing it. And then then moving forward. And so, it's training of the whole community. And it'll take some
082time. It it'll take a month or two. So, one of the one of the things that keeps coming up because I've we've gone through this a little bit as a board is I would encourage an FAQ because an FAQ will s will support frequently asked questions will support the procedures behind the policy. What if, what if, right? and it'll allow a living document to for parents, teachers, and others to engage to say, well, the policy states this, but what's the frequently asked questions? And I think we've gone down this road before with some other things, Doug. Um, but I would encourage that that begins sooner rather than later. Um, the purpose is communication, right? Because if we can communicate to the community um the requirements then the this in between piece of work procedures what
083does it actually look like in the school and how is it being distributed and managed I think can the FAQs will help shape additional work procedures or different additional processes that will go behind it. Um, I want to make sure as a community member that we get ahead of it. And just because we state it here at a board meeting and we say the policyy's there, go read it. To be blunt, it's not enough information for the community. So, I think it's important that we take the appropriate steps to develop and I and and what I want to do, my interest would be is an FAQ that's accessible online, that's continuously updated where you can point to it and say, "Here, did you check this out?" Right? And if something's missing, we just continue to
084update it for per periodically. Um, but overall, personally, I'm encouraged for the change to have a little less um exposure to social media. I'll just say that directly. As a parent, I I think it's an okay thing. Um, as long as we understand what the connectivity is with the students and then the the connectivity from the administration back to the parents, right? Yeah. I think that the, you know, high school, middle school, I was saying things should be a district-wide FAQ. But I think really from the principles because then each building could be a little different. Exactly. Tailor tailored to their clientele. Um, and then their Friday messages to the parents, they can say, "It's been updated. Here's been a change. Here's been a problem we're having, or here's where we're not seeing a problem,
085and we've been able to re reduce restrictions." Correct. But it don't don't we want it to be a consistent not by building. We want it to be super consistent districtwide so people aren't going from the middle school where certain rules apply to the high school where there's different rules like this really should be I would say 90% consistent but there might be some nuances that you would want for younger children. what's going to kick us on the rear end like that's where the that's where I'm going to the buildings and how they manage their buildings and I would want to see what the I don't see what would be different between the middle and high school sitting here but having the conversation with the administrators there might be something for instance a a fizzed teacher
086might want them to bring their phone to class because of the steps and walking whereas the other building has nobody that wants to do it. So the one building might have to have a procedure for how are you going to get your phone to the gymnasium and that's where I would have to see it because you have to take into account the instruction going to go to the high school and expect the same thing when the policy might be different. That's why I'm just kind of policy won't be different. It's how it's implemented. How it's implemented will be different. Like I just feel that it should be consistent and communication upfront and I think I'd send a message. Um there's definitely going to be exceptions. I mean, it could be healthwise that they need to
087have their phone on. Well, that's across the board. That's across the board. And I'm not saying that it wouldn't be consistent. I'm saying I am not going to lock into it being consistent until I've talked to the administrators and see what they have for feedback. Um because they're the ones who run their billings and they might come up with something. Well, we want to do this and we don't want to do it. And I might have to step and say, no, you're both doing it. But I think that I mean there's people that attend board meetings and are aware of what's going on. And I think you mentioned this in a Monday message, but I think a wider communication about what's transpiring September 1st needs to be had. And I know surrounding districts are sending
088out a a wide message to say, you know, this is this is what's going to happen. Start the detox process with uh your high school students over the summer so they're not in shock, right? But, you know, an FAQ to accompany that of dissecting the policy because, you know, the public's not going to read the policy. No, I don't expect anyone, be honest, I don't expect anyone to read the policy. Just kidding. Um, I I don't I really don't expect anyone in the public to read it. I expect them to rely on the principles I put out like in my Monday message. um a big message to everyone but now that should be follow up by the buildings of what they expect middle school area has in place of how they've been communicating elementary believe
089it or not have to do some work on this too because parent by different devices for children down there but the degree in which they communicate for elementary to middle school to high school is going to vary just because of the age of the students I I I think the interest Heather has and I don't disagree is kind of looking at a standard operating procedure, right? I think that's important to land at the future, right? And and I think that we should be focused on that. The other part of it though, in reality, there's a transition period and that's really where we are today. To be to be fair, we're we're implementing based on the law. this is the direction we're going but there's a transition phase which I don't believe we have enough information
090to do to build a standard operating procedure because we don't we don't know the various nuances we don't know the exceptions we don't know some of the pieces that will impact either it you know schooling or teaching or instruction so I I think giving that opportunity letting it all sort of surface with an FAQ but I would expect a standard operating procedure pretty soon after you know the September deadline of of implementing it. What does that look like? And I say soon because it's wide, right? Is it two months? Is it six months? What's that transition period look like? Yeah. I think there's also conversations with teachers, too, because different teachers react differently to different expect to the same expectation. Just human nature. Not one's better than the other. It's just how they interpret it.
091So, there's a norming for that, you know, across the board. Yep. And I just uh wanted to kind of add to that because of the way the you know the policy is and like different teachers may want the student to use the phone for um you know in their class and then that would be allowed. That's why and you know I think the FAQ but when you originally said it's going to have to be an updated document. It's going to have to be because to get a true standard policy procedure we we just can't right now. We have to we have to experience it and we're have to work through it. But some sort of communication before September. Oh no we agree. But that's what otherwise we're going to end up with a hot mess.
092But no, and that's that's going to be coming, you know, I put out mine from the district. The most the rest of it will be coming from principles because they're the ones who communicate the procedures and practices and they know that. Yeah, they should know that. Um, we should reinfor I will I do reinforce things. I I have to I just had to reinforce something just the other day. So, and um but but they should they definitely should know by now what's happening. But that's some of the work we do over the summer. How is it going to start? How is it going to look? Um what are your goals? How you going to communicate this? And like and the biggest thing that I want to stress is what with Keith said, that document should
093be online. It's going to have to be living because it's going to change. And I think part of the big communication from the building principles to the parents should be, you know, please, you know, pay attention because this is going to change as evolves. I think that's the the biggest thing because we want we don't want to put something out there, make it structured, okay, and check the box and then be like, well, that doesn't work really well, but we're kind of stuck. That would not be what I would want to see happen. Yeah. And the middle school has been communicating it for years, the expectations of no phone. But I know in in different rooms with different teachers, um maybe those expectations weren't 100% followed. So even though they've been doing it for a
094long time, I still think they're there might be more trouble in the middle school because of how they how it's been run and they're like, "Well, it's just the same thing and not it's more stringent than students." I think I'm more concerned about Yeah. So Lucia, do you think that students your students uh fellow students know that this is coming and they're Yeah. Um, well, I think in the middle school, like if it was study hall, like everyone had their phone out and I think it is like depending on the teacher, but I feel like a lot of them were just like it's study hall, it's fine. And then that also like carried into other classes where like high school like kids have their phone out all the time and they have like AirPods or
095something like that, right? Yeah. Where like AirPods could be music but it could just be Tik Tok that they have on their leg and like So, do you think that they know that this is oh coming? I think it like has been talked about, but I think a lot of people are like it's not going to work like a lot of the kids. Yeah. They're going to try to get away with it. Yeah. And that's going to be in the beginning taking I hate to say it the lowhanging fruit and addressing those first so people see okay it's it's going to be serious. you know, the the the very blatant abusers and you just keep progressing through it. Other than that, we're going to have a big detention hall come Saturday Sat well Saturday, which
096you can't punish for the phone. It's insubordination. I get it. Oh, and and Doug and I came out just for the should look at that policy. Um, no, but and and what and what you know, Doug and I have talked about this a lot. One of the jobs of students and teenagers, one of their thing is to test boundaries. It's it's one of the things that they do and then it's you know how we react to it and then hopefully between the you know all of us and the students we come to a place you know of agreement and and consensus. So it's it's what I'm saying it's it's something that we're going to have to expect and we're have to work through it. Yeah. Is there a is there a date in mind where
097let's say you open up the front page of the the school website and it's you know something says we're transitioning to a no cell phone policy and blah blah blah. Is there is there something like that in the works? Not on the site. I put out my Monday message. We will be at beginning of next school year. Not even just I'm more concerned about the parents than the students. I think the students can So I did that, but then there'll be and that's where the followup from the messages. Yeah. Be interesting to see soccer they detox after the first minutes they were like old school kids. We'll see. Yeah, it'll be it'll be a transition. Okay. Um, moving on to any any other comments? Moving on to eight. Um, is there any request to withdraw
098any item from the agenda? Is there a request to add any item to the agenda? Okay. And then I am making the a motion to approve the agenda. Agenda items 10.01 to 20.13. Can I have a second? Second by Todd. All in favor? Okay, there's seven in favor and opposed. Um the agenda and the motion carries. Okay. Um 22, recognition of guests for a non-aggenda topic. Is there any guests? No. Okay. Um I do not believe we need an executive session. Okay. I am going to make the motion to adjourn at 9:24. Can I have a second? Um, can I just add something? So, the next time we're meeting is July 22nd, right at 8 a.m. Uh, what I just just before we because that I just wanted I noticed that on the calendar. Just
099wanted to make sure that what I have from our last meeting is that July 22nd um we have a light breakfast 7:30 to 9:30. We're looking at training for about 30 minutes, board goals for five, board evaluation 30 minutes, topics for presentations throughout the year would be about 15 minutes. Uh litigation from John would be 2 minutes and then personal appointments if any for 2 minutes. So 7:30 to 9:30. That's what I have written down from our meeting from last time of what we saw. And at that meeting last time I did let everyone know I would not be at that meeting because I'm going to be in the Outer Banks. Okay. So, I mean, I could probably maybe get in on the computer, but I will be in the Outer Banks. Yep. Okay. Yep.
100All right. Thanks. Sorry. Little umbrella. Deviate. No, that was good. I actually meant to say that and I completely forgot about doing it. So, thank you. I was like, "Oh, yeah. Good job." Yeah. Okay, cool. Um, I will make the motion to adjurnn. Can I have a second? Second by Todd and Heather. Um, all in favor? Okay, that's seven in favor, none opposed. We are adjourned at 9:25. Doug, hit the gavl. Thanks.