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008Heat. [Music] [Applause] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] I'd like to welcome you to the August 13th regular meeting of the Levittown Board of Education. May I have a motion to reconvene the meeting? Jen Msina, do I have a second? Peggy, all in favor? 5 Z. Okay. Uh, let's stand for the pledge of allegiance. [Music] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. This evening, I would like to take a moment to recognize the recent passing of Dr. Alan Grove, who served our district as assistant superintendent in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Dr. Groman was a
009dedicated educational leader who gave generously of his time and expertise, caring deeply for the Levittown school community. I ask that we now pause for a moment of silence in his memory. Thank you. May we please have another moment of silence to remember all those serving our country at home and overseas. Thank you. Uh please note that Phyllis Dalton and Mary and Adrienne are excused from this meeting. Okay, so we're gonna begin with our reports. Superintendent Witch. >> Thank you, President Lang. Um, we have a couple of different uh areas that we're going to talk about tonight. I know that one of them is on transportation. Uh, and so I did notice that in looking at the public be heard that a couple people have signed up for transportation. I don't know if any of them
010are related to the presentation, but I didn't know if the board wanted to um move public to be heard to now to hear the comments. Up to the board. >> I think that's a good idea. Everybody agree? Yes. Okay. So, can I have a motion to move public be heard to the this point in the meeting? Peggy, can I have a second? Jim, uh, Jim, Jimmy, James, all the same. Uh, all in favor? 5. Okay. Okay. We will now move to our public be heard period of the regular meeting. This is the opportunity for members of the community to speak. All questions are directed to the board of education president. Each speaker is limited to three minutes in total, and each speaker is expected to use the microphone and clearly state their name and address.
011So, I'm going to ask Eric uh Gardner to come up, please. Okay. All right. Maddie, >> are we having another public? >> You wouldn't need the board to move it back. Yeah. Okay. >> Do you want to then want to wait? >> Okay. Um, Linda Freeman, Edna Freeman, Mallerie, do you want to come up? >> Now, we're going have to approve the second one. >> Yeah. >> Good evening. Uh, I'm here to speak on behalf of uh my granddaughter, Stella Freriedman. uh both as her grandmother Ash as the former president. >> Can you just also state your name and Oh, sorry. That's okay. And your address as well for the record. >> My name is Linda Freriedman. Um >> I'm speaking today on behalf of um the Freriedman family at 1217 Garden Court in Wanau.
012So, not only am I Stella's grandmother, I am the former president of the board of trustees uh for the for over 20 years at Long Island School for the Gifted uh and uh formerly the school's attorney for many years. Uh we're here to um petition the board to make an exception and provide busing for Stella Freriedman to the Long Island School for the Gifted. she was not able to apply uh for the transportation by the April 1st um deadline because she was not yet accepted as a student at the school. To be accepted as a student at LISG, uh one has to go through um a battery of tests has to be recommended. Uh then must attend the school for a full school day and the parents have to come and uh separately uh tour
013the school. It's a lengthy process and it was complicated because the school was moving its location from its uh uh home for over 30 years in uh uh Dicks Hills and um moved recently to Sioset to the former campus of our lady of mercy. Um I understand that uh the board has um discretion with respect to providing the transportation under different circumstances. Now Stella is a remarkable child. Um she has tested well above the standard mean. She has been um uh unchallenged at school and has expressed a great deal of dissatisfaction when uh the parents inquired about any types of gifted programs or enrichment or special uh education. There is nothing available at the school she would attend. Um, conversely, LISG was created, it must be 40 years now, 40 years ago, uh, to service
014the needs specifically of gifted children. Um, gifted children are as far above the standard deviation, the mean as um, special needs children who fall below and they also require a very different form of education. At LSG, the students are grouped by ability for reading and mathematics. So that if a child is proficient in math, they can move along to the next group where they're more suited. Uh likewise in reading ability. Now Stella reads very well. Of course, Stella will be going into second grade. um we feel that there is not sufficient programs available well there's no program available for her uh in the district and now that she has been accepted to LISG we hope that you will consider the request for transportation if she does not get the transportation will be uh very difficult
015now she falls well within the 15-mi uh cutoff LAG is in Sioset I think it is um approximately 10 miles. I don't have the exact number. If you need it, we can certainly supply it. >> The three minutes are up. So, can you just wrap up your last thought? >> Um, those are the basic points and we hope you will consider it. I just would like to add if you would require any additional information. Uh, I can certainly supply references. I can also supply a statement by the former head of school who is now a professor of gifted education at Hofra. any uh questions you may have, we'll be happy to answer. >> Thank you for your time. >> Thank you very much. >> Okay, we moving back. >> Okay. Okay. So, because we did
016move the public be heard up, we have to ask that those who did sign up, if they want to speak, they will have to speak now. Otherwise, they will have to speak at the next meeting for the public be heard. >> That's fine. >> Okay. So, Maddie, would you like to come up? >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Please state your name and your address. >> Sure, I can do that. My name is Maddie W. Buckies and I live at 1297 short place in Sea for the best best town around hopefully here in Levittown. My my concern is um first of all I'm advocating for people with disabilities though because if I was a chairman or superintendent I would um actually um have um hire somebody with autism to work as a clerical at this at this
017school district and I hope we can do that one time to promote you know more diversity and fairness. I also would like to welcome Dr. Jeff Meyers as he'll be the first AfricanAmerican principal division and the first person of color. So congratulations Jeff. And one more thing um one more thing I would like to add is when we have the orientations coming up for it's important that also that the principles talk about after superintendent hearing that some of their conduct can be refererable to the Nassau County Family Court in Minnola. So we have to be a make sure that the children are aware that at the orientations and that and lastly I will say with 20 days left of school before school let's have a great great year and I know we will get through
018this even though we're adopting the tax levy tonight. I bet you would like to present a budget with a property tax cut, but when 75% of the budget is for mandatory spending and we're trying to spend less in discretionary, there's a lot of unfunded mandates such as retirement benefits, pensions, special education, etc. I'm going to fight hard to have a police science program back. I'm going to go to Nassau Bosey's board meeting and discuss if that's possible, you know, and you know, I hope they would hire me for that, but we will have to wait and see what happens. I would like to thank Dr. Larry for superintendent at the Boseies and also Milton Joseph's the assistant um director of human resour. So with that, everybody, please have a great day. Let's have a great
019school year and God bless you all. Thank you. >> Thank you. Did you would you like to speak now or >> Okay, thank you. >> Okay, >> go ahead. Um, Superintendent Winch, you're up. >> Okay, so we have several things to discuss tonight. Um the first thing I just wanted to mention is that uh I know we've had some folks come and speak to us in regards to um our special ed programs and that the board has been working to um you know put a I guess a a greater emphasis uh administratively on special education. Uh we look to hire an additional administrator, assistant superintendent for special education like many districts had. Uh we did not find the right person that we were looking for yet. Um so we will continue that process next year.
020But in the meantime, uh the board was um has been very interested in bringing on some expertise to look at our special ed programs um and and kind of share their feedback from an outside lens. Uh and so um we are happy on the schedule tonight to be appointing Deborah Kinky who is a um longtime special education administrator from a variety of districts in Nasser County who will be providing us with some consulting work this upcoming fall. Uh so we're very excited to see that and we will be having some public presentations in the fall and in the winter on special education for the board to consider um some enhancements for the upcoming school year. Um, so we're excited by that. Uh, I wanted to give an update on the cell phone policy since that's
021been uh the talk uh recently. As you know, as part of the budget process, New York State uh is requiring all districts to adopt a cell phone ban uh really of any internet connected devices. Um the options really are either that the students can keep them in a locker or in one of those magnetically clo uh ceiling uh cell phone pouches. Uh we met with stakeholders really throughout the spring and then um into the summer and originally we were looking to have them stored in backpacks and then the state specifically said you can't do that. Uh so we adopted a policy at the at the meeting we had a meeting if you remember it very late in July to meet the August 1 deadline and the policy is online uh that requires students to keep
022them in lockers. We did um apply and get the grant which is about $37,000 for Levittown. will be using that money pretty much for locks for lockers because really since co most many students haven't been using lockers at all. Uh and so we need to go back to doing that. Um and so I have received some outreach I want to say about 15 or 20 emails and phone calls from um concerned parents primarily about um students not having access to their phones in case of an emergency. Uh that seems to be the main concern. So, um like I said, we will um finalize the actual procedures the buildings will use uh in regards to the cell phone um policy and about how parents can reach their ch their children during the day. Uh so I
023sent out a an email already or parent square to all the families in the district. The principles of each building will send out uh a a follow-up to that that has the specific rules for their building uh over the next two weeks prior to the start of school. as I've been told, there's only 20 days left of the summer. Uh, so that will be coming very soon. Um, and so, um, that's really where we are with the cell phone policy. I listen, I do think that it's great, um, for students not to use cell phones during instructional time. Um, I I I'm not myself a huge fan of full bands. I think there are other ways to do things. Um, but I think that it is definitely a distraction during during class time. >> Yeah.
024Can you just uh have a clarification for us for build all our buildings do not have lockers? >> so our elementaryaries like what what is the plan? >> Sure. Um so at the secondary level at the middle and high schools the students would keep them in lockers. At the elementary level you are correct they do not have lockers. North side does have fifth grade lockers. Um but the um in the other buildings the students would keep them in their cubbies in in a bag and like their backpack in the cubbies and or something like that because not all buildings have cubbies. uh but it will be a very similar thing. So um our recommendation to parents at the elementary level is that really best for them not to bring them because obviously it's not as
025secure um as a locker but um they will have to store them away. Um facility use fee schedule. So, you may remember that our board of education policy committee uh has a meeting and reviewing all all board policies and a couple of meetings ago, we revised our building use our facility use policy. And the one of the main changes that we pulled out uh any sort of listing of any fees for using facilities uh so that the board could more easily adjust fees if necessary at a regular meeting as opposed to having to change the policy which takes multiple meetings typically. Um, so currently what's what was in the policy was a flat rate pretty much of $50 to use any of our facilities unless it was the lights uh at the turf fields. It's
026that's very a very low number that's dates back probably over a decade, right, Mr. Papis? Would you say that's at least um and so I did provide the board at your seats with some sample fee schedules from other districts in Nassau County. There really isn't much rhyme or reason to what the fees are. They vary greatly between districts. So, let's just take for example the use of an auditorium, right? So, that's probably your biggest space out in the inside the building. Some districts charge $100 to use it. Some charge $2,000 to use it. Um, so there doesn't seem to be much of a rhyme or reason. I had come up with a fee schedule. If you could just show it for a minute there, Mr. Titel. Right. I think it's Yeah. Yeah, that's it there.
027Um this is not on this on a schedule to be adopted tonight. This is just for our discussions and we we should have further discussions at the planning session later in August. But um what I did here was was break it up into two different groups. Right? So the first group would be non-school groups meaning that school groups like our own groups. Obviously we're not going to charge to use facilities, right? So, um, PTA, things like that. But we have lots of non-school community groups, uh, community community- based organizations that are made up of primarily residents, um, that use all sorts of facilities. And so that first group would apply to them if we so choose to. And you'll see I change the turf and field light usage to a $100 flat fee. Um, and
028then use of during normal operating hours, meaning the building is open, the custodians are here, there's no additional cost to the district, would be no fee. Um, but if then the building had to be opened, it would be $75 an hour per custodian because remember, if the building, let's say, no, we've had organizations want to use this building on a Sunday, we would have to pay overtime. And there's a there's a three-hour minimum um for for custodians to come in when they're not supposed to work. And then if district security is needed, then we would add on that. And that considers what overtime would cost. So this those basic fees don't really um they're just covering costs, right? Um on the bottom, that would be new where this would be if the board is going
029to consider allowing other groups to use the the facilities where they don't meet the 85% residency requirement or they're not nonprofit. >> Um and so this would then be rates. And once again, these are not really based on a some type of numeric calculation. Um, the one thing I will tell you I did calculate out is the cost of the hourly depreciation rate of a turf field. Meaning that if a turf field lasts 10 years and it's $2 million to replace and you calculate that out over all the hours across 10 years, it pretty much is about 2250 an hour. um if in regards to the usage of that field to replace it in 10 years. Um other than that, the the other ones are really just trying to come up with some numbers that
030are near what some other districts you'll see in your little packet there I left for you. Um Siosets on the top there because they have a chart that is very similar to mine. Um but then others others have wildly different numbers. But we do need to adopt something for this upcoming year because as you know we do have organizations let's say like the neat theater group that uses this auditorium and they they get charged $50 a night to use it. It's really antiquated and it's not >> it's really something we should adjust. Now that's not until later on but we've had recent outreach by other organizations that would like to use our facilities. It's a good way to to generate some revenue um you know that could offset some costs. So, I guess I turn
031it over to you, Miss Lang, if the board has questions or comments about adopting at some point in a future a fee schedule or >> anybody have some any thoughts, questions? Ch. >> Um, in thinking about some type of um fee schedule, I think it's important to remember that we're thinking about our community at large. So, we're not looking to make a ton of money. We are looking to maintain our buildings and our fields. So I think that the prices that are showing so far to me seem fair and you know going to some of the other districts are charging like seven times as much. Um but I do think that like things are changing and we need to start taking care of our buildings and our grounds and that's going to mean um a
032financial pull on us. So I think this is a good idea to do. Um I am on the policy committee also and this was one of the things that we brought up because of that especially because the turf fields especially the high schools um you know they are relatively new and we want to keep them um safe for all the people who use them. So I for one am a big proponent of doing this. >> Does anybody else like >> I like that people have to uh you know pay for additional usage on the field but I don't want to see people getting crushed uh in our community. I think the price are pretty reasonable. Uh, you know, they're also paying taxes for these fields as well. Um, I also I see it says or
033fewer than 85% residents on the bottom one. As far as I know, there's only two CYO basketball and um summer rec program are the only ones with under 85% Letown school district residents. While it might be Levittown residents, they're Island Trees people. Um, do we know what Island Trees charges? because I think that they're paying a lot more than this and they're that's why their games are always at our fields by other organizations. >> I I will say I don't know the number off the top of my head. I do know they charge >> a lot. >> Yeah. And and like I said, we don't really right now other than like I said for an organization that doesn't meet the 85%. with the exception really of the Lovetown Island Youth Council organizations, you know, they're
034kind of like you said like because they're between these two communities, they're I want to say given kind of an exemption from that. Um, but yes, you are correct. They primarily use our facilities because I don't charges. >> Like I said, I know prices have gone up. I don't I still don't think that's going to cover for the custodial usage. You have to have a custodian near the building anyway in case there's a fire or something like that, electrical problem. Um I know they make more than $25 an hour on overtime. >> Yeah. Like I I I listen they're they're all kind of average averages, right? So like um you could have instances where it needs to be more than that. You could and then the board could say it say we're going to charge
035$100 an hour just to make sure that there's not ever a possibility where we're losing money based upon someone wanting to use the building outside of the hours that it's open. >> So division with tennis court has uh lights now. We're not charging for the usage of that, right? And same thing if we do >> only lights. Correct. >> Okay. Unless it's an organized group using it, >> would that be? >> Right. Right. Like that's the lights are on and it's not an organized group that's using it for with a building permit like a field permit then no there's no charge. >> I think having the lighted uh tennis courts, things like that is a asset to the community that you can actually play tennis on a nice court at nighttime after work and uh
036do it for free. And it's also nice because like when you think about like the track at that that we're putting in at Wisdom, we'll have lights for night for people to walk. People walk at the MacArthur track, at the Division track. People walk at this track. This track needs to be replaced. >> Yeah. >> Um and and so I do think that um that's a tremendous benefit to a community. Um but even like let's just stay with MacArthur, the that field gets used probably more than any than a division turf field. I'm going to assume it's because of its location that it's it's highly visible. That field is in, you know, is I don't even know if the field will make a 10-year usage because of it. It's it's constantly being used. And so
037we're good with groups using facilities, but we do need to make sure that if there are groups that are using facilities that are charging a fee for, let's say, a summer camp, um part of that fee should go to pay for the faster replacement of the turf field because that shouldn't then fall to the residents, >> right? So, you're saying put up another make an account just for that, you know, a line item on the budget for revenue to to put towards that or you could Yeah. >> Are you saying just uh >> we've made say $50,000 on this? So, that's going to go out of the general fund to replace. >> Right. Your question is is it is this more theoretical or is it actually you're creating like some type of trusting agency account
038where the money is going to go into that? We'd have to discuss that with the Fabiano. I don't I don't know whether or not we could do that or not. Could you could you create an account where let's say for instance you were charging fees for the use of turf fields by outside organizations? We were talking about the fact that we are trying to pass along refurbishment costs but you would you be able to put it into a fund that actually collects money over time or is it just have to go into the general fund that then falls to reserves at the end of the year? Uh, I would want to verify it, but I do believe there is a repair reserve that we could set up that we we could deposit money and then
039help offset in the future when that bill came due to replace the turf field. You'd have another way uh of drawing down on that. Uh, >> great question. >> That's that that those are for major repairs. So again, I would want to check with the with the auditors to see if um uh like maintenance or replacement would also fall into that category, but I don't I I I I think there's a there's a possibility and we'll look into that and we'll get an answer for the next meeting. I think it'll be a little more palatable to the uh taxpayer when they see a fund income going towards the actual replacement uh cost >> return field or whatever it might be auditorium or you name it uh going towards that rather than them having to pay
040additional taxes for it. >> Sure. >> And Peggy had a question. >> Yeah. I I'm just curious like no suppose we have uh some a couple of organizations here and I'm I'm looking at the security line. Um >> would you know say we had like seven different organizations here? Like are we going to determine how much security is it going to be security above and beyond what we normally have that they're bringing in instead of our security being like I'm not sure. So our security in the in the primarily in the high schools in this building have set hours. So I believe it's 9 or 10:00 at night. Um it would be if it's let's say that security is not scheduled to be on. So like there are times when we have organizations that let's
041say let's say for instance pride right they they use the gym here frequently. Right now, it's almost always when the building is open. But if um they were going to use it, let's say on a particular Sunday, and they needed security or they requested security, we could provide our own security, but we would charge them that amount. Um typically, like I said, like if you let's say you had a particular day where you have like five different groups using it and we wanted to have security on, then I guess we could talk about whether or not we would pass along that cost because of our concern about wanting to have security. hasn't come up yet as an issue because people aren't really using it beyond those hours yet. Uh but like for instance, Pride was
042going to use it on a Sunday in the summer. The problem is it was one of those 100 degree days and they ended up canceling it like a couple days before. So there was no cost. So um but I don't believe even at that event there was going to be security. They didn't request it. >> My my question is is would we really leave it up to the organization itself to determine whether they need security? like if they're in our buildings like like don't we kind of follow the policy if kids are in our building then we have security in it. >> We don't I mean we don't have that as a policy but if the board wants to do that we could definitely you know discuss whether or not a requirement of using the
043facility when it is not scheduled to be open is that not only do they have to pay for custodial staff to open the building but they also have to pay for security staff. Yeah, that's something we could >> Yeah, I I think that's I would like that put on an agenda to discuss that. Thank you. >> That's a very good point, Peggy, because uh when these schools are open and there's kids playing basketball, people can walk down the halls anywhere they want and there's no security. There's no check-in point. And with law enforcement in my blood, something can happen. Someone could with nefarious uh thoughts can do something >> and put something in a school building that could cause damage >> and it's there when the kids get to school in the morning, past all
044the checkpoints. But just just to help you sleep at night. Um really it is I mean like like even this building security is on um when the organization would simply be if they're going to request to use the building when it's not scheduled to be open >> Sunday. >> Correct. Typically I I'd have to check on the elementary level where if CIO's using an elementary gym that might be a situation because we typically have security on until lap is over and then typically after that there was no security. So it is there are probably instances where let's say CIO is using uh gyms that we are not we don't have security on and they're not bringing security which we could then say we're not going to do that. >> At least the elementary schools there's
045no lockers >> the uh the doors are closed in the classroom. So but high schools are lockers of open locker something could happen you know. >> Okay. So I I guess when we have the next meeting we start talking about this further. I guess what I would just ask is that if you look at the chart and then you have suggestions about the chart um either just send them to Miss Lang or myself and then I'll incorporate them into our next discussion about this and then I'll also put on about the security and sort of other requirements of wanting to use the building when it's not scheduled to be open. >> And then the goal is to adopt this by the next meeting. >> Well, I mean I the next meeting is would be a
046special meeting. So I don't know that we'd put it on for that one but I would say by the September 17th meeting, >> right? because we wanted to put this into effect as soon as possible. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Any other questions on the topic? >> No thoughts. Okay. >> Okay. Um the last thing under my conversation or my my my uh topics for tonight is in regards to transportation. So, uh, as you know, um, we have had several requests, uh, that came to the board of education in regards to, um, topics of of relevance to transportation. One of them is a request about providing late buses at the high school level and another one was a request to consider providing transportation to child care locations. Um, so we do have a presentation for
047you. I did ask Miss Reeves, our transportation supervisor, to join us tonight. Um, so Mr. Fabiano and Mr. Reeves will kind of guide us through the presentation. I'm sure I will jump in and cut them off multiple times, so I will apologize in advance uh for doing that. Uh, please feel free to stop us as we go through to ask questions um about this. So, in regards to tonight, just looking for consensus about whether or not we're moving forward with these or not. So, you ready, Mrs. Reeves? >> All right. Do I really need that? Oh, lovely. >> Yeah, cuz they won't hear you at home. >> Oh, okay. So, we're here to talk about late bus, transportation, and childcare drop off uh requests. So the agenda today we're going to talk about uh some
048background information regarding the bus usage regarding the historical late bus ridership the current late bus ridership for the 2425 school year the associated costs uh for the transportation additional consideration and the child care drop off. So the background late bus service is governed by our board policy number 5720. Uh currently service is offered only to middle school students or to a building that shares the same building with middle school students. Uh writership data is evaluated quarterly uh to maintain service. Board policy requires a minimum wrership uh average of five students per day. high school late bus service uh ended in uh n uh 2020. >> So the relevant sections of the policy of 5720 that we previously discussed was uh late late school buses under a voter approved budget. The superintendent of school or designate
049will grant timely requests for late bus transportation from public and non-public middle schools grades 6 through 8 attended by resident pupils entitled to school district transportation subject to the conditions and requirements here and after set forth. For the purposes of the middle school late bus policy, the minimum of pupils to be transported remains still of the five daily writership average at any time from school to home. The number of pupils transported by each vehicle provided for middle school receiving late bus service is recorded by school district personnel in a manner to uh prescribe by the director of transportation. This record is to be verified at least once in each quarter of the school year and to be reviewed with appropriate school administrator of the school receiving late bus service. If such quarterly review shows a
050daily average of less than five pupils referred into the paragraph B hereof, the school district reserves the right to cancel late bus service to the school which such minimum is not met on 3 days notice to the building principal. So this is a cross comparison from when we did supply late bus service based upon um the last board meeting. Um it was asked if we can provide a cross comparison to the writership that we had prior to the pandemic. Um and this is a synopsis of that for all high school students. So MacArthur from 201617 uh 201718 2018-19 and 201920 did an average of four for the year. No more than four students. The average uh daily writership division less than one. Shamanad maximum was six for the year daily writership. Kellenburgg uh almost I
051want to say five uh for those years. St. Anony's less than three. St. John the Baptist uh about one. Long Island Lutheran approximately one. Our Lady of Mercy one, Holy Trinity less than one, St. Dominic's High School less than one, Sacred Heart zero, and St. Mary zero. So the wrership was fairly low. This is preandemic and um we supply we supply full late buses at that time. Middle school daily ridership for the 2425 school year. Sock had a daily wrership of five. Wisdom had a daily ship wrership of six and Kellenburgg had a daily ship wrership of less than two. >> I'm just going to jump in here for a minute. Uh so just kind of the reminding the board that after when COVID hit obviously bus we weren't providing bus service at all in
052the beginning. Um and then because of the tremendous driver shortage that we still do continue to suffer from. Um we had dropped from what about 65 drivers or 60 drivers to 43 42. >> Yes. >> Um >> and that drop has obviously significantly impacted our ability to provide really above and beyond the regular routing of the day because remember after school our primary focus is on athletic runs to get our students to and from matches and things like that. Um so that absorbs a lot of our drivers doesn't really has not left a lot of other drivers. Um but we know we talked about um trying to restore late buses and we had several meetings about it where we even spoke to the board leaison and asked about >> you know like should is there
053a need like what what what is it from the student lens they had shared with the board that you know if when they were in middle school if it wasn't for late buses they wouldn't have been able to participate in anything after school but yet when they now were at the high school it wasn't it didn't really impact them and um we then made a decision to at least try it out at the middle school level. And if you just go back to the slide ahead, right, um you'll notice that it has been relatively successful because this was the first full year of doing it. We let the Latin school, which is a middle school because remember we have to provide in-like services to public and private. So if we offer middle school late buses,
054we have to offer them to any other um private middle school that services those grade levels in the same way. Um, so it could be the same policy in regards to the five students. Um, and so we did let it run for the full year because it was the first time it was coming back. We wanted to, you know, not have folks feel that, well, no one knew. So that's why the numbers were low. Um, but now Sulk and Wisdom both had um, I think we had an early and a late and not not this is this is like the highest numbers because some of the some of them were lower than this. realize also that it varies greatly by season, right? So, um most students it seems that we've seen writership is primarily in
055the spring, right? Winter and spring, fall is not great writership. Um and so at some points the wrership was one, sometimes it was eight. Um and so that is not constant over the whole year. But go ahead. Sorry. >> Right. No. So yeah, so it does vary because not all um school high schools have the same uh athletic programs. Some athlet some um don't have football which is during the fall season but they have lacrosse you know so the athletic teams are going to differ from season from the different private and parochial schools but our policy does not specify season it just specifies based upon quarterly. So, the estimated cost for restoring high school late buses, uh, projected high school routes, is about seven additional late bus routes, which can estimate anywhere between 162,000 to
056$622,000 uh, for the year. Uh, we want to note that in 2526 only high school students with at least five enrolled Levittown students can be considered for late bus service. So, that too, it will differ from year to year how how many late buses we provide. based upon the enrollment. Um so St. Mary's could be added in and then the next following year can be disqualified because of the enrollment um of the students at the uh location >> in that particular year. >> So the calculations this is a breakdown of the calculations from the previous slide. So the cost uh for Shamanad uh per student is 366 with the number of 22 enrolled students would which would be a monthly cost of $8,52 with an annual cost of $8,520. Holy Trinity 610 per student with
05710 students enrolled. Monthly cost $6100 $6,100. annual cost $61,000. Kellenburgg cost per student is $610 with 49 students enrolled, which is a monthly cost of approximately 30 $30,000. Annual cost almost $300,000. St. Anony's uh which is 29 students enrolled, the cost of a vehicle would be $33,100. Uh for a large bus it would be $116,000. St. Dominic's $610 per student. Number of students enrolled at St. Dominic's High School is six which would be a monthly cost of $3660. Annual cost $36,600. MacArthur division would be an annual cost of $9720. >> I think we have some probably some questions on this chart. So why don't we just pause for a minute? >> Um I have a question. So does this this is if every student used the bus. >> Yes. >> This is what it would
058cost. This isn't necessarily like because we provide the bus at the end of the day >> that is >> when their school ends. So this is >> worst case scenario >> if every child that went to Shamanad all 22 students took either the late bus and the regular schedule bus or is this just if they all took the late bus? >> It's if they all took the late bus. We have to anticipate that the number of students that are enrolled, they have the same capability of utilizing a late bus at any particular day. We do that for the same with public school students that you know whether their programs are only Mondays and Thursdays or you know their program is Monday through Friday. We have to anticipate that we have to have a seat for
059every student on the bus if in fact if they so used it. Mike, >> These buses here are contracted buses or all buses. >> Those that is the contracted cost. >> Okay. And do we still have the 25%? You can book up to 125% of the seats even only uh if the bus seats 100, you can actually book 125. I know the bus don't seat 100, but >> right, we go we still do the manufactured of 66 students uh per vehicle for the large buses, which is three to a seat. That's what the manufacturer seating is for the vehicles, for the large vehicles. >> Um, but we we schedule it accordingly. We anticipate once again that not every student is going to ride. So, we anticipate based upon writership like for instance with Shamanide, we
060would guesstimate that I would say maybe we would do maybe 15 kids are going to ride the bus, >> not necessarily 22. So when that does happen, we can actually book 20 kids on the bus or can we combine two schools if they're near each other or even if it took an extra 15 20 minutes, can we combine uh you know two of the schools on one bus? >> It really depends upon Yes, it depends upon the location um and the length of ride. You know, we yes, the goal is always to try to provide services to the community, but when it becomes long lengths of ride for students on the buses, we have to consider that as well. That if the late bus and the times of dismissal for the late bus, if the
061late buses are both dismissing at relatively close times, we wouldn't be able to do that. Um, but if let's say one, let's say, uh, >> who's close together? Uh, Holy Trinity and Kellenberg, right? Kellenburgg is in Unionale. Holy Trinity is in Hicksville. Kellenburgg gets out at 5:35. Holy Trinity I I think uh gets out at 5:10, right? So we pick up at 5:10 at Holy Trinity in Hicksville. Then we drive to Unionell to pick up at 5:30 and then we take those students home sporadically throughout the geog geographical area of Levanttown Public Schools. Those children can be on the bus for about two or more hours. >> Wow. >> I I know it's a long time. I mean, some kids going to be off for an hour. Some kids going to be off for almost
062two hours. But if they have no ability for trans to get transportation back and forth and they want to play a sport, sometimes you have to, you know, suck it up. There's no other thing to do, but it's better than not being able to play at all. >> Right. >> Um, also, can has there ever been anything I know we used to do shared services, uh, the county used to recommend doing for some kind of tax breaks this district's got. Um, I'm going to just throw something out like East Meadow is playing and uh they're playing at Division and Division kids have to go home at East Meadow. Can we do a a shared services with them or another bus? Uh, another >> You can't do shared services for athletic events. Is that what you're
063saying? Like share the buses, but you can't do it for ath athletic events. You could do it for late buses, but not athletic event. >> Well, I say I said how about lay buses? things like that. Cuz the late bus would kind of be right. A late bus, if you're getting out of a game at volleyball game at 5:00, would that be an athletic bus or a late bus? If it's pertaining to a sport being transported back to the school of attendance, then it's considered as an athletic event. If it's a late bus from the school of attendance home, then it's considered as a late bus. >> Let me just I just want to make sure I I clarify some things here. Um, in regards to shared services, most of these instances would be a
064a version of shared service because we'd be sharing a bus with with other districts because it's a contracted route. >> Correct. Like if if let's say we transport, we're going to we end up having five students that come home. It is likely that there are other students will be on that bus from other school districts. >> Correct. Or >> the cost per pupil. Yes. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> So that's why it's a cost per pupil. So that that it's not that we only we have our whole bus and it's $600 and five kids go, so it's $3,000. There will be other kids on that bus. Um the the the issue is is that like M. Reeves is saying in the very beginning you have to at least provide a seat for the kids that
065are enrolled because at that point you have no idea who's dating the light bus. So you have to start off the year saying, "Okay, we know that we have 22 students going to the school. So, in the very beginning, we're going to sign up for 22 spots because you can't tell anybody that they can't ride the bus, >> right? >> But then after you get ridership details, then you can lower that number with the with the contracted vendor and pay less. So, like in any of these examples, let's say for instance, you start off with with paying for 22 students, you then get ridership numbers uh by the end of the quarter and you only six kids are taking the bus, then you start paying six times that amount for the rest of the year.
066So, you aren't paying that full amount for the whole year. Um, unless all 22 decide to buy to write it, then yes, then you would. >> But when you pay when you're paying per pupil, you don't have the ability to route your children. So, the contractor is going to route the children based upon we telling them that we have 10 students going to Kellenburgg. They'll say, "Okay, fine. Well, I have five students from Unionale and I have four students from East Meadow and I have six students from Island Trees and I have seven students from Wan and I'm going to put them all on the bus. We don't get the ability to route or to specify what districts we're going to share services with because we're only paying for a seat on the bus. >>
067Okay? So that can be an issue as well with the writership of the buses. So it is relative shared services but there is no control of the districts regarding the shared services. >> So a lot of these problems have taken place in uh postco because of the reduction in amount of drivers that we have. Correct. >> Yes. Right. But we and like and just as another point of com the division and macarthur route those annual costs are if we provide that right those are our drivers. So those two are our drivers. The rest are all contracted. But yeah, the the part of the problem is that as you know um we have hovered around this 42 43 drivers since um >> the pandemic. >> Yeah. Right. I mean like it was a little bit less.
068We we've gotten it up to that point. The problem is that we are hiring we just had a job fair last week, was it? >> Yes. >> We had over over a hundred people come out for the job fair. I think we hired a bus driver. >> One bus driver, right? Um, but that's pretty much replacing retirements, right? So, like we'll have several drivers that are retired, what not? >> Not even enough. >> Yeah. And so, like it it if we could get back to the 60some drivers we had, then we'd be able to do more of these routes ourselves. The problem is the drivers aren't available because they're doing athletic runs and we don't have really surplus drivers. So, that it does handcuff us a little bit in regards to what we could do
069because then if it's our driver on our bus, we do the routes ourselves. We decide where they're going. Um, and it's much cheaper, as you can see, for us to do it ourselves. Yeah. >> So, we continue to do that. Hopefully, as time goes on, we, you know, are able to continue to increase the pool of drivers and then we rely less on We don't like relying on nothing against contractors, just we don't like relying on them because it it does handcuff us. >> Yeah. I don't think I understood what you said before, Todd. If if I heard it correctly, if I'm looking at Shamanad where it says 22 students, that's the total number of students that possibly could be riding the late bus. >> Correct. because that's the total number of people, >> right?
070So, we would pay 366 a person and I see the total. But you said if it drops down to six people, they're only going to pay 6 * 366. >> Correct. >> Yeah. But that can fluctuate from go from six to 14 to 12. That is correct. >> So, how is that calculated? That's calculated daily then. >> It's calculated on a monthly basis. So, whatever you submit to a contractor, they will charge you for that month. If there is a decrease or increase in writership, you can always adjust it for the next following month, but the billing is on a monthly basis. >> Oh, okay. I got it. >> Jen, >> I know. Oh, I'm sorry. I just have one more thought. I know it wouldn't be a shared service because it would be Oh,
071it's not our bus, >> right? Uh because I was thinking like way back in the heyday when we had I took the school bus to a private school. >> Um we all had to meet at Summit Lane. That was the transfer point. I if you remember all of that and then like we would even pick up on the way home. You would stop. You have St. Dominic pickup. You'd have Holy Trinity pickup and everybody would get dropped off at the transport point. >> Yes. you know, like is there any way like even at look would would uh if these are contracted buses, would they be willing to do that? Like like a Shamanad and a Trinity pickup or a Shamanad and a Kellenburgg or a Trinity and a so the kids might have to wait
072a little longer, but they'll still get home. >> You know what I'm saying? Well, we they could do that if if we ask them to provide us with a vehicle and a driver and we route it, they will do what we request them to do. When you do it per pupil, you don't have that capability of saying, "Can you double it up with another school?" Once again, you're paying for a seat on the bus. So, you're not able to to request certain things to occur. You're just saying, "Please pick up my students from this school and take them to these bus stops going home." Now, they can take them to uh neighboring bus stops. They can take them to transfer points. They could take them wherever the school district instructs or requests them to. It's
073not about the drop off. It's really about the the the picking up and bringing them back, >> right? But instead of going district to district, you know, including Wour and East Meadow and this with the shared service, right? My question is if it's all Levittown students, would they then do the service with like well just Levittown kids but doing sh uh Shamanad and Trinity? >> You're saying all Levittown kids on one bus >> or it couldn't be one bus because they'd be driving forever. Do St. Anony's is a different story. It's not near anything. So like that would have to be its own route. Do you know what I'm saying? But if you look at Kellenburgg and Trinity and Shamanad, is there a proximity from those three high schools? Yeah, there is. >> Well, right
074now, St. Anony's is the only school that we have a per vehicle pricing contract for. The other private and parochial schools that are listed there, we only have per pupil cost. We don't have a per vehicle cost. Now, we do have contracts that are per vehicle. They're not associated specifically with late bus, but those are a larger larger cost. >> This is cheaper. >> That is correct. >> Yes, those are minimum of six-hour vehicles, which is a more higher cost, but the contracts that we currently have specifically for late buses are depicted in this diagram here. >> Mr. Reeves the 9720 for us doing our buses doing the job. That's salary benefits gasoline everything and that how that works. >> That's salary uh depreciation value of of the vehicle and and gas. >> Okay. And
075the other thing if so if we had 22 students from each of them it would still cost us $9,720 for division of MacArthur. Correct. >> Right. Because it's for the whole vehicle. Yes. It's not on a per pupil basis. >> And that's rather than 80,000, 61,000, 298,000, >> right? All of those costs are per pupil. >> Okay. So, we've got to find a way. We we obviously we know the problem. We're not paying enough for bus drivers. >> That's my opinion. And everyone in this board here spends money, district money, like it's our own money. You know, I have dollar bills. George Washington has black hair and is real as he still, you know. The point is that's what we all do here. We don't like wasting taxpayer money. This seems like we're wasting money
076here big time. And if How many I actually did the math here? 49 almost $500,000 extra annual cost for those buses. Um we can get a lot of bus drivers for that price. >> Mhm. >> You know. >> Mhm. >> It's a no-brainer. You know, we've got to get this thing done. We've got to get more drivers and >> premic we were doing those. >> Yeah, I know that >> we were not only just late buses but we were transporting them to private school and from private school. So we were we were doing it all but you know we had almost 70 drivers and I agreed that you know the li the livelihood now is not the same as it used to be. Uh cost of eggs and all of the things are are going
077up and things of that nature. where we used to have like retired police officers and retired firefighters where it wasn't a livelihood for them is not anymore. These people need to be able to sustain a life of shelter and uh for their children and their families and things of that nature. So, they are looking for more when they're coming to apply for a job as opposed to already being retired from a career. >> Well, I think uh as a board and as a district, we should really look into We've got to get more drivers. This is ridiculous. Paying that the same services, the same transportation and and the costs are astronomically higher. 10 11 times higher at one point even ridiculous to $298,000. Are you kidding me? For a bus? >> We're we're definitely exhausting
078all efforts. We're advertising. We're interviewing. We're doing job fairs. Uh it's all word of mouth. You know, some say, "Oh, well, I saw one of your bus drivers at an athletic and they gave me your number to call." And things of that nature. So, we're doing our due diligence to try to, you know, get drivers in. It's just like the retainage as far as getting drivers in and who's retiring. It just doesn't equal the balance. You hire three, two, retire, you know, you hire four, one retires. So, it's just it's just a constant just seesaw. >> Yeah. It used to be we could pay equivalent salaries to them because we had health care and the private companies didn't have it. They have health care now. So there is no advantage here. It's about the dollar
079bill. >> Well, I it's I don't 100% agree with that. They're offering it, but what you'll find is they'll say we offer $28 an hour, but if you get benefits, then it drops down to 26 or 25. And some people are opting out of health benefits just to get that $28, $29 an hour >> if they're retired, especially, >> right? If they're retired or they have a spouse that already has health benefits where they don't need it as a school bus driver, so they're willing to take the $29 an hour as opposed to the lesser of the two. And we offer pension. A lot of the bus a lot of the contractors are not offering pension. >> I know Jen um has a question. Do you want to jump? Yeah, I'm just trying to wrap
080my head around the how much the bus companies are making. I'm sorry. Just give me one second. Um, so what you're I'm just want to understand this from the perspective of the bus companies. So at the beginning of the year, let's say for the month of September, we pay for 22 children to go on Shaman's late bus. Yes. Or Okay. >> Um, but if 22 kids don't take it, they're still making the money on 22 kids even though 22 kids didn't take it. >> Oh, in the beginning. in the no I yeah you know I get that in the beginning but like you're talking about maybe like let's say 18 days of school they've made significant money on not actually providing a service okay that's I just want to clarify >> and by on a
081monthly basis we can decrease that amount and then on a quarterly basis would be the decision of whether the daily writership makes the board policy or not >> so it's always ways to adjust the transportation in the midst of the quarterly review. >> And that's why on the previous slide, you don't have to move to it. It has such a large range where it's like hundred and something, thousands to $600,000 is because it's kind of like the hundred something thousand if is if we were able to do all the rats ourselves, which we can't, but it's it's possible. And then the 600,000 is is if every single student took the bus late bus all year long. That's once again also not actually probably going to happen, but is possible. So, it is much more likely
082that it's probably somewhere in the middle, like probably somewhere closer to like $300,000. Would you agree? It's probably somewhere in the middle, right, >> Jen to follow up and then Peggy? >> No, this is just a soap box moment for the bus companies. Um I No, I just like because like we're only evaluating, let's say, every month. So, they're really they have potentially to make money on not providing a service. I just just find that like it we should have the option then of doing it more frequently, right? because we're being forced to use them because we can't hire enough people to um get our own buses. So like it's like um we're in a position where we have to give kids rides and we're getting rigged over the cold start. That's it. >> It
083just as a comment if you remember from our budget presentations and we Mr. Fabiano's talked about the 30 3030 club of of areas within the budget that have gone up 30% in in the past two years. It's healthcare, special education and transportation. Uh so like you may remember that last year we talked about that Boseies was increasing their transportation cost by 30%. And on the coaster it went up exactly 30%. So like um it it it definitely is a one of the major plus areas. Um and I you know I mean it's same thing with charter buses like when we when we utilize charter buses now for field trips and things like that as as you know both Miss Reeves and Dr. to zero honest know like it's a nightmare um because the prices that
084they're charging are so much greater than before co and I'm sure part of that is because a lot of those companies got really kind of hammered during co where they went out of a lot of these like was it bowman that went was bought out or there was companies that went out of business got bought out so >> and then there's no you don't have any options and so we are you know sort of a captive audience and it is terrible I will say the monthly I'm not advocating for bus companies but uh the ability to at least be able to revise ridership numbers monthly. I thought it's pretty good. I was excited by that. You're not just saying, well, if 22 kids can ride the bus, then that means that all year long you
085have to pay for 22 kids even if five are riding it. To me, at least is good. That that flexibility plus if if like we did in the past, we decided to do it and held firm to the cancelling the routes. If we don't have the five, then you're not paying anything for the rest of the year. So, I do think that as long as the district does that, then you're being financial stewards and it's not like you're just paying $80,000 for the year for no one riding the bus. >> No, I just I think that school districts are heavily regulated, right? And I think that there could be like a regulatory thing put in place for bus companies because we're not the only bus. We're not the only school district using this bus company.
086So, if it's seven from our district that we're paying for that, no one use and then it's eight from the next next district, like they're making money um on not providing a service. So, I just think it could be it could be regulated or at least like um I don't know something. >> You know, it seems >> just realize that Jen get Jimmy and go to Albony. >> Just realize that the cost that we have per pupil is not the same for every district. >> Interesting, >> right? Because it's whatever whatever the pricing was at the time of the bid that they had is what they pay. So >> this is a good price even though you know in the long run or the cost over 10 months is a higher number. We could share
087a bus with Wanto and they could be paying $800 a kid and it's the same bus. >> And that's why the shaman rate is lower >> than the other ones. It's not because it's closer. It's just because the bid is is I guess older and and the number is lower. >> Peggy, did you want to ask your question? Yeah, I was just going to say I think we all agree with you, Mike, with you know trying to get more drivers, but I I can go back since co ended. We have done every single thing. I mean, if people have ideas, share, community members have ideas, please share with us because we have exhausted uh job fairs with buses. Remember the big bus sign we had on the front law, the school bus. We have uh
088reaching out to other districts about shared services. We put on adding bonuses for joining our our squad. We did training. We'll train them. We'll do We've really have generated and worked >> Yes. >> sign on bonus. Like we really have been working hard. So if people have any outside the box thinking, creative ideas where the the board and the district office is certainly open to some suggestions. >> We've posted in the fire departments. We I've gone out to the retired people from the town of Hempstead and Stan National. >> We did radio commercials. >> That's funny. >> We did the best. >> Yeah. I have a question. Um so it's kind of piggybacking off um with what Jen was saying. So let's say all right 22 students from Shamanad most likely, right? Let's say they're
089all h however many you're taking the bus right after school. Is there a way that you can is it possible that you could that you have to sign up that students would have to sign up let's say for the late bus and only five kids need that late bus so we're only going to pay 366* 5 >> I can like pre proactively in other words find out who potentially needed >> on our private and pro application there is a portion that says late bus requested I can tell you that based upon the most private schools I want to say 97% % of all of the applicants said that they wanted a late bus. >> So it's not like you have 30 kids and only six said that they needed a late bus. Out of Shaman,
090you have 22 applicants, 19 requested a late bus. Holy Trinity, you have 10 applicants, six requested a late bus. Kellenburgg, 49 applications, 43 requested a late bus. St. Anony's, 29 applications, 26 requested a late bus. It's everybody wants it. >> Yeah. >> Right. But if if let's say then but it would even be that much less for the you know what I'm saying like if it's just the ones who requested it and then we could even just for the first month that 8,000 that 29,000 would be less for that monthly cost for a service that most likely we're not providing. >> But there's really no way to police it to say that you know okay so out of 29 students only 16 requested the bus and now you're going to say okay these are the
091names of the 16 students and no other student can ride on the bus. I mean the bus is there. They enrolled. They applied for private and parochial transportation. Even though they didn't request a late bus, they should be able to ride the bus. >> Okay, that makes sense. Thank you so much for that. Does anybody have any questions on this slide or do you want to move to the next? >> I have a statement here. >> Go ahead. >> So, it says 49 kids from Kellenburgg have requested the bus. Correct. >> That's the That's the application. 43 requested the late bus. >> Okay. But is there any day that there are actually 43 students on that bus? No. >> No. I'm going to say maybe you got 10 12. >> That's a guesstimate. Yes. >>
092Okay. So, it's there's no bus pass for it, is it? >> No. >> What do they use? >> No. >> So, if I rode the bus on Tuesday and Wednesday, Mr. Winch rode the same bus and there's still seven people on the bus. Just put the kid on the bus. There's never going to be 49 people on that bus. >> That That is correct. But you you have to say that you have to do I want to say like 80%. So like I said, shamanad is 22. You want to say that you want to average out that there's going to be at least 15 kids that may ride on that bus. If you have 10, ridership may be six or seven kids. You have 49, maybe 20 to 22 kids are going to ride that
093bus. You you average it out that way saying that you know some kids are going to regularly go home and some kids are going to ride the bus and on a daily basis. Yes, it can fluctuate based upon clubs and athletics. Yes. >> But you're never going to have 49 kids or 51 kids, two other kids jumping on the bus by accident, you know, at Kellenburg. No, >> let me go home with Johnny, my friend. We're hanging out at his house. That doesn't happen. >> We're paying for those seats and we're not paying for individual people. So if I'm paying if if I buy three subway tokens, I don't use tokens anymore, but if I bought three subway tokens, you know, and it was just me and Peggy going on the train and all of
094a sudden Jim wanted to come. Here, take a token. I paid for it anyway. I paid for that seat on the train. I paid for the seat in the bus. I'm paying for that seat. We're all paying for that. Every tax is paying for that seat on that school bus. And it's saying we are paying for up to say 49 kids. We're never We're overpaying. >> Yeah, but I think and correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Reeves, is that we wouldn't we would we would provide them with an estimate that's closer to what we think is going to ride the bus. >> So, we're just showing you on this what would be the worst case scenario. And I just mean financially. I'm just saying like because >> we want to make sure that we let
095you know like listen like if everybody decided to do it, which >> never going to happen. >> Not going to happen, >> but it's not impossible. Just not going to happen. >> I'm going to say this is the worst. >> Highly highly improbable. >> I don't disagree. That's why I said before like as much as the range is 160,000 to 600,000 it is likely to be closer to like 300,000 that's the actual probably likely number but I can't I can't necessarily that's based upon >> all the years before co so like that's what we would guess would be the amount I but once again just letting everybody know the details that it could be that number it couldn't possibly be more than that because not there's no more enrolled kids that would be able to
096take the bus but yeah it's it is not going to be these numbers this would be the max it could be, but it is more likely to be somewhere in between that range somewhere probably around $300,000 for the year. Um, if you ran those routes and and you had five kids on them, it could be less. If you if you cancel the routes because you didn't have the wrership, then it would be less than that. >> So, it it's I'm saying it's a it's a hard thing to predict. I can all we can do is provide you with ranges of where we believe it would fall, but it is most likely to fall around, I would say, the $300,000 mark. But if we're paying for that number of seats and we're only using 20 of
097them, >> right, >> we're wasting taxpayers. >> Absolutely. Yes. >> So, >> which is why the board had developed the five amendments. >> We're not paying I'm not paying for Joanna, Mike, Beth. We're not paying for those seats. We're paying for the chair that you're sitting and not paying for your name. You're not getting a bus pass having your name on it. So my thought would be if we're paying for the seats, let another kid take it. >> Peggy, you wanted to say something about it? >> Just so I'm just thinking out loud actually. So let's say we have 22 kids on Shamanad's bus. >> I guess it will. >> That could take that bus. >> If we say, "Okay, we're going to try to make this work, but we're going to do half the
098amount of kids that's on this list." So Shamanad hits its 11 kids that day. Is the bus driver going to say, "Okay, number 12, you can't get on the bus." Or could they just get on the bus and then we have to pay the following month for them? >> Once again, the the the bus drivers are not going to be able to police that. >> Okay, so that's good >> to say because that's a good >> to say, okay, Levittown has made their quota of 10. You know, no more Levittown kids today. And then the kids are stuck at school with no way to to be able to have their parents come and get them from from school. just get charged the next month >> and it would be not based upon every like today
099there was >> yes that's why I think we should just whatever we're going to do we need to discuss these numbers >> well that's why previously it was cost effective because Levittown did it so we did it per vehicle it was not per pupil so whether there was 10 kids or whether there was 25 kids they all went on one bus but at this point at this juncture being that we have the driver shortage we do not have the capab capability of doing vehicles and the only current contracts to provide late bus transportation are those depicted on in the in the uh in the diagram. How how do you do the numbers on a daily basis if um >> you don't? >> Huh? >> You don't. >> Yeah. If they're not checking bus passes, how
100do you how do you know that you're keeping the >> Each each contractor is required to provide the daily writership? >> So, they will they would have to be mandated to send us over the daily writership. They would have to maintain how many kids were of lever towns that were on the bus that rode that day. >> Gotcha. That makes sense. >> Yeah. Like we showed the the previous slide about this year with the middle school they they do for even the Latin school they are providing us with wrership is why it's it's we know it's 1.9. So every every month we have the daily wrership for that bus of our own kids. But you're right they won't bounce off a child that's supposed to come here. If the average wrership for that month is
101higher than what we told them then they will increase it for the next month. But I I don't want to I just want to be careful. So I don't want to get bogged down too much into like whether these like this is going to be the number. Like I said, this is just the maximum cost. It could be likely to be 300,000 because I think there's another slide just like this. So can you just go on to the next slide? Right. Right. So this is just in regards to the the low range versus the high range. All right. What which is what we've said. Right. I mean the only thing we we did want to mention is that you know the more late buses that we let's say let's say whether it's our own or
102or private school the more of our own drivers if we are able to do it you do run the risk of running into some shortage issues because remember that around the number of 4243 includes about what two spare drivers >> no about three or four >> three um but we also have driver absences every day and so you could run into situations where all of a sudden now you don't have enough drivers to do both your athletic runs and your late buses. So it just it becomes a little bit of a concern. So I'm not saying to that that shapes the decision. It's just something to keep in mind. That's why Miss Reord and their use of district drivers will affect athletic availability. Just means that even like I would say last year was it
103golf? >> Yes. >> Right. Where we many instances had to cancel the golf bus to Beth Beth Page, right? Mhm. >> And parents had to drive their kids to to golf because >> supposed to be a minivan. >> Which is why we've even tried to to >> expand this to train our coaches to get their driver's license to drive the bus. Um >> yeah, we had a meeting. They came down. They all smiled and said, >> "Yeah." Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Next slide. Can you move on to the next slide, Mr. Reeves? Thank you. >> Okay. I want to just talk about these quick. Is that all right? >> Yes. >> Okay. Uh so just some considerations I want everybody to keep in mind. Um in the prior to COVID when we had late buses
104and we had the policy um just remember uh for those may not have been on the board the the minimum of five um is a wonderful concept in the beginning of the year but then once buses start getting cancelled it does lead to frustration for families right because there was a late bus in the beginning of the year and now there's not a late bus now because we didn't meet the policy. So just once again, not a reason to do it, not do it. Just keep in mind that there have been meetings in the past prior to COVID where we've had a lot of upset people come to say that you canceled our bus. That's terrible. My child can't get home now. So just realize that if we do decide it to do it and
105we do the five minimum, that that may happen. Um as I said before, the wrership does fluctuate significantly by season, but um really if you're going to once again cancel it if it doesn't maintain five, it's canceled for the year. Um, and then you may have had the writership in the spring, but you canceled it in the winter. Um, part of the issue, as you know, when we've tried to do the middle school one is figuring out an exact time at the end of the school day that works best for everyone. Um, there is no time, you know what I mean? Like whether we've tried 4:30 or 5 or you know, like if you're if you're on an athletic team, it's unlikely that you're done by 5. Um, but if you're if you're in a
106club, the club maybe is running for an hour after school and if that's ends at 3:30, are you going to stay around till 5? >> Um, so just once again, it just is difficult. And so while a lot of people might want to ride the bus, the time itself may not work for them. >> Um, and then I already mentioned that last. >> Okay. >> So this these are the questions that came up from the reorg meeting when uh the board started talking about this. I just wanted to make sure we covered any question that came up. So one of the questions was about league ridership levels and we included that chart about the numbers the costs um we're we're definitely covered in this presentation. um how many routes right we think we said seven
107right based upon now look we have more more private schools than that but they don't reach the five minimum we don't don't provide a late bus unless they at least have five enrolled because they wouldn't be able to actually >> meet meet the five minimum shared services we kind of talked about that that for the most part most districts are using contracted providers and so theoretically the the per pupil cost is a shared service right >> um and so you Um most of the districts around us use contracted routes. They don't have their own buses. Uh Boseies does not offer late bus service. Um the cost for today we included in there and just realize that in the current budget we did budget for the middle school late budget late bus but we did not
108budget for high school. So that would have to be something we would have to see if the money could be found. Next slide. Oh. Um so before we move on to this I just want to know um does anybody go back one slide? Um, anybody have any any questions that were not answered by this presentation on late buses? >> No. >> To you did a fantastic job. You took a comment from all different sides here >> and answer all the questions. Thank you. >> No problem. >> She's been working till 10:00 at night. I've seen it. >> Okay. >> My driving my skylight at the top of my >> Okay. So, go ahead. Do you want to hear the childcare transportation request or take a consensus on this first and or and do or how
109what does the board want? Do you want to do the consensus questions together or separate them? >> I'd rather do it the consensus now. I mean like to do the lay buses now. >> Are we good with that? Okay. So, I'd like to get a consensus on the board. Um, so should we modify our policy to provide high school late buses but consistent with the policy of the ridership of five? that needs to be very very clear that if it's less than five that the bus would not run whatever whether it's the local or our high school or our um private schools. I >> I I just want to piggy back. I'm sorry. I know you called the consensus, but if I could just add something. >> I know um Todd had said before the
110la last time we had to cancel the late buses, it really was it got so out of control in this auditorium. I was chairing the meeting and it was me and the business official I think Mr. Chatterton, I think Chesterton Chesterton >> and it got so out of control. We had to call security. Then it got really out of control. There was so many people. I think that people really just need to know like if if we're really willing to try this again, like we need to work as a team collaboratively with the, you know, members of the uh our our community members who choose to send their kids to private schools. That's a good thing for them. But I think people really need to know and I hope they hear after this presentation, we're
111really interested in the good for all children because they live in our community. So what what I would say even just when I heard honestly when I heard I I I'm just speaking for myself, my kids went to private schools their whole life. So did I. When you say se 47 parents out of 40 43 out of 49 said they're going to use a late bus. You know how that goes. That goes make sure you check yes on that bus even though you know your kid's not going on that. we need this pass, but that that doesn't help us. That hinders us. So, what we're saying today for anybody even at home that's listening to this is really know that we're really working hard to try to we consider all the students that live in
112in the Levittown community as members of our community. So, I just really want you to know if we do consider this again, there is a possibility that it might have to be cancelled and we really just don't want to replicate behaviors that have happened in the past. I agree. >> Good point. >> Okay. I agree. >> Um, so to get should do should do should do should do should do should do should do should do should we have to do it individually? >> I would just get a roll call. >> All right. >> So, real quick, this this doesn't if you're taking a child to >> No, we're not doing this one yet. >> Yeah, we're just doing the one the bus the late bus for the high school and the private schools. The Okay,
113Peggy, >> what am I What am I doing? >> Uh, should we modify our policy to provide high school late buses? >> Yes. Jen, >> no. Mike, >> yes. >> Jimmy, >> yes. >> And I'm a yes. >> Okay. >> All right. So, let me just make a comment that um it's that's not a that's not a resolution, right? So, what we will do is then we will work to provide them. We'll then have to also modify our policy for the next board meeting, right? Because our current policy says middle school. So, um just I just want to let everybody know. So, we'll work I guess tomorrow. Are you in tomorrow? >> Yes. um on um on this. So, okay. All right. Uh as I mentioned before, the there were two items that came to
114the the were emailed to the board as requests or previous uh publicly heard about translation. One was lay buses. Um the other one was in regards to childcare transportation requests. So, uh as it says in here, trans a request was made by a resident to allow for students to be dropped off at an authorized child care provider. remember um that it doesn't necessarily have to be a commercial childcare provider. Could be family member or neighbor or what have you. Um that is inside the transportation zone even if the student's primary residence doesn't qualify for transportation. So, if I uh attend, let's say, Abbeby Lane and uh my child's going to be taken care of by a grandparent that um is in the Abbey Lane attendant zone um and gets a bus, then that child could
115be dropped off there as long as the parent signs off on it. And so, as with all these other pieces of transportation, like we heard earlier about the April 1 deadline, like a lot of this is governed by uh state education law. So um we did obviously a little bit of digging spoke with with district council about what options exist in regards to this. So if you go on to the next slide um this is the actual um section of law and what I had shared with the board a little bit earlier um when we were talking about this wasn't 100% accurate. Uh which I had shared with the board was that the board could choose to um not change its policy. It could choose to allow for students to be dropped off at um
116a non-commercialcially approved daycare provider that is within the attendance zone of the school or could approve it to include commercial licensed child care providers that are outside of that attendance zone but within the district. Um evidently in speaking with council uh today you the that is not actually the option. The option is to either continue to do what we're doing now, which is to not allow this, or to allow where uh a parent can determine that a child will be dropped off at a childare provider, either um a family member or friend or a commercially uh licensed childare provider. And that child care provider, if it's commercially licensed, doesn't have to be within that attended zone. >> Correct, M? >> Yeah. If it's >> if it's a licensed or regulated um daycare center, child care
117center, then it's anywhere within the district, not just limited to the attendance zone. >> Right? So that just means just as an example so everybody follows is that if approved then um let's say I once again live in the abbey zone and I am going to um designate my child to be dropped off at my um parents house their grandparents um and the district allowed this that would be approved but also would be if I decide to send my child to tutor time um which is not let's just say let's say I go to Lee Road that's not in that zone we don't have routes that run to tutor time we would then have to create routes that go there. Um because you can't separate the two. You you have to allow both if you
118allow one. Um >> transportation. >> Um you'll see here it says um >> so why are we talking about this? >> We did talk this was done a long time ago where we talked about this like I think 15 20 years ago about this possibility. At that point I was not superintendent. Um but if you can just move to the next page there. >> Okay. So that's it. Go back again. Sorry, I wasn't sure if there was more. But anyway, that's the law. Um, so in regards to this option, really what my question is for the board is that >> what questions the board have on this request? Meaning that is this something that the board wants to consider? Is this something that the board wants more information on? Is this something that the board
119doesn't want to consider? Um, like I said, uh, the law is pretty straightforward that if the district allows this request, it would be open to anybody in the district. um and they would be able to have their child dropped off at either a designated person's house or at a um child care commercially licensed provider within the district. >> So go ahead >> before consensus I would say this question. >> Yes. Does anybody want to discuss? Go ahead Mike. So, we're bound by state law or education law to transport to sorry to transfer to child care facility anywhere in the school district. No, this is an optional, it's a discretionary decision by the board. If the board decides that yes that they are going to uh transport a child to you know a a a family
120member or a non-family member within the attendance zone then the board is required by state law to also transport children to any licensed child care center within the district boundaries. So it could be in the other attendance zones. >> Wow. That's a game changer there. >> Yeah. >> But but that those locations, you know, have to fall within um you know, the the if you're going to transport the child to another family uh member or another babysitter within the attendance zone, that transport from the school to that location has to fall. It has to be at least whatever your mileage limit is, which I think is 75. um you know on your elementary level it it has to be at least that distance also. >> Right? So just once again to clarify is that the
121option would be if they if the board chooses to allow this any commercially licensed provider within the Levittown school boundaries regardless of where it is and then but families could also designate a family friend member neighbor but that person has to be within the attendance zone of that school. So, it's a little separate rules for commercially licensed providers versus a family friend, but you can't choose one or the other as a district. You would have to allow both. So, either you allow both or you allow neither. >> But also, the the non-commercial care provider has to be 75 or more. >> Yeah. Right. >> Jen, you want to say something? >> Uh, yeah. I think that uh child care issue can it can be difficult for a lot of families and I think that the
122fact that Levittown offers a before and after school program and I think a lot of people utilize it I think um kind of ways according to this where we maybe wouldn't look at doing this because we do have such a good in district program. So I mean I love LAP. Yeah I agree. I agree. Um do how do you want to proceed? Do you want to take a consensus that are we moving forward in re in looking into this or should we leave the policy as is? >> Personally, I think we should just take a consensus. >> Okay. >> Like we did on the list. >> Just keep in mind before you take the consensus, we're having a problem getting drivers for regular routes. Now you want So just keep that in mind when you
123make your decision. >> Okay. So um so should we modify the policy for childcare transportation? No. >> No. No. >> No. I'm a No. Okay. >> As well. >> Good point. >> Okay. >> So, >> that um concludes my reports uh for tonight. I did have um several responses to public be heard that I don't know if I have it on this chart here. >> No. So, I did have several responses to public be heard. Thank you. um that the um first one was to Mrs. Peron uh where it says here, "We understand the concerns raised about the half-day special education teacher model currently in place. Please know that we are always reviewing programs to ensure they provide appropriate support for our students. I anticipate that the board of education will be appointing an educator
124with decades of experience in special education to assist our district with an evaluation of all special ed programs, including the ICT structure. Please bear in mind that this is a comprehensive review and will take place over the upcoming school year. We expect that recommendations from this evaluation will be provided prior to the budget process for the 26 27th school year. We had a speaker, Mr. Bis, who also spoke tonight. Uh the response to the last meeting was, "Thank you for taking the time to speak at our July 2nd board of education meeting. We appreciate your insights on special education topics and your kind words of congratulations for former superintendent Dr. Tony McDonald on her new role with the Levittown Public Library Board. We truly appreciate your comments, your commitment to supporting students with disabilities, and
125your interest in ensuring that all learners have access to the resources and opportunities they need to succeed. Your input is valuable as we continue working to strengthen our programs and services. Our final sorry, final speaker was Mr. Uler. Uh thank you for sharing your feedback at the July 2nd board of education meeting regarding our district late bus policy. As we discussed during the meeting, we'll be evaluating your request in greater depth at our August 13th regular meeting which we just concluded. Uh other than that, um I do not have any other thing to report. >> Okay. Well, that was a very >> in-depth report. So, thank you so much. Um so, we're up to board of education comments and reports. Um so, I know there was a discussion about potentially updating the board of ed
126website. Does anybody want to Maryanne? um is not here, but she had asked me to also talk about it unless there's something you want to bring up. >> Uh no, what just what Marian had brought to I guess all of us was perhaps maybe putting like our photos up and bios. I think other school districts um throughout Nassau County also do something similar just so people in the community can have a better understanding of who we are, each of us individually, I guess, and what we bring to being board members. Um so I thought it would be a good thing also that Marian had brought that up and I think it's a great idea to help connect the community to us and us to the community. So perhaps we can bring some ideas or share
127of different um models of different school districts um and what their board of ed websites look like. >> Subcommittee. >> Oh, another committee. Now, I recently attended the uh conference in uh Albany and I I sat with the Central ISIL school board and they do the pictures and the bios on their web page and uh we looked at it cuz I was curious to see what they had and um it was interesting and and the lady said that I was sitting with she said that the people do um some people have nice comments, some people don't have nice comments when they do spot them on the read. So >> that's funny. Well, we'll be we're going to be nice. >> We're It'll all be nice. >> Okay. Um any Go ahead. Anything else? >> Um
128just wanted Oh, sorry. Pecky, do you want do you want >> I would just like to put this off till Maryann's here because I would love to She's the one who proposed it and I would love to hear her point of view on this. So, if we could just put this off to Maryanne K, you know, was here. I think it would be a good idea. >> No problem. I did speak with her today as well and she invited me to speak about it. So, I just want you to know I didn't do it >> on a side. You >> didn't go rogue. >> I didn't go rogue. I like that. Go ahead. >> I just wanted to make one more comment about something that I asked our district clerk, Vanessa, to do. She's going
129to get the contact information for um each school's PTA and the district SEPTA to see if any of the board members want to join each uh PTA. I don't know if people do that regularly. I try to join SEPTA regularly. Um, but I just thinking maybe this year we could maybe divide and just, you know, give back to the to each school, but I never know the the contact info. Um, because you my my own child is only in one school. So, I just thought if Vanessa can maybe send that to all of us and then however the board wants to proceed, I think it just be nice to have the information. >> Okay, great. Anybody else? >> All right, moving on. Okay, budget transfers. Do I have a motion to accept item 5.1 on
130the agenda? Jim, Jimmy, do I have a second? Mike. Okay. All in any discussion >> on my notes here. Um, is it possible you can look at budget transfer $27,129.99? Can you uh explain that? Said public ed, special ed, public school tuition. Yeah, the uh the purchase order was placed for um $70,000 uh initially and when the bill came in uh it was the the difference there and so um one of the nice things is that it we were able to fund it from within the special education department. So um the money came uh leftover money from BOSI services that weren't utilized uh to pay this particular um tuition bill. Do you remember what caused the uh increase? >> I I I I don't think it was an increase so much as we didn't know
131what the number was going to be when we initially opened the purchase order. And since the school year is now over, we can't amend that. So, in order to pay the bill, uh which we were presented of 97,000, uh we um we need we need to increase that purchase order in order to liquidate uh that tuition bill. I can get some more information on it if you like, but this is really just done as a closing. This is not discre this is not a discretionary budget transfer where we say we'd like to be able to spend this 27,000. We were presented with a bill for tuition for 97,000 and the purchase order that closed the year out only had $70,000 in it. So they did the best they could to estimate what that tuition bill
132was going to be. >> Okay. So it was an estimate then. So >> just as a comment for those that aren't aware, uh if a student goes into foster care in whatever district of origin where they go into foster care, that district is then responsible for um that that child's education. So even if it doesn't take place here, we do get build for it. Um a little bit similar to Mckin Vento with with students that are homeless. Whereas there could kind of like they could choose whether they remain and come into this district or not, but they go into homelessness here, then this district would be responsible for the cost of educating the child. >> I do want to thank you for uh you put the reasoning on the bottom of budget transfers now. So,
133it's actually good to see. Um that's fantastic actually, which is probably why you don't get that many questions from us anymore. You know, >> that's true. >> But thank you for putting it down there. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Uh do I have a motion to accept item 5.2 to you on the agenda. Did I mess >> Oh, did I take the vote? I got so excited. >> Discussion. >> I'm so sorry, Mike. I'm so sorry. Look at me. I'm getting all ahead of myself here. Okay. Um, so now what do I >> Yeah, you did discussion. All in favor? >> So, all in favor? Five. Against zero against >> I know. I don't know. >> Buer, anybody? I >> was like, what happened? >> Okay. Uh, do I have a motion to accept
134item 5.2 on the agenda? Peggy, do I have a second? Jen, oh, any discussion? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Um, President Lang, uh, please, uh, we're going to pull two names from the schedules for for various reasons. Um, schedule 103.2, number four, >> and 107.1, number nine. >> Okay. All in favor? Five against, zero. Okay. Uh, What? Wait, >> wait, >> what? >> Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, sorry. We're going to going to turn this over for a moment to Miss Gadis. >> So, we are very excited. Um, on the schedule, we did appoint Mr. Jeffrey Meyers as the interim principal of Division Avenue High School um for the 2526 school year. We are very excited. He comes with us with ex uh comes to us with extensive leadership um experience as a dean in
135North Babylon, an assistant principal in COPEG schools um and currently he just retired as Long Beach High School principal uh where he served for nine years. So we welcome you. We know that you will do great things at Division Avenue and with the staff and the board at Central Office is very very excited to have you on board and thank you for coming tonight and sitting through this long meeting. Um, but I know you have experience sitting through board meetings, so it wasn't too bad for you. But >> yeah, he's also a sitting school board member in North Pa, right? >> God bless you. >> So he said if any of you want to just take a little sbatical, he will absolutely fill in at the day for anyone. >> Come on up. Um, so
136welcome Jeffrey. We are very excited to have you. >> Congratulations. >> And we're about to appoint you for a DASA coordinator. So we we the excitement keeps on coming. >> Do I have a motion to appoint Jeffrey Myers as dignity for all student acts DASA coordinator of the Levittown public school? It's >> for division just to be specific. Right. >> It's okay. Yeah. For division public school. Uh, Jimmy, do I have a second? Mike, all in favor? Any discussion? No. 5-0. Okay. Uh, do I have a motion to separate item 6.5 setting the tax levy from the consent agenda for the purpose of conducting a roll call vote? Jen, do I have a second? Peggy. All in favor? 5. We're We're moving. >> Okay. Ready? >> Mhm. >> Do I have a motion to accept
137items 6.2 through 6.4 and 6.6 through 6.4? four zero. I got that on the consent agenda. >> Mike, do I have a second? Peggy, any discussion? All in favor? Against? Zero. We're good. Okay. Do I have a motion to accept item 6.5, setting the tax levy as written in the attached document? Mike, do I have a second? Jen, thank you. You're all getting me back for all the times I didn't raise my hand when I was sitting there. Is what's happening? Okay. So, we'll now take a roll call vote on item 6.5. When your name is called, please indicate your vote. Peggy Morang, >> yes. >> James Moran, >> yes. >> Michael Papus, >> yes. >> Jennifer Msina, >> yes. Christina Lang, >> yes. >> The motion passes. Thank you. >> Now, just so you
138know, um, our district clerk is going to be passing around the legal form that needs to be signed by everybody that you have voted in the affirmative. Black. >> Can we use black ink? >> Is there a particular color, Mr. Fabiano? Do they need blue? >> Here. Wait, wait, wait. Mr. Mar, is that blue? >> Blue. Go blue. >> Go blue. Just go blue. Okay. I don't know. Can >> it's black. >> All right. Um, 7.1 items give to school. Um, a new podium for Summit Lane school from Summit Lane fifth grade committee um for Summit Lanetown, New York. A check in the amount of $357 to be donated to the MacArthur five-star program from Levittown CSA unit uh 7551. Do I have a motion to accept item 7.1 gift to schools on the agenda?
139Peggy, do I have a second? Jen, any discussion? Thank you all so much. All in favor? 5 Z. Okay. Uh the second read for a policy number 5685, maximum temperature for school building and indoor facilities. >> Just just a just a second read. This is this something that's required by the state in regards to um moving students or or shutting down schools if the room is hotter than 88 degrees. We air conditioned all of our classrooms, so this really shouldn't be a problem, but we still need to adopt a policy. >> Okay. Um and that's it. Our upcoming dates, August 27th, we have a planning and special meeting. September 17th, the regular meeting. Uh, may I have a motion to adjourn the special meeting? Mike, do I have a second? Jen, all in favor? 5.
140>> They wanted Okay. Okay. Good. All right. So, we're done. Meeting adjourned. >> I did it.