001Okay, it is 6 o'clock. We're going to call the meeting to order. Let the record show that all board members are in attendance. Please stand and join me for the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. There changes the agenda. Yes, we just have a few. Um, we are going to add a personnel section uh following community comments and we'll be moving item 15 um up to the personnel. The other addition is um item three on consent agenda um was added after it was published. So it's just the cse CPSE placements. And the last item is item 16 on consent agenda except resignation of science teacher. Okay. Any board members
002have any questions or comments on the agenda? Not get a motion to approve it. Make a second. Second. All in favor? Opposed? Stain. Motion passes. We have no community members in attendance. So, we will skip B and move on to C. The new the new new. Well, I'm very excited about the new C because it represents our newest hire at Marian Elementary. So, Chloe Jerzac is joining us next year as our newest elementary school teacher. Um, she currently works with us as a long-term sub in third grade. So, she came to us from Rochester City Schools and we were lucky enough to get her as a long-term sub, first for Mr. Cow in third grade and now um for Mrs. Buckles in third grade. Um, and in the time that we've had Chloe working at
003Marian Elementary, we've found her to be all the things we would love in a staff member. So, she's dedicated to her students. She's an enthusiastic uh member of her grade level team. She is a great asset to the building and you know a positive energy that she shares with her fellow co-workers and most importantly her students. So I couldn't be more thrilled to be recommending her for a probationary position at Marian. She's here tonight. Okay. Can I get a motion to approve? I'll move it. I get a second. All in favor? I opposed. Same. Motion passes. Come up and shake. Congratulations. Thank you. Welcome aboard. Yes, please get up here. Get up here. Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you. Welcome aboard. Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you. Yay. Chloe. [Laughter] You're welcome. Have a great night. Thank
004you so much. [Laughter] Move on to board of education reports. We have to select three people for Bosey's board of education. Any board members have any opinions on those three people? There's three vacancies and three I had a comment last time and everyone pointed that out to me. Yeah, there's six people. Six, then they some that was different info than we had. Look at where's the I see. They're all attached. Oh, there it is. There it is. Yeah. Got it. What did I look at then? No, because Michelle, you are the three of them the name is in front and then the other three the name is at the end. They formatted the files differently. So, okay. I don't know names so I don't have anything I can give anybody on any of them. There's
005from one from Hell Mac, one from Sodas, one from Victor, Manchester Shortsville. Those are smaller local schools to us. Yeah, we do normally go with Wayne County if possible. Senica Falls, couple from Penny. Uh did you when you were in Sodas, did you know Mhm. He was fellow was a board member while I was a soda like a soda school board member. Um and I know I've seen him I think at every four county meeting that we've been to he's been there so I think he's been involved. He's also seeking reelection. So he's currently on the board. I'll second that. We doing them individually or all at once? Um, they need to be individual. Okay. So, all in favor? I opposed. Seain. That motion passes. So, Philip Rose is number one. So as far as
006around us, so does Manchester. Mhm. Yeah. So you do know one. Yeah. Dave Lon. I thought Dave has been super involved at FA been a pretty good asset there for L. Is that your recommendation and nomination then? I would say sure. Yes. May I recommend nominate? I'll second. All in favor? Opposed? Stain. Motion passes. Heather Bachman from Manchester, also known as Red Jacket. Feels like she's on several count. Yeah, she's engaged here. Work. So, Robert Johnson from back is She served at she was vice president and president of the for county school board association. She's been very engaged in for county by she was part of the someone have a third. I gave to I'll nominate Robin Johnson. I like her longevity and varied experience that she's got listed here. 11 years in. Yeah. Okay.
007Is there a second? Second. All in favor? I abstain. Now we have to do the budget. Ministry budget. Do I have any questions or comments on the administrative budget? That's good. That's what it is. I got a second. A second. All in favor? Opposed? Sting. Motion passes. Um the third item we have on here is the open forum. Um the conversation that Dr. Lloyd and I had with Williamson is on the agenda for a little bit later. Um there it was a good conversation I think but I it's going to take some work to move forward with with joint positions of any sort. um we talked about and I don't want to get too far into it until we a section but again um we agree that it's a good thing to keep working on
008but I think we can have a piece of the open forum be a combination of the merger why we didn't move forward with that what we are moving forward which is collaboration with other districts Um, I don't know if there's any other topics that you want to put out there or do we want to open up for the community to submit questions like we have? I think that topic is going to fill the whole time just from the questions that we've had coming in even from our staff members. I think you're going to fill the entire Okay. I'm okay. And if it's shorter, it's shorter. But I'm okay having it a single topic or do we want to open up for questions like we have like presubmitted questions like we have in the past? Oh,
009I assume you meant questions on that topic. No, just overall like we have had no community members here for months, right? So I don't really know what the community members really are thinking right now. Yeah, I think that could be a good opportunity even if it doesn't populate this open forum. It could help guide the next. We've had we've had success in getting a variety of topics in the past by allowing community members to ask the questions. Well, I guess I think as long as when we put it out that we preface it as listen, that may not be a topic of discussion at this forum. Yeah. But we're kind of looking for, you know, things that are concerning to the community. I think they don't things that may be good topics show up anymore.
010So, I think I think we do we should have part of it be the merger. Oh, yeah. Definitely. I think we need to discuss it because people didn't understand why we were doing it. They felt like it just showed up even though we said numerous times the state was telling us to. I I've gotten mixed results or mixed reactions from community members. Some of them have come back and said, "I don't understand why Williamson did what was going on. You guys kept us informed." Like whether or not they understood exactly why we were moving forward, they what they weren't caught off guard. Again, we can we can secure our position. We can, you know, field questions or concerns or thoughts. Yep. Put it to bed. Well, I don't think it's going to be put to
011bed completely. People who felt they were not. That was probably one of the best analogies. It's going to come out 7,000 times, but that's good. So, then we'll lead in. I guess I guess it's a when, right? We just need to put When do we want to do it? When is our next short meeting? Right after or skip the admin while they're at ours if they want to be at it. Don't have them report. Move into it. [Laughter] While everyone's counting to come out, remember our meeting's up here now, though. All right. All right. Yeah, cuz six is May 6 is the budget hearing, right? Or do we push it off into June? June. When's the which one is the retirement and recognition? That's the last meeting. So that'll be the 17th. I don't think
012you'll get people in June. I think they are shutting down at that point mentally for the year. So is that like a wait till September thing? I would do one. I just wouldn't do it. Do we have to do it on a board meeting day? I was just trying to make it easier for the to be there. It's really these two that we make. I'm fine. We haven't requested and sometimes we request that the rest of the admin team is not there just that they're not it's our conversation with the community not the admin team's conversation with community after the June 3rd meeting. So about June 3rd I might not be here. Oh, okay. Do you really think the 17th will be that? You're not in the finals this weekend, but the 17th is the
013recognition. Well, I can tell you Tuesday the short week are you you're not here? I'm not here 19th, 20th and 21st. Okay. And then that that weekend is Memorial Day. There's no reason like the week before. I'm okay with doing it off remote work because it's big as well. Like I can't do the 27th because that's the authority. Like I could do the 13th here. I have to come here anyways at 4 o'clock. So May 13th, right? No. Yes. May 13th. Okay. I could date May 13th. I have no idea. Might be a baseball night, but I can might be able to There's a band concert that night. I think there's a band fourth or sixth band concert. That'll be me. Yeah, that's doesn't work. That What about the 14th? 14th. There's no magic for
014it have to be a Tuesday night outside of schedule, you know, regularity unless you guys have a conversation. Any counselors? Nothing. I see. The marching band will be out front, but other than that, yeah, there's a community schools advisory board meeting that night, but it's done at 5:30. So, be said like 6. Where is that meeting? Here. 6 o' You want to do it here? Yes. Meeting here or down the floor? I would be here. Just like It worked out okay last time. It has worked out. We have to. We can push back this way a little bit more. Put more seats and stuff. And people always make yourself themselves comfortable. And the downside is just if they get overstacked and get around the corner, you there's Yeah. If they get that way, it's hard
015to it's harder to hear. But I think we can figure we can make it work. And if last minute, if they're there's 100 people that show up last minute, we could always we can always set everybody this way so that you're talking at an angle. At an angle cuz it's not doesn't have to be set up like a board meeting. Yeah. could be there and and that way if there's people you can any major controvers we have not streamed these yet we really want well that's what I'm asking if there is there just I'm just trying to bring the logistic in for the challenge of streaming is that's very directional but also one of the things people have said is they wouldn't speak if it was Like they come to this so they can talk
016to us. They wouldn't talk if it was televised. Really? I don't know. It was their chance to talk to us, not to talk to everybody. So, I kind of want to protect that, too, if they take their time to come. I feel like you'll get more people if you don't stream cuz Yeah, cuz I won't say how much be here to be part of it. Okay. Technology wise, it's still really challenging. That's fine. That's fine. That's why we didn't like it in the auditorium. That's why it's a technical. Okay. So, we have that scheduled. Our primary topic will be merger and collaboration with other districts and we will ask people to provide some input on if there's other topics they would like and we'll figure out what we can include and what we push off
017to the next one. Sounds good. Okay, we will skip student representative report and move on to superintendent reports. All right, thank you. So, um just I know I talked about hiring last time, but you know, just a little update because it's a tough hiring season for us. So, tonight you um approved Chloe. So, we have one elementary ed position that we've hired. We also um have hired a long-term sub for next year at the junior senior high to back fill junior fit simons for her internship. Um we have we are currently interviewing um for the second time for social work. So um that's something that we've reposted I think three times now. So but we do have interviews set for that. Um, we have interviewed three times as well for Spanish and have a final
018I have a final interview for that this week. Um, we've interviewed twice already for um, high school special ed. That's the place I talked about last time where we're having the hardest time finding candidates. Um, that continues to be a tricky area for us. So, we're exploring some other options in that area to get people who um might be able to like extend a certification in order to get that or um looking at allowable ways to temporarily put in place people who might have a different certification. We have um one open elementary ed position that's um we're starting interviewing this week. We have a great pool for that um position. our um egg business CTE posting. We also are in um the final round for that. So um that will be one that I'm hoping
019will be filled by the end of this week. Um we have a posting that just went up for elementary special ed. So far like it looks like we have a decent applicant pool started for that one. Um and then um after tonight's boarding board meeting, we'll also have one science opening that will um go up. But this has been a very long and drawn out hiring season with multiple hostings. Um I don't like to have this many openings like this late in the year, but um we're trying to be proactive, especially like um science. I've already reached out to some science contacts that I have in terms of like certification program people to at least let people know that like this is a posting that's going to be coming and can they have their students
020like be on the lookout for it. Um, but I'll just continue to update the board as we go because this is the toughest hiring we've had in a while. Um, does anybody have any questions about hiring before I move on? I don't. Okay. Um, as Rob shared, um, we met on the 15th with, um, the Williamson superintendent and board president and through, as Rob said, like, uh, shared positions and how those might work. Um, and really thinking more about, uh, shifting towards more shared programming instead of thinking about shared staffing. So, for example, like distance learning is something that both districts will be doing next year. We have some capacity to offer things um like Spanish 2 that Williamson needs and doesn't have. They have um some coursework that we don't have that our students
021could access, things like, you know, their um tech programming like Project Lead the Way or some of the business offerings that we don't have. So, those are the ways um that we're currently looking. In addition, um we talked about kind of expanding to have um conversations with more of what I would call like some of the western Lane County districts to look at collaboration on kind of a bigger scale. Um, so instead of just Marian Williamson, like what are things that we can access programmatically in um surrounding districts as well? So I'd say really um probably we're looking the most at programming over staffing, would you say? Yeah, the conversation about staffing is a little bit of a challenge because you you one of the one of the discussions was around the food service position
022and how do how did we look at it versus how did they look at it and they kind of looked at it more if they were helping Marian out because they had capacity in a person. So when they don't have as much capacity, they feel they can pull that person back. But that makes it hard for us to do long-term planning. The other challenge is is that just fundamentally we do so many things differently as a district as districts. So part of the challenge that they had again with the food service position is the way Lauren does things is so much different than the way she did things. So it was learning an entire new system and she is very efficient at the system in Williamson. She was did not feel she was set up
023for success in the position here because she didn't know it. So when we start sharing positions, do we more start back at the how do we do things and maybe make some changes to procedures and make our procedures more equal before we expect a person to step into both roles. Um and make it more of a partnership and try to try to set the person up for success better than this one position felt that they had. And so like I stressed like if we do these shared positions, it's got to be viewed more as a partnership between the districts, not a one district's helping the other district out. So it's April. Is this the first time we're hearing that? We could have changed programs. Just saying there there was there was conversation about that as
024well. Okay. Um, but we felt at the end of our meeting that the programmatic side of things, the student offering side of things was an easier way to start back into the sharing. That's I think that's really valuable insight um from the food service director um point of view of of having those boots on ground experience of being personnel shared between districts especially since it's as my knowledge not something we've done regularly before did it was Paul it was different it was a different scenario in that so I think aligning and like this came up in our conversations with the merger too of like what can we align and that makes collaboration an easier one of the other things I approach pointed out is as long as a district feels they're helping and it's not
025a partnership that that district always has the right to pull that person back when it's not in that district's best interest and maybe there's a way that we can look at some of these shared positions and create them as Bosey's positions that we're hiring the service from Boseis that's what originally intended this to do. Well, it was part of the conversations. It was to best my knowledge not a part of the conversation for this one position. Again, this is just one position that's a touchstone for what else we do. See, and I thought we cuz right after we came up with that, we met with Anita and we had said, can we do that with I thought we went backwards and did that with that. No. So we may have identified that kind of stuff,
026but it doesn't sound like that even bridged a conversation on the other side on in the Williamson on the northern border. I I guess my question is this and I I appreciate the time and effort, but I guess my I should the focus of our conversations be what position? Let's come up with a list of positions that can be shared. That way you've got we've got kind of a framework. You can't Is that Does that make sense though? Like if you say, "Okay, food service, this role, this role, this role, this role. Here are things that we could share positions in." Then you can start to create the job description, so to speak, for those positions that would accommodate both districts as opposed to, well, they do it their way. So, you know, you know,
027I I guess that's it. you got to you you can set a an expectation and a guideline for a role um you know offer it to the current person that's there but again if they if they're not going to if that person doesn't want it you know it's at least open it doesn't sound like at this point Williamson would be interested in creating a new position that if they in that position they wouldn't want that person have to compete for the new position which is why they can keep them. Let's talk to let's talk to let's talk to Wayne. Let's talk to I I I don't want to keep my personal or my concern is that we have a window like this right now. We have gaps we need to fill, but we're looking here.
028We're we're focused here. And I know you've done you just gave us this report on you we've gone through multiple rounds of of recruiting to fill and get good candidates in. So do we need to expand that window? Do we need to start, you know, just open this general conversation up about shared services, shared programming with more than just Williams? That that was kind of the discussion that we had was that's that's why with Williams at this point we kind of took the step back and say let's look where we can share programming because I don't I think we need to take another more broad look at how do we approach shared positions. Um and that's h how do we get to that point even? I can't really even tell you but I'm just like
029this is this is what came out of that meeting. Yeah. Um so I think if we want to look at shared positions we have to look at either approaching them with different districts or approaching them a different direction whether it's a Boseies employee that we that provides a service to our district through Boseies or whether that's a we re we we both have two districts have the same position and I don't even want to say it's us and Williamson but it's maybe it's us and sodas that have the same position open at the same time and We try to set them up for success for how like and allow them the liberty to change how certain things are done as long as it's done within what's allowed. Um I don't know but it it was
030just pretty obvious that at this point we're not ready to share positions with them to a great deal of success. Share borders in proximity with a lot of other districts. I don't know. Even though we don't touch a border, there's nothing since we can't share services. We don't have to touch We don't have to share borders to share services or to have special. We're going to do it. Yeah. But virtually there are no borders. Exactly. Anything else? No, I think we covered it. Okay. Um the next thing on here is uh the Marian Administrators Association contract. So um we are asking the final um copy the final draft of that contract is up tonight for board approval. I know we've discussed um the specifics of that in executive session. Um I would say probably the
031biggest changes or things I guess that I would highlight in there are just um in terms of salary, a 4% increase for the first year, 3 and a half% increase for the next three years. And then the other um probably biggest shift of specifics in there is just around healthcare aligning the healthc care language to what's in the CSEA contract and what's in the MTA contract. Is there anything else you would highlight from that? from well from the healthcare perspective then there's just an option of um potential buy retirement and move up again with that focus on like trying to have some options for reducing the legacy costs for the district which are large does anybody have questions about the contract I do not okay not can I get a motion to approve it I'll
032approve Thank you. I'll second it. Stay. That passes. We'll move on to excitement. School business administrator report. Chomping at the bit. Can't wait. I'm excit. So, I'm going to preface this. So, we had a facilities committee meeting um a couple weeks ago and two weeks ago and it was the point of this is kind of just give big picture and to make sure that the board on a whole is on the same page big picture not to get too far into the details of what's actually going to be there. I don't know there's 60 plus million dollars worth of work we could do and we don't have a $60 million budget. So need so it's kind of just kind of bring the board up to what we've talked about in the facilities committee and give
033a big picture and make sure the board as a whole is on the same page as far as what we're doing before we get too far down and we pay an architect to do work and then the board says no we don't agree with that. Okay. Good introduction. All right. So, what we're going to look at tonight is we're going to look at the debt service in terms of um what it the current state is and what it could look like in the future. And then we'll also look at the next uh capital project in terms of a timeline and the scope. Okay. So, this is this was produced by uh our fiscal financial advisor uh Bernie Donigan. And the goal of our debt service and building aid, as all the board members know, is
034that we want the building aid and the debt service to offset one another. So in other words, um if you look at column F, you want all these numbers to be as close to zero as possible. If you look at column uh C, that's our total debt service by year versus column D, which is the building aid by year, you'll notice for 2627, they're virtually the same. In 2028, that's where we have some uh significant change. Now we have building aid outweighing our debt service by 200 plus thousands which tells us it's time to get a capital project in play. Um and so the purpose of balancing that debt service and building aid is to have a consistent budget from year to year to avoid peaks and valleys by having that imbalance between the two.
035And also it maintains our facilities as we progress. Not at $60 million a pop. Correct. That would be correct. So this is just a a nice graphic illustration that shows the same thing on as the previous page. Uh 26 and 27, right? We're flat zero. And then starting at 28, we have that 200 plus,000 difference. So, debt service outlook. So, this is just an example. This shows, and again, this was produced by um Donigan. This shows an 11.7 million project utilizing $1 million of capital reserve. Um and you can see in column H that essentially you have a net zero between building aid and total debt service by incorporating that. This is showing three different scenarios. So scenario one was displayed on the previous slide. Uh, scenario two is utilizing $2 million out of the
036capital reserve, which would get us to a $16 million uh, capital project. Scenario three is using $3 million, which brings us to $20.4 million. So, essentially, each additional million that we take out of capital reserve is about a 4 to4 million increase in the capital project. These are estimates based on these assumptions that building aid will be at 83.3% uh and that 95% of the capital project would be aidable. Um the ban or the bond anticipation note which is the one-year bridge for the serial bond would be at a 5% interest rate. The serial bond would be at 6%. And with those assumptions and those numbers, we're looking at no additional tax impact, which is that net zero. Anyone have any questions so far? Um, I can tell you that getting our selection down to
03720 millions is going to be hard for a project. Rich, when does uh so is it because in 2028 we we dropped a capital we we dropped a bond from the last capital project right that's why that's going yeah the debt service falls off the debt service falls off right so when in the cycle is the next debt service fall off you're getting ahead of me sorry because again I'm looking at this yeah so let's go to the next slide Okay, so here's a timeline. Um, so currently, and this is just not highlighting everything, but some of the key dates. So, currently the facilities committee is meeting. Uh, we've had two meetings. So, 2025 is planning. December of 25, we'd like to go out to the community for the uh project vote, assuming that it
038passes. Um, then our architect would finalize the plans, submit it to SED for approval. Hopefully that'll be approved by January of 27, assuming that's the timeline. We go out to bid, we get the contracts in place, and we start the project hopefully around May of 27. June of 27 would be the bond anticipation note, which is the one-year bridge for the funding. Um, and then June of 28 would be the serial bond. The fall of 28, the project would wrap up and then the final cost report would be submitted by December of 28 to ensure that we got our first u building a payment in June of 29. Does that answer your question? Not quite, but okay. We're close. We're close. So scope, which is what we've been talking about with the facilities uh planning
039committee, and this is primarily determined by our last building conditions survey along with input from the committee. So districtwide, we're looking at asphalt replacement. We're looking at either new HVAC or replacement of existing HVAC. And of course, with any capital project, there's asbestous abatement involved and electrical work. especially with new HBAC. Uh at the building level, um taking in mind the priorities of school safety, uh general building upkeep and maintenance, and student program improvements. At the elementary level, we're looking at carpeting and wall tile work. Uh the auditorium, restrooms, exterior door replacements, uh basement water issue, which has been addressed in the previous projects and most of it has been mitigated, but there is still some uh moisture and water issues that need to be addressed. And then the water line um from the street
040at the junior senior high new roof is due. Um the septic system is ancient needs to be addressed. Phase two auditorium lights. So in the last project we did phase one. So the plan was to do phase two during this upcoming capital project. The fire alarm system is outdated and we can no longer get parts for that. So that needs to be replaced. uh the building envelope, which is all the masonary and brick work and the windows. Um there's some issues there that need to be addressed. And then um of course with our new CTE initiative with the egg program, we need to renovate the egg or the tech rooms that area as well as um looking at adding a outdoor building that would include classrooms and being able to house animals. The auditory sound
041system is also ancient and also needs to be updated. Any questions here? I have one piece of information, but we can talk about it after. Okay. Big big picture. Big picture. Remember the big picture comment. Yeah, I I agree. But there's some things that lead up to one of the items on your elementary list that we should discuss. Okay. So, the HVAC stuff that's been discussed, that's really your big spaces. is to allow us to have kids in the building if we exceed the state maximum temperature. So, it's going to be your gymnasium, your auditorium, your that type of stuff. Makes sense. It's also where we put them during regions when it's 90 something degrees out. So, so it just and that's in both buildings. It's so it's looking at having the large spaces in
042the elementary school and the large spaces in the high school air conditioned. The problem is the elementary school can't serve it. So it's a new electrical service. That service is so old. So it has to be replaced. So it's kind of this snowball effect that we have. Okay. Will you go back and just have that list up? This one? Yes. questions like some of the stuff like the asphalt that how much of that actually gets done will be determined as the scope progresses. I just thought I thought on the last couple things there was concerns about site work being covered under certain parts of I can't remember the details so I apologize but it seemed like when we were talking about tennis courts and that stuff there was components that could be covered couldn't be
043covered with a I thought there was some most sight work is not covered by that's what I thought so it's a balance of how much site work can you do with the building stuff to keep that percentage of 80 that's Again, Rob, that's exactly what I'm bring. I don't remember the details. I remember this, but I get if you're putting a million dollars out of yours, for taking that out of reserves to, you know, event project that doesn't have that doesn't have to be You really think you're you're angling towards a $20 million? Yes. All right. Is that because like what we need to sorry what we need to get done like there's nothing under that threshold that we can complete that would be use well it comes down to there is so much that
044needs to be done there's a lot of stuff like our electrical service and the elementary school would have been considered past end of life probably before I was on the school um things things were not maintained as they should have been. Yeah. Projects were not done as they should have been. So there's a lot of maintenance. It's the same old adage, Amber. Expenses have out outpaced the the revenue piece or the ability to do this. Things have come to the end of their useful life faster than you can pay for them. That's that's truly the correct me if I'm wrong, but we see it everywhere. I see it in every town, village, and everywhere that we get involved. Sure. I mean, even at home, you know, Yeah. It wasn't the thing that was making the
045noise. It didn't exactly. So, so it feels like we're looking at like 15 options and we can pick like two. That's kind of where or what hypothetically speaking. Financially, we can do the $20 million project, but to to get the most amount that we can without impacting taxes would be very handy. Um, okay. Car wash. So, the smaller How many times you go through the smaller one? We we looked at the smaller dollars. We started looking at initially because we couldn't make it fill that that gap first three items on each of the list for each different. Well, the thought was then if we did actually go through with a merger, you jump to 95% aid. So you do you push a bigger project off as late as we could. However, it's looking less likely
046that a merger is going to happen in the next three or four years. So we to in my opinion we might as well it's cheapest to do it today. The more we can do today is cheaper than if we push the tough off. So if we can do the $20 million project not increase taxes to me that would make sense. But again that's why it's coming to you guys. That takes three million out of the capital right out of the reserve out of the reserve. But if we don't do it all, you still may take another three million out and only get three million for it to put towards something if it breaks. I follow you, but are you going to be able to get 3 million back in there with the current pace and
047rate? You know, you you know what I'm saying? Like go get that magic ball. I expenses continue to outpace revenues. Are you going to be able to put three million back in reserves in a in a timely fashion? Because a $20 million project isn't and my question goes back to when does the net the current So we have 2030 I think is what you said at the that's what I was asking. Yeah, Robin was a question I so what's next? It's not the one that we're it's not the current capital project. There's there's there's two iterations, right? There's one that's going to drop off. There's one that's got about 10 more years on it or so if I remember correctly. And then there's the current capital project we have in that scheme. Right. So this
048one drops off in 28. The next one's like 30 six 30. That's mid30s. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's what I thought. And again, I'm going by crappy old number. So all right. And again, the things are only getting more expensive, which is my push to do as much as we can today. Yeah. But the project you do today in 10 years is a lot of it's absolute anything. HBAC efficiencies, those kind of things. Efficiencies don't matter. Maintenance does. Any other questions? Is there an overwhelming opinion on what level of project we should go forward? I'd like to sit with that to be honest. I think some more information from our facilities committee meeting. Again, good information is kind of giving us a backup. Here's the state of the union kind of the kind of stuff. you
049know, big picture. What else? I'm leaning two or three. I I don't see a point in doing one. Looks like it leaves way too much off. Three. $11 million doesn't buy anything, especially when you're talking to one million more in and get almost five extra, four extra million stars. That's just I see Jason's point of If you take it all, what is our capital reserve anticipated to be at the end of funding of this year? You know that number off top of your head. It's currently at 3.3 million plus whatever we put in it this year. So if you dedicate three million in a year and a half, basically two years if you're if you're still only got a couple cycles to put a couple hundred thousand in a year, but close it out, right?
050Well, 27 you would start when you do the band. Do you take it out when you do the band? You you generally start before you get the van money, you need a little money. Yeah. So you're paying the architect, you're paying, but this money is sitting in an account to be used for this. Correct. It can't be used for anything else. Correct. It's not. Okay. Well, that changes capital reserves. Yeah. So, this is money that we've set aside specifically for doing these projects. We can't take it out and do anything else with it. It is set up for this because I don't want to lose it. That makes sense. I'm good. Go stream. I talked it to him. Should I go to the last slide? We should just put Jason, you know, because you always
051have questions. It's not a bad thing. Something that I mean, I know that's why I'm saying my glad you hear that. Agreed. Great. Thanks for But I still didn't see Doug out. He's not listening. At this moment, at this point, I would really settle for out of 20 million bucks. I think we can. It can just be chain link with a roof. I'm good with that on stone, but concrete. I wonder if you if you got the donations. We got labor. He said he'd donate his labor. I didn't get the design from Daniel. Okay, we'll move on to policy review. Anyone have any questions or comments on the second reading of the policies that are listed in the agenda? I do not. Were pretty uh Yes. They were You had don't really have not a
052lot of straight out of the book. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I love those policies. There's no questions or comments. Can I get a motion to approve them? I'll move it. Can I get a second? All in favor? Oppos? That passes. On to consent agenda items. Anybody have any questions or comments on the consent agenda items? Not. Can I get a motion to approve? Okay. Have a second. All in favor? Opposed? That passes. We have one community member. Do you have any comments? No, you guys are doing a lot. Just wait what all the naysayers say. Thank you. What naysayers? I think we should sign up. Um, so we will move on to a motion to go in late for the specific purpose of what? Discussing potential litigation. Say that. It says that it says executive session
053for the specific purpose of discussing potential litigation. Then I'll move it. I will say I. Okay. All in favor? Opposed? That motion passes. We'll go into executive session. Pretty sure there's