001I almost think that has to go on that side. >> American flag is always on its right. >> Wait, on on the right of everything else. >> I think I knew that. has to be on the right side of the other flag. >> I think >> Yeah. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Um just like to say uh thank Kevin Petta publicly uh for stepping in for me the last couple of months um when I was pressed into other duties or away. Um the uh first item on our agenda for this evening is communications from the public or press. I don't see anyone here. I don't believe that uh looks
002like they are interested in addressing the board other than our scheduled speakers of course. Uh so uh absent that we will move on to information and reports. We'll start with our student exeicio report and Mr. David supposed to be. So talk about three mainly high school. So probably all I will discuss it more. I want you to survey the students as well as the doctoral student coming to Missina. Miss uh Jesse Tobin is coming to research positive youth development at in a in rural communities such as our high school. Um she will be interviewing both students and staff including myself. And then uh the holiday funday tomorrow for will happen the last two periods of the day. Uh things like the cornhole tournament, movies, pingpong, can jam, Mr. Crazil is doing some logic games and
003then uh a bunch of other things including Lulu the school therapy dog will be around but that'll be all. >> Okay. Any questions for Andrew? So um this doctoral candidate how like how did that person come to want to come to Msina? >> So I'm I actually have very little information on the subject. Um, but I'm assuming that she developed her thesis and like came to the conclusion that this is what she wanted to do and then found schools that were rural like Medina. >> Okay. >> But >> Okay. And do you have any idea how that's going to impact the daily schedule? Like you said that she's going to be interviewing certain students. Is she pulling them out of study halls or or places where it's not going to impact um the academic day?
004>> Yeah. Um it'll be like one student or one teacher at a time. So students will be able to miss either a study hall or like five minutes of their lunch or maybe one class that they're um that they're like missing one class happens every day. You'll be students will be fine. >> Okay. What prompted this? >> The student coming. The doctor student coming. >> Jesse Tobin. Yeah. >> I'm not sure. Um the Mr. Oliver would be the person to go. I believe he uh brought this information to me actually. And um yeah, >> actually I I can take Mr. Oliver off the hot seat and Andrew on this one. Um, so Miss Tobin is the student I was referring to uh in a board update a couple of weeks ago. She's the uh Sunni
005Albany graduate student working on her PhD dissertation. She started working with Msina. I believe it was last year um when she was working on some graduate work and she was looking up community schools and that's how she became involved with Msina. um began talking with us about our community school, what what it is that we do and became intrigued and that's what she's actually focusing her dissertation on is the community school concept in rural in a rural school setting and she asked if she could do some research here. She's gone through the entire research process um and has um Sunni Albany approval for her for the type of research that she's going to be doing and I believe we've also gotten parental permission of all the students that are going to be involved. It's a
006small handful and she'll be spending some time here just getting their feedback from the student voice the student lens. >> Any other questions on the student exeicial report? All right, we'll move on to the facilities committee report and trustee LeBlanc. >> So, we met in November at Madison at the same night as the parent. It was a parent night with it was a busy place. We had the King and King and Gimo, the constructor and the architect present. We touched on a lot of subject. The track and field, the Jefferson drainage, the junior high superior walls, the concession of the high school, the canopy, the turf. Uh that was about the capital project that's coming up. We're still preparing the documents. They're still investigating a lot of needs so we can come up with a
007defined need and eventually go out for bid. We talked about the Jefferson tree removal. We updated ourselves on what happened and doing a great job and we also talked about the fleet of vehicle that we are now leasing instead of owning to save a lot of money. We then toured Madison and essentially it was we had minimal concerns so the school is well manageable well maintained. We then uh that's it. We then met. We met again earlier this week, but I could not attend that meeting. >> There was another meeting for the facility. I don't know. I can't report from that one. I don't have the notes. >> Uh I don't know. >> We met at Jefferson. We King and King talked to us about uh phase one and phase two. of the project, the
008design, they talked about mechanicals, the the they gave us a larger discussion about mechanical, electrical, plumbing at all the buildings for the next two phases of the project. So, we got a pretty good discussion like overview of what they intend to do. They had the mechanical engineer there. Um, I don't have the agenda in front of me. I'm trying to wing it here. Uh, what else did we do? Uh that was the lion share of it. Um the other item is gone. >> We uh we also discussed uh we discussed the backboards in our elementary schools. >> Uh we also uh we intended to to discuss uh the pool rates. uh for community groups using our pool here. Uh we tabled that uh we needed more information and uh we also discussed a possible donation
009we may see uh for the scoreboard. Uh we then toward Jefferson there were no no major concerns. >> Thank you. And the the intent would be to to have minutes prepared for that meeting so that the board can kind of have a running record of that as well. >> I would I would hope >> we can do that. Yes. >> Okay. >> Can I just ask for a bear? What what do you mean by the tribes agreement? >> You're talking about literally the >> the swimming >> the fees. I mean it's currently it's a current practice >> conditions and fairness. I don't understand. So let Ron talk about um for every school facility use there's a fee schedule that's supposed to be in place and currently we don't have a written agreement with the trips
010group of what the pool fee will be. It's been a longstanding you know approximately 7 to 10 years of uh basically what amounts to a general person's agreement um which really is not in line with the board policy. So >> through facilities we we need to hash this out more and then make a recommendation. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any further questions on the facilities? >> Um, what is meant by reviewing the backboards? >> So, about two weeks ago, Andrew, we had um a backboard at Jefferson Elementary. It came off the wall um while it was being used. We had our varsity team was there working with younger students, showing them basketball skills during that course. It fell down, actually landed on one of our senior students. And what we're concerned about is the construction
011and how those backboards at the three elementary schools are actually connected to the walls. So, at this point, we have um shut down all three of those gymnasiums from use of the backboards. We can still use the gyms um but we're just not using the backboards. Our facilities director, Mr. Tessier, has been working um trying to find a uh a vendor, an engineering or a contractor who will come in and inspect those and give us either a clean bill of health or to tell us what we need to do to remediate. Um we're still in that process. It's a very difficult uh task to find someone who's willing to come in and take that kind of liability. So, we have two potential right now and we're still working on that. This is going to be
012probably at least I would say at least another two months before it's fully resolved. Further questions on the facilities report. Okay, move on to the president's report. Um, all I have just one item. A couple of days ago, uh, Ashley sent the board information about the area 6 legislative breakfast on February 13th in Lake Placid. Um, I believe Trish and I went to this last year. Uh, really good opportunity to to have conversations with and hear from our elected um, state representatives um, on a variety of topics. Uh it's at the High Peaks Resort in Lake Placid at uh 8:00 in the morning if you would like to attend. Um just contact Ashley and she will get you registered for that. And uh all of the information on that is linked to our agenda tonight.
013And that's all I have. So we'll move now to uh reports from administration and I'll turn it over to Mr. Burke. So, at this time, I'd like to ask Mr. Allen, our information and technology uh department director, to come forward and just give a very brief update. And then we'll also hear from our facilities director as well. Just some brief updates on their departments and where we are today. How brief you want me to be? Just making sure this is working. All right. So, I'm Mike Allen. Most of you guys know me. Um, I've been here for 28 years and I'm the head of the technology department. Um, I've got uh five guys that work for me. Three are Msina employees, two are Boseis uh staff members. Um, we've done some exciting things this year.
014Um, you know, all my guys, they're they're good guys. They all have unique set of skills and they make one heck of a team. So, um, so so far this year, um, from the start of the school, we've basically swapped out like 650, um, old 15-inch computer monitors to new Dell 24in ultra ultrasharp monitors. It makes a huge difference. We've upgraded all of our, um, Windows desktops to um from Windows 10 to Windows 11. We've implemented an Apple management system on our network. Uh, we've created a Mac lab for our um, the art students and all of our students to use. Um, we've inventoried, labeled, upgraded over uh 3,000 uh Chromebooks to the latest OS. Uh, we've got some new wireless controllers we've installed. Um, getting ready for from basically wireless 5 to wireless 7,
015which runs at a lot higher speeds at 6 GHz. Um, we've enhanced the door security system this this year. We've u given new badges to all the employees. I believe everyone on the on the board's got a new badge. Um, we've done a lot of stuff. Uh we've done, you know, a lot of things through 3D uh 3D printing. I've trained my staff so they can, you know, better equip themselves being out in the field and kind of understand what um you know, helping our teachers out. Um and then we've done some secure printing uh with Canon and our Unilow copers. So looking forward, uh we just got uh 160 computers on order so that we can put some new computers in our junior high. Um and you know, other than that, we're looking for
016next year. We're looking at basically upgrading all of our wireless um in our classrooms and then going from there we're looking at um our first round of uh Chromebook replacements. So got some exciting stuff and you know it's uh it's been a good year so far. So you have any you have any questions? I know it's a lot to go through in a hurry but um do you have any other details on your they briefly mentioned Chromebook replacements? Yeah. So, right now we've got uh well over 3,000 Chromebooks. Um we're looking at the first model. Um I've actually going to be meeting with the board and through um the budget committee and we're going to see what we can have for numbers and what we can replace and what we can afford so that every
017student gets an equal opportunity. So that was easy. Any other questions or >> no question? No questions for Mike. >> Okay. >> All right. Perfect. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Mike. >> Yep. >> And now I'd ask um Mr. Greg Tessier to come forward and talk about uh the operations department, please. >> How you doing? I'm uh Greg Tess here, director of the facilities. I'm in oversee the buildings and grounds department uh here at all the school facilities. I've been here about eight years. Uh for those that don't know, I uh came up through admac business for a number of years and then I went to work for uh the plants as a milright, got laid off, got called back, decided I didn't want to get laid off again. So I went to
018work for uh civil service in the uh play series, which is running powerhouses. So I I did that for a number of years progressively got to the point where they hired me here. Um currently we have about 30 people in my department. We take care of everything from the grounds, the snow removal, maintenance, uh anything you see that's maintained. We do all the cleaning uh that all falls under under me. We have a great crew and the eight years I've been here I've hired probably 20 of the 28 people in my department. Um, great bunch of people. I think that's what I'm most proud of. Uh, since I've been here, we we I've uh been involved with every Capital LA project. I helped in do the transportation upgrade with the fuel depot. I uh worked
019with the and energy management upgrades on two or three different capital outlay projects. We did some doors in uh one of the projects. I also worked with Hos from the village number of years ago and we decided to get ourselves a shared salt road salt facility. So we currently buy all our road salt for our snow plowing ourselves. Um I was involved with a steam line replacement when we had a problems a couple few years ago and uh I helped actually help uh steer them in the right direction for designing it and uh that's what why we have heat in the high school currently. Um obviously we deal with emergencies that crop up almost every day. As you know this year we first week of school we had a water main break in night and
020gale and few days later we had a sewer main problem over to junior high. That's just a couple of things we deal with on a on a basis during school year. Um every year it's something different. Um, I don't know if there's any questions of me, but I didn't really know what to uh what you wanted for information, so kind of gave you a quick synopsis. But anybody have any questions? >> Actually, Greg, I have a question that's going to come up later on with the um surplus. So on the truck and the plow blade, what do you project that the district will get for revenue from the sale of that if the board authorizes it? And then which account does that money go into? >> I wish it could go in my department, but
021it doesn't. Goes in general fund typically. Um we started recently with Enterprise and releasing our vehicles through them. So, I expect that as we get rolling through and we get rid of all of our own vehicles, we'll just uh when we get time to be replaced, we'll just let Enterprise handle it. What I found though was the first few vehicles that we've sent to Enterprise to as we replaced them, they were our vehicles, they didn't bring much for uh money back on the from Enterprise, I think one of them got the Suburban we just sent 8,000 something around in there. Uh, we got 2500 for one of the Ford F-150s and I think I'm still waiting for the information on the other Suburban. So, we just recently decided we got the two truck plow trucks
022to replace our uh aging plow trucks. So, we have two plow trucks that are actually going to be approved tonight hopefully. >> Okay. >> One with a Vplow, one with a straight blade. They're both 20 17s, I believe they were. F350s. I'm hoping that we'll get somewhere in the seven or eight range at least for those. Um, we sell them through Auctions International. So, I thought since there are vehicles and I wasn't really getting a warm fuzzy on the money get from Enterprise, I thought we'd try to sell them ourselves. Once we get rolling and we're replacing Enterprise vehicles with Enterprise vehicles, I I'll let them handle it. But that's >> and that's our option. We can we can do it ourselves or we can do it through Enterprise. >> Correct. >> Okay. Yeah, >>
023and I think Greg had the right idea with this one to declare them surplus. Let us try to sell them a truck with a plow right now, especially um this time of year, we should get a a better value from Auctions International. Some of the other stuff, n probably not so much, but these these have value to them. Good. >> Thanks. >> Okay. Thanks, >> Greg. >> Uh, next I'm asking Mr. Oliver, high school principal, and our IB coordinator, Mrs. Normile, to come forward and talk about the transition from being an IB school to offering AP courses. Good evening. I'm Alan Oliver, High School principal. This is Jan Normile, and she's important to be here tonight. She has been working in our IB program for 22 years, and she's been the IB program coordinator for
024the last 14. Uh, so if there's any questions tonight, you probably have the two right people, but she's really the right person to answer the question. the the pro uh I assume you've all seen the presentation we've given you. It's pretty straightforward. We'll be happy to go through it quickly and answer any questions you have. Uh the thing that we really wanted to start with is actually the story of how we've got here. Um uh Mrs. Normile for her entire time I've known her and myself for both my stints at the high school have always been a strong supporter of the IB program. So, it's probably a little bizarre that we're standing in front of you tonight saying it's time to move on from the IB program to AP. Uh, and where that started was
025what a month ago about a month ago, we had a IB faculty meeting. Uh, without getting into the details, every year we have to submit paperwork as in form of review to the IB. Uh, and every five years we have a significant uh review which is called a five-year review. we were having that meeting um and the amount of work that was about to come down the pipe at us versus where we felt like we were with the program and for me I keep waiting year after year for the the international baloria organization to sort of loosen up some of the things it's doing and I had the opposite feeling that it was getting tighter uh so in that meeting of the entire IB faculty uh almost all of it I won't say everybody was
026there but almost everybody was there I I posed the question is this an idea whose time has passed uh and I think it took about 10 minutes and if it was that long uh for every teacher associated with the IB the program director and the principal to say yes this is time for it's time for us to move on from this program uh so with that being said I'm going to let Mrs. Norma, I'll talk a bit about the rationale and sort of our plans moving forward and then we'll answer any questions that you might have. So, I'll step out of the way. >> Thank you. Um, so our rationale um there's several things. Uh, we've seen decreasing numbers um continually the last few years, especially in the full diploma pathway. Um, and that's concerning
027because th those small number of students kind of drive our entire high school schedule. And so we're kind of scheduling everything around a very very small uh group of students. Um, and there are a lot of scheduling issues. Uh, we there are always music and arts conflicts. Students have to make really really hard choices between do I continue in my music career or do I take full diploma or do I take these IB courses? And so we're hoping that we can kind that will go away and it will and students will have better um opportunities to take, you know, the courses that they love and what they're really really interested in. Um students can start taking AP classes starting in in 9th or 10th grade, which we're hoping can add some flexibility to schedule as
028well, whereas IB students can only start in their junior year. And all AP courses are one year in length where um several of our IV courses are two years and that makes it very very difficult to schedule to make sure that the student can continue on in that second year. It really tightens up our high school schedule. Um probably one of the biggest uh issues for me uh has been university recognition. uh the IB hasn't done a whole lot and they haven't moved really in this area where um colleges don't really they still I still have students come back and say uh I had to explain IB to an admissions counselor and that's very disheartening uh and they haven't really made a lot of progress in that area and whereas AP much more widely recognized
029uh so I'm hoping that that will help our students as well and like Alan and said, uh, they keep increasing the compliance standards and we're just we're not able to meet them. Uh, and so we're deficient in a lot of areas and it just makes sense that I mean we we won't ever get there. Uh so our plan for transition is that we surveyed the nine full diploma juniors and they all unanimously said that they wanted to make a clean break from IB and go right to AP classes next year. So May 2026 will be our last exam session. Um, we're we plan to replace as many IB courses as we possibly can with AP or at least an advanced or honors course that's comparable to what we have now so that students still have
030those upper level courses that they can take. Um, students uh will not be disadvantaged in the college admission process and we're actually hoping this helps uh them. Uh but colleges evaluate applicants in the context of the school of the courses that the highest level that they offer at each school and we of course hope to continue all our partnerships with uh local colleges so that we can offer that dual credit option as well. Right now we partner with Sunni Canon and Sunni Podsam. So we're hoping to continue to do that. Um the the costs um might initially be high to transition um but they won't be ongoing like the IB program was. Uh some of those initial costs would be getting teachers trained. It's recommended whereas the IB required mandatory IB professional development every five
031years. Uh the AP recommends that teachers be trained. And so some of our teachers may want that or need that, some others may not. And we'll of course need some, you know, textbooks and maybe some other resources as well. Uh we're looking at maybe we probably will need some summer PD hours. There should be over $10,000 left in the IB budget at the end of the year that can be rolled over into the general fund. I think that's where it goes. I'm not sure. Uh but we're we'll because we're not going to be training anymore. Uh that was going to be earmarked for IV training, but we're not going to do that. So maybe we can use some of those funds to help start these AP classes. And then most AP exams are administered digitally
032or in a hybrid format. And so we'll just need to make sure our technology is sound, which I've researched and Chromebooks are fine. We just have to make sure that they can run this one app, this one testing app. So, we'll take questions if you have any. >> Just a quick question. The um from a benchmarking standpoint, what are the other at least area schools, where do they land with this? Are they moving in that direction or are there >> We are the only IB school north of Syracuse. >> Okay. uh most of the surrounding schools are either AP or in many cases they've moved away from AP or IB in general and are just doing college credit. Uh we have a strong tradition of offering rigorous courses for our students. We want to continue
033that but it's time to take it in a slightly different direction. Andrew had mentioned uh with the IB classes that he felt the Chromebooks that we had were not totally um that they needed to be a step higher. Am I saying that correctly? Andrew, at least what about in AP classes? Will the Chromebooks be okay? Will they should they have more? >> I'm not sure we can answer that right now. Um, I would say IB requires a lot of research, a lot of writing, and AP does not. Uh, so maybe that maybe that issue could be resolved. I'm not sure yet. I don't think I >> I don't think we could answer that question fully. >> Can you speak to that? >> Um, yeah. I have lots of friends from other school districts and other
034states actually that do mostly take AP classes. Like even I have international friends that go to schools that take AP. >> And um in general a more powerful computer makes things easier, but from what I've heard from them, Chromebooks will be a little bit more sufficient. Um, so for we'll take my IB history IIA, it's about 2,200 words. Um, so 8 10 pages. The equivalent for AP is about 12,500. >> So, >> okay. Okay. you you mentioned that um uh part of the knock on the IB program is uh that fees and compliance standards are increasing. Can you uh give us some more perspective on what the uh how the how the fees compare, how the compliance standards compare AP versus uh uh IB? Yeah. So, um we have uh there are um probably at
035least I would say a hundred standards that we have to meet for IB. Uh and and they're all in different categories. And they also require that we do now we do program development plans and we're supposed to be doing four to five of those in an in a fiveyear cycle. Uh so they're are asking us to do strategic planning on top of trying to meet all of these other standards. With AP there is none of that. Uh so it is merely every year you submit your course for an audit process and they approve it or deny it and that's pretty much it. Uh, as far as fees go, um, the we have to pay an annual fee of over $12,000 to IB each year. And then the exam fees are also higher than AP exam
036fees as well. And then there's also the training piece of it as we usually spend it can be anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 in in professional development in a year for IB. and I don't anticipate that those that high a number for AP. So in a in a nutshell, it sounds like what you're saying is that for the number of students that are taking IB courses, um even even just individual courses, not not the full IB program, it's low enough and the amount of work and the amount of money and the amount of time needed to to propagate the IB program is just it's not really worth it anymore. >> Exactly. >> Is that what I'm hearing? >> Exactly. Yes. >> We gave it a good run for 22 years. >> 26 years. >> Yeah.
037>> Um uh on a personal note, I I think this is a a positive move for us. Um but can you explain uh how this move will impact a student's ability to earn college credits while they're with us? >> Does it impact it at all? Will it >> No. Uh long short answer, no. I mean, as of right now, all of our IB classes are crosslisted and receive college credit. I anticipate that same thing will happen with all AP classes. I can't promise that obviously because we have to work through universities, but I see no reason why they would not accept our AP classes the same way they accept our IB classes. Um, so I I don't see any appreciable change in that. There may be an odd class here or there, but overall I
038would think you would see very little dip in what we're offering for college credit. >> Sounds good. Thank you. >> Okay, guys. If there's no more questions, thank you. If any come up, by all means, get a hold of one of us. We'd be happy to answer. >> Uh, but thank you for giving us some time tonight. >> Thank you both. >> Thank you. Okay, thank you for that. Uh, moving on my report, the next item is to discuss the 2025 26 capital outlay project. And we do have a single bid that came in. Um, as you know, our capital outlay is capped at $100,000. The capital outlay bid came in at $11,100. So, clearly we're over. Um however on the advice of our um architect the advice is to take this contract approve the
039contract and that we will then do um a deduct change order and by doing that we will take out the components that are the masonry reconstruction and cleaning that would be surrounding the high school um sign and that will bring us well into our into our budget with our architectural fees. So we should be fine with that. It's a process that's being used pretty frequently as these capital outlays are going over the 100,000, which again is a legislative priority to get these capital outlays to go beyond that statutory limit of $100,000. Um it's nearly impossible to get work done um under that threshold. So again, the recommendation is to award the contract to um sorry, Northern Tier Contracting, which is out of Governor. And as a reminder, what that does is it places a security
040window from the vestibule to the high school office and then also a larger um more prominent sign for Msina High School on the outside wall. Any questions or concerns with that? Okay. Okay. On the other end, accepting donations, recommending um donation of a value of approximately $750 from the Msina Amvets Post for the ladies auxili auxiliary and the Sons of the Anvets. And this was used to purchase winter clothes for our winter clothes tribe. 1,500 cray crayons from Walmart. And those are going all ready for and it's hard to believe we're talking about this, but ready for school event in August the 26th. It's a great start to that project. >> Hopefully they're all individually boxed, not just loose. >> That that would also be my hope. It does look like they are all boxed.
041a donation of $4,380 from the Aderondac Foundation's Aderondac for Kids Fund, and that is to provide a day of skiing at Titus for the fourth graders, a donation of $300 from the Msina Basketball Association for Madison's Fizzad program, and another donation from Anvets post 4 of $600. And this is to help fund the snack program for our students during February break. So people who have served our country continue to serve our community in ways that are truly immeasurable. So I would like to publicly thank Ambos for the ladies auxiliary and the sons of the Ambits for their generosity to our kids. And then finally as Mr. Tesier said um the dispos disposal of the two plow trucks 2017 plow trucks um through auctions international and that concludes my report for the evening. Okay, very good.
042Any any lingering questions for Ron before we move on? Okay, we will move on now then to recommended actions. Uh, first is our um items on the consent agenda. And uh are there any consent agenda items that any board members would like to have removed from the consent agenda for further discussion and separate vote? Okay. Hearing none, I would entertain a motion to approve all of the items as a group for the consent agenda. >> Second. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any questions? All in favor? Any opposed? Consent agenda passes. Uh, moving on to other items for action. Uh, first up, we have approval of the capital outlay project letter of recommendation. >> Could I have a motion, please? >> So, move. >> Second. >> Have a motion and a second.
043Any questions or comments? All in favor? Any opposed? Next is the approval of the disposal of surplus items. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Questions or comments? All in favor? Any opposed? And uh couple of items that we turn over to Mr. Burke. So first I recommend the approval of the personnel action items listed as numbers 1 through 29. >> So move second. >> Any questions or comments? All in favor? That seems to be unanimous. And I also recommend approval of action items on personnel listed as numbers 30 through 34. >> So move. >> Where are they? >> Go ahead. And you see those >> That's why We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Yeah. >> Okay. U questions, Rober? >> No, I'm good. >> Okay. Um, all in favor? Any opposed?
044That carries as well. Um, that concludes our business. Uh, our old business. Anyway, uh now we'll move on to new business and uh does any board member have a an item for a future board agenda they would like to have discussed? >> Um last year we heard uh Mr. Oliver gave a presentation about uh some collaboration between our high school and Canton College and at some point I'd love to hear an update how things are going. Uh, I don't need a slide presentation, just a few minutes refreshing the board's memory on what that partnership is and and how it's going. >> We will schedule that. >> I have a question. Do how is the progress on policies about AI, the use of AI? So, as a as a policy committee, we have not looked at
045that. Um, but we can certainly pull one from Erie if you if looking at our chair, Zach, if you'd like to, we can pull that and begin discussing. >> Okay. Any other items for future agendas? This is not really a an item for a future agenda, but um I I still think we have an issue up here, at least where I'm sitting. um particularly folks out in the that that are speaking from the podium and depending on which board member it is. I'm still having an awful time understanding a lot of what's being said and we either need more of a monitoring system up here so that we can hear better or something. I I think the the sound quality is fine out in the auditorium. I find it lacking here at the board table.
046Um, I'm having I have a hard time understanding Rober. Uh, you have a soft voice. >> I'm just glad you said that. I thought it was >> I had I had a terrible time understanding >> said, "Okay, having a problem here." I'm so glad you said that. >> I had a terrible time understanding Greg and understanding Mike tonight. Um, Jan and and Allan were were more strong of voice, I guess, or something. Um, so I didn't have a problem with them, but I just I we we've got to do something up here so that we can all hear what's going on. That's a strong feeling I have. >> I will say over here it is a little bit better, but um >> I also have trouble understanding you sometimes. and you've got a you've got
047a big big voice. >> Um but the second person to prevent to present I don't remember his last name but um it was definitely hard for even me to hear him. So >> can we move these monitors in or something? I mean >> yeah, >> right. >> Yeah. >> To because of the ado. >> That's what it is. Yes. Any other uh items for future agendas? >> Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask for a short executive session to uh discuss personnel. >> Okay. Um this would be items leading to um employment, promotion, demotion, etc. Okay. >> Correct. Um, we have a motion for an executive session. Do I have a second? >> Second. Any questions? Uh, all in favor. >> Okay. Very good. Uh, I don't believe we will be taking any action after
048executive session. >> Correct. So, uh, at this point, uh, we would, uh, certainly wish, uh, on behalf of the board, um, very happy holiday season and enjoy the rest of your evening. Thank you.