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Red Creek BOE Meeting, January 21, 2026

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YouTube / Red Creek Central School District
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2026-01-22
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Wayne County, NY
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2,366 words · about 14 min
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2026-06-09

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001One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. Can you please make sure that your phones are either turned off or on silent? >> No seniors, you don't have anything to say. You sure they're not even going to look up. All right. Okay. Mr. Verman, did you want to start with the MVPs? >> Uh, certainly. MVPs uh this month. Uh we had 30 MVPs uh this month and uh I'd like to to read a couple of these for you. Uh Mrs. Brenda McCarthy Middle School. Brenda is one of the most dedicated people in the building. She is always trying to find the best ways to support her students. She truly wants each and every one of them to succeed. Her effort and commitment to her students is palpable and should

002be celebrated more. Great vocabulary from that person as well. So, uh, Jessica Petty, she's our nurse, uh, in the elementary school. Uh, Jessica is an amazing addition to our team. She is supportive of staff and kind to our students. She goes above and beyond in any situation. She takes on responsibilities as and is more than just a nurse to our students. Uh, so great, somebody new to our group. Uh, and lastly, uh, Mr. Gaffne received an MVP award. >> Why does he look so surprised? >> Yeah, I didn't know. >> God, I just brought everything. [laughter] >> Uh, a letter. >> Uh, I I I normally wait to to deliver them until after uh the board meeting. So, uh, Tim is steadfast and highly effective leader who whose consistency, reliability, and follow-through make a daily

003impact on our building. He approaches his work with a strong sense of purpose and a calm, steady presence that others naturally trust and respect. Tim's depth of experience and knowledge is truly unmatched. And he brings that expertise to every situation, whether it involves establishing clear routines and procedures, addressing complex challenges, or supporting staff and students through thoughtful problem solving. He is not afraid to dive head first into difficult issues. and each conversation with him is focused on finding practical, meaningful solutions that move us forward. Our high school has greatly benefited from Tim's leadership, dedication, and commitment to excellence. His work behind the scenes and in direct support of others helps our school run smoothly and successfully every day. >> There's another page. [laughter] >> He looked up a couple of times. Is he gonna stop

004reading? So, just a couple. Um, and as Mr. Thingman indicated, I I normally try to hand uh we try to hand those out typically right after our uh our board meetings. So, in the next couple of days, uh folks will get those. So, >> so be surprised, Mr. Gaffne. >> I am. [laughter] >> All right. Uh moving on to the minutes of the meeting from December 17th. Could I have a motion, please? Mrs. Kaiser and a second. Mrs. folds. Any questions, corrections? All in favor? >> Any opposed? Any abstensions? >> All right. Moving on. Uh, financial reports. Would anybody like to make a motion >> motion for D1 through five? >> Okay. Can I have a second, please, Mrs. Allen? All right. Any questions? Okay. All in favor? I >> Any opposed? Any absentions? >>

005All right. Moving on. Um, would anyone like to make a motion for the consent agenda? >> I'll do a motion for E1 through six. >> I have a second for that. This folds. Uh, any questions on this group? I think the the copy's been updated with a couple of changes to uh the salary. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just a result of the the new contractual agreement language just it's new. So >> any questions? Mrs. Decker? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Damon? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Kaiser? >> Yes. Mrs. Allen, >> yes. >> Mrs. Fo, >> yes. And Mrs. Madigan, >> yes. Thank you. >> All right, moving on to new business. Somebody want to make a motion for some all one Kaiser. >> I'll do one through four. I have a second for that. This folds. Any

006discussion? Can we talk about the policy that I emailed you guys about? >> Just about the time frame. So, um, >> this would be 7313. >> Yes. >> Okay. You're welcome. >> Um, >> so in the changes, we're changing the time frame for appeal to 10 days is the proposition. Commissioner rulings say that that time frame is too rigid and does not provide enough time for due process and um does not follow education policy and education law. So I propose that we leave it at the 30 days which is what um the commissioner has ruled as a reasonable time frame. Um I just don't want to see us kind of getting into a sticky situation. So, actually in a lot of her rulings, she well I say she right now to she. It's probably maybe

007not. Um the commissioner has ordered districts to change it back away from time. So, >> so I had received this question in advance. I'm not sure. I I tried to kick out something late to to folks this afternoon. I'm not sure if everyone had a chance to read it. I did follow back up with our legal counsel regarding that change from, you know, the proposed change from 30 down to 10 for the appeal language. And uh again, the response that I got in there was provided that there is an exception clause that's written in our policy. essentially, those are my words, um that that the 10 days with an exception clause uh for extraordinary circumstances is permissible under commissioner rulings. >> I didn't see that anywhere. So, I actually went back to see if I

008might have missed it. And when I read through them, it I didn't see anything about an a clause like that. Um >> but he said it was from our district appointed attorney but stating that >> which other so other boards have had their policy say 10 days and the commissioner has ordered them to switch it back to 30 >> that have that exclusion do you know >> I don't 7313 currently have that exclusion or no that's what you're saying right now >> it's just 30 >> uh the exclusion came with the 10day change but they're both in that blue section. Yeah, I didn't print in color. So, I'm sorry. [laughter] What page on the policy? >> So, the very last one in middle page. >> Thank you. >> [snorts] >> should be under exhaustion. >>

009So, policy says 30, but code of conduct says 10. Or do I have that backwards? >> Okay. >> They match. >> Mhm. The current language in well what's the stricken language that you might be looking at if it's if it's not in color includes a 30-day appeal process from the date of my decision to the board of education. The proposed language includes a 10day unless the the parent or person in parental relations can show an extraordinary circumstance that prevented them from getting the 10 days. What was the reason that it used to be more and then it's going to 10? Is there was that an advisement from like year one or do we remember how that change happened? >> I mean it was it was 30 previously. Um, I'm not sure when it changed to

01030. If it I don't I don't know [laughter] what the lineage was there in terms of uh was it always 30 from the beginning of time? Did it change from another timeline to 30? Um, you know, oftent times I think what's tricky from Miss Decker's uh comments is each commissioner kind of has their own vision on some of those things and and um so sometimes the the philosophy in my words of a of a commissioner and and their stances that they take on certain decisions can can lean one way or another. Um and and they can sometimes change with the commissioner. So as as you know Mrs. Decker indicated right now it's this person and that's maybe where some of the decisions are but you know it's just like many of the things it's not

011static for for long term. >> So this question just so everybody's on the same page was brought up by Mrs. Decker ahead of time and um Mr. Venorman wanted to get clarification which is what got pushed out this afternoon by the school attorney and um I had just explained that this would be this would need to be a discussion on the board not just to you know obviously not to make a change um with a different motion without everybody you know sitting here. So um >> you know I I to me for my my seat I think the the 10 days though it's much shorter with the clause that that the family could show some sort of an extraordinary circumstance with no end date provides the family some flexibility provided there was a a circumstance

012for that. Um >> what I guess what's the rationale behind moving it to a shorter window. Well, partially I think it's now it's mimicking the code of conduct. Correct. >> Yeah, that language should be matching what's in the code of conduct. Like we would >> What was the purpose of changing it there? >> Uh I mean those recommendations would have come right from our attorneys. I didn't get a description as to why. I'm comfortable keeping the language as proposed by the superintendent in district attorney. Okay. [clears throat] I guess I don't understand what like there is 30 days in here like what part are we changing from 10 to 30 or what part do you want to say 30? So the part that we're changing that the commissioner has said should be 30 is from

013the superintendent decision to the board. So we're keep right now the proposition is to keep it 30 from the board to the commissioner but they only have 10 days. So like if somebody gets it on a Friday afternoon, they have 10 business days to get it back, >> right? So >> or present in extraordinary service down here, right? It's just >> like in the proposed language. >> It's just rewritten because then it has the exception. >> It's two full weeks. >> I don't [clears throat] appeal or write or >> try to change something, they're not going to wait 30 days to do it. They're going to do it relatively quickly. So >> maybe I don't know. I'm just telling you guys what what the commissioner has said. >> I'm also thinking is that of benefit

014because the process is >> sped up. Yeah. To get to a result. Um and I don't mean on the district side, I mean on the student side. Um >> I'm fine with leaving it. I think the faster is better. Kim, any thoughts? Are we still um considering putting some kind of a clause in there then for an extenduating circumstance? >> That's that's in the proposed language that is >> it would come with it the second section of >> Yeah. You're not Gotcha. >> I would apologize for the redundancy. I think in my conversations with the council, the only reason the 10 is in there is because it also includes the the caveat for the exclusion or or whatever we're referring to it as the family needs an out clause beyond the 10 days. >> Other

015thoughts? So we change if we approve that policy as is and we just have to update the wording on the code of conduct to match that at that point. >> No, the code of conduct is this match. Yeah, >> correct. >> Okay. >> Got it. Last sentence. Any other comments, questions? Okay. When you're ready. So this is F 1 through 4. >> Okay. >> Mrs. Boltz, >> yes. >> Mrs. Allen, >> yes. >> Mrs. Kaiser, >> yes. >> Mrs. Damon, >> yes. >> Mrs. Decker, >> no. >> And Mrs. Madigan, >> yes. >> Okay, moving on. Administrative reports. Any questions? Any questions for Aiden? >> Aiden, you're just raking in the dough here. [laughter] >> Is this from some of your favorite administrators over there buying students or [laughter] >> this is a pretty good

016elf day? >> Yeah. >> When can I ask a question about elf day? When did it um back in the day it used to go to the senior class? When did that change to be donated to the food pantry or another? >> That's a great question. >> I have no idea. >> Right. [laughter] I wasn't looking at you to answer. I didn't know if Mr. >> You just scared him because you just [laughter] looked at >> Sorry. I can see >> Did it change? >> I can see if I can dig into some specific stuff. >> You don't have to. No, I just didn't know if somebody, you know, would pull that one out and say, "Oh, it changed when we lived." >> I don't get to stand on a table in the cafeteria. >>

017We've made some over time. They they've made some adjustments. That is correct. >> Yeah, they're postits. >> Yeah. >> On a I know. >> I mean, >> ridicule in high school, you know. [laughter] >> Okay. I'm just wondering. I mean, it be a great fundraiser for the seniors. >> So, is this is this number since she's asking is this 767? That's what's being donated? >> Yes. >> Mhm. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. >> That's a lot of money. >> Yeah. >> And you seem so thrilled. [laughter] >> Yeah. I would have liked if it would have went to this game, but [clears throat] also nice. It's going to charity. So, >> it is great. >> We'll sell a lot of um Valentine's cake balls and you find >> Yeah, >> those are pretty popular, too.

018>> Yeah, that's a in school fund. So, >> all right. >> You guys can donate whatever you want. [laughter] >> Donate your salaries from the board service. >> All right. Any other questions? All right, Mr. Berman, did you want to talk about enrollment? >> Uh, yeah, I think before I get into enrollment, uh, I just in in terms of my correspondence, I thought it would be appropriate appropriate to just remind folks that this week we did receive the governor's, uh, budget information. I'm sure it's starting to hit the news. Um, uh, you know, on all fronts. Obviously, education is one of the big ticket items in New York State. Um, you know, I think sometimes you'll hear that the the term education um is kind of a political football. So, schools are kind of in

019the middle of of these uh highlevel discussions around what the governor is proposing and what legislators engage in conversations around uh funding sources for for different things. So, we just got that those numbers this week. Um they're they're probably fluid because it it requires negotiation back and forth with the legislaturators. Uh so so they're not set in stone right now most likely. Um the preliminary reports indicate not outstanding information. um which has kind of been the same tenor uh the last several years uh on the initial pre uh presentation of the numbers and then it's that kind of football back and forth of negotiating what a little give and take on all sides. So, so it's still early yet. Next month we're scheduled to to do a board presentation on our budget. So, you know,

020each day that goes by we get some more information, a little more clarity. We, you know, internally we've been spending a lot of time, Danielle's office spends a lot of time working through the budget this time of the year, but it's, you know, fluid between now and April. So, it's uh it's early in that time frame. Um, and as we get more information, we'll keep folks updated. It's it's kind of premature to to really offer up a lot of significant information around it. Um, >> thank you. So, that was kind of news that hit the, you know, hit the streets this week. Uh, obviously, uh, each each month we we go through the enrollment data. I tried last last week to provide you folks with a little bit of context around uh some of those

021numbers and just some of the things that we're diving into. Um, but just kind of for clarity, overall, and in this school year, we've had 64 exits. Um and out of those 64 exits, 75% of them were enrolled went went to other districts. Um you know, and and we don't have exit interviews with students when they when they leave. Could be because you know, families, you know, somebody in their family got another job and they had to move. Uh I think about 10 of those 48 were out of state. Uh which I think if anybody pays attention to the global where we are with our state population, that's you know, probably symbolic of of where everybody else in the state is at this point. Um, of note, I think the other thing, one of the

022other things that I studied that I didn't include in my correspondence is out of the 48 exits or out of sorry, out of the 64 exits, 10 of them were new enrollies as of July 1 this year. So, we had 10 come in and those 10 have exited already. uh you know just kind of symbolic of you know a transient what we would consider to be a transient kind of population um [snorts] for any number of reasons. Um so they come in some of them were here less you know less than two weeks in enrolled out. Um it's a net equal in terms of our enrollment numbers but it but it fluctuates the the the sample size on those things. So um you know I think One of the questions has has historically been both

023from the board and and and one of the things that we ask about is you know our students going to homeschooling. I think I had shared some some data that shows New York State is is one of the school one of the states that is seeing the biggest pop uh percentage increase of students going into homeschools uh situations. This year we've had eight um eight going into homeschool, but we've also had two come out of homeschool. So, you know, a net net somewhere of six in in that capacity. Um so overall, our homeschool numbers are fairly consistent with where they have been in the last I'll say five years. So we are not seeing that 150% increase like you know they're saying across the state. So I attribute that to our you know the product

024that we're you know putting forward with our with our students. But you know I think the challenge with a lot of these things is so many of these factors are out of our control. Um, you know, if if a family moves to Asiggo, we give them a hug on the way out the door and say good luck and if you come back, you know, we'll welcome you with open arms. So, um, which happens fairly regularly? Questions on enrollment? >> Thank you for that added information. >> Yeah, it's Yeah, it's it's it's good to stay on top of. So, >> okay. Did you have anything else? >> I have nothing further. >> Okay. All right. I'll uh take a motion to adjourn, please. >> Not tonight. >> Okay. >> Um >> I thought we next month,

025I guess. >> Uh Mrs. Decker, Mrs. Folks. Thank you. Sure.

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