001Good evening everyone and welcome to Akran public schools legal contracts and uh policy committee meeting. Uh we will start by is there anyone to address the committee? Anyone to address the committee? Okay. If not we will uh I lost my train of thought. We will we will uh go over the minute approval of the minutes. I'm sorry. Any questions on the minutes from last meeting? Any questions on the minutes from last meeting? Okay. If there's no questions, we'll move on to Miss Carter. All right. Thank you, uh, board member chair Bruce Alexander. Um, thank you member Autry, member Harrison, and member Molinar and Superintendent. Today we are going to review the hard work that the city and APS has been working on as it relates to the facilities handbook, our CLC handbook, trying to make
002it more um accessible to our community. And so we've been working really hard or the city and uh YSS and APS have been working hard with putting this handbook together to make it user friendly. And so as it relates to some of the changes and the things that we're looking for approval on at the next board meeting is going to be presented to you. And so I'm going to hand it over to Dr. Ellen Mc Williams Woods and others from the city of Akran and also Deborah Folk who's with APS. And so Miss Oh, so Deno, you're going to come up first. Okay. So come on up and as you come up, if you could please just introduce yourself and what you do for the city and then easy segue. Thank you. Good afternoon. Uh,
003so I am Deno Buckley Knight and I serve as the youth opportunity strategist for the city of Akran mayor's office. Okay. Um, I'm the youth opportunity strategist for the city of Akan, but I also play a couple of other hats. I'm a a parent who has uh four kids in our Akan public schools district. Uh I'm also a a varsity football coach at East High School and um I also represent the Hoop for Coupe uh nonprofit initiative. So um access to CLC's is a is a huge kind of uh priority for me uh on behalf of the city and all of those kind of facets. Um so why do we want to improve CLC? Um one of the biggest things is we this is a response of listening to the community. our residents have um
004advocated for quite some time to have uh an increase in equitable access to our CLC's um and also um in the space of you know uh prevention of violence uh we believe that um expanding our out of school u time network and having uh spaces uh that are safe such as our CLC's will uh give our our kids an opport opportunity to thrive in the out of school time. Um but this is this is just the beginning. This is not the end. Um we have made some recommendations on on improvements um which you'll hear a little bit about today, but this is just the beginning. I wanted to be clear that this is the beginning, not the end. So um some of the things that we've done is um we've gathered challenges and solutions from
00570 plus community based organizations and ultimately what we want is for the pro the for for the revised procedure to be clear and transparent to eliminate barriers and to expand access. Uh so with me today um on behalf of youth success summit we have executive director Rachel Tekk. Uh we also have Dr. Element Williams Woods. Uh on behalf of the city of Akran Rex and Parks, we have Jeff Envia. And on behalf of the city of Akran's mayor's office, um we have Relle Wardell, who is our uh health and education strategist. And lastly, who I would like to pass the mic to is um on behalf of Akan Public Schools, Deborah Faulk. Afternoon, Chairman Autry, members of the board, and superintendent. At this time, we'd like to reflect on where we were. So, on the
006left hand side is the original facilities administrative handbook, and we actually put this together in 2001. This is based on some board policies and I will be honest with you it is still inactive right now. So as we've done our work over almost the last two years what you see on the right is the proposed draft. You have a copy of the presentation with the h new draft handbook in the folders that we have given you. So we wanted to just tell you the timeline why this was so very very important that we should move forward on a revision that also allowed us to put in some place right now some updates we've even done internally. So that's why now it's circled 2001. One of the things that we wanted you to see on this
007particular part of the presentation is on the left side is the old handbook items that we found where we had some differences between the city of Akran. It was a 26page handbook that APS had. We had some many dos and don'ts. It lacked clarity on who is responsible to remove guests not following rules. There was no checklist when exiting. There were different fees between APS and the city as we started to use the CLC's and many add-on fees to charge base to the rent. You will find in the new handbook what has been created and the accomplishments that we have done is one. We created one set clear transparent set of procedures that will be used by everybody here whether it's APS and the city for community usage. We have streamlined the new document to
00811 pages and drastically cut the number of words you have to read to 1399. We have a simple set of procedures organized by sections in a userfriendly language and we owe a lot of that to our team that work diligently to make this easy to read and easy to follow. The language is clear on the renter having the responsibility and authority to remove and/or ban participants or spectators from their rental events. And that was one of the questions that came out a series of committee community meetings that we held. We established a checklist to help renters with the responsibilities to end at the end of the rentals so that they know that they're putting the facility back together the way it should be found. We have one set of common fees between APS and the
009city and we're down to two group rates in including one that increases the transparency and consistency and we will go over that in a few minutes. And then the last thing is we had a significant reduction to the list of add-on fees and those are only going to be charged to high-end soundboard users, theater equipment, things that are not normally used for a typical rental. And at this time, I am turning this over to Michelle Wardell from the city of Akran. Mr. Chair, members of the committee, thank you so much for giving us time today. Um the last time that we came before this body uh we presented you an idea of three different groups with which would have three different approaches to fees. We heard from you and we also heard from members of
010our city council that um that maybe was a bit too much. Um it was confusing and and uh we we ought to even streamline it further. And so um we we put some ideas um into calculations and um after some some formulating we decided that really it we should just have two groups um nonprofit and not nonprofit. And so, uh, for group A, which includes, um, organizations who have formal a partnership agreements with the city or with the schools and for all nonprofit organizations and for the city and the schools, the base rate or the hourly rate to rent the building or the places within the building, those fees would be waved. for all other renters. Um we would come to an agreement uh where um all renters would have the same set of fees
011or those hourly rates. Um so those are for-profit organizations, those are churches who are renting the space for nonprofits who are doing fundraisers. um those those folks would be charged an hourly rate. When we put these numbers to pay to paper, um we see we came to this agreement. As you know, um when renting a community learning center, if you are renting a high school, those rentals go through APS. If you're running middle schools or elementary schools, those go through the city. There were times when when that didn't exactly work out and different fees were charged and that was confusing to the public. So, we want to make sure that we do not do that and we we came to an agreement whereas everyone will be charged the same rate no matter if they rent
012through the city or if they rent through the schools. When we made these changes and we decided to um make all nonprofits for free, we've calculated based on last year's rentals that the the schools and and the city will incur an extra $16,000 of cost. 12,000 roughly 12,000 for APS and 4,000 for the city. So, um, we will open this up to questions, which I'm sure there are several. Um, but first I want I want to just make it very clear that, uh, like Deno said, this is the beginning and not the end. Today's update represents procedural a procedural milestone, but we understand that this is not the finish line. It's just the foundation. Equally important, we recognize that all of the issues that we've heard from the community about access to CLC's are not
013just procedural, they are cultural. It's about making our buildings truly welcoming and responsive to all. And we are committed to carrying this out and addressing as many issues as possible, not through just tech fixes, but through trust building. So, we're working on centralized contacts in increasing access to non-traditional hours and nonAPS spaces, making insurance more affordable. We'll work to continue to re re reduce cost burdens and we are soon to begin conducting rental denial audits so that we really understand better the um we're better able to analyze access to our buildings because we believe that community partners and our community partners both yours and ours at the city they're working really hard to make sure that our youth have excellent and opportunities and that they are safe and we want to support our youth and
014so our system should work just as hard as our community partners are to make sure that we support our youth. Now I'm turn it over to Deborah who will field your questions. Okay. Are there any questions from any of the board members? I have two, Reverend Harrison. Um, I I I have two questions. Um, and I know we I'm happy to hear that this is the beginning because I know we're not going to get this get every question um over time. Um, so my first question is dual use. So, um, I want to use the auditorium, but there's a group that wants the cafeteria at the same time. Is that is that possible? Yes. And we do that all the time. So, I'll give you an example. Over the weekend, we recently had a city
015event in the auditorium at Bdal that the city staffed and we had an internal car wash for the one of the fundraisers for the football team that was held in the back and it was a uh obviously a school event. So, this happens quite frequently. Okay. Um and I'm I'm glad you mentioned that that example. Um c can can we take a look at um fundraising and okay and so when we're looking at students in Akran when we look at let's say a football pee-wee football and they're they they they are nonprofit but they are raising funds for their organization um and in whatever event they may have whatever they're doing um if if they're aan based there are students even though they are raising funds it's for their program so can we take a
016look at that I know it may not see how that works where they can get group A can can we take a look at that that was certainly part of our conversation um and we want to explore that further we will be working closely with the YSS group and actually over the last two weeks we've had several um entities that have come forward to us and I actually provided to exec uh director Tekk an organization last Friday and gave her and him the email address to contact them so they could go through the YSS process because I think that's really where we get the understanding of who's part of the groups because it's very interesting when you look at actually who participates states. They may certainly be a large group of our students that live
017within our district. They are also groups that come in where many of the majority of the participants are not. So, we've had extensive conversations over how to do this and and I'm sure we can proceed to look at that in as we go through this process. And one followup the the group B what we have talked about with the AAOU um that that puts um this is for uh Mr. Buckley Knight and um Miss Alec McWills Wood Dr. Ellen McWill Woods that group B is what makes it important what we talked about as far as um we want to be the one to be do group B as far as tournaments or whatever because if group B is out there then someone else will capitalize on that. Um and and I think that that financially
018is where the school and the city needs to be. uh co-chairs uh Mr. Alexander, Mrs. Autri, nice to see you both. Uh thank you for having us here. Um yes, I I think for the AAOU teams and that is you know we know that the leadership development and all those essential skills that youth are developing by participating in those is enormous. If we don't do something in this community for equity purposes, then we're going to have huge differentiation with families being able to participate. As you know, as I know as a former athlete, those travel teams and competitive teams, the higher up you go, they get incredibly expensive. So, we want to be able to support that and bring the cost down for families as much as we can. um link to your first question
019about looking at fundraisers. We feel very strongly about um needing to look at fundraisers for especially for nonprofit organizations because they're not paying themselves with that. That's going straight back uh to the youth. Um and we do have that on our list of what's next. Um, and so in that last slide of we're not done, you know, that's that's in that list to say let's get to this point where at least we have the same rates being charged between the APS and city nonprofits get the waiver on that standard rate and then we'll look right away to see so how many organizations now are getting more access and then how many of those are fundraisers where we could look at that and bring that cost to do next. So, we see that as as kind
020of the next wave. Okay. Okay. And all I the only thing I'll add um Pastor Harrison is um it was definitely intentional to make sure that as many voices like in that sports and wellness field had the ability to kind of give us their insight. So there was um representation from like uh AEU volleyball as well as AU basketball just to kind of like make sure that the rates that we're char that that we're we're we're proposing um is actually you know something that's doable that they can still you know implement whatever that AU tournament is but also still be able to like cover the cost. So, we thought that the rate for both the city and um a public schools uh for those forprofits, we thought that that rate was kind of um aligned
021with some of those organizations who said that they would be willing to pay that rate. Okay, any other questions? Uh M Miss Autry. Thank you, Mr. Chair. First of all, I have to thank each and every member of this team who put all of this together. This has to be probably the most uh mentioned issue to me since I've been on this board and even before I've been on this board. And so, it's long overdue. And so, this comprehensive handbook um and just the coming together to make this make sense, more sense is so appreciated. So, I just want to thank you and I'm happy that it the work is ongoing because I know there are things that we're probably not seeing that will arise. So, um my questions are around like parking lots and
022yards um fees for that. That's one question. And then I'm thinking about these informal groups like alumni who just come together every so often. They're not a for-profit or nonprofit. they just want to maybe come and tour or, you know, maybe even have a meeting at the school or I'm thinking about those little small groups, you know, the crochet club, you know, they're not making money. So, where do they fall in all of this? Um, I'll answer the the last one first and then go backwards because I'll probably uh have to have Deborah come up about the parking and um your first question or uh a lot of the the groups like the crocheting and the knitting and the grandma's group and you know all of those they are they have been and and have
023been uh really channeled towards the community centers because right now there's because there's no youth attached to that. There's the there's no insurance requirement for that. So, that's the easiest route to go to the city community centers versus the community learning centers. Uh you saw on the slide that insurance is one of the ones that we're uh tackling next in terms of the topic of insurance and digging. We've met with insurance uh representatives. We've had a small committee for a year or so. We're just not at the place of offering a recommendation yet. Um, so we're still going to work on that, but right now because of that insurance requirement, it's best and we've been able to accommodate all of those requests for the small groups that don't have insurance because they're not a real,
024you know, they're not a formal organization uh registered with the state. Um, so that's the first question for parking. You asked parking lots or parking lots and I'm thinking about the parade because we don't need buildings. We just need to line up parking lots. We certainly do schedule through FM FX. We do not charge a rental fee if it is an outside organization. All we ask is that we get a certificate of liability coverage naming the district as additionally insured. And you also are advised that you park at your own risk. So therefore, if I hit your car, it's between you and I. Or if some damage comes to your vehicle while on our property, we're not liable. And we've done that for years. We've done it with, as an example, large groups such as
025Stan Hewitt. We've done it with city use as well. Um, and we recently are working right now, in fact, this upcoming weekend, we will be using this parking lot here for a downtown parking event for a pop-up art show. And they came, it's on our schedule, so we know that they're on there and they've given us the required liability coverage. It's easy to do. And then you asked about green spaces. They're often very much the same. We just want them to tell us that they're going to be and I'll use Betty Jane's very large area um outside it. We just want to know as an example that I sports wants to be there. They put it in our FMX so that we know they're on their site. They also could give us a liability coverage,
026but they don't get any access. So there's no charge for that. We have in that occasion though also advised that particular organization one time that we needed to cancel their event because we were host the church across the street was hosting a funeral and the funeral was going to impact the need to use our parking lot. So we try to do a cooperative effort around our buildings as well. Thank you. You're welcome. I have one followup. And can you speak to the alumni groups? I know you spoke to the small groups but alumni alumni groups we try to have encourage them to be in the schools at a time in which we are actually on site so that that way we can open up the school they uh will fill out just an FMX so
027we know to let the custodian and the um principal know that somebody is touring unless they want to be on on a Saturday or something in which the building is opened and then you know because it's not normally open. We have provided that information to the city, but many times because it's our own alumni, they would prefer for us to do it. And we try to charge just a minimal custodial fee of $38 an hour just to cover help cover some of the cost of the person on site. But we try to be very very mindful of what's needed. One of the sites we recently lost though is many of those events were wanted to be held at the central building which is no longer under our jurisdiction and we have advised them to talk
028to this uh Acronu department that oversees the building. Thank you. You're welcome. I do want to just mention uh one thing just to tag on to Deborah's in the the group A there is a third bullet there. Uh let me make sure I have the wording exactly right. um the program related partnership with agreement with the APS or the city that those are organizations I think the alumni seems to fit into that if that's a you know that's an alumni organization of Book of East of Elllet that is a formal part of that that can also we could look at a partnership type agreement to solidify that versus someone who just says, "Hey, let's get a group of friends together." And you know, alumni, if it's a formal alumni group, which we have incredibly active
029groups in this district, uh we are blessed that way. Um that that can also uh be housed under that third bullet. So, we can look at that more carefully to make sure that's clear that that's an opportunity. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions before I ask a question? Do you have another Harrison? Go ahead, Doc. Reverend Harrison, thank you. Uh, Mr. Chair, h how about a dispute resolution? You know, we we're in between group A and group B. And yeah, so so how do we manage that? Yeah, we right now we have the two points of contact depending on the time of day that you're so we have uh Jeff and Corvia if you're renting in the evening or on the weekends and then uh Deborah Folk's office for the that after school time and
030then some of the complicated events that are going to need the technology and the auditoriums then the school district is involved right now that you go to those two points of contact to dispute any agreement or where you ended up in A or B. But our committee has talked about doing that. Uh uh Michelle Wardell mentioned an audit this year to look at, you know, how are we doing in terms of these new procedures. We don't want to stand in front of you say here's the new procedures and then they don't actually get implemented at you know in the spirit of what we're trying to do here. Um and we have talked about establishing some formal process. We haven't come up with what that would be yet. We'd like to get these going and we'd
031like to do the audit to look at anyone who was rejected. let's make sure we're following the procedure and then maybe we can figure out a way to have a a small group or some way or a form that gets submitted that that gets viewed by a few people. So, we will definitely put that on our next uh list because we promise to be uh back with you. I think Mrs. uh Outley has been probably the biggest champion for access of CLC's over the years. So, I can't imagine that this will be our one and only, you know, time once we get this handbook. We'll want to keep honing and making sure that we get this right. We've been talking about this for too many years. We got to get it right this time. Thank
032you. Um, great to hear that we we'll be looking at the spirit Yeah. of of the agreement. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions? Dr. Mon, you have any questions? Okay. I do I think my one question was answered. I was going to ask about insurance and I think that's already been answered because I know that's a big piece and a lot of organizations didn't have the uh finances to get that insurance. I know it's expensive. Uh so I'm glad we're going to be working on that. And did I hear that churches pay a fee or something? Okay. So they're even though they're considered nonprofit, they still pay a fee. Yeah, the churches are in that group B because they do collect money and you know that's uh uh each Sunday when they're using the
033facility. So it falls within the uh the uh fundraiser fee fee structure collecting funds during the event category. Uh so right now yes the churches would be in that group B. Okay. Right. Cuz because the reason I'm asking because I I think they're considered nonprofit and they're considered nonprofit even though they collect funds that's to operate most of the time they're they're churches. So right the the language in that group B is uh it's all of the renters that are not included in group A. So if you're not a nonprofit or there's an important or there any nonprofit rental from group A where funds are raised during the event and so because there's a collection during the event, they fall into group B. Okay. All right, Reverend Harrison, you got a follow-up question? Yeah, if
034if I may offer that that may need to be broken down to a religious service. Yeah. As opposed to a um you know we're sponsoring a basketball tournament. Yes, we agree with that. We will treat them depending on the event. If it's the church service where they're collecting passing the collection plate, then that would be group B. If the church is sponsoring an after-school program or doing an event in the evening where it's a, you know, a health fair for the community, then they're treated as a nonprofit. Okay. Yeah. I I just think we need to specify that. So you brought that churches to say we we absolutely cannot use it. Yes. Um so yeah, I'm so glad you brought that up because that's an important distinction. Okay. Yes. I that just cuz when I
035heard it made me think about profit versus nonprofit and I know a lot of I know churches are considered nonprofit, right? Okay. Um next, what do we have next on the agenda? I'm sorry, Miss Carter. Thank you. That's all we had on the agenda today. And I didn't know if there was any other considerations for the committee before they bring this back or basically to talk to the board about how to proceed next as it relates to this handbook. Do we need to bring it to a board meeting to present? Yes. Okay. Yes. I I was going to say that I think this because I was looking at the draft. I think the draft should go to all board members in case they have any questions and they can ask questions and we should bring
036it back. And I also thought about this here maybe being part of joint border review. I know we may not be able to do that this time, but in a future uh meeting, we probably should bring this to the joint border review as well. Okay. Um so Mrs. Audrey, thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I don't know if the committee had any conversations around like launching this because it's been so long, 2001, like it needs some type of fanfare around it so that people know things are changing and it's, you know, so I don't know if there's any discussions. I think there should be some type of launch once we get to the final approved draft. I I think we would love that because I think it's important to get this out there. the youth success
037summit uh that Rachel uh Tekk leads there's 70 organizations that come together quarterly so we have a captured audience to be able at least to make sure the youth serving nonprofits get all the details and get the training which is exactly why uh M Harper's been so helpful to get this in front of you because we wanted to make sure we had the summer to get everyone up to speed so that the new rates are all in place uh for the beginning of the school year. So, but I I like the idea of figuring out an event. Um, and we'll definitely put that on the plate and work with Mrs. Outley maybe and figure something out some way to make it. It doesn't have to be a full-blown, you know, huge event, but something because
038this is we for those of us who've been around for a long time, we have been talking about this for years and years. So, it is it's a moment to celebrate. Yes, Reverend Harris, I would just like to uh make sure that city council has put eyes on it because I'm sure as with all of the board members, if something is happening, they're hearing Yeah. the the the uses. So, just kind of we already presented to city council fortunately. So, we've done everything we've needed to do there under uh Deno Buckley Knight and Michelle Wardell's leadership. Okay. Y So, this was our last step for the final approval. Okay, any other questions? I think I think this was good. I I do agree with Mrs. Autri that we should have some big launch because it'll
039let everybody, you know, within the city knows that, hey, this is what how you can use a CLC. Here's a sliding fail fairs and we can also get out. There's different events, you know, a hoop for coupoop was last this past weekend. Maybe could have had someone there to talk about it. There's different events going on this summer. We start in the summertime and there's different events. maybe have a booth or someone there to to talk about these things as well so everybody in the community will get a chance to to know about what's happening. That's great. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Harp. Yes. I was going to ask um is there a need to send it to JBR knowing that the council has already seen it as well or or I don't know whether the
040city pastor I I I know at the last JBR it came up. So if it's if you if you have been to them in between the the the previous one and the one Friday um that's I I I just know it came up at JBR. So it it has come up over the years at the JBR. Um however if you look closely at the agreement the responsibilities of the JBR revolve around the construction and the funds for construction not the operation of the CLC's and so really the the responsibility of the oper day-to-day operations of the CLC's lies within the two bodies and and uh and a committee of citizen oversight not necessarily the JBR. I think that the members of the JBR um will be happy to learn about it. However, um within their
041jurisdiction is not to approve something like this. It is actually in your hands and and I just mention it because we are talking about other things that may impact. Um, so we just want to for my personal I want to be as transparent and cooperative as possible. Um, because access to the buildings was a question leading to another issue that we have to resolve. And so we just want to bring everyone along and and be as transparent and um give everyone an opportunity even though it's the beginning. give give every entity an opportunity um to say hey we we like this we like it but we want everybody formal steps have you know followed in terms of approval because this handbook is yours and you get to you know approve this and sign off but
042then the transparency in terms of celebrating the changes looking at uh any new construction projects how this falls into it the transparency the handbook that's all important uh and We're happy to share that. Fortunately, all the city council got to hear this information, you know, as well. Uh but it would be great now that we're at the final uh finish line that uh they get a finished copy and understand the new fees. Okay. Yes. I think I think that's that's great. And Reverend Harrison said said uh said that really good to to to bring it together. I think when we have not the next meeting but maybe one of our future meetings with joint board review the city and the the school board will be there and we can kind of do a little bit
043of a celebration and we both agree upon what's going on. we have agreed upon this and then we can move this forward. And so everybody in the city knows that we're being transparent, that we um have have everything uh in order and now we can move forward with uh hopefully less um issues we had as we had that we were having before. Uh then we would have hopefully those again. So that may be something we we can talk about down the road. Okay. Any other questions or comments, concerns in reference to um I'm sorry, Madam Superintendent? Thank you. I was just wondering um did you have a proposed deadline that you wanted to get a response back so that we could create a timeline? We did uh formally we would like to have uh whatever
044you all need to do for the full board um which I think uh you know we were trying to get at in terms of is it the next board meeting it goes into the packet and gets approval as quick as quickly as we can at the next meeting or the meeting after that just because then that will give us the chance to do the training over the summer to shift and look at the current rentals that we have on books and make sure they're flipped over to the new structure. That's going to take some logistics. Um, and then everything could just be up and running for the new school year. So, the next board meeting or the board meeting after uh would be the best timeline for us. Okay. And I would say probably not
045the next board meeting, the following because I'd like for all the board members to be able to see this and read it and if they have any questions, we get the answers to them and then we can move on. So maybe by that second time that second meeting then we can have it approved and then we can move forward and you guys can take off from there. So that is that's just what I'm saying but it's about the whole board. So everybody will have to uh answer and reference. That's absolutely fine. It's ready and what you have is the finished copy so we can that sounds great for us, right? Thank you so much. All right. Thank you and thank you all for coming this evening for uh uh presenting and I don't I'm not
046missing anyone am I? Uh, madame superintendent, thank you. Just one final question. Um, because we do have a JBR coming up, would you like us to add it to the agenda? I'm just not sure when the next JBR will be because this one was intentional for us to make Yeah. Yeah. That's a good question. Uh, I was kind of thinking not the next one because it's so quick as this this week and so to get this out this week and talk about maybe the following JBR. I mean, even if it's four or five months down the road, still we can come back and and talk about if we need to. So, you do not need to hear from the JBR before you make a decision as a board. I thought you wanted to make sure
047the city was okay. We could I did want to, but since they've already talked to the city, I'm okay with that. I think if our board members are okay with that. Uh but I just want to make sure our board gets a chance to look at it because they haven't gotten a chance yet. Okay. Any other questions, comments, or concerns be before we we have anyone else to speak? Mr. Dorovia? No. Okay. All right. Um well, we don't have anything else. Thanks to everyone who was watching. Thanks for everyone who who came today. Thank you all for presenting to us today. And with that, uh we don't have any other order of business tonight. We will uh adjourn at this m moment in time at 6:24. Thanks everyone. [Music]