001good evening everyone and welcome to this uh special board meeting or sorry legal policy meeting this Wednesday of February the 20 26 2025 uh we'll start um any question on the minutes from last meeting any questions on the minutes from last meeting nothing on meeting minutes so we will turn it over to miss Carter all right excellent good afternoon everyone hope everybody's having a fantastic Wednesday um we're going to first start off with um number two we have public participation if there's any did you already do that I'm sorry oh well I don't think we have any um three um discussion topics um today we're going to do a first read for special education I'm going to have Miss fry Meer come up this is just a small change with the current policy um that
002we needed to make as relates to the naming of the Department of Education it went from Ohio from OD to Ohio Department of Education and Workforce so Melissa's just going to do a brief over overview about what this policy is and the minor changes made so the Department of Education has updated their operating standards for educating children with disabilities so whenever they go through that I have a copy of it here if you want to look at it it just goes through and is Going Through summary of changes that they're making it's not going to change our policy or anything that we currently have other than renaming the Department of Education to Department of Education and work some of the things that they are changing though is they're removing the word mental retardation from some
003of the language embedded in the operating standards because it's an archaic outdated word then the other thing that they're doing is Ohio has finally adopted the developmental delay identification category outside of preschool so now it can go through the age of nine so that's just some of the things that they are changing within that other than than that everything is how we have been operating here in the district and following policy within the operating operating standards there is through the Department of Education we do have to upload the change to the policy and the acceptance of following the department of education's operating standards for children with disabilities excellent any questions for Miss primer thank you thank you you next we have our attendance policy I'm going have M Dr lash come up and this is
004a first read for the attendance policy just Prov good evening um so uh some of the changes here to the uh board policy 5200 attendance were around um just clarifying some of the language um oh I thought this was showing there okay okay so I think if you look at page two in the um section that says excessive es up there okay so we added some clarifying language um there just to um ensure that the messaging around House Bill 410 with excessive absences and the um consecutive ABS the uh total number of absences in the um month versus over the the course of the year as well as medically excused absence and the number of call offs versus doctor notes that kind of thing that um there was Clarity around there and additionally with the
005religious expression days ensuring that that language was clear to represent um what you'll see in another uh policy that speaks to Religious Education time okay any questions about the attendance policy because then she's going to move into talking about release time for religious instruction Dr Chapman I mean Dr um Jackson yeah no noing wait yeah I'm going to wait to see she may elaborate it when we get into the the religious deception like the parents who allot their kids that go on thinking with life where is that what we're talking about to be talking about okay so I can wait till get there yes and I don't have may I see a copy of that I don't see that one opened up on here thank you okay so for the next policy 5223 uh release
006time for religious instruction um if you recall with the um I'm going to look to attorney kepchar House Bill 8 with the analysis do I have it named right yes um thank you as it spoke to release time for religious instruction we actually already had a policy in existence um and so we already had it we didn't have to create a new policy but we what we did want to ensure is that in our policy that we added um the information in there about the sponsoring entity so when you look at release time for religious instruction um letters a b CDE e you'll see uh what we added there was uh letter B that the sponsoring entity collaborates with the school district to ident identify a time for the course to be offered during the
007school day that language comes directly from um house bille 8 and then we also added um 1 two 3 4 in the fourth paragraph if you will um that starts with the district may require a sponsoring entities instructors and volunteers to undergo criminal records checks in a manner determined by the district um there's we don't have to uh we can and so we wanted to ensure that there was language in there that represented that that said we may require because it's the entity's responsibility um we work in collaboration with the entity on the time for that religious instruction um so but we wanted to cover that with May thank you uh Mr chair I okay that's what I wanted Clarity because the may require but if it's required however the entity is responsible for paying
008for the the background check for whoever is uh facilitating their person that's facilitating the religious instruction or whatever right yes okay I just wanted to make sure because I do think that that's important especially because we talked about previously about people coming to our buildings volunteering taking SCH students on trip and trips and who interact uh with our students so I think regardless of what the the organization is that if they're interfacing with our students and if they're able to to come into our buildings that we know they're clear to based off of what is required for people who work with children that they're clear to do just that does that make sense yes so yeah I think it should be the the entity's responsibility to make sure to ensure to ensure that and be
009able to prove um to send proof that that's been done just like we would you know right so that is either an OD where we can check that they they're fine to have a non tax certification because in a sense they're they're with kids we know all their background stuff is clear to work with kids if they get a non- tax certification something along those lines just for safety reasons thank you thank you we have another question by Reverend Harrison wait okay got itally Trent go ahead he's going wait till you get to the part where it says habitually Trent oh well okay then let's go back to okay member Harrison what's your question okay yeah habitually Trent um first how many hours are in the school day how many hours do that account for
010um so it varies depending on the day Elementary to Middle to high it could be anywhere from 5 and A4 of a day to 6 hours in a in a school day really depends and um okay if you have specific hours yeah so I'm trying to calculate hours into what I'm looking here um I know and that's where we um often times will say when we judge things we judge them typically on a 6-hour day and so we'll say for instance when you look at the habitually Trent the 30 consecutive hours we'll typically say that's about five consecutive days okay give or take depending on what your actual day is okay and with the new house what well it's not new anymore but House Bill 410 even tardies can actually end up calculating being equivalent
011to a day if you end up accumulating that much time so here's my question and I asked it last year about and this is a general scenario I'm kicked off the bus but I'm not ex suspended from school but I my school I I need to take the bus to get to school so that kind of puts us in a situation where we're increasing the likelihood that we're going to have attendance issue and um just to say is there is there how do we mitigate that because it's almost like we're shooting ourselves in the foot and and we can't have them acting out on the bus we we have to address that but we also have to address the attendance and we also have to address the education because they're not in school we're not
012educating them so that's kind of a how do we mitigate that um Pastor Harrison so I I charged Dr lash while they are working on the new handbook updating it that they would be working on that as well okay um because that information would need to be included in the new handbook so the committee is still working on that um I didn't forget or ignore it but um it's something we've actually been kind of throwing around in discussion because it's a it's it's a little bit of a it has a little bit of a nuance to it because you're not suspended from the bus I mean from school but you are suspended from the bus and if you already can't get to school other than the bus now you have to stay home and now
013you're absent and that is an unexcused absence because you I I don't mean to say it that way but you would have elected to stay at home and the child really didn't like to stay at home they couldn't get to school they don't have a way to get there so that is something that we they're they're looking at right now um and and coming up with some scenarios um because that may entail I guess dealing with um our leadership the school leaders teachers because if I'm if I'm missing school what do we do to help this kid and not have it count against them even though they were never suspended from school but it was suspension from the bus so it is something that they are working on right now and I don't know I
014I know we did this before as far as not akan specifically well yeah it was akan my son would uh so he had a chronic illness and so he he had instruction um at home yes when he was in a crisis he he had instruction at home or he's in the hospital do those those hours count in in a case of discipline Is it feasible to give them work and they if they turn the work in then they have hours so yes and I um I Heard um Miss Carter and probably Dr uh Robinson getting ready speak to this too and so in a case where a student is on homebound instruction or home instruction um that kind of thing like that's already inherent in you being on home instruction you have that home instructor
015um that's kind of the the goet between school and you and ensuring your assignments and that's coded a different way um because you're that's you know you've gone through the process for that if you are um and and there's no discipline impact as a result of that if you um have an uh a situation medical condition for which you are abent due to you know medical reasons um then that's where we work with the school nurse to make sure we have that information you've got your doctor's excuses or whatever the case may be there's no discipline behind that is that I was just using that concept not not the just when kids are at home for whatever reason is there a way to get them hours and I guess you guys will figure it out
016but that's just a concern that you know you have to address the discipline you have to address instruction and you have to address absence and um and are we penalized for absence how does how are we I should know that but oh no we we receive a school rating so your school rating you get a grade for um attendance yes it's in the Gap closing measure on the state report card um and I will just take a little quick second to say um for the last few years we have gained um all of our points we get Five Points um for meeting The Chronic absenteeism IND uh impr Improvement indicator so each year we are um to drop our chronic absenteeism by 1.1 percentage points and for the last couple years we have so we've
017gotten our five points thank you you're welcome M Jackson yeah um and just I think as a point a clarification and you guys can chime in we do have a policy regarding even when students are under discipline as far as being able to make up their work like to do the work and so we cuz I felt like that was more what your question like if a student is out for instance because of discipline can they still make up work so the answer is yes they can we have a policy that does support that and it's within the constraints of how the class instruct like they have depending on how many days they missed or why they miss the work they have a certain a lotted time to get with that teacher and to make
018sure that they turn in those assignments so we do have policy support that if students are out for discipline and the only reason I want to address the part if they are out for discipline or some um form which I think getting kicked off the bus with a line for a discipline but when they're missing school I think my problem not my problem when I process this and you know we have footage of our buses so we can see what a child has done on the bus and I would say and I know everyone feels different about these things but in some cases they should be just suspended and it's not because now your actions all these people are trying to delineate especially in on the older kids like middle trying to delineate how to
019figure out to get this child who made a decision to violate a rule to get put off the bus which can be supported or not cuz sometimes it may not be legit and they shouldn't even be suspended off the bus and again we have video footage but often times you have students fighting on the bus a violation of our code of conduct jumping kids on the bus cussing out threatening bus drivers and I'm saying from a firsthand perspective cuz I serve as a prince an administrator of a school and my some of my kids bust and they have infractions and then they get some may get it seems like a slap on the wrist cuz they they get put off the bus and then people are trying to figure out how to get you to
020school and so not trying to show a lack of compassion about that but just like if they're out on suspension they can make up that work um when you're making it's when you make certain decisions in some of these instances it's habitual where the bus driver cuz they have to get transported to school but it becomes an habitual strain where it is some serious things that have happened on school buses like serious and especially when you're doing with the different grades even within our district and so I just want to put that out there as we're considering okay what do we do how do we close gaps when we're trying to cater to uh figuring out how to get some of these kids that are in egregious violations in some cases and in other cases
021H this child shouldn't have been put off the bus your this bus driver been a little extra but we can verify these things because we have access to the footage on the buses I only want to bring that up because I think a lot of times when we try when we make it more convenient it doesn't it does it gives no motivation for family and child to deal with the behavior of the fact that they're being transported and it's consequences for actions a lot of things have happened to where parents have had to pull their kid off the kids off the butt parents who really can't afford to and figure out how they kid going to get to school because situations are not being mitigated properly because you got kids on the bus that feel
022like they they cut a bus driver out throw at the bus driver fight jump a kid on the bus and all these you see so just I want to just put that out there as we're going through these processes and what to do and if this happens then what because it's like we're appeasing a behavior and not considering the whole metric not saying I won't kids kicked out of school but again consistency and expectation you said that expectation when you know if our code of conduct says you cannot threat you can't hit somebody with a lock you can't hit somebody with your shoe upside their ha where they sitting on the bus and then be back in school then how can you do it on a bus and go and but can go back into
023a school building when it's in transport to the same organization it's not like the metro public bus but you're doing this in transport to or from school so I just wanted to put that like factual background information about when kids are getting put off the bus and also with the um caveat that I do understand in some cases and things that I've seen I'm in disagreement the child shouldn't have been put off the bus and it's an issue with the driver but these are all things that if we're doing due diligence and due process we can delineate from and those are different you know situations so yes I'm glad Mr Jackson brought the piece as far as being on to make up their work because I know it is a policy and Reverend Harrison that
024uh kids if they're suspended from school they can there's a way they can get their work and get it made up and get it back to their teachers so they can still get their work in they may have missed the days but they can get their work completed and and I I guess I was speaking to the hours does what do that does the makeup work go to the hours that we need as a okay you know it does not count for attendance but it does count for work they have to be in those seats so the Gap closing that we were talking about for the annual yearly progress that's part of the things to show progress is butts and seats I'm sorry uh students at school and the other problem though that comes with
025this because I think this is a very good question to really unpack and understand is because some administrators and teachers find themselves in a very peculiar situation because annual yearly progress says we need students in seats we need that attendance and so then sometimes teachers have asserted that some kids that should be out of the building like legitimate Cas should be out on suspension possibly are not getting the disciplinary infractions they should because of certain metrics like you know the bodies in the seats because that weighs heavily now this is assertions I haven't done any Deep dive research with this but in education this is some of the the conversations about because it's tied up in our metrics for school Improvement yeah so so I don't yeah I'm I I don't I don't want to
026do the merits of should they be suspended or should they not you know um you know I I I guess I'm just looking at it from a policy place you know if if this happens are we shooting ourselves and you know we need them we we we need them we need the discipline in place we need the attendance in place and we need the instruction so for me um yeah I know the kids do do what they do um and that's why we got you so so just from a perspective of ours how do we keep ourselves on track and not have truancies um in those situations yes we we love meeting the standard and so we we keep our eyes on that as well Pastor Harrison thank you okay M Jackson thank you Mr
027shair I'm going to let this go after this but I promise but CA CUA he but member Harrison asked a good point about trcy how do we keep oursel on track and I know that Dr lash knows and can speak to this because we did a presentation before a year ago about our trcy officers about the things that we were having in place that where people were going engag and trying to see what was going on we talked a little bit about about our uh transient population and how we were working with uh project Rise um with things so we though these are some because when you ask what are we doing I just want to highlight the the things that we have in place cuz like what we are doing and what we're doing
028is with the the treny officers that we had going out I don't know if that's still in practice also I know project rise was making some strides to make sure that families had what they needed so that they can arrive to school so we do have some wrap around services that assist us as well with our treny so I just right this is a good conversation to have but I I I would say also that I'm sure that the district is probably policing all these different aspects because you're going to police the discipline police bus police in seats in school uh police the work getting taken care of so it's a lot of ramif lot of things that are going on but have to be pleased to make sure that we can meet all the
029standards we need I'm sorry go ahead Dr lash that is okay any other questions okay Miss Carter than thank you Dr lash thank you um next we'll have Keith licky come up um we have some policies that we're required to review as relates to school Improvement and uh Keith if you could just talk us through the school Improvement piece yes and I do want to call out I did find one typo on our school Improvement policy 2120 I have in your documentation that it was last reviewed uh June 9th 2023 it was actually last revised June 9th 2003 uh but what I've brought before you are the seven policies that we have that are related to federal funds um and our last feedback from our federal review or actually in preparation for our federal review
030uh the Department of Education and Workforce is asking us now to revise our federal policies every 3 years and so uh what I've kind of learned in the last couple years in this position is normally we wait for niola to push out some recommended updates and that's not happened and so these policies have been left like unrevised or unupdated for quite some years so to be compliant and to have a successful review in March we would like to have this process started for these seven policies to at least be reviewed we started working with other departments back in October and November uh and we actually found that the policies are still good we didn't feel like we needed any additional edits um however you can see from the chart most of them you know have
031are haven't been reviewed for quite some time so the ask really for six of our policies the only one uh policy 6325 procurement um Deb Folk has been working on that and I think she has some changes in the works but that one wasn't a concern for me for our federal review because it was last revised 2023 um and so if you wanted to go through each one we can but we again we weren't recommending any changes because they're all tied back to Essa and federal regulations and they're pretty straight forward you know cut and dry what we have to have in place per Federal guide guidelines around receiving federal dollars so things like you know we'll have a parent involvement plan we'll have a school improvement process that uh let me stop there and
032see I'm new to this so uh thanks for having me to the policy committee uh so I don't know do you want to review each one again we're not looking for changes but we're looking for the board to be able to review these and get an updated date that they are in good standing and meeting um the regulations if they me the regulation and we we we're doing what we're supposed to I don't think we need to go through each one of them it would be waste of all of our actually not waste of our time but a time that we could use to get out of here on time and you can see from the chart we did meet with all of the Departments and the folks that directly relate to this work since
033October uh and then our next our next round will be to work on the administrative guidelines and there might be some more work around the administrative guidelines yeah thank you the policies are pretty any questions before Mr licky leave the podium okay thank you Mr sir thank you mrve all right next we'll have um Todd wamas to discuss the nepotism policy good evening we um I know last uh committee meeting reviewed a draft we have an updated draft took some of the feedback that you had provided with regards to from the last meeting as well to address that and kind of just reformatted um the style of our um policy but starting off often what we'll do with some of our policies with the definitions of who we're referring to as as family members um
034the employment considerations that would be of of uh value that we need to make sure that we're taking it into consideration for the um policy and one of the items under the with regards to came up last time was with regards to the reporting structure and making sure that we're looking at especially where we have if you look down in the section under avoiding favoritism and conflicts of interest under supervision and Reporting structure that if uh the third bullet there if a family member leads a division or department at least two levels of reporting structure must exist exist between the family member and the relative so it's giving some more separation that if um I have a family member who is employed but not directly reporting to me but their supervisor reports to me it
035does could potentially cause a concern in that regard because then I'm evaluating that supervisor of my family member so it's adding some extra uh separation in there as well but um so this is the the draft we' put together yet this is not a first read correct uh no but we would be asking for it to move to a first read for the next meeting and then we um unless you see something in here that else that needs to be added so we add added a that last that third bullet was added and what what else was added I forgot anyway we added a couple more things to what we currently had and like he said it's been restructured I think it reads better than the way it used to look but we think it's
036ready for to move to the first read but we want to discuss that with the committee okay is there any discussion on that um my personal thought is I I think we can move to the first reading and if there's is something that we need to anyone finds uh in here that may we may need to change or we want to discuss we can bring it to the next meeting and that way we can get it done at the next meeting so we can have it ready before we bring it to the uh third reading at the board uh regular meeting is it it okay with everybody who's here want to make sure we're okay okay we'll do that thank you thank you Mr wus thank you Mr wus next um for new business there
037are some niola updates and I'll hand it over to um attorney Haley hi Haley capcher with retell and Andre um so we received our Neola update on for January um at the end of last month um for those of you that U do not know niola is um a company that the district uses and um many school districts use to provide policy development services um they help us to maintain compliance with federal and state law so in this update we have um um there are six legal alerts in 26 policies that are um updated so we will continue to work with the administration internally to um determine which policies will be prioritized to bring forward at our next meeting excellent thank you Haley and that concludes our agenda unless anybody had anything else for new
038business anything for new business nothing okay we'll move forward okay that was ITA reading and so at our next um board meeting it would be our SEC our third and final read for the dress and grooming and then for the uniform repeal did we do uniform last meeting yes okay and it's actually been on the board agenda for um this yeah the first the second read and then now we're it's going to be the third got it final read for this next part meeting all right any questions on that those uh Miss ay thank you Mr chair um I hate that the policy is not attached but I wanted to ask in terms of the the dress code um What I Hear most from community members are are complaints that it's not being enforced and
039are there any provisions in the policy that we can somehow provide um because I get that a lot right I think that would go to the code did you want to that or you want Dr lash to come up good afternoon evening um yes they in the code of the student code of behavior um there is a a conduct code item for address code um so there is the way has been made if you will to um to discipline I think it's a 100 level code I was just up in a code meeting um it's a 100 level code I think your question was more about the enforcement of it so the code is there to be used but are we using it and I think Dr Robinson that's what you were going to respond
040to yeah um so we started off I'm saying we as a district started off I feel like really really well enforcing this um and as time has progressed I'm seeing where and I've I've been monitoring it and talking with the executive directors for school leadership especially when I get concerns from parents even students um have voiced in terms of some of the things that they see in their school and so that's that's been being addressed with their principles because that has to be the person who's enforcing it um I can't enforce it from here but I can enforce the fact that if the principal is not enforcing it and we can address that with the principal to put Provisions in place to make sure that they are doing that but that's that has to be
041something that we need the help of every teacher and every administrator in that building every adult even the custodians it doesn't matter to say Hey you know that you can't wear this or you or you can't do that you know but that's where the that's where the issue comes in started off very well um and you see in certain certain instances where it kind of has kind of gone to the Wayside and we have to go back in and reinforce again and then they'll get back on it and then they'll you know but that has to be cons they have to have consistency in following it um because if not then yes when you go into given day in any particular school not just one or two um um they they might be wearing things
042that they shouldn't and that has again be what is enforced through the the the building leadership um but we do need the help of every adult in that building to encourage kids to you know do what they're supposed to do um they can tie things to PBIS rewarding kids who um you know are doing the great things and and those that are not then that's why you're not being rewarded right but that again has to be what the principle of those schools and so when I get concerns hear them whether it's from students or from Community people um I'm in the grocery store sometimes and I'll hear people say you know those kids are not and I say absolutely you're you're you're probably correct and you know I I find out which school and then
043I'll reach out to the supervisor to address that with the uh principal but we do need to do a better job collectively with the enforcement and the consistency of enforcing it and I think it's a it's a like you said it's going to it's a village right so it's a homeschool connection piece and so I think we have to continuously reiterate this with our families as relates to we need your help too to communicate the same message and we need you to be on the same page that we're on so that the student knows that we're all in this together to see them to be successful and we have um help me Dr Lash is it three or how many correspondents have we sent I sent a few since the summer dress code yeah up
044until December it was either two or three I mean we've been sending mail outs and pushing things out reminding parents of what they can and cannot wear um in the summer packet all of that information was in there so again we started off strong um and then depending upon which leader in which school um we saw start dying off we started pushing a little more you know then because we actually had some parents um and thank goodness for our parents that uh brought it to my attention to say hey I'm making sure my child and I appreciate that uh because we that's what we need we need more we need it to be more of a community enforcement you know to say if it's the lady on the on the the grandom on the street
045hey I see you wearing you're not supposed to be wearing that going to school right but we need the help of everybody to enforce it but again it's it's the consistency of the enforcement that I've been working with the the directors on with their their um with their leaders thank you for that and I just I just wanted it to be said out loud because I I do get it a lot and I I let them know that there is an existing policy as a board member I can't enforce it um I've even suggested that that could potentially be the work of of your parent groups uh some type of volunteer committee to help you know with that so I'm just saying it again and just uh asking parents to support their their building leadership
046in those areas thank you thank you for that okay we miss Jackson president Jackson I'm sorry I'm Miss Jackson hey Carla you know I go all right so very uh quickly to your point and I was saying as um Miss Carter was talking everything that everyone says we know practically it sounds good right we talk about Village commitment parents but we have a lot of children in our district that are parenting themselves and their younger siblings the parents are not buying nor controlling what they wear although we have a population that are and so I think the best practices and good practices is what the superintendent has spoke to from a district level we talk about high level trinkling down the notices the um the newsletters the information the summer packet all that stuff but
047we cannot control anything that appear parent does or doesn't do true we can control our response and what our policy speaks to in enforcing our policy as I'm on my fourth last year of this board I came on into this with parents I have not forgot the parents who went authenticity set up here at this Podium becoming emotional and it wasn't fake they wern't trying to push an agenda there were some authentic people that came talking about school violence and what it was doing to their child how their child felt cell phones right all this when we it blew my mind that we had an existing cell phone policy it blew my mind that when I went to certain teachers classroom the students already knew what time it was and they was putting their phones
048with no hesitation not cussing a teacher out in a basket but then I had another teacher very professional someone I respect phenomenal educator at East High School history teacher Miss TR who said to me and I've said this before on the M she said have you ever had a child somebody cuss you out when you ask them for their phone I said oh no cuz I put kids out but I'm in a different position like because the expectation when you have a certain expectations children rise to the expectation but what you expect you inspect and you enforce right so I think really when we're talking about um building leadership cuz now we're talking about school culture and climate because there are some schools in our district bonnets are regular kids walk past you with Bonnets
049and you see administrator walk past them they don't say nothing then you have some schools you don't see one B it you have other schools where they're in fo pajamas with flipflops and this is we're supposed to be grooming them the expectation that we're preparing you for some type of level professionalism whatever that whatever that is we know it's not pajamas unless that's your brand and you're doing an infomercial I'm saying right so it really is the building and um like the principal um sorry the superintendent already said and uh teachers but my I never forget when Miss Trine said that to me because if a teacher is not empowered in the fact that if they stand on policy and there's not an action step that happens when they're standing on policy and telling a
050child we don't wear pajamas to school now we have resource closet clothes things that we can provide for student so we don't have to get into the social economic every child doesn't have clothing because we have united we have a lot of Community Partners organizations and even some parent groups that will provide these things for these children so again I just want to stress the fact of accountability and expectation because what I feel is that in some of our schools it's a lower expectation and so some students might walk past and we and it it may be now this is my assumption you see that it may be the thought well they don't know better or they don't have but I look at them and see cuz I'm from their Community you have on red
051bottoms you have you have on Christian luitton shoes you wearing that Bond and those bundles are like $600 bundles so it's not that you don't have I'm going to give you the expectation from me take off the binding and your hair cuute girl and then we keep moving and it's some so it we have to really get to honing in to making sure everyone is empowered that what is the action step if a teacher does say something to the child and the child flip out on the teacher and then it's back in that teacher's classroom I know I might get a lot of flack from my comments I make today but this is the reality and people need to be real with stuff because all this cushie Co and making everything it's an excuse for
052everything and every action these children do without any consequences in the real world and understanding you can't come here and just be any kind of way because I'm telling you if you go through all our buildings and I don't want to call them out it's not the same kids ain't wearing Bonnets and flipflops at some of these buildings it goes there it's a profession the standard is here and you can see it and then you go to others and it's like they don't expect you to do anything different you got the little twist rollers in here so I just want to talk about building culture and climate and how what that looks like so as y'all unpacking like yeah we want a whole village and yeah we want to tell administrators and we want teachers
053to feel empowered but I know in a lot of cases teachers have stated to me when I'm in buildings that when they say the littlest things to students or students do certain things they end up right back in their classroom so what is that speaking to as far as what we think about our policies and what we really want to enforce so that's one of the considerations that I want us to be very real about cuz yes we have the policies we had a cell phone policy too and then spent thousands of dollars on Yonder bags and it wasn't a new policy it's been in existence but it was not being afor inforce so it was pointless and so we need to be very intentional at what is the process SL consequence and are we
054consistently doing that when these things are happening and I'm I'm just going to leave that there thank you yes anybody else before I say anything what Pastor Harris I I I I agree with you but I think the policies are the policies and for me the enforcement is the districts because there should be a standard across um the district um and I think a good policy is a good policy and the then not to passor Buck but I think that's what we do is we create good policies and hold people accountable to the policies and that's that's the that's the tough part for me uh again we go back to the attendance we want kids in the classroom we need them in the classroom but we need them in the classroom doing the right thing
055um and how how do you how do you make that happen but if if I'm a teacher and six teachers this is me this is not speaking to the policy but if I'm one teacher and six teachers are letting something happen then where where am I at in in saying no um so I I think it is parents I think it is it still has to be the Village um but why do we allow this in this school and something else in a different school so is it the building or is it the administration is it the policy or or is it everything and I think it's everything yes M Jackson the policies are sound the cell phone policy solid policy it was not enforced and when I'm telling I am telling you this from
056a from a front row seat not from theoretical knowledge what I think I'm talking about what I see play out in real life as an educator for 20 years is if the parent has no involvement most kids spend spend more time in a school building than they do with their parents and whether people want to believe and get with that or not some teachers spend more time and know have more knowledge and I'm not saying this is right this is the society the culture and climate we're in and it's not always because parents are bad but you got some parents working jobs doing swing shift they got the older kids dropping it off they living right and so that's why you have some excellent teachers in the district that can speak to real issues of
057what's happening with kids now the reason why I say policy isound because I looked over I remember the cell phone I'm like this a this a good policy and if it's one teacher that's doing the right thing so teacher we we're going to say we're empowering students but because five of your colleagues are piss poor you going to be piss poor cuz Excellence looks different so I'm telling you like breeds like and what you feed is what grow I tell you the high performing teachers in they Circle I bet you the other teachers are high performing I bet you those are the teachers like when I went over to Sam Salem that's showing when they're trying to show the life process they got eggs growing in these things and trying to show how the egg
058become a chicken they're doing life applications for their kids to see out Excellence looks different you can't bootle that so the point is Administration has to be consistent with the enforcement because if I'm a the the teachers get burned out the stress comes in when I am an excellent teacher I can mitigate and manage discipline from my classroom but when I'm trying to have a cultural and make sure I enforce it throughout the building so I see this person who's not necessarily my class cuz I may teach 10th grade history and I tell you you shouldn't have those pajamas Amazon and you say something slick and I report it to the administrator and that same kid is back walking down the hall the next day that's the problem and so I think at the end
059of the day then what is the teachers then recourse this is where that artment has to come in like hey I report this to the administrator and this kid is back in school I don't care if everybody else on this right side of this hallway do whatever because I'm excellent Excellence looks different and they know what Mr Harrison Mr Alexander Miss A expectations is that's why I can give you the example of the teacher and if teachers watching this they know what I'm talking about it's a te he was a male they put it in a basket before Yonder bags and one of our Urban school he they dropped it they had no problem they said nothing when they left out they picked up their phones he was able to do it cuz the standard
060never was lowered and and it was a level of mutual trust and respect I'm not talking to you crazy but come on I need y'all to do this relationship building right right Humanity understanding the students aren't beneath you but relation relationally we understand as Educators teachers students will not learn from people they believe don't like them nor respect them it's a block there so it's it's those Dynamics so I know people want to say parents and that would be in a perfect world that would be great but I'm saying when your reality is I am my parent that's why when you try to talk to me like I'm a child in a parent voice when I am the parent when I'm paying light bills when I'm getting my siblings up and dropping them off this
061is this like this is not stuff I'm making up in my head like I'm talking about a specific student that book though right now when this is your reality and this teacher coming and talking to me girl I ain't got right but how do we curve that absolutely and I think I think everybody is correct and I think there's just layers and I think parents do play a part when they are aart and when they are a part we need them to play their part right and so there's layers to it from prek all the way up till to high school as it relates to um how we make sure that we're enforcing our expectations and our school rules and making sure that we're doing our PBIS and being consistent because I do believe consistency
062breeds compliance and but it's going to take everyone in the building to be on the same page because I may act right in your classroom but I know I don't have to in your classroom so it's going to take everybody to make sure that we're doing what we need to do so that the child can be successful because they know they know who they can do what with when they're in the different classrooms so this was a wonderful wonderful discussion it is a good discussion and I'm not going to say anything been said uh any other questions we have for for uh those who are here to answer questions for us in administration nothing once nothing twice okay well hey thanks everyone who's watching thanks for all who are here uh thanks everyone who attended
063the meeting my fellow board members and others uh and we will see you at our next uh meeting thank you and have a good evening e