001Turn. This regular meeting of the Aurora Board of Education is called to order. Please rise for the pledge. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the stands one indivisible. Mr. Please call the role. Mrs. Mahalis here. Mrs. Click here. Mr. Solski here. Mr. Aim here. Mrs. Schneider here. All right. We begin tonight's meeting with special reports and recognitions. Tonight we have two students with us from the high school who are being recognized as Rotary students of the month. They are Tomasco and Mason Toronto. May I have a motion for approval? So moved. Second. Mr. Bison, please call the RO. Mrs. Cl. Yes. Mr. Sabolski. Yes. Mrs. Mahales. Yes. Mr. Aim. Yes. And Mrs. Schneider. Yes. All right. Students, would you please come forward and I'll give you your [Applause]
002certificates. Congratulations. We're going to start tonight. said, "Mason is the ultimate learner with an energetic personality. He's ready for the challenge of the toughest classes and is willing to work very hard to succeed. This doesn't come at the expense of others. He's always happy to check in on his fellow classmates with a smile, encouraging words, offering help. AP stat teacher, Mr. Bazowski said, Jason was one of my statisticians last year without questions. He was the lone junior in a class of seniors and yet was probably the goto guy for class. I knew that if the class metaphorically got stuck in the ditch, he'd be able to get us out. work ethic was phenomenal. On top of his clear academic excellence, the kid is just an allound good. He still stops to say hello from time
003to time and that simple gesture is worth it. Mason's counselor said Mason's kindness and humility shine through everything he does. He is deeply committed to helping others and serving his community. As the leader of his youth ministry, he describes himself as a spiritual role model and leader helping kids in our community and coordinating with ministries to plays a significant role in his life and motivates his selflessness and service to others. And Mr. Math teacher said he never answer until he attains correct results and ensures his understanding. He's always a great sense of humor. is generous once arriving to a review session with enough for all students in attendance. Ladies and gentlemen, it's my pleasure to welcome you for members and board of education for this award. I'd also like to thank my mom, dad, and
004grand for being here today. As my senior year comes to a close, this award has given me the opportunity to reflect on my high school and learn more about I was amazed not only for local especially better. These are just a few things including many hours service. When I first started all my changed and loved my person after we blessed administrator teachers not only classology class all these teachers left but Mic changed my life for the better. I would say he taught us more than just us and he showed it every day by example with a smile on his face not for ours. I recently leave my university plan and I later hope to raise a big family after college. I want to again express my gratitude to the board of education for allowing me
005to speak for this award. Thank you all for teachers. is a student with an infectious personality. She has filled my classroom with countless smiles and substantial amount of laughter. She also approaches life and she's a great example of resilience in our student body. There's nothing that can I truly honor to have been her teacher and I value each conversation in class as well as in the lunchroom. She is authentic and unapologetically herself and so of this teacher said all great she's not afraid to take on challenges for example trying to defend 30 plus shots a game as a goalie for her lacrosse team or working through a very rigorous AP stats curriculum she always positive attitude of times. On top of all that, I think she's my goal at ESPN. Mrs. Foster said the interact
006club secretary with over 220 members. She did a great job over 2,000 service hours for our members. She spends countless hours documenting other students volunteer hours and attendance at meetings. Without her particular notes, it would be challenging for me to write students. She spent a Saturday and sports quietly teacher Mrs. When I reflect on what distinguishes her students, her internal strength in knowing who she is, her unwellectual strength in the classroom as she works to grow as a leader and most importantly her strength as a demonstration. members of I cannot be more honest. nomination. and I sorry basically my I can't wait to It would be impressive. As I was science research Washington, Thank you for Thank you students. We'll take a minute for pictures. again. Thank you so much and coming and sharing about
007yourselves tonight and families if you'd like to leave anytime you plan to do that. Okay, moving on. No one sign up for a public comment. So we will move to the approval of minutes. Uh we had two special meetings in March, March 6th and March 10th and then our regular meeting on March 17th. May I have a motion please to approve the minutes? Moved. Are there any comments or additions? Questions. All right. Mr. Vison, please call the RO. Uh Mrs. Schneder. Yes. Mrs. Click. Yes. Mr. Sabolski? Yes. Mrs. Mahales. Yes. Mr. Akum. Yes. All right. Minutes are approved as written and next we will move to the superintendent and assistant superintendent reports. All right. Thank you. I have the opportunity to open things up and give you a couple updates. Uh first the uh annual
008fill a bag and feed a family community event that the schools participate in each year will be taking place this weekend. Uh record number of our families and u individuals have been visiting our local food bank this year. So now more than ever there is that need. So this is another example of the many school community connections we've nurtured as several of our school groups such as interact club and service learning along with some of the sports teams like football and soccer help with this particular event. So it's a great event. Uh we also have been sharing with the community that less than one week from today on May 6, 2025 uh we'll as people travel to the pools they'll see the Aurora City School District has placed a 5.61 renewal operating levy on the
009ballot. Uh we are reminding folks that the levy has been renewed by the community six times prior to being first being placed in the ballot in 1990. Even though the school district receives the same amount of money as it did in 1990, uh the levy actually cost taxpayers a little bit less because uh when it was first approved because there are now more houses in Aurora to spread the cost over. So these funds are nonetheless important as they do go towards the day-to-day operations of the school. And because the levy is a renewal, uh this means that there will be not an an increase in taxes. So, we're getting the word out from there. So, speaking of funding schools, I wanted to bring something to the board and the community's attention that I suspect might
010not be on the on the radar. The the Ohio legislators are currently discussing the next bianium budget in Columbus and several items have a potential uh to uh negatively affect the Aurora City Schools. So, as you know, the Royal City Schools currently receives only about 18.6% 6% of its revenue from the state. And this puts a heavy burden on our community in the form of property taxes and demonstrates why the way Ohio schools are funded has been ruled unconstitutional by the Ohio Supreme Court. Now, unfortunately, the current proposal from the Ohio House of Representatives removes the bipartisan fair school funding plan that was designed to allow schools to be funded in line with the state constitution expectations. Right. So in the house version the budget uh of the budget there schools is slated to receive
011an increase of $56,000 from the state in 202526 which is about a 1.1% increase. Um and then 28,000 in in the next year in 2627 and that equates to a little over a half a percent increase. So I'd like to point out that neither of these state supports come close to keeping up with inflation but it they'll tell you that it is an increase in funding. So, at the same time, the House is putting a 30% carryover cap in place that limits the amount of funds public schools can have set aside for future projects and uh needs. Now, because we run such a tight budget in the Aurora, thanks to to Bill's guidance, we currently have a 29% carryover balance, which means we will not have funds taken away by the state for next year.
012However, we are projected to be over that 30% cap for the following year. So, this means that we'll have funds previously collected and approved by the community removed from the school district. Uh, this will f focus uh force Aurora and other school districts to choose between cutting programs and staff or going back to the community more often to ask for our financial support in the form of a school levy. So, that is another concern. The last concern uh we have in the in the budget is that the funding for public uh for public school kids who make up close to 90% of the children in Ohio was only increased in this bill by 226 million uh dollars relative to public funds set aside for universal school vouchers that will go towards 10% of Ohio students
013who attend private schools. Uh which was increased to approximately $500 million in the in the House budget. increased by $500 million in a house budget. Actually, it's going to be over $1 billion that are set aside for that. So, we are making sure that our state representative Steve Demetrio and state senator Christina Rogner are aware of how the changes in Columbus are impacting the kids in Aurora. Earlier in the year, Paul Milsatic, Mike Hayes, and I shared many of these concerns with Representative Demetrio after he accepted our invitation to visit Aurora High School. Um, and last week I along with a group of superintendents and treasurers from Portage County met with Senator Rogner. Now, this is not the end of the budget process. Once the House approves the budget recommendations, it moves to the Senate
014where more changes and recommendations will be made. Then following the Senate recommendations, uh, comes the conference committee where legislators from the House and Senate meet to make final decisions. And then the budget goes back to the governor for a final line item review and then his signature. So, the budget will be set to come out uh July 1, 2025. So, we will continue in the meantime to advocate for young people attending the Roar City Schools in the form of letters, emails, and phone calls. Uh but to be honest, our legislators are tired of hearing from superintendents like me. Uh but they will listen if they hear from our families. So, I have also encouraged folks in the community to consider reaching out to Representative Demetrio and Senator Rogner to also share their their thoughts and
015concerns about the budget. any questions in relation to the budget or any of the other things I've mentioned? No, but we appreciate your efforts in this regard very much. Thank you. The one thing um there are a lot of superintendents and school districts that are uh sending the messages out as well because it is something of a concern for public education. So hopefully the word will be out and heard. Okay, that completes my part portion of the reports. Thank you. Okay. Um I will take the next portion of the reports um and then pass it off to Mrs. Nisen for the laten building goals. So um as the board knows uh sometimes in my role um I have reports that are flexible and other reports are sort of uh annual or seasonal uh you know
016depending on things that uh just are important to uh report back about. And this is sort of one of those seasonal or annual ones which is about testing season. So, wanted to give the board an update of what's going on in in March, April, and May. Um, with that, uh, obligation. Um, I like to always give the disclaimer. Uh, we know what we're all about in this district. We know we're about Aurora learners future ready and and nurturing those competencies, uh, in the process of learning. Uh, but we also expect while doing that that we will get uh, positive outcomes um, with that approach on on these assessments. So, more will be on that later in terms of how things go. But I do want to talk about um sort of the strain of testing
017season uh each year. It is uh quite honestly it's a monster in terms of everything that goes on. And so I just want to talk to you about what's going on in all the different buildings, all the different people involved um and just sort of uh some of those updates. So um we'll start out with you can see up on the slides there some of the things that have been going on actually even before March. Um those are some of the required assessments. So, Kogat in Iowa, um that is really a gifted obligation. That's Becky Quinn, our new gift gifted coordinator. Um doing testing at second grade and fifth grade, uh which are required bands for gifted testing. Um so, Becky's done a great job with that, working with the principles and working with the
018teachers to make sure, uh that was completed. We also have a wellpa testing which is for our e students in terms of assessing um if they need uh plans or potentially uh exiting uh English learn language learner plans. Um so that's Liz Flannery uh and Stacy Levy also working uh with teachers to to complete those assessments. We also have uh al alternative assessments and alternative oelpa and that'd be Mr. Magalionico, Mr. Torres, all the uh special education students involved with that process. uh throughout the district. Um and then now we are about another week or so in the OST uh testing process. OST EOC, you know, pick take your pick. We still have a lot of people who call them air assessments and as I've stated that was an old vendor. They're no longer air
019assessments. So they are OSTs or EOCC's. So that um that is is obviously um all you know Leighton Harmon and the high school um and that's that's obviously a huge um a huge testing uh obligation. Uh I'll talk more about that in a moment. And then uh finishing with advanced placement uh and also talk about that as a featured assessment and you know obviously that's that's at the high school. Um and we have a ton of students uh involved with that. So just a little bit on the OST assessments. I um know hopefully some of this is a reminder um bless you. Some of this is a reminder to our to our board and those. But I do want to just uh bring it up that um with the OSTs that starts in grade three
020uh at Leighton, then continues through um Harmon and then the high school. And you can see up there uh English and math except for we add science in fifth and eth. And then obviously we have our OSTs at the high school. Uh and those are listed below. Um just a quick uh a reminder that uh for students to graduate they need to have a competency score which is actually different from passage um in ELA 2 and algebra 1. They also use some of those other assessments to earn their seals. You know they have to have a couple of seals as part of graduation. And a there's probably about half or so of our students each year who do not take uh the government and US history assessments because they take AP US government or AP
021US history and and earn it uh through that way and those are actually included in our performance index now as well. So that is um you know quite uh quite the testing season going on there. And one thing about APs but also the OSTs it's really gotten gotten more complicated recently. We do have um as I think you know more students on 504s and IEPs and there's just um there's an enhanced obligation in terms of small group assessment one-on-one with some of those accommodations. So it is it is a a large undertaking as it is uh but that has made it more complicated in terms of just every nook and cranny and space and staff member and technology available just to try to make this happen. So, um I do want to give a shout
022out to all those people, but it is is definitely a large undertaking and getting seemingly more complicated by the year. Um moving on to uh AP exams. So, I keep on saying that each year we can't continue to have that many uh classes and that many students taking AP exams. However, somehow we've managed to actually give over a thousand assessments again uh or I guess for the first time at the at the high school. So uh really just um amazing if you think about uh 27 classes a thousand students u taking or excuse me a thousand tests given remember we only have about you know 960 students so any I've always said anything over that sort of one to one ratio is just really impressive. So it's not always going to be like that. Sometimes
023we have smaller classes, AP music theory for example, that rotates sort of, you know, every other year, but um a really monster year for the APs and you can see from May 5th to May um is that 16th every single day in the morning and afternoon. So that's also, you know, counselors, we bring in subs and specific staff members or trade just just so we can give those assessments. But it is amazing that that many students took on those challenges, grew in those courses, you know, took on that challenge. Uh so really proud of of them and and all the staff members. And then a final note, I I definitely want to make sure I say this publicly and on video and for everyone. I you know, obviously I know I am the district testing
024coordinator. Uh and that's, you know, one of my obligations. However, um couldn't do it with all those people up on the screen there. The principles are amazing. Uh we have counselors involved, secretaries, all the teachers, proctoring, we have pared educators taking students, we have MTSS coordinators, we hire subs, our tech staff has been awesome. It's it's never really been smoother in terms of the Wi-Fi and the devices. So, knock on wood, it's it's gone very smoothly this year. We haven't even had any state vendor glitches, which is always a nice thing. Um so, just appreciative of of all the hard work and all the people um who have gotten, you know, so good at this process and it's like a well machine. So, I just want to thank all of them for for everything they
025do and and say that in front of the board, too, so you understand that that this is a truly a team effort. So, um any questions on all things testing or anything in the report before I turn it over to Michelle? I just want to thank you for your oversight on the testing and the hiring and everything you're doing. And I know that in your preparation to become superintendent and your um desire to hit the ground running on day one along with completing all your curriculum director, you've been double timing it and making some sacrifices with your family. So, we appreciate everything you're doing. Thank you. I appreciate you. And Mike, I know that you are um trying to find that balance between handing over the reigns and still being responsible. And so, we appreciate
026you, too. I know I sometimes say, "Who do I call? Do I call Thank you, Pam." Okay, Michelle, do you want to I'll bring the clicker over to you. Thank you. Everything. yourself. Connection So child support also means that support. really basically. students. We also How we're How last? 90% members of our team. And then last time really So this is something We also really excited about respons. that also partnerships We also have So Just modeling. We also have this year to instruction. Of course, Are you We wanted to know You also work very well We Thank you. everything you do in the way that you care and nurture the children and prepare them for middle school for fifth graders. Thank you. So, does that conclude your reports? Correct. We're all set. Yes. Okay. Thank
027you, Mr. Bison. Thank you, Mrs. Mahales. Uh this evening I have three resolutions for your consideration. We'll start off with the general fund financial report. Uh this being for March of 2025. And in March, our revenues exceeded expenditures by approximately $4.7 million, which will increase our general fund cash balance to about 23.4 million uh nine months into the fiscal year. Uh in March, our revenues were about 33% lower than projected and expenditures about 2.87% greater. Uh the big thing on the revenue side, we got the balance of our first half 2024 real estate receipts from Portage County uh to the tune of about $7.2 million and an additional um public util tangible personal property taxes for public utilities of a little over a million dollars. Um the receipts were about 4.3 million less than projected.
028However, if you remember last month uh from the tax advances, we received about 4.6 million more than what was projected. So so basically they uh things have evened out. Uh we'll receive our Summit County settlement uh in the month of April which would conclude our tax receipts for uh this fiscal year. Uh, also in the revenues, all other operating revenues include $103,750 in all day kindergarten tuition for next school year. Uh, along with another $33,752 in regular education tuition for non-resident students and another 35,458,000 for uh special education uh tuition for non-resident students. And these all come through our state foundation. And by and large, these students are um court place students uh that are in in our district. And so everything just moves through the foundation. Uh expenditure side. Uh just of note, the
029other objects includes $354,000 in tax collection fees from the Portage County auditor. So that's their cost obviously and in going through and collecting the delinquent taxes, processing all the tax bills and and obviously getting the money to the districts. So thus far for the fiscal year revenues are about 205,000 greater than projected and expenditures about 270,000 less or also excuse me greater than uh projected which gives us an unfavorable v variance of about $65,000 nine months into the fiscal year. So, by and large, we're pretty much right on projection for for the year. And that is exhibit D1. Okay. D1 is a resolution to approve financial statements and reports. May I have a motion, please? Second. Are there any comments or questions for Mr. Bison? Right. Please call the RO. Uh, Mrs. Mahos. Yes. Mr.
030Akim, yes. Mrs. Click, yes. Mrs. Schneider, yes. And Mr. Sabolski, yes. Um, exhibit D2 and this is a resolution to accept a audit report. Uh, this is from July 1, 2023 through June 30, 2024. And um, we received a modified opinion um, audit for the year, which is, you know, the best audit that you could get. So, no issues uh, to to speak of. So, you know, great audit for the district and and really um what it means that our financial statements are presented fairly in all material aspects uh showing the financial position of the school district. Uh thanks obviously go to uh my staff Diane Eie Patrasa Heather Stask and along with um the administrators Mr. Roberto Dr. Milsatic all the uh uh different high school principles Mr. Mico Mr. P who is here,
031Mr. Arquilla in the back and all of the secretaries because all all of the work of this processing is is a team effort again and a bunch of different people are involved in making sure things are processed properly and accounted for properly. So that is exhibit D2. All right, a resolution to accept that audit report. May I have a motion? Moved. Chair Seconds. Any comments or questions? Congratulations. Thank you. Please call the RO. Uh, Mrs. Mahales? Yes. Mrs. Schneider? Yes. Mrs. Click? Yes. Mr. Aim? Yes. Mr. Sabolski? Yes. And finally, we have exhibit D3 and this is a Ven and now. And this is for LLA therapy in the amount of $7,819. Uh, they provide special education services. Uh, again, the the bill came before a purchase order was processed. we have dealt with them
032and and uh that just one kind of fell through the cracks I guess and uh this is actually paid for out of our idea funds. So federal dollars pay for this particular u service that we received. All right. Exhibit D3, a resolution to approve the then and now statement. May I have a motion? Second. Any comments or questions? Mr. Bson, please call the RO. Mr. Schneider, yes. Mrs. Mahalis, yes. Mr. Sabolski, yes. Mr. Achim, yes. And Mrs. Click, yes. All financial statements and reports are approved. That concludes my report. Okay. Thank you. Moving on to new business, we have exhibit E1A, a resolution to accept gifts and contributions. Um, we have I don't know, is it J? Did you say the letters J AQ or Cafe? Having donated $100 toward the gymnastic program and JNS
033Packaging donated $2500 to the Aurora baseball program. May I have a motion, please? Second. We thank both of those um groups of people for their donations. Mr. Wall, please call the RO. Mrs. Click, yes. Mr. Achim, yes. Mrs. Mahalis, yes. Mrs. Schneider, yes. Mr. Yes. All right. Without objection, I will take the uh the next 15 personnel items together. I'll read through them and then I'll get a motion in a second. Okay. Exhibit E1 B1 is a resolution to accept resignations and retirements. Exhibit E1B2 is a resolution to approve pay and employ long-term substitute teachers for the school year. Exhibit E1 B3 is a resolution to unrenewed contracts. Exhibit E1B4 is a resolution to approve the introductory appointment of support staff. Exhibit E1B5 is a resolution to award teachers a continuing contract status. Exhibit E1B6
034is a resolution to award teachers a one-year limited contract. Exhibit E1B7, a resolution to award teachers a two-year limited contract. Exhibit E1B8 is a resolution to Notice of expiration of supplemental and extended time contracts. Exhibit E1B9 is a resolution to employ specialists for next school year. Exhibit E1B10 is a resolution to approve the leave a leave of absence requests. Exhibit B1B11 is a resolution to award summer supplemental contracts. Exhibit E1 B12 is a resolution to award supplemental activity contracts to nond district personnel. Exhibit E1B13 is a resolution to employ event staff worker. Exhibit E1B14 is a resolution to employ support staff substitutes for this school year. And exhibit E1B15 is a resolution to award teachers a one-year limited contract. May I have a motion for approval? Second. Are there any comments or questions? Mr. Bison,
035please call the RO. Mrs. Schneider, yes. Mrs. Mahalis, yes. Mr. Aim, yes. Mrs. Click, yes. Mr. Sabolski, yes. Resolutions are approved. Next, we have exhibit E1B16, which is a resolution to award a new administrator contract to Ashley Pachalooki. May I have a motion for approval, please? Move. Second. Mr. Bison, please call the RO. Mrs. Schneider, yes. Mrs. Mahalis, yes. Mrs. Click, yes. Mr. Sabolski, yes. Mr. Akum, yes. Right. Well, welcome Ashley. Um, I watched your AI generated appreciation video, was very impressed with it. Um, and it seems judging from that that you are clearly in line with our vision and our goals. So, we welcome you and are excited to see what you're doing. Would you like to say anything? Yeah. That way you administrative teams together. I am very excited that embody this privilege.
036It is an honor to love, serve, protect, and All right. Exhibit E1B B17 is a resolution to terminate the employment of support staff one support staff member. May I have a motion? So moved. Mr. Please call the role. Mrs. Schneider, yes. Mrs. Mahalis, yes. Mr. Akum, yes. Mrs. Click, yes. Mr. Solski. Yes. Right. That concludes our personnel resolutions. Next, we have exhibit E1C, which is a resolution to approve a new policy DJC bidding requirements. May I have a motion for approval? Move. Second. All right. I ask Mr. Roberto to please talk a little bit about it. Sure. As a quick reminder, we had a chance to see this a little bit and board had a chance to review, but basically the state made some changes that allowed uh school districts to increase the amount of
037uh funds that they could spend uh prior to having approval andor getting multiple from the board or getting multiple uh bids from up to $75,000. Now, we don't go that high in the district. Uh ours was around $25,000 and this has this go up relatively the same amount up to $50,000 um where we would uh um anything more than that we would come to the board for approval but we will be getting bids on multiple multiple bids on on those purchases from there. That was the first part of this. And then you see a lot of green which again green in the resolution means this is new stuff. This is not really new to our board policies, but what we did is um we kind of uh put all of pieces parts from different parts
038of our policy in one section when it it comes to bidding requirements. So, this will all be on one policy now. That will be a little bit easier for people to find and follow. Okay. Are there any questions? Right. Mr. Bison, please call the role. Mrs. Mahalis, yes. Mrs. Schneider, yes. Mrs. Click, yes. Mr. Aim, yes. Mr. Solski. Yes. Resolution approved. Exhibit E1D is a resolution endorsing the observance of staff appreciation week, which is May 5th through the 9th. May I have a motion, please? Move. Any comments? Um, I'll just I won't read I think I read through it last year. I won't do that this year. Suffice it to say that the board is very appreciative of our entire staff, administrative staff, teaching staff, and um support staff. We know that it takes everybody
039doing their job to make it run efficiently, and we appreciate everyone for the work they do, and it's good that we can choose this week for the community to be able to join in with their appreciation. So, we hope that they'll do that. Thank you to everyone. All right, Mr. Bell, please call the role. Mr. Sabolski, yes. Mrs. Click, yes. Mrs. Schneider. Yes. Mr. Aim. Yes. Mrs. Mahales. Yes. And finally, we have exhibit E1E, which is a resolution to approve release time for religious instruction. May I have a motion, please? Second. Mr. Yes. Uh, so just to remind the board, this is a part of House Bill 8, which is uh now in law. It's been 90 days since it's been signed by the governor and we needed to have a board policy in place
040to address the concerns in relation to release uh released religious time. So the things that are in this policy are aligned with the bill well with the law now the bill that became law. So things like getting written requests uh from parents, um being sure that the group wherever is that the students might be released to maintain attendance records and makes them available to us to you know to keep track. Um they'll also assume liability and then um if the student is absent uh from school and can't be during a core course um from there. So we'll work with the students to go like during say a study hall or something like that. Um the group will also be responsible for transportation. Um so that's not on the district from there. That's in our policy.
041Um and I guess the other thing I wanted to point about about uh here is is that we we are requiring that it's an option but we are requiring that uh that each of the folks that our kids are going to to work with will have criminal backgrounds and records checks and things like that from there. So, um, we're hitting all the, um, requirements and then some with this particular policy. Any questions? Mr. Bison, please call the role. Mrs. Click, yes. Mr. Sabolski, yes. Mrs. Mahales, yes. Mr. Aim, yes. Mrs. Schneider, yes. Okay. Resolution is approved and we have no discussion items. Is that right? Are there any board items? Right. And I'll ask for a motion to adjurnn, please. Move. Mr. Bison, please call the role. Mrs. Click, yes. Mrs. Mahales, yes. Mr. Akim,
042yes. Mr. Sabolski, yes. Mrs. Schneider, yes.