07/14/2025 CWLS Board Meeting

001Good evening. >> Good evening. It is 700 p.m. and we call this meeting to order. Um good me good evening. It is 7 p.m. My name is Vangela Barnes and we call this meeting to order on July 14, 2025 for our um monthly stu um Canal Winchester Board of Education meeting. Can we please call the role? >> Miss Barnes, >> present. >> Mr. George >> here. >> Ms. Green >> here. >> Mrs. Tally >> here. >> Mr. Twist. >> Thank you. Um, can we please stand to say our pledge of allegiance? I >> pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Any deletions or additions to the agenda? >> Nope. That's we'll

002um do a motion to approve the agenda. >> So move. >> Second. >> Take a roll call, please. >> Mrs. Tally. >> Yes. >> Mr. George. >> Yes. >> Miss Barnes. >> Yes. >> Miss Green. >> Yes. >> Next on the agenda is the um is our presentations. And the first presentation we have is our um honorable uh Senator Michelle Reynolds will be um providing a presentation today. >> Is it okay to stand here? >> Okay, great. >> Well, good evening board members. Thank you so much for having me tonight. Um, I wanted to stop by. I'm actually doing rounds. And um, by doing rounds, what I mean is I'm going to our local, um, city council meetings, schoolboard meetings, and township meetings to stop by and give legislative updates. So, um, I wanted to

003be able to do that today. Um, currently the the general assembly is on recess and so during, um, our break we're able to get more into the district. So, I wanted to come by and talk about a couple of things that uh we are working on at the state. I also want to talk about the state budget because I'm sure there's a lot of questions about that, specifically as it relates to uh property taxes and school funding. Um so, first I want to just share that um uh as far as the school funding um highlights, the state formula aid for education was increased by 1.4 billion. um including all the scholarships um and that is a 6.2% increase over the FY uh 2425 bianium for a total investment of 23.87 billion. Um of that increase

004the budget provides nearly $1 billion in state formula aid to public schools compared to the current FY 2425 bianium. That's a 4.7% increase. Um, I just want to point out that this also includes traditional districts, community STEM, and JVSDS. This is in addition to the 1.2 Z 1.2 billion and 2.31 billion increases provided in the last two budgets. So, in total over the past six years, the state has invested 59.93 billion in our public schools. Um the budget this year completes the phase in of the fair school funding plan at the full guarantee ensuring that no district receives less state aid than it received in FY21 without capping any increase in formula aid for the districts. So depending on who you ask the question is is the state funding at the fair school funding formula?

005If you are adding from a 2025 number then the answer would be no. If you are adding from the 2020 the FY21 number which is precoid the answer is yes. And that's when the guarantee was put in place. So that's why there's discrepancy when you hear people um talking about f fully funding our our schools at the fair school funding formula. The reason that there's discourse about that is because um we're not necessarily adding from the same point and I just wanted to make that clear. Um I know that the issues is not are not as simple as the talking points. A lot of times you know we're hearing people say well we should just take money from this and give money to that. Um it isn't that simple as your treasurer knows. Um school

006funding formula is very very complicated. It's very complex and it includes a lot of different metrics and one of those metrics is property taxes and right now property taxes is one of the biggest issues that um we are facing in the state. We get emails and calls all the time not just for school funding but we also get it for property taxes. At the end of the day people are very upset that their property taxes have gone up 30 and some 40%. And we in Canal Winchester are in a very high growth district area as you all know. Everything is um you know the the market for housing is very very uh the demand for housing is very great but there's you know very high interest rates and that is causing an influxation in our

007uh property taxes. So what are we going to do about it? We as elected officials, especially at the state house, um we're voted in because, you know, we have to represent all in the interests of all of all of the residents. And so obviously that is a a big job and we can we cannot ignore when people call us and say that what are we going to do about their property taxes. So over the last year, the general assembly has created certain proposals um some good, some bad, some you know, whatever you know what you want to say. Um but trying to at least tackle that problem. And one thing that we know and I want to make clear is that if we don't address it, the voters will. They've already talked about a ballot

008initiative that is going to be coming out in FY26 um on the ballot that is going to hope hopefully they do not prevail. But they want to eliminate property taxes and we all know um that that would be devastating for our schools. It would be devastating if they're the way schools are funded um is partially through our property taxes. So if we eliminate property taxes, it would devastate school funding. So that tells us that we have to do something that is um it impacts our property taxes in a way where people feel like they have some relief, but we also balance being able to fund our schools. The answer is not to do nothing. And I know that I've encountered many um people who, you know, are very passionate about education as I am and

009their their response is don't touch our schools, find the money somewhere else. But unless we change the formula, it just doesn't happen. The formula actually has property taxes as part of the formula. So, we have to do something. Um, and what I'm here to do is to just, you know, communicate that we would really like our school system, our school boards, especially in my Senate district, um, to be part of that solution. I'm inviting you to be part of the solution, um, and not the problem. Because at the end of the day, if we do nothing, the voters will do it and then the are going to be looking at us saying, "How are you going to fund our schools?" The only way we could fund our schools then would be sales taxes, which would

010rise to about 20%. Which means that nobody would be buying anything in Ohio. They would be going to our border states and border cities or border states to buy products outside of Ohio, which would trash our economy. And also, it would increase our income taxes. Um, as you know, in this budget, we did um decrease the income tax brackets to 2.75% a flat tax. Um, say what you will, some people would say, well, you know, the richer aren't paying their fair share. Um, however, it is it is equitable that no matter what you make. Now, if you make 26,000 or under, you don't pay taxes anyway, income taxes. that um if it is over $26,000, everybody pays 2.75%. So if we do nothing, we have to look at those two metrics as going up and

011that is not something that we should do. If you ask the average taxpayer, the average homeowner, someone that may not be as um savvy about school funding and property taxes, if you ask the average Joe citizen, would you like to eliminate their property taxes? The polls say yes and that is not good. There are petitions going around and they're asking people what would it be a good idea to eliminate property taxes? Well, yeah, because my property tax bill is 30 or 40% higher than it was. That is not a good thing. So, having said that, uh the legislature is in a posture where it has to do something. Now, as you can tell in the media, um you know, we've had the House the House of Representatives have come up with a plan on their

012version of how do we uh fund schools and make sure that we give property tax relief to our our citizens. The the um House plan was to cap carryover and the carryover plan that they had was 30%. And then um we in the Senate had a counter proposal and our counter proposal was to cap it at 50% but also though allow there to be a capital account where you could still save money a school board could still save money um to or a district could still save money for capital improvements and any other um improvements that you need to for your school to make sure that you're fiscally responsible. We do not want to necessarily send the message out that if a school is saving money for a rainy day or for their bond rating

013or to make sure that they are saving money for the expansion of their school that they're doing a bad thing. That is not the case here. That is not the message we're trying to send. Yet, in doing so, there is there are some schools and a lot of suburban schools that are sitting on carryover at 100% and some 250%. And that makes our taxpayers say, "What the heck is going on? Why do you have all that money?" But you come to the state saying that you need more money. You want fully funded because that was the commitment that we made. And that is true. But our teachers, you know, are teachers getting that money where the money really should be going to educate our students. It begs the question. And so when you are in

014an elected capacity um like you all are, you have to be good stewards of the public's money and you have to be you have to make sure that you're transparent. So we started asking those questions. We started looking, you know, through ledgers and spreadsheets and seeing that there's a whole lot of cash that people are sitting on. And it may it's not every school. It's not it's not every school, but there are some schools that are doing that. And so in our role, it was a way to say, okay, since the formula connects the two, which I don't necessarily agree with because I feel like we pit our f our families against our our seniors because seniors would love to vote for your levies, but they just can't afford to. So the way the formula

015currently is is it puts it together and that's why levies fail. So um we came together in conference committee and 30% was just too lean, 50% was I guess too much. And so we came up with a 40% carryover cap with the inclusion of being able to um have an account for capital expenditures u that you're trying to save for. um as you know it passed but then it went to the governor and the governor then vetoed it in in along along with 67 other um provisions that he vetoed. So um what does that mean? It means a couple of things as as it relates to um the the cash carryover um that is not necessarily back on the table. So, I know that you've heard that um they've called the House members back to

016look at overriding the governor's veto. There are a couple of items that they're looking to do. The cash carryover is not one of them. That is not on the table, at least at this point. Um what is on the table as it relates to property taxes, and this is really about a property tax conversation at this point. Um what is on the table for property taxes is to empower the local budget commission um who has the authority. We we're trying to give them the authority in their local community to be able to make decisions to have even further property tax relief. So that means we can give it at the state level, but then we can empower our budget commissions, our our local auditors, county auditors to say in this community, you know, we want

017to make sure that we give additional relief and they can do that. So that's on the table to be able to override the governor's veto there. Um also is the millillage. Um it is making sure that the 20 mil floor stays a 20 mil floor because currently um and Canal is not ne at the 20 mil floor but there are some schools that are at the 20 mil floor but because of inflation they're still able to collect beyond the 20 mills and we want to make sure that that does not happen. Um so it would be a 20 mil floor that would be set and once you're there you're there. Also the other thing is about levies and um this is about making sure that levies are very transparent because a lot of times taxpayers

018are saying well the schools are coming to us saying um that they're going to have an emergency levy and they say it's not going to raise your property taxes and then the next thing you know it raises their property taxes and they don't understand the difference between the levy. So, this is to make sure that if there is a levy, um the emergency levies actually go away. If there's a levy, it's very transparent and the budget, the county budget commission actually has um the authority to, you know, help craft what that levy is about, what it looks like, and all of those things. So, um I know that's not great news, but at the end of the day, we have to do something about it, or the voters will, and it will put us in

019a worse position than what we are now. Um, I want to thank um both of you for um coming to um a meeting with me and asking about why Canal Winchester is losing uh money even though we're fully funding the schools. Why is it that there is a discrepancy specifically for this school district? Um I think at first it was a tune of like $2 million, but I think it's a little less than that now. Um but I wanted to share with you um and you can tell me if that's the case. I think it's a little over a million dollars now. >> I thought it was 2.5. It was >> It was in year one and 1.7 and year two. >> Okay. Um so let me give you um because I did do some

020research about that and I asked our school policy um advisors and this is what I was told. So I'm going to read this and then of course we can open up for some questions. So, um, the question specifically was is why is Canel Winchester receiving less in the budget bill? And it appears that it is likely due to a big in a big fluctuation in students who are eligible for the disadvantaged pupil impact aid, the DPIA. In October of 2324 school year, the Biden administration expanded the community eligibility provision for free and reduced lunches to permit schools that had at least 25% of their students eligible to expand to all students and feds would help pay for it. DPIA eligibility is based on the number of students eligible for free and reduced lunch. The Department

021of Education and Workforce started counting for DPIA any student eligible for free and reduced lunch, even if the student was only eligible under the community eligibility provision. Not that the student qualified based on being eligible for SNAP, Medicaid, or TANIF. So, Canal Winchester's percentage of students eligible for DPIA grew from 44.94% in FY24 to 99.17% in FY25. You all received a huge increase between 24 and 25 of almost 50%. And House Bill 96 phases down the amount that that district will receive for students whose DPIA eligibility is truly from being eligible for SNAP Medicaid and TANIF, not from what the feds had said originally that you could count everybody. And so now that is actually factoring that in and that is why you're seeing uh a difference in your um in your what you're getting

022in the budget bill. That's what I was I wanted to come back and share with you guys about that. Um so before I open for questions, I also wanted to just share that um tomorrow I am having a I'm hosting another um town hall meeting. It's a telet town hall. Um, I mainly do that because I represent three counties. Uh, my district is almost 400,000 people. I represent three counties, which is, um, Franklin, Madison, and Pickaway. And I am going to have all of the county auditors from all three counties on the call tomorrow to talk about property taxes. And we're also going to talk about housing. Um, so anybody is welcome to come. We have some flyers out there on the table. Um, all you need to do is register for that by sending

023an email to my office and we will make sure that you get the registration link um to register for that and be able to submit any questions that you have. I'll also be co-hosting this with one of the House members, Adam Matthews. He is a um state representative um representing Ohio Senate I mean Ohio House District 56. He also does a lot on housing policy. Um so we want to be able to address this and it's really timely. I mean, this was something that I said I was going to do when I did the one for education, but now it's a really timely conversation because we're talking about uh property taxes. It may maybe it being a veto override. We're not sure if there's going to be the votes in the House. I'm not sure.

024So, I don't know if the Senate is going to be coming back or not. Um but on the 21st, which I believe is next Monday, uh the House is meeting and we'll see what happens. And with that, I'm happy to open for any questions you may have. Thank you, Senator Reynolds, for being here and sharing that information. Um, in your presentation, you mentioned that um you would like for um the state uh your law m the lawmakers and schoolboard members to work together towards a solution. Um what do you see that looking like? >> So for me specifically, I would like any um feedback on what um the school because I believe those that are closest to the problem are closest solution. Um and I think a solution is here's a viable option. Um not

025just talking points, not just take money from the stadium and give to the schools. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about um treasurers maybe coming together, people that understand these issues. Let's sit down. Let's have a conversation. Let's around some proposals that may help. Um because I think that if we get the schools in part of the solution now, then we can actually stop a train wreck from happening in 2026. Um but the feedback I've gotten from the schools really I mean as I'm going here is just don't touch it and we'll just see what happens. And I don't think that that is wise. um and nor is that something that the property tax and homeowners want to hear. So that's what I'm talking about is really sitting down and being resultsoriented because

026um you know our treasurers are close to this like they understand the numbers. I'm a lay person. I'm not even on the education committee anymore. I used to be but we get consultants that come in and talk to us and try to help us unpack to the best of our ability. So even what I'm delivering right now, I'm not an expert at this, but it's something that's I'm trying to understand so that I can make sure that I share that information with people who do this work. So thank you for your question. >> Certainly, and I I do agree. Um I hope that uh we all can come together and have a meaningful conversation. Um just and with the backdrop of the fair school funding plan, um it's just kind of um disappointing to me

027that it seems that there's just differing, you know, um perspectives as far as what viewpoint you're coming from. and I understand the way that you presented it as far as um highlighting the increases that schools are getting. However, um realistically, there's uh under the current state budget, there would be a $2.86 billion shortfall that schools are receiving and due to one of the changes you mentioned was the DPIA. um that's been reconfigured and it affects um districts with uh lowincome students. Um the other portion that it uh disadvantagially affect would be um it eliminates the supplemental targeted assistance. Um so that also affects districts with low wealth. Um and it seems that the state has been reallocating resources towards districts that are more wealthy as opposed to providing the needed assistance to the school districts

028um of more impoverished students. So that's what's um unsettling for me. >> Yeah, I hear you. And um and I think that's a valid point. I mean, I appreciate you sharing it. um from what I'm getting on, you know, from the from the legislature is never in history have we funded the schools more than we are now. Um I would venture to say that it would never be enough to be honest. I mean, there's always going to be students who have very critical needs. And I think that we have to come together as a community and figure out what is it that we can do with the resources that we have to try to do the best that we can. Um, because I think even with what you said, I think it would even be

029that much more devastating if we have no property tax. I mean, we eliminate property taxes. Now, we're having a whole different conversation. now we're having a conversation about can we find money at all for the schools. So, um I I truly do appreciate that and um and I'm willing to listen. That's what I'm here to do is share and listen so that we can make some better decisions. So, thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. >> Um thank you for being here. I appreciate that. Um >> welcome. and and kind of along with along with board member Tally. So her number 2.86 billion uh underfunded that comes from policy matters and I think that you know depending on who you talk to and and which organization it is they're going to come up with a different

030number. Um I guess my main concern uh you had mentioned that this that this plan implements the fair school funding fully but it doesn't really. It implements the fair school funding when it was initiated back in 21. So, um, with base cost inputs from 22 and since then we've had inflation of 10%. So, inflation affects school districts just like it affects you and I shopping at the grocery store. Um, it also you gave no updates uh of the weights and costs of special education, English language learners, both of those were required in the fair school funding plan. So, um, and you're, and as, uh, board member Tally mentioned, it seems like it's hitting economically disadvantaged districts significantly. Um, on your website, Michelle Reynolds.org, you espouse 10 commitments, and one of them is improving Ohio's K12

031education system. So your your yes vote on this budget, I'd like to understand how your yes vote aligns with that commitment when the school districts in your district are taking probably somewhere in the vicinity of a 4 to 5 million overall funding cut. >> So um as with any budget, I don't know if you all vote on your budget. I would suspect that you do. Uh it's an up or down vote. It's it's you don't get to pick and choose what you're voting for. you're either voting for the budget or you're not voting for the budget. And there was a lot of good things that came out of the budget. Um I didn't vote to screw our school districts or our children or our families. As I said, we are funding schools more now than

032we have in Ohio history. And I understand that. And I do believe that depending on who you ask, it'll be enough or it won't be enough. But I voted yes for the budget because there are a lot of good things. I mean, no budget is perfect. Um, but there were no poison pills in there for me. >> And I I think that we can um be reasonable minds as we are all leaders, as we are all elected officials, and we can come together and help um determine how we can do certain things. So, um just I I would ask the same to somebody else who voted no for the budget. That means they voted no for a lot of good things that help our community. Um, particularly, you know, there are some things that we

033did for fatherhood. There's some things that we did for mental health. There's things that we did for for families, for child care. We got child care funded for more people who need child care than ever before. We got um money in the budget for housing because people are hurting because of housing. And we did get a fair school funding. Like I said, the commitment was made in 2021 precoid. Um, depending on who you ask, if we think that um the general assembly was going to use a 2025 number, they were never going to use that number. So, it's always going to be um that if you're using that then and you hear people say, "Oh, they're not funding our schools because they're not going to 2025." They weren't going to. So, that's pretty disingenuous to

034say, "Well, they're not funding us because of 2025." They they've never done that. They're not doing that because first of all, there's not enough money to do that. There just isn't. And we can say, well, we have other priorities, but at the end of the day, there's 28 departments that have to still be funded. Uh, state departments, Department of Correction, Job and Family Services, uh, Department of Education and Workforce, U, Department of Medicaid, all of those have a state budget as well. So, everybody has some competing priorities. And what we are tasked to do is do the best that we can with what we have. Now, um, yes, I did make that commitment. I stand by my commitment. There's a lot of education policy that I have done. And when I was on the education

035committee, I passed at least four major bills that actually impact the schools today. And one of those is school safety. So, there's a lot that I've done. I can't single-handedly force the Ohio General Assembly to make a law that's going to help specifically Canal Winchester. I wish I had that kind of power, but I don't. Um, but I'm here and I'm going to continue to be here and I'm going to continue to listen and continue to advocate the best way that I can. >> So, thank you for your question. >> I do appreciate that. Thank you for the answer. So, it it sounds to me um from your comments on property tax and and what needs to happen with property tax uh that if the House does vote to override the vetos uh or to

036to override Governor DeWine's vetos uh specifically as they as they or as they relate to property taxes. It sounds to me like you're probably going to be a yes vote on those on those veto overrides. >> Well, it sounds to you more than it sounds to me because I'm still, you know, I'm I'm having a town hall tomorrow. I want to listen to what the auditors have to say. I want to listen to what the constituents have to say. I want to listen to what school districts have to say. I want to listen to the testimony of the House when they actually um go on the floor and they make their proposals and then I'm going to make a decision. >> Okay. Thank you. >> But I I'm happy to, you know, >> No, I

037appreciate that. >> Come back and and share that. But maybe you know something I don't know. >> No, I was just listening to what you were saying. I appreciate that. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. I had wrote a statement, but I'm just going to kind of highlight parts of it. My issues less with the funding. There's there's always winners and losers in the formula, and I knew once the formula was going to get in, which is great long term for school districts, we were going to lose in it. I understood that, but I also understand the long game of the formula is best for us, especially when the next time we hopefully can get base cost adjusted, and that's really the only thing we have left because at this point it would be

038phased in. Mine's more about kind of the democracy of how things are handled. when these things were introduced very late in the process. We didn't have a chance to really testify, the emergency levies you're talking about, which we happen to have one. Uh we passed it in 9, we've renewed it in 11, 14, 19, and 24. So if our if our tax community didn't want it or if they were confused, they they would vote against that. Uh only 26% of Ohio schools have these emergency levies. I wouldn't consider that to be tax reform. I would consider that to be more of a targeted policy that's really leaving threearters of the districts untouched, but the 25% that are touched are drastically impacted. We make decisions just like we did with the DPIA. We played the game

039to our advantage and then the formula was changed within it. So it went from what we signed up for for three years to receive C from from the federal government to saying now we're going to change the way that this is calculated. So now the rules are going to change. So the decision that we made was smart. Now it's coming in from the state to make that as not as a wise decision. So it kind of hurts us. We go borrow money to build a performing arts center and then the 30% cash balance comes out. So, we're making decisions which we feel like is the best decisions and then legislation's happening that really truly tries to take those good decisions and make them turns them into bad decisions because had the 30% cash balance got

040in, we would have had to do something to get that cash over. So we would have lost in the funding formula. We would have lost in DPIA. We would have lost on our emergency levy and we would have lost interest earnings because we would have had to get rid of about $25 million. So we would have probably lost anywhere from 5 to 8 million annually just in one budget cycle. And all of those things that we did we felt like were really good decisions for our taxpayers. We haven't asked for new money since 2009. and we don't have any anticipation to ask for any probably in the next 5 to 10 years. Um it's just the fact that I understand you want to give the budget commission authority, but it takes it from a democracy

041to a dictatorship when our taxpayers could pass a levy and then the budget commission could say, "You don't need that levy. We're going to override it and take it away." I just don't feel like that's a democratic government. I feel like that's a more of a dictatorship or whatever you want to call it. It just really our biggest thing is I know that the game's going to change a little bit periodically, but it's July 1st or 14th. We're already into our budget year and we may not know the impact of this budget until August or September. I haven't even completed budgets yet because I can't I I've been waiting for the process to run its course. And this is every two years. The game changes every two years. And it's not just from the state

042side. It used to just be from the state side, but now it's let's consolidate the 20 mil floor. Let's let's reduce the emergency levies. That's uh I understand there's a need for tax reform, but it's a bigger picture and there needs to be more homework done. We have people that live in this district that pay 2% city income tax because they work here, but they're also paying 1 to 2% in another city where they live. That also needs to be looked at. there needs to be some caps put in place to where you can't you don't have to pay more than 3% of local income tax to municipalities or townships or all those. I think it's a much broader piece of the puzzle and it and what makes it hard is every taxing authority is

043different. I mean, just for example, in this district, you can live in our school district and pay $12 less per thousand dollar valuation if you live if you live in Fairfield County just because you do not have the higher Franklin County, you do not have the higher uh Madison Township, you don't have all the zoo taxes, all those different things. So, $12 per thousand just by living in the same school district, different county. It's just kind of the way it works. And I don't know if we're ever going to get a tax reform that is fair across the board because at the end of the day, we're only talking about probably 20% of districts that actually levy taxes. The other 80% never dream of levying a tax because they know they can't pass it. And

044that's outside the suburban areas. So our suburban districts are levying, but your rural districts really aren't. >> They try. Some of them try, but where I'm from, Iron and where Vanie's from Portsmouth, south of Chilik Coffee, they don't have levies. It's not even a thing. And I'm sure in like rural rural areas. And the fact is people choose to live here because of certain things. They choose to live here for schools. They choose to live here for and kind of the acceptance of the property taxes and what comes with it is almost assumed. Um, I think there's tax reform that needs to happen. I just think it the way that it happened coming in 335 coming in at the last minute. All these additions trying to come in and actually get into the budget bill

045last minute without taking testimony and doing research. I think it was just the wrong way to go about it to where I don't think most of your colleagues wanted input. I think they wanted to try to get it into the budget bill knowing people like you couldn't v vote against the budget bill because there's so many other factors in it that you support and I just feel like that's wrong um and the wrong approach to take. >> Well, I appreciate what you've shared. I think that's very fair. I think your assessment is very fair and I really do appreciate you sharing that. Um one thing in Ohio that we value is um being a local home rule um state um where we can as much as possible recognize that um solutions or decisions should be

046made at the local level. Um you can see that that's kind of coming even from the federal government to the states pushing things to the states from the states down to the local community. And um so I think that that's consistent with the whole county budget. Um and I know that that's not necessarily At least that's what I'm hearing. I think it sounded good um when they were conveying it to us that, you know, we're not passing the buck. We're going to do what we're going to do and pay for it. The state's going to pay for a certain level of property tax relief and then we're going to allow a county budget commission to even do that much more um and weigh in on their local community. So, that's really the mindset. I just

047want you to understand where that's coming from. Um but I guess um you know a more democratic system if I'm understanding correctly would be let the voters decide right um about um a lot of these issues right and even the issue of property taxes going away that would be a more democratic system and in the event that the voters decided we don't want property taxes anymore there are some serious implications for that but yet and still it would be a democratic process. So, um, but those are now people who may not have all the information, um, that, um, goes into making decisions like this or knowing the unintended consequences. And I can, and I agree, it's it's very unfair that things they have a timeline for the budget and we have to get as much

048done as possible and everybody's trying to get their proposals in and that's the system that we have in Ohio until we change it. And I also agree with you that this whole uh school funding formula situation is, you know, it's it's very complex and it needs a deeper dive. And I'm happy to report that the governor has commissioned a task force, a property tax task force um that is going to have um certain experts on there. I think Congress, former Congressman Pat Tberry is going to be on that commission um to take a deeper dive and look at how do we do it for today's times? How do we live up to problems and expectations um so that we can be more thoughtful and not be so hurried. And I think that's why the governor

049decided to veto because not because he didn't agree with property tax reform. He agreed that we need a better system and we need to take our time. And I wouldn't necessarily disagree with him that we need a better system and we need to take our time. So that's why I said I want to take in all of the information, but I think we set ourselves up to fail if we just keep kicking the can down the field. So, I'm going to let you in on some inside baseball. It's been said since I got to the Senate that this fair school funding formula, the way it was conceived, is not sustainable. It's just not. So, because of that, it's always every year on the agenda on how are we going to do this where we value

050and honor the schools and we honor our commitment, but how can we fix it? And if we just keep kicking the can down the field, at some point when it the bottom falls out, we're going to have this same conversation. So, this was the general assembly that it was decided. We have to really do something different. And so, um, we could kick it down the field another two years and just say, "Okay, well, the governor vetoed it. We're not going to do anything. And let's just see what happens with this levy." And hopefully it doesn't pass. And we just keep going on. But I can assure you, in two years, we'll be back right here at this conversation. So, I do think that that is very fair and I appreciate you saying that and I

051agree wholeheartedly with everything that you said. You're welcome. >> Yes, ma'am. Thank you again for being here. >> I'm sorry. I have a few comments and questions and thank you also again for being here. Um, so um I know there was we had a telet town hall with you or um the telet town hall not too long ago where you weren't able to attend and you were invited but weren't able to come and um one of our um Chloe sat in and took the questions. >> So >> I'm sorry let me rephrase that. It wasn't the telet town hall. We had a we had a meeting. You weren't able to come but you did hold a telet town hall separately from that and we were able to ask questions. However, what I wanted to ask

052was on that telet town hall, it was only about an hour and it only gave us a chance to ask about four questions. And going back to our comments already about um fairness and being able to have these discussions prior to these things coming up. Um, how can we really be sure or how can you really be sure that you're really hearing from your constituents through a telet town hall? Um, if there's only four questions that's able to be asked with three different counties that you represent. Um, and is there a reason why you won't or can't hold a um a town hall where more people can come and ask their questions? Uh, because phone. The technology of being able to ask questions over the phone uh is just limited and an hour is not

053enough to hear from the constituents that you represent. It seems like and it would be more efficient to me it seems to be able to um allow more people to come and talk to you in person and how can can that be arranged? >> So um let me just say thank you for your comments. Um, I guess the assumption is is that I only talk to constituents during a telet town hall. I actually host office hours a lot. Um, I take meetings, um, which we've had a meeting. Um, so I take meetings and appointments. We've had meetings. Um, I talk to constituents all the time. Um, I've also done, um, I don't call them town halls. I also do interested party meetings. I also I also host roundts um that are uh subject specific um

054whether it's housing, education, this is just one forum of an efficient way uh to do something. So it's just another tool for people who may not be able to make that commute. Um but there's no problem with me um hosting various things. I mean I I that's why I'm here, you know, so I'm I'm here. I want to be able to answer those questions, but um you know, I don't do things like everybody else does them, but I I do try to make sure that I offer a variety of ways to connect with my constituents. So that way um anybody can reach me um at any given point to talk about their concerns. But we get emails, we have phone calls, we have virtual calls, we do town halls, we do telet town halls, we

055do uh roundts, interested party meetings. Um, and I do want to share that there was public testimony for the budget. Um, I know Groport City Schools actually showed up and gave um opponent testimony on the budget. So, there was an opportunity um through the finance committee on the budget to weigh in on this budget and oppose or to um support the budget >> on the budget bill. We testified, but House Bill 335 was introduced. >> So, House Bill 335 is a non-starter. Yeah, that >> a lot of these provisions came from House the Bill 335. >> Well, the the the main problem with House Bill 335 from my understanding that was giving a lot of heartburn was that it was going to take away the inside millage >> and um when that came over to

056the Senate, we quickly uh said that's not going to happen. So um but anybody can propose a bill idea as you know. Um so that was um it's not going to go any further. some of those things, like you said, did make it to the budget, but not something that would just completely obliterate our cities and our schools because we're not interested in doing that. >> I have a couple more questions. >> Yes, ma'am. >> And thank you for your answer on that one. >> You're welcome. >> You mentioned the amount of money that the uh schools are sitting on. >> What? I'm sorry. >> You mentioned the amount of money that some schools and the schools are sitting on. >> Um what's the comparison of that to the amount of money that the state

057sits on for a rainy day fund? And um how is it that we think it's okay for the state to tell the school that we can't manage our money at our local level, but the rainy day fund for the state is not being told they can't sit on a certain percentage of their money either to fund that where that money could go to fund some of these other things that need help. >> Yeah. So I don't disagree with you. My comments earlier was I don't want to send the message that schools that are being fiscally responsible should not be fiscally responsible. Um and I don't really know how much the um the comparison is. I I don't know that. I can certainly find out. Um but um it's not on the table to cap cash

058carryovers uh anymore. So that's not a situation. Now obviously the governor did override I mean he he vetoed that. Um it's our prerogative to override it and at this point that's not on the table. So, um, but even if it were on the table, that's if I am able to cherrypick certain issues and say yes, I vote yes on this and no, I vote no on that, I'll do that. But I think that just like with any budget, it's up or down vote. So, we have to see the body of what's on the table and factor it all in. Um but we are still as good stewards of the public's money. We still have to say okay there's still a property tax um situation here and we have to answer to the people of why

059some school districts have 250% of their annual revenue and still get fully funded. We have to be able to speak to that. And when we have teachers that are um and teachers unions that say that we need more money because the teachers need to, you know, we need to give salaries to teachers and special education services on all of that. We still have to ask those questions. So that's my response to that. >> And I guess this is more like I don't know if this is really a question or a comment, but um we throw out these catchy phrases of uh school choice. We've always had a choice. um public school or private school, that's always been a choice. Um and now we're throwing out the catchy phrase of no property tax. Um I think

060we really should think about throwing these phrases out because we need to make sure our public and our constituents understand what that means. That, you know, I may be a 19year-old and I'm only working at McDonald's. Well, I don't care about property tax, but I own a home and that's a different story to me. Or um I care about whether or not the police come, my roads are done, the fire people are called. So, I think we need to make sure that when we throw these little catchy phrases out that we also say what that means if we didn't have and where and what all property tax goes to fund. It does not just fund schools. Property taxes fund a lot of other things in our community. And I think it's important that our citizens

061understand it's not just about school taxes. It seems like the schools are being picked on with this, but it's not just the schools when you say no property tax. And when you say you have it kick the can down the road and it may be two years, why not take those two years to push re-evaluating how properties are evaluated for increasing the taxes on those and why taxes are the only way to fund these things by increasing the value of the properties. Why not look at um that formula of increasing property values in order to get more money instead of using that as a means of getting more money. Um find another way besides property values during those two years. Have a think tank for that. Um instead of saying nothing's going to get done

062for two years, why not use those two years to try to figure out how can we redo those formulas? um think I think that would be a better way than just not doing anything for two years towards reducing um taxes for all for whatever reason we're doing it and not affect the schools and the need that the schools need to be able to fund the schools public schools for education. Um that would be my my thought on that. And then the last thing is um when we were talking about the SNAP um benefits and Medicaid being part of the formula, if we start charging every family now for school lunch, it's a tax to them. You know, it's more money coming out of their pocket in their household. So maybe yeah, we maybe we reduced

063their taxes overall for um down to what did you say? I think I don't think the number was 26,000. I really think it was more like over 75,000. Um that there's a reduction in taxes and I think that reduction is only around four or 5%. I don't think it's 2.75, but I have to go back and look at it because I don't remember those numbers exactly that way. But what I was saying is instead of us um saying that if we're going to start making everybody pay for their school lunches again, then we're basically taking their tax right back up because they're not really getting anything back in their pocket by reducing their taxes because they're going to now be paying more money out for school lunches again. So, I mean, I'm just throwing that

064out there. >> Yeah, all valid points. I took some notes. Um thank you. And I don't disagree with you at all. I mean, I do think that we need to use this time um to um look at how we maybe revise the formula. Um but until we fully phased it in, there wasn't really an appetite for people to say, why are you changing it in midstream? So, I think this is the perfect time. So, I agree with you. Um and uh there is a property tax um uh commission now that's going to be taking that deep dive. I guess the question now becomes if uh voters can wait. But I also agree with you that when we throw around no property taxes, there's huge implications and the average person doesn't necessarily know what that is.

065I was just at the city of Canal Winchester meeting last week and I did my legislative update and shared with them that as well. And you know, they're they're like, "Yeah, that's going to be very impactful to our communities, to our cities, because that's how we operate our cities." Um but that's also why we're having a housing conversation as well because as more housing goes in um at least in specific growth areas, smart growth areas, then you can get more property taxes which can help you with um funding your city services. So there's all tied together. Like I said when I first started, the issues are not as simple as the talking points. Talking points are easy to throw it out there and say different things as if it's just that simple. But I think

066we run the risk of oversimplifying the issues when we just say those things and we're not and you don't necessarily know like I I don't profess to be a scholar in this at all. Um but I I interested and I'm interested in learning how we can do it. So those points that you all just gave I made some notes and I will be taking it back and um and I'm happy to come back and share. >> My last comment would be just be careful of ch trying to change market value. >> Okay. From 2000 to 2009, our value was very similar to what it's been the last six years. It was historically high increases. And then the recession hit in 2009, I don't have the numbers in front of me. I'm just recalling from memory.

067But the recession hit in 2009. And from 2009 to 2017, we essentially were flat. We didn't receive another penny of real estate value. So the only way that schools could generate more money was to levy. So the only reason we're even discussing tax reform right now is because of inflation which has driven up driven up the value of these homes. It's not because of tax rates. Our tax rates I've been here 10 years. We've went from 60 mills to 33 mills. So our mills have drastically declined. We're only talking about this because of values. History shows that a recession at some point will happen to where these values come back to fair market value. The other comment I would make is property tax reform and the and the formula have to be tied together somehow

068because in the formula we are hurt because of timing of our valuation increases. Everybody had time had valuation increases. Ours went up 104%. I looked at other districts, they were 60 and 70%. There's one up, but not 104%. It was just poor timing for us when you're using a three-year average evaluations. So, that's one of the big reasons our formula went down because we're showing that we're local capacity is strong. So, local capacity is strong, state revenue goes down. You're also going to try to now blend emergency levy with the 20 mil floor which would take us off the 20 mil floor. We are at the 20 mil floor and not allow us to renew the levy which we've had in place since 2009 which would cost our taxpayers 12.5% on the homestead and roll

069back because at that point we would not be able to renew. We would have to do a new levy. So I think the discussion And Nick, there's also the fact that even though there's inflation, there's also the fact that this area in central Ohio is growing so fast and we're we have not kept up with the market in building enough homes. So the demand is much higher. And so because of that, the value of homes is being evaluated at a higher amount than it probably should be because of demand. Not to mention, we've got a drone company coming and Intel coming and all these people moving to this area that >> it is but >> that that changes our market value. >> The federal government raises their debt ceiling $2 trillion a year. >> The

070Federal Reserve prints that $2 trillion. So it becomes a global liquidity. So $100,000 I saw an article yesterday $100,000 two years ago >> you have to earn $125 now to equate to that 100,000. So yeah, the property values are high, but also the 853,000 >> isn't truly 853,000 anymore. >> It's probably relative to what you're making because of the inflation and the liquidities that have been put in the market. >> Um, I don't know the answer to it. >> I was going to ask you, do you have any ideas on what would be a viable solution that I could share? >> I've started thinking about it. I don't want to say right now. Maybe we can touch base >> later. >> I'm happy to have that conversation. >> Love to hear what you have to

071say. >> But thank you. >> You're welcome. >> And I would just like to thank you for coming um and taking the opportunity to present to us and then also just to answer our questions. Um that's much appreciated. My my I won't add too much because I think everybody covered it and I think we all made some very good points. Um and I appreciate you listening. One of the things that I would and I know you're in a position u but one of the things that I would ask is that um we allow for the task force that Dwine is putting together to actually occur because the changes that Nick mentioned to the 20 mil floor and to um the changes in the types of levies that we can levy that has an impact on

072us that is um I know we talked about the inside millillage when we had the call but it has a huge impact on us that we would lose money very quickly from those changes and that would have a negative impact on us and our students. And the other piece that Nick also mentioned is that we are still in limbo um and we start school our teachers come back in less than 24 days and so we are in a position of waiting and yes on Monday the house is going to vote but then if it passes how long does it take for the senate to vote? So I think those things and just allowing for the process of the task force to happen where there's voices and we can measure the positive in positives and the

073negatives from those changes instead of quickly making uh decisions on what's what was vetoed uh and the impact that we have. I just think taking the the time to really research it and do it right instead of doing it quickly. So that would be just my ask >> the post that we've been doing. >> Yep. I appreciate that. Thank you. I wrote that down. Thank you. >> Shows high character for you. I want to give you kudos because you came out here and not very many senators and representatives are walking out here during a during a house or a budget bill shortly after to take the fire and take the questions. So, >> 100% appreciate. I do care. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. And I will be back. >> Thank you. Thanks for Thank

074you very much. >> Welcome. Next on the agenda um is uh the CWEA. >> Uh good evening everybody. Kevin Baror Jasmine Smithers co-presidents for CWA. came in to mention what uh teachers are doing this summer and make a few comments about the state budget bill. Also, also Audrey Rice, our secretary, is here tonight. Um, first of all, uh, can Winchester teachers have been involved with professional development, working on advanced degrees, and recharging for the 2526 school year. Um, we know that the balance, the work work life balance is very important, and we're going to be fired up and ready to go here in about 20 days. Is that 20ish days. >> Um, and then a few things I've taken notes on. I'm not going to belabor the points because I think a lot of board

075members already made very good points about the state budget. Um, we do acknowledge that the state budget provides a slight increase in public school funding. Um however um according to NBC4 the fair school funding plan as it was talked about based on the 2021 numbers um according to their site is it's underfunded by about 670 million to $800 million or maybe more. I don't know who you asked. Um one of the changes that the Senate made in the state budget was supplying an extra hundred million for high achieving and improving districts. Um those are districts that get four or five star ratings. Uh fortunately for Canal, we have a four-star rating. So we're part of that. The five and four and a half star rated schools in Franklin County are Beexley, um Upper Arlington, New

076Albany, Grand View Heights, Worththington, Dublin, and Hillyard, which echoes what Miss Tally was saying about a lot of the funding going towards more affluent areas. Um and on top of that, the the tax change, um the state tax money elected as changing from 3.5% to 3.125% to 2.75% for everybody, but the the reductions only apply to uh families that are making 102,000 or more. So, um you know that it's it's once again favoring the the affluent and and leaving out, you know, the everyday jail. Um, another thing is the the scholarship slash voucherschool choice programs that have been supported in our in our state. Um, in the 2324 school year, $970 million have left state funds to go to private schools with the the school voucher system. Um, that's money that our districts could use.

077And the the whole idea of school choice I like to think of and I've seen people relate that to pool choice. Um if I want to go to the Canal and Chester pool, I can go there. I also have a choice to build a pool in my backyard. I would not expect the city or the state to fund my swimming pool in my backyard. Um if if you decide that, you know, a private school is for your child, then you have that choice. Um but that money should go to the schools that are public schools. Um the performance payouts uh the oh back to the property taxes. Property taxes that we've talked about with the House Bill 335 that was proposed but apparently it's not going anywhere would cut funding to the states by 1.5

078billion. And that amount of money in the state of Ohio would represent the salaries of about 15th of the teachers in the state of Ohio. Um, and of course we know that $600 million is going to the Cleveland Browns this year to help them with their stadium, while NFL owners are seeing huge rises in the value of their teams. That's hard to believe. Public schools are under attack from the current majority in the Ohio State House. Um, CWA is begging our state reps to put education first and that's all. Thank you. Next on the agenda is the 2024 2025 behavioral data presentation. >> Thank you. Um I am going to um I think stay seated if you guys are okay with that and go through um I have this presentation and another after and I

079know in the next one I'm going to be doing a lot of pointing on the screen. So, it's just easier to stay here. Um, so in March, if you recall, we had a behavior data for first semester. We compared um semester data from semester 1 to semester data from last year, semester 1, so that we could compare apples to apples. So, we're taking the opportunity tonight to share uh that same data for both semester 2 and year-over-year data. Just as a reminder, our behavior and our discipline data helps us identify trends, support students, and improve interventions at our buildings. And um some other information here is discipline and behavior data are recorded throughout each school year and that is inputed by teachers, staff, and our administrators. The state collects some discipline data for school districts

080in Ohio. So some of the higher level uh discipline uh behaviors are reported to the state and the data is reviewed as part of our multi-tered multi-tered system of supports which you'll hear tonight as MTSS and by our district and our building leadership teams. So we're looking at this data uh at the building level and then also then at the district level. Next, just some challenges as we go through this. You might see some numbers like we increased 200 and some percent. And some of that time the the increases look big or even the decreases look big but it's just because there's a small number of incidents in some areas. So it's difficult to really evaluate data in those areas when there's uh small numbers for trends or patterns. And then the other thing just

081to keep in mind is our previous year's data. So data from last year um does not include any students who have withdrawn from the district. So, in our current system, um, as we're pulling numbers, if somebody withdraws, then their information leaves that system. So, we aren't able to really have those numbers with us. Moving forward, we will, now that we have these reports, we will keep that and be able to compare um the actual numbers. And the other piece just to make notice of, and I mentioned this in March, is that our buildings report data and our numbers differently. So that is something that will it just provides for us to some inconsistencies across the building and as we get through the data presentation that will be something that I mentioned that we are making

082some changes for >> before we move on from that. So why isn't behavior recorded the same at every school in the district. >> So that's a great question. >> Um I'll just it's it's how the programming is used. So our current system that we use powers school the log entries um and for example at the middle school once a teacher would input the data and the incident then what happens is the building has to and correct me if I'm wrong give me a nod or not but the building in order to keep that information there has to actually take the data copy and paste all the information into then their this is the incident that I'm going to get so they have to take it and almost do double the work to then act off

083of that. So that's what you see at the high school in Winchester Trail uh report and then they copy the data. At the middle school, it was easier not to have to do that extra step. So they definitely took it and they would convert it immediately into whatever the discipline would be. So when we say we report differently in the data, you won't see office referrals for the middle school because they take those office referrals and convert them into the discipline. So that information is lost in the system. Once we realize that it was being done differently, that's when we decided to make changes. But to make a midyear isn't going to help us. So moving forward, which again we'll talk about later, but moving forward, we are changing our behavior uh reporting system that

084will be able to provide us with the accurate data. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Great question. So, at Canal Winchester High School, the data we're going to be looking at here, uh, following these slides, um, again, like I mentioned, there is the office referral, and those are behavior data that is referred by a teacher or staff member to building administrators. And office referrals could result in discipline actions like alternative behavior placement or detentions. And then discipline is the behavior that resulted in a suspension or an expulsion. So as we're looking through the numbers the first slide and again throughout this whole presentation we have on the left side of the screen the semester one that's what you saw also in March and then on the right side is semester 2 and then the

085next slide you're going to see is year-over-year data for the purposes of this um for our as we go through the presentation we're going to look at the year-over-year uh but that information will be attached to the board agenda that you can review. So at the high school our data overview you can see here that we had a decrease in everything uh from discipline actions to the number of students who received discipline actions. We had a decrease in total office referrals and the number of students who had office referrals and uh the number of students who had a discipline action or office referral decreased. Um, in this instant, the positive that you have that we increased 3% is the percentage of students who only had one discipline action or office referral. And that's what you

086want. You want that number to go up. That means that only, you know, students are having an incident one time and then they're learning from whatever the uh discipline action that was given. And so they're not creating more discipline, which is what you want. >> And this slide is high school. >> This is high school. Yep. So we'll first start with high school. So you see there's definitely a drop across the board in the high school. Go on to the next slide again you'll see the data overview semester by semester. But if you move on to the year-over-year um we have our AIP which is our alternative behav behavior. It's what you would know as an inschool suspension. So basically instead of removing them from the school they would serve uh a time in a

087classroom where they're not out and about with the other students. So we saw a 1% decrease with our ABIP. Our suspensions did increase by 7% and our expulsions also increased by 60%. Again, if you look at these numbers, um the 60% expulsion is kind of not a great look because of this low numbers. However, we did see an increase of three additional students. The suspension with a 7% increase, we did suspend more kids uh year-over-year. Moving on then, when we talked about the state reportable incidents, these would be the state reportable incidents. So you can see year-over-year or I'm sorry semester by semester. Then when you go to year-over-year we had a decrease uh again by three students looks like 100%. For alcohol drugs we had a decrease of 52% from 33 to 16. Possession

088or use of weapons we had a you know six to three 50% decrease. Threats or act of violence did go up uh from 25 to 31 and the disruption of the educational process. I recall during first semester the question was asked how did we go from 26 to zero and what happened here is that specific uh disruption of educational process could be put in another area. So if it's a threat or violence or an act of violence in the past we could have called that an disruption of the educational process. So it's defining where we're putting those incidents. So this would be something that we would use if it's not a threat or a bite if it's not you know a dangerous instrument. And then as you go on, if it's not fighting, if it's

089not one of those other incidents. So it's not that we're not having disruption, we're just defining it in other areas. Looking again then the next steps here, you got acts of disrespect in subordination. That was a 19% increase towards a staff member. We had a 5% decrease for fighting and physical abuse of another student. 3% decrease on basically that's vaping. We don't really get a whole lot of cigarette smoking anymore, but that would be vaping. a 3% decrease. And then intimidation or bullying, we went from two to zero year-over-year. If you could go, there you go. So, some of our reflections from that data that you just saw, um, at the high school specifically, our discipline actions dropped. So, we did have a decrease. Our office referrals declined significantly. So, that even the referrals made

090by the teachers to the office are dropping. Um, we believe that that says that our building lever interventions that we put into place are working. We put in several of hallway sweeps this year. We had the change in cell phone policy and we had staff visibility and there is also a positive trend in the lower repeat offenders. Moving on to the middle school then again as I mentioned the office referral we don't track these. They won't be in the data. They actually we switch them over and then the discipline would be the same. That then is what discipline they received. So the same setup semester semester uh year-over-year our total number of discipline actions uh decreased from 563 to 479. So a 15% decrease. We also had a 15% in the number of students with

091discipline actions. Um and then the next three you can see the alternative learning center. Again that's the old school in school. Um kind of you're not in the uh flow with other students. You're kind of on your own. that decreased 16%. Our out of school suspensions decreased 11% and our expulsions increased 29%. Again, we went down two uh that actually decreased. I apologize. I put a plus there. So, that decreased. There's always one thing I miss when I'm looking over the presentation. Um then looking at the infractions and comparing those, again, the numbers are pretty low. Uh alcohol, we went from one to two, drugs, we went from two to five. So, those both were increases. Use of weapons we had from one to two. Another increase. We did have a decrease in threats of

092violence or actions of violence from 21 to five which was a 76% decrease. A disruption of the educational process 9% but that's pretty you know on the same 32 to 29. And then harassing or threatening a student was 10 to six. Next screen. Assaulting another student went from four to three. acts of disrespect in subordination of a staff member or school employee. You'll see here we had a significant increase. I can remember from first semester when we presented this data in March, we had some questions around that. However, it it did increase again in the second semester. So, that's something that we definitely need to focus on and and dive into what is happening there and why it's happening. Fighting and physical abuse at the middle school also increased uh from 25 to 40. And

093then again, vaping uh had a significant increase at the middle school from 1 to nine. and that increased 89% and our intimidation or bullying went down uh from two incidents to zero. So, some of our reflections at the middle school here, our year-over-year discipline incidents and number of students involved declined um and our out of school suspension and our alternate alternative learning placement declined. So, that's great. However, the disrespect and insubordination towards a staff member employee remains at a like a persistent issue for sure and it was noted in both semesters. Fighting physical abuse of another student increased and our vaping increased. Moving on to Winchester Trail. Again, the office referral and the discipline very similar uh to that of what the high school obviously a lot different when you're looking at the younger kids,

094but the office referral would be the behavior referred and the discipline is then what the discipline action is at the Winchester Trail that can include suspensions after school detentions in school alternative placements etc. So looking here year-over-year um at Winchester Trail we had drops in discipline actions um number of students and our total office referral or I'm sorry so our discipline actions and our number of students we did have an increase in our totus off total office referrals um but our number of students uh that also had those office referrals also increased. Um we did not have a percentage of students year-over-year. We didn't have the number from last year that only had one office referral. So, we were unable to figure that data out. Here you can see here uh year-over-year after school detentions,

095we use that very minimally. Uh emergency removals, we only had one both years. Our out of school suspensions went from last year at 52 to 7 and our inschool placement uh went from 0 to 34. I will share that if you go back one slide Nick if you don't mind. Um you can see first semester for our inschool discipline we had zero or we had one for this year and in the second semester we had 333. Um that was uh uh Dr. Dyer had found uh an a person that could cover that because he wanted to reduce the amount of times we were putting kids out of school. So that's that number. You can see that we didn't use it in the past which is why you saw an increase of its use. But then

096we didn't have to out of school system. >> Correct. Yep. So you had I mean we already had a decrease with out of school but also you kept them in school. Yep. >> Which is what we want to do if possible. >> Uh Winchester Trail reflections. Our discipline actions declined significantly indicating that we made major progress there. Uh referrals increased slightly. We did have new leadership at the building and uh they had a revamped again MTSS and RTI system that appears to be effective at that building. And moving on to Indian Trail and I forgot to change the picture. I'm just going to draw attention to it um because it's right there and that was a note to change. uh but office referrals uh so behavior that referred by a teacher or a staff member

097to a building administrator and discipline then in at Indian trail that means that behavior resulted in a discipline action we don't have notes on what that discipline action was so it wasn't in the system on what so it was just that there was discipline given uh the what we don't know but you can see here that we had I mean we discussed this at the last meeting we had significant um increases in behavior both discipline action the number of students that were uh receiving the discipline actions and the total number of office referrals and then those students that were getting it. So >> which which school is this? >> This is Indian drill. >> Yep. All right. Next one. So some of the reflections that we have here is there were significant year-over-year increases in

098both office referrals and discipline actions. Um one note is 19 students were responsible for the 35 discipline actions in the past school year. 24 25. Um the the one thing to note is there was in increase in the intensity and the frequency of challenging behaviors uh particularly in kindergarten. So one thing that we have not seen the behaviors that we saw this year at the intensity and the frequency that we did and so that definitely uh played in part to those discipline referrals. So, our action steps, um, as I mentioned, we are implementing a new behavior tracking system districtwide for the 2526 school year. So, one of the really good things about that is our current system limits us to the information that we put in. For example, if a teacher is entering behavior, they

099have to do the student name, what happened, and that's pretty much it. The other fields aren't required. Um, we want to dial in and put what time did it happen, where did it happen, who else was involved, so that we can start to really analyze the data and find out is it happening during lunchtimes, is it during class changes, is it in the morning, is it in the afternoon? So that then we can start to really make decisions on where we need to have adults or uh try to decrease the times that those students are there. Um, it will also allow for us to be consistent across the board with uh, you know, Dave's question at the beginning of why are you re doing things differently. This will streamline our process. Uh, the next thing

100with that being said, we will have an MTSS and our RTI system will be aligned across both Indian Trail and Winchester Trail Elementary. Um, Winchester Trail did have their, you saw their results. uh they had great uh results from that and so that's something that Indian Trail will also be implementing as well moving into next year uh for both the MTSS and our RTI systems. It does look s it does look different at each building but the structures will be in place. Uh the next one here the MTSS teams will focus on reviewing behavior and targeting supports. we do that already, but with the information that they'll have from our new reporting system, it'll allow them to really dive in to look at the things that we just discussed, where it's happening, what's happening, um,

101you know, and try to really reduce those behavior behaviors as they're happening. And then the last thing really specific to Indian Trail with the behaviors that we had and the increases, we are restructuring our special education and our behavior resources at Indian Trail. And so those restructures will allow us to have different resources, different options for our students so that when they are experiencing those behaviors that are a lot and different than we're used to, we have the supports in place to be able to uh provide them with resources and honestly the support that they need to learn how to um self-regulate and work through those behaviors so that we can then get them back into, you know, the classroom. That's our goal is that, you know, once we are able to address behaviors and

102they're able to move back into the system and they're there's not issues anymore in the big picture. >> So, will this be in place for the upcoming school year? >> It will. Yes. Yep. This will all be in place starting with the um 20 oh 2526 school year. Yep. Next slide, please. Questions? Are there any other questions? Awesome. Well, I appreciate you all taking the time and if there's any questions that you have once you review, uh, if you want to look at semester to semester, uh, please feel free. I know that the data presentation was one thing that Adam has asked, you know, um, and he has already mentioned he wasn't able to be here tonight, but he, I believe, is listening and that he, you know, will provide some questions as he has,

103but we appreciate that. All right, if you don't mind, I'm going to take a quick drink. All right. >> And are we moving on to the CW performing arts center and athletic facilities? >> We are. We're moving on to the next presentation. >> Yes. >> Uh which is just providing an update. Uh the last time in January, we presented to you the uh master facility planning and we went through the process of what was phase one, what was going to be phase two, and we talked through where we're at. We have spent the last month since then um meeting and discussing where we're going to go and I think we have a little bit more detailed information that we'd definitely like to share with you. So we'll start with the performing arts center. Last time

104we came to you this slide actually said 800 plus um and we have looked at the number and it will be 700 plus uh seat performing arts center and that currently let me start over before I move forward. Please understand that none of these decisions have been made. These are a work into what we want to have happen. We will need to bring it in front of the board. That will happen in September and that will have a price tag attached to it. So, as we're going through this, uh, we are working with Summit and Shore. They know where we stand with our budget. However, as we're talking, we're going off of the things that we really would like to have and think are, I won't say necessity, but some of these are a necessity.

105Others are, you know, hopes. And so I want to just mention that. So nothing in here is a final product, but we're getting closer. All right. So we'll move on to say that it will the performing arts uh center is developed with a fly space and the orchestra pit. It will have a multi-use lobby space. It will be connected to Canal Winchester High School and with that will be renovation and upgrades to the current music spaces including an addition of a theater classroom and it will also provide additional parking. So, I have here a slide um from our architects so that I can just it's the layout of the performing arts center. So, you'll see um the and I'm going to point but Nick, I see you have the mouse which is good. So, this

106area here, this light gray that's not gritted is actually the current building. So, we will add here you'll see the seating area, the PAC that's here and up above is the stage. So, it's a it's a pretty large stage that allows us to do a lot with it. And then the back there's a thin area that will be for storage. Um, and also changing rooms for the cast. Um, Nick, what's that that you're circling? Can you read it? >> Bathrooms for then the changing rooms. Um, you'll see that there's large doors. This will be a hallway that will be backstage. So, mainly for use uh for the theater kids, not those who would be coming to watch. Here would be our new theater. This space would have been like a basically grass area. So, we're

107making the use of it. Um, it will be able to be used if anybody went to one of the uh I forget what it was, but they did a performance on stage this year. So, the if you went to watch you actually sat on stage, those type of performances would be able to be smaller and be able to be used in this theater classroom. Um, we have a large lobby area that you see out here. We have new restrooms. And then we're also able to the current restrooms that are in the new wing that we opened just 21 believe. Um so we're able to take access to those which was nice because we didn't have to make the restrooms on the right side as large. Um and so the entrance from the high school would

108be through the new wing um here and then also there'll be several entrance entrances from the outside. >> Yeah, this is a great design. And we kind of ran into a snapoo on the uh other design to where it was interfering with our mechanical space. And this actually ended up >> Worked out better cuz then we could utilize this bathroom space and lock this up. So now you don't have access to the halls. Before we were going to have to do something gated or something to block off the halls. This is going to allow us to restrict access. And then it really opens up two full bathrooms. Um, which was highly needed. >> Yeah. And it a huge if we would have had to go through the equipment room, it would have been a huge

109cost of unseen. >> Uh, >> so then they they kind of added this little space right here to break it. It was cutting off somewhere in here and we were going to use this >> as an access point. We were going to have to circle around to the bathrooms. But now having direct out, you can see this wall comes out a little bit. That way it's a little bit private and kind of takes the sound down that way if you're in the restroom. Uh it's going to make it more like a private restroom for the PAC. >> So, >> thank you. >> Very smart designing by Sure. >> Yeah. >> All right, moving on to the next one. Here is our uh image of what it would look like. So, a rendering. Again, I know

110we showed a rendering um back in January, but this is actually different. One of the things that we really wanted to make sure is that no matter where you were around the building that when you saw it, it was uh pleasing on the eyes and welcoming. And so the next couple slides are different views that you will get from the performing arts center. >> You can kind of see there's going to be three different elevations here. This is the >> fly space, >> stage area, and that's the fly space, right? The higher >> Actually, the fly space is the stage area. I learned we went and visited Lancaster uh or Lancaster depending on and uh they have a very similar and I learned officially what a fly space was. So >> this is taller. Our

111mechanicals are going to go on the second story. Uh so you don't have to do roof units and put those together. So >> and Audrey, I'm right. Right. The fly space is above the whole stage. >> Yeah, I thought it was just a small part too, but it is all above. So really nice. All right. And then moving on the next slide. Uh one more. Here you go. So uh this one here again they have we have not done renderings yet for our what we will have it look like but again it is very similar to what Lancast Lancaster has put together. So this is I stole straight from their book. We went to visit and he had scanned me some images. So there this is a view from out looking in and then the

112next one will be from the stage looking out. We'll have again some changes. it. This does not mean that we'd have all this wood or that we would. Uh those are designs that we'll be able to pick, but we did not have renderings and we wanted to give an idea of of what the space would look like. All right. And if you recall, so because we're doing the poor performing arts center and that was going to take up some parking, we have to do some other pieces from the outside um areas. So from that, we will have additional parking that would be created. We will have a new traffic flow. We will have a band practice field that we'll have to move. Uh we will have a new baseball diamond, uh two new softball fields,

113additional green spaces, and we will be relocating the fuel pump. So again, those are all reminders of what was happening. Basically, because we put the PAC on, it is changing different things. So because of those changes, we were required to make some changes with all of this. Next slide. Additional outdoor improvements that we are also doing within the project. We will relocate, which we we talked about this a little bit, but we're relocating the drive and that will actually allow us to connect the drive from Deetsz all the way then to the drive back here behind the education center. Um, so it will connect the two campuses. Whereas currently, if you are on the football field side of the stadium, you can't drive around to get to the tennis court side of the high school.

114Uh, oh, real quick, go back. Yep. Thank you. We're relocating the football practice field. We're relocating the track and shotput discus area and we are adding two additional tennis courts. So the first one here is a um rendering of the baseball field. So the road that you see the little mouse going off of. Oh, he's getting that. Um there is Deets. So definitely doesn't look like Deets, but you can have an idea that's Deets Road. You'll see the football stadium road is out there. So this will take place currently. There is a J I I believe the JV softball field is out there. Um this will take place. It will have a press box uh with storage. It will have seating. It will also have the dugouts on both sides. Um and then it will

115have the batting cages, two batting cages and then the bullpens on both sides. So there'll be batting cages only on one side which would be the home side I believe. And then the batting the bullpens will be on both sides. Um currently and we're still we we really need to wait to see the number uh the dollar amount. Uh but we are talking turfing the infield uh and also potentially looking at tur turfing the entire field. Uh there's reasons for that. I know one of the the comments that came last month um was trying to get a timeline on, okay, can we play a season and get the field done by the time the next season rolls around. Uh one of the things that just looking around in the area, there's not really another baseball

116field that we can use. Uh so that puts us in a situation I do believe and we'd have to talk with the city, there are softball fields in town that we could use. So, if we have to be off for a season, um we could probably for softball it would create some just challenges if if baseball has to move. Um and one of the things we were told is that you need two growing seasons. So, I had asked the question, well, could we play this spring and then have it ready to go for next spring? And they said that only gives you one growing season. So, if you're playing on sod, you can do it, but you're going to do some damage to it if it doesn't have two years of growth. Um so we

117are going to look at different alternatives. They have shared that we will have that information on a timeline for sure by September meeting. Uh probably earlier but we've asked specifically to say is that something that we could have um and they're supposed to bring it back to us once they know a timeline. They do have one district that is currently they they called it kind of a pilot district that is doing just what we've asked. So they played on it this year. uh they the builders got it immediately after and they're told they have to have it ready for the next season. So, they'll have some idea, but we really want to make sure I don't want to spend to have a field that's great and then we damage it in the first season playing

118on it. But, we will definitely price out the turf for the full field, which if we get full turf, it's not an issue. It can play a season, we get full turf, and then we can play the next season on it. Um, >> are there I'm assuming there's restrooms in the press box or No, >> there are not. Okay. >> So, no restrooms there. And what about parking for the field? >> So, there is no parking on this side. There would be parking alongside Deets. Um, and you'll see a little bit later there is parking up where Nick has his mouse going back and forth. Okay. >> Um, it's not a huge amount of parking, but it's definitely parking. >> Okay. So, will the ADA, I guess, parking be on deets like it was at

119one point with Right. It will be right where Nick's >> cursor is at. Okay. Yeah, which is actually almost right where it's at right now. We've got two spots in there. >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> And then just reiterating, I know we discussed this before. Um we're going to ensure that the actual performing arts center will be ADA um accommodating and also the seats will be adequate. >> Yes, 100%. And actually, I'm glad you brought that up. Nick, can you go back to uh the inside uh We'll do this. Um, actually, keep going to the one picture >> there. >> Nope. Uh, like the one that was the drawing from right here. So, on this picture, actually, what we will have is one side um, I believe it is the side

120that you had over there where the doors go out. So, the one cool thing about the performing arts center is when you're back of stage, which again, learn something new. That means when you're in the back um and you're looking at the stage, it will be on the same level. So basically the seats will be built down and where you stand when you walk into the back of the performing arts center will be on the same level as the stage. So one side of this will actually be a full ramp that takes you up to the stage. So, you would be able to access the stage from you'd never have to leave the actual performing arts center and you'll actually be able to go straight on stage from the ramp that's off to the side.

121>> Uh, which is pretty cool. >> Up a ramp. >> And you don't have to go up. Correct. You don't have to go up a ramp. So, there there is a slight obviously um incline in the seating area. So, you may have to go back and around, but you would be able to access the stage from that area. Uh the other cool thing about it, um our architect Mike Dingledine is he's great, but he was really excited about this, he's like this doesn't happen, but he said it will also allow for the theater to use that as part of the stage. So for example, he g this made sense to me, but he said if you're doing Wizard of Oz, that could be part of your Yellow Burke Road because it's there. You can use

122it and it's not like separate from, it's a part of, which is just really cool. But yes, and seating will be something that when we get to that point, that's down the road, but we will definitely pick out quality seating. So, thank you. >> And our sound system will be really >> And the sound system will be great. Yes. Yes. And they're still working on that. They have experts that come in to help us with lighting and sound and all the things. All right. Thank you. Okay. So, there the baseball field. So, here comes then our softball field. Again, you can see the location. You can see where the performing arts center is from this. Um, and we're really excited about this. We're able to provide two softball fields, which is what we have now.

123Um, the press box will have views to both softball fields. Um, and again, the fields will look exactly the same. They'll both have the dugouts. The only difference will be the varsity field, which is actually the field to the left. The varsity field will have the uh, bullpens and the batting cages. The JV field would not have the bullpens and the batting cages. But other than that, if you go to the next view, you can actually see from a different view. This is probably my favorite picture that we have because you can see the softball fields. You can also look and see the practice football field. No, that's not turf. Um, but that would be our practice football field. And then you can see the performing arts center in it. And you can also see

124the baseball field to the right. Um, and then the fieldhouse, which we'll get to. But I love this picture because you can see the only thing it doesn't show which we'll get to here is like the band practice field and the tennis courts, but you can get such a good view of how this facility project is all coming together. Uh one more thing that I'd like to make a note on the softball field. So you we all got emails um from some of the homeowners uh that live back behind the current baseball field and this layout actually they should not have a ball in their yard period because of where the location of it is. Um if somebody hits a they'd have to hit a shot to make it into the yard and that would

125be home runs and it's going to happen. It would have to be a shot. So I think that's something that um I did share. They have not seen the actual layout of it, but the ones that were contacting us, I did share and they were very happy to hear that. So, we were able to take that into consideration and it actually, I think, works better because it is closer to parking. All right. Next, we have um here we have the fieldhouse. Uh the fieldhouse will include a 50 by30 turf field. If you remember when we first came to you, it was 60 by 60 and it had everything in it. And we'll kind of talk through why there's some changes to that. It will have a large locker room, an athletic training room. It will

126have office space. It will have uniform storage, which is something that we had discussed was a pretty big need. Uh we'll have a team meeting room, film room, VIP room. Uh we also will have a VIP patio and additional parking. Uh updates to our current stadium facilities. So those would be the current concession stand, locker room area, and then our current weight room and turfs. We would update those. Uh those would include remodel of the current home and visiting locker rooms, addition of individual shower bathrooms, updating official coaches office space, updating the training room, expanding the current weight room, and addition of a golf room with two simulators. So here is a layout that you would see of the fieldhouse. So the 50 by 30 foot turf, which is the green and the blue, the

127light blue you'd see that would be the locker room. That's going to be for large teams. So, you would be looking at football in the fall and the track team um in the spring. It will have uh the training room that's there in the middle of part of the pink. And then you see the classroom down below. Off to the left, the purple is the uh uniform storage that would be upstairs. And then down to the bottom, the left is just the air the basically uh I believe it's the air conditioning. >> Yeah. Which will actually have a nice fence around it. >> I think this goes over this area. area right here, right? >> Yeah. >> So, then the next view, uh, we have the current concession stand area and locker rooms. So, the

128front two you actually have, uh, will be remodeled into two smaller locker rooms. That's currently the home, the football locker room. That would give us more locker room spaces for soccer, uh, for some of our lacrosse. So, our sports that are in the stadium would be able to have access there. Um, you would have then a walkway that takes you through. Uh, we would remodel like I mentioned the visiting locker room and the the spaces that we have in there would be remodeled. They went through this building and looked and the foundation that it has is very strong. Like it's a great space. We just need to look at it. We will not touch the restrooms. Uh, we might they don't need much, but we might paint them, but there's not any construction to that

129or the concession stand area. And then here's a visual of the uh fieldhouse that you would see looking at it from if you're flying a drone over deets looking down on it. One thing that I want to make note of is that when we do the project, we want to make it that it's almost one facility. So it's almost all on one campus. So you'll notice that when you build it, it'll all look very similar and it's almost like it's connected. It's not connected. However, under each one there'll be doors that walk you through and a cover. So although you will have to walk outside for a couple steps, it will still allow you to feel like you're in the same area. Um, so this space then would be uh to the side. It's currently

130in the hill. Um, and to the right, if I'm sitting in the stands, it would be to the right of the current stands where the students are sitting. Um, and that's the parking lot. Then you can see that would be could be used for baseball. Um, and also then for uh, you know, if they're going into workout or whatnot. >> ADA. >> And it is ADA. Yep. All of this will be ADA. So, here's a vision of the fieldhouse with the turf area. You'll notice that there are the screens that would drop down from above that would allow us to have different sports teams in there at different times for uh, privacy, so to speak, or safety. Um, it will also have the baseball, the softball net, the hitting nets that would come down that

131we would be able to have. It will be temperature controlled, but at a certain temperature. It's not going to be air conditioned down to like 65 degrees, but it would be enough so that if we have those hot spells during the summer, we can knock it off a bit. Um, and then the classroom that we would have, the team meeting room here, you can see it. Um, this would be right now we're naming it the Indians meeting room. We could talk through that, but this will be the classroom. Um, the door that you see to the right would be into the turf area. So that would most likely be where the football team will exit out to go to the field. Um, but this gives you an understanding of what that would look like. Um,

132we also talked that on our game nights when we're doing different celebrations. So, uh, you know, Hall of Fame, this could be an area where we host that and allow for um, not only a place to have it inside, but then also a place to go out and watch the game. The next one then would show uh, another view of the field with that uh meeting room and you can see the patio and then the next one is a like point of view from that patio. So your viewing experience is going to be very good. You're able to see the whole field. So we envision >> the board members >> um that board members could be a possibility. Um but it would give us an opportunity to do different events and you know have them

133and be able to host. So we're really excited about that. Again, I didn't mention this, but that all of this comes with also the bleacher expansion that would happen on both the home and the visitor side. Um, and then this here is our master site plan. You can see the whole vision, the whole version, um, in one place. So, it allows you to see the fieldhouse, uh, the new baseball field. You still get some green spaces, which we have just outlined as green spaces. So, those could be the soccer practices or, uh, whatnot. There is a detention pond. This will not be wet for the majority of the time, but it will be wet when it's heavy rain. So, it's typically you won't even know it's there, but when there's heavy rain, it will be

134where the water stands. Uh, you have your field events that's to the left of that. Moving down to the practice football field, and you can really see the drive here, too, that goes from Deets all the way down outside of the parking down and then cuts over. Um and then you see the two the additions of the two tennis courts which would give us eight. Um and the band practice field. >> Yeah. And having the ability to do the detention pond here saved us about three4 of a million dollars before it was over here and it was going to be an underground. We were going to have to get it out to Washington which was going to >> be a small challenge. Um, so moving it over here not only saved us a lot of

135money, but it opened up a really a better site for the softball field to go because before it was over more near the maintenance barn. It was kind of splitting the maintenance barn with the maintenance barn in the middle. So I think it gives us a better sight and gives us a much better area for the detention pond. It's just naturally where that's like apparently the lowest spot on this whole site. So it works out really well. Almost worked out perfectly. Um, so we got lucky there kind of with the site. >> Will it be tied into the drain? >> No, I think it'll be a drain that's in just in the center. Um, Mike can probably speak more. >> It will be tied into these All right, any questions? >> Yes. Can you review

136the time frame again for phase one and phase two? >> Yes. So phase one is what we're working on now. It's really been our focus and the the what we're shooting for right now is that it will be ready for the start of the 2728 school year. That's the safest bet. There is some talk that the performing arts center might be ready earlier, but it's safe to just say um you we most likely are hoping for ground movement to start in like January, February. >> So this summer you'll start to see a lot happening, but we we won't see anything happening until January. >> We're ahead of the game from a um architect standpoint. We're in the schematic design phase, but I feel like the drawings are a little beyond schematic design. So schematic design

137is you they they take all your thoughts, everything you want to do, and then CMR puts their budget to it, the architect puts their budget to it, and then they reconcile and bring it to us, and they let us know. And at that point, we're either good, we're good to go forward, or a lot of times you might be over budget. Um, or sometimes you're under budget, and then we can make adjustments based off of that. And then they'll get into design development where it's more detailed. Um, so it's not just, hey, here's a table. The table's going to have six chairs. It's going to have USB ports and all of that. So, and then they'll do another budget based off of that. But all all along the way, you will approve the schematic design

138budget in September and then you'll approve the design development budget couple months later and then we'll have construction documents and take it out to for a guaranteed max price. So we'll have a couple opportunities kind of touch base with the market to make sure we're on track to actually do it along the way so that way you don't have any surprises once you get the construction documents. By the time we get the GMP we know about 99% that it's going to cost X. So there shouldn't be any surprises. And most of the time your bids come in under GMP because they're going to estimate over a little bit. And that allows us to maybe add some contingencies. Maybe at that point we say, you know what, let's just turf the full baseball field if money's

139available or turf the full softball field or whatever it may be. So hopefully we're in that situation and we're not having to trim back and reduce things. >> Okay. Thank you. >> And wouldn't we say phase two? Phase two is is all contingent on growth. >> So we would be looking at and again with our conversation today, but that came also with knowing what property taxes and what the bonds falling off would do. So I think right now that would we're and in our presentation we were looking that would be >> minimally 5 years down the road probably what did we say 2032 is when the bond falls off. So, the timing of that, there's also other small changes that we talked about when we were talking about phase one, just to mention, but we

140talked about the basketball. Uh, we were going to remove some bleachers so that the basketball team and the volleyball team can sit on chairs in front of the bleachers. That's already happened. Uh, so that's already taken place. Um, we talked about potentially updating the locker rooms and the indoor space and then also the um ox gym becoming the wrestling gym. And so those are already things that we're taking into into account and looking into. >> And I know Mike, you've done some work on the middle school football field in the offse. Uh the basketball court at the middle school is done. They're coming out and resanding a little bit on Wednesday and then that's ready for the school year. If you haven't seen it, go look at it. It's great. >> Yeah, it looks great.

141>> It's really much lighter in that gym with the light gray walls and the much lighter floor. Everything was dark before. >> Now it's really light. looks very sharp. >> Y um and that is one thing again, middle school football will move back to play middle school football at the middle school. >> Um what's the timeline? Do we have to go back before zoning or council to get any kind of final approvals? I'm assuming we will. >> Yeah, there there'll be permits along the way. Um but cities The city's been very accommodating um >> with this project. So um >> they've been working with them, touching base with them at pivotal points. >> Yeah, there's communication happening both ways. So it's been really nice. >> Well aware that they need to stay ahead of the

142game. Um so they are and I think the city appreciates that. So like I said, I think we're a little bit ahead from a design standpoint. We just need to hopefully Summit can wrap up their other project and maybe get out here a little sooner and break some ground and get the site at least moving some dirt. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Of course. >> Next on the agenda is public comments. Um do we have any? >> We do not have any public comments today. >> Great. Thank you. Um moving on. and next thing on our agenda is our executive report. Um CWJRD >> treasur >> I'm sorry the treasures reports first >> uh I'll be brief uh year over year this is this is the easiest report uh because we

143can actually look at it how we did on performed on the uh on the fiscal year um you can see year-over-year where are we right here um revenues are going to look like they're up tremendously um Miss Reynolds kind of alluded to u the DPIA funding that we picked up. That was strategic on our part uh to add that. You can see we lost in state funding. Um but we also saw that coming as well knowing the formula wasn't going to change. Um so that's why we did the DPIA the C with the C program. That's why we did full day kindergarten when we did it. Um and you can see that real estate values did pick up because it was a full year um after the reappraisal. It was the first full year of

144collections for us. Um this will streamline down especially if the emergency levy gets consolidated into the 20 mil floor and especially if the emergency levy is forced to go down um and not be renewed in in five years. really the collapsing of the emergency levy into the 20 mil floor is going to stunt any growth that we have. Um so right now we're at the 20 mil floor and the and the emergency levy is separate. So the emergency levy's decreasing but it's not impacting the floor. So we will see growth at 20 ms on our existing. If we add the emergency levy to it, we won't see any growth. It will just add the 8 ms to the 20. So we'll be at 28 ms instead of 20. So every time values go up, we'll

145just reduce down from the 28 and we really won't see that much growth. Um, so that's the only real impact of the emergency levy. Um, lucky for us, the reappraisal for Franklin happened two years ago, so we were able to at least sustain some of this. But in direct comparison, when we received this, this went down from 22 million. So we really didn't gain. we just took away from real estate taxes or took away from state and gave it to real estate. I mean, so it wasn't really an increase. Um, and then all other revenues are up. A lot of that's warehouse, a lot of that's interest earnings. Um, property tax allocation goes right in line with this. So, as as property taxes are up, this is the state reimbursing uh for the 12 and

146a half% homestead and roll back. So, that's expected to be up. income tax up nine and a half percent 637,000 if you remember last year we were down slightly it was off trend I think we're back to trend wages continue to be up um but this will be the last substantial year for probably property tax growth uh and we won't definitely see a growth in in these two lines uh next year so we're going to be pretty stagnant in revenue other than us trying to create other revenue probably for the for foreseeable two or three years coming forward. So, we're going to have to pretty much learn to live on about 64 million for probably a while, which we spent 62.9 of that was 6.5 of transfers. We went ahead and transferred five years uh

147of the debt payment. Uh we're going to have some transfers moving forward, mostly from food service. We're going to range from 550,000 to 700,000 because of the C program because we're losing money in food service. Uh, but that was worth it when we were gaining 2.4 million. So, we're still a one point net net gain and all of our kids are eating for free. So, we still want to continue that as long as we can. U, we're technically in that program for three years regardless unless we could somehow get a waiver. Not expecting to do that. No matter what happens in the state budget, I think having the free lunches is well worth it um to at least go through the full C program. uh then we can analyze it after that once once we're

148done with that. And we may not even qualify because they're changing the rules again. So we may not even qualify in the next C anyway. So we'll have to evaluate that in two years. Um expenditure wise, we knew we were going to be up in salaries. A lot of that is us bringing $3.5 million back of ESER. So 3.5 of this 8.9 was directly from Esser. And then the other pieces were changing the salary schedules pretty drastically um for C.WEA. Um but all of those things were needed and we knew it was going to happen. Otherwise, we were pretty stable in supplies and purchase services. Um we brought the mechanics in house, so we saved about $450,000 there. Um, and then throughout the other budget line items, we we had some some uh decreases on

149purchase services. Um, and that's where we're going to try to stabilize things. Um, because we're not looking to do anything here. And regardless of the budget when it happens, we're not making changes in the coming year. We may tweak a few things here and there, but it will be uh non-impactful to people, will be non-impactful to staff. Um, anything that we can do to not impact the educational value is what my goal will be. Um, I don't know where we'll be next year, but I don't expect us to have to do a ton more. Um, but we'll make some little tweaks to try to offset out into the future. Um, but at the end of the year, we were right on target with the forecast 40.65 million. uh overall cash sitting with 93.2. Now that's

150driven up by we borrowed 14 million. So that's debt proceeds that are sitting there helping to drive that up. Also uh that money will will disappear once we start paying on the project. Uh we're earning interest on that right now. Expect to earn about 800,000 from the bond proceeds and we'll we'll apply that directly towards the project. Uh it will be a part of the budget. um 2.73 million earnings on interest this year. Another good earnings years. That's what I was speaking to with Senator Reynolds. If you started to cut and force people to lose the cash balances, you start losing pretty significant revenue. And it would almost be more detrimental than the state budget. If you were to lose, I mean, if we were to go from saying 70 million to having to shrink

151our investments to 40 million or 30 million, you're losing substantial revenue on the earnings. So, it would probably be more impactful than even the state funding. But combine all those things, then we it kind of gets your attention a little bit. So, any questions on on the fiscal year? Um forecast is changing. I haven't quite looked at it yet. I know it's not going to be in November now. It's I think in August. Uh it's not a fiveyear. It's a fouryear. Uh technically they're calling it a threeyear with the current year which is really makes it a fouryear. Um so we'll have to look at that. But I plan to continue to maybe show a fiveyear. Um at least we'll have an idea. uh because I I I do a 10 year on the back

152end anyway just to kind of make sure we're we're trending in the right direction. Um so any questions uh for fiscal year 25? That's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Up next is our superintendent reports. >> All right. We talked about this earlier, but we are gearing up to welcome our students and our staff back for the 2526 school year. Our new staff will begin orientation on August 4th and all returning staff will return for their work days on August 7th and 8th. Convocation will take place on Monday, August 11th and the first student day is Tuesday, August 12th. We do have our back to school guide live and on the website and that will include everything that our families need, important dates, staggered start details, checklists, supplies, and more. We're also

153reminding families to complete their back- to-school forms and transportation request in P school by August 1st to ensure students are placed on a bus route uh before the route information is released on August 5th. In exciting news, which Nick mentioned, all students will continue to receive free breakfast and lunch this year thanks to our participation in our community eligibility provision. We look forward to another great school year filled with growth, connection, and opportunity. That concludes my report and thank you all for your continued support. >> Yay. >> Um, next um is our board committee reports. Um, CWJRD. >> Yep. So, for CWJRD right now, uh, open registrations. There are several performing arts workshops. um if you're interested in any performing arts whatsoever, we've got some really good workshops going on this summer um and going

154into the fall. So, also have the IRS sound bath. I know that sounds really cool and interesting. Please take a look at it because it is. Uh karate is also open right now and yoga in the park. And then the uh annual CWJRD kind of summer get together party uh right now that is scheduled for tomorrow night. Nope. Wednesday night. Um, but that might be moving uh depending on weather. So, look for uh if you're interested in going uh which I hope you all are, take keep an eye on the website just in case it gets rescheduled because of weather. >> Where's it going to be this year? >> It is going to be um in the big grass area back behind Stradley Park. No, I'm sorry. In the education center area. In the grass

155education center area. Right. >> Yes. Yes. >> Is that where it was last time? >> The education center area. >> Yes. >> The same place it was last time, >> I believe. So, >> you were on board last year. >> I didn't know what I don't know that's what it's called. That's what I'm more concerned about. Like, >> yes. >> Okay. >> Because if it was the same place, then that is what it's called. >> And they're going to have uh many more um bounce houses this year. uh still gonna have the um the ice. If you wear if the kids wear their jersey, their their JRD jersey, then they get a free um like a icy type drink. There's going to be some limited food vendors there. Uh we'll also be collecting if anybody's

156got any gently used sporting equipment, we'll be collecting that for the JRD rummage cell as well. So, uh, any of the athletes in the room, uh, or listening, any of the ath parents of athletes, if you've got any gently used equipment, please bring it. >> Um, OSBA, >> yes. Um, my report will be brief this evening, uh, considering the conversation, discussions we've had with Senator Reynolds. Um, I concur with our C.WEA presenters as far as the state budget. Um, so I'm not going to be redundant. Um, I just want to highlight again that the Ohio House is scheduled to meet on Monday, July 21st at 11:00 a.m. to consider uh overrides uh veto overrides for three line items. Um, in totality, Governor DeWine had uh uh vetoed 67 line items. Um, but as of now,

157there's three that will be um under consideration for the veto overrides. Um, >> are all those to do with schools? >> All of them. Those three have to deal with property taxes. Yeah, those three items that Senator Reynolds um discussed And I'm just asking for folks to join me in contacting their state representative, asking them to vote no. And that's all that I have. >> Thank you. Um, student achievement. >> Nothing to report. >> Next on the agenda is the consent agenda. Um motion for the approval of the consent agenda. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Okay. We'll start first with uh number two is the minutes from the June 9th regular meeting and the June 13th special meeting and the June 26 special meeting. Number three is donations. We have two donations from Scott

158Wyel for the mini pitch at Winchester Trail and Indian Trail. Number four is our certified purse. >> Do we have a timeline on that? I know >> it actually is the um Mike, the concrete's laid and it's in. Do we know when the >> end of the week? >> Awesome. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Very cool. >> Uh yep. Okay. Thank you. So number four then we have our certified personnel. We have our resignation and retirements. Uh all those are resignations. Moving on to our teach teacher recommendations. We do have several of our teacher recommendations um that we are asking you to approve and then approving extended days uh for next year for school psychologist. Number five is our classified personnel. Again, we have our resignations um and then we have classified recommendations as well

159and our substitute classified recommendations. Moving on to number six is our sub our supplemental and our personnel stipens. And again, we have resignations. Uh we do most of those resignations are actually changed throughout. Again, just as a reminder, we make changes because we're changing uh the process that we have for hiring our coaches and adviserss. So, there will be some of those uh changes with resignations and then also rescending of contracts. Um, but then we also are hiring in several other four one-year supplemental contracts for next school year. And the majority of those are for fall uh sports. And we also are approving our volunteers. And number seven is our substitute pay rates. So this is something annually that we approve which would be our substitute pay rates. And there are no changes. I don't

160believe there are changes from different approvals at last year. Uh and we will although we will be updating uh van driver pay oh a few pay van driver pay, bus driver pay and custodian to fall on their classified salary schedule at level one. >> Do we need to take a separate motion for number seven? I see there's a motion on here for that one. >> No. >> Okay. just a >> Y. >> And that's all we have for our uh consent agenda. >> Any questions? >> Take a vote. >> Mr. George, >> yes. >> Mrs. Tally, >> yes. >> Miss Barnes, >> yes. >> Miss Green, >> yes. And next on our agenda is action items. Um the employment administration personnel Kevin Freeman Jr. Um a motion to approve the employment of Kevin Freeman Jr.

161as the assistant principal of Canal and Chester High School on a two-year contract administrative salary schedule category 4 level two. uh 101 uh uh beginning August the 1st, 2025. U motion, please. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All right. Thank you. We're excited to um welcome Kevin. Kevin comes to Canal Winchester High School from Westerville South High School, uh where he his experience as a high school math teacher was complemented by meaningful leadership opportunities. He served in a principal observer role, allowing him to shadow school leaders and gain valuable insight into day-to-day school operations. In addition, he led buildingwide equity initiatives focused on improving access, inclusion, and student success. These experiences have equipped Kevin with the skills and perspective necessary to contribute effectively to the administrative team at Canal Winchester High School. So, we're excited

162to have Kevin here. >> Thank you. Can we take a vote? Are there any questions? Okay. Can we take a vote? >> Mr. George? >> Yes. >> Miss Green? >> Yes. >> Miss Barnes? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tally? >> Yes. >> Next on the agenda is the contract Fairfield County um school resource officer. >> I make a motion for that. >> Second. >> All right. Thank you. So, this would be uh an annual uh contract. It would just continue on where we're at currently for specifically this specific contract is for uh our high school resource officer that's currently there. >> Questions? >> Does this contract also take into account the training requirements for the one that we have at the elementary school? >> Uh I believe so. So he goes through the SR training. Is

163that what you're the one that's annual? Yes. Yes. That is something that we cover. Okay. Okay. >> That particular >> So that's a separate that's not under this contract. Okay. >> Separate and we pay that position directly hourly rate. >> Right. Okay. Thank you. >> Good question. >> Um we take a vote. >> Miss Barnes. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tally. >> Yes. >> Mr. George. >> Yes. >> Miss Green. >> Yes. >> Okay. And next on the um action items is the contract for uh truency officer. Make a motion for uh superintendent to enter into a one-year contractual agreement with Franklin County common police division domestic relations and juvenile branch for truency officer services for 2025 2026 school year for a maximum of 31,262. a second. >> Second. >> All right. Thank you. So, this

164is something that we've had now. I believe we've had the relationship for five or six years. Um, it is a relationship with the Franklin County Common Police Court and they provide us with a truency officer. They split the cost. So, she is with us uh full-time pretty much throughout the school year. And, um, she does, I believe, one day a week attend court when needed. But um it's been a really great working relationship and she handles all of our uh you know attendance and concerns that we have there with that. So >> we're excited to continue it for another year. >> Question. >> You take a vote. >> Miss Barnes, >> yes. >> Miss Green, >> yes. >> Mr. George, >> yes. >> Mrs. Tally, >> abstain. >> Okay. passes three three. The next one

165is um the contract for private tuition. >> A motion for that. >> Second. >> All right. And this is for a private tuition to educate students who attend youth villages and Fairfield County Board of >> DD. >> Yeah. What is it? developmental >> developmental disability. I was Yeah. >> Yep. >> Um and that will allow us to place students there. >> Okay. >> I would take a vote. >> Miss Barnes? >> Yes. >> Mr. George? >> Yes. >> Miss Green? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tally? >> Yes. >> Um discussion items. There's a discussion item on here for state budget. Is that >> Yes. So, I included that. Um, I believe that we were able to have good conversation already uh with Senator Reynolds here. So, I'm not sure that that's needed uh but wanted to

166provide the space in case uh you know something came up that we weren't able to address and allow us the opportunity. But I do believe that we were able to share great thoughts with her and um yeah, so I don't believe this is needed, but if anybody else would like to just have any other discussion, it is there in case. I I just wish that we could get to more of our constituents. Um I think there's a um the word town hall insinuates in-person town hall. insinuates being able to come have a community come together and talk about what we all want to discuss and what we all think we could use and what we need in our community and that's the purpose of a town hall and a telet town hall represents a totally

167separate thing. It is very controlled and um it prevents people from being able to respond to the questions, see who asked the questions, understand the questions and it limits if we only had four questions answered the last time in a one-hour meeting and this time we're going to have two people there um in the same one hour in another oneh hour meeting. I'm just concerned as to how many of our constituents will really be able to have that conversation um and be able to open up and ask the questions that are really important to our community um for this budget. And so that's the only thing I want to say about the budget is that I just would like to see our representatives come to our communities more often and talk to the community um

168in a public forum that allows people to ask the questions that are really on their minds. Does is there anything else anybody wants to add? Thank you for allowing that into the agenda. Um the next thing is um closing items. Um adjournment. U motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. >> Second. >> You take a vote. >> Mrs. Tally? >> Yes. >> Mr. George? >> Yes. >> Miss Barnes? >> Yes. >> Miss Green? >> Yes. >> 916.