001All right. Good evening everybody. Thank you all for coming. This meeting is a meeting of the board of education in public for the purpose of conducting the school district's business and is not to be considered a public community. As indicated on the agenda, we're going to call to order and we'll do the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Roll call, please. Michelle. >> Mr. Clouse, >> here. >> Mr. Schliker, >> here. >> Mr. Huber, >> here. >> Mrs. Summer, >> here. >> Mr. Hillsman, >> here. >> Five members present. Okay. Before we set the agenda, do we need to make any adjustments? >> No. >> Okay.
002Can I get a motion to set the agenda, please? >> So, moved. >> All >> Carl. Thank you. >> Mr. Claus. >> I. >> Mr. Schliker. >> Yes. >> Mr. Huber. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Summer. >> I. >> And Mr. Hillsman. >> Hi. >> Okay. Started off with uh Sherry and Tresy. I did not see either one of them in here. Um, next. Kent, did you have anything as far as the Oak City >> acting today? >> All right. Thank you. >> Phil, can we get a facilities update, please? >> Absolutely. Uh, we'll start with the the elementary school. Um, they finished the trench drain out front of the dumpsters. Um, so that is now complete. The brick work should be con concluded this week. Um, they're working on that. Um the grass areas, all
003the grass areas where the grass didn't come in all that well, that's all been overseated and fertilized now. And they're scheduling the door operator outside of testing. There's a handicap door operator going into the wellness area. So that's scheduled about the beginning of May is when that's scheduled to go in. Um regard to the high school or hanging and finishing drywall in the cafeteria. um block filling and painting in the cafeteria, the gyms, music room, and career tech. So, it's again they're working their way north. Um they're working on plumbing, mechanical, electrical, and technology rough ends on the first, second, third floors. Third floor, they're just down to the final plumbing fixture. So, a lot of those were in the science, you know, science labs. They all have individual um plumbing, gas, and electric in
004their workstations. um continue to install case work and countertops on the second floor. The case work for the first floor that has arrived this past week. So, installation will begin this week. Um they're installing wall tile. The Wayne's coating on the second floor. Third floor is done. Third uh second floor is now going in. The ceiling grid um is now complete on the first floor. The site work pretty much all around the building mostly to the west. Um you've seen them working on driveways exiting out here on Wayne Street. So the site work on the west side that's ongoing. Continuing duct work and piping in the cafeteria the music corridors. Um they they polished the floors. They look phenomenal in the art rooms. So instead of putting a vinyl tile, it's just polished concrete. They
005look really nice. Um continuing sidewalks on the south side of the building along with light holes and conduit. Installing vinyl tile on the third floor. Um, several doors on the third floor have been installed. So, the classroom doors are now installed and some of the small group rooms working on the small group rooms like the media center has a glass storefront. Um, so those are going in and the doors and the side lights around all of that. Um, they started the elevator this past week. So, installation there is ongoing. They started installing gym equipment um in the uh in both gyms, competition and the auxiliary gym. Um the sidewalk or the site work is improving rapidly. Um you can see curves and sidewalks just like a beer overnight. I mean it's phenomenal entryways and driveways.
006Um you can see those are cutting in and they're taking out some of the old they're replacing sidewalks. So they're working on this out here kind of out in front of the high school as well. And then like I said light pole bases and conduit to those bases are now being run. They're finishing up that work as well. So, moving along really well. >> Any questions for Phil? >> Is it possible to get your own pictures sometime of the new parking new parking areas and stuff? >> No, I need to ask. I I actually was trying to get some um third floor pictures down of the sidewalk and they have all the windows taped off because they were spray paint. Spray paint. >> It's just curiosity. >> Yeah. No, I was surprised. Um they're probably
007due up for one. So, I'll bring it up. Got a meeting tomorrow. I'll mention that. >> Hey, Phil. Right at the main entrance, >> but it's it's not finished around there. What's going in there? >> There's like green above, but down below. >> Okay. Um storefront. It's glass storefront. It's not like the front of this building. It's the aluminum frame with glass. >> Okay. >> So, yeah. >> Any other questions for Phil? Thank you, Phil. >> Before we go on to public participation, I want to thank some people. Last Tuesday, we had that storm roll into Salina and the custodians were here. They called in some reinforcements and uh the flooding that we had here. I want to thank these people for coming in after hours to help. Donna Kers, Ethan Snyder, Christy and Jay
008Nelson. Christy, thanks for dragging your husband in with you. Um Jeff Everman, Kent Wicker, Aaron and Cindy Bowser. Guys, thank you. If it wasn't for you guys coming in, we would have had a huge problem. I know it was big, but you guys minimized it. And I want to publicly thank you guys all for stepping up, coming in after hours to help with that. So, thank you very much. Okay. Uh, we got one signed up tonight for public participation. Teresa, if you would state your name and address and uh like always, we have three minutes. >> Good evening. I'm Teresa Howick, uh 7541 State Route 197 Salina. Um my first question is under the uh attachment number one there's uh for the hires for the new uh principal high school principal um his expected date
009is August 1st 2025 um >> that's a title >> thank you Teresa >> is that a misprint >> that is a misprint >> thank you >> just wanted to make Um, then I know we're going to be discussing the uh field uh the football field, whether we're going to get turf or natural grass or however you want to say it. Um, I'm kind of wondering why we're going to be discussing that now because we're last I heard we're not really sure when that's all going to be over. Um, we the last I heard we don't have the money to do that unless of course we do have the money to do that. You guys know that it's going to move faster than the five to 10 years that I've been hearing. So, um I would
010like for some of that to be in part of your discussion today as to whether we're moving this up, um and why we're discussing it so soon. >> That's it. Thank you. >> Thank you, Teresa. >> Okay, Michelle. On to the treasures report. >> Okay. Excuse me. Um, the first item I have this evening, excuse me, is to approve the minutes of the March 23rd meeting. The second item is to approve the March cash summary report, which shows revenues of 7,79,469.58 and expenditures of 7,439, $17.35. The next is the cash reconciliation report for March. Um the balance was 67,300,965.84 and of that $33,691,169.52 is for the building projects. Also, I would like you to approve the excuse me the checks written for the month of March. And the fifth item is to approve the FY26
011permanent approvement permanent approvement permanent appropriations as presented. Number six is to accept the following donations. $1,000 from DND Truckland Trailer Service to TriStar Egg Industrial Program for jackets. $500 from Wendle Poultry Service to TriStar Egg Industrial Program. $500 from Schliker Farms to Salena FFA for the banquet. $500 from Salena Moose for the FFA banquet. $5,000 from the Eagles for the TriStar Law and Public Safety Program. $1,000 from the Moose to Elementary for student incentives for Ohio State testing. $500 from the Eagles for the same the state testing breakfast at the elementary. 18,000 from Gene Gene Hos Foundation for Tristar Manufacturing and Machining Technologies and Engineering Programs for Scholarships and tools. A toolbox with tools valued at $4,210 from Chickasaw Garage in Napa to be given as a scholarship to a returning junior in the Tristar
012Automotive Tech program. And the last item is to approve the GMP GMP08 for the high school abatement and demo. And that is all I have. Does anyone have any questions? >> Would it would it be a good idea to explain to the public what this number seven is so they know what's going on? >> Who wants to do that? >> I don't have the breakdown for my if I remember correctly. Well, it's for the de demolition of the high school >> and the contract sum the total of the contract is $94,23.93, right? >> Which is an estimate of the cost of the work. >> Yes. >> Um and the construction manager's contingency plus their fees. >> And then there's a breakdown like the cost of the work is $873,624. Um then personnel costs are 50
013roughly 54,000 and general conditions cost is $9,000. Um all work the construction manager proposes to provide through subcontractors is in the amount of $811,000. >> Um >> now and correct me if I'm wrong guys. The abatement will start this summer. >> Yes. In the class. >> That's what I wanted to bring up. Yes. >> So, >> classrooms will be moved out and Phil hop in here if I'm saying something wrong. They will clear the classrooms. They will bait the flooring >> and they will move the the classrooms back in for this up for the 2026 2027 school year. >> But, you know, that will accelerate um the the demo process once the move is complete. >> Right. >> Am I saying that correctly on that? >> Correct. >> Yeah. We're we're in essence we're cooperating
014with Petersons to help them get this abatement done quicker by moving the high school teachers around. This is another thing for the high school teachers to deal with. I wanted the public to understand that that they have to move their classrooms, clean them out so that the floor can be removed and the concrete polished and then they'll move back in to start the next school year. That's all I wanted. But I wanted the public to understand that. >> Okay. >> And that's in order to be prepared to move early if we need to. >> Well, it's the demolition. >> It speeds this whole thing. >> It helps with the demolition of the high school and the timing of it. It's something they can do in the summer and and get that out of the way.
015>> Yeah. >> Okay. Any other questions for Michelle? >> Thank you, Michelle. >> Can I have a motion, please? >> I'll make a motion. >> I'll second. >> Okay. Carl John. Thank you, >> Mr. Mr. Klouse. >> Hi, >> Mr. Schliker. >> Yes, >> Mr. Huber. >> Hi, >> Mrs. Summer. >> Hi. >> And Mr. Hillsman. >> Hi. >> And I'm sorry, it goes without saying really, but we're so thankful for all these donations. This is quite a list of donations here >> that we're getting from the public for these programs. >> Month in and month out, we have a fantastic community that continues to support the schools and we are very thankful. >> So, okay, Mrs. Guestler. >> Okay. So, the first item underneath my report um is letter A, personnel, and I'm asking
016the board um to approve personnel items uh as attached. Um couple of things I'd like to say about this. First of all, underneath our um resignations and retirements, I'd just like to point out um some of our folks and how many years of service they have um with us uh and or in the profession. So, um Jennifer Mesher, 32 years Lisa Bai 39 years all in the fourth grade. I don't know. I think that's unprecedented in in that I know of. So um so we are are so thrilled to have had her in our district um as long as we have. Chris Menchover um 24 years at Salina Middle School. Glenna Felver, one of our bus drivers, 26 years as a bus driver. I mean, that's just something in and of itself. Um, and then
017James, Werewolf Jim, um, he's been nine years with us and that's after, um, his career in the US Army. So, that's pretty impressive. Um, and so we thank them for all those decades and years of service. Um, we have some new faces with us tonight who I am aware of. So, um, Tasha Carpenter, I'm going to start with you. Tasha, do you mind giving? Tasha is going to be coming to us, uh, for next year. She's going to be um one of our counselors at the middle school. She's a licensed social worker. So, we're we're thrilled to have her on board here after the vote. Uh and then Leslie Chandler. Leslie. Leslie's coming to us. She's going to be um one of our intervention specialists at the high school. >> Awesome. >> Um so, we
018welcome both of them on board. Uh also, we have um Jeff Amsspoker. So, Jeff is going to be um after you all approve uh our new high school principal. And so what Jeff if you don't mind would you mind just coming up and maybe saying a few words so people can and at home at home watching um >> not to put you on those to say about Salina every person I've interacted with from the school um over the past 21 years have just I mean it's a school that you want to be a part of and so um you know when the position came available it was it was a no-brainer for me um because it's it's the lineup you know, really. So, I'm really, really, really excited to be part of this and um
019I'm excited to to see um continue the progress that has already been made >> and continue that that journey into the new building and into the future. So, thank you guys. >> Thank you, Jeff. You're welcome. >> Thank you, Jeff. So, additional items underneath personnel uh letter A, we are um I'm asking the board to approve a change in FTE for Emily Shioonei um from 60 to 65. I just like to speak a little bit about this. She is currently um 65 is currently what she's doing. So, this is just to um for payroll purposes to make it uh accurate. Um so, little explanation there. Um, I don't know that there's anything else underneath letter A, unless the board has questions of me. >> Any questions for Brooke? >> Okay. Can I get a motion,
020please? >> Make the motion, >> Julie. A second. So, move. >> Mark. Thank you, >> Mr. Klouse. I >> Mr. Schliker. >> Yes. >> Mr. Huber. Hi, >> Mrs. Summer. Hi, >> Mr. Hi. Underneath letter B, I'm asking the board to approve um the stipen payments for the following positions as listed. I'm also asking the board to approve a $3,000 stipend payment for a middle school um ad that will be posted um upon your approval. And that's for beginning the 2627 school year. Um I just wanted to talk a little bit about this because I'm not sure um if this was ever done in the past. If not, it's long overdue. the number of our sports programs um has increased and so you know at the high school for example we have um 20 athletic
021programs when we count boys and girls we also and for the multiple seasons we also have 11 at the middle school and so this position um is going to support um scheduling rescheduling of middle school procuring the officials um for those events and making sure um all is right at those events and to help with coverage because we only have one Kelly, one AD, and so she does her very best to get to all the different um that are hard to find, one custodian meaning non-maintenance. Um I'm asking the board for um you know, 1450 an hour to make us a little bit more um competitive. And then for our bus drivers, so increasing that from $35 um essentially said per trip, it's really per route, AM PM. And so we're asking uh the board
022to approve $45 increase there. Um Head Start may come at a at a future date. This is going to be up to Amy, but given that it's a federal grant and limited funds, um that's why there are no changes being recommended for that at this time. Um so I just wanted to to make those comments regarding that request. Uh and then the other one is for an overnight trip for our FFA kiddos and then for the board to approve um those policies that were presented previously for a first reading. So I don't know if there were any questions with any of those items that are other business. >> Any questions for Brooke? >> You've got two different motions on that. Do we just >> Oh, I'm so sorry. I got excited. I do that. >>
023So the reading >> the first Yeah. So the policies will come out >> board policy. Is there any question? >> I confuse easily. >> I'm sorry. >> Well, and I helped you out on that one. So that's my fault. Thank you. >> Okay. Can I get a motion, please? >> I'll move. >> I'll second. >> John Julie, thank you. >> Mr. Claus. >> Hi. >> Mr. Slight. >> Yes. >> Mr. Huber. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Summer. >> Hi. and Mr. Hillsman. >> I >> now for the policies. I'm asking the board to approve those so we can get those implemented. >> I'll make a motion. A second. >> I'll second. Carl Mark. Thank you both. >> Mr. Claus. >> I. >> Mr. Schliker. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cutie Bur. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Summer. >>
024I hi. >> Thank you. And then for letter D um for head start is to approve uh the report per the attached. >> I'll make a motion. >> Julie a second. >> I'll second John. Thank you. >> Mr. Klouse >> I. >> Mr. Schliker. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cuber. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Summer. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hilman. >> All right. Um, so the next item, again, it's it's not um there's no voting, no action that's going to be taken. It's just for open dialogue for the board to be able to have regarding um the new football field facility within the track um talking about, you know, natural turf versus versus synthetic or artificial options and then a track base. And one of the reasons why this is important that we start having these conversations
025is because the infrastructure there's a timeline by which um Garmin Miller and and construction that they need to have in place so they know what it looks like as far as the infrastructure and that's why um these conversations are necessary um at this point in time. >> So for them to move forward they need to know if we're going turf or if we're going side. Okay. >> Yes. Well, Mark, you want to talk a little bit about where we are funding wise and sure things look like? >> Yeah. So, in front of you guys, I put a another spreadsheet. So, as we started this project, if you look on the front page, it's got the it's the back page. I don't know. Okay. Okay. So when we started this project, we had $21 million worth
026of funds that were LFI, LFO, local funds. So far, we have committed and spent 11,200,000, which is a lot of that was into the elementary school. So that's so the balance of those funds, we had $10 million left. And then from with that $10 million, we also have LFI interest, which is local funds interest. This $2 million is as of the report that we got this week from Michelle. So that's the current number. Um the bond interest not committed. So that's the interest on our OFCC project money that we have at our disposal because of the change at OCC. So that's an additional $1.8 million. Then we had $200,000 which was the Aton grant for track facilities. $17,000 for a grant. And I'm not sure exactly what that one grant was. Do you remember that
027one, Michelle? >> And that's it's it's not a whole lot of money. And then there's $650,000 that we get from the Anderson. Um, and that money comes in, >> I'm sorry, >> and that money is available when? >> 2029, I believe. >> 2029. Okay. >> Is that approved? that >> that yeah that is cut but okay so that that money is future money but it's it's still there. So >> right >> total funds we have available $15 million um we've committed 1.7 of that to different projects within the high school. So that's lighting sound um that kind of stuff in the in the cafeterium different areas that we've spent money. So, we have $13 million left that we will have that we that we are very confident about adding. If we did all of what
028we talked about for phase one, we would spend $15 million. >> Okay. And then phase one, just so we're clear, is track. It's on the back side here. So, that's the visitors restroom, the concession. So, um this button up the TriStar building, renovates the TriStar building, ticket booth, peers, plaza, fencing. Um it puts the football field inside the track and it does the new eight lane track. So, that finishes the track in natural surf natural turf. It's not and it doesn't include this concrete that we're talking about either. So, that's just building it straight away. Um, we've also got in phase one, we also have to demo the administration building part of the fieldhouse. And then there is the $1.7 million that it needs to be dedicated to button up the fieldhouse. So there's a
029that's that's where that $15 million comes from. >> Um, then if we did synthetic turf, we're going to spend $988,000. And if we did the post-tension concrete, that'd be another $564,000. That's another $1.5 million. So those two colors, the the beige and the light green match up to the front, the the beige and light. So that's the $15 million and that's at 1.5. So if we did if we did TURP and if we did the concrete, we need $16.5 million and we have $13.4 right now. Um and then then phase two would be that we finished the the soccer field. And that's another $1.8 million. So, and I talked to Michelle about this a little bit. The interest that we're earning, we're still earning interest. Um, last month we earned $199,000 worth of interest on
030the OFCC funds as well as our LFO funds, >> local. So, all of our local funds, we've raised $199,000 last month. So, there's a lot of money still sitting there. Now, we're going to spend that money and that interest isn't going to be there, but for the next 12 months, we're still going to be getting interest. So, just a sidebar real quick. I just want everybody to know the way that this interest work. About 18 months ago, the state of Ohio said that is our money. Well, Mr. Mark Hillsman here didn't accept that answer. And he pushed the state and kept pushing the state and pushed the state. And guys, they came back and said, "You're right, Mark. That should be your money." And that interest is a big deal. We're talking $2 million coming
031back to the district from that. And also, it continues to grow interest. >> And it's because, you know, Mark said, "No, I I don't accept that answer." So, I personally and publicly want to say thank you, Mark. >> Without without you pushing in on that, we could have missed out on that. So that is a big deal. Thank you. >> Sorry. No, it's okay. Just what I needed. >> Um, so at any rate, I don't So we're right now it's $200,000 a month we we made last month, >> right? >> Next month it'll be a little bit less. Next month it'll be a little bit less. It and we're going to have this money coming in for about a year. So >> interest >> in that interest at $200,000 a month for a year. If
032we said it's $100,000 a month for a year, it's another million. >> Yep. >> That that we would have to spend. And so the $13.4 million now we have $14.4 million potentially to spend on all of these facilities. So and we have an active fundraising program that we're working with the athletic uh boosters. Um, so we're trying to raise funds by reaching out to local businesses and stuff. So, will we I think I'm very confident that we'll be able to fund this in a very timely manner. Um, and there's things that we can not do. For example, there's $1.3 million that if we don't have all of the money we need, we would build the visitors restroom and concession and storage building. We might do that later and and kind of put some of those
033things off. And there's also some cost reduction things that we probably can do. But as it sits today, if we have a good successful fundraising campaign, we're going to be in very good shape. That's exciting. >> That's exciting. And you know, when we talked about this a year ago or two years ago, you know, we were so far away from this point that we didn't know if those funds were going to be there. They were projections where guys we're getting toward the end of the project and it's a reality, >> right? >> And so these funds are going to be real and you know we have the ability to you know to invest in you know future with this and I'm excited. I really am. Yeah. >> So, so the question is given the costs,
034right? And given given what we know, um what are the board's thoughts about um you know, can we just start with the the football field, if you go artificial, or if you go natural turf? I'll say another thing um to keep for us to keep in mind is that outside of football, there are other opportunities for us to utilize this space. We could have, you know, more youth programs um utilize the space if it were artificial synthetic versus natural. Um, we would be able to to potentially host some community events like if we wanted to do, you know, reading under the lights one night and we could have something like that and and invite families and kids and put books into their hands um for early literacy, we can do that and we can do
035it on a turf field. Um, you know, there are just a lot of opportunities I think too outside of just the athletic realm. Um, although obviously there are direct benefits from that. So, um, so I guess if anything, that's my that's my plug that I think it's going to I think it's going to be beneficial and then you can you can save, you know, money each year. What you think it's going to be eventually to to replace the turf, we just put that away each year and maybe someone donates it and maybe they don't, but ultimately it's our responsibility for the upkeep. Mhm. >> Um, and we have a capital fund now, an 070 fund that the board, you know, agreed to to create that we can start to set a budget and and what
036are some costs that we know and um put those in that in that fund for a plan. >> Guys, what's everybody's thoughts on turf versus sub? >> How often does the turf have to be replaced? So 10 to 12 years maybe >> for artificial for synthetic I think it's approximately 10 to 12 >> years >> not just because of the cost is one thing to >> I know there's been studies done >> about the safety >> um I feel like I and I know that we're getting to the down to the bones of what we have to talk about but kind of feel like I want to do a little more research on that or that we need to have research that shows what really is best for kids. >> So, >> for safety or
037have you done this already? >> So, Julie, no. It was interesting last year when I I was with Michelle and Brooke at the school board conference in Columbus. We were walking through the trade show and we talked with a company that sells turf and sod. They do both. And I we asked them that question. And ladies, correct me if I'm wrong here. You know, when we asked that question, they said everybody wants to make that comparison and everybody looks to the NFL. They said the big difference is the NFL has 30 to 40 staff members that all they do is take care of that side field. And they said most high schools have a part-time guy, maybe two part-time people that take care of it. So to compare the injuries from one to the other
038isn't a good comparison. The other thing that they said is there's a lot of schools that go turf and what they do is they put down a multi-purpose turf that it's not good for football and it's not good for soccer, but it's a hybrid that that you could play both on. And they said that's where a lot of issues are. And their recommendation if you were to go and I can I can't even tell you the name of the company. If you were to go with turf and you're going to play football on it, put football turf down and not try to do a multi-purpose because then that also eliminates some of those injuries. So they said when you look at the data, you have to kind of dig into it a little bit to
039see what's the maintenance on it and also what kind of turf they actually have down. So and this company, they said we could do either for you. So they weren't pushing it one way or the other, but that was their biggest thing is, you know, comparing the two that most schools don't have the resources to support SAD, you know, to keep it at that those standards. So >> there's also the economic benefit from it because if we have if we have artificial or synthetic, we can host tournaments. Yeah. And when you host tournaments, you have groups that get the revenue from the concessions. You can charge parking and then you also bring people from the outside into the community and and they're they're going to eat here, you know, and they may even look for
040VBOS's or, you know, to to stay. Um so, so that's another, you know, again, that's not necessarily year round. Um but it is a nice influx um of of revenue stream that we could look forward to. And right now, Kelly, you might know this. Is there two schools in the U WB that has SAD and everybody else want turf? >> I believe so. Yes. >> And so, I mean, not saying that we have to follow a suit, but you know, >> well, I would say that on the other hand, because I'm always on the other hand person, right? On the other hand, I would say that I used to say if you went to a school board and said, "Hey, I want to put a million dollars down for a football field that you're going
041to use five times a year." Nobody in their right mind is going to say that's okay. >> And in fact, we could use it more. I do think is a is a big thing. >> Not just to make money from it, but just >> use. Personally, I'm I'm in the camp that I think we should look at going turf. I just think, you know, the functionality of it and the the ability for us to, you know, host other events and also, you know, graduation for instance, if it if we get 2 in rain the night before graduation, guys, we're moving to the inside because football field's going to be wet. If we had turf, it doesn't it doesn't change that. The sun's shining. We can still have it outside. >> Does this um these prices
042does this include the fact that you don't have to put in watering system? >> Yeah, it's the delta. It's the difference between this regular sod and turf. >> But that's included in that difference. >> Yes. Okay. Could I ask when it says football field and track is 4.3 million uh does that include home stands and that sort of thing? Is that why that's >> Yes, it's bleachers, sound system, press box, lighting. >> Okay. Scoreboards. >> That's what I figured since it was so high. >> What's included in the eight line tracks that makes it 3.6? is that >> that if if we just did the eight line tracks, John, that would be some bleachers. So, that includes some of the bleachers, some bleachers, >> some bleachers, a sound system and stuff. And then when we
043go to the football field in the track, it's additional bleachers um and lighting and those kind of things. And so, it just gets bigger. And I don't remember off off the top of my head. I mean, it's hundreds of thousands of dollars of savings by putting the two together because it's not two sets of bleachers. It's one that can be utilized twice and the lighting is utilized twice and the one press box and >> one sound system, that kind of thing. >> Okay. >> So, that's why there is there's a lot of savings by putting the two together. >> Well, I just never thought we'd have the money, >> you know. That's that's the reason I thought it would be in stages. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's this this phase one is well within our grasp
044to have done within the next probably two and a half years. >> Really stage two is not phase two is not that far out either if we had the funds stage for the soccer field. Yeah, we would if we have the funds and that again depending what our fundraising activities are and how successful we are um we might have the funds to do it all. >> Yeah. I think it's just exciting for the district that, you know, what we thought was a pipe dream is actually can be a reality, right? >> You can have real conversations about it. >> Yeah. >> Not hypothetical. Carlers out on turf versus >> I mean I've always been a fan of grass, but I also see the advantage of having turf, the advantage of not having to worry about
045rain outs, not having to worry about torn up dirt, not having to worry about the sprinklers accidentally springing leak and flooding out the whole field. Then you're out for So I see those advantages. My one big worry was injuries on turf. I've seen them happen, but those were on those multi-use turfs. And if we're going to do it, I would recommend don't make it a multi-use field. Make it a football field. >> Do it football only. And then do the soccer field, soccer field. >> I would agree with that. >> But I Yeah, I see the advantages of using it for other activities as well. I mean, there's multiple things you could do. Different activities, different venues could be used out there on on a turf field that you probably wouldn't want on a grass
046field. So, they're a lot more durable. So, and I know you can stretch them out probably 15, sometimes even 20 years depending on the care and use if you keep them maintained. So, >> and it's the ongoing expense. I mean, it's going to be when you look at mowing and striping and all that stuff, turf is still more expensive per year if you annualize it. So, we would have to be able to budget that. And I mean, you're you're looking at probably acrewing $50,000 a year every year going forward just to be able to have the funds to maintain >> the turf. >> But you're going to also spend 30 to $40,000 a year by mowing and fertilizing and watering and >> painting and all of those things. And so, turf is more is going
047to have a premium but we just have to plan for that and that's the direction the board decides. >> So what about the track? What are your thoughts on the post tension concrete base versus asphalt? My first initial is, you know, let's save the money and go with an asphalt base. You know, the one that we currently have. Um, we've asked around and nobody can really remember if we've ever done a full rebuild on it. I know it's been resurfaced >> and you know if that's the case you know we've I'm going to say maxed out the life of that asphalt and so you know we've proven that it can be done you know and if we got >> 25 30 years out of the asphalt portion of it you know all of a sudden
048we're knocking at the door of what the the um the concrete base would be and oh by the way we're saving half a million dollars Yeah, >> I would agree because it doesn't affect the athletes again and I feel like that's a that's a place where we can save some money. >> Um, and like after looking it up and figuring out how long it's been since it's been resurfaced or I mean it's been a long time. We know it's way way past due. >> Yeah. >> But I feel like saying that 15 years is pretty short on what it really would have as a lifespan. >> I agree. I I just look at the difference and I can't think, you know, if I was buying it for myself, I would not pay that sort of
049percentage difference >> for that for that amount of warranty. And that's how I try to look at things from the school here, too. >> And it's it's a technology that's not real common. So, you have to have specialized contractors. And like you said, Julie, if something goes wrong, it's some it's going to be expensive to fix, too. >> Yeah. This particular quote that we have has an option for different surfaces. Carl and I were talking about it. And I would rather see put another $50,000 in a better surface than put half a million dollars in a different foundation. >> Was the difference in surface cost because it's on concrete instead of block top? No, >> it was offered on both of them. Yeah. >> Okay. >> What? It was the actual track surface that was
050put down. >> No, I don't. >> I'm not going to act like I even >> Me neither. >> near. >> One was a 300 and one was a,000 or,00 or something. And I don't know what that meant, >> but I assumed it was better. Maybe I shouldn't assume it was better since it costs more. >> One absorbs more of the the impact better. >> So, I I Googled it. Um because I don't I didn't know what that meant either, and I I wanted to try to understand more. Um, and so it's a polyurethane if I understand right that that's that's the direction that from when it used to get done like years and years and years ago, but that's what that surface is. And so it seals better. Um, and so you have less opportunity
051to have damage. Um, but as far as like the VSSs, the 300 versus the,000, it's about like the the absorption one I in my technical terms, one's a little bit more like cushiony, bouncy, >> right? Yeah. Than the other. Yeah. >> Um, which you know for track runners that that's going to feel a heck of a lot better. >> I don't mean that I don't mean that we have to do that. It just to me I would put it you know if I was the owner I would put it in that instead of putting it in the base >> to make it a little nicer. >> But like Julie said you know that could be a direct benefit to our athletes >> right a better service. >> Yeah. And as somebody pointed out to me,
052we've sent a lot more. Not that we sent we've had a lot more division one track athletes than we had anything else than >> you know, let's look out for our kids. >> Y >> and I didn't give my two cents on the sod versus turf. >> No, that's okay. >> You know, I'm I'm old I'm an old school football coach and I liked grass. I like the thing about mud, dirt. I I like that sort of thing. That's just part of the game. But I'm completely open-minded to turf. I think it's okay. And it looks like that's, you know, I I I really appreciate hearing that you want to go with something that'll be safer for the football players. It's actually football turf. I think that's that's great. I think that's good. You know,
053and what I look at where I used to practice is the field inside the track now. And that field was always where we needed to practice. And we never could get it watered on time. In the summer it got hard as a rock. All the kids got shin splints, all that sort of stuff from practicing on there. There was ruts in it from the band practicing on the lines and kids got hurt. So maybe it would be better to get away from my old school thinking and think about turf. So there's where I stand. I'm completely open-minded about it. It'll be fine. >> You want us to have a place for mud for you? >> Yes. >> Okay. throw some mud on me when I go to West again. >> As far as the drag,
054I'm more the asphalt base. You upgrade on the actual surface, finished surface, it I don't see the the cost instead of being that great for the for half a million dollars. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's not going to last that much longer. >> Yeah. >> Well, and we kind of proven with our old track that, you know, >> they can't last, right? >> So, we have a core meeting coming up. So, is it it is it a fair statement um that the board um seems to be moving in a direction to go for the asphalt base for the track and then the synthetic artificial turf for the football field. Is that a fair statement? >> I would agree with that. >> The financials look better, so I'm I'm open to it. Okay, >> Carl. >>
055Yeah. >> Mark John. >> Yeah. >> Julie, >> yes. Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Anything else before we close this session down? Okay. We are. Can I get a a motion to move into executive session? >> So moved. >> And a second. Second, >> Carl. Thank you, >> Mr. Clouse. >> Hi. >> Mr. Schliker. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cuber. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Summer. Hi. And Hillsman. Hi.