Marlington Local School District Board of Education – November 18th, 2021, at 5:30 p.m.

001thank you good evening everyone i call the marlington local school district board of education special meeting order on thursday november 18 2021 at 5 30 pm this meeting is the meeting of the board of education in public for the purpose of conducting the school district's business and is not to be considered a public community meeting dr maine would you please call the role mrs gabrick here mr hagan here mrs humphries here mr dr mason mr mish is there a motion for the marlington local board of education to adopt the following agenda for the special meeting on november 18 2021. second are there any additions or corrections please call the roll mrs gabriel yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mish yes pass 5-0 new business dr maine would you please present

002the levy discussion and the finance discussion thank you we have asked ryan gonzalni to from forecast five to join us he's a financial analyst and he has been helping us uh look at our trends and where we stand in the district and helping with forecasting future years he's also a previous treasurer so he's very knowledgeable and he's been very helpful he has built some levy models for you and he's going to present those to you but he can also as you request or he can ask you a few questions and you know write before your eyes he can build a couple a couple more for you he's pretty good at this and fast so um ryan do you want to go ahead and present what you have or would you want them to yeah i

003mean it's up to you i can either start with an overview of the forecast would you like to have an overview of the forecast before we talk about the left options i think that makes sense okay yes yes go ahead thanks so um we've completed the forecast for november you guys have had some changes since may uh there's two specific changes that are impacting your bottom line one is the district used the third round of esser which was not included in the may forecast because they've not gotten approval from the how to farm education on where they can spend this fund yet so they've offset general fund expenses in addition your real estate values increased higher than expected once every three years those real estate values are revisited either through a china update which is

004based off of recent home sales or through a revaluation which means every piece of property is reevaluated by the county auditor so currently where you guys are are sitting this is a simplified look at your forecast is you do have an operating deficit this year of about 480 000 which is an improvement from where we were in may looking at 22. and then that starts to grow so you're still a position where your expenses are outpacing your revenue we have had some other significant changes in the forecast that affect the way in which it looks and that is i'm going to show you a couple of those when you're looking at expenses you will notice that you have an increase in a couple of areas here that weren't there before the first thing you're going

005to look at is up here in brown you're going to see that there's a significant decrease in all other revenues the reason for that is the state of ohio with a new funding formula has reduced or is no longer posting open enrollment tuition your state funding is based on where the kids are educated so as a result you do have a change in your speech does go up a little bit you can see here in green it's the combination of green and red um but that's offset by decreases in in your brown here which is your all their revenue so looking at a simplified way i can show you is digging out all this other noise this is what your state funding looks like obviously you have a decrease in revenue when you combine with

006your state funding there's a reason for that from 20 to 21. so even though this portion of this revenue was pushed into your state funding the students that were being educated elsewhere whether open any schools or scholarships so before the state would give you the funding for them a portion the local share be picked up by the district and then you would spend it out of your your expenditures and so we look here um and i will simplify this for you to show you it's affecting your purchase services and so by no longer being charged that you also had um a benefit i'll bring that one back in let me show your purchase services those expenses were cut you can see they go down by about 1.3 million so the only way that you are

007affected now if students decide to enroll in community schools open rollout or scholarships is in theory you wouldn't get the funding from the state from them however because of where the district sits with state funding you're what's called a guaranteed district and there's no foreseeable time in the future where you're not going to be a guaranteed district so what does that mean it means that you're guaranteed the amount of money that you received in now there's several guarantees in this new funding form but that's the main one that because your enrollment when you go through the calculation does not give you enough money to surpass what you got in 2020. you'd have to add a significant number of students in order to get off that guarantee so right now your revenue is not going to

008be mainly affected by drops in your student enrollment there are some other changes that we don't believe are going to affect you right now if you do drop your open enrollment in students the students that are attending your school district from other neighboring districts if you were to drop by more than 20 students or 10 percent there is a penalty that you would be assigned you get reduction in state funding talking to dr maine i don't believe there's any intention of dropping those levels uh currently so we don't think that's gonna be a factor on your district some of the things that we look at what's changed since your may forecast um you can see here this is your drop so this is the difference between the current forecast and your may forecast your revenue

009in total is about ten thousand dollars difference this year about 455 000 difference this next year this increase here represents your increase in values so you have some additional increase in tax revenue but that is offset um by your decreases in open enrollment and this is your increase in state revenue so in total compared to may forecast your revenue hasn't changed that much for this year it does go down moving forward ignore 2026 at this point the reason this number is so high is because you did not have a 2026 in your may forecast so this number is kind of irrelevant at that point we look at your expenditures we are going to see the biggest impact here is you have a negative 1.8 million dollars to purchase services this is because we just talked

010about your open enrollment community schools and scholarships no longer being counted in the forecast these negatives here represent the offset by using your esr funds to offset general fund dollars so you're down about 466 000 salaries and 69 000 here and we also increase your operating transfers out to be more reflective of what the public utility um transfer to the 070 fund is going to be based off of the values and we had some lower values in there and to bring it up to the actual amount these were increased so in total the district is as we mentioned still deficit spending and a portion of this i'm certainly bring up that simplified statement a portion of this deficit spending has been mass because of the use of essar funds for the last two years there's

011a benefit to the district from a financial standpoint with all of the money coming from the federal government as well as having less some less expenses because of the shutdown in the last two years want this is the line you want to pay attention to this is your um ending cash balance but the more that this grows as we've talked about in previous meetings the harder it's going to be to overcome um and get to a financially stable state at this point would be the year you've run out of all your cash reserves and that you are in a position where you are out of cash um you still are drawing down your cash balance as you move through 2024. the one thing the district does we're assuming in the forecast is that this renewal

012you have two renewal levies out there and that this first one and um they'll be coming off in 24 half of 24 the other half and 25 would be renewed and then you have another one half of it coming off in that second rebuild levy any questions on that before we move into looking at some different levy options [Music] the one thing that um dr may had asked me to project that i worked on with her with is looking at different types of of millage options and so we're going to show you some of those in a scenario here that compares them we have three to show you [Music] so the first one we're going to look at is a 7-mil levee and not transferring the pup of just that seven mills but keeping all

013seven mills in the general fund the second option is transferring um the portion of that seven mil out so be generating less than seven mils for the district and then the third is an income tax option um you do have two different types of income tax options available to the district uh one is called as a traditional income tax it's not like a municipal income tax where it only taxes the residents of the district it does not tax any corporations or workers that do not reside in the district the second option you have is an earned income tax that is just taxes basically on on wages current if there's specific types of income that that tax is it's more attractive for community communities that have a lot of older population because it doesn't go after

014some specific retirement um retirement payments so when we look at these it's going to show you uh between these four the final forecast is the one we just presented in these three levy options what it would look like for the district on a cash balance perspective and that will be coming up here shortly so what you have here um i need to check for the income tax actually the income tax looks like i need to recalibrate that but for this is your traditional this is your current forecast here this is the 7 mil levy you can tell there's about a um three hundred thousand dollar difference between transferring the pup generated from that levy out or not um with this the both of these scenarios here the district is only not deficit spending for one

015year in and then the district starts to deficit spend again in 25 and 26. we've done some extended calculations going out to 28. trending out to 28 is is basically you're just following trends it's the farther you get out um the harder it is to project but looking at a seven mil levy base with the district not making any changes to current expense levels not changing any current trend levels it would show that the district would again in 27 possibly 26 probably 27 because of deficit spending which i'll show you here in a second would need to have an additional levy um probably of about the same magnitude so you're looking at a five year levy cycle without changing any of your expense trajectories moving forward i'll try and bring up let's see what happened

016with your income tax one but i'll bring that up the income tax one while it is an option your ramp up is not as quick it takes about three years to collect so it's gonna not have the the impact right away on your cash balance because of how long it takes to fully generate uh moving forward and i'll try and see why i did not generate for you guys uh here in a few minutes so when we look at either one of these whether you transfer the puck revenue out for just that levy or not uh the district is looking at a situation where even with a a 7 mil levy is a sizable levy you're going to have to probably look at trying to offset some of your expense trends without doing that like

017i said you're going to be back in about five years without any major changes if there are any made changes could be sooner in depth of spending so you can see here here's that new levee coming on if it was passed in november of 22. now that levy's not passed may by november you have an opportunity in may november of 22 then it's not going to generate any additional revenue for 23 and it's only going to generate half and 24. so this is assuming you pass it either may or november you can see the only year you're not deficit spending would be 2024. 2025 you start deficit spending again and it ramps up in 2026. um and then based off of where we're looking 27 and 28 you're probably going for another levy in 2027

018at that point any questions on that i do have a question so we already have two levies already on board right now there are newer levels correct yeah if we want to take a look at your levees and now you're right now the levees you have out there so you have two different types of levees um no no that's not what i'm asking here's your that's not what i'm asking what i'm asking is right now we are operating on two renewal levees now currently correct you have four levees out there two of them are no levees two are right now you're asking for a another one correct is what we're saying so that's three and then you stay in a couple of years we need another one that's four correct if the district does not

019change its expenses the the level at which it's expending funds because they are increasing at a level that is higher than um what these nutrients can sustain then yeah you'd be on a a levy cycle your other option is to take a look at programs and expenses and bend those expenses back to a point where they're not increasing at the level of increasing right now to not have to go in that levy cycle if that's a possibility for the district the district is faced one of the things the district is faced with is because it's considered a guaranteed district when we go through the new state funding formula and we look at how it's calculating for your district it does not appear that there's going to be a way that it's going to increase i'm

020going to download a report to show you to help illustrate that so the district's basically left with one way to raise revenue the only way you can raise revenue is through property taxes open enrollment is now funded through the state funding formula so even if you wanted to increase some districts would increase level of open enrollment to help offset that's not going to be a viable option to the district based off of where the new funding formula is calculating for you because students are now educated or paid for where they're educated whereas before you got six thousand twenty dollars per student um every time you add a student to the district that was open enrolled and so we look at the scenario here i'm gonna show you an analysis and in this analysis for you

021to get off of the guarantee and that we're looking at this line here you would have to increase by 186 students this year now this new formula is being phased in at 14 this year 33 next year and it's assumed it's going to go to 50 and then continue on next year you'd have to increase by 646 students just to get one additional dollar from the state after that you're up to 112. so this is where it does not appear that there's going to be a way that you're going to get additional funding from the state and so the district's left was mainly two options either bend back your expenses to a level where you're not deficit spending or request additional revenue if you do both then it's how long do you want that levy

022to last um and so what dr maine asked me to model was a seven mil levy and that seven mil levy gets you basically um five years at your current expense trends any other questions any other things with levy modeling or any other questions about your current millage or current expenses i can answer for you all right okay if there if there are no other questions we'll go ahead and have brian um right anymore before before could you further explain what would happen if we get what happens to our funding if we get to the 20 mil floor if ryan could go over that the 20 mil floor do we have that um in a model sure so when we look at um and i appreciate that question because i actually wanted to um there

023are two different types of levy that you can go to you currently have what's called fixed rate levees they're based on a millage amount and so one of the questions is there's something out there called the 20 mil floor so when we look at your levees this is what they're originally voted in at now when it says 1976 there's a change in the lock on houseville 920. so any levy before 1976 was rolled up and that's why this is 26.4 mills so this is the full voted amount of any levy and then you can see after that there's an 86 levy with 5.7 mills every time property values go up the millage rate goes down with a fixed rate levy you can in in the south ohio constitution it's called the 20 mil floor it's

024part of household 920 it was passed back in the 70s it was basically to cap um inflation so those home values go up you didn't get taxed more but you can't drop below 20 mils so if you drop below 20 mils so if your values go up let's say um 10 million dollars and that drops you down to the equivalent of 19 mills you automatically go up to 20 which is a additional revenue school district because you can't go below that so when we look at where your your rates are at modeling the changes in property values that we are assuming is going to happen based on trends we see that you're very close to the 20 mil floor and i'm going to show you that in this result view here so you can see

025that in 2000 tax year 18 you're about 23 mills my tax year 24 we estimate that you're gonna be at the 20 mil floor um you can see that you actually had a 2.43 mil decrease from 20 tax year 20 to uh to what we believe is going to happen in tax year 21 which is the current year because of the changes in value so it actually dropped you very close because you don't have any big changes again until that next trying to update reappraisal we think you're going to get there about 2024 and that's going to produce additional revenue for the district so that's been built into the forecast this is class one classroom one's gonna be agricultural and residential values class two you can see you're really not close to the floor there's

026no indication class two is gonna be industrial commercial and some specific type of public utility real property not like pipeline but different types of real property it doesn't appear that you are going to get to the 20 mil floor there so when you get to 24 you can see you maintain there's every time your property values go up it's going to create additional revenue for the district if the district is looking at a levy it would be highly recommended that you do not look at a fixed rate levy you look at what's called an emergency levy emergency levy is you go for a dollar amount it doesn't actually have anything to do with the word emergency it's more of a fix some levy the best way to explain that is is if you go for

027in your case i believe it's around 3.5 million dollars it's generated in 3.5 million dollars and that millage rate is adjusted to bring in 3.5 million if every resident moved out of marlington except one then that one person would be responsible for 3.5 million if double of the residents move in then currently then that millage rate continues to go down that does not apply to the 20 mil floor so it would be probably in your best interest to not go for a fixed rate levy but to go for an emergency levy any additional questions for ryan all right well ryan thank you and um we'll see you again at 6 30. thank you so much thanks [Music] okay that's that's all i had just to give you some options and to start the thought processes

028on where we're at and and how we're going to make it i mean this is odd to me living in different states that this the fact i just saw we have a fixed levy at 26 and a half mils and it generates eight mils or whatever it generates yes it's astonishing i mean that that's and that's not the school's problem that's the state house's problem i mean when we look at that we would that continue so we are essentially based on what i just saw we're bringing in about eight mills less than we brought in in 1976 based on valuations i don't know how i and i know the state supreme court has ruled against it multiple times i don't i i don't know how the people of the state don't rise up to say

029enough is enough that we need to fix this i know why it's done it was a savvy political move because it puts all the pressure on the local school boards to come up with the money and not the general assembly but it's just i i know people who've lived here your whole life you've seen this time and again but this is not how the country does public education it's i mean basically as you heard them because the millage is going to keep going down school boards have to keep going back and ask for more money and and they're the bad guys and it's really not because i just every time i hear it i'm just dumbfounded by it i'm sorry that's just i sit here and stunned at those numbers you said asking for more

030money but in essence you're not asking for more money you're asking for the money we should be getting yeah we're actually asking for less money than we should have based on the levies i mean where they were originally set it seems like those were good numbers somebody came up with if we had 26 and a half mills right now we wouldn't be talking about a levy we'd be okay correct how do we get ourselves to get that that's the question how do we get that and we can't because the way it's set up that's the problem we're fighting an uphill battle that we can't win because we're not allowed to that's the problem this is a this is a conversation that's going on across the state that it's forcing school districts to come back every

031few years to the ballot again um you know and good idea that our taxpayers don't fill the inflation but on the other side we're still taking the same amount of money and we're feeling that inflation and we're not collecting any more to to look at that those staff um you know that's been here a while or to to buy those supplies or the few costs so yes yeah i i've echoed many times what dr mason said we're we're one of the only states that do this this way is florida's constitution says we will not do what the northwest territory is doing we are that northwest territory property levies are illegal in a lot of states but this is what we have in the state house right now they're trying to make this voucher bill where

032you can go anywhere at all that's going to continue to hurt us they're trying to prevent the if someone wants to challenge their property value they're going to leave us out of the picture i mean this is instead of helping so here we are this is what we're faced with so obviously we need more than a seven mil levy however you look at it if you want to look at a fixed amount we need at least four million dollars or we're going to be right where we are right now or maybe worse i just want to add i'm amazed that the district has made it 18 years without 18 years i mean that's just amazing i mean the last meeting we discussed how many cuts we've made over the years and more cuts and more

033cuts i mean that's the reason we they survived it sounds like i mean it's get ridiculous just the way the way it just sounds like we're set up to fail that's where we're at that's why people i'm i'm just understanding that then i need to be told that but that's where we're at but that sounds like every district set up to fail it's in ohio problem but it's set up for wealthy districts are do okay i mean there are some very wealthy districts in ohio and they do okay surprise that's where the wealthy kids live so it's favors them so it's a bad situation well i guess my other question is so if we can't go that route what other routes is there what are there other options that we can come up with to

034do to figure out to get revenue what are other options there's no there's no option i mean there's got to be some way of like that's why i'm saying like is there a business didn't come in and help us out or something we can co-op with something i mean there's got to be something else we can do because there's gotta be a wraparound there's always a loophole so you just gotta know when you find it let us know well the other not a lawyer so um well the other options are income tax levies well yeah i mean i mean we do have options yeah it's it's a one you need some sort of levy or more cuts and i've said before a bunch of times i don't know where else we would cut to make

035this kind of impact so the four million that you're that you want to ask for in a levy could you go over the details of how that money would be spent and do you need i mean you need four million every year so it's like an even amount that's going to work out well if you if you look out in the forecast on 2024 that's when we bring in our esser right now we have probably a dozen i'd have to look staff members on esser funds so those all come back over we had what we called uh a health and wellness fund which i've i've spoken about um earlier we have uh counselors we have um we have our our uh our nurses officers on that nurses and those are all you know things that

036the kids need um but those come over and that was rolled into the formula so what you're looking at is is going to have to support that the good thing is last year we didn't spend all our health and wellness so it's almost going to make it through this year for us so we are spending a lot of that on those those current but those come back over too we have seen a cut in our title our federal funds our title ii used to support two teachers at supporting one now um you know they continue to to cut to make their budget i'm sure and you know these these are just our facts that we have to live with um and we just need to decide um you know are we going to go for

037a levy is it going to be a combination is it going to be cuts it just has to we have to make a decision and then we can really dig in and get you some numbers um but i wanted to start with seven so that you could see the impact of it and then make that decision of where you want to move from there and i i think some of the answer to mrs gabrick is we're a people business i mean that's what we are and and you know you you don't build revenue by turning off lights you can't turn your lights off to a seven or whatever million dollar deficit we're facing and people our people are the lowest paid in the county they deserve raises like everybody else you know they're they're when

038revenue does not go up for 20 years where are we going to get that money you know from your own households everything has gone up from the you know the paper products we use to the materials that we need 20 years ago we didn't have this technology we didn't have the expense it's a different expense so that money will be used to keep us competitive or try to keep us competitive in the world because our kids deserve that so um you know it we use and again and it's just it is what it is the district has neglected curriculum we have to we have not purchased textbooks we haven't given professional development on on that'll be used for that we haven't purchased buses um i mentioned we're the lowest paying we have a huge um

039rate of people that leave the district we have the largest number of administrators that leave the district uh i mean and then there's a whole list of you know we have old buildings we are a whole list of needs that our buildings have so it's going to be used to to keep the current program and staffing at the current levels um basically we we um i mean i believe the district as patty said has been good stewards of the people's money i mean we have to do a little bit uh more for our kids i mean we have elementary classrooms that have 33 kids in a class what are we going to do cut and have 50 kids in a class i mean we had kindergarten at lexington with 29 and 28. we had i

040mean i had to fix that i can't imagine 29 kindergarten kids one teacher so and then we want that for our as our kids get older we want the best for them so they're prepared for the world as much as we can prepare them so that's that's where we are so the seven mil levy would generate four million per year is that what you're saying now what would it generate um [Music] three points i think it was didn't he say three point three three point three three point three i would take about an eight mil levy and and and i'll clarify for you so when i emerge ryan is absolutely right emergency levy and and they're named fun it's nothing to do with really emergency it has to do with how it's tabulated so that's

041going to be a fixed rate a fixed amount of money so the effective millage will change but when we go to the ballot they have to put it this is the millage rate right now and that that will be about eight but we have to train we and i'm just throwing that i'd love it if the people would give us more than that we have to explain to the people once again this is what this means because it's a complicated system this is what this millage system means this is why it fluctuates so why the um the effective millage fluctuates and it's going to bring in the same dollar amount so it's like saying your your paycheck is i don't know 300 a week and it will always be 300 a week until you pass

042another levy things may change rates may change tax rates may change but it will always generate the same amount of money i think that we should come up with a schedule to show what we actually will need this money for rather than just say we need for personnel if we could show you know what kind of races you're building in um you know whether you're building personnel or cutting back whatever you're doing um if you could come up with a chart of where you're going to spend this 3.3 million per year just so we can communicate that to the public well most of it's going to go to you know we're spending more than we're taking in i mean i can we can provide that chart it's here's what we're doing now this is what

043it's going to cover because doing this we're spending more than we're taking in and by the way you didn't do this this this or this and the buildings need millions of dollars in repair but i can put it in a chart um what what i'm i'm concerned because we have to the other piece that our state puts us in is we you all have to decide the board who any whomever sitting here you have to decide 90 days ahead of time what you want to do so we have to back that up back that up and you need you need two readings 30 days apart so to go on the ballot in may that some kind of decision has to be made in december is it going to be what's the effect of millage you

044want to ask for in an emergency levy or are we going to ask for an earned income tax i think the district's a poster child for earned income tax but i i know some of the folks that i've talked to even out here share a concern about people don't know what that is and we only have like this much time to explain it further to them so i don't know as if it's the best time for that we've got we've have we have to do something here soon you had said that either go for a levy or a combination of cuts in a levy um if we're going to do any cuts i think those should be presented to the community what's what could be cut so that we could ask for maybe a little

045bit lower levy if that's the route you're going really the only way we'd have to cut teachers and then instead of 30 you'd have 38 or 40 in a class instead of 30. but i can definitely well i wouldn't think you would have the classes that are overloaded i think you'd look at the businesses that have less students i mean i mean they don't know how they're pretty they don't have 30 no they don't all but are our more primaries have 25 that should be about 20 and they have 25 i mean we can we'll need to have a plan in place in case a levy well income taxes that's my other concern is what do we do when we don't pass well we put it on there and we don't pass what's that we

046have to so here's the answer that i've always given people we'll have to make very uncomfortable cuts the district will not look anything like what it looks like right now i mean in my mind we need to put it on here as soon as we can so i think we need to vote for it to put start putting a levy down i mean that's just where we're at i mean that's what you guys are telling us i mean that's you guys do it you deal with it every day if we're going to keep the current programs and staffing as is then we'll have to go for a levy right if if the board is expecting cuts then i think we probably need to to know how deep into those programs and staff do you want

047to go give us a number um that you're comfortable with and i mean how many more cuts would you want to do i mean you're a teacher could you imagine i love manny on the current staff right sorry to cut in patty i just know i just don't feel like i mean i think this is important i mean if we are we're rock almost at rock bottom that's how that's how i'm hearing it from you yeah if we're that close and i think we need to do something to you know maintain if we lose more we have a bigger problem you know there are some other things that affect us we're kind of a you know i don't know some people bulk when i say this we're kind of a small high school so when

048you're a great big high school you can manipulate things you can offer more classes we want to offer like today our kids want to take way more than when we went to school and they need to but to offer that takes a lot and then things don't always balance because somebody's always going to find well why does this teacher at the high school only have 11 kids that period well he because it doesn't always balance you know there are teachers that are pretty overloaded we got an english teacher here last year our english language arts classes are pretty packed so that's another issue that we face we want to be competitive we want to offer what other districts offer but we've got to be able to pay for that we can do any scenarios i

049mean we can i'm a visual person too we can do some charts and scenarios for you i just think we need to know an amount i i worry a little bit about chart yeah we need to know an amount and and when i we do scenarios then sometimes people say that's carved in stone when it's when it's not could you clarify the buses because i thought we were up to date on our buses and had purchased five in the recent past i thought we were up to date on the buses we did purchase five was it five houses or three it was i think um so we did purchase buses however buses are like i always have this conversation with ben buses are like um servers do you want to purchase all the buses in

050one year because they're all going to go bad in one year um do we want to purchase all that's why we extend out our refresh program for computers and and that's what we're trying to do here with this ester piece we have to start planning what are we going to replace each year and a lot of schools buy one or two buses a year to avoid that huge amount because you know that cars only last certain times buses only last a certain and we have a large area with a lot of mileage to cover um so you know again we don't want to we don't want to hear it but but that's why you go and purchase one of us one or two buses a year is to spread that expense out the state used

051to give us money to buy buses then they started backing it down and for a while you could buy about one bus a year then we don't now we get nothing for that and just so remind you a bus costs about 90 000 school bus just your what you need not a handicap bus or anything like that costs about 90 000 and people have asked over and over we tried i've tried been in districts that tried the electric bus it didn't save any money right now the good old gasoline bus is the best will that change i don't know diesel didn't fulfill the promise to our generation that it promised you know but there's not that much difference so a bus costs about 90 000 a year or 90 thousand dollars to buy and then

052you have to maintain it and fuel it and paddy's right we're huge land land-wise we're huge it takes a lot of fuel and and you're right we don't have to buy a bus a year it's it's you know that's we just need direction do we want to wait well i guess the question is are we behind you and said we haven't bought any buses but well i maybe i should have said we're behind we we have some buses yeah we have some repairs now we probably need to start looking at which buses those are going to yes and i don't want to leave a problem for somebody else where you come to a year and like oh my goodness we need eight buses now this year or five so that happened is that what happened

053that night that happened in the past i don't think we ever bought eight in one year though or five or whatever several years ago when there was about five years buses weren't purchased and then that led to having to buy double buses the next several years and there was some sort of deal that that we it was we were offered too the last time we bought buses it was like there was that's why we got we decided to go for more yes it was a grant paid a certain percentage and we try and jump on those as soon as we find those grades because that's a good um that's a good opportunity again because you can spread those buses and also it gets to the point that you have some old buses that just need

054a lot of parts so but mike i think if if you want to run a scenario i think the scenario you have to run is an honest one that would be like what would it look like and we can't nickel and dime on cost of toilet paper or whatever else but ten percent cut across the board of staff a personnel what a ten percent what would that look like what would it look like class size wise all across and then what savings do we get out of that and then that's an easy enough one to cut in half or into a tenth or but it's a scenario that you can run just to give you a starting point rather than just say run a scenario to come up with them see what that comes up

055with on savings but also on class sizes well the other the other thing too too that is you can't make a uniform 10 cut across the board i mean if you have one you know one teacher teaching this subject how do you get rid of 10 percent of that you know i'm saying that i know you can't do it but but you that's that's the best scenario we can run unless you unless you want mike to spend the next month going class by class trying to he can't that can't be done so it's an it's a simple one to do it just gives you a better idea of what it's looking like across the board and then you know and then if you see that an english thing it's not you instead of eight you

056go five or you know so it's something that's manageable so i think that's a good idea so people get a baseline view of what's happening right across the t could see a table this is where we're at this is where the cost is this is where the cost is with this this is what the cost is with less of this now this simplifies it i don't think that's a bad idea patty could you circle back to the 20 mil floor um i had heard it said when you get to the 20 mil floor you get a full inflationary increase which could equate to a couple of mills levy can you explain how that works um [Music] the reduction of your effective mills they can't reduce them anymore because um for you to get federal right

057right so i get the 20 mills but the value of that is full 20 mills increase for inflation so that it actually creates more revenue it stops the doc dr mason spoke about this where well you're kidding me you we have 56 but but we only have how many effective well that effective stops dropping it stops at 20 but what does the value do do we get full inflationary value on the 20 ml you know how we get it on the inside millage we get full inflationary value do we get full inflation value then on the full 20 mils at that point because it was said in a seminar that when you get to the 20-mm floor it can bump up your revenue to equate to a small levy so it would increase people's taxes

058i will i will contact um the county and find out those exact figures is that something ryan knows right now when we talk to him at 6 30 that's something he can answer he might be able to um he might be able to model that for you um but i know that our our county auditor can also answer that for us what that would look like you're wanting a dollar amount correct the dollar amount of that if we're at the 20 mil floor i guess versus a small amount over so you can see what happens because it's my understanding that there's more inflationary increase in there and then i guess what we shouldn't forget is there is suspended nexus money at this point which could help the problem later on and potential solar revenue at

059some point in the future so i was going to just briefly bring it up during the osba so patty and i went to the pipeline coalition meeting so the nobody has crystal ball but the nexus pipeline hearing is in february and the attorney becky this board knows becky uh prince horn we've worked with her we've had her um and she's been around a long time so her she said that a lot of times it takes nine months to get a decision from the hearing and then it'll go to the supreme court and her best guess is 2025 when we'll know more about the pipeline um who knows who knows what'll happen but you're right there is some potential here but we have to get to that right but maybe you wouldn't need to ask for

060as much money knowing that that's a decent potential on the horizon i don't think anybody's ever said that's a decent potential well it depends on which school district you talk to there's school districts that believe they're going to get a good portion of that there's people believe they're going to make them win the lottery tomorrow too well this is a little bit different because at this point the pipeline owes the money they're just trying to argue that they don't we've also got other forms of revenue that you know aren't being included in the forecast such as the you know the new project at the mall but that's going to generate some income for the district and that's possible what's that yeah from the mall it's in here it's in there okay what was projected and

061also the project with the solar farm i believe that may be a possibility as well yeah right now from what i understand right now they're not projecting i'm not saying to count on that i'm just saying those are things that need to be considered we do have a pi levy we do have a permanent improvement levy and that brings in uh 600 000 a year so that's something but that all goes with you know and and i can tell you if you have new buildings old buildings that money you build you you all have homes you know it doesn't matter is it new is it old ours need a little more yes because they're old but we do have a a pi levy that's brings in about 600 000 a year but the grant money

062and that sort of thing also is not included right any grant money or federal funds are not included in this federal funds are not esser the reduction to personnel costs as well as benefits and supplies are included and um and in addition to that we have refresh computer refreshes in here that we would have generally taken out of our general fund but we are now taking out of esser so all of that is reflected in here it's just basically we're going to have to do business different if we're going to um if we're going to spend more than we bring in so it's either we got to bring in more money for the levy from a levy or we're just gonna have to make some cuts in programs and and personnel those are our only

063options okay all right based on uh declining enrollment and have we have we decreased our personnel in relationship to declining enrollment over the years um we can do all work up on that we do an analysis i would say yes but we can do an analysis because remember in i don't know what i don't know what year when jim nicodemo was here you made i think 2011 2011. you made about 2 million 1.8 million in cuts and then we i know since i've been here we haven't replaced some teachers too so are there any other questions well if i could just ask you please over the next couple weeks keep the communication lines open i'm open to your ideas i'm open to your ideas those of you that are joining the board i'm open to

064the community's ideas we are because we have to make a decision we have to make some sort of decision here in december so that's and and i agree this is not easy this is not easy nobody wants to ask for more money but we we have got to help this community understand as dr mason said this is an ohio problem this is the way we do it so here we are thank you is there a motion to adjourn the special meeting so moved second is there a discussion please call the roll mrs gabriel yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mish yes pass 5-0 well we're almost at 6 30. how contingent good evening everyone i call the arlington local school district board of education regular meeting to order on thursday

065november 18 2021 at 6 35 pm would everyone please rise for the pledge of allegiance the reading the mission statement this is karen humphries in collaboration with staff community parents and students the marlington local school district will develop lifelong learners who understand and apply knowledge and demonstrate excellence in pursuing the highest standards with effective intervention to challenge every student thank you this meeting is a meeting of the board of education in public for the purpose of conducting the school district's business and is not to be considered a public community meeting dr maine would you please call the roll mrs gaber here mr hagan here mrs humphries here dr mason here mr mish here is there a motion for the marlin local board of education to adopt the following agenda for the november 18 2021 regular

066meeting so moved second are there any additions or corrections please call the role mrs gaber yes yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mish yes pass 5-0 presentation of your forecast dr maine okay as i mentioned before we have ryan gizoni with us from forecast5 he's an analyst a financial analyst as well as a past treasurer so he has been very helpful in looking at the trends and helping us to forecast where we're going to be in future years based on all of the information we know at this time as well as like i said the trends ryan could you go ahead and go over the forecast for us since we last met about an hour ago i did get some additional visuals i'll share with you um the first thing

067we went over this is this is a simplified version of your forecast if you look uh the district's gonna start the year with 7.9 million dollars in cash in the bank we're anticipating bringing in 23 million 955 uh thousand dollars in revenue but we believe you're going to spend about 24 million 436 the district will have an operating deficit this year and what that means is that you're going to be spending more revenue or spending more um than you're bringing in revenue so you're going to be dipping that cash balance and that tends to we believe that's going to continue to increase as you move forward for a couple reasons some big changes since the last forecast the district has had an increase in values due to i believe a reappraisal happens once every three

068years reappraisal trial update and so that generates some additional revenue for the district in addition the district used sr3 funds to offset some salary expenses those were two items that were changes since the may forecast that changed sunker bottom line in addition the state of ohio changed the state funding formula not only did they change how the state funding formula impacts the district but they also did some significant changes to how it affects your revenue and expenses as far as how you they account for things and so one of the things i'll point out when we look at total revenue you can see that the district is going down from 21 to 22. you're about 25 million 299 and 21 and going down to 23 million 955 and 22. we look at the causes of

069that although your state revenue is going up from 21 to 22 and this is two different forms of state revenue that you have one thing that i'll mention is you can see this orange color increases this is restricted funding and in blue here's what's called unrestricted so restricted the state's telling you how you have to spend it unrestricted means you can go for the general operations of the school district what's changed is you were getting student health from a student health and wellness funding is being deposited into a separate fund the state is now bringing that revenue into the general fund it's a different calculations that's part of this increase and restricted it also changed the way that it's doing economic disadvantage it's called dpia funding as well as gifted funding is now restricted so

070the district's going to have to be able to show for both student wellness and gifted how they're spending the money that they're spending the threshold that the state is giving them based on the calculations even though this revenue is increasing you can see that you it's after this year it's pretty flat and as we talked about earlier that's because the districts is considered a guaranteed district so there's three different guarantees in this funding formula one is a look back to 2020. one's a look back to 21. the one that's looked back to 2020 is in permanent law the one that to look back to 2021 is not which means that if the state doesn't act on a new state budget that one could go away there's always a risk if you're guaranteed district that your

071funding could be reduced in future years if the state doesn't do 100 guarantee um typically in previous years all but once or twice have we seen that it's been a hundred percent occasionally there's been decreases uh by i think no more than three percent but for right now we are anticipating that your overall state funding both the orange and the blue is going to maintain no increases so when we look at all other revenue you're going to notice that there's a significant decrease here and that's because tuition revenue has been taken out open enrollment and is now part of your state funding which is a part of the reason why you see an increase in state funding but it's not the same as the decrease you're seeing here for open enrollment so this is open

072enrollment revenue the biggest reason why um you'll also notice all their financing sources the district had some one-time revenue because of bureau workers comp refunds in 2021 that generated these additional higher here in green uh we're not anticipating that moving forward when we look at the taxes um this basically the only form of revenue that the district has control and increasing at this point we are not this current forecast i'll show you some additional visuals later is not showing any increases in new levees what you can see here in this pinkish color is your renewal levees so this is assuming that the district's going to renew levy one levy prior to 2024 and that the there's an additional levy that needs renewed prior to 2026. the district has two levies that are up for renewal

073and then two other levies that are continuing that don't require no levies or to be passed again they're continuous when we look at the district's expenditures you can see overall with the exception of 21 this is the impact here in 21 of using esther to offset general fund expenses and it also happens in 22 even though there's an increase um moving forward we're gonna go a little bit more into what's happening in 22 but moving forward you can see the projection that the district is on of expenses continuing to increase when we look at salaries the district did reduce one position this year and then used esser funds to offset current general fund expenses the same thing was done in using esr funds to offset general fund expenses moving forward we don't believe that there's

074going to be any additional rounds of esser and there's no additional staffing reductions included in the forecast moving forward at this point with the district's benefits the district also also offset a portion of its benefits salary-related benefits because of esser funding the one thing that is an unknown moving forward with your benefits is the district's part of a healthcare consortium and that healthcare consortium will issue premium holidays each year historically those can be as many as i think three or four which is significant and that's kind of where you see i think there was three in this year i'm sorry they went from three to two so you saw an increase we do have one premium holiday included moving forward as well as increases in the premium those are not in the district's control the

075consortium um usually in april or may of each year we'll announce what those are going to be so we do have two premium holidays this year one premium all day moving forward and that's what you're seeing here in orange one of the biggest changes in expenses is with the district's purchase services what you can see here in pink is tuition this is because the state no longer charges districts for open enrollment out community schools or um for scholarships so that's why you're seeing a pretty big decrease in this pink area besides that most of your other expenses are continuing on the current trajectory we do have some increases to bring you back to pre-covered levels this is contracted services here basically the contract and services you're getting a lot of this is your esc costs

076legal expenses any type of other services that you're purchasing from outside groups mainly for instructional and technical purposes what you see here in orange is your repair cost we've kept these pretty consistent moving forward a little bit of increase because of inflation the district is seeing an increase in utilities you did see a drop last year we've started to bring those back up because we are seeing utility across across the state and school districts going up and this is your remaining tuition costs so even though open enrollment community schools and scholarships are gone you still have private placement tuition you have what's called excess costs which is for students being educated in other districts that have special needs that exceed a certain threshold as well as college credit plus foster-placed court-placed students is what makes

077up these remaining amounts here those are the three major sources of expenses the district has we look at all other expenses this is going to be things like supplies so down here in blue you can see your supply costs the district is utilizing esser funds to also offset i believe ipad purchases and in both 22 and 23. so that's why you see a spike here in 24 is when those expenses come back to the general fund you have because you have a pi fund and 070 fund we have about a hundred thousand dollars budgeted a year for capital outlay in the general fund that's in addition to those funds um you also have other objects so sunken county esc costs are being charged here as well as county auditor and treasurer fees those are pretty

078consistent moving forward and then you have in red here is the district's estimated transfers because of the public utility tax revenue being transferred out into the 070 fund so that makes up the majority of your other expenses and you can see those amounts here and then finally these smaller amounts here in purple is you have a house bill 264 loan that'll be paid off in 2025 so those expenses are including the forecast through then as the district because of the districts not having increases in state fundings being projected and no additional tax levy's being planned in this forecast it's the primary reason why when we look at your simplified financial statement the district is deficit spending and as you deficit spend you draw down basically your savings your cash balance at this point based on

079the current trajectory of the district's expenses without having any diff changes budget reductions you'll be out of cash you're projected to be out of cash in 2025. we have done some extended forecasting on that and looking at that extended forecasting you can see as you move out purely on a trend basis as you get into 2028 that this trend just continues expenses are going to continue to go up and revenue stays neutral so that's creating an operating deficit which leads to to this cash balance here so the district does have has asked me to provide some options for them as far as how to raise additional revenue at this point i we have not been given any additional reductions in expenses so this is purely looking on a revenue standpoint and what you're seeing here

080is three different scenarios um and i wasn't able to get your income tax scenario in here so i did this a little bit different than we met an hour ago what you see here is love is the first scenario and this should actually say 22. this line here is if you pass a 7 mil levy in 22 you can see it gets you out to around 27. if you don't change your expense trajectory you would then have to look for additional resources there if that levy did not pass in 22 and waited till 23 to pass that's this solid line here um and it's almost to the point where this is would not be a viable option for the district if us you need additional bills and 23. and i'll show you a little bit

081more detail in a second um i'm sorry this is your income tax this is your um is there a line that you were showing them they're not seeing the line they're not seeing the line no we're seeing the chart yeah there should be lines let me go i will take you to the individual results are you able to see these we're still seeing the let me stop sharing and reshare or help now thank you very good sorry about that all right so go back um this is moving forward on the current trajectory if you were to go all the way to 28 i will tell you projecting out through 28 is you're just following trends um there could be you're going to have by 28 you're going to have a lot of new legislation you'll

082have two new fi binau budgets by that point but this is assuming everything stays consistent with what the current laws are if you can the current values with increases we've projected and expenses continuing without having any reductions so when we look at these scenarios this line here is actually this should say 22. if you pass that levy in 22 this is what your trajectory would look like um you would not be depth of spending in 2024 and then it starts to spin down i'm going to show you that in a little bit more detail in a minute this line here is your income tax so the district went for an income tax option rather than a property tax option there is it takes longer to ramp up so it takes about almost a year longer

083to fully collect on that and this option i'm going to show you a little bit more detail in a second is we modeled the equivalent of a 7 mil levy which is i believe 0.85 income tax traditional or 1.125 i believe earned income tax the two different options so to generate the same type of millage as a seven mill levy if passed in 22. this dotted line here is if you wait until 23 to pass a 7 mil levy um it's it's not enough money at that point to offset your expenses i'll show you why looking at a little bit more of a simplified financial statement this is a 7 mil levy and 22. so there's only one year where you're not deficit spending the district starts deficit spending again in 25 the reason why

084is because you get half your revenue in 23 which is calendar year 24 and you get the full collection of that levy in in fiscal year 24. and so because of that you don't deficit spend 24 you begin def spending in 25 and you can see that you're probably going to need an additional levy if your expenses don't change by that point in 27 if you're not able to bend those trends back because you're significantly tough suspending again if we look at the income tax i'm sorry this is a 7 mil option in 23. in this case if you don't pass that until then um you'd only get half of it in 24 in the full collection 25 and the district never actually stops stuff suspending so if your expenses don't change then you continue

085even with a seven mil levy pass in calendar year 23 you continue depths of spending um throughout the forecast period and are actually out of cash by 28 based on these trends once again these are just using trends for 27 28 because it is an extended ways away looking at what you've annually changed your expenses by and then the third option is an income tax what you can see if the income tax is the traditional levy property levy if you passed it in 22 you're going to get about 1.7 million in 23. on an income tax you only get about 212 023 then in 24 you get about 2.5 million and then your full collection it actually collects we're anticipating because of the way um income taxes work that you'd actually start over collecting by

08625 and you'd be collecting about 3.8 million dollars on that if you pass the 3.6 million dollar income tax you know so the big difference is between property taxes are going to bring in the amount that you pass it for we talked about earlier it's in the district's best interest to go for a fixed sum emergency levy so it's going to generate about 3.5 million dollars a year an income tax does can go up but an income tax can also go down if the economy goes towards a recession it's going to fluctuate just like people's wages do unemployment things like that so the district those are three different scenarios there's plenty of other ways that we can do modeling um depending on what the district if the district has any interest in anything with expenses

087or if they want to see different revenue simulations for millage the one thing is is this trajectory is has been continuing the the ester money the district received and the increase in property taxes because of the housing boom um that offset or basically bought you guys some time the yes for money is not going to be continued so those expenses are brought back in the general fund once that esther money is is liquidated and without additional one-time money like that the district will go back to more severe deficit spending that was originally projected before using those funds to offset general fund expenses any questions for me ryan if we could is there a way that you could um give a quick assessment where um an eight mill levy would take us here you want to

088see an eight mil levy yes we can do that and passed in 20 22 right right so what we are going to do here is we are going to change our estimate and you can see that we were estimating about a 3.75 would have been a seven mil levy and we know one property mill and 22 is going to bring in about an additional 530 000 so we're going to take this up to about what's the screenshot 4.3 million are you so yeah i'm uh just going through that now for you okay and so i'm now showing a 22 22 mil i'm sorry of an 8 mil levy based on five mill renewal the emergency pass in 22 and if we look at your simplified statement here in that case the district would not be

089deficit spending for three years so you you would start having a revenue surplus in 23 um and then you'd have a operating surplus again in 24 25 and start deficit 2026. if we want to look at that more extended forecast i'll download that now and we'll pull up here in a second so in this case it's going to this is probably going to extend you out longer the district would start deficit spending again in 26. i will stop presenting and re-present this new screen and so based on this scenario summary you could see that he would start deficit spending as we said again 26 and then 27 and then it grows in 27 and 20. i i think um i i think even when the district decides on the size levy they're going to go

090for you you're going to want to explore ways to bend back some of your trends on expenses as well to make these levies last as long as possible um just because your current year of your increases and expenses are at a rate that it would put you in a levy cycle if if that's not if the district doesn't want to be on a levy cycle there are some districts that they are on a five year levy cycle every five years there used to be some on three they've gotten away from those a lot of districts but if you don't want to be on a three or five or six year levy cycle you've got to bring back your expenses if not you want to determine how long do you want to go before you're back

091on the bout again based on current trends so one thing i'll say about current trends the forecast is much like a gps in a car it's going to tell you based on how you're currently spending when you're going to reach your destination when you're going to start you know there's definite spending how things are going to trend out there will be things every year that change along the way and we analyze that each month and what has changed how is it changing in your case we're not seeing a lot of changes in the future that are going to significantly change your expenses um we're going to alter them a lot of your expenses are in salary benefits um and then you have some in in in purchase services and then you know it's a district

092transferring the funds out to the o70 fund that's another significant source of your of your expenses those are the main areas you have brian would you be able to show us the dollar value if we would get to the 20 mil floor on the residential versus for example what the dollar value is at 21 mil and explain whether there's inflationary value in that 20 mil floor yes i think i heard you correctly just show how we assumed you're going to get the 20 mil floor and when you're going to get there and what the 20 mil floor is yeah the dollar value of it okay well she's i couldn't hear that he said the dollar value of it the dollar value um yeah let me share this new screen so if we focus on the

093first question i'll answer is what the dollar value is the dollar value depends on what happens with property values when you get a 20 mil floor and so when we look at your revenue specifically taxes you can see there is a slight increase in your taxes if you combine all of these well we want to take out this new levee so let me go into a new scenario for you to show i'll go back without the uh the levy being passed so depending on what happens with your property values will dictate what happens when you get to 20 mil [Music] for example i'm going to show you what's happened recently with your property values and what we've assumed is going to happen moving forward this is completely dependent on you know we're in a very

094strong housing market right now so if we look historically there's there's two things that property values reappraisal trial updates and that's in this column here and then you can also have new construction which is in this column here that does not affect you get additional revenue based on new construction this is your class one residential property and you can see you had a 11.96 increase in 2015 in 2018 you had a 13.39 percent increase and then you had a 20.31 percent increase in 21. so we're estimating approximately half of that is going to happen again in 24. now if after next year the housing market stays strong and there's a still shortage of houses on the market and prices continue to increase we're going to need to revisit these numbers here to see what we're

095going to project because it's based on three years of history so if you have a 21 million dollar increase in residential values and then we look at your agricultural values you don't have as much changes in agricultural values you've actually had decreases agriculture have had changes this is also part of your class one um as things started really climbing and you can see in 15 the legislators changed the way that those tax those properties are taxed and so then you started to see decreases and so you've kind of seen not a lot of significant changes in the last couple of years and then this is just new construction and you had one year where you may have had some additional barns or something built but historically you don't see very big increases in new construction

096with with your agricultural so assuming that you have a 21 million dollar increase in residential and not significant you're going to reach the 20 mil floor for your fixed rate levies you can see that here so this is this year when you had that large increase of 49 million it dropped 2.43 mils you still haven't hit the 20 mil floor so this will continue to go down this is when you we estimate you have a 21 million dollar increase in values that can definitely change it all depends on what happens with the housing market so once you hit this 20 mil floor you can't drop any lower and you can see here at the 20 mil here what happens with that assuming there's a 21 million increase i'm going to show you what's happening with

097with your values then at that point when we look out here so you can see that about a hundred and seventy four thousand dollar increase hundred fifty five thousand is spread over two years so that twenty one million dollar increase is basically a little bit over three hundred twenty five thousand dollar increase in tax revenue to the district because of that if you were to have a 50 million dollar increase that number would probably more than double and you might have a six hundred thousand dollar increase over two years seven hundred thousand dollar increase so that it just depends on what's going on at the housing market at that time as far as how much additional revenue we get because of 20 mil floor if you go back to when they were going through a

098recession districts then came off the 20 mil floor and by coming off the 20 mil floor then their millage rates go back up and then it it's not until housing values go back up does it get reduced again did that answer the question i'm not really sure it's very complicated yeah basically the the 20 mil floor was put in place the districts couldn't drop below it um but house bill 920 was put into place that as property values go up millage rates get reduced because back in the 70s when that was passed and actually became part of the ohio constitution they didn't want rapid increases in housing values to cause rapid increases in taxes the flip side of that is districts don't get it's kind of where districts in your situation get put into a

099levy cycle the only way for you to increase revenue is to do additional taxes because the current taxes are constantly reduced unless you're at that 20 mil floor other states there is automatic increases in taxes for various different mechanisms depending on what state you're in that provide for inflationary growth and revenue without having to go for a vote of new taxes i guess if you could elaborate on that a little bit i had heard at a seminar that when you hit the 20 mil floor it could equate to as much as a two or three mil levy um is that i mean how does that work because you would drop below the 20 mil or because you get inflationary increase full 20 mils the way that so for some districts it it all depends on

100what's going on in your district there are if you are at the 20 mil floor and you have large increases in housing values during those reappraisal years so this is going to happen or try to update once every three years there are districts right now it's not the ones you'd probably think of it's the ones that got hit hardest by the recession are the ones there are some districts up in the cleveland area that are seeing a 30 increase in values and if they were at the 20 mil floor they're going to see significant increases in revenue because of that um there are other districts that weren't hit as bad by the housing market or they're fully built out and there's they're not seeing the increases or some of the ones that are at the

101higher end it just depends on you know i can model for you you can see here we're at between these two years about 325 000 if i go to your district let's just say this housing bubble continues and you actually get a 65 million dollar increase so this would mean that there is no slowdown in the housing market by no mean am i saying this is going to happen um and you actually have an increase higher than what you had in 21 so remember 21 is going to be based basically off of 19 20 and 21 it's three years it's not just what happened in 21 and so in 22 which is starting next year this thing continues and your values continue to increase even surpass what you were there now at a 69 million

102dollar increase in or 65 million dollar increase in values if we look how does that impact your revenue well now you can see that's that's a million dollars more over a million dollars more for the district so before that 21 million dollar increase was 325 thousand 69 million essentially three times what we were budgeting um is going to produce a million dollars more for the district over a two-year period it's actually 1.5 million over two year period but by 2026 it's a million dollars more compared to what you were collecting here in 24 before that happening you can see 8.7 million to 9.8 million so i guess the answer your question is it depends on how much growth your values see when you hit the floor determines how much additional revenue your district can get

103in this case i think we said let me see real quick we said earlier that a one mil levy is 530 000 so if you were to get a 69 million dollar increase in values in 2025 that'd be the equivalent two mills for your district thank you and then i have another question um when you get out to year 25 and 26 on the forecast we know that revenues projected low and expenses are projected extremely high how do you use those two years in coming up with a reasonable level to ask of your community when you know that those two years um probably have never come to fruition in the history of marlington so what we look as we look at your history so for things like salaries we're looking at what's your typical what's

104a reasonable increase in wages based off of historically where the district's been that we call a base wage increase and what does the district have for step increases the step increases is without an increase in base wage the the staff still gets increases as they go you know basically longevity increases and so what are those for your districts and that's what we project for salaries when we look at benefits we are looking at things like and then also what you have and as i step back for a second in your salaries is you have things like uh your esther money coming back on to the general fund um your wellness money has come back in so that's that's increasing this even more we can see your esther money um those start to come back here

105in 24 and 25 so you actually have some increases in positions because you were paying these out of esser funds starting at 22. that's offsetting it so that kind of increases your expenses a little bit more because you're bringing these back in as those esser funds go away when we look at things like your healthcare benefits that one's a little bit harder to project because the district has had you can see here these are premium holidays so this is the equivalent of three premium holidays two premium holidays two historically um and then you can see your increase is anywhere from a four percent to a seven percent increase the the cog and dr maine correct me if i'm wrong recommends that you don't include any premium holidays moving forward and a 10 increase um the

106district hasn't seen no holidays and the district hasn't seen a 10 increase so we have not included those in this forecast we have you at seven percent moving forward that can change it's hard because out of districts control as far as what those increases are going to be and a lot of is based off of where the consortium as a whole is at we've also included you have two premium holidays this year and we have one moving forward you vary melt weight you very well may have two moving forward um this is very subjective because we don't know what the cogs going to grant they're telling us no premium holidays 10 increase as i said historically that hasn't happened so we didn't put that in here we didn't do two every year in a three

107percent increase because you have had some seven so we settled on seven percent increase in premiums one freedom hall day a year and then every time you know if we find out april that changes we'll adjust this when you look at things like purchase services we use you're in an interesting time because with purchase services um and supplies you look at things like covid and so we have to go back to 2019 to have your last non-covered year to throw that into effect we want to take out this purple because this is your tuition and that's dropped this year we do anticipate about a two percent inflationary growth moving forward in your tuition expenses but if i take that out that's going to give you a better visual what's going on with your other purchase

108services so what you have here is your utility cost we're still below where you were in 2019 but we apply some inflationary growth moving forward um for the current year though we're looking at where's where you actually through the first four months and then how do we project that moving forward no significant increases here by 2026 we're still where you were in 2010 below where you were in 2019. communications it's not a significant portion it's pretty steady this is your repair cost here once again you had spent more than 18 and 19 we've reduced that this is also leases and you do have a larger lease out there um i believe it's on computers that we ends in uh dr main crypto wrong 2023 and we anticipate the district's going to have to replace those

109we've continued at least moving forward or not the same lease but that you're going to enter into something around the same dollar amount and this here is your contracted services this is things like otpt services nursing services some services are posted here from the eoc others are posted to the 800. and we are pretty comfortable with where this is going to be you have some coming back in because your wellness fund's expiring and then we just apply some inflationary growth there nothing like a five percent not even a three percent we're just trying to account for as the cost of things go up one of the areas when we look at your supplies things are going up a lot more this year we're not sure when that inflationary costs are going to go down we

110know things are costing more but things like bus i'm sorry this is your maintenance supplies here you've been offsetting those the last couple years with um with your esser funds and now um this year with the additional things that you're having to purchase because of the opening of school the budget was set right around 145 000. you can see up here this is your transportation cost we have applied some growth this this is an area we want to watch out this could increase by even more but we're basically back at your pre-coded level uh with full busing the last two years are tough to use for a lot of these you can see here one of the reasons why you have big increases in 24 25 and 26 even though this says textbooks this is

111your student ipads for two years you're using esser funds to offset those so we bring them back up to around your 21 level and 24 and moving forward when your esser funds are to be depleted and then this is your general instructional supplies office supplies and we still have those of below we're at 19 but once again applying minimal inflationary growth moving forward so our goal is always to see how are you trending and what factors could affect that growth moving forward without trying to overgrow things some of the things that that are um are hiding some of why there's big increase not hiding but they're actually making the increases look worse is because we're bringing back these one-time funds into the general fund in 25 and 26 24 25 and 26 that make it

112look like those increases are higher but it's really something else has been paying for those i believe the positions are going to stay there in 25 26 and so those sr funds are gone that's they're coming back in which makes it look higher than it is ryan could you just confirm one more thing there's a lot of recent chatter in the community that in 2023 there uh we'd be out of money and not able to pay the teachers um could you confirm that based on our current five-year forecast and in 2023 we do have a fund balance and this would be after all staff is paid at 5.5 million and then in the subsequent year in 2024 that it would be 2.6 million positive cash balance so there would be no problems paying our staff

113in either of those years is that correct based on your current forecast you would have an ending cash balance in both 23 and 24 to adequately meet all expenses of the district the the one caveat and 24 i think you're still gonna be okay but there is a caveat there is the district gets funding large funding amounts twice a year in form of property taxes there are you you typically run down your cash balance in 20 um i'm sorry not 20. in in december and january we don't receive that tax revenue and it increases again you should still based off of a 5.5 million ending balance as you go to 24 you should still be in a position it might get tight but you could still cover that interim funds until you get your spring

114settlement to cover all operating expenses of the district you we want to really watch your cash balances at that point we may make a recommendation if you saw you're getting low in a cash balance that you um wait to transfer to the 070 fund until you get those tax settlements so when you get the tax settlements you get in the spring then you transfer money to 070 which might alleviate some of that interim fund if there was potential for an interference deficit by the time you get to probably december january 25 you are going to if nothing else changes um and i'm going to right here in a second if nothing else would change in 2025 then you're going to have issues making payments on general operating including salaries of the district now the reason

115i say that is if the district was to be in this situation you're going to have a state oversight committee in in 2025. um the state won't let you once you are deficit spending in 2024 i think the district had to do this last year you have to submit a funding value not deficit have a negative cash balance so if as this would get closer if nothing else changes you're gonna have the state and directing more things at that point not to say that's gonna happen but if districts that see themselves with negative cash balance in 23 or 22 they're having a lot of contact with the state and possibly a state oversight committee so i'm not saying it's gonna happen arlington but if 25 was currently 22 you'd be having conversations with the state

116when again i would expect the board to be making changes way before that in 25 and 26 because in the fourth and fifth year of any forecast we're too far out to really know the revenue or the expenses and there's foreign it is to project i mean if you if you think about if somebody would have said in 2019 that there's going to be a pandemic that's going to shut the country down for two years they probably would have been committed to a hospital at that point you have no idea what's going to happen if you would have said two years ago that you're not going to have community school and open enrollment expenses things definitely change it doesn't always mean they're going to change for the better sometimes they change for the worse the

117closer you get the the more accurate your forecast projections are what we know is that you know as we showed in those previous graphs here's what your trends are showing us there's nothing to show us that the expenses are going to go down and based off especially the new funding formula there's nothing to say your revenue is going to go up now could there be another esser who knows if they could issue another s or payments you know at the end of this year and that could change your forecast again um not something i want to rely on something that could happen it's happened three times now as they've issued three different asset payments thank you no problem thank you any other questions thank you ryan i appreciate it um this has been months of

118ryan going through things and and working together and ryan i just can't tell you how much i appreciate you um he's very knowledgeable and um he really does a good job for us so thank you ryan thank you you guys have a good night is there a motion to prove the treasurer's recommendation for the five year forecast as presented in march exhibit day so moved second is there any discussion please call the role mrs gabert yes mr hagin yes mrs breese yes dr mason yes mr mish yes passed 5-0 financial committee reports um mr hagin would you mind reading mike carolyn asked me to read these for her uh her voice is kind of going into just for the finance committee report meeting was held on october 27th with ryan gazzone presenting the updated five-year

119forecast also in attendance where dr schreffler dr maine mrs humphries and mrs gabric the five year forecast presented at this meeting has improved over the previous five-year forecast presented in may in the following areas the positive effects of 4 million an sr-3 fund revenue has now been added to the current forecast 235 000 of spending reduction esters is reflected this year there is an increase in revenue due to the increase in residential housing values and a higher real estate tax collection rate this year there is a net overall positive impact to the bottom line based on the way enrollment is now handled that's it karen did you want to say anything um yeah i mean we heard a lot of what we just heard from mr gazzone we're continuing to spend more than we're taking

120in and we can't cut our way out of it special presentations dr schiffer okay good evening everybody uh ben would you roll on the special presentations of our [Music] hello i'm kids farrell high school principal and i'm here with jillian fellers to recognize her as one of our students of the month at burlington high school jillian is the daughter of scott and jodie fellers she is the vice president of character cats club and has been a member for four years jillian is secretary of robbery interact club a member of national honor society spanish national honor society and the fellowship of christian athletes she is a four year leader winner on the varsity volleyball team and has played elite volleyball for seven years after school jillian plans to attend marietta college to study psychology and continue

121her volleyball career jillian is a leader in the classroom her work ethic is second to none she is highly organized and always has her assignments done completely neatly and on time she is not afraid to go above and beyond what is asked of her during to further her learning jillian is always a positive role model to her classmates helping them whenever she can jillian is one of the hardest workers in class she is always determined to do the best that she can on everything she is a very active and energetic young lady who puts her heart into everything she sets out to accomplish jillian is an exceptional role model for her peers she is a leader in our school and is admired not only by other students but by staff she has such a warm

122personality and puts a smile on the face of everyone she comes into contact with throughout the day it is my honor to present jillian this certificate of reward as student of the month at marlington high school congratulations jillian thank you thank you certificate thank you hello again i'm now joined by connor edwards and he's being recognized as our other student of the month at marlington high school connor's the son of nick and andrea edemich he is vice president of rotary internet club leader of the fellowship of christian athletes and a member of the national honor society connor is captain on the varsity football basketball and baseball teams in his free time connor enjoys golfing camping and anything sports related he plans to continue his athletic and academic careers in college connor is a student who

123is a role model in many ways he has shown himself to be a leader in athletics and sets an example of sportsmanship that has been good for others to see academically he has a model student and possesses a strong work ethic he puts forth a great amount of effort in his schoolwork and demonstrates a true desire to understand all material being covered as a result he receives high grades consistently he is willing to seek help when needed and also offers to help when able connor is a young man of character he is honest and trustworthy as well as polite and respectful the pillars of character are evident in every area of his life and he is the type of student we are proud to have at our school it is my honor to present connor

124this certificate of award as student of the month at martinson high school congratulations connor thank you good evening i'm eric students of the month for the month of november for our middle school eighth grader cambria fleck is our first student of the month cambrie is the daughter of elise chaplin she this is her first year here at down in us after moving here from olmsted falls her prayer our history and reading cambry is playing basketball for the news and will run track in the spring she enjoys hanging out with her friends in the little down time that she has but she also loves to travel she's already been able to travel to hawaii bermuda spain france and italy cambria's teachers have been following to share about her cambry is a very talented student and she's

125already making a positive impact to mms she is always well prepared for class and shows in her work we are lucky to have her here another teacher shared cambrie even knew the district this year but she hit the ground running she's a force to be reckoned with she proves time and time again to be an intellectual giant and she continues to power through any challenges thrown in her way the next teacher said cambry is an outstanding student her work is always completed with thoughtfulness and 100 she's always willing to take on challenging problems in the class great job canberra keep up the good work and congratulations our next student of the month is 8th grader kaden tucker caden is the son of jason and julie tucker his favorite classes are reading and language arts he

126is very active outside of class as a member of the yearbook staff student council and in the 8th grade band in his free time he enjoys creating videos using his phone and his drone photography is another hobby he enjoys as well kaden's teacher said this to cheryl congratulations to katie he was voted our student council president he's very organized great with technology and media and willing to help others another teacher said keenan is a member of the percussion section of the band he was also a band-aid for the marching juice and he was a tremendous health this year next teacher said that kate is an extremely kind middle schooler he does what he can to help those around him in addition to be an outstanding student he makes the classroom a better place to be

127cajun is an awesome student he's always the first to help his peers to volunteer he's willing to go the extra mile his phenomenal work ethic and driven nature has made him take on extra responsibilities with the clubs and extracurricular activities and the next teacher said cave displays outstanding leadership in and outside the classroom he goes above and beyond to help those around him and he's always willing to lend a hand no matter what the issue is great job keep up the great work congratulations hi i'm mrs weber principal at lexington elementary and i'm here with olivia baska our kiwanis student of the mom olivia was selected because she always works very hard on her schoolwork she asks questions when needed and she puts forth a tremendous amount of effort and always tries for extra credit

128olivia also has a kind heart and it always includes others it is a pleasure to have her in class olivia keep working harder and successful is what her teacher shared and what we also know about olivia is that she loves reading him now she has a mom dad and a sister and two cats what are their names milo and lilly and they loved camp olivia would like to visit texas visit spring texas because she has family living there and her one of her favorite things to do is to ski [Music] olivia here at lexington elementary and we want to give her this award from our little kiwanis group can we shake your hand good evening i'm mr spandel principal here in washington and i'd like to introduce our kiwanis student of the month landon wilcox

129a couple things that his teachers said about him landon is an incredible student friend and leader in the classroom he is always up for a challenge and takes great pride in completing any task at hand to the best of his ability his work ethic and dedication to setting an example for his peers is refreshing and inspiring even with facebook difficult situation linden will still find ways to do what needs to be done and keep it positive attitude of the need we are so proud of you landon congratulations another positive thing that his teacher said about him is that he is an outstanding example of what it means to be a duke or following in our fifth grade classroom i am continuously impressed by his hard working and persevering attitude whether he is in the classroom

130on the soccer field or interacting with his family at home landon brings his leadership skills and dedication to every space he is in a little bit about landon his favorite subject is matt he has two dogs and two sisters at home and he likes playing games with them in the future a couple things lana would like to do is visit hilton head and hang out at baker mayfield one thing he likes doing his free time is play soccer and football and one of his hobbies is he likes to sing congratulations landon welcome thanks hello my name is mrs beagles and i'm coming to you live from marlborough elementary with bree griggs our kiwanis fifth grade student of the month congratulations brady and i'm going to tell you a little bit about why brady was chosen

131and some interesting acts about breeding breeds is chosen because of this always positive attitude his dedication to learning his constant effort to everything he does and finally his work ethic that compares to no one else brady is also an outstanding role model for all students when it comes to pride expectations so keep working hard now there's some information about three things he lives with his mom and dad he has one sister and a pet dog he likes to travel to his baseball tournaments his favorite subject in school is math and someday he would like to run into any he likes to play baseball and basketball and we absolutely love having you here at marlboro elementary so thank you very much [Music] congratulations to our students um dr maine public participation thank you we have one

132person that would like to um speak to the board rob bertrand 1870 center court and his topic is non-discrimination policy board members how are you this evening thanks for being here in your service well critical race theory may not present a specific and direct problem for our district today it may eventually in the future there are dozens of districts around the country if not hundreds that thought it would never come to theirs the reason a policy prohibiting crt being taught in the marlington school district is necessary comes down to simple accountability without a policy in place it will be more difficult to take action against any teacher or faculty member that incorporates it in the classroom crt now also being referred to as sel or social emotional learning to confuse you is based on flawed

133and destructive assumptions and its actual purpose is the complete opposite of its stated intent its creators in academia and media claim it encourages racial understanding but the truth is that its cynical methodology further divides us when racial understanding and acceptance is a key to our survival as the freest nation on earth defined by britannica crt is quote the view that legal institutions are inherently racist and race itself instead of being biological is a social construct used by white people to further their interest at the expense of people of color therefore in essence crt is not a curriculum but a movement to use false charges of institutional racism to con americans into thinking our history was and remains foundationally racist despite the differences on this board i hope that you would all agree that the american

134dream is still alive and well regardless of one's race creed color or sex and crt teaches the exact opposite of this truth it encourages people to despise traditional values that have nurtured security opportunity and prosperity by turning our backs on historical truths we follow this false narrative to work its destruction into our fabric deep enough to change the color of the very thread of that fabric from something red white and blue to something dark dismal and ugly with its underlying assumption that all white people are racists crt is itself racist now we aren't a perfect nation but when faced with issues like slavery and civil rights historically in every case after mistake debate and even a civil war we got it right if we seek hard truths address the right issues and look for quantifiable

135solutions to issues of race we will continue to get it right but crt robs society of that ability by fundamentally defining american institutions and our history as inherently and systemically racist a majority of americans still believe in and strive to live up to the ideals on which this country was founded and we can continue to do so with measurable compassionate realistic policy solutions not a program that takes the soft bigotry of low expectation to devastating and destructive new lows martin luther king jr himself said that people shouldn't be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character and i'm pretty sure he was speaking about all people of all colors when he made this famous statement last paragraph put in this light why would any school board be a proponent

136of crt to not take a stand against it now by adopting a policy protecting our children from the false truth of its narrative is to actually endorse and support this hateful ideology thank you world business second policy reading of non-discrimination policy is there a motion to approve the updated non-discrimination policy as outlined in exhibit b so move is there a second i'll second it is there a discussion yes um i think that we should follow a policy that we already have before adopting a new policy and it's uh number 1210 the board superintendent relationship and it says policy should not be originated or changed without the recommendation of the superintendent the superintendent should be given the latitude to determine the best method of implementing the policies of the board i want to state again i

137am not for crt but i'm also not for making marlington uh a target and i'm not for doing this in a wrong way um i i'd love there to be a resolution that we make um to you know state that that's not what's uh acceptable here um as far as what i understand that we respect all people equally and um that um that i think that's the way to go but because we have this policy in place that says that the superintendent is supposed to originate or recommend the uh policy changes or policies for the board i would like dr mike to once again give us his recommendation and his understanding i know you've had a conversation with uh mary jo slick about this our attorney and um just give your your input well i'll

138kind of repeat what i've said before this this policy is problematic it will it will undoubtedly cause the district some problems we have at least two attorneys that have told us this um it's in conflict with uh other policies that we have especially our controversial issues policy which is 2240. and we would not be an equal opportunity employer anymore we would be violating some federal mandates with this policy and it it would change working conditions for our staff which probably means an unfair labor practice so i think there are other ways other districts have made statements about critical race theory it's not taught here it's not taught in any high school that i know of or any district that i know of um it's not a policy anywhere to be taught so it's this this

139policy the way it's written would not serve our district well could you go over the specific conflicts with the other policies where where it conflicts with policies so we have a policy in place about teaching controversial issues and that leaves some that leaves up to the professional in the classroom to talk about you know so i've been in the classroom sometimes students bring up controversial issues and i think that we have to trust our staff to handle those issues um because it's this is not part of the curriculum again it's not anything that's in our curriculum different teachers are going to present things differently but we can't police everything that our teachers say we have to trust them that they're and then when if they're not teaching something correctly then we have to address that

140it's like the attorney said this is looking for a problem it's not addressing a problem that exists it's looking to create a problem so i think this is the biggest policy it would affect in the classroom and then it would affect any policy that follows federal guideline on non-discrimination and hiring because you can't just say well for this policy uh that you're the scientific sexual assigned at birth from what our attorneys are saying it doesn't work that way so it would affect any of our policies that say we're equal opportunity we would not be um and again we we don't all like federal policy or state policy we just had a big discussion about state law that we don't like but it's there and it's it exists and i i don't know how i would

141enforce this policy or how the district would enforce this policy um i just have a question for karen since you're so adamantly opposed to critical race theory and you said instead of this policy we should do a resolution or statement do you have any proposed resolution or statement that you put put together for that i have not put it together but we should discuss this further and um i think we should it could this could be table for discussion and we can absolutely do that i am for a resolution i'm absolutely for a resolution just not a board policy that puts a target on us i think i shared a couple a couple months ago a couple statements with the whole board i mean we could come up with that ourselves you know as what

142uh just a resolution in our in our um our stance you know we're a conservative community and that's the other thing that helps us is that has been helped us for years is the relationship with our teachers and how so many of them live here and they know our our morals and they share them um so that's what's important too isn't just it's all employees subcontracted employees volunteers that includes people coming from outside the district such as the esc which as i made clear at our last meeting they participate in a program that kind of pushes the opposite view wow i'm sorry just so you know the esc disagrees with that statement i'm just the messenger disagree did you just talk to them yeah they i just made the statement what what statement do they

143disagree with you they asked for the statement that you read last time they didn't agree with them being part of that that they're for critical race theory and that the court coalition teaches critical theory i i'm just the messenger i just pointed out the fact that they're part of a coalition for what was it uh hold on let me grab my notes real quick well dr mike i'd asked you to talk to mayor joe slick about coming to talk to us instead of executive sessions but out here in public and i see she's not here so where did that go with that conversation so i've never seen an attorney come and address public the attorney talked to me the attorney talked to the board for over probably an hour and a half about this attorneys

144don't come and address the public you are for the public she's never done that in her career she said she doesn't know any attorney that has so i we don't get her to come and discuss everything i just feel like that does kind of i'm sorry i call it shady i just feel that that's kind of shady to me that you can't come here and talk to us about that in general and general public that has concerns for the community and and what i read at the last meeting was just pointing out the fact that they have a they're part of the dismantling racism coalition of stark county are they denying that they're part of that coalition or part of the unity challenge because this is all online anybody can google that just look up

145dismantling racism coalition of stark county and you can see that they're they're in that partnership i can look at it and we're not i don't know anything about that partnership or they're probably in a lot of groups i think it's a united way thing i'm not sure our county health department star county esc all partners so dismantling racism is a bad thing no but it's a misnomer scott they they frame it as one name but it does the opposite esc's working towards racism that's your claim uh in a way yes they're promoting racism by by having a unity challenge purports that systemic racism is embedded in education yes i believe so critical race theory has been around for 50 years that's the part i think a lot of people might be surprised about early 1970s

146critical race theory came into being it's become an issue in the last year and i i think it's interesting and i think you need to wonder who is pulling the strings to make this an issue in the last year wow because in in has it been taught and dr mike says he he doesn't know of any school has been taught it we read and we read on the internet it's been taught places we read other places and yes i there's if if you take any theory to a radical proportion it's wrong we could take virtually any theory you could take way far in one direction i believe our educators have the ability to teach our students i believe our parents have the ability to teach their children i'm not afraid of a theory now if

147we want to ban the theory i'm fine of banning the theory let's ban the theory let's not hide it in a non-discrimination statement this statement all you have to say is critical race theory will not be taught in marlington local school district there's the policy districts and ohio have said that and then after weeks later the people found out that they were teaching it where i mean i can get some of the i mean sources and put them together none that dr mike apparently knows about none that so if we have a policy like that and someone violates it then they violated school policy then they should be fired that falls on the superintendent to do that this policy puts a part b to it which is clearly discriminatory okay it's not josh but you

148were told by a lawyer two lawyers i think i think markling told us something about that too what that second statement but i don't think marrington local school district is the place to make a political statement mark link's contract was canceled before i even read this policy he read and commented you get given it to me and i gave it to him did we get an email from you from him yet from about yeah and he he said i would i'm suggesting they don't make uh policies on critical race theory i don't remember what he said about the statement i mean i'll i would support a statement that says we're not going to teach critical race theory in marlinton i will not support a statement which says there are kids we don't want here it

149doesn't say that at all it absolutely says that josh it does not say that okay okay josh you're so certain of this last week you said oh i'll raise funds to cover the court costs how about you guarantee the court costs are covered how would i guarantee that i don't even know i don't know it's going to be any court costs oh there will be oh you can guarantee that though i can okay if we violate the civil rights act we will we will be called on it i don't think that's a doubt but it's not about making a political statement it's about if you want to protect the children from critical race theory say don't teach critical race theory don't bounce around it with these other things well i think in the community this

150jungle just read that's what he's afraid of he wants no crt in here so i mean if we if that's what if it's just the theory then let's ban the theory if it's if it's actually crt is what crt is either crt crt or something else or is it just a theory what i mean that's what we've got to focus on right so if it's the theory that we don't want to have then let's eliminate the theory you get both and you've got to go both ways with it i mean there's at least the one hand you're you're being proactive and trying to stop it from happening because i don't think any of us agree about this about crt being good to go i don't think it is good the way it's written now that

151they're pushing but it comes from the state level that's the problem so how do we how do we stop the state from pushing the other version that version coming into us by banning the theory to start at least you get your your foot in the door to keep it from happening or at least trying to keep it from happening yeah i agree this this doesn't say this doesn't mention critical race theory this this talks about a lot of things all of which people feel fits critical but it doesn't say don't talk about critical race it's not saying that and no no no saying that where you're going with this josh is completely wrong it's just the way it's written just like it's written maybe we need to figure out a way to combine the two

152to make it so it gets what we want you want to not be here i don't want to be here there's people in this community don't want to be here there's probably people on this board who don't want to be here we already know one two maybe three don't want it well there's four that's five of us that would be fine so there's five of those degree we don't want it here so what do we have to do to make it right that's what it comes down to you don't want it we don't want it we all agreed about that agreed yes no so let's let's adopt it so we can make it right and then let's take care of it so we don't need to have a second reading today this per se let's

153get it so we get it ready and we have a revolution or a motion to do what we need to do to make it right agreed and we're not doing it behind in behind closed doors we're not doing with some attorney we're doing it right here in front of everybody because enough's enough so so what's your recommendation so my recommendation is that we we come up with a we either we have the lawyer come help tweak yours to specifically go to see our to ban crt theory or she has to come in here and help us out do a whole new one and make it right that's our job to help us out as a board to do the right thing to make sure we don't you know cause any more issues and discriminate that

154we don't need to because we're not trying to discriminate we're trying to prevent that from happening correct yes so we can table this for discussion further now hearing that is there are okay to move forward is there a motion to table the second reading of the non-discrimination policy until the december board meeting yes second that's right discussion um you can bring an attorney and then to assist with that um i can or i can't wonder i mean i expected her to be here tonight that's why i'd asked i wanted her to be here and you know and i get that she said she's not gonna come talk about that does this this is important to our district if she's our attorney or a board we needed her here i'm kind of just i'm not taking

155back that she wasn't here for this what we're hearing is the board is interested in making a policy so we need an attorney that's going to assist us with that process okay i'll do my best to find one all right please call the roll mrs gabriel yes mr hagan no mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mish yes passed four one new business um okay good evening again under new business uh i will go down the line here um let's see i think one and two we can put together to vote uh out of state field trips i have a basketball out of state it's been uh it's been done before it's nothing new for us and then i have we are recommending that we have as we have permanent certified subs that we have

156a permanent one permanent aid classified sub and that person would make 75 a day is there a motion to prove the superintendent's recommendation for the following out-of-state field trip as listed in exhibit c to where it in west virginia on december 28th 29th and 30th as well you want these combined we can combine those into one vote as well as uh the same motion to approve the superintendent's recommendation for the permanent classified education assistant subpay rate change to 75 dollars so what'd you say 75 per day it says an hour no yeah we constantly update sorry but mine says per day we need a table okay 275 sorry 75 dollars an hour that might have is there a discussion please call the role mrs gabrick yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes

157mr mish yes passed 5-0 policy committee report um mr hagen yep fine oh i have your notes here she gave it back to me i have nothing taken it back oh here it is there's you have a second page this shouldn't fit here this is it okay so that's it i'm just gonna give carolyn's brief overview since we're have quite a bit more to get to um meeting was held our policy meeting was held on october 13th with ed holland from neola dr schreffler dr mayne nicole deangelis myself mr hagen and mrs gabric were there the fall update of neola's new and revised policies was presented dr mike said these policies will be ready to present to the board in december is that correct is that it yep that's it did you have anything else

158to do i don't have anything to add to that okay and then business advisory update is that one all right all right the canton regional change of commerce education meeting was attended on october 26 2021 business covered was covet update junior achievement virtual inspire career expiration fair update and beyond the games update or beyond the game updates excuse me guys with ties and girls with pearls the featured presentation was a magnet the manufacturing advocacy growth network presented by ethan carp president and ceo is that it that's it and osb capital conference reports if you have one and then there's mine um so i attended the osba capital conference the weekend before last um let me see here i went to a couple sessions let's see here one was systems to mitigate emergency response and also

159one on political speech of staff and students which were very very good to attend let me see here i'm not going to go into much detail on that if anybody has any questions i can go on but we're kind of pushing it on time already did you have anything else or is this yours i have those but you don't have to read them all you can just i'll just give a summary uh the conference was held the 7th 8th and 9th carolyn attended the following sessions meetings and events 2021 case law update uh with court decisions affecting school law first general session with bart connor and nadia comannecchi [Music] inspirational speech supporting their time devoted to education and health and fitness northeast regional executive committee meeting defending your district's tax base with board of revisions

160the annual business meeting of the osba delegates trade show and student achievement fair i went to that as well esser projects i went to that one as well volunteer time for the northeast regional executive booth levy needs assessment overall financial outlook of district and analyzing your current levy structure as well as future financial needs ohio sunshine laws regarding open meeting and public records students social media and speech review the level of authority that a school has over online speech osba board leadership institute focus group planning session for the next board leadership institute and that's that's for that dr mike sure sure so um i think this is my 14th time or more maybe at osba the best session i attended was the pipeline coalition meeting um that was my first experience with the coalition uh

161because you know we were not we didn't meet last year and uh i didn't go when i was at northwest so i really enjoyed um the different folks giving their thoughts about the rover and the nexus pipeline and patty and i both attended that uh talking to districts about you know how are you handling this what are you telling your the public and then the the piece i always like is the you know connecting with folks people that are outside our area we had a lot of nice connection with stark county people other board members other superintendents and administrators um those of us that were there from this group we had a nice chance to go out to dinner together um and the the county had a room where we could eat breakfast together so

162just talking to each other and getting to know each other sometimes it helps to know we're all kind of in the same boat we're all facing a lot of the same things so it was a great great experience i think again this year great to be back together after a year of not being able to i attended some financial update sessions one was covered the fair funding formula and some treasure roundtable conversations and meetings it was it was good to know what other districts are are the status of other districts and how those treasures are are dealing with certain topics that are relevant thank you mr swisher did you want to share any of your capital conference seminars it's my first time having a okay to go to capitol conference um i kind of attended

163a few programs that dealt with uh let's see addressing challenges to behaviors but a lot of student engagement right now probably the biggest thing is dr mike pointing out he's connecting with other superintendents and is about partnerships with universities which really just dealt with teachers thank you treasurer's agenda dr maine thank you um the first item on the treasurer's agenda is to approve the the meeting minutes for october 21st is there a motion to prove uh the following meeting minutes as presented in exhibit d for the october 21st 2021 regular meeting so moved second any discussion please call the role mrs gabrick yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mitch yes pass 5-0 the second item is our monthly financial statements to be approved is there a motion to prove the

164treasurer's recommendation for the financial reports an overview of receipts and expenditures for the period ending october 31st 2021. oh sorry so moved and shown exhibits e f g so second any discussion did you want to go over that a little bit can yes um the first document you received was our our balance for the month and it is in check the second document that you receive would be our checks that went out during the month we did have a check for abatement and [Music] the other ones were pretty regular fuel food utilities etc and the last one is our balances for each fund again um you know 001 is the very first line but you can look at the month to date receipts versus the month to date expenditures which is the second and the

165fourth line and the um the physical year total which is the third line compared to the expenditures in the fifth one any questions through a discussion please call the roll mrs gabriel yes yes mr hagen yes mrs humphries yes dr mason abstain and mr mish yes pass four one the third agenda item is uh an appropriations revision and as you can see it is um for 11 979 and that was our grants for our innovation grants for our teachers um we're just appropriating that money to be spent is there a motion to prove the treasure's recommendation for the amended revenue and appropriations presented in exhibit h second is three discussion please call the link this is mrs gabriel yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mish yes passed by zero and

166the last document that you have for on the agenda items is the donations for october we had one anonymous donor donation to the high school gaming club for 300 audrey and ian aguera um gave a 100 donation to the ashley white stump scholarship and the last one is marlington athletic booster club did a renovation project and we wanted to make sure that um we accept their donation of twenty one thousand seven hundred and seventy five dollars and nine cents is there a motion to approve the treasurer's recommendation for the donations for october 21 as presented in exhibit so moved second misery discussion i just think um the booster club is amazing and um twenty one thousand seven hundred seventy five dollars um we know over and over how much they've done for marlington and um

167i really appreciate that listen i would like thank all of our donors um please mrs gabrick yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mish yes pass 5-0 personnel okay personnel if we could i'd like to do all the resignations and retirements that can be one vote so that's one through four we have one certified resignation elizabeth duramo we have one classified retirement that's regine cole rogine was our food service director we have one we have a couple of classified resignations melissa lanham vicki dixon elaine hawthorne and ashley ellis and then we have one supplemental staff tom gaskins resigned from assistant band over the summer and we needed to get a uh resignation letter from him those are our resignations for tonight is there a motion to prove the superintendent's recommendation and

168presentation for certified resignations classified retirement classified resignation and supplemental staff resignation as presented second sorry discussion please call the roll mrs gabriel yes mrs mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mish yes pass 5-0 uh classified hires uh we have vicki dixon so vicky just you saw just resigned from the high school vicky is going to sort of replace regine so rogine was an administrator we made the job not an administrator but an administrative secretary so vicky will do the lion's share of what rogin did but vicky will also pick up some other duties so it sort of saves us money rogine did not work over the summer vicky will work over the summer so she can pick up some of those things some of the things with business in the bus

169garage so it's i think it's a win-win and um we are sad to see rogin lately but we love vicki and we're glad to have her uh come to this position and then christopher baker he will be custodian for us step three and then lindsay lovett classroom aid step zero is there a motion to prove the superintendent's recommendation for the classified hires as presented so moved second is there any discussion please call the role mrs gabrick yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mish yes pass 5-0 supplemental staff hire eric seiters is going to be coaching middle school wrestling for us so eric we'll start on step one is there a motion to approve the superintendent's recommendation for the supplemental staff irs presented so moved second any discussion please call the

170role mrs gabrick yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mish yes past five years i have one classified sub for you kim denisio and she will be a bus aid sub is there a motion to prove the superintendent's recommendation for the classified substitute higher as presented so moved second sorry discussion please call the role mrs gabric yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mish yes pass 5-0 and then we have one i had asked you if we could create a permanent classified aid and that's going to be sarah milosevic is there a motion for the superintendent's recommendation for the permanent classified educational assistant as percentage so moved second any discussion please call the roll mrs gabriel yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr

171mish yes pass one permanent preferred sub so liz deramo asked us to resign from her teaching job but she would like to just send sub for us and she'd be a preferred sub which means she will only sub at marlington so i have her to approve there is there a motion to pay the superintendent's recommendation for the permanent certified sub as president don't move second a discussion please call the roll mrs gabriel yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mish yes pass 5-0 i have one transfer for you a lot of times the board doesn't need to approve transfers but this one you do cindy was a custodian for us and cindy is transferring into a sweeper job so it's way less days less pay so cindy's making a kind of

172a different move so i'd like the board to approve that move so cindy gainer is going from custodian to sweeper and then she'll be on step three is there a motion to prove the superintendent's recommendation for the transference percentage so moved second any discussion please call the rule mrs gaber yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mitch yes test 5-0 the next board of education meeting will be december 16 2021 at 6 30 pm is there a motion to adjourn second any discussion please call them mrs gaber yes mr hagan yes mrs humphries yes dr mason yes mr mitch yes thank you everybody you