Oberlin City Schools Board of Education Meeting - 01/13/2026

001Good, Steve. >> All right. Welcome everybody tonight. We're going to start off the meeting with our budget hearing for the 2026 2027 school year. This is required by the state that every year the board has a budget hearing and we go over federal grants also. So currently I we are estimating our un unencumbered balance as of July 1st 2026 to be $42,268,64545. We plan to bring in 8,398,500 in real estate taxes, 350 thou or 3.5 million in state foundation money that is um restricted and non-restricted state money for and then other receipts will be 11,311,000 dollars for so total revenue that the district will have to spend 10 will be 65,467,96545. We are estimating expenses to be for that year 45,467,000. Most of that will be 32 million of that will be for the building

002project. um leaving us an end ending balance of $20,96545. And the other revenue is where the um federal grants are and state grants. We are estimating that to be about $1.5 million um depending on what they do. That is a higher number because we have qualified for grants in the past. We didn't get them this year, but we are going to reapply for them next year for our reading program and other um preschool grants from the state. So, are there any questions on the budget? If not, we'll end the budget hearing and >> the show is yours. I call to order this January 13, 2026 organizational meeting of the Oberlin City Schools Board of Education. Please call the role. >> Miss Anderson White >> here. >> Miss Gatson >> here. >> Miss George >> here.

003>> Miss Garrett >> here. >> Miss Stagel >> here. >> Okay. We have four new members. So I will ask Miss Anderson White to stand and read her oath of office. Raise your right hand, please. I, Charita Anderson White, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Ohio and the policies of Overland City School District. During my term, I will faithfully and impartially discharge the responsibilities of the office to the best of my ability. >> Thank you, >> Miss Gatson. I, Rosa Gadston, do solely swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Ohio and the policies of Overberland City School District. During my term, I will faithfully and impartially discharge the responsibilities of

004the office to my best to the best of my ability. >> Thank you, >> Miss George. I, Melissa George, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constit Constitution of the state of Ohio and the policies of Overland City School District. During my term, I will faithfully and impartially discharge the responsibilities of the office to the best of my ability. >> Thank you, Mel. I, Joanne Stagel, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Ohio and the policies of Overland City School District. During my term, I will faithfully and impartially discharge the responsibilities of the office to the best of my ability. >> Thank you. Um, and now I will entertain a motion to adopt the

005agenda for the organizational meeting. >> So moved. >> Second. >> It has been first and seconded. Are there any changes? >> No. >> Please call the role. >> Miss Anderson White? >> Yes. >> Miss Gatson? Yes. >> Miss George? Yes. >> Miss Garrett? >> Yes. >> Miss Dagel? >> Yes. >> Motion carried. Uh now I will entertain nominations and election of for the board president for 2026. >> I nominate Joanne Steagel for president. >> Seconded. >> Second. >> Okay. >> It has been moved and seconded. Is there any discussion? Oh, are there any other nominations? >> No. Thank you. No. >> Is there any discussion? Nope. >> Well, thank you. >> Please call the role. >> Miss Anderson White? >> Yes. >> Miss Gadson? >> Yes. >> Miss George? >> Yes. >> Miss Garrett? >>

006Yes. >> Miss Tagel? >> Yes. >> And now we will take nominations um and election of the board vice president for 2026. >> I nominate uh Miss Garrett for the vice president. >> Second. Any other nominations or discussion? >> Please call the role. >> Miss Anderson White? >> Yes. >> Miss Gatson? >> Yes. >> Miss George? >> Yes. >> Miss Garrett? >> Yes. >> Miss Stagel? >> Yes. >> Okay. And now we will have the swearing in of those offices. Stagel, would you like to stand and start? >> I, Joanne Stagel, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Ohio, and will perform faithfully the duties of the President of the Board of Education of the Oberlin City School District, Lorraine, Ohio, during

007my continuence in office. I, Janet Garrett, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the state of Ohio will perform faithfully the duties of the Vice President of the Board of Education of the Oberlin City School Districts, Lorraine County, Ohio, during my continuous in office. >> Thank you. Congratulations. >> Round of applause for >> Okay. And now we're going to um establish the meeting dates and times. All meetings are held um here at Overland Elementary School at 6 PM unless otherwise noted. Did everyone have a chance to look at the dates? I had one conflict. October 20th falls during Overland College um fall break and I'm hoping we can move that to the 27th instead. Anybody and for October October currently October 20th is what's on the agenda. Bob

008can't be here on the 27th, which is why it was moved to the 20th. >> But we can we can assign a >> Yeah, one of you could be the treasurer for the meeting. >> It's just taking down notes. It's not anything big. >> Does that work for everyone? >> The 20th is a Wednesday. >> Um >> 20th a Tuesday and the 27th a Tuesday. Move it to Yeah, just move it to the following Tuesday. >> We don't vote on that one. >> Well, >> it's part of >> it. The vote should be above because you will vote. Yes. >> Great. Um Joan, yes, we already have that down on our calendar for the 27th for >> October 27th. It says October, >> right? But it's which Are you moving it up or >> Well,

009October 27th is when our meeting would normally be in on >> for these dates. It was for the 20th. >> Okay, got it. >> But we're going to move it to the 27th, which is when our normal meeting date would be anyway. We just won't have Bob. >> Correct. >> Any other discussion? So, let's go ahead and call the role. >> Well, we got it. >> Oh, >> motion. >> Moved. >> Thank you. >> Second. >> It has been moved and seconded. So, now we will call the role. >> Miss Anderson White. >> Yes. >> Miss Gatson. >> Yes. >> Miss George. Yes. >> Miss Garrett. Miss Tag. Yes. >> Oh, great. So, now we're moving on to um board committees and our street strategic planning subcommittees. Um so, I guess Ken Stanley is still

010on this which is not >> correct. >> That's Anderson White. >> And then Miss Amecha is also gone. Oh, Miss Sham will still stay on as our JBS because that's a three-year term through JBS. >> Yes. >> Um, so Miss Garrett, you are currently the school board association let us legislative leaison. Do you want to stick with that one? >> Yes. >> Great. >> Um, Melissa, is there anything Sorry, Miss George. Is there anything specifically that you are interested in as far as these committees go? >> Um, town and gown. Excellent. Um, and then I would like to have a second person on the finance committee. Well, I wouldn't say I enjoy that committee. I feel like it's an important one. Um, so I will stay on it, but if we could get a second

011person to join that committee. We try to meet about four times a year. Um, usually at 8 o'clock in the morning, we can adjust that time depending on people's availabilities. There are six other community members that are on the committee. >> Um, we try to do it twice before the It's going to be hard now with the new five-year forecast being in August and we don't have a July meeting. So, um, but yeah, it would require a meeting in early August for us to go over the five-year forecast another in December for the February forecast and then probably one in April or May. We could probably limit it to three meetings if that's what the committee wants to do or we can still have four, but it's just going to be tough with now the

012way that the three three plus a year forecast has to be done in August and in February. This committee is a really great way to start to understand how school finance works because it is it's very complicated, but Bob does a great job um explaining it. >> I gotta do Okay, Joanne, since I was able to watch last year, I will I will volunteer to be on the finance committee. Awesome. >> Thank you, Miss Anderson White. But we can we talk about the time though? >> Sure. >> Thanks. >> We talk about that. >> We can start at 6 in the morning. That's not a problem. >> Thanks. That's what I was aiming for. >> Yeah, that's what I mean. >> Um and then policy committee. Um Miss Garrett, do you think you could join

013me on policy committee? >> How many times do you need >> that one? is about two or three times a year. >> Yeah, we get updates from um >> Neiola who does our policy. >> Usually in the fall and early spring, >> one in the fall, one in the spring. It's a Zoom meeting. >> We hope you don't meet at 8:00 in the morning. >> 11 or some of them are longer, but you can leave when you need to. >> I'm sorry. Which committee did? >> That was the policy committee. And I'll stay on that one with you. Um, >> who's on technology now? >> Um, >> this says I think I am >> Anderson Y. Yes. >> Do you want to stay on that one? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, >> Miss Gatson, currently

014you're on town in gown. I would like to stay there now that I've had my first initial meeting >> since I've been added to the thing finally >> um and then >> George was going to be on there with me. >> I am current Yeah, I am currently on the endowment board which is a really fantastic fun board. It does meet about once a month. Um, I'm happy to hand that over to someone if someone else would like it. I'm also happy to continue continue on that one. That one's really fun because we get to give money to teachers and students who apply for grants. >> I will go with that if you want to hand it off. >> Yeah. >> And we can and we can have two people. So, I might still, you

015know, stop in sometimes, but I'll put you down for that one. That would be excellent. You could always be a community member. >> Oh, that's true. Or a parent. >> So many options. >> Okay, I think that's good. So, now we will go down to strategic planning. Um, I'm definitely going to stay on educational planning. I've been on that one since before I got on the board. Um, so we need to put someone on facilities and finance and then we can have up to two people on each committee. So is there any committee that anyone feels strongly about? >> Just clarification, these committees meet about three to four times a year. So um, periodically you may have one big one come together. So >> and they align they all align with our strategic plan. Yeah,

016they're usually about usually at four o'clock at the afternoon. >> Jan, may I ask Janet, are you going to stay on uh student and family support? >> I would be happy to join you on that committee. >> Do you want to stay on student and family support or would you like to the meeting that we had >> over at the high school. >> There was like 50 people there. What committee was there? >> So that was the strategic plan. So our strategic plan technically ended and we're reviewing the that was to review the strategic plan. So that wasn't a specific committee. That was a >> Okay. Yeah. Okay. I just don't remember. >> Have you >> called to this meeting? >> Okay. >> Well, there you go. >> And had seem to have met or

017at least they didn't tell me they were meeting. >> That's the one communications with Melissa's own area. I think you've attended a couple of those with um going over like rebranding. >> Yeah. So, you were you were on two. >> Okay. And you don't need to be on two. If you want to just stay on communications and Miss Anderson White can take over the student and family support. >> Um, if that's the case, I'd like to join. >> You want to join? >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> The student and family support. >> Yeah. >> Great. >> And Miss Gatson, you'd like to stay on communications? >> Um, I'll be honest. I again did not get any of those uh meeting uh notes so I have not really participated in that which >> it's cool.

018Um however the facilities is what I'm >> interested in. >> That's great. >> So I'll come off of that and go on to facilities. Um, so my choice. So now communications. Miss Garrett, did you want to stay? >> Oh, you're going to stay on communications. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> And that's all of them. >> Excellent. And then Bob will make sure that everyone's on the right distribution list so you'll get your invitations to your meetings. >> Yes. Can we go through these to make sure that I have them correct? >> Yes. >> So, legislation will be Miss Garrett. Miss George will be endowment. Miss Anderson White will be technology policy committee will be Garrett and Stagel. Finance will be Anderson Anderson White and Stagel. And town and gown will be George and Gatson. >>

019And then community will be Garrett. Communication will be Garrett. Educational programming committee is mistagle Anderson White and Gatison from facilities and finance. >> No one wants just me. Okay. >> All right. >> We'll take >> and then Anderson White and George for >> student and family support. Perfect. >> We'll make sure Steve gets all those updated. >> Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. And now we will move on to board items A through I. >> Can I get a motion to approve? >> No, we did that up here. >> She appoints all the >> Those are appointments >> by board policy. >> So can I get a motion to approve board items A through I? >> We do that. So moved. >> Second. Do you want to go through those? >> Sure, I can go

020through those. So, first is the tax budget. Again, um if you'd like, I can repeat it, but again, this is just the first scenario. We haven't finished this year to know what our ending balancers are going to be. We are planning to go out the bid for the building project. Depending on when the board approves those bids, it will bring down probably the construction project fund because that money will become encumbered. But as of right now, I'm not sure when we're going to do that as a board. So, I didn't put it in there. But the money will still be encumbered and it'll be available. It just won't be a starting balance at the beginning of the year. But other than that, we should find out. I know um we are working on the grants

021like I said earlier. So closer to June when we have our do the actual budget for next year we will have know what grants we're going to qualify for and what grants we won't qualify for. So we'll update it then also. So and then we update it again in September. So you'll have at minimum of two more times to update it prior to the next June. Um, next on there is to approve me to attend the um or I'm sorry to approve the to approve me to ask for advances on our property tax dollars to from the Lorraine County auditor. And normally we get two advances and then final payment. So this is just so we get our money earlier so that the countyy's not hanging on to it. Um once it's collected, they'll usually

022give us two in two in February and then one in March or one in April depending on how the dollars are rolling in. So, and then it's to authorize me to invest all our inactive funds. We have active funds that we use to pay payroll daily expenses and then we have um we invest inactive funds funds that I don't feel that we're going to um need in the fiscal year. So and those funds are invested with a advisor and he takes care of making sure that our financial policy and that he doesn't invest in anything that he's not allowed to invest in. So currently our portfolio brings in about four and a half percent on a year. So and that gets divided up between the general fund, the construction project fund and als and then

023also the um fund that we established in 070. Those are the only three accounts that get interest. Next is to dispense with me reading the minutes at every board meeting. because nobody wants to do that please. >> Next is the employment of the five following legal councils. Um we use different companies for they specialize in certain things. Um so we pick and choose. They also move a lot. Um, so at times we will be adding some and we might take some off because we did find out our special ed lawyer just moved companies and became a partner of another firm. So we'll probably stay with her, but we'll add that later on in the year. Um, next is to join OSBA. The annual membership is $6,773. The next is to um join their legal assistance

024fund which is $250 and that gives us we anybody any administrator from the school district can call OSBA and get an opinion. They won't put it in writing but they'll at least give us opinion to make sure we're looking down the right path. >> And then we have um the petty cash fund. Um, we have $100 in for the cafeteria, $200 in the board office to reimburse people that buy things, and then the athletic for the gates at all the sporting events is $1,500. And we have to do that yearly. And then last and not least is designate me to set through three hours of public records training for all of you that just got elected. >> Nobody wants to do that. >> Good for you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So, is there any

025discussion? So, if you could go ahead and call the role. Bob. >> Miss Anderson White. >> Yes. >> Miss Gatson? >> Yes. >> Miss George? >> Yes. >> Miss Garrett? >> Yes. >> Miss Stagel. >> Yes. And now I will entertain a motion to adjourn the organizational meeting and then we'll start our regular meeting. >> Move. Second. >> It has been moved and seconded. Can you call the roll, Bob? Miss Anderson White, >> yes. >> Miss Gatson, >> yes. >> Miss George, >> yes. >> Miss Garrick, >> yes. >> Miss Stel, >> yes. >> 625. >> Excellent. And now I will entertain a motion to adopt the agenda for the regular meeting for January 13, 2026. >> Moved. >> Second. >> It has been moved and seconded. Are there any changes? >> No. Not this

026time. >> No. Great. So, let's go ahead and call the role. >> Miss Anderson White. >> Yes. Scatson. Yes. >> Miss George. >> Yes. >> Garrett. >> Yes. >> Miss Stagel. >> Yes. So, next we're going to have citizens concerns on agenda items. >> Excellent. So, um you have three minutes to speak. You'll come up, state your name and address and how you are related to the district and um then you'll have three minutes to tell us your concerns. Anybody that signed up, do you want to talk about the agenda or do you have personal items that come at later on in the meeting? >> Or did you just think that you needed to sign in when you got here? >> Okay. >> At the end. >> Okay. >> Is everybody at the end? >>

027Yeah. There'll be another opportunity at the end of the meeting. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> None then. >> Excellent. Then we will go ahead and move on to presentation and news of note. Dr. Hall, >> we have a couple announcements. Um, January is Board of Education Month. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank our outstanding board members, Mrs. Joanna Stagel, Mrs. Janet Garrett, Miss Rose Gasson, Miss Charlita Anderson White, and our new board member, Miss Melissa George. Um, on behalf of the Oakland City School community, we extend our sincere appreciation to our board of education members for their dedication, dedicated service, thoughtful leadership, unwavering commitment to the student success. Your countless hours, difficult decisions, and steadfast advocacy ensure that every student has opportunity to learn, grow, and thrive. We are grateful to have

028you have your service to our students, family, staff, and community. And I also like to present you with certificates as well. Thank you. >> Nice. >> It hasn't been that long, sir. >> Like to thank you for your service as well. I know you get the phone calls at night. Um my text messages at night. um school closing school and all that information. So, thank you for all your time you put in. Um please give him a round of applause because I know it's a thankless job. >> Thank you. >> I also like to announce our December magazine was delivered to all residents in 4474. If you didn't receive your copy, there's an extras in the back of the room. Um the next magazine will be mailed out in June. And this our magazine here.

029If you have not received one of these, if you're in the 44074 area or if you like to see one, there also we'll have them at the public library the over the library as well. And this kind of uh magazine we go out as far as our marketing and highlight things that's going on with the district. And we also like to thank our um community members who donated spaces and um paid for spaces within the magazines to help the school district as well. Another announcement, Eco Olympics will once again be held this year. This date, the dates are for Eco Olympics is March the 1st and March the 15th. 2026 opening ceremonies will be held from 2 to 4:00 p.m. on Sunday, March 1st in the Adam Joseph Lewis Center on Overland College campus. This

030year, we decided to move the opening ceremony around. Um, traditionally it's been at our school system, but our committee decided to move it around a little bit so it'll be held at the college this year and the college open their doors for the community to come in. Um, this event is open to all the public. You can expect a torch run, free cookies, lemonade, musical performances, live screen printing or free store popup and more fun and engagement during that time. Eco Olympolympics is a week-long activity where we kind of um I'm sorry, two week long activity where we honor um and try to conserve energy, educate our students on um different areas they can be um e economic e economically um sound um throughout the school year. Um you'll see notice a lot of students

031within um district shutting off lights in your homes and those things. It's okay. We've told them to do that to conserve energy. So that's part of our initiative as well. >> Will we be be bringing the students to the opening ceremonies? >> Yes. Yes. >> Also like to give a shout out to um Lincoln Middle School principal, Mrs. Sheila Hicks for well attended readathon that was held on Monday, January the 5th. The story appeared in both local newspapers, the Morning Journal and the Yria Chronicle Telegram. Uh for community members and board members, you'll see our bulletin board that we have on State Route 58. This will be changed on Monday, January 26. So look for it as you drive into Overland heading towards the south. The boulevard at this time will highlight our open enrollment

032dates. Try and encourage open enrollment members to come um students to come to the district as well. So you'll look for that. Um heading north down or course heading south down 58. Blocks also like to announce our graduation date as well. Um that takes a little time to formulate our graduation date because we have to work with our state track meet. Um we have to work with the district and regional times as well. Um this year our graduation will be held May the 30th at 7 p.m. at Fenny Chapel. Due to the it's 7 pm due to um track meet that we have to work around um allowing students time to get back from um from the track meet as well. So that's May the 30th at 7 PM and we'll post that on our

033website. Tonight we have a couple presentations. One of our first presentations we have from an environmental design group. They will provide information to us. We met with the city and also environmental design group for a project they're doing with the city um and also with the community as well. Uh they requested a tiff and CR and a CRA as well. They're going to go over information tonight about um what a TIFF is and CRA as well. Um so they've been working handinhand with us to um to make this initiative happen. It's part of the collaboration with the city of trying to revitalize the city as well. Um making new initiatives coming for for our community and also students as well. And I'll turn over our presentation to um Carrie from the city. >> Can you

034make sure that's on up at the top? Thank you. >> Good evening. Um my name is Carrie Porter. I'm the planning and development director for the city. Um and with me tonight is Jennifer 6 um from Environmental Design Group and I believe we'll have Gerard Nujabau also from Environmental Design Group um on Zoom. Um the city has hired them to help us with different economic development projects. Um, a couple things that or economic development tools that we would like to utilize which would involve the schools um are the creation of a community reinvestment area and um some the creation of a few tiff districts or tax increment financing districts. Um so Jennifer and Gerard are going to do a presentation about that and explain what those are and how the schools would be involved with

035that. Thank you. >> Thanks Carrie. Good evening. Congratulations to the new board members. I've run a couple levy campaigns in the past and I I've never been a board member, but I do feel your pain. So, my name is Jennifer Six. I've been with uh as a consultant with the city of Overberlin. This is uh going on I think year two, two and a half or so. And my colleague Gerard Nujabar is joining remotely because he is a city councilman in the city of Green. And so he's in a on a break right now and he has to to run right about uh 6:55. So we'll get right into it, but there's no action required on your part tonight. We're not asking you for anything. This is more of an education on widely used incentive

036programs throughout the state of Ohio. The first one, as Carrie said, community reinvestment area, also known as CRA. The other one is tax increment financing, also known as TIFF. These are all regulated by the Ohio Revised Code, but they do allow cities to attract development that they might not otherwise be able to attract without certain incentive tools. And as the cost of construction materials and tariffs, as those continue to escalate, new development and renovations become increasingly more difficult. Programs like these support new construction. They also support renovation of existing structures. And specifically, we're targeting new housing for young adults, empty nesters, young professionals. Um, and that will bring additional amenities that can be used widely throughout the community at large. And Gerard, can you hear us? >> Yes, I can. >> Perfect. We certainly can.

037Yes. All right. So Gerard's going to start off with TIFFs and what a TIFF is and how we might be able to deploy TIFF in a district uh in the city of Oberlin. >> Well, thanks for having me everybody. Uh sorry I couldn't be there. I'm a councilman in Green uh Ohio and we have council meetings tonight. I'm actually in the gap between our committee meetings and our regular meeting and so I have a hard stop just before 7 or yeah just before 7 p.m. So uh I'm looking at the first slide tax increment financing. It's an economic development tool that lets uh cities and townships use property taxes from new development to pay for public improvements such as roads, utilities, or other infrastructure in that area. Uh often times when we have development uh

038the roads and and other facilities aren't quite what we'd like them to be and so this gives us the opportunity to move them forward. Um how it works uh when the property is improved it's incremental value increase uh generates extra taxes uh and those taxes are redirected to the city. They don't go directly through the county but they get collected by the county and redirected to the city. The city through an agreement with the school district will pay uh the school uh portion of those um collected payments and then have the rest to do financing whether they bond that work or whether they uh do other financing um terms then that provides the revenue streams to to undertake that work. Uh why use a tiff? It creates a long term revenue source outside of income

039tax for constructing and maintaining public infrastructure. So this allows us to uh not uh impact uh the income tax structure in the community uh for development. Certainly we know residents uh don't agree with that typically uh anyhow uh they think the development should pay for the improvements not the the residents. Next slide. under tiff districts. Uh so we have two different type of tiffs that we use. Uh generally if it's a commercial building we do those standalone. We'll bring on a business uh if they invest one two five $10 million uh that incremental value will be brought in individually. Um and that money will go to a fund within the city. When we do residential tiff, u we generally do them in districts probably because residences are lower in value and it's a it's a

040simpler way to do the accounting. So a district is a collection of contiguous parcels not exceeding 300 acres. Uh it's it can be compromised of residential, commercial, and industrial zoning uses. Um and that tip district just like that district that you would use for commercial useh would the percent of the tiff and the term. Uh typically the maximum is 100% of the value could be redirected and up to 30 years. Um the one that we're considering in Oberlin is the West Lraine Street corridor uh where there's 119 acres available. Um uh it's zones suburban, residential, traditional neighborhood, neighborhood, mixed use, and institutional. And we would be recommending a 100% tiff in that district for 30 years. Um and that area then would be uh used for single family homes, uh institutional and commercial uses. Um

041and so mixed use is another really favorable thing to do uh in a tiff district. Next slide. Uh just briefly um uh the proposed development in this case would add single family residential homes in uh the residential uh area and also then bring mixed use into the the center street. uh and uh both would have their appeal. Uh probably families would be in in more of the the suburban residential use and then young professionals, college students uh typically would like to see that that mixed use uh where they like to be uh in that corridor uh where they have that energy. And so the the West Line Corridor would have that development mix of those things mixed in with some some business uh small restaurants, uh, bookstores, those types of things that, uh, that really

042mix well with the residential use. All your existing land controls remain the same. All the zoning uh, requirements are met. Uh, the tiff doesn't impact that, but what it does do by putting in a tiff is then allows you to build the infrastructure that you need. So in the residential area to put in the road for the for the homes and along the main route. It allows you to do the the trails, sidewalks, streetscaping to create the sense of space that really attracts people uh to those to those areas and those businesses. I'll move to the next slide. Um this is just reiteration. um the infrastructure in the tip district uh I just mentioned to build the roadway uh provide uh open spaces and places and provide convenient access to neighborhood businesses. Um and then

043the next slide why create the tiff district. Um, as we started, it can be used uh to secure long-term financing uh to make public improvements uh including uh construction and extension of residential streets. Um, it utilizes the expansion of property tax to enhance public infrastructure. Uh, and TIF is not a new tax um nor is it an exemption of property tax. It's just a redirection uh from your typical county collected taxes um to to the city and and through the city to the school. Um it alleviates the burden of public uh financing public infrastructure improvements solely with income tax revenues and frees up your general fund dollars to do other community enhancements. U and again this strengthens your workforce, your tax base, property values and provides an economic boost uh to the surrounding businesses. So

044that's that's um in a nutshell what a tiff would provide. Um and uh the tip district that I mentioned there's a boundary on the next slide that shows um to the left uh that's that's the suburban residential area to the north. Again that's suburban residential area. Then along this center there would be the mixed use area. Um and that's what I have. any questions uh in regard to TIFF? I know Jennifer is going to talk a little bit about the CRA and then perhaps uh we can talk about um the value of having a school compensation agreement. >> Okay. Thank you. >> We have any questions? >> Thanks, Gerard. Okay, we're going to move on to CRA. while tiff districts as Gerard said redirects tax revenue based on the value of the increment that's created

045as a result of vertical construction right uh a CRA will actually act as an abatement of those taxes and typically well I guess let me just let me just start by saying any agreement that we would ever bring to you we hold you harmless and we have already talked with the with Dr. Hall and McBob that we will keep the school district whole. So please understand that in any circumstance where we ever were to come to you with a tiff or a CRA, we are keeping the school whole. So that said, the Ohio Revised Code 3735 and 579 for CRA and TIFF respectively guide the process for how to create a boundary for a CRA, how to create a boundary for a TIFF district and the mechanisms with which inside in a community reinvestment area.

046While we would love that to think that a developer or a company would come in and just do everything on their own dime, we are competing with other cities. we are competing with other states for jobs and for families and so these incentive tools are in place so that we can attract development that we want and in a lot of times make a good development really really good by offering tax abatement in a CRA taxes are abated for a period of time at a certain percentage Ohio revised code allows for 100% up to 15 years case by case negotiated on the merits of each deal that's brought before the city. So the the nice thing about a CRA is we can help a manufacturing company save taxes for the first say 10 to 15 years

047of an agreement. Again, keeping the school whole. But what that does is that allows them to redirect what they would have otherwise paid in taxes into a project. A CRA. To establish a CRA, you have to show that your community has not been able to benefit from a lot of development in the past, meaning you have underutilized development. And in Oberlin, we can um absolutely make that case. And we will be bringing um something to you in the near future um for a new affordable housing complex um that is going to be asking for a CRA. So, in any case, in any incentive, there's a but for clause. But for incentives, this project would not be able to move forward. And so, we're never going to bring you anything that would happen anyway. We're going

048to we're going to be able to meet that but for clause for you. The C the city does have a CRA and an enterprise already zone already in place. There is a downtown CRA, but I don't think it's been utilized ever or in years. >> Ever. Okay. So, um, and we also have an enterprise zone. Back when personal property tax was a thing, an enterprise zone was a great tool because you could also abate personal property tax. That's kind of gone by the wayside, but the city does still have an enterprise zone and it is in effect. So, again, everything's driven by the Ohio Code. The benefits of of having the CRA is it's just again, it's a tool that we can use to compete. Uh we work with team Neo and the state of

049Ohio department of development a lot and we're fielding leads all the time and Carrie gets these uh companies that are coming in and they're looking at and incentives are never the top but they're always the icing on the cake. That's the deal breaker. That's how we can help lure companies in here. That's how we can help bring in new housing developments. That's how we can bring in what we're talking about with mixed use districts and and ways to incentivize companies to come to Oberlin because we also want to provide a benefit to the residents and the community at large. Thank you. You can skip that. Great. So the process of creating a CRA is to complete a housing study which we have already done and move through the process of formal approvals um through the

050state of Ohio. So, you have to certify your CRA with the state of Ohio and we're working through that process now. And then what you'll see come before you will in likely in February be what we're calling a school compensation agreement. And what that does, let me back up real quick. Uh on a CRA, the Ohio Revised Code allows for the city to move forward with a tax abatement project if it does not exceed 75% or 10 years. we only have to provide you 14 days notification and we can move forward and we can pull that tax revenue. That's not what we're proposing here. What we want to be able to do is to work at the speed of business and provide certainty to you, to the community, to the city, to the developer, to

051the manufacturing company that we already have a process in place. So what this Oh, you can skip Dr. Hall. Sorry. the school compensation agreement. It helps with the timing, too, because if we didn't have a school compensation agreement in place with you and we wanted to exceed that 75% threshold or that 10-year threshold, we would have to come to you 45 days prior to approving anything and ask for your approval. And that's tough for some businesses or some developers developers that are really trying to move forward. They don't have any certainty on whether or not you're going to approve this agreement. What we're asking you, not tonight, but in February when we come back, we're going to be reviewing the draft of a school compensation agreement that would wave your ability to that for the

05245day notice. There would still be a 14-day notification period, but the school compensation agreement will also outline that it will make you whole and that we will provide you 14-day notification. That provides certainty to the city that they know that they can get a project started to you to know that you'll be made whole and to the developer or that company that's looking to come into the city or expand within the city that yeah, we've got an agreement with the school and we're ready to move forward. And that's how you move at the speed of business. And I I I used to work in local government and we would be like, yeah, we move at the speed of business. But cities just they can't unless they have tools in place that allow them to do

053so. And that's what we'll be proposing to you in February. Can you explain what you mean by making the schools whole? Because with a tax abatement, they we wouldn't be getting any taxes from families that are moving into these new houses, right? >> This the the CRA is more directed toward manufacturing and companies using that. I mean, I think that I don't know that we would be offering a blanket CRA for residential. that would that would not be the plan. The the CRA would be more for commercial and industrial applications. >> Okay. So, what do you mean by making the schools whole? Then >> the revenue that you otherwise would have received without an abatement, you'll still get during the abatement period. >> The tax >> from who? >> From the project itself. Gerard, are

054you still on? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Did you want to weigh in on that? as as far as far as keeping keep keeping the school district whole. >> Yeah. So, um you know, we have different communities do things a little differently. Um and um the example in green um the schools get a percentage of what they would have had uh through an agreement that we have uh through the school compensation agreement. So on tiffs they get 85% of of what they would have had and on CRAAS they get 65% a minimum of 65% of what they would have had otherwise and um our our tax structure is a little different. Um when we reviewed the the tax um the various levies uh that were on um on the books here in Overland um we felt

055that um that that wasn't necessary to ask the to take um less than 100% of what they would have had otherwise. Um and so um we intend to to have an agreement that states that you'll get 100% of what you would have had otherwise. But in some cases it makes sense for the community uh to um you know to change their objectives and and make it work with with with less. So um typically the state requires an agreement with the if we exceed 75% and in both cases here uh we look like we want to do 100% of the value both for a tiff and 100% for the CRA but with the CRA we can we can have a direct payment to the schools in the amount that you would have received um had that

056gone on the rolls of the the county property tax. And so in that way really what I think Jennifer mentioned it briefly. What what we're looking for is certainty. We want to have a relationship with our schools that um when we start negotiations with with a developer that we know what we can offer because we we have that relationship. And so we can start we know the terms they know the terms and um they all get the same deal. Um, I think that consistency is good, too. They they know it because it's codified. And so, uh, we found it to be really effective way to to show that community unity that we're all working together to make the community better. And like I said, in this case, um, our intention is to make the school

057district whole. Um, it's just we we're required to get those um the sign off when we exceed 75%. Does that help? >> Yeah. So, we're getting the same amount of money. We're just getting it in a different way. >> Correct. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's right. >> So, there's a mechanism in both cases where we go we go through an annual review. And so, um, if a business ever doesn't follow through with with that payment, um, we we we go through a review and they would instantly be dropped from the CRA or the TIFF. In the case of the CRA, it would be very detrimental to that business to start to pay 100% of taxes. And so, they have all the incentive in the world to make that that payment. But if if they miss a

058payment, we we simply drop them um the CRA program and then they pay 100% of all taxes from that moment on. So the the program has guarantees that um that the money will will flow to the school district >> and there is an annual committee called the tax incentive review committee and the school district is part of that. That is an annual review for all CRAAS and all tiffs. That concludes my report. >> Thank you. >> Great. Thank you. >> Any further questions for from the board? >> I don't think so. >> I do think that in the slide it said something about February 10th and that is not >> a date that we have a meeting. >> It's the third. >> Yeah. Ours the 3rd or the 24th? >> The third or the said

059something weird, but >> okay. Um, next we have on agenda we have um YU properties. Um, you'll notice on agenda we have a couple resolutions. YU properties came to us last month provided information about Eastwood and um they're they would like to acquire that property as well. And on agenda, we'll see Eastwood and also ESC is interested in acquiring the Eastwood property. Um, and today we have YU properties here uh who would like to answer any further questions that the board may have because I know some of the board members have talked to committee members that have other questions for them. Um, but before we reach that section agenda, they would like to answer some questions. If we had board members come on here, Mr. Lev, you hear me? Did you hear me? >> Thank

060you. >> So, he was invited back to answer any questions that we may have regarding property. >> Any questions from the board? >> I I met with community members um Mr. Levy and they were specifically concerned about having two I guess two big concerns. having an outof town owner of the property um and how that would work with like who do you have that is on site. And then the second concern was about the second phase of your project where you're you would be building behind the current school location. Um like what what would what would the plan for that building look like? their neighbors are specifically concerned about, you know, are you building a four-story building that's going to be looking to all of their backyards? >> Okay. So, I'll start with your I'll

061start with your first question. Um, I'm a business owner. I've been a developer in the US market for the past 15 years. Um, you know, the question is if it's an owner occupying or an owner managing and I don't seem to have a problem with that as that's been my business model for the past 15 years personally I own uh a management company based out of Philly but doing business all throughout the US I I've found and teamed up with uh and in some places even developed my own management company uh to be able to uh manage my properties. Similar with my current property in Orberland uh which I already have a senior housing project of 52 units that is being managed. Uh and actually I've been since I owned this property I've been I

062want to say about five times in the last year in Oberlin. I think that there are people living in Cleveland that haven't been in five years five times a year. So I uh I visit my sites. I have a system of how I manage them. the fact that I don't live there. I think it just uh doesn't serve me. I mean, I'm not there to uh you know, collect the rent or to if there's a maintenance problem to be the one who fixes it. This is what there are service providers for. And honestly, I think it's in the interest of the city and the community that I'll have a strong stable team who are local and put some more people into potentially to work who are a part of the city, a part of the

063community uh instead of being, you know, babysitting. It's a live business. It's it's a property. Um there are issues. They can be managed. honestly they can be managed also remotely. Um so I do not see that as an obstacle for me the fact that I'm not living in Oberling or will be living in the property to uh manage the property and serve the tenants and and provide whatever is needed. do you >> with regard to that um if that doesn't clarify enough please let me know >> can I second part of your of your uh question regarding the back >> so I'll tell you honestly the answer would be the face yet with that being said I am very much aware that the property um lines and there are tree lines. There are neighboring people

064homes and people lots and people backyards and I know that I would not like to live where there is a I don't know six seven story building um overviewing my house in the back. So I don't see that happening. Um, would it be a two or a three uh structure? I do not know to answer that at this question. Would I take into consideration the neighbors for sure? Would I take into consideration not being so um bulk and outstanding and the, you know, the feel and the vibe of the neighborhood for sure. But I only there is I don't know what is my allowance yet as far as how many units >> I will be able to build in phase two um but I think that once uh that will be considered um I'll be

065able to have a better solid understanding but again I'm very mindful um to the fact of what's you know where what's the location and the fact that our neighbors surrounding it. Uh I can tell you that we're trying to extend also our other project in the city several similar there. We have allowance to build something higher. We're trying to keep it with the same density as the current structure not to be too uh um you know provoke or or outstanding in that sense. So I hope that answers your questions. If not, let me know. Uh, do you have a caretaker in your current property in Oberlin? And what is that? A live-in caretaker and would you have a live-in caretaker on the Eastwood property? >> When you say living caretaker, do you mean like a

066management? >> Yes. >> Person on set? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, Okay. So, no. Uh currently I have a manager who comes to the site um daily. In this case she lives in one of the towns like 20 minutes out of Oberlin. So she comes in daily. Um even that that scale of property with over 50 units could accommodate a living um management who will uh occupy and live in the property for sure. Currently, I don't have that. In phase one in Eastwood being the school structure, I think that it's not um large enough to have a a living management on the second phase. I think that this is definitely something that we will aim towards because it will make more sense. Um, currently with the school structure, there is not enough units there. So,

067I don't think that that would make um sense to utilize one unit for management occupy. But again, that's not something that I have any agenda opposing it. Just so happened that in our current properties we do not have that. >> Can you provide us with a little another um overview of what your intentions with the property is because we do have a new board member and some committee members that um was not wasn't here last uh month as well. >> Okay. So um my my initially coming and seeing the school Um and and I'm new to in a sense I'm pretty new to doing business in Oberlin as well. Um but I have um I found Oberlin to be a very nice, peaceful, quiet town. And I like the people of Overland and I like

068the businesses that I came across and the business owners. And I found a lot of cooperation and kindness and efficiency working with some of the local municipal individuals. And when I was presented with uh Eastwood. I I have um I have sympathy for for old structures. I don't look at old structure and say, "Okay, let's demolish this and let's build something new." That's always the easiest uh part. And I found Eastwood to be a very interesting structure, challenging, but interesting. And I actually also found, yes, I found the back lot uh as a good opportunity uh to provide more housing to the city of Oberlin. Now, why do I say more housing and not why I'm not saying more businesses or more offices? Um just because I have been studying the city. I have been

069stepping the growth of Lorraine County. I carefully and learn the comprehensive um study that was conducted here in 2024. I talk a lot with people from the city. I met with business owners and I have found that the city is a place that wants to grow but somehow its current structure kind of prevented from growing in the sense that there are not enough of new housing and there are not for families who want to move in. families, young professionals who want to stay maybe if they've already been in college or want to return home at some point when they're with young families and they don't have much of opportunity to do that. And it's because that the senior communities they don't have where to transition to. And I said that I think that Eastwood giving

070the layout of the structure and given the size and the close proximity to the center of the city can be an interesting opportunity to explore a young professional vibrant community who will occupy these as units as rental units in what sort of to live work um play lifeful community and then thinking about the possibility and the options in the back. I would have I would very intuitively was thinking about yes putting their housing um an an apartment building that will will serve I want to believe more of the senior community whether it's affordable housing whether it's a section 8 or an odd property um with a hot contract but there are more elderly uh senior 55 and older people who would and and I I know that just because owning some of those properties in

071recent years and focusing on that niche And understanding that you know the elderly people they like to live together. We personally as a part of our business model we provide them a lot of amenities to support them as well like community room like grandkids playroom, library, business center, a gym and a fitness center and other um services in house. So I think that some of there there are other elderly or senior people from Oberlin that would might find this attractive. And I call it like I I I envision something that will be a bridge between, you know, between ages between the young in the vibrant community to senior community. Maybe they could be mentors one to each other. Maybe the younger one could benefit from having the seniors as their neighbors. And maybe the the

072seniors could definitely, you know, feel more ful and and being closer to a younger um community and still everybody can have his own peace of mind and space. So that was my vision. That's how I hope to accomplish this vision. Um but that this is what I identified and again I identified that as a need and I also cross reference it with people from the city and I think that this is where I would pursue if I'll be able to um uh proceed with this project. >> May I ask you if if you've already told us this, I apologize, but um have you estimated how many units your plan envisions for the community? How many units are you plann >> right in the in the in the building? How many units have you estimated that

073that's going to provide for housing in this community? Housing units. >> How many units do they plan to build in the back? >> No, in the front in the in the current build. No, no, sir. >> Sir, in the current building in the current Right. in the current building in the east room. Okay. So, currently each room has 17 classrooms. So, each classroom which is about uh between 700 to 735 square ft. >> Um each one of these could be utilized to a unit. It depends if it we will turn it into a um two bed or a one bed unit or maybe a loft style unit. There are high ceilings there. So we we're still exploring. We wanted to keep it industrial. We want to leave the feeling of the school because there is

074something to it which I personally like very much and I feel and think that we can give it some touch and and and with the right amenities we can turn those units to be very you know industrial style nice looking um vibrant 17 is not enough in this financially doesn't make any sense but it's kind of challenging to add more units. So currently um with the with the work that we've been doing, we were able to add about four units uh to the property by adding and adding walls and and and changing and tweaking some of the common areas. But we still want to maintain some of the common areas for the benefit of the tenants such as the library. There is a computer room that could be easily uh converted into a working stations.

075the cafeteria and the entrance will be at um will it be the >> east side >> east side? >> Yes. Um the entrance be there. So I if if unless we will be advised differently I'm estimating around 21 units overall. Thank you. >> Um, I have two questions. So, you mentioned affordable housing for seniors in the back potentially. I'm wondering if those will only be for seniors um or if those will also be available to the larger community as affordable housing. And then my second question um is back to the management piece. Do you currently work with the management company? you mentioned um one individual from out of town. Do you currently work with a management company or is is she part of a management company or is just just one person that you've hired?

076And if you do work with a management company, who is that company? >> So, okay. Um if if it's to be affordable housing, um no, I do not find any reason to limit it to a a um seniors. I want to see what the demand will be and to see how I can meet those expectations and and address them and and you know help as many community uh members I can. With that being said, there are rules and regulation of um the affordable housing association that I will need to uh oblig and follow. So in between that I would to find the niche of of um of occupy but no it's not I'm not my mind is not set and locked on seniors that's regarding this question u as for the management no the management

077I don't have a single lady who runs it uh the property is being managed by TNM associates TNM Associates are the nation largest um affordable housing management owner company. Um, and the reason that they were chosen is one because I have a very close friendship relationship with um, the owner of this company, but because they are based in the surrounding Lorraine County um, area and they it was easy for them to accommodate the the property from a manpower perspective, maintenance perspective, supervision for both county and regional. So at least I mean when I come to town to visit there are four um um management team members who I see and and and work with with regard to this company. So it's not a single individual especially in a in a h contract where you are

078in contract with the federal government one person is is not going to do the job for you. you got to have a larger team and that's what we have in place currently and if the expansion of Eastwood would be such property so most definitely TNM will be the management managing um for this property as well. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions? Okay, thank you very much. Thanks for your time. >> Thank you. >> You too as well. Okay, that was um why you made a presentation and later on in the agenda we'll see um provide information for us and we have been working with the city um and also um Mr. Levy as well to see what their support is um how they acquired a property. We also have worked with both agencies ESC

079and also Y properties as well. Okay. Next on the agenda we have a facilities update. Um on the board items, she'll have approval of the resolution authorizes second guarantee maximum price um for amendment. Um tonight we have Mr. Gina Colola here and also Jeff Hammond here from Hammond Construction, our construction management company um for the project um provide more information about what the guarant sec um second guarantee maximum price is um and where we're at the project. Um I'm also happy to announce that we should be seeing equipment probably towards the end of January, beginning of February moving in the back already. So, we're at that stage right now. We're going to start seeing equipment being moved um next couple weeks here, next couple months. Uh Mr. Dola and Mr. Hammond. >> Good evening everyone.

080My name is Jeff Tuckerman. I am with Hammond Construction. We're the construction manager. Madame President, Madame Vice President, members of the board. It's good to see you all again. >> Good to see When I was here last, we were talking about our first GMP for our early site package. Um, and as Mr. Hall mentioned, we're getting ready to start work on that. Febreezy is our subcontractor, site subcontractor. You're going to be seeing them on site. Um, you're going to see them as early as Thursday. Um, yesterday we received our um our permit number for from the Ohio EPA. So, we've got a green light to to to move forward. So, you're going to be seeing the construction fence going around the site. Um, we're going to cut in our main road, which is um going

081to be the the our access roads coming off of Pleasant Street. That's how we're going to access the site. But when you see that apron cut in there and that roadway, that's going to be the permanent road as well. So, if you go out this road, you take a right onto um Pleasant, the first uh fire hydrant that you see right there, that's about the center line of where our new cur or new uh apron is going to be, roadway coming back. So, imagine that. So, that's how we're going to be coming in. Um obviously we're going to be relocating that um that fire hydrant about 50 feet south of there. So that's really going to be the only work that we're going to have uh on that roadway area. So but there will be

082some construction traffic coming in. Um Columbia Gas is going to be coming in um this spring, early summer, and they're going to be uh installing a new gas line. So they're going to be out there at Pleasant as well. So that's going to be another little bit of a disruption. and they're going to tap tap into the line there, kind of follow our roadway back around the north side of the building um and set a meter for for our uh new middle school. Uh so they'll have that work going on. Other than that, there's not going to be any work out there on on Pleasant Street. Um that should disrupt any any activities. So you're going to see the construction fence going up again for Breezy's uh in two phases. So they're responsible for uh

083all of the site work, underground utilities, and that's going to be phase one. They're going to be building the building pad up uh as part of phase one. They will come back as phase two um the following year. So in spring uh summer of 27, they're going to be doing all the asphalting and the and the and the sidewalk work and all of those uh those those items there. So um uh later on uh probably uh right about the 1 of April, you're going to see the building pad going in. It's going to be right where your um varsity football or baseball field is right now. So, it's going to be a nice smooth kind of elevated. It's going to look really nice. And then right after they get it done, the package that you

084have in front of you, which is our concrete package, that is Phoenix. They're out of um Berea. Um they're going to be tearing that up. So, they're going to be coming around the perimeter of that, putting in our foundations, uh concrete foundations. We've got some interior foundations and some interior footings as well. They're putting those in in anticipation for our uh the remainder of our trades are going to be starting in May and June. We're going to be back in front of you in March for our building trade packages. That's going to be everybody else. That's our plumbers, our electricians, our masons, structural steel, our roofing. That package is coming before you. That's going to be about $24 million package right there. That's going to include everything for this building except the furniture. Furniture, we're

085going to be coming back. That's going to be GMP number four. We'll be coming back in September uh for for that as well. And that's going to be about uh $700,000. So, we're going to know, you know, the the cost of this building um in in just a few months. Um we're we've got the GMP documents. We're working on them. We're placing our first advertisement. We're scheduled right now. We're on track for that for the end of this month, actually the 26th of uh of January. We'll place those advertisements and then we're receiving bids on the 26th of February and then we'll be in front of you with that GMP in March at your March uh board meeting. So you will be seeing some activity. Um and um you know the fencing and everything is

086going up and uh the only thing that's going to be inside of that fence that uh we we need to take care of is your exi your existing facility uh story that storage facility that gets demolished. Um so th that material has to come out of there. We know that. Um so that's going to you know we we've got a few more weeks uh for that. Um, and actually the fencing that we're putting up along the east side of the high school, that's uh it's uh um um fencing that is uh not staked into the ground. It's going to have feet on it with with sandbags. So those are movable. They're panels. So we'll be able to move that and work with your staff to get them out of there. So I'm not I'm not

087concerned about that at all. Um and uh God, what what else can I tell you? Um that's that's a lot and there's just going to be a lot of activity. So, and there's going to be a little bit of disruption. Um, the good news is it's a high school that we're right next to. Um, and not, you know, the the elementary school is is not uh, you know, directly attached to it. Right outside this back door though, you're going to see some activity where our new maintenance shed is going to go. So, we're going to be clearing about um 60 feet of uh, tree line there just for for that building pad. And FBrezy is going to be building that building pad as well. So, and then um our contractors when they arrive in May,

088they're going to be uh putting that uh that that uh storage shed up. So, our goal is to get that up uh before start of school in August so that you can get all of your your materials uh and everything back back into that building. And then the south side of where the the practice fields are, that tree line, uh right now there's some some stands there and some other storage things that, you know, they've had to kind of get out of the way of where the building is going to go. We're taking that tree line back as well uh to expand uh the practice area. So, we'll have that seated by uh by the start of school as well. We will have some communication going out to the community um this week here letting

089them know about the road and construction information. Um and my understanding too, we just met today with our construction team ensuring that that ring road there will not get interrupted. So we will have um keeping parents informed that that will be maintained and we'll have traffic going through because know it's important for us elementary parents as well. So communication should be going out about the maintenance area. Um equipment's coming in. Um safety is our first priority as well. Uh with the bleachers being um removed. We will have pieces of the bleachers being removed and we hopefully recycle those and make benches out of them. And I know we have a press box over there. So, we want to keep something there or some benches commemorative of um the guest bleachers and also the press box

090because I know it's important to the Oakland community as well. >> Okay. >> Yeah. The Yeah, the Park Street Ring Road. Um you know, we're we're not going to access that at all. But when we do the storage shed back here, we do have to cut the road. We'll be doing that this summer after school is out. We will have to cut that road. So, we'll have it uh you know plated and down for for you know a few days. Um but our our plan is uh uh when we get our storm line across that that we will get that asphalted in before the start of school. So, there will be a little bit of activity there. But the rest of of uh of Park Street, that ring road there, I mean, that's off limits

091to everybody. You know, again, all of our construction traffic is coming in off of there. the old stands from the uh from the uh the stadium, the field there, those are part of the project. We're going to be demolishing those. They're outside of our construction fence, but we will be putting a fence around them, you know, uh you just be a few days activity. So, that's going to be coming down um this uh this spring as well. So, we we'll coordinate that obviously, you know, we get, you know, moving and everything. We'll coordinate that with the activities. Um um but you know, we'll make sure that it's safe just as the tree clearing that we have. The tree clearing we do have to do right away. Um we have to get trees down on the

092ground um before April 1st and that's uh because if you don't then you have Indiana bats and and other species that uh you have to contend with and you may not be able to drop trees. >> Keep in mind community members will have access to memorial guard throughout the project. So that will not be closed and shut down anytime. So if communers like to go to Memorial Garden, they certainly have access to it and that's open throughout the whole project. >> Yes. Yeah. We're going to put a fence around that. And our road that's going through there is about 30 feet south of there. So when when that fence goes around, there's no reason for any of our subcontractors or any of us to to go in there. So we'll be talking with everybody. It's

093just hands off. We're south of there. We will have no reason to go in there. However, we're going to fence it off. You'll still be able to access it from the north, you know, throughout throughout construction. Okay. Any questions, Mr. Mr. Nola? >> Yeah. Last December, the board approved GMP 1.1 because it's one building and then the 0.1 is because it was our first building package that had a value of uh $2.8 million. We were below our estimate. I can't remember how much, but it was below. So, this GMP is GMP 1.2 two one building second part. It's uh has a value of $479,000. So it's nowhere near like the first one was for Breezy. Uh I'm happy to report though that it was about 200 >> 200 $180,000 below our estimate. So we're tracking

094pretty good. >> Uh like Jeff said, we'll be coming back to you sometime in early spring, Marchish, April. We'll have to coordinate with your board meeting dates for the big building package and that'll be 20ome million dollars and that's that's the bulk of the work there. So, I feel we're we're right on schedule. Uh we're right on budget. Uh crossing our fingers to see what the building package comes in at, but uh I'm real comfortable that that we're going to get it done on time and within our budget. >> That's what we like to hear. >> Y that's what we're shooting for. >> Any other questions? >> Thank you both. >> Thank you. >> Thanks for the update. >> Um that concludes my report. >> Okay. So now we will move on to board items

095>> just a board item a. So can I get a um motion to approve board item A? >> Moved second. >> Second. >> It has been moved and seconded. Um is there any discussion? So this is the approval of the resolution guaranteeing maximum price with Hammond Construction. um for that part of the construction of the middle school. Do we have any questions, discussion? >> Go ahead and call the role. >> Miss Anderson White. >> Yes. >> Miss Gatson? >> Yes. >> Miss George? >> Yes. >> Miss Garrett? >> Yes. >> Miss Stagel? >> Yes. So, now we're going to move on to board items. Board item B. Yes. Board item B. I don't if you want to give clarification on board item B, you have two resolutions on there. Board item B and also board

096item C. Um, before the ESC or Mr. YU properties, u, Mr. Levy move on to project, they're starting to invest money into it. So, we kind of need a direction. the superintendent and treasurer and I need a direction of which one should we go with or which one's the first top tier to go with whether it's the ESC facil organization or Mr. Um I know before they got down the road they don't want to invest start investing thousands of million dollars into it then later we switch and go to the other organization. So I guess B or C um the board would have to pass which is a first priority which one would be a second priority. >> Are you asking that today? >> Yes. this item B whether um we want to go with

097the ESC and the U board will take a vote on that and item C is for YU properties whether the board will take a vote on that. Um we're getting to the point of they're starting to invest a lot of money. Uh Mr. Levy um his company would like to possibly have the property taken over by March or the end of April. Um they're moving very fast working with the city. Um the ESC do not want to move forward unless we have a commitment from the district of saying hey you know what we're go start going right now and start bringing in architects start investing money into that project. >> So basically you're saying between these two choices um we go with the guy who can move sooner than the other people who cannot move

098as soon. Is that what you're asking us? >> Yes in a way. Yes. either which organization we want to go with. Yes. But you're correct. Yu properties will move probably have the property um over by April. ESC are is contingent upon whether they get enrollment, whether the architects go through the building, uh whether they talk to other um schools or districts um get the enrollment piece they need. Um so there's a lot of variables with them, but if they do move forward with it, it'll be a um a school there for um special education students as well. um how many students at first we're not sure but they're not um fully committed to the that the project yet. >> So we go with someone who's committed and someone who's maybe >> yes. So, we could

099say we'd like to work with educational services center and then they start their process and then they say never mind, we don't actually want to do that. We don't have the enrollment or the facility won't actually work the way we think it's going to. >> Yeah. So, Mr. Levy could move on after that. We tell them that we're going to go with educational service center and that maybe that whole um deal may be off the table if we go with ESC and do that. Well, I'm kind of disappointed that we only heard from the one tonight and didn't hear from the other that from from the ESC because >> we did hear from them last week. >> We hear we heard from them last. >> I know. I Yes, I understand that. But um wasn't

100here to make his case again. >> Um >> are are we discussing this or we >> Okay, f. That's cool. That's what I need to discuss. >> Um, >> all right. So, >> we've had Eastwood for how long? >> Five years. >> Okay. And we've been paying taxes and all that stuff and having to call the police when it gets broken into and um dealing with that um on top of paying whatever else we have to pay for. Uh he sells he yu says he's looking at acquisition when >> he's um working with the city. They're supposed to go to for city council. He's looking at taking over the property at least by um March, April sometime. >> Okay. Um we are How much is it costing us? Utilities are right around $50,000 a year.

101>> Okay. >> Um this being the expensive time >> because of the gas and heating the building during the summer. It really doesn't cost us because we shut down the boiler. So there's no gas use there at all. >> Okay. So >> it's still electric use constantly because we still do monitor it. >> Okay. So, we're investing the 55 a year >> plus whatever insurance stuff we have to deal with. >> Do we have to maintain the building any beyond that? >> Yes, we mow the grass, we plow it, we salt it. >> Okay. >> Yeah, we cut down trees. >> Not including securing it when people have gotten in there. How many times has that happened? >> Uh, it's over 20. >> Yeah. Actually, I have to call the police department back because um

102somebody a kid from New York actually broke into the building that was up. >> Somebody from where would Okay, never mind. That's >> um So, we have someone who is willing to take it now off the hands. I've spoken to a couple of community members who were like very into, oh, this is going to be housing. the other part of it from um educational service center me I would like to hear what they say >> but I don't want to >> prolong the >> prolong us having this building with the liabilities and all that stuff that entails the ESC thing sounds good potentially, but if they haven't done any research for it yet, I mean, they could be they could we could give them the yes and they go through it and be, oh, we

103can't do this versus someone who's already ready to go. That's just me. The only comment I have is that I I'm I I fully support additional housing in Oberlin, particularly, although it appeared to me that there was some discrepancy in terms of whether or not there was going to be for senior housing or or mixed uh use, but u I I support housing, but I was if if I were to vote for Mr. levy. It would certainly be um subject to some some concerns and reservations because I wasn't real comfortable with his explanation. But that being said, we needed to sell the building. I get that. I was comfortable with ESC um coming here and discussing what their plan would be. Um, and so I I guess the pros would be, are we more interested

104in getting rid rid of the building and hopefully having some sustainable more sustainable housing in Oberlin? Um, or do we want to have this additional facility for at risk and at other children who need services based in our community? That was what they were offering. Is there a reason we haven't heard from we didn't hear from ESC tonight? >> We heard from ESC the last >> No, I remember I was at the meeting. I'm saying is there a reason that we didn't hear from them again tonight cuz they had some >> question there was some I feel like they didn't provide a full presentation last time >> and they said they had to get back to us on some things. >> I agree. >> Yeah. >> Is there a reason that they haven't come back

105with them? >> No, I think they were pretty um I can talk to him see some more. I've talked to them on Friday at a meeting wise. Um I think they were pretty much they want to facility. My understanding with them pretty much what their presentation was is what they were going to do with it. Um and they're waiting on for us to say hey yes move ahead. Um they did go through it another time with their maintenance person but um from the perspective is they did not want to invest architects and things until we give them a thumbs up first. Um we do know that they are interested with other schools going in there. Um they feel they have um some enrollment piece with it. Um will they have more or not? I'm not

106sure. What would it hurt for us to wait until the February 3rd meeting and ask them to come back because I mean would it jeopardize the other one the the Israeli company buying it if we did that? >> Um I think right now to the point of they're investing funding and contracts getting those things ready right now they're moving forward with a kind of a due diligence period. Okay. So, are you saying that we really need to decide tonight? >> I think they would like to have that information now so they can because they're about to start investing attorney fees and things like that for us to go through >> these is no is not going to invest anything until we tell them we're good to go with it. It it just it I I

107I understand that he's invested some time and effort and contractually he may have looked into a lot of different things particularly with the city. He just didn't give me that. I didn't get that from him. I got >> Yeah. >> I didn't get stats from him. I got >> discussion. I got I got no facts. But, you know, would it hurt for us to wait one more month to get all the data that we need and then make a decision? >> Yeah, I agree. And I also think that my questions for him, I think that there needs to be a clearer um understanding of what that housing would look like. I think he's told us, but I want to know more specifically what that would look like in terms of um affordable housing and the

108benefits to the community. >> Right. And with all due respect, it took him forever to get to the 21 units that I asked him for in the first place. I asked him, "How many units are we going to have in our community? How much affordable housing are you planning to put in our community?" >> Yeah, >> I got a lot of discussion. No stats, no facts. >> Wow. Jola probably makes some comments. >> Well, I certainly don't want to tell the board what to do. That that's totally your decision, but I've been involved with that since we built this school. And when we first started, we uh began thinking about what we were going to do with Prospect and Eastwood when this was open. And the sentiment of the community was they wanted housing. >>

109They wanted uh low-income housing if we could, senior housing, but strictly housing. So, we worked with the land trust to try and do that. Well, that didn't go anywhere because the land trust didn't have the funding to make a commitment to take ownership. Then, we worked with the college and they were going to use it for offices, maybe dorms. That didn't work out. We went uh back to the land trust. Then, we got hooked up with the developer and the developer took about a year just to formulate a plan on what he could do with the property. Then we signed an agreement with him and gave him a due diligence period of six months. And during that due diligence period, he decided he he didn't want to be involved. Then we went back to the

110the college and the land trust and tried to work out something with them. That didn't work out. But again, we were trying to do something to benefit the community. So you've had the school for five years. You've spent however many thousands of dollars each year that didn't go to kids in educating kids. Uh, and that's where it was. I think it was last December when uh, the last developer backed out, the board actually voted to auction the property. And if you conduct public auction, you could set a minimum bid, but other than that, you can't restrict what they they use that property for. You can't put restrictions. You can only you do this and this and this. So, if you go to a public auction, you're giving up any kind of control over it. with

111working with the the uh the county school district or this developer, we're putting in that agreement to have some control. Do we want to control everything with the exact number of units and all that? If you want to start doing that, then it's going to affect the the price he might be willing to pay or if he's interested at all because he's got to make some money off it, too. Even though he's going to benefit the community, I've never seen anyone as eager to get this property as he's been. Uh, like I said, typically the the process takes about a year for him to develop it. I just heard about him maybe in December sometime, met with him a couple times, met with the city a couple times. We've got the city on board to

112act as the agent to transfer to them and they would transfer to him. >> Uh, we had a meeting last week. He even said in in the agreements I put a very short due diligence period, 35 days. The last contractor was 180 days. He said he might be able to commit earlier than that. which was a good signal uh in my mind. I know Dr. Hall either toured it with them or is going to tour it with them. I haven't had any involvement with the county board of ed. I don't know what they would do. One big difference is though, you need to get rid of the property. I've said this for five years now. It's it's it's an anchor. >> Uh but the other thing is if you sell it to the developer and

113they develop it, that generates income tax. That generates money for the schools. if you sell it to the county board of ed, they're tax exempt. So, you don't benefit in that regard. So, there's kind of a a double benefit here. Um, if you look at it that way, and I know you want to please the community and do the right thing. Uh, but my experience with the schools has been it's very hard to maintain an older school when you're a school district. Pleasant Street School, we had that for probably 15 years and weren't using it. And luckily, we had Boys and Girls Club that was willing to pay an excessive amount of rent just to keep that building open. I'm not sure how the county is going to be able to do this. And if

114they're just looking at using two classrooms to begin with, that isn't going to come anywhere near generating the funding they're going to need. And my concern is I'm worried they're going to want us to pick up that slack. >> Um, I think time is of the essence. And again, I certainly don't mean to tell you what to do. Uh, but we've had draft agreements prepared with with YU investments. Um, the city's looked at those, they reviewed them, our attorneys looked at them, they just sent the revisions back today. I haven't had a chance to look them over closely or talk to our attorney about it, but it looks like it's pretty simple and and and pretty sweet. And I think you could probably have a deal to start the 35day due diligence period in February

115if you want to string that out. Uh, but I would be worried if you switch gears and you start to negotiate with somebody else, this developer is going to move on and go somewhere else. I mean, he's a businessman and >> thank you. that that's information that we >> we could >> have used and I appreci I appreciate that because >> we don't want to have if there's anything that we could do anything that we could do to make sure that the community doesn't have a a building out there that we have rushed to sell and becomes something that they don't want or becomes um uh that doesn't benefit the community or heaven forbid becomes some type of liability, then that's on us. >> So that's all we're trying to do. And I appreciate the

116information that you've given us. He was not able to articulate that. >> And in my opinion, you haven't rushed. We're going on six years now. >> Every agency we can think of to try and benefit the community as well as, you know, the school district. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Well, thank you for that because you have persuaded me. >> Yeah. >> Well, that wasn't my goal to persuade you. I'm just here to offer you information. The information you gave me. >> The other thing is any development he does still has to go through the city, right? >> He's got to go through the planning and the building department and all that and they're the ones that really control how big the building can be and you know, and I know there's regulations for that.

117It can only be so high in certain areas and all that. >> Can I can I ask you one more question? Why was why is it so easy for him at this point? Because of the time that's lapsed because of the efforts then that have been made and failed and now it's he he's easily able to come in and and and create something that some that no one else obviously has been able to do in five years. >> I I I don't know. I I've had a few meetings with the >> property's already been reszoned. So, one of the biggest problems we had in the past >> was getting the property reszoned. So, the property has been reszoned as well as the city has changed the zoning rules. >> Um, so that's one one reason

118that it that I think he's having an easier time. >> Well, I I think the biggest thing is he wants to be a partner with Overland. He's doing a project with the city right now. Carrie uh Porter, who's here tonight, she's actually the one that sent him to Dr. hall. I don't think this Eastwood is is a big project for him. Um, you know, for me it would be for you guys it probably would, but for him it's not that big of a deal. And if he's trying to make a presence in Oberlin and he really does like this community like he says he does, I think that's why he's so anxious to do something. It's a good opportunity for him. He likes the city anyhow, but I'm just guessing at that. I don't know

119for sure, but he's still a businessman. It's got to be, >> you know, financially worthwhile for him to do that. That's a big investment. >> I um in general the the topic of housing versus the other project I'm leaning towards housing, but my questions are what would that housing look like? I don't think I think that we do need more housing in Overland, but I do not think that it necessarily benefits the community to create a housing project that is unaffordable to anyone that lives here. And we'll bring in other people. that's great to bring in other people, but if um that means pushing out the people that are already here, I don't want to see that. So my question really for him, I am leaning towards him, I think, because of the housing piece,

120but my question would be what would that look like? And can you explain to us more what that would look like? Not necessarily in just in um the number of units, but also in the type of housing, the type of housing um that will go in Eastwood and then the type of housing that will go behind Eastwood eventually. and can we discuss that with him and compromise and you know you know something that benefits him and benefits the community. >> That's what I'd like to see. >> We talked about that with the last developer and our attorney advised us to put housing in there but also let him to be free to have offices and some other development, but housing had to be one. We even wanted to lay out what percentage of the property

121developed had to be housing. And the attorney said, "You know, you're you're putting the developer in a tough spot in case his numbers don't work out. So, while while I understand you want to have some control, you have to value how long are we going to keep the property, what other people are out there that are interested and when would you make a decision? Like I said, you you made a motion or you approved a motion last December, I think was to go to auction. When you go to auction, you can't you have no control over the property. >> So, this way it's giving you some control. Will you know every detail? No, probably not. But again, he's got to go to the city, get all that stuff approved before he can build anything. So

122whether it takes care of housing for Oberlin people or you're bringing somebody in, you know, I I don't know that we could control that at all. We can't say we're going to let you develop this, but it's only housing for Oberlin people. So >> I don't mean that. >> You know, and I understand you want to have some involvement, but I'm not sure how far that involvement or that control can go. Now, now do we have to after we make the decision and we decide if we decide to go with him, is it a conversation during his due diligence period with our concerns or is it just he we're moving forward, he does whatever he wants with it? >> Th this is just to steer us to start the negotiations. You will still have to

123approve the agreement between >> okay and to sell it to him. The next steps will be we talked to YU as um they're going to go before the city council on February the 2nd um and deliver a plan to them and trying to get city and they'll have a u community meeting >> to get community input at city council. >> Um Levy has been moving forward with the project far as trying to um work with city council, working with Kerry, working with the city manager and we've been meeting several times to try to get u moving some agreements going with them. Um then after that on February the 3 um hopefully city council will have some kind of tenative agreement with them to initiate the due diligence period and the trade piece. On February the

124third the board will have something before them for our part to initiate that piece. The whole deal will not go through unless all three parties agree for it and after this 45day due diligence period. >> Within this 45day period he has a couple choices. Um I'm not sure Levy is going to take the whole 45 days for his due diligence. Um I think he probably is starting due diligence now by touring a facility looking through it and he's pretty confident I can utilize it. Um or he can ask requests to extend the 45 days which we did with Drew Sily. Um and our board can deny him say you're not going to extend it 45 days. I'm not sure if um I doubt if Levy's going to wait that 45 days. He's right now looking

125at the building ready starting to look at facilities looking at offering us something within the next couple weeks here. He wants something for us. Um the city has been cooperative working with them doing a three-way um trade period with them. Um city manager is very cooperative. Carrie actually um brought him to me and said, "Look, this is a guy we've um talked to, worked with the soul and property here and been maintaining it." Um as far as what he may do, I'm not sure really, but within our agreement, there's housing in our agreement is already with them. So that is already a piece that's already in our agreement. So he has to use it for housing. Okay. >> So today we are we we just need to decide who to go with or if we

126don't >> answer who to move forward >> who to move forward with >> and ask more questions too. >> In answer to the the first question though if you said go ahead and move forward we have to negotiate two agreements. One to transfer the property from us to the city and one to transfer the property from the city to YU properties. They they kind of work together. Mhm. >> Currently, and I think in the revised documents, you're going to see that we we say the developer has to develop it and include some housing. We don't get into the details housing in and other uses. That that's as much detail as our attorney recommended we put in there. Now, you can certainly change that and you can say he's got to build blah blah blah. I

127think he's going to walk away from the deal and I think any developer would. Um, but the other thing is even if ours just says housing and if he sells any part of the property within a certain period of time, he owes us some money back. It's either half the profit or or something. So, it's not like he can just buy it from us, promise you housing, and then turn around and sell it to somebody else or do something. So, there's some provisions to to protect us. But the real issue is what the city will approve. >> Oh, yeah. >> So, you might say you think there should be a three-story building there. If the city's zoning does doesn't allow three-story buildings, there are going to be threetory building no matter what our document says.

128The city has the final say in that. Oh, >> okay. >> Um, so they're the ones that you have to present to, show them your drawing, and I've been to a couple of those meetings, some for the district, some to watch other people, and they're very diligent about the the things that they go over and the changes that need to be made. So, that's really who is controlling what goes on that property and how many. And I'm sure there's regulations on so many units per square foot or so many people uh that can live on a certain uh uh piece of property. So there's requirements like that. So if you you want to get involved in that process, you can through our agreement, but my guess is no developer is going to sign that agreement.

129>> Go ahead. Sorry. >> Because they need to be a little bit flexible. I think I'd like to do this potential construction cost change or tariffs or something. maybe that doesn't work out or maybe one of his other developments needs a little bit more money so he can't do something else here. Um and I I just think if you restrict him too much he's going to walk away from it. >> Yeah. >> And with ESC um also with ESC was >> they have not committed any architects to the project yet or have not committed any um >> their due diligence period or have not they still have to find a three-way person to initiate the swap and trade. I'm either both agencies benefit the district. >> Both of them do, but the ESC has not

130um they will still have to find whether they're going to go through with the city or whether they're going to go through with a port authority. Um they may be snagged along those ways too at the same time. Um so we're not sure whether he's going to get those agreements or not. Um but with YU, they have already talked to the city, you've already got committed from the city. Um and the city's committed to help them through that process. In our last discussion with the city and in YU, our timeline was by February 2nd, have these agreements in place and ready to present to both city city council and to the board. February 2nd, it would go to city council. They could approve it that night. They could do it at their next meeting or

131they could take three readings. With the board, you only take one one reading to do that. If both uh governmental agencies approve that, that starts the 35day due diligence process. and he already said he probably won't need that much time. >> Then once he uh contacts us and says the due diligence period's done, I'm happy. Then the title has to transfer within like another 40 days or something. I can't remember. That's a real tight timeline. Even if he takes all 35 days, you're going to be transferring the property in April, probably. Um this is the closest I think we've come in the five years to actually having an agreement. Um, so that that's what the process would be. Um, we're we're looking over the agreements now. There'll probably be a meeting next week to resolve

132those, negotiate the price, and then by the early February, we'd be in a position to present to the uh the city law director, I think, or Carrie is going to present to city council, and we would present to the board and >> see where it goes from there. Has anyone else I met with a couple different contingents of community members. Um I guess I'm curious if anyone else has talked to >> I have no >> community members. I have no >> You mean specific to this? >> Specific to this. So like I met with um a group of people who live near the school >> and um who seemed much more interested in it staying a school and people who didn't live specifically in that community that I spoke with were more committed to um

133the comprehensive plan of the city that's more interested in getting more housing. Um, >> so >> all I hear is housing, housing, housing. >> Yeah. >> What do we want? >> And I think what Dr. Hall is asking you tonight is to tell him >> to negotiate with one or the other. >> Right. Right. >> And if you say it's YU and we have an agreement early February and we bring it to you and you vote it down, then I'll probably come up to the microphone, say, "Hey, you want us to call up the county and see what they want to do." Um because the the board eventually has to dispose of the property. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. >> I think we should move it along. >> Yeah, I agree. >>

134Yeah. I think we should uh I'm going to make a motion that we uh move to go with white >> and U properties tonight. >> Are you moving a motion? Yes. >> Are we >> you want to vote on it? The first one is B. >> So you want to do B first. >> They can do either one and ignore B. If no one makes a motion, you don't have to do anything. >> Okay. Just lay there. >> Okay. So she made a move. >> So what's your motion? I'm not running the meeting >> that we go with YMB properties. >> Y >> the Israeli Right. >> So, we um we have a place at the beginning of the meeting and a place at the end of the meeting for community members to put in

135to have input. Um and we missed the the one at the beginning of the meeting. So, we need to wait until the end of the meeting. Can we move this? Madam President, >> you're allowed to do whatever you want, >> but it sets precedence for the rest of your meeting. >> Does precedence >> Oh, can can we move voting on this to the After we have the community input time, >> approved the agenda. >> Oh, we can't change the agenda. >> So, um, we're going to have two people present. You're going to have three minutes. And I just want to remind you that it's not it's not a conversation with the board that you're just presenting information. So come on up, s state your name and um and you have three minutes. >> Sign the

136paper if you have >> Oh, and sign the paper if you haven't already. >> Thank you so much. I just want to I'm Liz Burgess uh 128 Shepard Circle and also a member of the community land trust which has had an interest in this property and what would happen to this property for all five years. Um and unfortunately we thought we had a partner in community in Cleveland housing network recently and the federal funding is not available for us not in Oberlin at least. So, we had to completely back out. I did want just to clarify a few things because I think there's been a very uh uh cogent uh argument for speed because there's been five years of delay and things have been moving I think very quickly with YU. Uh I want just

137to say a couple things once once given once the property is transferred there is no control. you have sold or given the property and it's their property. Yes, they would have to negotiate with the city in terms of zoning and that, but you wouldn't have you will have no more control over it. Both parties will probably ask for a due diligence party. If you chose the educational service center, they would need use that time to bring in their architect to see whether they could use it or not. So both of them are saying we're not going to make a final decision until we have our own due diligence done. Um the other thing that has changed, someone asked why have things changed where it was hard before and now it's easier. The city management has

138changed. Before the city of Oberlin did not want to participate in a land transfer. Uh and so we had to negotiate with attorneys and with the port authority and that and now the city with the city manager, this new city manager has is open to the idea of becoming the conduit for the land transfer for new members. You can't just give the land to someone. You can give it to a government authority though who can then give it or sell it to someone else. So, and I was also at the neighbor meeting where the folks who live in the immediate uh vicinity were very pretty sure they they really like the idea of a school, but you've met with other groups as well. So, thank you. >> Thank you. One more is just you mentioned

139there's benefits to the school of either and I was curious what benefit you saw from ESC to the school. What would the school system gain from going in that direction? Thank you. >> Alisa Widenbomb, 99 South Cedar Street. Full disclosure, I was at the meeting uh with Joanne Stagel. It was a wonderful meeting. Uh, I think the consensus really moved from all of us hoping for housing to all of us really hoping for the school. Uh, I'll keep this simple. I trust the envir the educational service center guy and I have a good feeling about him and I don't trust the YU properties guy and I don't have a good feeling about him. On the timing issue, even though the outside developer would buy it right away, I don't think that the building would look

140lived in as actual housing for over a year or two. Whereas, if the uh county school gets a hold of it, they might open up as soon as the fall or by the winter, like by this time in a year from now. And even if they're not using every classroom, the outside would look lived in as a school. And that's really the educational mission. We'd be not only serving ourselves because Oberlin kids could go there for free. Uh we'd be serving the region because the educational service center guy explained that a Berea school had closed that had been serving special uh education services. Um, and then on this issue of cost and architects checking it out, it would be fine with me if we used our tax money even as Overland School District for that

141to help happen for the educational uh service center. Uh, I think they should at least be given that chance. I think he could have moved from since the last meeting, but even now um I I think they really want it and I really trust them to handle it well and I really hope that the educ the architect part works out for that. But again, in terms of timing and fairness, I think that um that's how far I would go. like they're gonna pay for it, but I would be willing for Oberlin to pay for that to facilitate the move to the next school. Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Any questions from the board? >> Do we have any further questions? >> No. >> Any more discussion? Do we have a a motion or some further

142discussion? I would like to move that we go with YNU properties. >> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> So, we're going to vote on board item C um approving the reol re resolution authorizing the superintendent to collaborate with YU properties LLC regarding the potential sale of Eastward Elementary School property. And if I am correct, that is the first step. >> That is the first step. We are not selling them the property. >> Correct. >> But also it was the sec you you said something about making a first and second priority >> before. So that means that the education service center would be the second priority. >> Okay. >> So >> Okay. So, just to clarify, we're going to move ahead with C. >> Yes. >> But and we're not going to approve anything

143for B, but we're going to keep that as a >> let them know that they back up. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> The only thing you're doing is authorizing me to to talk to them and no contracts or anything's being signed currently at this time. >> Good. >> Okay. >> That sounds great. >> Okay. Any further discussion? >> I have one last question. So after their due diligence period, then we would reconvene and discuss the next steps in terms of contracts. Is that right? >> No. On the February the 3rd meeting, what will happen is they'll we'll have a U disposition agreement that will start their 45day due diligence. You'll sign an agreement saying that, hey, you know what, if everything goes well with the due diligence, then it all goes through and everything good.

144So the um on February 3rd is actual agreement you're signing then we'll start due diligence. So that's actually giving a property to the city and then it go from the city to YU. That's the point. That's fair understand. >> So we want to go to the city council meeting. >> Yeah. So so we're not we're not selling it to YU. >> We cannot legally we cannot sell to YU. We have to go through a fun city. We are giving the property to the um city >> and the city will sell it to the city will sell it >> and then the city will in turn turn around and give us whatever yu the purchase price for it. >> Okay. >> So the city's just decided to put it into our hands and who we move

145forward with and with based on our recommendation. This is a recommendation >> because it's our property, >> right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. We just can't sell it and they can. >> Yeah. And on that third, he should have YU should have a U price for us as well during that time period of what he's going to negotiate with us. And currently, we'll work with on that next couple weeks here. >> Okay. Any further questions or discussion? Please call the role. >> Miss Anderson White, >> yes. >> Miss Gatson, >> yes. >> Miss George, >> yes. >> Miss Garrett, >> yes. Miss Dagel. >> Yes. >> Motion carried. >> Now we're going to move on to treasurer item A. >> Um >> Okay. >> Wait. Do we have to move first? >> Yes. I'm sorry. >>

146C. Can I get a motion to approve? >> Second. >> Okay. Guess you want this quick. Um, for the month of December, we ended the month with 46,315,734.75. We had outstanding warrants of $19,1448 and we had a payroll transfer of $43.50 and balance to the penny. Interest for the month was $171,738.39, bringing the total for the first half of the school year to $823,841.72. The five-year forecast, we are um halfway through the year. um revenue is up or down from what I projected, but that's because of the advance that we didn't have the $1.7 million. So, if we look at actual income, we are up 9.15%. But since the board transferred and paid off the notes last year to since we had the excess cash, um we didn't we didn't um make the debt fund

147pay us back and that's why everybody will see a discount in their bond issue on their tax bill this year. So, but it didn't bring in revenue to the district. So, um expenses are up from last year, but they are running. Um they're a little bit high, but that's because of the federal grants being cut and also the loss of the um reading grant that we didn't get. Um and those people we didn't cut, we moved them back into the school district. So, benefits again are running a little high. Um and that's just because usage is up for the consortium as a whole. So, Other than that, we're good to go. And next month, I'll be bringing you the five-year forecast again. >> Will that be an actual five-year forecast or will that be a

148three-year forecast? >> Well, it'll be the you'll get the actual five, but I will submit the three and a half. >> Um, and then all funds again, it's the standard report, so there's really nothing stands out there. Um, so unless anybody has any questions on the reports, I'll just leave it at that and we can move on. >> I know it's probably your first time seeing them all, Miss George. Did you have any questions? >> Um, >> you probably want to sit down for a meeting with Yeah, >> always open. Just let me know when you're available. >> Cool. >> We can. >> Yeah, definitely. Thank you. >> And any other questions? Please call the role. Miss Anderson White, yes. >> Miss Gadson, yes. Miss George, yes. Miss Garrett, yes. Miss >> Dagel, yes. Now

149we'll move on to superintendent consent items A through B5. >> Dr. Hall. >> Okay. We have item A, approval of professional service contracts. We have a couple field trips overland college on there. We have um also A4, Miss Julie um Mishak who will be filling in for our school psychologist who is um out on LOA LOA for a period. Um we have item B personnel reports. We have a few resignations on there. Um Paige is secretary um at administrative assistant at the high school. We'll miss her. She done a fantastic job. Also, Carmen Porter has worked for with us in the cafeteria for some time and wishing the best of luck uh moving forward. We also have some employees um to employ a couple new employees. Uh we have cafeteria workers. We also have sub

150to van driver Michelle Gore who's been working with us. Um she's also in the process getting her bus license as well. Great. >> So hopefully she'll um follow through with that and we'll have another bus driver on staff. We have item three um position changes. We have um a couple teachers there recisions. We have Paige Isum who um from cheerleading winner um as well. Paige will continue to work with some of our students. Um so we're also but she will not be doing some of our our shellini. Um she still be working with our seniors as senior advisor. Um item five is our supplemental contracts. We have Kendra Binham who'll be doing our cheerleader will be taking also page items place for that. Um concludes my report request approval of item A through B5. >>

151So moved. >> Wait requesting approval. Right. >> Any discussion? >> Second. Who was a second? I'm sorry. Thank you. Please call the role. >> Miss Anderson White, >> yes. >> Miss Gadson, >> yes. >> Miss George, >> yes. >> Miss Garrett, >> yes. >> Stagel, >> yes. Uh, now we will move on to uh board updates. I don't know if any >> um if any boards have met. >> I have a report. >> Do you have a report? Excellent. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, um I attended a Zoom meeting about um well actually a couple of them about uh Voucher Hurt Ohio, which we are part of. Um and most of what was occurred during those discussions were different districts talking about how they are struggling to bring board members on to uh join the

152uh lawsuit. And I just want to say to our board, I really appreciate how harmonious this board has been to work with and listening to uh the struggles of other boards is really eyeopening. So, thank you. Thank you. Um, okay. So, uh, there's a, um, SB26, uh, it's called the Protecting Ohio Communities Act, um, which requires local, uh, law enforcement to coordinate with, uh, ICE officials. Um, and I would like to encourage anyone who disagrees with that to please call Kelly Deer, who is our House representative, and uh, let her know how you feel about that. Um, especially in light of the ICE murder of Renee Good in Minnesota. Um, Kelly Deer's phone number if you want to hear it is 614 9628. I will repeat that if anybody wants me to. You got it.

153>> Got it. >> Okay. Um yesterday the attorneys for the Ohio uh vouchers hurt Ohio uh attorneys filed a brief um in the Ohio 10th district court of appeals asking for to revisit uh count number five in the case. I'll remind you that Judge Paige had ruled in our favor on counts one through four. Um, she especially made a point that the Ohio Constitution is crystal clear on the fact that no public monies should go that are intended for the schools should go to religious education. Um, but there was a revisit on count number five and she ruled against that one. And the reason that she ruled against it was because the ru the wording was too vague. And um I don't have it in front of me, but I I will just reiterate that

154I I agreed with her. It was very vague. So that's all I have to say about that. >> Thank you. >> We have any other any other updates? Um and I will have to reach out to Miss Sham because She used to send updates to >> Oh, did she send them to you, too? Okay. Yeah. I assume most people didn't meet because of um because of the holidays. >> Um and now we will move to hearing of the public on other items. >> Anyone? Um and then we will go to future meetings. So, our next meeting is February 3rd, which will be a regular meeting here at Oberlin Elementary School. Um, and then the meeting after that again in February is the 24th uh regular meeting which is also here at the elementary school and

155the Langston students will present at that meeting. >> Um, >> February 4th and the 24th. >> Yeah. Okay. >> And >> can I ask what day City Council the second. >> Second. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> They're the Yeah. the first Monday and third Monday of every month. >> I will entertain a motion to adjourn. >> So second. >> Who made the motion? I'm sorry. >> You got to speak up. >> Gston White. Thank you. >> Motion and I second it. >> Got it. It has been moved and seconded. Please call the role. >> Miss Anderson White? Yes. >> Miss Gatson? Yes. Miss George? >> Yes. >> Miss Garrett? >> Yes.