001I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation indivisible and justice for all. >> Okay. Uh roll call. Derek >> here. >> Julie >> here. >> Chad >> here. Lee >> here. >> Melissa >> here. >> Mike's here. Spencer >> here. >> Greg >> here. >> Nathan here. John >> here. >> Christian >> here. And this is not >> Oh, you are here. >> Yep. >> Sammy's back. >> Sweet. >> Uh, okay. Adoption of the agenda. >> Something moves it. >> I'll second. >> Melissa second it. All in favor say I. I. All oppose say no. Motion carries 70. No warrior pride. No board showcase. No student school. I'm sorry. Sammy, do you have a report? >> Yep. So, today was the
002first day of school, middle school, high school classes are back. Um, I guess all sports started. Volleyball, basketball, football have got going. >> Soccer. Yes. >> Oh, did I say basketball? Not basketball. I'm sorry. And juniors and seniors are getting ready for their online college classes. Those start next Monday. >> Cool. Awesome. Thank you, Sandy. Uh, no public comments tonight. Any discussion on the consent agenda? All right. In that case, would anybody like to move the consent agenda? >> Spencer moves it. Derek it. All in favor say I. I. All oppose say no. Motion carries 70. Is that Jeie Johnson? Was she a galler down at Houston? >> Yeah. Very good person. Yeah, I really enjoy her. She got very good high. >> I just realized Craig shaved the >> shave the goat man. Barely
003recognized you sitting over there. I got on a Zoom meeting and one guy said, "Rick, you gotta throw that back because you're freaking me out." >> Thanks. >> Looks good. All right. Um, no action items. Administrator report. >> I do have one thing to report. We pulled the action item. We had we were going to look at approving the road stuff and I think I sent that out in the um my note to the board last week that the city attorney is doing some legal magic to the u resolution that I had suggested to them. They had to get some of the legal terms in there and hoping we'll have that for September, but um we're waiting on that. administrative reports. Mr. Bowler, um, yeah, obviously we're we're back at it. Last week we had
004uh inservice for all of our staff. It's great to get everybody uh into the building again and see everybody. We um had a bunch of different trainings. One of the ones that I know that Craig mentioned was the AI training that took place on Wednesday and it was it was really good. Um, you know, a lot of times you walk into some of those and you're like, what what is this going to be like? But I heard very positive responses as I was standing by the door when when people left. Um, it's just good. We had a couple potlucks or a couple lunches trying to get together as a as a staff and and obviously connect that way. Uh, we welcome some new staff into the middle school high school. We had two new paras
005and a pair that then came back to us from the elementary school and two new teachers. So, it was good to get them welcomed. Um, on Wednesday, I joined our new teachers at the golf course for lunch as they met with their mentors. We have the mentorship program up and going for for those new teachers. And, uh, you know, last week was kind of the crazy week. I hate to say it because that's the week that teachers have a lot of questions, need everything. And then today we got started at 8:00. I haven't heard anything as far as the 8:00 start, good or bad. Um obviously not that it was raining, but um just a busy busy few days while we get people's schedules changed and get lockers to open and you date and everything
006else. So I think we're off to a good start today and uh yeah, looking forward to a great school. >> Awesome. >> One question there that I had. Is that unusual or is that the normal? We hired like 12 parents I see this meeting. Was there a dozen parents? But normal is it? >> It's probably it's probably pretty high. Okay. >> Yeah, we had a lot of new enrollment, >> right? And you know, and kids has got issues and need. So yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'd say it's pretty abnormal the the additional pair of professional support special education pair professional deal and we did um so I basically filled the positions that we were that we're making from last year. So it's the same number at the middle school high school. uh the special ed
007team and I sat down with Clover Schmidt, our um special ed director, and we went through every IEP and checked are we appropriately staffed, understaffed, overstaffed, and we found that we were about exactly where we needed to be, which was good. So, um that was one of the things we did two weeks ago as a team. So, >> sounds good. >> Cool. Mr. Rollstrom. >> Yeah, not much to report. So today and tomorrow are um assessment days at the elementary. Today is from noon to 700 p.m. and then tomorrow is kind of our normal hours. Um what that looks like a lot like parent teacher conferences. Parents um sign up a time period bring their kid in. They meet the teacher go through some things. There's an assessment that takes place checking reading level. Um
008yeah but looking forward to Wednesday. We're full on regular school day. That's kind of, you know, from a first day of school standpoint, that's kind of our day is Wednesday. And honestly, I look forward to having a little more to report out to you. Uh, next board meeting once we're up and running. We'll have a lot of exciting good stuff to share out. So, questions for Mr. Wr. >> Thank you, sir. Miss June. >> Yeah, I am working on our fall community class catalog. My goal is to have it out on Tuesday. Um, we actually we have a good variety of classes we're offering this fall. So, I'm really excited about that. Um, get some more interest in some of that. Um, I'll be speaking at the community coffee break on September 9th to talk
009about it and talk about we're offering and how people can get more involved with that stuff. Um, we were able to hire a new teacher for the daycare. Um, and we have soon we have one staff going on maternity leave and then have one more staff leaving once she finishes her classes. So, you'll probably see some more job postings for that in the future, just so you know. Um, that we'll be hiring soon. Um, we did our annual staff training for the daycare last week just to get everyone brushed up on everything they need to um make sure we're reviewing the licensing standards and um get our CPR certified up to date and stuff like that. And then last Tuesday, we had our um preschool open house. It was great. did great turnout. Families um
010coming in um saw pretty much I think we only missed a couple kiddos. So, it was really good to meet all the parents and yeah, get ready for Wednesday, first day of preschool and elementary. >> Questions for Gretchen. Thank you very much, Mr. Perky. >> Um yeah, piggy back on what Nathan said about the um workshop stuff, the the virtual uh not virtual artificial intelligence. I was going to say virtual intelligence. That's what I have. Virtual um artificial intelligence thing was really good. Um some of the comments I think I shared some of them with you guys in a message, but people didn't realize that it was more than just being able to cheat on stuff or whatever. But um some really good uh workshop and I think it was one of the few workshops
011I've ever attended, maybe the only one where I think everybody got something out of it. A lot of times you try and schedule something for everybody and um it hits 80% of the people if you're lucky and this one I think hit everybody. So that was really good. Um just think from things from lesson planning, planning for substitutes. you've got your lesson plan that makes sense to you, but maybe you can pop it into chat GPT and and say, you know, make this lesson plan um user friendly for a substitute, things like that. So, it's really good. Um Chad had mentioned that he would maybe like to be able to look at what we did virtually and I reached out to the trainer. So, if anybody else is interested in that, let me know and
012and um hopefully he'll he'll say, "Yeah, go ahead without charge." But even if there is a charge, I think it was only he had his flat fee, but then it was $30 per person. So, I think that would be money well spent if you guys want to tap into that, too. So, we'll see what he says on that. Um coming up later, I think we have a an action item about substitute pay. Um, I'll talk more about that there, but want to thank our, uh, custodial staff for getting the buildings ready. Um, teachers, um, kid kids out at the high school seem super comfortable. I didn't see any tears out there. I did have a report of one that couldn't find his locker. Brent took care of that. But, um, that's all there was. That's
013pretty good. So, Sammy, no tears from you today. >> Good day tonight. your last person. >> Yeah. >> All right. Cool. >> Um sending out information to women and staff on getting set up at Smart Finance and training local time study, working with Rachel and food service. Um we did the reconciliation for the last student audit and then accepting applications and working on the BC and getting the letters out for those. Um Erin and I are attempting to work on Gazby 101. Um this is a requirement for the audit this year. Changed a little bit how it's been done in the past for the post employment benefits. Submitted the maximum effort loan paperwork. Um put a smaller amount in for what can be used for the meal monies. Um because we can always increase that
014because that would reduce the taxpayers come out which we can do the maximum in September and then increase it or keep it the same by December. Um but with Shelby on on what that amount should be. So let them just open late last week. So we're working on that to see what our numbers look like. I'm doing per tech at 240 for actuals. that's due by the end of the month as well as transportation reporting working we worked on the insurance paperwork for the renewals and I we got an email that the health insurance will be coming out shortly so we'll see what the results are for those and I'm just attending other meetings and working on it >> questions for Barb I missed one in mine Mike I wanted to talk about the the
015cops grant one of the things we were trying to do was get the antenna system, the cabling within the buildings, and that's installed at both buildings up and running at the high school. Um I we don't have a connection currently to the elementary. I did find out today that we can use the um fiber. Asent owns the fiber, so there might be a monthly fee for that that we're looking at, but I think it would be probably a lot cheaper to do the monthly fee than it would be to pay for the antenna. So, I think that's pretty good news. Um, talked about the resolution giving land to the city. I think that's everything. One other thing on the AI training. Um the presenter did pulled the staff 0 to 10 how comfortable you would
016be using AI and the average response was 3.9 at the beginning of the um presentation. At the end of the presentation the average was 7.56. How comfortable would be after the presentation? So that's a awfully good uh training date. So really good. So Jet VPT you can if you have a subscription you can use it more than like four or five prompts per day. Is that is it limited like prompts per day or how is it limited? it there are is a number of prompts per discussion I think >> but I think if you start another discussion you can continue on and then there's a limited number of like if you want to take a PDF and put it in >> summarize it for you or whatever you can do once per day >> I
017believe it's once >> five >> it's five prompts per discussion is it five also five uh five uploads They call them five uploads a day on the free version or you can pay for it. >> Right. That's what I'm saying. Like the So I wonder if they offer a subscription for a organization like a school where you could have 200 login or something for I don't know. William up on that. That's where it's all headed. You know, the quicker people get used to it, better off. I mean, we can get ahead of the curve on that. I'd be I'd be surprised if the unpaid chat GPT version was limiting to most people, >> right? You mean that's plenty? I think so. Yeah. And I, you know, I just I I'd be surprised because it's pretty
018powerful. I don't really understand that well, but I haven't yet the free version, you know. So, and my wife hasn't either. She's in the medical field. Yeah. Some pretty big words. >> So, yeah. >> Oh, sure. >> Yeah. Probably don't need it, but >> probably don't need like you're done for the day. >> They never cut you off. >> No. So, but certainly if if it became a super useful tool and is bettering our education, not just being convenient, but truly making us better, then people were saying, "I'm being limited." >> Yeah. >> That I mean, certainly be worth talking about. >> All right. Okay. So, that's the administrative reports, old business strategic plan updates. So, we're getting really close on this one. Goal three, just as a reminder to everyone, all CAP students will
019be involved in at least one community outreach service project a year. Service projects will be organized at each grade level. So, the challenge has been getting the action plan finished for that. There's a lot going into that and uh I think we we got pretty good head start on it. Did you have anything in that department? >> Yep. So last week we had an all staff meeting on Tuesday and I had my middle school and high school staff uh come up with some ideas. We have locked in our sixth grade um reached out and they are going to be doing monthly contact with Senior Living. Some of it's going to be in person. Some of it's going to be you know either writing letters or something probably be more um I don't don't think it'll
020be that much email. probably be more things so that they can can deliver. Um then I we do have uh a number of other things that we're um that we're reaching out to and I don't know I mean I have my list here. I don't know if I want to necessarily say it but um like for instance the um the food shelf downtown, they don't open again till tomorrow. They're only open Tuesdays and Thursdays. So I missed them last week. Um I know that uh we're looking into the days of giving at Merchants Bank and there's a couple other locals that were um looking out they're looking into. I did reach out to um being fair. I did it today. Um, but I did talk to both Jeff Adamson and Gene Meyer, the mayors of
021Brownsville and um, Browns or Brownsville and Een. And I talked to Jeff on the phone for a while and I've been emailing with Jean about some potential ideas too, just to try to bring in those communities. Our goal is we want to obviously create teacher buyin because they're the ones that are going to be going and doing it. We want to try to create as much buyin as we can with the students by keeping it local and um you know seeing that what they're doing is going to directly impact um you know the people around us or or even um things like that. So I think that while it's not locked in, we have some like very serious leads that we should be able to have them locked in by hopefully if not all of
022them most of them by next month. Cool. So perfect. It'd be nice to get that all up nailed down here. I was listening to a podcast the other day and they were talking about one of the biggest things people struggle with is public speaking, especially kids. And uh the way they did it at their school was you would you would practice it to cats. They had cats. You start speaking with cat to cats because they're very unthreatening. And then they take them to a assisted living facility and they deliver their speech or whatever presentation to both folks, you know, and they uh because they're less threatening than a group, your peers or adults or whatever. And uh they said it went awesome and the you know the old folks loved it and they ask more
023question like if you ask a a group of peers, do you have any questions? They're not going to ask any serious questions, but these folks would have all sorts of interesting questions and they were thrilled with the whole situation and it helped. >> I don't know, something to think about. >> Y eighth grade, seventh grade age or something. I don't know. >> So, where do they Well, I don't know. >> I'll send you >> I don't know if they were stuffed cats or real cats. I don't know. Oh, she just said they were cats, but maybe it was one cat that just got had to sit there for >> more. >> Anyway, I thought that would be a good idea for something, you know, kind of kill a few birds with those there. Okay. Uh
024HVED project update. So, at the last in-person HVAD meeting, they had a little tribute to Mr. Spencer for his nine years of service on the board committee assignment. And uh I think you chaired one of those committees, didn't you, Spencer? Curriculum or something? >> Um >> yeah, I think you were up at a wrestling thing in Roseel County. Is that true? >> Yeah. Yeah. It was 10 miles from the Canadian border. >> That's my old stop ground, man. The Rose County Fair. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My wrestler won. You were 165 pounds and he beat a guy 385. >> Oh, wow. came off the top run, you know, to do it flat. I mean, you know, that whole grand stand. I wish they do that at the at the Houston County Fair. It's longer than
025a football field. No pass. You couldn't get and the little kids got to stand right next to the ropes and they were cheering for the good guys. It was a good night of entertainment. >> So, this is a professional wrestling. >> Professional wrestling or whatever you call it. >> Yeah, it was a wonderful night. with half a dozen of our dragging alums there and went down the Ouija club afterwards celebrating Tomy's win. So >> yeah, it was all fun. Got to do that once in a while. >> I saw Faith Hill perform born at the Rose County Fair when I was a kid before she was and she brought Tim McGrath on stage with that big deal. That was before they were huge, >> right? Yeah, >> for sure. They pack them up. It's a
026pretty good community for sure. >> Well, they wanted to they had a tribute to you up there and uh they wanted to give you a plaque recognizing you for your service and thanking you for your nine years of service on Hatha Valley. Want to pass that. So, um, now I'm on the board and, uh, want to give you guys a little update here. So, the, uh, move in, so I've been to two meetings. There's an inerson one and a, uh, special a special meeting just recently. The move in time as of right now is January of 06 or 26 rather, so about four months from now. I have no idea how they're going to pull that off. If you see the the building, but that's their timeline. They're supposed that's about two years behind schedule.
027Um the I found this interesting. I did a little digging and I got this from Deb, the the director up there. the JPA that we signed, the joint powers agreement that we signed in the fall of 23, that was signed before any due diligence was done on the building. So, we signed the JPA and then they did their due diligence phase and which I found to be very enlightening because no private company would ever commit to that type of a purchase before the due diligence phase. Um, the problem with doing that, of course, is that the roof has been leaking for years, and that wasn't found. There's mold in the walls. That wasn't found. And the 4, >> what was it? $4.2 million spent to buy the building and 11 million in reservations. See, that's
028why you do your due diligence first because that $4.2 2 billion price tag comes down quite a bit when you know there's a leak in the roof and mold in the walls. >> Okay. >> Then Chad claimed that he knew it. You know that the kid from Mike Stone Pike, you know, and that but I don't know if he knew it before. And of course Eric Morgan hammered it pretty good. Eric was on Zoom that night, you know. Of course, every time I go in there and look across at the leader, I just I see hatred, you know, because I love people that have integrity and I just don't think she does. So, I mean, I tried to go out semi behaving good, you know. So, >> well, bottom bottom line is when we voted
029on that joint powers agreement, uh, we weren't we were not told these things and We I was operating under the assumption even though I voted no on that thing that at least they had done their due diligence and they hadn't because that's what I thought they had presented to us. I just want to I'm just telling you guys what I know. Okay? I just want you to be informed. That's it. I'm not telling you to think a certain way. I'm telling you what I know. >> Is there a reason why that it wasn't forward? the the the reason I was given is because they needed the agreement to move forward with the purchase. Well, I'm like you >> I don't see why you can't do your due diligence, have the building inspected thoroughly, etc., and
030then come to the schools and say, "All right, here's what we want to do. We found one central site, it's been inspected, and we're moving forward on it." But that's not what happened. >> That is very weird. Yes. >> I mean, this is no different than a purchase agreement. Like somebody can sign a purchase agreement, but if the inspection isn't done or if it comes back with mold, it's purchase agreement is now obsolete. >> So does that, >> you know, so they can mix it? >> Yeah. I mean, if there's an inspection and it's contingent on an inspection done and the inspection comes back with mold or whatever, it's now I mean, no longer a purchase agreement because it was contingent on inspection coming back. Go ahead. >> Was any of that do we know
031what that was signed >> like what she was talking about >> a contingency in the JPA recently >> purchase agreement or anything >> I don't know I don't know all I can tell you is what the information we were given we were when those folks that whole group of people came and spoke to this board and presented their reasoning to purchase that building to me it was they made it pretty clear that or I was maybe I shouldn't assume but I was assuming that they had inspected the building because I don't understand how you can't but turns out they didn't >> be curious to see the paper that was signed >> the JPA I will send everybody I'll send everybody a copy of the JPA read it over again >> well that's just the that's
032just the JPA between the school districts what about the actual purchase agreement as well can we get a copy of that >> I'm Oh, good. Yeah, >> I think that would be important as well for the JPA and the purchase agreement, right? >> I think >> I'm going to lean on Julie because she knows this stuff. >> I will definitely take a look at it. >> I will ask for the purchase agreement and I'll when I get it, I'll send you all the purchase agreement and the JPA. >> Couldn't just wishful thinking but could have cracked pot while you're overturning that decision. Well, I don't know. I don't know. Um, the liquor store that's right when you walk in the front door, this hadn't been figured out either. And originally, they were planning on using
033the entire building. The liquor store had a no termination clause in their lease agreement. So, that liquor store is going to remain there for five more years. At which point, I don't know what they do with it. kick them out or um and expand or the liquor stores at the front door of the school. >> Is both of them not a great option. >> Is that the one that goes back in as you take your right coming from the front or is that the one on the side? >> It's in the front there. >> Well, you know the liquor store, you'll see it from the outside. >> Yeah. And of course she tried to tell me that there was no way they could see the get in that liquor store that was enclosed off in
034the inside. I tried to book that one night. >> Well, when you and I went to that meeting together and we met in the parking lot there in front of the main entrance that right there by the main door >> for sure. She claimed that they couldn't have access to what she was telling me. looked to me like it could, but I had never walked around the >> interior access probably. >> Yeah. From the inside of the building, I don't think you get to it. >> Um >> the Winona School District is still not part of Hed. >> Well, why would they? They get the same services whether they're part of it or not. >> But they don't pay for the the remodel. They don't pay the keep the lights on, but they can utilize
035the services. Uh but we're paying and and they're loying a whole bunch of people who pay taxes in their town and >> but that's a mini school district that's not part of their their paych. They can get the services and they don't pay any different than what we do. That's what she told us the last time she was here because we asked that question. >> Well, I think it depends on whether or not they want to or not. >> They have they're both obligated. They're not obligated to provide anybody's services, but they're obligated or they're they are providing services to Winona. And Winona is not helping keep the lights on or paying for the 11 million renovation. Um, that's one thing I really hoped that they would demand that either Winona doesn't get services or
036they become part of HBE and help with a bill, but that you know pass anformational law. Um, I found this interesting. the uh as far as the businesses in that building are concerned, this is a little newspaper excerpt from the Winona Post. Uh business owners Tim Ston and Mark Sultan said they received a letter from the director of HBET threatening to lock up their shop and confiscate arcade machines because the business was 5 days late on rent despite the owners talking to the director about paying days prior. The owner said their com their the owners said their combined 20 years of experience in the business. They have not experienced anything like this. Quote, "Loing their investment in the mall location is one thing, but then having someone rake you over the goals and try to
037confiscate the last of your assets in that place and having that be a school is another." When asked about these claims, the director declined comment. So, my assumption is if they weren't true, you wouldn't decline comment. You'd set the record straight. Uh, the last meeting was a special meeting called um to approve a playground for $420,000. And I asked how many kids it would service, and they didn't know. So, finally, they got back to me on that. It'll service about 20 kids for $420,000. I was the the only one that voted no on that. Good. >> So anyway, that's a little update on HBED for you all. >> You know, my biggest concern there is that uh they give Brad Carlton a lifetime time contract till he's 100 years old. I don't think it'll belly
038up with his leadership. I think he's almost as sharp as Barb. They're probably the two best business managers that I've ever seen. Hopefully, he'll visit with Brad. I think he'll hopefully keep things under control there. >> What's his name? >> Bradley Carlton. Pretty sharp, >> right? >> And you know, occasionally he comes on and gives his report. He don't even come to the meetings anymore, but the one meeting I know he was upset on something because he never ever showed up and she said he was gone. Good. Anyway, all right, that's an update from H. >> Uh, moving on. New business items. >> Um, wanted to bring forth the topic of substitute pay. Um, I think uh I also shared shared with folks the the pay that uh right back. Um, local schools are kind
039of outpacing us. Um, we've got uh we're $135 and for a substitute per day substitute teacher 1425 per hour for pair of professional pay. Um, Chatfield pays 165. Do 175. Lansboro is a little lower than us at 125, but they also pay mileage. So, >> yeah, it's probably more than 125 when you factor in mileage. Well, for sure. Uh, Lacrosse and Hoka is at 150, Naval Cannon's at 135, Leur 140, Plane Del Middle 170. Um, so we're kind of on the low end of that. There's a few others that are at the 135. Um, and then the the hourly rate, Lansboro is at 1741 for their pair of professionals. Uh, do is at 16, Chatfield at 1690, Springrove is at 1350, and we're currently at 1425. So, we're kind of on the lowish end of
040that, too. Um, in talking with Springrove, they probably said they're going to do whatever we do with ours. So, >> on a side note there, Mr. Alma Mada raised it from 135 to 15. Yes. Y >> what's the average of all the schools kind of >> um 150 would be about average. I mean you've got do Riota at 175 Plane Milville at 170 Wash Kellogg at 175. So they're on the upper end. Um, yeah. I originally was thinking before I compiled this list, we should bump it up to 140, but I don't think that's enough. Maybe 150 isn't enough, too. I don't know. >> Well, when you get done with Kelly Professional and, you know, PLC turned it over to them. I got my license, did all the course work, and of course I love
041that American history Alaska and culture that they had there because it's really interesting because I've got friends that from Cast Lake, but they got one of the Lebanon in the state there and stuff. But I mean it uh yeah it's what I'm saying is Kelly and this is just my problems and I was going to ask because I believe you're the expert on that Karen. Have you had any issues with Kelly professional? I don't know. They have inserted they took over for TO they have inserted an OB 365. I answered 150 questions. It's almost like when did you go to the bathroom last? sent me. I've never seen anything like it. I got down to I had five left. The guy kept saying 10. I got five left. And then he said that they could
042not get in. They could not get in to my email. I had the wrong They had the wrong email address. I sent him a couple that would work. And I don't know, a lot of you people are more technical than I did. So I thought maybe I should have the same email as I got for SEO, you know, at agroup.cc CC as I should have for for uh for [email protected]. But I don't know what to do. I mean, I paid for my license and I can't substitute in the state of Minnesota. They don't even give me the openings because I couldn't take five questions and I could not get any help out of Kelly education. So, are you getting any help out? >> You're the first one. Yeah, because that's what scares me now. Our
043people are going to have trouble getting in, too. >> Well, some have already started picking up some of our teacher spots already. >> Okay. Well, that's good. Going through. >> I've seen some vacancies that have been posted for teachers, right? >> So, they're picking them up. >> Okay. I mean, it don't it don't bother me. I mean, I can drive across or drive the water, >> but I can certainly get them a couple. >> Yeah. to be nice to you because all I had to do was take five, but they won't even give me the open. >> Okay. So, I can I'll certainly get some calls, see what they can do. I don't know how much they're going to, >> right? And I wasn't worried about myself that much. Don't get me wrong, but I'm
044just hoping he didn't have a lot of other stuff to run into. Same issue I had to run into because the guy tried as hard as he could a lot of credit. It's not about me. It's about the kids. I told him I love you guys. >> I see we have our first sub in the building tomorrow. >> Okay. >> Um so I'm actually just popping through to see if I who's all been in our building or like he's all scheduled to be in our building. So >> I can try what what information they will give me. >> Okay. Okay. Thanks. It's it's no big deal. Maybe it'll work out sooner or later. But >> you know it was you know it gets real frustration you know and stuff. You know you're wondering if you're
045going to see your 76th birthday tomorrow. You get you know I can do that. >> Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. >> Yeah. >> All right. So as far as this the pay rates concerned or is this just first discussion first look and then we decided September >> we could do it I think the last time we raised it was in October of 23 >> was it 24 um so I think we can do it and I I don't yeah I mean we can do it at any time but uh so the average pair of pain that I just kind of did and I only had six schools respond with the PAR hourly rate, but the ones that responded the average PAR fee is 1583 per hour. Um, and I haven't added up and divided here
046by the but looking to me that 150 will would be kind of still on the lowest end of the average. So, I can do the math here real quick. press. We can circle back. >> Okay. >> What are you? Well, I I came in um thinking that I was going to recommend we increase it to $150 per day um for substitutes and at least $15 an hour for pair of pay. >> Okay. >> What about the retired 140 for >> you would want to go at least $5 a day more for that. Seven seven more. >> So like the regular 15 say >> here for retired teachers from that used to teach here $5 more. >> So that would be 155. >> Is that what they're is that what you're saying Greg? >> Yes. So
047155 for retired teachers from Calonia who are sub 150 for daily rate of a sub and $15 an hour for Paris. I have all that correct 165 for retire for subset now. Is that what you're recommending? Correct. That is what I would recommend. Yes. >> All right. >> Discussion. >> What's the recommendation? >> You said the average is like 1580 or something. >> 1583. But some of those are those schools that are close to Rochester. They got to compete with the Rochester ones. I think they're at over $20 an hour. So, I don't know if we need to compete with Rochester. >> Do we want to do anything for our support staff who've retired and come back? I know that's usually a big thing. Some of our support staff members who retired, they want to
048go back an hour. >> Could we do something for our support staff for our teachers? >> Well, like here we're doing a retired teacher. They get five months more a day. 250 more. >> I mean, you could even do like 15 25 or 16. I don't know. What do you I mean, >> I know there's are some support staff that don't come back. So, >> because they've been here quite a few years. So, I think retired and that don't want to come back for a little bit of money. >> So, I kind of like the idea of doing something like that for support staff to say, "Hey, >> thanks for your service. Appreciate you coming back and helping. That's only if they retire. It's like teachers don't 155. >> Would 16 be enough to sweep
049them? >> I would think so. >> Okay. So, we can do this tonight if we have. So what's on the table here would be for retired or for sport staff parents $15 an hour. Retired sport staff $16 an hour. $50 a day for subs and $55 a day for uh retired teachers. Does that sound correct? >> Yes. >> The only thing I would say is you potentially are if you have a pair of was coming back at $16 an hour, you would make an extra $75 a day. >> That's what we're saying. >> Teachers would make five based on those numbers. >> Retired teachers do 145 and 155 >> now is 150 160. But you're saying the extra dollar an hour is kind of it's a bigger bump than it is for a teacher >>
050percentage wise over a day >> because you'd make an extra $5 a day as a as a certified substitute where as a as a support staff substitute make up to 7 and 1 half hours. So, how about 160 for retire? Does anybody want to make it? >> So, now we're at 160 for retired subs, 150 for regular subs, $16 an hour for retired support staff, $15 an hour for non-retired support staff. >> One thing worth considering is, you know, what's the starting pay for starting pay in the support contract, support staff contract is 168. So 168. >> That's on group one though, right? as group two. >> So if a substitute teacher makes 15 >> 15 and then for adult I mean >> I just worry about those being a little too close and that
051doesn't necessarily mean the subs are being paid too much. But you know the convenience of being able to pick up a job because they're available they're pretty available sub positions for a pair of professional. So rather than committing to you know, the other day the convenience to say, "Oh, I'm gonna I'll just be a sub, work four days a week, take Fridays off, you know, will that pull away from our market of pair of professionals to be full-time?" And I don't think the Yeah, I mean, the issue isn't subpay being too high. It's the opposite. So >> that's what I was thinking this whole time we were talking like why even why even I mean I guess benefits but >> if the sub today could we back pay could we like think about this for
052a month and get it right >> and I think that might be what we did last year or last last retroactive >> retroactive no it's not retroactive it just starts effectively >> that board meeting is October 15th to start county services >> first or like right after board meeting starts retroactive. >> So should we get our ducks in a row for >> let's do that. >> I mean I I came in or I sent that out on Friday I think and was had in my head we'll do 150. I hadn't really thought about what we should do for the Paris. Okay, we'll get that ironed out and get it on the next agenda. Uh, board member reports. Melissa, you got >> no teachers. >> Yeah, teacher contract. That's good news. >> Oh, yeah. >> All
053right. Um, and all I had was is the presidential fitness challenge coming back or what? >> That's what I hear, Miss Julie. Oh, I'm sorry, Julie. >> I don't have anything in >> your There was two over there, too. >> Sorry. >> I didn't even notice. >> Okay. My bad. Um, is the presidential fitness challenge coming back or what? >> That's what I hear. >> Yeah. So, so is it like Mr. Beacon has started doing this? >> Does that is I didn't know that was elementary. >> Oh, was it high school? >> Well, I know it's for sure high school. I didn't know. But we did it. >> No, we did it growing up. >> I probably just don't remember. >> I do remember doing that. I didn't really I probably didn't really know why
054I was doing it. >> Probably enjoying myself. >> They got rid of it in 2013 and now back. So, I was just wondering if Mr. B had a plan. I'm sure that he'll do >> the last time that was a thing. >> 2013 they eliminated that brought it back now. >> And I think it started with Did it start with Kennedy? JFK >> launch in the 50s. >> Wasn't it JFK that started that? >> Or maybe it was even earlier. says the program initially launched in the 1950s. >> Battle communism pretty >> does anybody else have anything? Okay. In that case, I would like to make a motion to adjurnn. We seconds. It's uh what time it is? >> 6:20. All in favor say I. >> All oppose say no. Motion carries. 70. Meetings.