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Regular School Board Meeting 6/16/25

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2025-06-17
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Houston County, MN
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6,423 words · about 36 min
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2026-05-19

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001of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. Okay. Uh, roll call. Derek here. Julie is out of town. Chad is not here. Lee here. Melissa here. Mike's here. Spencer. Yeah. Uh, Craig is out of town. Nate here. Yeah. Dear Gretchen here. And I told Sammy she'd have to come in the summer months. So adoption of the agenda. Barrett moves it. Second. Melissa second. All in favor say I. I. All oppose say no. Motion carries. 50. Warrior Pride. This would be a uh accepting a monetary donation from the American Legion Post 191 for the Warrior Fishing Club. Spencer moves it. Lee seconds. All in favor say I. I. All post say no. That carries 5 Z. No board showcase tonight. No

002student school board. No public comment consent agenda minus the local literacy plan that does not have to be approved by the board. Is there any questions or discussions on the consent agenda? I got one. to the Schmidz. Craig's probably want to answer it, but they're I was looking at their thing like for kids at in our district, it's like a dollar a mile and they're like a mile or two out of our district. It's not like it's break. We actually that's just a journal entry. They don't actually charge us extra. They go a little bit out of the way, but I just ask for some amounts to the transportation report. So, and that's been that's language has been in that country. So potentially we could get kids at a tech are just outside our district.

003They have to come. The only time they do it is if it's really close or something otherwise or I know there's one up on top and they're like turn around like a mile and a half from there. Yeah. So they got five miles to where they are getting picked up where they they aren't. They got to drive their kids to younger kids which they be nice like as a parent standpoint if my kid was getting dropped off the phone waiting for mom and dad to get there. Yeah. She's done the ha thing just because he needs that. Okay. Anybody else? All right. In that case, all I'll make the motion. Please second it. All in favor say I. I. All post say no. Motion carries 5 to zero. All right. So, this would be action

004item for the bread products. Rachel, I talked to Rachel this afternoon and she said she crunched the numbers and she knows what we use and all that stuff and she says she recommends sticking with Pan of Gold over the Bimbo bakeries. Everybody good with that? Sticking with the What's that? I don't know if she uses one or the other. And she says the the stuff that she uses the most of is cheaper than Pentagle. It would save what you say. Uh it saves like 46 bucks a week if we go with Okay. Derek makes the motion. I'll second. Le or Melissa seconds. All in favor say I. I. All oppose say no. Motion carries 5. Dairy products. There's only one there. I'll make a motion. Second. Eric seconds. All in favor say I. I. All

005post say no. Motion carries. 5 Z. And then the gasoline fuel makes a motion. Eric makes it. Spencer second. All in favor say I. I. All post say no. That one carries 5. And then the last action item is the adopt the budget for the 2025 2026 school year. Did were you going to talk later about stuff? I can do well whatever you prefer. Remember this is this is like our this is what we went over in this is our budget for well Barb can speak on that more at the administrator report if that's all right that work okay okay Lee makes it all second it all in favor say I all oppose say no motion carries 5 to zero administrative reports. Mr. Polard, um just a couple of things uh from the middle school

006high school. I'm very happy to say as we sit here right now, we are fully staffed as far as certified teachers at the middle school high school. Um Nicole, who you guys just approved, she's actually originally from Winona, but I cold called her out of she lives in um California right now, so she's going to be moving back with her husband, which they were planning on doing anyway, but very excited. So, uh, barring no unforeseen circumstances, which is bound to happen, don't get me wrong, we are fully staffed for supervised in that. What's that? It's a math teacher. She's a math teacher. Yeah. Math. 5 through 12. 5 through 12. So, that's actually gives us some flexibility in there that we currently don't have as well. Um, so very lucky to to have found her.

007We had summer school uh the last two weeks which ended last week or technically last night but um so we had uh 12 classes that were recovered at for our two weeks of summer school this year. So obviously it's good that kids take advantage of that. It gives them more opportunities uh throughout the school year with um electives that they can take. Um, other than that, it's just a lot of summer projects right now, working with the custodians, digging through all the piles of stuff that have piled up throughout the the school year. So, um, I would say that just like I said, a lot of housekeeping items. Um, one of the things that we talked said that we were going to talk about tonight was the, uh, surveys for our staff. I don't know

008is that is now a good time for me to talk a little bit about them. Yeah. Okay. So, was it uh that was a new business item? Oh, is that a new business? You guys want We can wait. So, um No, I guess that's what I have going right now. Cool. Thank you, Mr. M. Yeah. You want to pull up? Oh, I'm ready. Okay. So, one time um earlier in the year in the winter, I shared out some data from our I Ready assessment. Um I should have done it right away in the fall, too, but I hadn't even thought loaded at that point, but we do do it three times a year, fall, winter, spring. Um and it's just another measure that we use to see uh how much our kids are learning, how

009on track they are, and it breaks it down almost to the infinite level. So, what you see here, each dot represents a grade level. Um, you know, you could have them labeled to show each grade level and then you can break it down by teacher by grade level and and like I said, all the way down to the individual kid um every kid in the whole school. So, for for tonight's purpose, I'm just going to share with you and kind of reshare with you what what the data looks like. Um there's two different assessments, reading and math. And this graph is a quadrant if you remember this winter when I showed it a little bit. So basically the bottom left would mean low performance, low growth. Bottom right is high performance. So kids that are

010uh know a lot but they're not growing very much. The top left quadrant is low performance, high growth. So you might have students that um don't know much but they have learned a lot throughout the school year. And then lastly, this is the the the target quadrant to be in the high performance, high growth. So basically what this illustrates is students are performing very well and they're also growing a lot relative to people that are in the same performance level as them. So basically how this works is the growth component depending on where each individual kid is at. If their performance is really really high, we have nationally normed data that shows you how much those kids are expected to grow throughout an entire school year. If they did exactly what was expected, each individual

011kid, of course, this is an average by grade level, they'd be right there. or a kid who may have a lot of prior knowledge and come into the school year knowing more than your average student but then grows the normal amount or the average amount they'd be on this line. So the top right corner is always the goal to be there and super proud to show that um every grade level made it. This one was above the line just barely but it's that's really good data. Um we met with the I Ready Curriculum Associates rep and he he echoed that that you know he works with a lot of districts and that data looks really really good. This is K through five data. So and then if you scroll down a little bit Nathan and

012when we met with the rep we are looking at expanding through eighth grade I already so that was that was why we met with them. So yeah, this is math. Same thing. You see a lot more clustered here, one grade level, uh, you know, above and above and beyond there with the growth. But once again, I just I really like I already data for schoolwide because it gives you that target that top right quadrant to be in there is awesome because it not just measures what do students know, it's how much are they growing relative to where they're at. So the other very useful part of this is, you know, with something like MCA data, you don't know the results until it's too late to really do anything. I will say it's never too late.

013You're always thinking, you know, the next school year, the next school year, stuff like that. But you you get these measures throughout the throughout the year, not even just these big assessments in the fall, winter, spring, but as you're going throughout the school year, you get measures of where kids are at. um it's a little more useful in that way. The other part that's cool about it is being nationally normed uh means it goes beyond state lines for comparing students and where they're at. Um, you know, the MCA the MCA is obviously very very important to us as a Minnesota school, but a a simple question would would help us rethink, you know, who's to say the MCA is a better test than other state tests. And that's why national data is cool to look

014at because it kind of takes the it takes takes that component out of it. You're really looking at your students compared to other students around the country. So, um, yeah. Any questions about Yeah. Can Can you go up to the top one again? Oh, I missed that dot way up there. Yeah. I was like, why is there five on that one? So, that that represents a grade. It represents a grade. And I have I have in my possession um every teacher by name. So you can really see, you know, each individual teacher and then like I said, even the individual, but um I chose for for board meeting to keep names off of it. It's hard for me not, right? You know, this person should be very proud of where they're at, but just to

015keep the team a team and not pick out individuals. That's interesting. Could uh so it's nationally norm. So you could put let's just say that that's second grade for the sake of argument. Could you put a dot where the national norm is? So the national norm for I mean I'm not saying off top of your head. I'm just saying does I already give you the ability to say our second graders are doing this. The national norm is this. Yeah. The average should be right in the middle. That's the average. It should be um I I rely pretty heavily on our data coordinators. Mr. Hay Bison helps me fully understand this so that I can present it. I would want to I would want to run it by him being kind of the data guru. But

016if I understand it correctly, right smack dab in the middle is average performance and then average growth. Okay. So, so the reason I ask is it if that's really good stuff and if you can make it so you could show a trend and make it comparable to the national norm or other districts or whatever, then you could say you're going out, you know, asking the public for going to levy the public for money or whatever. and say, "Well, this like this is the kind of information that's good to present and say, this is how we're doing." Okay, we're not in the lower left corner. And people would might be more likely to be well and that's the exact reason why I'm sharing it right now. So, right. But I mean to more people, right? Oh,

017I'm saying to make it really useful though, if you could make the if you could get get it to somehow ask Hey Bison and if he could get it to show a trend year over year trend A and B make it have comps to the to the national norm or some other thing. Trends and comps is what that's how you make data really useful. That looks great, but it want to make it really operationally relevant. It has to trend sometimes. Yeah. And one thing and then one thing we do look at as far as a trend goes is, you know, throughout the school year we there's different benchmarks for fall, winter, spring because as the school year goes on, kids know more because they're learning more. And so, you know, we do we do that

018just within our district. So, what I'm getting at is I I do think that would be very possible. In fact, I already probably has a way to just get to somewhere and it shows the line. It might make it for us. But the other the other thing I mentioned in the winter I already is this school year was year number one as uh parti you know districts opted in or out to participate in a study trying to figure out how is this as an MCA predictor. Um, I'm always careful to to make MCA like the only thing we're going towards. Um, but it is important because it's what people look at most often. Um, anyway, using this as a predictor. So, in the fall, if you see a deficiency in certain areas of math, that

019being an indicator for how kids are going to perform on the MCA, that way as a teacher, you know, we got to bump this up a little bit. we got to put a little more time and effort into this topic because we're, you know, probably going to fall a little short here in the MCAs if we don't. Um, so yeah, I'm I'm excited. I don't know if that'll be coming out next year or when they'll kind of find out that we do use I ready math curriculum. So what we're seeing here is called the diagnostic. It's the assessment component. We do it for math and reading. We use the we use their math curriculum which is the actual workbooks that students write in the teacher guided lessons all of that for reading. We don't use

020higher ready their curriculum. Um certainly always one thing we talked with the rep about was um you know looking at their reading curriculum a little bit but uh as of now we're we're not highly motivated to change it because what we're doing right now is working pretty darn good at least at the elementary level we're seeing a lot of success with it. So yeah, other questions about nationally norm assessments. Um, I ready itself. I had some notes ped up but I never looked at yeah data informed decision making. Um, yeah I had highlighted here it shows growth not just benchmarks. Um, you know the MCA show whether you met standard or didn't. That's about the most you get out of it. You know, Nathan does a really good job for the whole district breaking that

021data out into the different strains and see. But I don't want to say it's too late by then. This is great because it's all year long. So, it's just much more useful. The benchwork reports come out in September. That's when they public just like when MCA results become public. And then you can break it down. And I've done this since I came here. I'll break it down. So in third grade, what standards did we do, you know, really well in? What standards did we not do as well in so that we can look at our curriculum and saying, are we meeting this standard? Um, you know, where do we need to realign some things? So you'll do that all the way, you know, third grade through 11th grade. Obviously, not all high school grades take

022it, but it's a little bit harder in high school because they're taught over multiple years, but it's it's pretty good to show like and the state even breaks it down as far as to say this standard should be average. This standard should be easier than average. This should is a more complex topic. So, it's harder than average. And so, we can kind of look at, you know, the things that we're expected to do well in. We want to make sure we're doing well in order missing some of our, you know, some of the easier things according to the state. So, I'm curious about your question too, Mike, where the average would be because sometimes like with we use fast bridge assessment for our screen, like our screener tool for looking at kids who might need

023intervention and stuff like that, the average they use like the 40th percentile. you think it would be 50. So I I don't say that with, you know, super super high confidence that the middle is average. Common sense would make me think it is, but that's not always how it works. So I'm gonna reach out to J and see. He'll be able to give me a quick answer probably text. So curious myself. Um, any Oh, I should I should add this. You know, at the elementary level, kindergarten, first and second grade, we don't have MCA data. So, this is super super useful for us because we don't, you know, we don't even have that option. Um we we targeted this year as a as a school our site goal which basically means our school site we

024had a goal as an entire staff. Um we based it off I ready data and it was a growth goal. So basically we were we were hoping to to reach a certain number schoolwide K through five of growth not just performance. and we we did end up meeting it, which is great, but just another another motivating useful way to to make sure we're always trying to get better. Well, thank you, John. Good job. Miss Julie, yes. Um, I am really just in the midst of all my summer stuff. We got summer sack, daycare, driver's ed, keeping track of all the school vehicles and who's got what when. So, yeah, it's been busy, but it's been good. Um, reaching out to instructors for fall classes already trying to get some new stuff in the works to

025offer. Um, and two weeks ago, I wrapped up all the testing, um, like post test editing I had to do. And the final scores do come out on June 27th, but that's just for like school staff. They become public in August and that's when we'd be able to like discuss them with So yeah, that's all I got right now. Sounds good. Any questions for all right jigging walley right now? So is Chad, by the way. Just remember he's up north fishing in Canada, too. So um all right. So we can start with the budget. We met as a finance committee last week to go over things and as always we budget very conservatively but looking at the forecast of Minnesota excuse me budget forecast excuse me. Um I didn't want to paint a pretty picture

026because the next few years aren't going to look very good. Um actually a week ago today they went into special session and um they did take some funding away um reducing the special transportation down to 95%. Um so that's a bit concerning. They reduce the library aid down. Um, and they're even talking about doing more for special, removing 250 million in aid, but they're putting a committee together to figure out how they're going to cut that in the budget in the next couple years. So, I reached out to HF to see what can we do to advocate to be on this committee or advocate for special ed funding. Um, and then you also, uh, you never got the title one funding back, but I was hoping that we would have after you got to 7%

027poverty and 5% the year before. And I think I sent an email out saying how this the state has to work with federal government because of how the calculation is made because we were lower last year, we're going to be lower this year. And I'm like, well, that doesn't make sense when we're back to what we were two years ago. So, a lot of things still in the works. So, hoping to project the worst case scenario, hoping for the best, planning for the worst is kind of where we're at. Um, I I think you guys get the MA updates for the legislative information. So, that kind of gives a little detail. There was there's a webex on Wednesday. I'm attending with Kathy Anderson from NDE to go more detail with more specific runs. are going

028to do runs for each individual school district on what the um 25 legislation affects our funding. Um, other things that I've been working on is per check, we have to submit our estimate for the year for the levy process that'll be happening out this fall. The transportation contract you approved and then Gretch and I have been working on some stuff with community ed, how we can make some of the other snacks and things CACF to generate more revenue. Looking also at some of the daycare issues and working with first family finance on that. And then Gretch and I met regard to food service. Um she has over a $300,000 fund balance. And right now we're allowed to have a sixmon reserve of expenditures, but after this next year we won't. So she's looking at how

029to spend down and what equipment she needs to purchase because last year we bought a freezer at the elementary so that she can have not made delivery get the delivery charges and store the stuff in the freezer. So just constantly trying to find ways to keep funding and generate more funding. Um we were conservative in our um revenue calculation because I wasn't including some that we've heard are potentially coming in the fall for new students. And actually we got a couple calls the end of last week and and just today on new families wanting to tour. So hoping that that'll change your revenue projection in this project. So again, we'll look at that and revise it again once we get into the questions. No questions. All right. Thank you very much, Mark. Uh strategic plan

030update that's coming in August. The Hed project update. Uh nothing at this juncture. I I can speak to that board. Okay. Spencer will hit on it board of course. Uh then the new business item staff surveyor codes. Yeah. Yeah. So this year was just a little bit different because it did we did break out the surveys into three into three pieces. So, we had support staff, middle school, high school, and high school from my building. Um, you know, I'm going to be very honest. I was first glance, I was disappointed with some of the results. Um, however, I did start comparing um them to the ones from last year, and I do think that overall we we moved in the right direction. And I think that the the bottom end per se on a lot

031of them um either got smaller or was eliminated. We had more I would say in the middle than we did um last year or I should say the 23 24 school year. Um one of the nice things this year is we did get the results back a little bit earlier. And so I I think I mentioned this at the last meeting. I do a checkout meeting with every one of my staff at the end of the school year. And so while it's anonymous, so I can't say, well, you said this or you said this, I can say the trend is showing this. Can you give me some more feedback on that and exactly what it is that you feel you're looking for or, you know, what others may be looking for? Um, you know, one

032of the things that makes it hard about it being anonymous is that we obviously didn't get 100% participation because we should have had about 40. Um, and I think we have 24. Um, so that's that's one of the things that makes it a little bit uh more difficult. Um, the other thing cuz I I've reflected on this a fair amount. I've talked to some different staff members just kind of like getting their their feeling um on some things and you know obviously you have some data that's missing like um but the the two things that I really took away from this that uh were the communication and the appreciation which I know we talked about last year and so one of the things that I asked everyone in my staff on checkout is you know

033I tried some new things with communication and I did a weekly um a weekly outlook, a no surprises email that went out every week that basically said, "Here's what we have this week that's going on trying to, you know, get some of those things." Um some really liked it, some didn't. I mentioned that, right? Um some had asked, "Hey, will you do that, but can it go out on the Friday before instead of coming out on Sunday nights?" Okay, yep, that's something that's easy enough. It's just shifting my timet around a little bit. Um, and so that was one of the big things. The other thing that, um, I try to rely on is the Google calendar. And so, like, I can I try to put things in there ahead of time. Um, but what

034I found is they're looking for more of the details earlier than, you know, I'm saying, "Hey, this event, I can tell you September 18th is their CT career fair this year." That's already in the calendar. It's been in there. but they want to know the details. When is my class going to be, you know, disrupted? What am I doing? What do I do during my prep? Things like that. So, that was one of the big takeaways that I got um in talking with the with my staff. Um and then the other thing that going back to the uh appreciation um that was one of the things again that on first glance it was kind of you know disheartening I guess but it we did see improvement over last year but then I also this year

035I just asked what is it that I can do to make you feel more appreciated because I know we even talked at the last meeting Mike said me telling Mike good job is not going to necessarily will motivate him. So, what is it that's going to um motivate you? And the thing that I heard over and over is we want you in our classrooms. We want you to sit down for 15 minutes and watch what it is that I'm doing every day because I'm going to feel appreciated that you're taking the time. You know, right now I do walkthroughs. Not as much as I would like. Um, but a lot of times I'm in there 30 seconds, maybe a minute, maybe two, and I make the rounds a lot faster. So, just slowing down and

036trying to um make sure that I'm taking the time to do that and then being able to have those reflection conversations. So, while I'm still maybe going to focus on the same goals uh that I did last year, I think they're two very very important ones and I want to make sure that um that we get them where we where I want them to be. So, Um, like I said, I've talked to a number of teachers, um, talked to some parents and just really trying to dig into exactly what it is because there's some so many things on these surveys, especially in the responses I'd love to ask like, can you explain this to me? Can you tell me what this means? But that's one of the things that we can't do. Do you think

037the idea that that it is anonymous is bad? I don't necessarily think it's bad because I think that you're going to get more honest feedback. Yeah. So that's where I feel like I was able to say I don't know what John I don't know what you wrote on the survey but this is what the trends that I'm seeing just looking at it. Can you help me understand even if you don't feel that way probably heard how somebody else feels. Can you help me understand that? And so that was one of the benefits of doing it that way because yeah, and I I tell people like I want you to be honest with me because if you tell me what I want to hear, nothing's going to change and nothing's going to get better. So some

038of the results that I I won't do anything. Uh yeah, I mean I can talk as much or as little about the survey. I mean I If you guys could email it, that would be great. Like just send it. We did. Oh, you did email us. John did. Sorry. I sent it to just the school board. Okay. And this is the second year we've done it, right? Okay. So, maybe we can put like a bar or a line chart together seeing hopefully it's trending up, right? That's all we're looking for. Yeah. And and one of the things and I don't want to get nitpicky and I don't want to take a whole bunch of people's time. Um this was just even a conversation that I had today. It's um how frequently do you feel recognized

039or appreciated in your contributions? Who is the target of that? Are we talking about from students? Are we talking about from from other co-workers? Are we talking about administration? Are we talking about school board? We talking about the community. So there what exactly you know it's just something and again not to nitpick it apart but that can be looked at differently I think by different people that could probably be a clarified question in the next couple surveys let's say you feel appreciated by administration if no why not or what would take you what would you like to see to feel more appreciated And the only downside is anytime you change it then your data is going to you got to put a little squiggly line that says what but we changed this question so now

040what we did before but that was just one um that would be important too maybe it isn't you maybe it's my husband to appreciate the work I do we can't really help with that but we can put like a teacher appreciation week or something together, you know, or you know, just anything for public, you know. So, all right. Yeah. I mean, I guess I I might as well. Um I I was pretty happy overall with the results. um picked out a great deal of small things uh to build on some very specific things to implement next year and tweak a little bit. Um yeah, I guess I don't know. I I was I was really happy with it. I just think of it as um something to make sure that I build on rather than

041become complacent with. Um there are you know when you're doing surveys like this you you have to look at the general trend of course but um you know the general positive trend I'm trying to ignore that and find out the small things that can be improved on and there's certainly some but yeah for the for the purpose of presenting tonight I mean suggestions you know communication uh between our intervention team and our gened teachers is certainly something that we've been working on to improve on all year, but um already have plans in place to make even better for next year. Um yeah, I don't know. I I was I was happy with it, but I'm just very lerary of the honeymoon phase of a new principle and making sure that we continue to get better

042and not replace. Cool. Anybody got questions? All right. Thanks, guys. Moving on. Uh, board member reports this week. Spencer. Yeah, I've got one. Um, yeah. And I'm gonna talk about East here a little bit, but I want to pass this out. Last week I was in Stillwater at the moment in our national wrestling hall of fame meetings and we had we had a values. We must spent two couple hours on it, but then we had other stuff to do too. You guys want a copy? My favorite thing on there is our values. You know, we had our value statement, blah blah blah. Values are integrity, excellence, collaboration, and service. Integrity includes honor, accountability, trust, responsibility, transparency, and stewardship and and morality, virtue, virtue, honesty, character, excellent distinction versus merit value. If you want one, fine.

043But I don't see that with our HVAC director and I'm going to get into that right now here and go over some of the stuffs that you know and what and you'll maybe understand why I get frustrated. Of course then last week she I'm still in Still Water actually ended up in their uh emergency room here emergency room there with a cute two bronite as they call it. I would borderline them walk in pneumonia. But I got back, he wanted me to come back on Wednesday night for a meeting. A meeting. I think Mike was invited. Craig was invited with her superintendence cabin. And hey, if I got it, you know, teach me an attitude. Hey, if I got an attitude, you bet I got an attitude when it comes to values, honesty, integrity, and

044all that other stuff. But I caught her in another fib on that on that call as well, but here's what I'm going to go over with you. And I've got cop. He said, "You need the rookie shot up there." And of course, I talked to John Alexander who sold it. And his his dad, Mike, and I've known Well, Mike was my college roommate. They're probably two of the best realtors in Winona, Minnesota. But anyway, he told me that Brook had been leaking for 30 years. So she tells me, "I wished I didn't I wish he'd have told me that three years ago when they got it." Well, any general manager that has a business sense would have had enough common sense to have somebody check that roof out. That's not the only thing that's that's

045issues up there, too. They got mold in the walls. And hey, sorry, but it's not going to be ready in December. Now she's talking target date of January 6th. We'll see. And then you know thing that kind of bothers me and maybe I'm too value oriented but you know the liquor store and that's fine because it's it's on the outside of the building and the kids can't get in there but there are two restaurants probably where they serve alcohol or drinks and I mean that that might be handled well too. I maybe that's not a complaint, but where I get where I get worked up is I get tired of good old boys clubs, but worse yet, I get tired of nepotism and family hirings. Three of Deb's families are in payroll. She obviously gets

046the big salary. Her husband was recently hired as a full-time teacher after studying and uh anyway, they run a good one off. Amy Watson was pretty good there. you know, that's kind of personal game, you know, and stuff. So, her nephew Jeff is the tech director and then Deb's a manager. Got three of one. And uh and then of course the special ed director that was recently hired for that position although she was in 2023 is when she got hired but recently she demoted the gal Tracy Lynn that's been there for for forever in that position and has more special education licenses than the person they gave. And of course, Craig Stitz and the superintendent council up there. Well, guess who the uh special ed director is up there? That's Jen Erin. She moved up

047to the top. And you want the honest truth? $40,000 more than what Tracy was getting. So I I think that mismanagement could turn around and uh bite them sometime because if you have mismanagement in a place doesn't matter what the contract say if you belly it up you know and that's but anyway like I say wanted me to come up there no way am I coming back in Still Water Oklahoma after I walked out of emergency room a couple days earlier you know so and otherwise then too I I don't know I didn't see a figure on it, but they're in the subdivision four in the tech contact for things. You know, it's supposed to be between 25,000 and 175,000, but I don't think, you know, I mean on that I I don't know if

048you went over that or not, but I do know I do know you're supposed to get two or more quotes for that service. That's Deb's nephew. Okay. So, you know, and I don't know. I'm not going to accuse her of breaking the rules for personal gain for his or her family. Anyway, so there needs to be a conversation on a survey of staff and exit interviews of those having to be having to be forced to leave and stuff and and or why they got demoted and that hasn't been that hasn't been told of that person that got moved back to a director and that too or an interventionalist is what she is today. That hasn't been told yet. Oh yeah, she just loves it. She's really excited that I caught it. Caught her in another

049one. One thing is I'm a lie. If you tell one, you got to tell two, three, four, five, six, seven to get out of. And I'm sorry I'm getting worked up. But I mean, I just I've had it up to here. Actually, I asked Mike to go up next meeting with me and see what they're doing up there. So, you know, and give you a little song and dance. And here's another thing that really fun. They should should have conversation or survey with those when they leave or of course be leaving. And I said that, but also they can't fill the positions that they promised the superintendent when this thing was passed. They've only got one interventionalist. They were supposed to get every intervention for every school in the district. I don't know how they

050could get that many, you know, because I asked her at the last meeting. They've only gotten one hired of the whole thing. So, okay. So, you know, and they never ever did tell the one that got demoted that want a reduction than that, too. But like I say, that's pretty much it. You got any more questions you can ask me. Sorry for getting excited, but that's the values my dad grew me up on was uh was obviously honesty, loyalty, and integrity above reproach. That's the same thing the college wrestling coaches wrote for the best recommendation. Definitely. Sorry to get emotional, but I want to tell the truth here so you know what's going on. Is there any other questions? The so the roof I don't remember when we voted on that being told that the

051roof was No. No. Because she told me point blank. I wish John would have told me that three years ago. Well, if you're going to be the business manager fixing to buy that big a building, don't you think you'd hire somebody to look at the book? I mean, that's just my thoughts. I don't know. Is that a disclosure? That's what I'm wondering. I mean, it seems to me like like mold in the wall, that's it. You can test for that. Okay, that's something you that's just due diligence. You test for mold. It might not even be disclosure. It's like the person purchasing should do the due diligence and test for mold in the wall. Um, I mean, it's an old building, so that would be the very first thing that would come to mind. Seems

052to me that HF didn't do due diligence. I don't know if the seller didn't divulge things either, but um I'm going up on the 25th with Spencer. I would encourage anybody who has time to go up there with me to do it. Um but maybe we need to revisit that. I don't know. I don't It's real frustrating. I do know. I apologize to leave. If Kim Gunn was here, I apologized and I apologized to you the other night. Mike, had I known and been able to sort through. I should have known by then how she operated, I would have had the for turn that thing down. I think we could have did better elsewhere. You know, at least we' had more honesty, integrity, you know, instead of good old. Yeah. I mean, the the building

053right next next door to the high school, 1.5 million bucks, you know, can do six schools in there. And the reason they gave that that building wasn't sufficient, they gave like nine reasons. And it was like the doorork knobs aren't up to uh to specs. And I'm like, I could fix that. I could run to fix that tonight. And it was just silly. Was that the evil building? The able building? Yeah. that Lee was telling us about. Yeah. The the able building and the they clearly wanted that on the facility. Oh yeah. And they were unwilling to hear anything else and they clearly didn't do their due diligence if there's mold in the walls and that nobody knew that the roof was leaking. Yeah. Um, as far as the nepotism stuff, you know, I know

054that I don't that's tough to tough to kind of iron out, but you're saying that the director, there was one director was demoted and they hired a different director for $4,000. That was Mr. I don't want to tell you what she's getting and you could look it up, but I couldn't tell you to. Well, but but they got rid of one director, hired him. Yeah. and they moved her down to being an interventionalist or they kept her on but she they cut from four to three and Tracy was the one that got cut and then of course with her position and she went back she did accept the teaching position of she's an interventionist I always thought she was pretty good but then Craig White moved up to the director of the special ed there

055and she was a director of special ed at Rochester too so but the reason she gave me for for hiring her was she's got such a v wide variety of stuff, you know, but she and but then like I say, she come back in fifth and she said that basically that uh that Tracy was happy and really excited in the position she was doing. But I do know for a fact Tracy's applied for two jobs, already turned one down because it was too far, you know. But like I say, I just he's a good person. I guess I hate to see good people. Well, I don't want to use the C word or that, but I've talked to a couple different people on that board, like the guy from Crescent, are they have they ever

056expressed any concern about any of this stuff? Well, Pel Hegel Hegel's wife is on the board, too. Hegel got hired Hegel's wife got hired as a teacher at the meeting. And then, you know, it didn't dawn on me until I went home that night. I said, "God, his wife just got hired, you know, and she taught for 35 years. I think she's a pretty good teacher, maybe 40, you know, and that from Yoda." And I said, "That's Tempest. That's conflict of interest." So the next meeting I brought that up and uh when I said conflict of interest and I'm sitting here, Hegel's sitting there or back over there where Lee was, he turned around. He wouldn't even look at me. He would not even look at me. And I mean, if id had a baseball,

057I probably would have been put in the one in county jail that night because I threw it right at his head and put some common sense in. No, I wouldn't did that. But it was frustrating because he wouldn't even look me in the eye. Dude, I guess my what I was specifically saying is are they are they bringing up concerns like the roof and the mold? Are they like what the heck? They haven't brought it up yet. But that, you know, I did miss that April meeting because my heart and soul was when I'm given scholarship and I had to be down at Keyhigh that night, you know. So, and I didn't I wasn't there. So, I don't know what that brought up, but no, I have to have an attitude operation. Did you see

058me like from my conversations with them, they're all like you'll say, well, what about the roof and the mold? I mean, why wasn't that brought up before we did that drunk fire? and they're kind of like kind of shrug their shoulders or kind of make excuses and it's like you guys what's going on? I don't know. I find the whole thing weird too. So that's why I'm going up. I need the support because I can only take one hour at a time. I shouldn't say that, but it get it gets frustrating. When was the first initial date you were supposed to be in? Wasn't it two years ago? I thought it was two December. When the summer go It's over. It's going to be over by two years ago at least. Yeah. And we don't

059know if they'll be in there or not. They're working on that right now. Yeah. I don't know if they are or not. I don't think they are. I don't know. It's just I the thing I brought up to Heel was if this happened in the private sector, you would never get away with it. But I mean, the the the leader of that project would no longer be around. It it just wouldn't happen. Yet, when it's the public sector, for some reason, when the taxpayers are on the hook, everything gets swept under the rug. Yeah. Because they just know the money train is going to keep on rolling. And it doesn't work like that in the private sector. I'm like, how can you continue on this with the same leadership that you started it and you

060know gives you the the only thing that I see think that would ever save her and I'll give Barb here. The best business managers that I've ever been around obviously their first name starts with Barb Meer and Brad Carlton. Brad's Brad's the one up there. And I know that one meeting, he wouldn't even talk. And that's the first time he's never went over stuff. But Brad's pretty sharp because a lot of this construction stuff that didn't get done, and I'll give him credit. Brad come out instead because it's not been done. They get $450,000 in interest before they have to, you know, pay pay for what they're going to do construction. So that one good thing. I mean, the You you got to say at least one good thing about him after you hammered on

061him about six or seven bad things you know and that but thanks for well okay so we'll learn more on the 25th I guess uh you got any Derek and I don't have any either so in that case has anybody got any last words okay that case I'd like to make a motion to adjurnn second all in favor say I I all oppose say no. Motion carries 5. It is 69. Thank you.

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