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SMFCSD Board Meeting 2024-07-15

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YouTube / Stow-Munroe Falls City School District
Date
2024-07-16
Location
Summit County, OH
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6,721 words · about 38 min
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2026-06-10

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001how does this work if I have something I would like to possibly be considered to be on the agenda how do I get it on there well it may not be on this one but the you get the ticketing is on here yes but it it it was that it was um I wanted to discuss the busing there were three things okay and that yeah that's a better topic for a work session and the same thing with the other proposal and yeah that's also for a work session and I do want to are you talking about the mental health yeah okay I do want to to comment on that um we seem to have a very robust presentation by Mr privet at that last uh meeting that we had um I did see wait does

002this apply to the agenda yes because my my question is why do we have a presentation and then there's nothing on the next agenda about it because you brought to christe's attention another supplier and we are going to invite that supplier to come in and make a presentation as well so how do I get communication how do I get that because you and I are at a meeting tonight and I was planning to talk to you about that okay so yes you're you're all the things you want on an agenda will be on an agenda just maybe not the very next and I just want understand you know you can always you can always call me too so yeah that's fine I mean I just I'm not one to bother and that's you're not bothering

003me you can call me yeah all right yeah yeah no problem okay any other comments or questions about the agenda okay roll call please East Jenkins I Shen i zonic i Wind I binel I and first on the agenda is comments from the audience on things that will be voted on tonight um at this time in our agenda we invite citizens to share their concerns about items on today's agenda that will be voted on only comments on non-agenda items will be heard later in the meeting all comments must be directed to the entire board and be no longer than 3 minutes we will listen to and consider your remarks but there will be no conversation aside from clarifying questions if you are seeking a direct response or further information we ask that you submit your

004request in writing please begin your remarks with your first and last name might well started this is on things that are being voted on tonight yeah that's right you missed that part so no problem so no comments on it anything being voted on tonight okay and we will move on to uh the interim superintendent is that right is it your consent agenda or it is it is okay cool so I'd like to recommend that the Board of Education approve the consent agenda items B through D so if I got have a first and second I have a couple comments is there a motion so moved is there a second second all right I'd like to read the name and the information of the ations listed in the consent agenda and personally thank them for what

005they do for our students in the district as usual um our community is very generous and we thank them for their support so Ryan Courtright donated $10 to the stowman r Falls High School girls volleyball team and the stowman r Falls Community Foundation donated $1,000 to the stowman r Falls High School speech and debate team who are rock stars so we thank them for their donation questions or comments I have a question on the C is that is that like Corey Tilman is that what that contract is for the yes that's for the athletic Trainers for those guys yeah okay so we're continuing our relationship with them they've done a great job for us yeah absolutely any other comments or questions roll call please East Jenkins hi Shen hi zonic hi wind I Mensel I

006treasurers consent agenda there a motion to approve the treasurer's consent agenda so moved and second okay roll call or I'm sorry questions or comments no okay um wish wrong one I wish to recommend that the Board of Education improve all all items list in the Treasure consent agenda okay questions or comments roll call please e Jenkins I Shen I Su donic I wind I pel I okay treasur recommendations wish to recommend that the Board of Education approve the check register for June 2024 as presented is there a motion a motion second questions or comments roll call please e Jenkins hi wind hi Shen hi ponic hi pel hi little SL wish to recommend that the Board of Education approve the financial report June 2024 as presented is there a motion so moved second questions or

007comments roll call please oh I would just like to give a little yep bit of a good news report and I will update it with um this sorry it took to there should be six and I'll update it once um the night goes on so the report I'm passing out that will be on board the board docs the next couple minutes is what I do to get my financial report that I post up here so I it's a nice way to balance or check it against the 5year forecast um so you see all the expenditures it's very similar to the 5-year forecast and this is just for the general fund and you'll see that there's a $2 million above projected uh cash balance so we came in $2 million above what we projected so that

008was my little yay yay so and that'll that'll help moving forward as well what what do you think led to this um I the property increased tax increase did help with that but we definitely did help with making sure people stay within their budgets um definitely led to some of that and uh there are also some of the changes we made for the do better letter as well so questions or comments okay roll call please e Jenkins I Sheen i stonic i Wind I pel I wish to wish to recommend that the Board of Education approve the creation of the following funds as presented and these are class High School class fees okay is there a motion I'll make a motion second questions or comments including Patrick Patrick's what what does FCS stand for FCS

009this is family and consumer science so these are our teammates courses so we have a a a program where our students um our peer models um work with our students have more significant disabilities in the past we haven't charged a fee for their participation in the course for anyone um but FCS requires a lot of cooking um and art requires a lot of supplies and it's the same fee that we charge our other students any other questions or comments roll call please East Jenkins hi Sheen hi syonic hi wind hi pinsel Hi and then the next one is going to be a a resolution to create the 013 fund um which will be the field house fund um this one's a little bit different because we had to get State um authorization to move forward

010with the fund so whereas the district is during the completion of the Fieldhouse and whereas the board desires to charge fees to external users for goods and services now be resolve the treasur CFO is granted to authorize to create fund 013 is there a motion so moved second questions or comments yeah I have a question this was in regards to that statement of external users for goods and services um I don't want to get into a discussion on this but I just want to put for the record a lot of the um research a lot of the reading that I'm doing really brings up a lot of questions as far as having uh mental health facilities and offerings on the campus so basically I just want to kind of make uh for the record that

011I morally and ethically opposed to any medical or Counseling Services um being part of that building any other comments or questions okay roll call please e Jenkins hi Shen hi zonic hi wind hi Benzel hi all right all right interim superintendent recommendations all right first is personel recommendations I'd like to recommend that um the Board of Education approve the recommendations as found in the attachment um with the updated version that you have in front of you okay questions or I'm sorry is there a motion a motion second questions or comments yes I do have questions regarding the um cheerleading um coaches because it seems like after we've had lots of discussion back and forth on the um position that Miss e East Jenkins um is volunteering for and I did see that we get an

012opinion that that states that she's allowed to volunteer and so I'm just kind of questioning why we went ahead and hired somebody for for a position anyway and and are going to spend money that we don't have to spend so volunteers can't fill a position that is a supplemental position that it's a paid position otherwise we would have to as a board riff that position and it would be considered a reduction in force so having um the paid positions filled does not exclude um antonet from being able um to participate so we're just paying money though for an extra person there that we don't have to have so the way that contract reads we do have to have that other questions or oops other questions or comments okay roll call please you drens abstain Shen

013uh I zonic no wind no Benzel yes all right I'd like to um I'm going to move on to B um I'd like to recommend that the Board of Education approve Item B administrative Personnel recommendations so this is Director of Human Resources transition days so this is for um Mr mlove to um do his transition days um and he's already working and doing a great job so is there a motion so moved second questions or comments roll call please East Jenkins hi Shen hi sionic hi wind I benel I right i' like to recommend the Board of Education approve item C this is uh a same thing for de director of operations transition days for Mr Merk train is there a motion so moved second questions or comments roll call please East Jenkins I Sheen

014ionic hi wind hi binel hi all right I'd like to recommend that the Board of Education approve item D this is assistant custodial um maintenance Supervisor pay increase this is for Rick rblc who has been doing two jobs for us since um April and working a lot of extra hours and not charging the district and it was the right thing to do to support his work um he's done a great job is there a motion moved second questions or comments chrisy is this do to the situation Manpower situation the yeah so the the maintenance supervisor is out on FMLA roll call please East Jenkins hi Sheen hi suod donic hi wind hi bzel I right i' like to recommend that the Board of Education approved item e this is a memo U memorandum understanding between

015the Board of Education and the snowman roll Falls classified employees Association so gave a little bit of information in the in this detail sheet so this is just allowing two employees to switch assignments for this school year is there a motion so moved second questions or comments Chrissy for the benefit of the folks here and for U watching on YouTube can you go into a little detail of what that is what we just are talking about here sure so our our um educational assistants our special education assistants are assigned to a program within a building so when they are awarded a position so for example we have our specialized resource room program we have our emotional Behavior Support Program so even though both staff members work within Lake View they're assigned to a program so

016if they want to switch positions just for this year so we had some we had uh we had lower numbers in in our specialized resource room and we moved one of those staff members to our emotional Behavior Support Program because that teacher went to kton so um that was some of our attrition for this year so um when people work with a with a teacher they get comfortable and they want to kind of go with them and it makes sense um so we wanted to honor that and allow that to happen and just let's just say for instance we were opposed to this I mean why why would we oppose it or why would we not agree with it I guess yeah I don't I don't have any good reason why you would um so

017you know this was something otherwise they would have had to resign their positions and hope that they could have bid on an opening in the building um so it's the best it was more of just a process yes yes one in which everybody involved is in agreement yes yeah they brought it to us great any other comments or questions okay roll call please East Jenkins hi Shen hi sionic hi wind hi Benzel hi right moving on to new business so we have the amended um Board of Education um meeting dates for 2024 so we added work sessions in the months of O August sorry September October and November um but not December because of the holiday correct okay is there a motion so moved second questions or comments yeah I think if unless I missed

018something it looks like our regular meetings will all be held at a school location correct that's what we've done in the past okay and the but the one I me I noticed here was the December 16th because schools is that because school the school out on December 16th sometimes yes sometimes no so I think typically the December meeting has been here yeah I believe we're still in session at that point but yeah but it's kind of Hit or Miss yeah so that's been our past practice we could always move it if we need to moving the location is easier than changing the date all right anything else roll call please East Jenkins hi Sheen hi codon hi wind hi Benzel I right so we'd like to recommend that the Board of Education pass um or

019approve the new um fall athletic ticket prices and passes so these are some of the changes um that we've made have been outlined in the agenda um and reflect this the discussion that was had at the work session is there a motion so moved uh second questions or comments I was curious we we left um our dis we had a great discussion at our last meeting um but we left with a little bit of uncertainty about what would end up being recommended and I wondered if there's been any discussion since that last board meeting that you could update us on yeah uh me and Dr gold talked last week and um just kind of going over some of the stuff that was discussed at the last meeting and we were doing things I was probably

020not was be easiest with the state just coming down mandating that our online prices will be is the same as our cash prices and just for how conven convenient cash can be for the cash well ticket takers so so it could be exact change or even change so it's not going to be like $2 here two $3 there so it's either going to be a 10 or a five um to give change back so that's why we just decided to increase the prices uh to 10 for adults and five for um non-resident senior citizens and students um and then we also included uh our seniors still for free free senior CI resident senior citizens for free and Military Who present an ID um so we thought those were all great discussions and um and then

021Ken and the athletic department also worked on a uh updated draft of some of the things that would make it easier for their staff as well so the administration not Administration all staff members get um if they' show their badge you get them for free and we remove that additional ticket as well so they were able to bring someone for free that is no longer they would have to pay um a ticket price so trying to do being fiscally responsible but also giving to those who deserve it I do have a question just on pricing you know just because I don't I don't know we did receive an email um you know from a a Community member parent of students um you know that student athletes that are just questioning the pricing of our um

022all sports passes and I just wanted to I guess maybe out exactly how that total does that match like surrounding districts is it similar you know or you know what that I don't know offhand um but that is something that um I know one and I was talking to Ken if that's something we want to relook at that's something we could do as well I want to suggest some changes on that what's the process to do that just talk about it now yep we have a discussion about it now okay so um I understand the issue of making it easy for the ticket people but I think we have an opportunity for some good PR here um every dollar counts you have families that are a husband wife possibly one two kids you start adding

023those up it gets to be pretty pricey so $2 here a dollar there could make a difference so I still contend that I would like to keep the pricing consistent with the Suburban League which was $8 for an adult uh $4 for a student and really allow the athletic department to put a full-court press on getting people to buy the multipass uh option so that they're not beleaguered with long lines and things like that and you're only talking about football and you're only talking about five dates you know as far as where they would have that issue I believe boys basketball maybe but that's probably it you know as far as where you would have potentially long lines in making change and with that I did a little math and I may be off but

024they can check I looked at taking that 10 scan adult pass down to 72 which doing the math that's getting nine events um getting 10 scans for nine events taking the student one from 40 to 32 now they put in eight I'll go with that so they were going to give eight events for the price or 10 events for the price of eight which would be $32 and adjusting the five and the five scan for the adult and student 32 for the adult five scan 16 for the student five scan which is that you get five events for the price of yeah for the price of four so it's consistent on both of those um so that was my my suggestion on the price keeping it consistent a little PR granted it may be a

025burden but I'm you're talking five dates out of all the athletic events that we have at the school um the senior pass uh will there be some explanation as to how and where they would receive this pass so again on the advertising of this that would be worthwhile so again they have the opportunity to to advertise and promote what we're doing and then again I would like like to see and make sure that the terms and conditions uh for HomeTown tickets is very visible because I'm very concerned about data being sold and um you know I would think anyone who's using their credit card should be concerned about data being sold when they're giving out their credit card information so that that is very prevalent and and um very easy to find so that people

026can feel comfortable yes if that's Hometown tickets philosophy or or or process we don't sell it that should be very clearly stated um on that I'm definitely going to go ahead and disagree with you on the 10 and five just because it's not about it's not about the money it's about the cash being handled and the people that are in charge of making change and I think that there's just a lot higher from what we've heard there's a lot higher risk of of Fraud and a lot higher risk of of money you know missing if if there's all the the change being made all the time and I just think that keeping it consistent would be certainly in my um my opinion but at the same time I still think it's worth looking at how

027many scans get you in on a or reducing the price of the of the scan yeah and the other thing I forgot to mention we are no longer going to charge for huddle um and the thing some of the reasons we kind of did bump it up is uh the officials really get to pick the price that we pay and that's at we're at their mercy so our cost just keep going up and you know we athletic now that we're not really charging a pay to participate fee um you know we're just the journal fund has to subsidize that every single year now um so just something that we're trying to do to we're not going to bring in that much more money um but it's just going to help trying to be more fiscally

028responsible for um the district so but those were some of the other reasons I forgot to mention in this but um I I think taking a look at those scan passes is also to make it more consistent was a good idea well I understand understand that but uh I'm this was also again I'm looking from the pr standpoint uh you're going to have parents going to other schools and they're going to see okay we're getting charged eight why are we getting charged 10 at Stow sto's trying to rip us off rather than you coming back and saying maybe they're not saying anything they're saying hey this is neat we're consistent because I've been to other schools and they were charging eight or a visitor pass cash and maybe the pr is that we're more fiscally

029responsible with our decision making and Athletics well if you want to sell that fine I think I think saving money is going to be a better selling point I trust the work that the athletic department did because I know they were trying to balance a lot of different needs and I appreciate that they added something to put into respect veterans so I accept their recommendations can we yeah any other comments we just have to vote on it as is or can we you know pause on a certain part of it and yeah we'll vote as is and then um we'll make changes to um what we would want to make changes to so so we can revise it at a dater later date yeah okay okay what does that mean and when would that happen

030uh we would make the changes and put it on the next board uh meeting now are we talking about just the ones I suggested or a random opportunity of no it would be um I think in consensus it would just be the changes of the passes and what were those the multi scan passes I think I'd just like to take a look at what surrounding districts do too just to make sure I probably should have done that ahead of tonight but I didn't tonight so you know that's on me for not but you know looking at the the late email that we got it just kind of flagged it for me and it's just something that I'd like to research a little bit more so we can bring it back for the work session we

031can table this if we want or do we need to vote well I know they were going to start publish right publish publicizing we're all having a hard time with words yes um sooner than later so okay so I think as is it it would be it's not like we were going to we'd come back and vote to raise prices next no it it would only be you know reducing and so it's not like we're the only the only thing that we might have to uh say effective you know this state um these are the prices um just because giving refunds might be a little chaotic in Hometown ticketing um or we just don't offer multiscan passes until we um bring this back what about the issue I I'm looking at eight and four instead

032of 10 and five cash yeah that's um just when I was saying like the consensus seems to be just from the discussion that we would keep uh 10 and five right and so we know that Suburban Ling only charges eight and four we're choosing to charge more that's correct and that's just for the cash price correct no that's for both on both they to be they have to be the same well yeah sorry yeah sorry as soon as it came out of my mouth I knew that I like the idea of um the multiscan pass is kind of not publicizing that until we kind of take that other look and um kind of finalize that because I wouldn't want to penalize anybody for getting it early who didn't know that we were kind of thinking

033about making those prices more consistent um so yeah that's where I'm at further comments or questions okay roll call please East Jenkins abstain Shen okay what am I what am I voting on here so we're going to keep the pricing the same well the cash in ticket 10 for adults five for students and we're going to hold off on the multi scans until we can come back with updated pricing for um a vote so we don't have any there's no outside of me what having to make a motion as far as trying to emphasize my no because that would be outside of your role of you know you would be like we would bring be bringing you the recommendation for the prices um well yeah I'm going to say no because I don't like what's

034on here zonic I wend I Benzel I okay before we move on to our final round of comments I just want to acknowledge that this is Christy Pro's last meeting as our interim superintendent and thank you very very much you've as you always do you take a job and do better than you were even expected to do and you've left the district better than you found it and I appreciate you very very much so at this point we will move to our other round of public comments at this time we welcome any additional comments and concerns citizens wish to bring before the Board of Education all comments must be directed to the entire board and be no longer than 3 minutes we will listen to and consider your remarks but there will be no conversation

035aside from clarifying questions if you are seeking a direct response or further information we ask that you submit your request and writing please begin your remarks with your first and last name and we ask that if you are making comments that you have the mic microphone because without the microphone people who are watching the live stream can't hear your comments so I can even ask go ahead sit down we can bring the microphone to you but well I'm not on camera so I want them people to see what I have to say thank you Jerry Beto um I've come before the board because I'm questioning some actions taken by certain members of this board uh some years ago we dealt with the black lives movement then it quiet it down and we evolved to deic

036CT movement which the general public has never gotten any response as to what's going on with it or what you're doing with it except that we had a double dipping of the curriculum director working at ESC collecting over $110,000 when I presented that nobody looked into it nobody got back to me my other concern is we have a sitting board member who has pictur on Facebook with a Stow Cilan who arranged the Fourth of July parade with the drag queens now since we've had black lives movement CRT are we going to have the drag queens in school now teaching our kids you know reading them story books and playing with them and everything else or is that your agenda I am sick and tired of the crap that this board is doing and the city

037council is putting up with and you as a board member should be ashamed I stand by supporting diversity and so thank you would you like to repeat that I didn't I said I stand by supporting diversity in the city of Stow that's not diversity when you put dry Queen in the care of children uh my name is Marty Simkins and I'm calling I'm asking about the phase 2 program of the Fieldhouse I've been looking all over the paperwork and minutes agendas and I have seen nothing that applies to this Phase 2 program as to the where the building's going what it's going to look like and where the money is coming from to pay for it and I think I would like to see that also and again I'm going to reiterate that with the

038new bond issue going on for 238 million I think that it is only fair that the building descriptions sizes and the information be published where everybody in the city of sto can see exactly what you want to build and we have a timeline when they're going to start and when they're going to finish and how long we're going to be under construction thank you very much um my daughter's an incoming ninth grade cheerleader and Melanie Merritt my daughter's an incoming ninth grade cheerleader and um when I attended the parent meeting in March and met with the coaches sha Shayla Kelly and anet I was looking forward to my daughter being coached by them and um then someone else was hired as the head coach and now as I understand it we're looking to replace antonet

039East Jenkins as a coach as well even though she's a volunteer and she stepped up when the previous coaches quit without notice and she's made it clear that because of the commitment she's made to these girls she's willing to volunte as a coach and so I don't see the need to to replace her or understand why we are replacing her thank you hi I'm Dave bomgardner I'm a 69e citizen of Stow 72 grad I find it comical and ineffective that you don't answer questions at the meetings you want them in writing well Nancy you never respond very seldom I've submitted these questions two times to the website to the facilities planning question tool set on there I sent them directly to you Nancy in an email eight questions when can we see the drawings or

040mock pictures of the building plan number two is a $9 million Stadium for the Middle School in the plan number three is a three and a half million can you go slower so I can write them down sure is that okay because it's the first time hearing long as you'll do something with them to make sure I'm hearing everything thank you okay number three you want me to repeat any of those number one when can we see the drawing and mock pictures of the building plans two is a $9 million Middle School stadium in the Plan Three is a $ three half million Performing Art Center in the plan four what are the upgrades to the high school that need to be completed five what is the amount of the dollars going to improvements for

041the high school and will any of this money for the improvements go towards the Fieldhouse phase two which is calling for tripling in size number six tell me exactly why kton Lake View Indian Trails and Echo Hills buildings need to be demolished seven is approximate 25% that the state contributes or matches included in the 30 238 million or is that on top of the 238 million if it's on top of it will that money be returned to us as taxpayers last question can I expect answers this time because I've submitted them in the past and no one answers them I'll give you another example last February when I attended a meeting the treasurer talked about a $1,000 donation in February from a baseball parent during tryouts that's unacceptable and just totally unethical in a high

042school sports program taking donations from a trying out player's parents I've coached all levels and that's totally unprofessional and I agree with Jerry on the pose for the parade from a board member very inappropriate my name is Lydia Rosario and I am a recent graduate of stowman rof Falls High School um I was a cheerleader and also a lacrosse player and I am here for the cheerleading business and I just want to say that I had shayen and swanette as coaches for two years of my high school experience and for the girls who are going to be seniors this year um I think that they are going to need them very much and I think that it is kind of ridiculous coming from someone who knows the both them and how important they are to

043the program it's I I don't know I have to say something so I just wanted to say that they are more more important than you could ever know to the program program and of course I was beyond disappointed when I found out about the entire coaching situation in general about anset trying to get replaced and chayla being bumped down um but I think that situation was enough and I think that should be the end of it and that ANS it should be here to stay thank you I have one thing I left out the comment about the donation from the baseball player I sent an email to Feldman he never responded wants okay that's another example of questions y all want but you all never answer any other comments okay is it too late for

044me to go back and add a question or a comment about a previous um we voting on I just forgot to say something that when I forgot to ask a question IED to do that we've already voted so it's not going to change my vot or anything I just would had a question about it yeah um I just was about the supplemental coach and you had mentioned that um that that's part of the um contract but as I understand it it's not even someone it's not a teacher or a or it's not a person that's employed by the district and I thought that the contract was related to making sure that those positions were filled by people that were employed by the district and that's why that we had if that was the part that

045was connected to the contract and if we had to go outside that it it has nothing would it would seem to me that have nothing to do with the contract anymore yeah so I think we're going to talk about that in executive session so I want to be careful of employment law a little bit and and having this conversation so I think that that would be better for us to have that discussion during that time okay at this ex we do at this point uh we will move into executive session for the purpose of discussing the employment of public employees is there a motion to move into executive session an I have some just general I thought I was be able to say it at a journ hold on we're we'll do that before well

046that's well we don't have a motion for executive session so go ahead um it just a a couple of things because it didn't fit anywhere and I'm getting a lot of people asking me these questions so I thought this would be a good time to try to get answers uh there was a mention by this gentleman here I think by that young lady over there as far as getting responses from um public records requests so um Patrick I want to ask you um what is your process when you get a public records request so when we receive public records requests um they get sent off to legal and they look over them and they ask me questions or they give me guidance on what I need to ask technology Andor uh pool reports that we

047currently have and then once I get send those off to Legal uh legal will draft up a response and I will respond I will send the response to those parties and I'm just asking this because I've get asked this um do you pick and choose do you jump over a request um is there a log like that we could see as board members like when when risk requests come in and what they are what what's legal what's not legal you don't have to create a log I print off all the uh the requests so I can keep myself uh in order with them and once as soon as I get them I send them off to legal and at that time legal will um try to gather the information and once we have the information

048we can gather some take longer to acquire the information so if we're able to answer some while we are waiting on others then we will do that okay and that kind of brings me to the next topic that I'm asked a lot about sunshine laws um we I currently got one from you uh recently and I will say none it was no or you know to answer your question to that but um it's it's very easily to delete texts and emails what is the recourse that a person would have in the community um when they might get a response that there was no you know no email no text no no thread in regards to that I mean you could sit here and I can pull this on go you know go crazy oh I'm

049getting this I'm getting this request I'm GNA go in and yes so emails um if they were sent from our school email addresses we can GA we can gather those emails as well um but one deleting messages that just comes in ethics personal ethics um in profession so it is in ethics yes now what about which I I've now had that conversation that this is mine but everything on here is is is can can be asked for so I'm not I I can be doing texts not on my school email I can still again see what you just sent me and sit here and go boop boop Bo Boop Bo how do I know that that's not happening that I did that right well in the end no one's going to know unless your phone

050records were to be subpoenaed in some type of so it's pretty tough yes so it could be pretty easy if somebody's getting called out that they just sit here and just delete everything and and and we'd have to really go through a lot of steps to get that records pulled correct all right um all right so I guess Integrity is the is the key because I I I hear the word um piggyback and I just want to get a clarification on that if I talk to One board member about a subject subject a I can't go talk to another board member about that same subject a correct correct because that's piggyback even though I only talk to one I really talk to two me being three and that's illegal yes all right so I'm understanding

051that correctly yep and each um whether it's in person text email smoke signals yeah and then each each year it's recommended by the auditor state that everybody like myself and the board um take do the sunshine laws every every single year just to keep it fresh because they there's a lot of them um and the book is plethora pages long so it's always a good course to take and it's free all right so yeah like I said I'm glad I re-record this because the public asked me these questions um because I'm I'll get a response from people that uh going back to just the public request that there's a lot they'll get it back and then they're tell me I don't believe this you know and and I you know what can I do you

052know I mean there is no unless we go through a very in-depth request by a judge of being able to do that so it's really our integrity as far as not piggybacking and not deleting texts when they're requested yes am I understand that right okay um on the curriculum level and and Christy we had that little conversation before and I still want to sit down and talk to you but again because of the Public's asking questions I I want to just kind to share a couple of just general words of curriculum that's out there and if you don't know I I understand that I didn't send this over to you today which you know I always try to do that so that you kind of get a heads up but I'm going to kind of

053just throw some words out there and if you know yes no or don't um I'd appreciate that is there anywhere in our curriculum where the uh where where we're using the whole child uh curriculum does that mean anything to you it does not no okay um there Ohio got the whole child framework I mean that's part of that but as far as being yeah okay um how about CSE comprehensive sex education is that in in any part involved in our curriculum CS so well we there are things that we have to comply with for by for by law around um health and sex education so we comply with all those do and again you don't we don't have to go into this now as far as um because here's my here's my biggest fear on

054this a lot of this is not a course it's a it's a methodology it's a it's a teaching method and that's what scares me to death yeah so the state generally for all those kinds of requirements they have an approved list of curriculum that you have to pick from so it's not we can't go out and choose whatever we want um the state gives us a list of of what meets the requirements that they have now do we use the word do we use terminology and evaluating our children tier one um yes because we are we um utilize mtss which is a multi-tiered system of supports so for example tier one of our curriculum is the what is delivered to all the students in the general education classroom and do we find the term Community

055stakeholders involved in any of our messaging that we're sending out there uh yeah we use Community stakeholders and okay um I did mention last time you know my concern with SE and castle and parents that are on video I strongly encourage you to research that um I strongly encourage you to research whole child um it's something I think you need to be aware of and I strongly encourage you to research csse um and then you know kind of the topper and what Miss Beto mentioned is and I looked today just out of curiosity this whole Dei I think that needs to be Revisited uh we're looking at action on that 19 uh 2021 so um again I think that needs to be Revisited at some point as far as its value and the positivity that

056is it really bringing to our students um and Patrick the last question I have the finance committee is there any finance committee update as far as that no and will there be uh uh will we be a aware of that and will will we be able to recommend people that we would think would be of value to that committee yeah um Mrs golden I will still we once she's more uh in a day today U okay position we will talk about how we see fit of the finance committee I think having some strong um adults who have accounting uh CPA you know numbers background corporate uh folks that ran you know corporations would be a a another really advantageous pair of eyes that we'd want to have on that committee and um and Nance we

057had talked earlier do we talk about those or is that it shouldn't be an executive session as far as the my two the two things that we talked about as far as that weren't on the agenda that I had questions on yeah I don't have anything further since then so we will invite the other person the other company to come in and do a presentation similar to what we had call A doct Plus do um and then as far as the bus issues that's something I'll talk to you about to find out similar to when you wanted to talk about athletic pricing I called you and got more clarification on what it was because I did sit down with those folks that we wanted to have that do that but that is definitely more of

058a work session kind of gotcha and and I guess and maybe I said this when I asked it previously that it was my understanding that that mental health thing was something that was moving forward and then it just disappeared who makes that decision we do but by another provider coming in okay as we we had a pre- agenda meeting as we were talking about that did we want to vote on that contract Christy was aware that that person had reached out to her and talk to her and that at that point let's set that aside so that we have the opportunity to bring another provider in and do a fair comparison and see if you know because I was kind of watching the agenda to see if it would pop up and then it wasn't

059on there at all and I said well who makes this decision and I mean all right I'll fall on the sword I should have seen it and called you it's like the chicken or the egg it's not that it's that with another one another provider coming in the the really the responsible thing to do is to consider the other provider so there was never a conversation with the provider on moving forward no that's the provider yeah uh with the first provider that part I'm not sure about so there was we wanted to keep the same process that we had done with the second provider with the first one so we have a committee that um did a presentation that saw the presentation so it includes our school counselors we have some community members um we

060have some board member participation on that so we want to give equal chance for this other provider to do that presentation for that committee actually before we come to board but after we talked to him there was not a conversation with him this looks like it's going to work or we're waiting for cont I have that conversation or anything like that we're sure okay correct yeah my my my my feedback has been that um he's looking for Grants and that we don't have money in our budget to pay for it without I me the next step would be for them to present to us a formal written proposal which we have not received so so I guess going forward I have to assume that I'm asking as many questions as I can beforehand rather than

061wait till I come here it depends what it's a better way to get information beforehand okay but it's okay to ask them here so I don't want to put the kabash on that because I I we have heard from the community there is value in that um but sometimes we can have a better conversation in in more in-depth outside of this so either way and I know sometimes when I've had concerns um similar to what we ended up doing with of having folks come in and talk about ticket pricing um sometimes when I've had a concern or a question it's been asked and we'll have a presentation on it and then we can all have that discussion during the meeting as well and talk about those questions um I found it really beneficial to to

062have those presentations at certain points by the the folks in in our system who are the experts on whatever topic happens to be of concern right I I guess my other aspect with calling is getting into the Sunshine Law aspect of it so if I call you and ask you a question about a particular topic and one of the other board members calls you and asks you about that same topic where does that put you so as I understand it and we can talk about this with our attorney it's okay for me to have conversations with every board member as long as I'm not saying well Mike said this and Carrie said this and Pamela said this because that is in effect I'm conducting a meeting by sitting in the middle but if you and

063I have a conversation and we exchange ideas between the two of us great and then Dr W and I talk and we exchange con information between the two of us that's fine um but I'm not sharing with her anything you've said and at this point she's also talked to Mrs Su adonic she is not sharing with me well Carrie said this so it that's okay because we we're trying to do some of our background research and get up to speed and understand each other's concerns but we're not conducting a meeting so I think there are are proper ways to do that and there is effective there are good reasons to do it and there are ways to do it because I'm just being very cautious I don't want to have a meeting outside of the

064meeting correct I mean it's supposed to be discussed here and might be helpful we had a full um presentation or a full um s session with our attorney about Sunshine Law before the two of you were on the board and I think that it might be and that probably will be part of our board retreat in August so right I was hoping it that we could cover that with our new board members included um to make sure that we're all up to speed and as as Patrick was saying um it doesn't hurt for the those of us who have already done it to renew that information because I know when we did it again there were still things that just hadn't occurred to me you know even having gone through it already going through it

065again two years and was really helpful so and this is just a general thing and I it said next meeting August 19th is it August 5th or just on there I don't know if that a clerical or our next regular meeting is Monday August 19th at kton so the 5th is a work session correct yeah so we couldn't have put that on the agenda prior to voting to change the meeting dates what's the name the other company that we're inviting in just know her first name is Nancy I don't remember her company name okay do you remember I can find it but I don't know what it is off the top of my head I just know that we want each of them to go through the same process with us seriously if we like

066the idea of that kind of service then let's look at what our options are and make a good decision so no I said I just caught me like okay we talk about it it's not here what do I do what's my path am I do I have to fight for this do I have to argue for it you know I mean that's what I'm yeah you know I mean if I have something I want on the agenda why can't it be on the agenda you know and that kind of stuff so that's that's all yeah no I'm sorry and I just made an assumption I would talk to you about it tonight so no worries all right is there clarify one of my comments I'd like to thank Patrick and christien because they're always responsive

067on request okay is there a motion to move move into executive session so moved second questions or comments roll call please sorry there's a wrong name on that one it's oh I'm sorry let me say it more formally the to move into executive session for the purpose of discussing the employment of public employees in what time well we haven't voted yet um East Jenkins hi Shen I sud donic I wind I bsel I we are in executive session at 6:59 p.m. there will be no action taken following the executive session

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