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Capo USD Regular Board Meeting 5-18-2022

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YouTube / Capistrano USD Board Meeting
Date
2022-05-19
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Orange County, CA
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34,285 words · about 191 min
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2026-05-19

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001president mcnicholas livestream is now in progress you may turn on your mic and open the meeting good afternoon and welcome to the may 18 2022 regular board meeting at the campus town unified school district the meeting is now in session time is 406 pm for cdph and college guidelines the use of masks is strongly recommended but not required when indoors at the district office members of the public may attend this meeting in person or participate by phone a registration link has been posted on the board meeting agenda page at our website for those who plan to call in to address the board meeting this evening mrs hayes please call the world trustee volakis here trustee castianos is absent trustee davis trustee hannicek here rusty jones here steven nicholas here this is before the board recess

002is a closed session is there anyone who would like to speak to a closed session agenda item there are none thank you the board will now recess to close session to address the following agenda items a public health emergency consultation with agency council b conference with legal counsel anticipated litigation significant exposure to litigation five cases c conference with legal counsel existing litigation significant exposure to litigation three cases and one case d conference with labor negotiators c-u-e-a-c-s-e-a teamsters kuma and unrepresented employees e conference real with real property negotiators property pacifica san juan property self transportation and groundskeeping facility property the cena paseo de colinas property f liability claims significant exposure to litigation two cases g expulsions two cases h public employee discipline dismissal release one case and principles multiple sites i public employee employment appointment principal

003middle school principal adult transition program bridges community day high school j public employment and evaluation performance superintendent the board will now resist post session is president mcnicholas live stream is now in progress you may turn on your mic and open the meeting good evening and welcome to the may 18 2022 regular board meeting of the capistran unified school district the meeting is now in session the time is 707 pm for cdph and cal osha guidelines the use of masks is strongly recommended but not required when indoors at the district office please note that we have spanish interpreters attending this evening's board meeting and they are available to anyone in the back of the room members of the public may attend this meeting in person or participate by phone a registration link has been posted on

004the meeting agenda page of our website for those who plan to call in to address the board this evening oral communications which comes early in the agenda is an opportunity for the public to comment on is used not on tonight's agenda by board policy the total time allotted for all communications is 20 minutes with a maximum of three minutes per speaker but the per speaker time may be less if there's a large number of speakers under california law board members cannot respond to non-agenda oral comments as a reminder we ask you as the audience not to engage with miss miss pattia our student advisor please allow her time and space to speak unhindered and afford her the time and same respect that we offer to all student speakers who attend board meetings please note if

005there are any students registered to speak this evening on any agenda item we will hear them first before any adult speaker please note agenda item 1382 public hearing resolution number two one two two day six three approving an increase in statutory school fees imposed on new residential and commercial industrial construction pursuant to educate 17620 and government code 65995 has a typo the supporting documentation state that is located in exhibit 14a10 please note that agenda item 5813 excuse me 15 a13 resolution 2122.65 resolution resolution and order of biennial trustee election specifications of the election order has a typo and should state this is a biennial item not a new item as a reminder for per board policy 9323 meeting conduct requests to address the board of trustees will be accepted only until 30 minutes after the

006start of open session please note as board president i am proposing to add a special meeting on may 25th and june 1st 2022 staff has added an item to the consent calendar to agenda a revised board meeting scheduled for 2021-2022 mrs hayes will you please call the role student advisor patia here trustee bulacas here trustee castillanos here krusty davis here trustee hanicek here trustee jones here trustee mcnicholas here um i'd like to have the pledge allegiance led by principal cindy steiner i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all you may i have a motion to adopt the agenda so moved second moved by trustee davis second by trustee hanicek i roll [Music]

007davis aye christie hanicek aye ms t jones aye steve mcnicholas aye motion carry 6-0 by roll call vote to adopt the agenda with the preferential vote of eye but i'm student advisor fabian mrs hayes please read the report out of post session on agenda item 3a public health emergency no reportable action on agenda item 3b conference with legal counsel anticipated litigation trustees voted 6-0 to approve staff recommendation on the following adr cases case number two 2022-0124-2022-0 two zero two two zero two two zero three one seven two zero two two zero four one nine two zero two two zero four two zero on agenda item three c conference with legal counsel existing medication trustees voted 6-0 to approve staff recommendation on the following oah cases case number is zero 2021-1203-73-20220108 zero nine and case number

008two zero two two zero two zero six seven four on agenda item c4 trustees voted five zero one to approve staff recommendation on agenda item d1 no reportable action on agenda items d2 and d3 trustees gave direction to staff on agenda item 3e conference with real property negotiators no reportable action on agenda item 3f liability claims trustees voted 6-0 to approve staff recommendations on the rejection of government claim numbers 2109 196 and number two one zero nine two five zero on agenda item three g student expulsions trustees voted six zero to approve staff recommendations on case number two zero two 2022014 and case number 2022015 on agenda item 3h public employee discipline dismissal release on agenda item h1 trustees voted 6-0 to approve staff recommendation on agenda item h2 trustees gave direction to staff on

009agenda item 3i public employee employment appointment on agenda item i-1 trustees voted 6-0 to appoint josh willison principal short close middle school if effective july 1 2022 for the 2022-2023 school year on agenda item i-2 trustees voted 6-0 to appoint lucy coppola principal transition programs effective july 1 20 for the 2022-2023 school year on agenda item 3j public employment and evaluation of performance trustees gave direction to staff this concludes my report thank you i'd like to recognize ryan burris chief communication and public engagement officer to present tonight's extra milers and i will introduce jimmy canotel our communications specialist to introduce tonight's extra milers thank you very much we have two groups to recognize tonight our first is the orange county gang reduction and intervention partnership program or grip program we'd like to recognize tracy miller

010who is the former senior assistant of the orange county district attorney and creator of the grip program who's been working with the district for 10 years so if we can invite tracy and mike beekman up to receive your award trustees i just want to say a few words i've known tracy for quite a long time about 12 years now it's been you came down and she started to work a work a program that would help kids who are at risk and we came up with the name grip which basically she had already in mind uh we were tossing around a bunch of names but she already knew what she wanted to call it and that's kind of the way things went with tracy she she pretty knows what she wants she just wants to be

011collaborative and get everybody on the same page um so basically uh we kind of built the program uh as we were doing it and principals came together and they identified problems and we came up with solutions we came up with incentive programs we had a turkey incentive program uh we had the angels incentive program uh and it was a great opportunity for kids to be able to network with law enforcement in a positive way and over the years the program just grew and grew and we started it in san juan capistrano we opened another program in san clemente uh when we took the kids to the angels for the angels incentive i think we only had a couple hundred kids coming up first and at this point we're maybe 2 300 kids going to the

012angels game uh so it's been a real positive thing um i probably should have data but we had basically an increase in academics decrease in truancies and a decrease in disciplinary action so uh it's been a real partnership because we have a lot of entities involved we have the district attorney's office we have the sheriff's department we have community-based partners and of course we have our great principals and schools that are supporting us and the families that come in and support their children as well so it's a team effort but i have to give kudos to tracy because she's the team leader so thank you very much i'd like to say it's the kids that motivated me but it's not um although when i look in a child's eyes and you give them you tell

013them you're gonna hold them accountable their face goes like this but if you tell them i have hope for you in your future even the toughest gang member will cry but that's not what motivated me what motivated me is the adults people like mike beekman who in 2007 for all these years said no matter what no matter what budgets no matter what politic problems we have i'm going to stick with you because i believe in keeping our kids safe it's people like superintendent vittel who she must have thought i was a crazy lady because she had only been here 24 hours and i called her and said you have to meet with me i have to tell you about this program and from that meeting she said yes yes yes let's expand it let's do

014better let's grow let's do better it's people like jeff jones principal jones in the audience and peggy beres is in the audience and all the amazing principles you have here that give their own money and time to the kids it's people i see a sheriff's deputy in the back of the room like sandra hutchins who helped started who passed away last year who told me that only reason we live is to have purpose and help make people better it's people like the sheriff's deputy so i saw one sheriff's deputy give a hundred dollars to a parent so she could feed her kids that way because she was a single mom right here in this room it's people like pimco and ford and angels and fortune 500 companies and small little businesses and the thing is

015i learned by being part of capistrano unified is that it doesn't matter what our politics are it doesn't matter our generational diversity it doesn't matter where we stand on so many issues people want to belong to something bigger than themselves people want to belong together and be part of a purpose and this district has been my purpose for so many years so thank you very much it's an honor thank you uh tracy i remember you telling stories about you going knocking on doors of houses to find where kids why kids weren't coming to school we did that a lot a lot and they all they all got here eventually well when somebody like you comes and knocks on the door and says what can we do to come to school it kind of works thank

016you thank you very much thank you thank you have everybody in let's smush together a little more yeah [Music] one two three thank you thank you thank you so much our second group tonight this year the district middle schools began using iready which is an online learning program for diagnostic assessment and personal instruction during the mid-year review this year the i ready team shared data that many district middle school students had already passed their year-end growth goals by the middle of the year tonight we want to recognize the district middle school principals who are here representing their teachers teacher leaders support staff for their tremendous academic growth achievements opportunities jen smalley our assistant superintendent for secondary education who can speak more to this i ready growth good evening i am so excited to share with

017you that capistrano unified is a national outline outlier in math with iready and we said are you sure tyree are you sure and this is the work of our math teachers and our principals so i'm excited to share with you two quick slides this was our middle of the year data for all of our middle school students the goal is to get to the dotted line you'll see that all three grade levels in capistrano not only got to the dotted line but a little bit above in sixth grade and in seventh and eighth grade they're almost at where they should be at the end of the year they were there in the middle of the year fantastic data and then on the next slide we extrapolated our english language learners our sixth graders didn't quite

018meet where we wanted them to go but they over doubled their growth in just that first semester and then again our seventh and eighth graders exceeded the growth especially our seventh grade english language learners we're so incredibly proud of our students and the hard work of our math and math teachers and our principals [Music] we have several of our middle school principals here tonight so as i call up your name or call your name please come up here and join us george duarte lisa viejo joe mcgann arroyo vissa [Applause] nick stever bernice heir dana aguero carl hanky [Applause] amy barrichio don juan [Applause] cindy steiner wadera ranch michael kim los flores [Applause] katherine thompson marco forester [Applause] murphy fred newhart jeff jones miguel hills miss davis shorkliffs [Applause] michelle benham visited del mar jolene doherty

019california prep academy [Applause] in addition we would like to recognize suzanne bartow who is a professional professional development specialist for i ready and also some district staff jen smalley assistant superintendent for secondary education [Applause] mega vice executive director 6-12 [Applause] and karen gauthier stem coordinator for k-12 [Applause] come around the front guys that way yeah we'll line up in the front there [Music] okay one two three thank you [Applause] and that concludes our special our special recognitions thank you um at this time i'd like to recognize christian battal bruti to present superintendent opening comments followed by trustees great and i'm going to continue the celebration um welcome and good evening to our last board meeting of the 22-23 school year only 10 more school days left this year so tonight i want to share some

020celebrations marco forester middle school math teacher sergio sanobria was named orange county middle school teacher of the year [Applause] eliseo viejo middle school guidance tech sheri salado was named california classified employee of new york we are heading up to sacramento tomorrow to celebrate her and to celebrate her incredible work with our students viejo elementary counselor cleo victor was named ocd orange county school counselor of the year [Applause] ascension elementary teacher leslie whitaker was nominated for the presidential award for excellence in mathematics and science teaching andy waldo director of insta instrumental music at kappa valley high school's named san juan capistrano educator of the year [Applause] lisa middle school teacher jennifer adams was named a finalist for the parenting 22 top teachers and employees cuc as the district received the model school attendance review board award

021from the california department of education cusd was also named one of the best communities for music education by national association of music music merchants foundation bernice and marco forester middle schools received the california pivotal practice award this recognition is being awarded in place of the california distinguished school award this school year super exciting and the orange county department of education awarded lisa viejo livera ranch middle schools along with los flores elementary school with outstanding pal awards i want to congratulate teachers kailyn rodriguez amanda hatcher and kim belmont for their amazing work on peer assistance leadership programs that were honored this year [Applause] this is a long list but we celebrated our classified employees of the year last week and this week is classified school employees week so congratulations to laurie mccain josephine wahlberg edie foddich

022kristen shakian harado manharis mata ken o'toole jack sheed matthew martinez and brian persaul all are classified employees here in awardees in capistrano super exciting [Applause] yesterday i sent a letter to our classified employees from reminding them that they are the foundation of our district's success our classified staff is dedicated flexible and always working to meet every student need and keep families informed and engaged our classified staff has provided millions of meals taken countless temperatures conducted thousands of health screenings and cobia tests kept our students employees safe warm air-conditioned and dry transported students to and from school home and athletic events and field trips supported our one-to-one chromebook program and technology needs and kept our facilities looking their best so thank you thank you thank you for your incredible work during this classified employee appreciation you

023are greatly appreciated for everything you do i also want to thank our teachers classified staff and administrators specifically at wood canyon and at moulton elementary principal chris dambiac and principal jose luis pedraza for all their efforts to move school for molten students to wood canyon during the coastal fire last week late wednesday night ed services leadership along with all the district departments worked with mr dembiac mr pedraza to ensure that we could support students and families without any disruption to instructional time our teachers and classified staff were extraordinary doing whatever was necessary to ensure all of our students could share the campus for as long as necessary we have the option to cancel school but our belief has always been the best place for our students is here in the classroom the work of these

024two schools was recognized by a surprise visit friday afternoon by state superintendent of public instruction tony thurman who spent about an hour at wood canyon speaking to students teachers staff offering support to families and staff who are evacuated because of the fires i'm happy to share that on monday moulton elementary reopened and while we were deeply saddened by the loss of property due to fire we're very very thankful that there was not loss of life as i close i want to thank our capistran unified council ptsa for their partnership and support this year especially with our raise the base campaign to raise base funding for every student in california our state leaders and legislators are actively discussing this for the first time in years and while there is still work to do we made incredible

025progress getting over 200 superintendents and districts to join us in our efforts this is work we'll continue to do because the increase increase in funding would help every student or district and would continue the incredible investments we've made with state and federal cova dollars including ongoing class size reduction increased social emotional support with additional counselors credentialed physical education teachers in elementary schools and more time for teachers to collaborate and develop strategies to support all students by name by need these strategies are funded for the next couple of years and our hope is that we can extend that work finally i want to thank our trustees parents students teachers classified staff and administrators for an incredible year i'm deeply grateful that we get to work together to support 44 000 young people and i hope that

026all of you enjoy the end of the school year and a wonderful summer break before i end my report i just want to congratulate josh josh wellington our new principal at short cliffs josh is here tonight was here tonight so congratulations to josh lucy copeland and want to appreciate chris davis and excited to place him as a new principal and a new opportunity at the june 15 meeting and that concludes my report thank you um trustee bullockus yes first of all i want to say at the end of the school year it has been so wonderful and an absolute joy to be at the schools for all of the different award programs musical concerts pta festivals um the achievement awards uh today i was at newhart for their bike rodeo and um it's incredible uh

027to be there and seeing those smiling faces and to be a part of so many activities that are so much fun at the end of the school year and as we look forward to senior awards and graduations um i have two items that i would like to um oh wait and i have to give a shout out to titan sports um our boys volleyball team had a win in five at cif and both our boys volleyball and the girls softball have made it to cif finals and will be the baseball will be at cal state fullerton this weekend and softball in irvine so a big shout out to titans at tesoro um i have yet [Applause] two items i would like to bring before the request to bring before the board on the next agenda

028um while trustees view our elected positions as one of service to the students and the families in the spirit of volunteerism i feel it's fair to request reimbursement of expenditures on behalf of cosd to bring them to current cost of living rate president um trustee mcnicholas and i will be traveling friday morning and being at a conference up at csba this weekend in sacramento and when i looked over the travel expense um it was adopted in june 1998 uh 24 years ago so i think the price of being able to feed us while we're away um should be commensurate with the pricing of today being able to get meals so i would respectfully request the board policy 4133 travel expense be reviewed and brought back to the trustees in in june the other request that

029i have is i would like to bring before the board on the next agenda the discussion to stop covid testing for the unvaccinated i believe it is a cause for segregation and there is enough studies that have come out now that really it doesn't make a difference if you're vaccinated or unvaccinated in um being susceptible to copiod and so this ongoing testing for the unvaccinated uh it seems unfair so i would like to have that discussion brought forward [Applause] and as this is the last night of our student advisor um kenai i just want to wish you all the best and maybe she'll make the comment and share with you i'll leave that to her in terms of where she's going off to in college so congratulations peste cassianos um i just want to take

030a moment this week our community was devastated to hear the news of a local hero i wanted to take a moment to honor our friend dr john chen dr chen was a family and sports medicine doctor in elisa and one of his passions was working with students and our youth in our community he served as a team doctor at aliso miguel for many many years he loved watching our youth participate in sports and he always encouraged healthy and active individuals just last week you would have probably saw dr chen working tirelessly for our students a local clinic getting all of our athletes cleared to play athletics next year he was a caring and genuine man and a true hero dr chen will be always remembered our deepest condolences go out to his family and we're

031deeply saddened by this tremendous boss thank you thank you um trustee davis yes thank you have much to say that tonight's meeting so looking forward to next week and our two weeks graduation and completing this school year um i just was kind of looking over what's happened since our last board meeting we cut loose under the stars at san clemente high school's footloose performance under the direction of kiersten mccleary incredible passed the ball and served a few volleyballs at the sand volleyball courts at the ribbon cutting at tesoro high school which is pretty spectacular considering cif is now or um sand volleyball for girls is now a cif sport so that's pretty exciting read some stories at concordia and played a really couple of really intense games of handball with some great kids um attended

032the first generation graduates celebration at san juan hills high school the pal awards at aliso viejo teacher of the year awards and the moving on for sergio sambria at um marco forester it was so incredible to watch his students and be there for a good amount of time before presenting his award and had a chance to talk to some of the students and staff members about him so i'm really excited that he has moved on to represent us so thank you um transportation appreciation day i mean they start our day for our students and loved visiting with all of our bus drivers and how incredible our program is there and we are and needed some more bus drivers so if you know somebody please spread the word it's a great place to be the celebration

033for the teacher of the year at capitol valley um the award celebration at san juan hills high school last night where one student received five awards and just incredible to watch the families and the joy that was their classified award sterile celebration um concordia's open house the principal celebration and drive-through visited omar's open house um [Music] sorry i have so much um was able to tour the cte campuses um and i am overjoyed with what we're doing there and the opportunities that are ours within our district so i joined members so this one i wrote out i'm joined the members from the college and career advanced team to tour the innovative career and technical education labs across the district some of the highlights were the middle school cte labs that were located on every middle

034school in cusd we visited one in particular newhart middle school had an opportunity to have a couple of their students tour me around the room and share not at with no ask but they were able to tell me every part of what they did and their excitement and engagement for it was amazing we saw students working on cnc mills and lathes 3d printers animation software architecture programs making t-shirts embroidery projects and using robotic arms among the 18 different modules that are offered in the courses all i could say was wow every time i turned around it was wow wow wow we walked out of the room after talking with the students it really was impressive that these middle school students are able to try out so many different career options before high school before college

035next we turn towards citrus valley high school in the engineering lab the auto lab and the robotics lab where award-winning robot is showcased in the window and we were able to send a team to houston for world champions incredible students were working on animation and video game development in sports medicine they were working on a test related to wound treatments for sports related injuries did you know that we have adult courses offered on the upper campus dedicated to the cca training center these courses are in pharmacy tax surgical tech emt medical assisting dental assisting and they are free f-r-e-e for adults and most can be completed in a semester they all include an internship with local business partners and most students are hired by their intern site if not the teacher helps to place them

036for employment i spoke to the students were all really excited about their careers that await them and on that note i also would like to share my love and uh support for dr chen he was a huge partner for our program for the cte programs um so it's a huge lustrous family for our community and for our district at san juan hills high school we visited the building in industrial trade classrooms where students were busy building a tiny home students learn all aspects of the construction trades including electrical plumbing and welding the students were engaged and excited as they worked on separate aspects of building this tiny home cca is working with organizing in the organization in the community to donate these tiny homes to the homeless and they actually are completely building a tiny

037home right on there i'm getting kids climbing up and fixing the roof and adding and i mean it's just incredible incredible we also witnessed a mock crime scene investigation act asked taking place in forensic science where we're instructed not to walk through the crime scene or we could be suspects um i look forward we ran out of time and didn't get to get to my high school san clemente high school and i look forward to that tour and um and i've been there but i look forward to seeing it through those eyes as well and see the culinary arts auto and the engineering just to name a few these ce cte courses are offered on all of our high school and middle school campuses and provide top-notch opportunities for students to explore future college and

038career paths it just was incredible opportunity to see and be on campuses and see things that are happening in the day-to-day lives of our students i just want to commend our staff our district staff principals and teachers at both moulton and wood canyon for the excellent support of the students for the fires we rallied together and brought the two schools and put them on one campus and and they had a beautiful experience for a couple of days so i commend our staff and our teachers and principles that made that happen and my heart goes out to the families that are affected by these really by these fires and um yeah i'm extremely saddened to hear that sb 866 moved on which allows children at the age of 12 years and older to be vaccinated without

039parental knowledge and support as we saw in los angeles with giveaways and free pizzas and treats etc to entice children i am adamantly against this and i am for choice for families and i believe that when you're 12 years old you are very much still a child and should be under the direction of parents so moving forward i look forward to san clemente high school's senior and achievement awards tomorrow night and graduation coming up in two weeks and round off the end of this great school year thank you thank you lisa um trusty hannity no comments okay uh trustee jones yes very quickly um let's see um i went uh to not so many things as trustee davis but i wanted particularly to highlight the first generation graduation at san juan hills high school that

040um uh jennifer smalley started four years ago i've been to all four of them it is the best celebration well i shouldn't say it's the best they're all really good but it is so moving these young people who are changing the trajectory of their lives and the lives of their family families by getting an education and by planning to go on to college it is so so important this is certainly the country of freedom but it's also the country of education education is very important in the united states and has been since the country began and these young people have come to this country and are getting the education that their parents and their grandparents never had an opportunity to get and everyone's lives will be changed as a result it's it's a wonderful it's

041a wonderful program that they do i wish all of our schools did i also want to mention that uh if you read the new york times you might know we were mentioned in the new york times this today uh it's an article about declining enrollment which is a national issue it's not just here in cusd or in california but declining enrollment in schools in general but public schools specifically and it was mentioned that the mandatory covert vaccine bill has been put on hold partly due to concerns raised by districts likes usd that so that what the work we did on that has i think made a difference that got put on hold partly because of what we as a board and you members of the public did in contacting members of the legislature i was

042also going to mention dr john chang who in addition to all those other things he did he was he offered internships for our cca medical students and i would like to suggest that we adjourn tonight in his memory thanks thank you um i have i don't my list isn't quite as long as as trustee davis but i did have enjoyed the robotics demonstration from the robotics team that went down to the elementary school at george white and was at the hit of their uh family science night was the robot shooting beach balls out into the audience so and really enjoyed a night of the arts at miguel hills with both the music and art and you know it's just so good to get back on the campuses and the end of the year is so

043uplifting with all the teacher awards the employee awards the play recognitions as we go towards senior awards and eighth grade awards and graduation it's just what a wonderful way to end the end the school year i do want to say a couple things that are not school district related but are dear to my heart and that is coming up memorial day i am active in the um american legion auxiliary which if you see anybody wearing a red poppy i didn't wear my time at or in front of a store asking for donations those are for our veterans who have served and for those um still active so if you see um anybody out in front of a store selling a poppy or asking for donations those are for um our veterans and please recognize them

044on more on memorial day also and trustee bullockus and i are both involved in this um i am a three-time cancer survivor and we have lost several friends to cancer recently uh the south orange county american cancer society relay for life is on june 11th at the norman p murray center and i will be there with the team and judy will be there with the team and from one at 1pm to 9pm it's a great event we recognize remember those we've lost we celebrate those who are surviving and we promise to fight back against this horrible disease so those are my public service announcements not related to the school district tonight is can i patty's last board meeting with us can i current gpa is 4.5 she has participated in san clemente high school athletic

045water polo and swimming for all four years kanai has served as a co-task force leader by mobilizing students through community events workshops board meetings social media and civic engagement she creates change by creating more a more inclusive student culture that shows appreciation of diversity her passion for activism and proactive change in her community has been channeled into a role as lead for san clemente high school student against racism task force two of canai's passions are problem solving and math she has taken computer science courses currently in high concurrently in high school and in college where she has learned to use languages of abstractions to solve real word problems she is ready to take the next step to college to become an independent contributing member of society can i will be attending university of california at

046santa cruz in the fall and we wish her all the best of luck in her next chapter of her life and we understand you have a birthday coming up this weekend so happy birthday to you and thank you for being our student advisor [Applause] what do you think everyone i would just like to thank the board for this amazing year and this amazing opportunity that you gave me um i remember my first board meeting not too long ago where like i was just like very nervous very scared to be like sitting like amongst these amazing women and um but they really like showed me like how like all of this works and just like sitting here like every month and like listening to them it's just like really like sparked a like fire like within

047me to like do something like this like similar to this like like in the future and um it's just like really like been an inspiration and like you know like sitting with you guys and um like just seeing what you guys do and so um i've decided that like when in college i want to like do something like this and i want to be an advocate for students just like you guys are an advocate for parents and students so thank you so much and i'm very grateful for this thank you well i'm sure i speak for the rest of the board when we really appreciate your input sometimes you are the adult in the room when things get a little crazy so uh we really appreciate your your viewpoint and and your input thank you

048so much yeah trustee jones [Music] i don't think the other trustees know this but can i ask me to help her with her college essays so i got to read them and i learned so many interesting things about this young woman one of her essays was about how she was told at i forget what grade level that she really wasn't prepared for advanced classes and she shouldn't try them and instead of being insulted by that she took that as a challenge and decided she needed to change the way she approached her academics and her life in general and she did and as you hear she just graduated with a for is graduating from 4.5 and going to a uc that not everyone gets into um and i thought that it was such a i i

049was just bowled over by her essay uh i i the maturity that she showed i think you were in middle school when this happened right i mean i'm not that much mature even now um and it was just the inspiration to me and i i could see that we had very definitely chosen the right person to be our student advisor someone who was that self-reflective at that young age i was so very impressed thank you for being up here with us on to business um this is the point of oral communications these are for non-agenda items um [Music] mrs hayes it looks like we have three speakers we have three speakers online and we have six in-house in person and so if i reflect on our policy um between one and ten speakers each minute

050will be each person will be given two minutes to speak oh six between speakers between one and if we have between one and ten speakers we'll give each speaker two minutes to speak for board policy oh i'm sorry i misinterpreted i thought it was one to seven one to seven will be given three minutes we have nine total so that's between one and ten okay all right so it's two minutes and two minutes for our adopted policy okay and our policy says we go first two in person that is correct in person first and then okay thank you well mrs hayes i will let you manage the uh speakers okay i am going to call all six speakers who are here with us in the room talina marfrin santo adrian romero jennifer baker keith hancock

051jeff long and jean and please forgive me if i mispronounced your name uh for speaker please come forward good evening my name is mafrin santok and i am an elementary music teacher here in cusd thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak to you one of the amazing things about being an elementary music teacher at cusd is that we created the model for elementary music used by so many other districts over the last almost 40 years we have refined our program improved it and overcome every obstacle in order to ensure that the quality of our program does not diminish next year we are being thrown under the bus our tried and true program of almost four decades is being overhauled upon looking at the proposed schedule we know that it will be a huge

052disservice to students practical issues such as adequate time for teachers to travel between schools availability of rooms to teach in and offering students the choice of music classes are not being considered and why we were told that we are not efficient we are a staff of 27 full-time teachers servicing every student at all 35 elementary schools every child grades tk through 5 in cusd gets music all 19 700 of them with only 27 teachers and not only do they get music they get options fourth graders have a choice between general music and strings fifth graders have a choice between strings band and choir it sounds impossible that we can cover this many students and let them all take music classes of their choosing but that is how efficient we are i personally teach at seven

053elementary schools and see almost 800 4th and 5th grade students a week i've only had the pleasure of being in this district for eight years but several of my colleagues have been around almost since the block music program started anytime a problem has risen our staff has come together and worked it out we have worked it out so that the quality of the program does not have to be sacrificed but this time we are not being given that option we are having schedules written out for us that do not include ace time lunch breaks or adequate travel time between schools thank you very much go ahead and state your name andrea romero good evening president martha mcnicholas members of the board trustees superintendent at all school district representatives staff parents and guests i'm andrea romero

054and i'm an elementary music teacher here in capistrano unified i would like to speak on behalf of the entire elementary music staff except of course the ones behind me um i just came out of the music staff meeting today and we are very worried about the plans for next year as you just heard typically at this time of the year we have made adjustments for schedules and they're in the hands of schools for next year but today we found out that um our schools have been notified by the dis by the district that there will be changes to make our program better and that they would be solidified by june 2nd we were aware that changes are like in the making but we were not notified that they would happen by june they would be

055done by june 2nd um the last day of school is not the time to make drastic changes this began about a month ago we were informed that the district was considering making significant changes the program to make it more efficient to try and align music and pe and balance class sizes we were told the district wanted to make sure they didn't sit back and try not to improve things when we were told we were also told that one of our black music teachers would be retiring and her position would not be replaced and so a draft music schedule was created but not a single music teacher was invited to work on that schedule a few music teachers were called in to look at it but their concerns were not addressed or they were dismissed school

056bell schedules have not been consulted and logistics have not been considered music doesn't fit into this supposedly streamlined schedule and there's so many reasons why the schedule is exactly the way it is um we don't understand why these changes are being made and we don't understand if we're trying to save money excuse me it is essential that someone with specific knowledge of both music curriculum and scheduling represent our music teachers when creating schedules which potentially redefine our existing program i'll allow my colleague to continue jennifer baker hi i'm jennifer baker i'm a primary music teacher for capistrano up until yesterday the scheduled drafts that were being proposed were in a shared vappa drive which all of the music teachers could access today our access was removed recently changes to the music schedules were brought up

057in a district principals meeting and based on many personal conversations with principals by our staff the principal seemed not happy about the changes either so why exactly are the changes being made what are the underlying issues the district wants address and why are we not being asked to give input schedules are very complex and the music teachers are worried at the very least a representative of all six of our individual black music teams and a primary representative should be on the committee to point out some of the huge red flags for example as moffron said there's not enough travel time set up in the schedule there's not enough time for our contractual lunch there's inequity in teaching loads the drafts that we have been able to see show one team with all the large schools

058and no small schools this is an unreasonable workload and physically unrealistic in addition primary music would be distributed among the block music staff and primary teachers many schools would have several primary music teachers and some grade levels would also have more than one primary music teacher for each of the teachers in their school and in the current scenario primary music would change to one lesson every other week for 40 minutes which is not developmentally appropriate for this age level how are the four to seven-year-olds supposed to do that our cusd music students which are all of the kids in our school district have come through a very dark period during covid only just recently have things begun to get come back to normal we're excited to play we're excited to sing but we're really concerned

059it's also been proposed that teachers combine two music classes in the same room this is unacceptable we can do better so we want to bring these concerns to you and hope that we can find some solutions good evening everyone i'm just here representing secondary music certainly we've been awarded by just about every major music organization in the united states and should these proposed changes affect our elementary levels they would have no choice but to affect us at the secondary level um we um secondary teachers rely on you know the quality of our music education program uh from pre-k to five to make our programs as thriving and successful as they are certainly a reduction in the quality as these changes are being proposed would would dramatically affect uh the quality of the nine through or

060really the seven through twelve programs that have already been hit really hard because of covid and it's just been it's been a tough couple years and a further reduction in quality i'm starting at the earliest levels where it's so important to get a quality music education program for these students to have the you know as they were talking about the the the teachers that are able to service our entire district you know with a credentialed music standards-based music education that's high high quality um that's sets them up for success i mean we see at the secondary level we're preparing these kids to take on careers and do amazing things with with their music even if they're not going into music as a career they're still appreciating music and understanding music at a deeper level and

061it just makes such a an impact on their lives and the experiences they're having at the secondary level well if those those education experiences at the elementary level aren't being fostered in the appropriate ways we're not going to see that same kind of secondary level so my encouragement would be to kind of relook at this whole situation and figure out the the best opportunity for students to get the best possible music education that they can pre-k through 12. thank you jeff go ahead good evening trustees administration i'm jeff long i'm one of the block music teachers i teach fourth and fifth in san clemente and dana point uh i am here for the same reason as my colleagues uh but i'd like to come at a different perspective in december maker vase came to our

062staff meeting and told us that enrollment was down at the secondary level and how vital it was that we encourage our kids to take abandoned orchestra in sixth grade uh and then approached us with the idea of this district music festival which everyone was so complimentary of last board meeting which i thank you for that uh and then our first staff meeting after the board meeting we were told by our administrator christy mcnichols that we have to cut two hundred thousand dollars for the music budget to hire two hundred thousand dollars from the music budget we couldn't know why um came to find out from her that principals are saying they're not happy with their music schedules so we went to all our principals at all 35 sites to con to ask like what's the

063problem is there's something we can fix at a site level and every principal said we are not unhappy with our music we're very happy with our music we based our whole site schedule around our music so their and principals are relaying to us that they were told that we're unhappy with the schedule and we want to change it to which we said no come to find out that the thousand dollars they're cutting from us is to hire two new elementary pe teachers and nothing against elementary pe i'm glad to see that program my daughter is a participant in that program at rh dana but if we're cuddy if we need music to hire more i'm sorry if we need money to hire more pe teachers why are we not using some of our 92 million

064dollars in esser funds to hire new teachers teachers [Applause] and if we can't afford music for some reason can we at least wait through november when the california k-12 arts initiative passes and one percent of the general fund of california which has a 97 billion dollar surplus according to the governor passes so we can get that money for music thank you for your time [Applause] before we go on i i believe this next speaker is not doesn't have to do with music i wonder if the staff could respond to what has been said it seems like dr merlin yes thank you i i'm very sorry for the confusion that this there's an assumption that plans have been finalized they have not been finalized there have been we are looking at plans we will be meeting

065with the music teachers again to discuss this to hear their concerns and see these issues with them so nothing has been determined we are committed to meeting with them again and there is a misunderstanding they are completed and finished they are not and we then have at the future board meeting and updates since it's been presented for the for the public so that we know where we are with our music it is extremely important for our families thank you happy to do that can i second that i just i'd like to say that our kids went through the music program through uh truman benedict bernice air san clemente and we um we really appreciated it so anyway i'm here not to talk about music but about uh trust between and hello trustees trust between um

066the board and parents as you know this um past two years it's been really difficult and you guys are well aware of that the um the some of the parents or you know a lot of parents are asking does the school district have my uh child's best interest in mind um you know masking the children that was very difficult um it was a lot of contention um and many see that the curriculum is being modified to include topics like crt now i know you say you don't don't uh teach it but there's concepts in there and then promoting a heightened emphasis on sexual indoctrination or grooming at its extreme and so parents are concerned so you have a lot of great things that are going on but these things really detract and i think are

067very serious and it causes parents to think do i really want to trust my child in the school so i want to bring that up additionally trustee davis brought up about sb 866. i wouldn't want to send my child to school and have um uncertainty as to whether he's getting or she's getting vaccinated uh without my consent so i mean these are all trust issues um i just wanted you know if you guys could step back and take a look at what it's like on the parent's side and think about this i'd like to encourage the board to actively rebuild trust with parents be open with the curriculum and also make a resolution to inform parents should sb 866 pass into law [Music] thank you our next speaker will go to our online speakers now

068hello thank you for giving me this time a racist massacre in my hometown this past weekend had me urgently calling on family members and friends a friend of our family did not answer that call and the world is forever changed by yet another senseless mass slaughter teaching children about cultural proficiencies is fundamental to ending racism hate and the normalization of violence this includes subject matter and resources that prompt students to ask questions about history of our country resources must include age-appropriate content to satisfy their questions young people observe the racial disparities in our society and they want to know why people are being murdered when going about their daily lives if kids don't learn about it from good academic sources and a safe environment they will search for answers online they will learn from memes

069and chat words students need to be able to learn how to research information they find to reject lies and baseless theories ensuring our children have a quality public education is your responsibility as the trustees giving them the appropriate tools to learn in a neutral and safe environment is also part of that responsibility and i'm calling on you to keep these acts of domestic terrorism front and center as you make your decisions that impact children's ability to learn and the resources available to them in our schools a safer world depends on it thank you our next speaker is michelle go ahead good evening superintendent board of trustees hard to believe there are 10 school days left how fast this year has flown so many hurdles our teachers and staff have cleared with grace while focusing on

070the needs of our children in may many of our ptas held teacher and staff appreciation events thank you again to our amazing caring compassionate teachers and staff as we close out this year even as we celebrate with final drama performances eighth grade and senior awards graduations and culminations we look towards the future our seniors are planning next steps outside of cusd and within csd our ptas are working hard with our school sites to ensure fun summers and smooth returns to school with packet pickups registrations fall parent education nights and so much more so take a moment to celebrate our successes of this most challenging of years as we step forward into what we hope will be calmer waters to refresh before coming back to keep moving our schools and our children forward thank you speaker

071online is michelle mcnutt michelle go ahead hi i'd like to talk about something disturbing that's happening nationwide and in our district it's the use of the intentionally vague term parental rights board member lisa davis spoke at a press conference earlier this year supporting assembly bill 1785 also called california parents bill of rights act during the speech trustee davis claimed that online learning during covid alerted parents to biased curriculum and explicit sex education she also stated and i quote we have to be vigilant as parents as community members in being aware of what's happening and call out things that are not right so i'm here tonight to call out what is not right and that is you trustee davis everything you say regarding parental rights is in bad faith any parent in this district who wants

072to prevent their child from sitting in a sexual health education class has the power to do so in fact parents are empowered to restrict their children from as much information as they like there's no law stopping that they can confiscate reading material make sure their kids never learn accurate information about slavery in the u.s or japanese internment or about the stonewall riots parents can also tell their children that the earth is only six thousand years old and that their science teacher is lying when they discuss evolution they can use pseudoscience to support their harmful views around biological sex gender and sexual orientation parents can absolutely stop their children from becoming well-informed citizens but we all know it's not about parental rights this is a politically motivated movement attempting to limit or completely stop any information

073in public schools centered around race racism equity and diversity and it's disgraceful and just so you know trustee davis your previously ill-conceived effort to change board policy 4040 regarding email signature lines was an obvious attempt to prevent staff from using their pronouns thus marginalizing our lgbt community even further that's why i will say again tonight trustee davis that you are dangerous that concludes our speakers for oral communications okay at this time we move on to item 13 public hearings item a1 13 a1 at this time i would look like to open the public hearing regarding the 22 2022 2023 proposed budget the time is 8 15 pm mrs hayes do we have any speakers on this item we do not okay scene none public hearing is closed at 8 15 pm item 8 13 a2

074at this time i would like to open the public hearing regarding resolution 2 1 2 2 6 3 approving an increase in statutory school fees imposed on new residential and commercial industrial construction first pursuant to education code 17620 and government code 65995 the time is now 8 15 pm do we have any speaker cards on this item we do not seeing none the public hearing is now closed at 8 15 pm item 13 a3 at this time i would like to open the public hearing regarding 2022 days through 2023 local control accountability plan the time is now eight sixteen mrs hayes do we have any cards on this item we do not being on the public hearing is now closed and the time is 8 16 pm move on to the consent calendar please note

075that board policy 9323 and in accordance with law the public has a right to comment on any consent item at the request of any member of the board any item on the consent calendar shall be removed and given individual consideration for action as a regular board agenda item each speaker is allowed five minutes on multiple items or three minutes for one item mrs hayes do we have any speaker cards for the consent calendar this evening we do have a speaker card one uh card i want to apologize uh i have a typo in my script it says five minutes but our board policy is three minutes for all items on consent no matter the number okay so three items three minutes per item okay per speaker um okay so we will hear the speaker first

076okay michelle also campbell and i actually have two items on consent if you want me to adjust dress both of them right now both of them in three minutes okay perfect both of them are shorter than that good evening superintendent board of trustees in the past month pt across usd have donated over 167 dollars and thirty 847.38 cents to our schools donations have been for library furniture library books podiums pe equipment support staff for our libraries and computer slash steam labs field trips assemblies technology science camps playground equipment substitutes to cover classrooms ipads meet the master's innovation labs more library furniture and field trips for every grade level to all places imaginable our community and ptas are proud to support the work of our schools to support schools and help enrich the excellent academic programs

077available in cusd in addition to this our communities and families donated to run teacher and staff appreciation events and luncheons whose costs are not included in the number above so thank you so much to everyone who's donated to our schools we greatly appreciate your work and your work in pta and my second one is on item 14 b2cac appointments so good evening superintendent board of trustees special education community thank you for approving the renewal of my cac voting member application and the appointment of beth davis as a voting member i look forward to the insight and wisdom of all of the voting members and our continued commitment to serve the needs of our special education community through our work with the special education local plan area community advisory committee it will be an exciting next

078two years thank you thank you michelle we have no other speakers okay trust do any trustees have any consent items they would like to pull trustee bulacas jesse castianos trustee davis trustee hanichet jesse jones and i have none so may i have a motion to approve the consent calendar items 14 a1 314 d4 motion should move forward second move by trustee bullockus second by trustee castiano's mrs hayes looks real called role student advisor patient aye trustee bulacas aye christie castianos hi misty davis aye trustee hanicek aye st jones aye rusty mcnicholas aye motion passes 6-0 okay we are on this discussion action items and i noticed there are what appears to be student speakers here tonight um i would like to suggest that we do our capital advisors a presentation first and then um talk

079about moving up uh the item that has student speakers here is that agreeable to the board okay um so that with that we will move on to item 15 a1 capital advisors group just want to introduce kevin gordon from capital advisors here to give us information on the may revise and the work we've been doing and raise the base great welcome button yes isn't it clever uh madam board president members of the board superintendent vitel ruthley it's great to be with you all today to give you a little bit of overview of what's been going on um a lot of the developments that i'm going to talk about have literally been having in the last probably three weeks culminating with the governor's release of his may revision last friday but the events that led up

080to that have been really really encouraging now there's no question that the issue about raise the base which the button that i wearing is sort of was was minted here in capstone unified and the superintendent did sort of eloquently point out earlier but i want to really underscore it for both the board and the audience that are here today that it's sort of the birthplace of this movement was in this district motivated by an incredibly energetic pta um significant support from the board individual board members that were very active in this as well and it really picked up steam and there was communications that we helped try to coordinate a little bit but really the leadership of the superintendent communicating with superintendents all across the state and there while there's 200 a little bit more

081than 200 school districts that are sort of active in the effort completely recruited by the effort that was started here there are probably hundreds more who support the cause but they there are issues about whether you go to the board and process issues that sort of thing but there's just broadly held support but the other thing that was really important about the effort was galvanizing the support of some of the major statewide organizations and you'll note that sort of after we got really involved with this then we started seeing real activism on the part of csba the association of california school administrators county superintendents association a lot of other people who want to be on board of what looks to be like a very successful bandwagon but what happened is is we we talked about

082it in this boardroom about the challenges that we were having and some of the audience members have talked about some of the fiscal stresses that they've seen this district go through in the last couple of years including some of the things that i know you're grappling with now which is that when you look at the adoption of a budget today you have to go off of what is not what we hope will be and so all you had to go on as you craft this budget was the governor's january proposal and not a bad proposal but loaded with one-time money or completely restricted money not the latitude for this board in the community to make sure that priorities that were important to you guys like a number of the things have been talked about tonight

083get funded that that and and not only a bunch of restricted money and one time money but there were big chunks of money this district didn't even get so what came of that was a strategy to say look at if we can increase base funding which in the governor's january budget out of almost 16 billion dollar increase year over year just a crazy amount of money tiny tiny amount of money was going into the base only a 5.33 proposed increase at that time so the challenge was with this button raised the base and the whole campaign about raised the base and and a campaign frankly that's been going on for several years and was not getting any steam this district got involved with saying you know what we don't want to condemn any efforts have

084been made before because people have really tried their best but it needs new life it needs more energy and got involved with really raising the consciousness of what this issue was all about and by doing so we started out literally it was just right after the governor's january budget was announced we had staffers in the capitol building people tweeting publicly some really kind of not so nice comments about those that would say that that wasn't enough money and they weren't hearing us it wasn't about it not being enough it was the choices they made about how to distribute the money and the characteristics of it being so much one time and a lot of restricted money we want money in the base and a really important issue that this district helped articulate that it wasn't

085about tax increases it was about proper use of the money that we're going to be coming into the general fund already how do we focus that right and so when we said the way you allocate money matters the distribution of the money matters we started to see changes in attitudes in sacramento and i just about fell on my chair two weeks ago when the state assembly said first of all just incredibly eloquent speeches by the chair of the assembly education committee patrick o'donnell who has not been you know wildly enthusiastic about efforts by assemblymember al murasuchi who was carrying a bill that we all supported a 1614 it was about raising the base on lcff and and i there's no one you can find who is more incredibly energetic now about raise the base than

086patrick goodall he's just like leading the parade so he was there other people in the capital were there the tougher folks were the chairman of the full assembly budget committee assembly member ting and even the chair of the education budget subcommittee kevin mccarty not front not leading the parade not doing that sort of thing so a couple of weeks ago assemblyman martsuchi's bill who we all supported got pulled and we thought what's going on here and all of a sudden the content of our mission was put into a bill a b 1948 the authors being chairman phil ting and the chairman of the budget subcommittee kevin mccarty and then we knew right away we were going to win this yeah on the assembly these two people who had not been very enthusiastic before and sort

087of the stars are sort of aligning so then they end up putting into that bill not the 5.33 cost of living increase that was put in in january but a 15 increase as a cola now i don't know that we're going to see a number like that but for the assembly to to get behind that effort and it's all the leadership the assembly to get by time that effort created momentum so then it was the senate's turn so over in the senate side they're kind of figuring out what they're going to be for and they decided not to go with a percentage but a dollar amount so they said we're going to take the cola which needed to be actually upgraded there's a formula that determines the cola so it was a six point five

088six percent cola plus about five billion dollars they would add on top of that right away for the coming year and another five billion dollars for the 2024 2025 school year when you add it up it ends up being about 14 really close to what the assembly did and we were saying we we like a fight in sacramento over who loves us most so you know and then the next term was going to be the governor and we thought i you know we're really really wondering whether the governor would go along with us because just hasn't been an enthusiastic supporter of base funding and then the governor's may revision came out and there in the may revision is what is about a 10 increase so our reaction is that's fantastic but you can do better

089and look at the assembly look at the senate you guys know that the political reality in sacramento is anymore that when they do budgets the budget subcommittees the floors of the legislature all of these legislators can do whatever they want to do but in the final days of the budget it's negotiated out by three people the governor the president of the senate and the speaker and i'm telling you sometimes they just completely ignore everything that's gone through the hearing process and might be good news and sometimes they insert things in there that nobody ever talked about it's just suddenly part of the budget they don't know about something called the brown act because it's not exercise there so but what we know is that because all three have a position that the worst case scenario

090is a 10 increase in the base now what we have to watch out for are the little things that we also want to advocate for and this district has been real active in advocating for that would undermine that like if they don't do something about helping us with our increased obligation on stirs and purrs that the state sends us a bill this district a bill requiring us to just pay it and and we've got to figure out a way to pay this extra money and it can be up to half one year it was almost all of the amount we had gotten in a cost of living increase and then for the benefit of the board but also your public that's watching this it's real important for everybody to understand what a cola is a

091constant living allowance when they give it to us and many times the legislature over the years have done a lot of congratulations of themselves for giving us a cola a cost of living allowance increase is only keeping us at the level of service that we had in the prior year that's all it does it doesn't give us a nickel to do more than what we did and it doesn't add to an issue that superintendent's been real articulate about which is with esser funds and a lot of the one-time money we've gotten they've asked us to add support and personnel and other people to help our students we can't sustain that if we don't get something actually beyond cola so getting something into the base is absolutely essential so a couple of things going on one

092is this base conversation which we think starts at a minimum at the 10 level because the governor got us there and he can do better and we're going to encourage him to do it do a stirs and purrs augmentation to to recover some of the costs that we have as districts cover some of the other areas we're looking at increases potentially in special ed and a few others that would again also hurt the bottom line of the district if they don't give us the money for those things and then finally what they're doing with one-time money and again while we prefer you know ongoing based funding and there's a lot of money to do that there's also a staggeringly large amount of one-time money and the different proposals out there again it's a it's a

093contest to who loves you most is that we start with the state senate in this case that has two block grants one that's 10 billion i've never seen it in my entire career lobbying for public education a 10 billion dollar block grant and it's sort of like you know they're channeling you know jerry brown who used to like to give one-time money and let the board decide let local boards decide how best to use it is it's the senate's version is very very flexible it says three broad categories and if you think about these three broad categories you can tell a lot would fit into those and the very first one is everything regarding staffing now we do repeat this over and over again whether it was us or money or whether this money typically

094you don't use one-time money to fund positions not very smart one-time money for ongoing purposes you got to be real careful of that but to the extent that we had an imperative to do something about staffing and we got staffing shortages the legislature says it is one-time money and if you were going to be cutting back staff or eliminating somebody next year and this gives you the chance to continue that one more year great we want you to have this money and when we get to next year we have more one-time money maybe we'll do it again but staffing is one of the imperatives the short-term staffing needs that we have is one of those major areas the second major area is just generally learning so learning is what a lot goes on in this

095district we hope and so learning supports whether it's expanded learning or anything that's about bootstrapping the educational success of our kids very broad category that's there and then finally an area that's sort of about fiscal stability for the district is things that you're not getting funded for that you need to try to make sure you've got the resources to get through that next year one of the things they did put in there they referenced was the stirs purrs piece and i'm like you're not going to get away with that nice that you mentioned it we need that stirs purse appropriation to be outside of prop 98 and i know that's a technical term for most people but prop 98 is the constitutional required amount that you give us for teaching and learning and what we

096want on stirs purrs which is what jerry brown did and what governor newsom did in his second year as governor is we need a check written by the state two stirs and pers that lowers our obligation we don't want it to have to come out of our budgets because it just sort of defeats the purpose so that's that big 10 billion dollar block grant the second block grant they have is 5 billion again crazy money and that's for what they call tangibles deliverables so instructional materials things that you would buy that is a one-time type of purchase but the flexibility that you would have with that kind of money unlike yes or money which did not allow you to do like multiple year licenses and stuff you could do that with this money i have

097my doubts about that second pot surviving because nobody else has it the assembly doesn't have it and the governor doesn't have it but it's there it's it's 15 billion dollars total the assembly did a 10 billion dollar pot very similar kinds of characteristics that i mentioned with those three things those three sort of broad broad categories and the governor did an 8 billion pot in the may revision so you come to the same conclusion i have that means the worst we're going to get on a block grant is the eight the lowest of the three do we want them to do better yes we want them to do better how much better can they get and so we succeed on the base funding issue that we've been talking about forever and then there's still money

098to do something on block grants that are going to be big that's important and then one of the other areas is on deferred maintenance and i i i want to sort of tamp down your expectations on it but it's really great in the governor's may revision he has 1.8 billion dollars in there for deferred maintenance which is take care of all those kinds of things that when you looked at esther funding he was very prescriptive about what you could do maybe it was environmental quality in classrooms hvac and some of those kinds of things but there were some things that didn't count because you weren't creating more of an opera you weren't directly mitigating covid or you weren't creating an outdoor you know education environment that would help with covid there were only construction and

099modernization issues that were related somehow to kobet and esser this deferred maintenance would be all the things that we want to try to get to to fix that we need to fix and it's funded on a per kid basis a district this big it's not hard to do that math does really well the one reason why it's a little hard to tell you the per pupil amount right now is because they do have a minimum of a hundred thousand dollars that every district would get the little teeny tiny districts so after you kind of spend that money you see what's left we can get a better idea what that per pupil amount's going to be if it survives that proposal too is not in the senate plan not in the assembly plan and if the

100governor's going to get it he has to say what they're not going to get of some other kind of spending priority in order that's 1.8 billion a lot of money so anyway so there's that and then finally there's the school facility effort the governor and the legislature i think have really come to the conclusion that they're not really interested in going to the ballot with a major state bond measure and not because they don't think it's needed or they don't think it could pass but because they've got a problem with their budget and it has to do with this ballot measure that was passed many years ago it's called an appropriations limit and they're up against it so they got a bunch of money but they're not allowed to spend it unless it's on certain

101kinds of exceptions and one of them is infrastructure so they're thinking hey instead of going to the ballot and not knowing whether we'll pass it or not why don't we just plow a bunch of money into the state school construction program that pays for modernization new construction well for this district it's big deal because as you guys first of all have things that are in the pipeline that there hasn't been enough money to fund this recharges those dollar amounts at the state level so the matching money you guys have all done the good work of getting in line for and your voters have passed local bonds to get you in line and then to the extent that you consider doing bonds and you pass more bonds in the future there's going to be the money

102there to match it so the taxpayer dollars locally go a lot farther than they would otherwise go so just you know i spent my whole career many of you know i come up here and i you know sheepishly have to deliver bad news but this is a very very good news outcome and he's substan there's a thousand districts in california this district made a difference on the base funding issue and we're so proud of this button and i'll tell you your superintendent i had to laugh last week because the state superintendent came down here for a very serious reason and i understand he was here because of the fires and wanted to be on the front it was really great of them to do it but man she did not waste an opportunity before he

103left he was wearing one of these buttons in his suit raised the base so thank you so much for not not letting that opportunity pass so i'm going to stop there see if you guys have any questions we are going to have a detailed budget workshop that's going to be starting next week and we they're free for anybody that wants to tune in so at capital advisors website you can register and it's for community members parents school board members anybody we typically get superintendents cbo's and school board members csba is a big partner with us so is axa and we're going to drill down in each of these pots about what our forecast is what's going to happen you guys got the you guys got the advanced uh little presentation on it so i'll stop

104there yeah okay kevin um so i already have my phones blowing up about this um deferred maintenance money facilities money and people are i'm they're already asking for my to meet with them so we have not passed bonds right so um what would be really helpful for me i i will try to sit in on a conference is to have this analysis a quick synopsis what you've just said yeah i can kind of go with your analysis a little bit forecast that snapshot yes so happy to do that people's expectations yep and try to sound like i can understand what this you know we're talking about right it is a good idea to temper the expectation because the on the bummer about i love that deferred maintenance pot but it's again it's the governor's idea

105but the assembly in the senate they've got budgets where they basically spend all the money so the only way for them to go with the governor is to cut something else that's a big priority for them to do the deferred maintenance of the school facilities effort yeah um just i know i know these will be fleshed out and more but i need it like now well one of the things i can do is we'll go into our presentation we'll actually cut out those two sections i'll just get those to you so we'll do that tomorrow i can give that to you and the school bonds um there are different proposals i'm you're good to ask that because i didn't say the number so the governor's got a package that gets real close to five billion

106dollars he uses money out of each of three successive fiscal years to cobble that together and then he adds like a billion dollars for early ed facilities but all together it adds up to almost 5 billion is what his proposal the assembly wants to do 10 billion so they're really going to look at one of the criticisms that the legislative analyst the nonpartisan legislative analyst just made about the governor's plan is that they said well you've got a pretty good balanced plan but he's short about 3.5 billion on that appropriations limit of having a plan for that so i think they're going to be some legislators who say let's do let's raise the the number of dollars we're spending on infrastructure and maybe the schools could benefit from that so we'll see where that all

107washes out but yeah that's the the bond plan he has is four to five billion dollars the deferred maintenance piece is 1.8 and one last thing i forgot about was school transportation so major effort on school transportation isn't it about time that legislators realize there's actually a connection between our kids being successful and being in school and actually getting them there is that they've been starving this district and districts all across the state with regard to almost no real meaningful support on school transportation and patrick o'donnell the chairman of the assembly ed committee says we need to do universal transportation for all kids there there are walk distances that are crazy crazy short so you'd be basically giving everybody a ride so they they can make it more affordable by by stretching that out probably

108a little bit it make it a little bit more reasonable proposal but the problem with that proposal is not in the governor's budget it is the senate and the assembly both want to do something there so you can see that there will be horse trading back and forth on this and some of the things are going to be better than others but because the bill on the senate side on school transportation is written by the chair of the full budget committee in the senate something's going to happen on school transportation i'm not sure what's going to be but something's going to happen and it's going to be hopefully headed in the right direction what we don't want is legislation that creates mandates about school transportation that we have to shoulder without the money to pay

109for it because it's kind of what we got now which is we want to do transportation but we don't have the funds to do it so i think kevin if you can clarify is it currently in prop 98 or is it outside of profit 98 because that makes a big difference to us yeah all of that stuff including school transportation piece would be inside prop 98 the stuff that would be outside that we would argue would be outside would be for example the proposal the governor had a 1.5 billion dollars for electric buses we would say that's infrastructure that belongs outside prop 98. the school facility stuff is outside of prop 98 the deferred maintenance interestingly is inside prop 98. so so take up our money yeah so construction modernization is awesome that's outside yeah

110outside yeah and which we argued very strongly keep outside i have a bunch of questions but i'm going to save them for next week on the third okay great great okay but i also want to tell you that she gave tony thurman the button before i mean before she even shook hands she put a button so it was not there not when you left he sent me a picture with the button on said i hope you're happy yeah so that was great yeah it was pretty good anyway thank you what's interesting is i think the superintendent may see him again tomorrow so she's gonna he's gonna say you're now you're stalking me so i think there's a possibility yes yeah right what happened to the button let's bring another one just yeah take another one

111yes that doesn't have his handy okay thank you so much kevin interesting okay all right thank you thank you it's great to be with you all okay we have a lot of good stuff tonight um but um can you identify which items have student speakers the next item that has student speakers is 15 a7 and that's where all our student speakers are so 15 a7 is the aliso how does it make sense to do that we want to do the update on facilities first or you want to do go straight to the alisa one okay so this is this is a resolution uh two one two two day six eight resolution of the board of trustees of the capstone unified school district of intention to form a school facilities improvement district sfid number three aliso

112viejo school bond measure mr hampton would you like to present this please thank you president mcnicholas so as you mentioned the facilities presentation will reference this as well but this is the uh so in order to have a bond measure if you say you had a district-wide bond measure if you just use the boundaries of the district you don't have to form any special boundaries but because of the alisa viejo the proposed measure is for the city boundaries of elisa diego that we that are within the capital county unified school district you have to go through a process of forming that boundary and so it's the first step of this is the intent to form the boundary then the next step is if the next meeting would be a public uh period on that boundary

113and then the final approval of forming the bathroom so this is simply just to form a boundary to be able to have a bond measure within that boundary so without any background of our facilities update trustees that's i mean that was a previous item but we want to let the people speak and then we'll kind of go back backwards but aren't you asking us to vote at the end of this before we've had the facilities presentation that kind of doesn't work for us well this is just this is just the formation or or the intent to form the sfid it's not about putting the bond on the ballot or anything it's just should we form the sfid and we the staff right yes but i mean we're kind of missing the background information of why

114we should do this in the first place so so procedurally you could hear the speakers you could then table the item for let's say a half an hour and then go to your other item and then come back to this item after you hear the first one you could do that that sound reasonable okay so we've heard the presentation which is basically um explaining that this is an intent to form uh an sfid it doesn't say we are and it doesn't say we're putting a bomb in the ballot but it's describing the um area of the sfid correct that's correct okay so uh mrs hayes will you manage the speakers for us so i'd like all five speakers to line up we'll start with our students catherine klaus riley luca emily steve and cedric you

115guys all line up and then catherine and h speaker state your name when you begin and this is three minutes three minutes each five seconds thank you good evening my name is catherine class i'm a sixth grader at avms i am asking you to please vote to form the sfid so we can have better schools so our ac doesn't break and we have to constantly change class classrooms so that we don't have to get locked in our school's bathroom stalls also having smooth blacktops with crack without cracks and holes would be amazing so again i am asking you to please vote to form the sfid so so we have better schools thank you [Applause] riley go ahead um good evening superintendent board of trustees and hello my name is riley klosinski and i'm currently a

116junior at elisa and nigel high school during my last three years on campus i've noticed that there's a couple things that need improvement the first being incredible difficulty to access school bathrooms this is due to soap not being there bathrooms being broken toilets being broken and even sinks being broken alongside that the portables at our school are not representative of our elisa values the portables are constantly leaking and have had a rodent problem my entire time at the high school as a member of the theater company at school i've also been able to see how desperately we need new seats our last performance that we had a few weeks ago we had to close off the entire front row because the seats were either uncomfortable or unsafe for our people that were coming to see

117the show to sit in them i love elise and miguel but the buildings and facilities at the school don't represent our values the new science building is amazing but it only is used by a handful of students i wish to make elise and miguel amazing for all students so please vote for sfid and i thank you all for your time [Applause] yes good evening so last time i was here we spoke about raise the base which is school funding today we'll talk about school facilities uh the structures and the buildings that students go and learn also refer to school buildings and at least so viejo they need to be fixed they're aging and the only way to fix them the only solution that i know is a bond we don't have an alternative so here

118the community community's here you guys took a polling you're going to get the report i'm sure it's going to be very positive we're asking you to just help us pay with our money to fix our city schools again we just heard kevin gordon would like to pass a bond soon and i know you guys have to do sfad first but the matching funds are there and if we can get them we should get them now thank you so much hi i'm emily cravens i'm a proud parent of three students in aliso viejo i have a second grader at oak grove i have a seventh grader at avms and i have a junior at anhs there's been a lot of talk about the bonds and i've found um doing all of this and i think one

119of the things that we've heard a lot is that there's a lot of work to do with the bond and you've got a group of parents in less than 24 hours we put together this group just to come to the board meeting imagine what we can do when we have the time and the resources behind us to get a bond passed we're willing we know the work that requires to do it and we want to do it because we believe in our school we believe in our students and we want the best for them and that's why you should pass ffid thank you [Applause] our next speaker is steve hi good evening mine's going to be short and sweet since i'm i guess the anchor please allow the residents to contribute their hard-earned money and

120tax dollars to improve the facilities at a hs and the feeder schools members of this community and myself have walked through all of the facilities and they are in need of major improvements my two daughters were in water polo and on the swim team this year and it's it's just heartbreaking when they actually have to look down every time they take a step from cracks so please uh consider that thank you did they have one more card cedric did cedric have to leave would you like to make the motion to table this and go back to the other item i would like to make the motion to table this and come back to it so i don't have a specified time do we have to specify you can say immediately after the completion of 1584

121facilities goals update presentation i i'd like to go ahead and vote on this now i i don't really think that the facilities update presentation is going to make a difference in how we vote is there anyone who thinks it'll make a difference i'm i'm happy to vote on it now well hold on hold on hold on christy bullock has made a motion made a motion we need i'm waiting for a second if we get no second it will die for lack of a second if we get a second then we go back and discuss they've been moved and seconded moved by trustee bullock second by justine davis i'm going to take a voice vote on this mrs hayes on whether we table this motion and go back and review um 1584 and then come immediately

122come back to this all in favor say aye of which the table of tables okay okay all in favor say aye all opposed say no no okay the nose have it so that means we're going to vote on this now that i will entertain a motion [Music] move 15 a 7 for a second thank you okay it's been moved by trustee castle tastiana second by trustee haneck to approve resolution uh two one two two day six eight resolution of the board of trustees of the capitol unified school district of the intention to form a school facilities improvement district sfib d number three alicia va health let's do a roll columnist because it's a resolution that's correct student advisor patia hi trustee bulacas nay trustee castianos i trustee davis hey trustee hanna check aye rusty jones

123aye trustee mcnicholas bye motion passes four two as a preferential vote of iron advisor patty okay now [Applause] now we will go back to are we going to do facilities okay facilities or mass we have teachers here for math okay all right we're going to 15a2 let me get back to it i'm sorry my dana hill's friends this is going to be i don't control everything do we have another student speaker in the audience do we have any other student speakers in the arts no it doesn't look like it this is a presentation proposal of a multi-year district mathematics plan for discussion i will turn it over to dr merwin who can bring in whoever he wants to bring in thank you very much president mcnicholas trustee superintendent batall realty staff is proud to present

124item to math plan for discussion while this is a discussion action item the title of this item is intentional that we are presenting a math plan as a proposal for discussion to spark a conversation or trust for trustee feedback after we receive directions staff would then work collaboratively with cea our teachers and administrators to finalize a plan to bring the book to bring back the board for approval so we have a short presentation to share with with all of you this evening that provides the key components of the proposal and the student data that supports the plan joining me in presenting and answering your questions is the amazing curriculum instruction team led by assistant superintendent carrie johnson executive directors meg irvis and peggy barrist and stem coordinator karen gauthier we are also joined by an

125all-star cast of amazing teachers and the team will introduce them shortly and also jeff ruby from the irvine math project is here as well next libraries so we start within the context of the vision of a cusd graduate trustees will recall last june we shared the vision of five key attributes that every graduate would develop and refine as they progress through our schools from preschool to high school to help them be successful in a rapidly changing world one of the attributes as you can see it's going to pop out there was innovative problem solver and critical thinker with an additional focus on creative creatively exploring solutions and analyzes and interprets data from multiple sources this attribute is developed through mathematics so during the same boardwalk workshop last june you may recall the board directed staff

126to prioritize a review of middle school acceleration and math pathways for students to ensure access so in response to this direction we're excited to return this evening with a math plan for discussion next slide please so our purpose this evening is to propose a plan for discussion a plan that provides greater access for more challenging coursework that meets the needs of all students by providing greater support to students who struggle academically and to maintain support and opportunities for those who excel in mathematics dr johnson will continue the presentation [Music] thank you dr merwin and as dr merwin said trustees provided directions to staff that this math plan proposal should address four goals greater access for all students without hindering students on accelerated pathways support challenging coursework to prepare students for success in their post-secondary college

127or career pursuits provide professional learning to facilitate effective instructional practices and finally revisit grading and homework practices and bring back recommendations in the form of a revised board policy for consideration by trustees now i'd like to welcome mr peggy barrist executive director of elementary education to present the elementary portion of the math plan thank you dr johnson our goal in the elementary grades is to support students as they develop their own identities as math learners and as mathematicians we do this by building a strong foundation in numeracy as students communicate ideas explain their reasoning and consider the reasoning of others this slide highlights professional learning for teachers that will be offered next year first step is math differentiation with integrated english language development this was provided for all fourth and fifth grade teachers this year

128and will be extended to second and third grade teachers in 2022-23 these sessions focus on open-ended tasks that afford students opportunities to naturally extend their thinking and it includes integrated eld with language routines that facilitate communicating mathematical reasoning for all students next we will partner with the irvine math project to provide supplemental fraction units for fourth and fifth grade teachers these units will strengthen students conceptual understanding of fractions which is one of the strongest indicators of future success in algebra our current sixth grade teachers have stated that students number sense with fractions is an area that needs to be strengthened at the elementary elementary grades in addition we will continue to provide cognitively guided instruction for all new teachers and we will also offer a cgi refresher course for those teachers who would like the

129opportunity to retake some cgi we will offer cgi courses beginning during summer professional learning academy this august and also during the school year and all teachers will be cgi trained by next year next up is dr meg irvis who will present regarding middle school thank you i apologize i can't be there in person but i'm really happy to join you for this based on previous board direction in middle school we're recommending consideration of shifts in how we plan middle school instruction by focusing on starting all middle school students with a cornerstone sixth grade math course that focuses on rigorous foundational skills that fully prepare students to move into the secondary standards including our most advanced pathways this shift is recommended in the cde mathematics frameworks and by math education leaders at universities like uc irvine

130and stanford based on the board's direction we would like to consider adjusting existing math pathways in secondary starting in 22 sorry 23 24. we would develop a pilot new pathways that equip all sixth grade students with foundational math skills we're going to provide more details in a few slides provide greater access for all students including opportunities to enter accelerated math pathways at more points in the secondary continuum utilize heterogeneous grouping at the foundational sixth grade level so all students have that solid foundation as they begin to navigate middle school and maintain existing high school course options for accelerated students including our robust ap course offerings in statistics and up to two years of ap calculus a b and b c this chart shows the percentage of students meeting the uc math subject area requirement which

131includes three years of college preparatory mathematics as a reminder to meet minimum admission requirements for uc and cal state campuses students must complete 15 year-long high school courses with a letter grade of c or better these courses fall into several subject areas labeled a through g including history english math science languages other than english we refer to them as world languages visual performing arts as well as a general college preparatory electives category this chart represents the percentage of cusd students completing four years of mathematics it should be noted that the three year math requirement to earn a cusd diploma went into effect for the class of 2020 and you see the the bump up there in 2020 and 2021. this chart demonstrates the percentage of students who took and passed calculus though these numbers represent

132an exciting trend for students enrolling in calculus it also demonstrates that there's an opportunity to offer other high-level math courses next i would like to welcome and she's gonna not like that i'm gonna say this but she is the amazing ms karen gaffier coordinator of stem to present the sixth grade math plan thank you dr johnson and yes i told you not to say that so research has shown that students mathematics experiences in middle school significantly affect the likelihood that they persist in pathways that prepare them for the broadest range of math courses in high school and college middle school students build their mathematical identities about math course work that will have long-term implications for the college and career achievements so we would like to open up the discussion with our math leaders and staff

133to go slower to go farther the math framework recommends that content not be skipped but instead compacted and that the compaction should not begin until seventh grade our sixth grade content is the first year students are introduced to new math content with proportions ratios and percents these new math topics are essential and predictors of future success in algebra pre-common core math standards in middle school spiraled and that means certain math standards were reintroduced over several years so that the practice of skipping sixth grade math was less problematic because the skills and concepts were repetitive the common core math standards are like building blocks they follow a very specific pathway on a coherence map mastery of these standards is expected in each grade level in order to have a foundational understanding of the next year's standards

134none of these standards should be skipped at any great month i would now like to turn it over to dr ernest thank you this graphic in front of you represents an example of both both standard and accelerated pathways the graphic is definitely not an exhaustive list but meant to highlight sample pathways being proposed it is important to note that these proposed pathways do not skip standards as some of our current model does with sixth grade but rather compact standards differently with the same options for students available by 11th and 12th grade those same high level end of journey classes the first row represents our standard college prep pathway which results in students meeting a through g requirements and graduating college and career ready and math the second row is an example of how a student

135who has been in a standard pathway as they enter high school can still join an accelerated pathway that ends with an advanced placement course if that is the student's goal we all know those students who get through middle school and find their stride in high school ready to take on the rigors of advanced courses at that point in their k-12 career this ensures they have that option and then we have our third example which shows how we can compact standards in new ways to provide the same outcome of the highest level math at the junior and senior level without skipping foundational skills this new model of compacted accelerated courses is similar to options provided in neighboring districts and based on work with teacher leaders and uci's irvine math project however we have not yet named

136and unpacked the courses that would be the work done with our teachers department chairs and colleagues from irvine math if we receive board direction to do so this is a conceptual model which changes how we can compact in middle and high school but we have already been compacting for high school we proposed two new accelerated courses that infuse algebra ii standards into geometry and into pre-calculus that our teacher leaders will actually design one of the significant benefits of compacting in this way beginning with geometry instead of algebra 2 at high school allows for a more cohesive connection of algebraic principles to be continued through from algebra to calculus in addition to the changes mentioned on the previous slides in high school we are also planning to pilot data science at san clemente high school which

137will provide a new option for a third and fourth year of math with a plan to considering to consider expanding data science as an advanced a through g math course at all high schools based on the outcomes of the pilot we are all also requesting to consider piloting the yet to be named geometry algebra 2 accelerated and algebra ii pre-calculus accelerated courses in 2324 with board direction to do so it is important to have a coherent district-wide plan for math learning for the plan to bear fruit principals need a deep and shared understanding of an effect of effective math instruction and student learning across all grade levels to this end we will begin in the summer at the coma retreat with an in-service on effective math instructional practices and then throughout the school year conduct

138learning walks by family with principals from all levels beginning in fall with elementary fall and winter with middle schools then concluding in spring with high schools and then finally next summer i'm holding an overall debrief and planning for next steps in the summer the last point here you see is a grading and homework task force will review and revise board policy 5121.1 grades evaluate grades and evaluation of student achievement and bring back to trustees for approval thank you for your consideration and discussion of this proposed plan the entire curriculum instruction team cusd teachers and principals as well as representatives from the irvine math project are here to answer questions i also want to point out specifically mr david chamberlain who has a long term a long time tosa and has helped build our math program

139as high as it is looks like we have no speakers for this item okay no speakers on the map thing okay uh trustees trustee handshake thank you um this looks phenomenal to me and especially when i look out in the audience and i see laura campium who guided my children um i feel like this would be so much better for them when they that they were at both different levels um i have a question about compacting and renaming and maybe i'm just overly uh worried because when we went to even with my children's time we went to apply for colleges there were hiccups with some of our course namings and so on so forth so once we compact and rename if we go forward in that way um we'll it will be recognized right by

140every uc state private and then the out of state right we aren't going to do something that's so out of the box um so that's my first question and the second one is i believe that um i kind of wanna personally i would get going on this now um irvine unified has already been similar to this model is that correct yes trustee handshake that is correct about irvine yes and to answer your first question we're still we're compacting within a traditional model of mathematics we're just compacting the standards differently to make sure that all students have that strong foundational grounding but i also would like to defer to karen gather if she has anything to add on that thank you yes so we would definitely make sure that the names of the courses would match

141um the c guidelines for a through g um currently right now i i apologize i don't know what i can pull it up on my computer in a second um long beach unified but not long laguna beach high school also offers these same two courses that we're considering doing in high school i don't know exactly what they call it but i'll look it up and report back to you any other trustee questions comments trustee castillos i'm just um super appreciative of the work on the math pathway i think as a parent i've struggled with my own children going through the math pathway but also just hearing from other parents struggling through middle school and having having to be identified either you're an excellent math student or not so great at math in sixth grade and

142then not being able to to shift out of that pathway i think it needed to be revised and worked on so i really appreciate the work on this so i i just i think it's a much better plan and layout for student success so thank you um i have several comments um i'm not quite sold um i i understand the compaction versus skipping i get that but do we really think and and i even understand why everybody gets the same math six to get that foundational logic um i'm maybe i'm a little out of touch but i thought we did teach fractions in elementary school i remember helping with fractions in fourth and fifth grade so [Music] teachers are nodding out there i go so i'm going to say this isn't the first time they've

143heard of fractions and decimals i remember helping with that so i can adjust that so um yeah we even asked you tonight to give us permission to however my math work with our fourth and fifth grade teachers on corrections okay so i apologize if there's something misleading okay yeah i thought so because we need to do this it looks like we need to do this in sixth grade because they it's a it's a basis for for the next one we should have gone to the fourth and fifth grade i thought but yeah actually it starts in um first grade that's even better they're just they're absolutely just it's not it's never a just they're um learning about halves and forwards yeah and cutting apart shapes and equal equal parts um the ratios and proportions and

144percents are brand new to success content but i have larissa martis here she would like to speak she is a sixth grade teacher at don juan avila middle school and we could give her an opportunity to speak them do you want to tell me about fractions and ratios and proportions do i have to come up there or is my teacher voice louder well there's people oh that's right there's people listening we have hundreds of fans hundreds of fans um superintendent board of trustees thank you for uh allowing me to speak on this um i've been a math teacher in the district this is my 15th year um i am also a product of the district a very proud graduate of dana health high school uh 2020 or not 20 2001 i'm very old i met

145one of my 26 year old students uh from marco forester where i spent the first eight years of my career and attended as a student um and on fractions and on on the compacting and all of this i've sixth grade's been my my baby um i'm department chair this year so i've also taken on teaching seventh grade and next year i will be jumping into eighth grade as well but still keeping my sixth graders um and the fraction issue is we always have to spend time through no fault of anyone's going back and revisiting the standards from prior grades and i think that is a combination of factors i know um i thank you so much for allowing us the training of the irvine math uh project in 15 years the best training i've ever

146been to and being able to implement that we went back to actually going show me one half on a piece of plato and worked through that and then showed me one half and one-fifth on a piece of plato and how that built and a lot of our students are really good at the algorithm but have no clue where that comes from and really going back and it's always interesting with my ones that just miss that acceleration and they're like oh why i'm like well some of you don't show your work so you miss step three in your head but a lot of that is that foundational understanding of what they're actually doing falls apart and so when you get that foundation and build we are always going back it was it was fascinating in our

147last curriculum uh scope and sequencing we just had which was fantastic and with karen and our partners with irvine math project we're going to continue that this summer um we went around the room and as a sixth grade teacher i was like what do you learn in calculus i'm like well i remember what i've learned in calculus but it was a constant need of all of us to go well then we have to reteach that and then we have to you know reteach that through through that whole go slow to go far like we need that foundational understanding that builds to the algorithm and it's it's beautiful i've been every family member is sick of me teaching them fractions again um and going through the steps to really understand and my students who were always

148like but i just know that i keep change flip that's all i know and i'm like but why do we do that why do we do that um and where does the common denominator come from and this is just a little piece where at my school one of our priority standards changed this year due to our work with irvine math project and really seeing that the need and the building from the fractions into the ratios because now they're seeing a ratio and they're like but that's a fraction but it's a whole different mindset so that foundation of the fractions i have never seen such foundational understanding and then we we didn't make them simplify we explained equivalency and even my students have been taking the final exam the last two days and they're like um

149i know on this one we have to simplify because it's a multi it's part of the multiple choice questions but this one is a short response do we need to go down to simplest form or could we leave it in the unsimplified equivalent version and i wanted to cry because they were like equivalency on that point um so just that yes they have those fractions but giving them the time to see where the algorithm comes from and going great you know the steps but why and really building that is so foundational and a lot of times in sixth grade at the beginning like but this is easy this is easy because it's a lot of those foundational skills and then unit four is ratios and it's like boom and they're like what is this stuff

150because we're combining so much so we're getting there our kids are doing amazing thank you so much for the training and for karen and dave they've been amazing our support staff um and and really allowing us to to drive that with our plc process and everything um our kids are doing amazing things and it's really exciting to be in there and i i welcome any of you into my classroom i have an open door policy just please excuse the asb stuff um on the side you never know what you'll find but thank you i think i was in the common core training for parents yes apparently yes i did that yes um okay so it really starts in elementary school yes the whole cgi and why you do it not just here's the algorithm i

151get that i get that so what but by the time you get to seventh grade you really think you can compress seventh and eighth grade into one year if you have a good sixth grade so our sixth graders are already doing that in math seven accelerated that is a combo of half of six half a seven and so our kids walk into seventh grade and okay here's a fraction oh and we're going to make it negative and we're going to combine it with decimals and understanding those pieces so it can be i think a lot of times we still like to add stuff and add extra stuff so a lot of our work this year has been really unpacking those standards to what part of it it is that we're using i know at d

152gems we're working on vertical alignment and really taking those standards that like they're gonna know this or you will know by need by name who doesn't have it for the following year um and instead yes because they'll have that foundation they'll have that understanding we won't have to keep re-teaching the stuff that we've touched on so much with the spiral of it and we've been used to teaching so many standards for so many years that compacting two on an accelerated pathway is appropriate that time they need that number sense in order to build into everything else we do okay um any other trustee questions otherwise i'm going to keep going oh judy if i see bulacus let me insert here because you're on that subject where i have questions okay so i'd like to understand

153why i've sat up here for going on five years now and we have seen the scores of math you know improve a little bit and then they hit fifth grade fifth grade year after year we'd see oops it takes a dive and it goes back up so now with i ready and all i don't know that we've received those numbers i mean we've had when we've gone to schools and told them about how wonderful they've done in picking up those numbers but when i'm talking to high school teachers about this plan and they say it should start in elementary and you know should be building can you talk to me about what happens in fifth grade how we fix that because if you're a sixth grade teacher so at what point are they getting the

154fractions to the ratio and is this something we should start sooner what happens in the fifth grade there we go and then i have a little comment explain this uh it's hard to explain but before i do that can i thank everybody that was i'm from moulton elementary school we had unfortunately uh yeah they walked into my class so thank all of you for that so yeah you were teaching me thanks for coming but as a fifth grade teacher and i have another fifth grade teacher she's in the back to help me on the next subject but fifth grade is where fractions gets very difficult and it's it's just very hard for fifth graders to understand it we're not just dealing with halfs and quarters and thirds we're dealing with large large numbers that have

155to be you have to find a common denominator with 9 and 14 to try to make it equivalent so it's not easy to do and they just don't understand fractions it's really early in in their they're only 10 11 years old so that's the that's where i see being a major problem and then you guys review a lot but we're reviewing with the fourth grade they do a lot of common denominator stuff one eight plus two thirds and you can draw it but when you have one fourth and seven ninths you trying to draw that was two fractions in in a problem is very very difficult so they're they're coming that's where it becomes very hard and it's just way a lot of times it's be above these kids and then now i'm not going

156to blame it on third grade i'm not going to believe it on fourth grade some fifth graders coming in still don't know the multiplication facts they don't know their division facts so we're reviewing that and i'm sure you're seeing that in middle school too and also as as we're going to fifth and sixth grade a lot of the math um as my colleague mentioned sorry i've never met you sound amazing um but a lot of that math they can no longer visualize it they do not have that foundation one half one four three fours one fifth one we can understand that they can see that in their brain they've played with something that looks like that math in fifth to sixth grade is becoming more abstract our students brains are developing that we have a

157lot of students who take off in sixth and seventh grade they're like oh they finally get it like well that's their brain development but yay you know they're doing all that work so it is taking that from okay one half how am i gonna visualize that to one ninth to three fourteenths to and and what does that mean because i need to have a foundation and how that worked with a common denominator to now i'm going to take that algorithm and that visualization from there into these numbers that i don't understand because then halfway through the year i'm going to give you x and y and distributive property and all these other things where now we've really gone into a whole new language of math it has really gone to that where you're like okay

158this is where that logic piece comes in this is where that abstractness of math comes in and this is where the language of math comes in and she mentioned earlier about key change flip trying to teach fifth graders how to divide a fraction by another fraction it's nearly impossible i mean most adults can't do dividing a fraction and when would you divide a fraction i'm trying to think and many these kids aren't cooking any longer you know we talk about we're going to be dividing ingredients and things like that in fifth grade but trying to figure out when to multiply a fraction and when to divide a fraction are two different things so let's hear from jeff ruby oh so i i wanted to address two things first uh the fifth grade issue of uh

159partly that is why we're talking about now doing some work um with a couple of units in fourth and fifth grade on some of the hardest topics so that in a sense also the theme of how we develop that understanding can flow more smoothly from fourth to fifth to sixth um there's a pretty clear delineation between what operations on fractions are taught in fourth grade and in fifth grade and in sixth grade and uh when each class when each course really takes responsibility in a deep way for understanding the operations and level of understanding that they're asked to do um it it makes a lot more sense than saying each class should just do all of the operations and we'll do them over and over again for three or four years and hope that they'll

160get them eventually so having that very clear sequencing and everybody takes a clear responsibility and can understand it i think could help with that there is the the statewide issue that in general fifth grade has lower test scores um uh it's it's a it's not a and part of that we can understand in a lot of ways um there's a lot less focused math professional development that usually happens in fourth and fifth grade the content keeps getting harder but really when you look at it a multiple subject teacher has reasonably little coursework on mathematics perhaps two or three courses that covers all of the mathematics from kinder all the way through fifth grade and it's not that it's the coursework needs to teach them the mathematics there's a lot to be learned about how to

161teach the mathematics effectively that's totally different i'm not saying that they don't they need a course about to do the fourth and fifth grade mathematics but it gets to be hard and then fifth grade teachers are still for the most part i believe exclusively here in the district still teaching every subject so they can't develop as much to put as much time to it to doing one course so some professional development help there but uh the other issue the question of compaction as of right now um the the fastest accelerating students in capistrano do all of their acceleration in middle school and then they start going at a normal just one course per year pace in high school so they don't accelerate it's like getting people to run the first half of the race twice

162as fast and then you get to slow down and do the rest whereas so in effect the fastest people do from the time they leave fifth grade to the time they leave eighth grade they would have completed five courses worth of content sixth seventh eighth algebra one and geometry so it's a five and three compaction with almost all of the compaction happening in the sixth grade um a lot of sixth seventh and eighth in sixth grade with then taking algebra and geometry that's in excess that's a it's a lot of compaction and then realistically it becomes not compaction it becomes some skipping when you're putting three years into one um this this pathway that is being suggested is a common pathway it's a recommended pathway and in fact um one thing uh can you put

163up the pathway one more time um when you look at the early compaction uh there um these two uh in seventh and eighth grade or the one in seventh grade where it says math seven accelerated um in many cases and this could be worked out in the details it becomes math seventh eighth accelerated and algebra one those three courses in two you don't necessarily have to put all two in one and then go algebra one at a normal pace some parts of the eighth grade can be done in eighth grade with algebra one so you take three courses put it into you're in effect doing a year and a half worth of math per year and what you've been able to do is by seeing everybody take sixth grade and start taking the hardest topics

164of the there's a big jump in standards in sixth grade the beginnings of these secondary standards the even the topic titles change it's they're big much more algebraic by seeing who's done that you can reasonably look at and decide who can handle a pace of a year and a half per year and a year and a half per year is very doable for a larger number of students than the slightly faster pace well significantly faster pace that currently exists and then you have another opportunity at high school to do a year and a half per year pace again students who are finding joy in mathematics finding success in mathematics a year and a half per year is not a crazy pace it's it's accelerated to no doubt you end up end up doing more courses

165in the course of your high school but a year and a half per year is actually kind of the recommended amount of compaction um and i think very clearly demonstrated in a lot of districts that it can be done both at the middle school level and at the high school level okay so in both of those cases it's like a three and two you're doing three years in so math seven eight and algebra you're going to do in two years and then in the high school you're doing geometry algebra two and pre-calculus three classes in two years that just that assumes though that that same cohort of kids is doing both and there's no you can't well you can always drop out because if you did a year and a half and you can go

166in you're there you're right that there won't be a wait every year yeah an opportunity to get in unless there are some districts who if they want that say at the end of seventh grade if you did a standard seventh grade some districts have done a summer bridge i know irvine has one where where they say if you really finally you decided yes you're good in seventh grade but you didn't get in you didn't do that you're really missing uh topics that could be done in a six eight week summer school and then you could jump in but otherwise the difference here though compared to what we have right now is right now if you start high school in algebra one there's no within the school pathway for accelerating there you can always like any

167place you can go outside of the school and learn it someplace else take a community college course those kind of things but you can't within the school right now if you start algebra one the next course you take is geometry then algebra two the best you're going to get is precalculus there is no compacted pathway available within but this would allow that one more question what happens to trigonometry is it folded into something else because i don't know for a long time trigonometry has not been a course title by itself it was absolutely algebra too so it's um uh within whether it's either a math one two three for the school districts like irvine that are doing integrated or when we're here doing algebra geometry algebra ii uh trig some piece of it show up

168in geometry and some pieces of it show up um in algebra too but it's um not usually listed as part of it so it's not something we're skipping no not at all still it's still it's absolutely essential for the advanced courses of pre-calculus and uh calculus uh two more questions um did judy you have another question yeah you've gone way past i'm going to ask the other teachers when i ask questions to come back up because i haven't finished the brain development versus um ability and the aging that the teacher had mentioned and i had talked to another middle school teacher who touched on that okay who was that you need to just before we advance to them the next let's go back 15 years to my child development courses um so you touched on

169something that i've had another middle school teacher who's taught sixth seventh and eighth past for years um and she spoke about the brain development versus the ability and one of the examples that was given and i'm all for adding all these on-ramps that was the big issue because you know what the off-ramp is you know within six weeks if you're not doing well you drop the class you know and you take the next one lower so the question goes back to you're talking about the other teacher the fifth grade and the fractions being very challenging okay and in sixth grade there's been the experience that or in seventh grade you've got this brilliant student who does really well in algebra they're feeling good about themselves self-esteem and so now they're taking um algebra 2 and

170trigonometry and suddenly they need a tutor they're like what's wrong with me um and so i just kind of like to understand if we are getting the ability because every child develops differently and someone who hasn't done well in sixth grade by having more on-ramps because maybe they'll hit high school and it'll take off because it'll clip yeah um i also think that um i'm a big proponent of this um and uh i'm a big proponent of math teacher to give partial credit um because students in multi-step math problems it's not all or nothing and this sort of plays to that i also believe um at one of our trainings dave i think we were there together um where it said can a student fail early and still succeed okay i have sixth graders who

171might not show me proficiency on the timeline i have dictated based on what i'm doing now granted we're doing our intervention we're doing all these other things but we're still moving forward and you know paying catch up but i need to reward the children and my students that now are showing me proficiency on these standards so it's almost multi-tiered because we have our students developing as you mentioned at all different rates so it's one thing to add the on-ramps for that student who wasn't quite there at the end of six to accelerate in that high school and not be on one path as well as within our courses make sure that we are not going oh you didn't get it on november 6th when i gave the test now you've shown it as it was

172building into as a pre-step to this other one or you've gone to intervention for me and you've shown me this understanding and whether i assess through multiple ways reward that it's always talking to students about you know they always come in i don't know fractions well you found a common denominator you added the numerators left the denominators they're same i really would like a white board right now by the way um and you managed to actually pull the whole number but you forgot to simplify the fraction from two-fourths to one-half and we've had this conversation in math like well they showed you the audition and talking to kids about this is what you did it's always like well what don't you understand that's a kid's like what i'm like no no what step did we

173go that's why i need to see your work look look you did five steps i'm not in your head you don't want me in your head right and i've got the five steps but look it's this little twink it says look now you've got it you you did it so it's i think with the brain development being that our kids are developing throughout our time with us we don't know how our tk student is going to end up and giving them opportunities to shine and show what they know and show proficiency as many times as we can while giving them that strong foundation and that actual number sense i taught for eight years at marco horster every teacher is a literacy teacher truly believe that i also would like to start the campaign of every

174teacher as a basic math teacher because that foundational level we get it and yes i student taught in this district and i was put in charge of teaching fractions to the the low group as we isolated them into a classroom and i remember sitting there with my other fellow student teacher and going okay those are two fractions we're dividing them i just changed them into decimals in my calculator like i totally forgot this whole keep change flip thing but then you know it's that foundation of like okay i have one half i'm slicing it into little i'm putting little force into it you know and it just sort of gets kids are gonna pick that up at different times and we need to make sure that we are yes there's a schedule it's always that

175assembly line and you know when you know the ford model t was happening and the assembly line was this great thing and education was becoming where we led the world and everyone's gonna go to school look what it's done um uh at marco we had a speaker who was like well we created our education system and again i'm quoting from 10 15 years ago so please don't you know cite my resources uh my recollection but you know we're still when so much of our population went to agriculture our population isn't going to the field of agriculture anymore you know some of the things we're still using are the potato peeler when we should be giving them you know a little microchip this big to to work through these problems so um it it is really

176with that of like understanding i know i'm sorry i'm all over the place with my comments but giving them opportunities both within the course and in the course framework to have those accelerations and reward them not just reward them recognize them for being proficient and being like yay you've done this this is how this built to this it's always that eye opening where they're like that's why it goes like that you know and working there so i can ask one last question so just to hear it from you would you say that i ready helps you in that because one of the other examples i was given is that a student should have been an eight should have been at an eighth grade level like more like third grade but with i ready had improved

177to fifth grade and so the teacher had said look at your improvement i mean they thought well i'm still behind but it's that congratulating them that look at where you've come so has i ready we're talking about this math project is that a piece that's been really helpful in middle school this this first year i love it okay i love it um i because i get data quickly i get comprehensive data quickly i can drill down to it um the the software and i have not dived in as much as i i need to um you know it was it was one of those it it's new you know it is new we were told that we're not doing cast testing last year here's this i ready thing we're like we just need to know

178how to do the test we we get all you know and then using it this year the conversation's been we've used i've used it for intervention so as department chair i took and downloaded fall diagnostics for every single student sixth seventh and eighth and one of our amazing intervention uh math teachers who we have thank you covet hopefully raise the base um was able to she's like you know what i will do during our bronco plus which is our intervention i will take the the seventh and eighth graders and i took we took any student two grade levels or below and i had gone through already and i had picked a group based on what they had said this group would work and of course the first time i did it i had one go

179well i just clicked i just clicked the answers i you know and it still was a little like a little off and i found just in this little time and again it's just the tipping point of i ready in the lessons my intervention for those low kids i couldn't meet the needs in one lesson in 30 minutes of intervention one day a week because it was you know math was priority day on thursday i couldn't grab them and get someone who i had at the second grade level and someone who was right there on the cusp of being almost early sex i couldn't i couldn't do that in one lesson one day a week so what i did is i said okay you guys pull out your id lessons get on the computer get your

180whiteboard out i'm circling here are the rules you do not move on if you don't understand a question or you don't know how to do it and i was able to spot check intervention while i ready was giving the lesson and then one student's like i don't get this i was able to diagnose and look and be like okay well you didn't read the problem correctly or you didn't understand it so what's this meaning then if a student had like they had no clue one was moving the decimal wrong when multiplying i was able to quickly because i had a white board going actually like three in my hand i would give them like a quick little lesson give them an example problem and then off to the side give them a few problems and

181watch them do those circle back so it was both not something to to take away me as the teacher but to enhance it because i didn't have to sit there with all the steps i could pinpoint those misunderstandings and fill those holes so i'm really excited um where we're going with that we always get the data of casp in august and it's convoluted and sometimes even with an explanation of what does communication mean you know in math and how many things are being tested but really getting down both to the standards and that communicating in a way that the kids were like yeah i saw this this sort of looked you know what i've seen pulling that so i've enjoyed it i'm excited to see where it goes with in collaboration with or my math

182project because the kids are sort of seen they're like well we sort of did something like that um and it was really neat because we could accelerate different uh things and just i didn't mention but with irvine math project every period did things at a different rate based on what i was getting from feedback in the class okay and i wanted to did i i don't know if we formally introduced mr ruby from the irvine math project i just want to make sure that trustees were aware is he still okay so just want to make sure that he's representing irvine math project that has been working with our teachers i hate to interrupt you because you're so passionate but i want to make sure trustees get their questions answered and we're coming up on 10

183o'clock and still have a big agenda to go uh trustee davis do you have a question i have a number i don't know if you want to finish yours first i'll finish mine at the end okay okay okay so first of all i'm all for strengthening math i am all for strengthening sixth grade math obviously that's where we're looking at making those changes um and if we were running a k-6 program where it was self-contained then this formula would make sense to me i love the access in fifth sixth seventh eighth and i love adding more on-ramps to different ways i i've had too many conversations with too many parents where their child including one of my children missed moving into this math world in the middle school accelerated by one question by two questions

184and never having another opportunity so then following my child having eight pluses in mouth year after year after year never being able to accept if she would have taken a summer school she didn't want to um so so i understand that piece i i also taught sixth grade math and science for a couple of years and taught k through five so and math i love math so and there's some critical skills i mean for sure in first grade they need to be knowing their doubles their their doubles plus one in second grade you know i mean third grade they need to know their multiplication facts upside down inside out backwards and they need to be discussing them up and down because it hits the brain different 3 6 9 12 15 18 21 24 27

18530 30 27 24 21 all the way down they should be going up and down that should be as they're brushing their hairs they're brushing their teeth they should that should be this fast for every single child by third grade so by the time they get to fifth and sixth grade that is not the case we still have i'm sure your fifth grade and sixth grade teacher both not in your heads you have students that do not know their multiplication and if you don't know it this fast the pace is this fast math is this fast and we have we do we have to make these changes so that we are better strengthening our teachers in elementary so that when they get there they're ready for that um two critical skills in sixth grade must

186be fluent multiplication facts because because it affects every math standard fractions decimals problem solving equations inequalities ratios proportions percent you have to be fluent in multiplication subtraction division addition um and of integers right so there's certain skills that have to be fed all of that's all good i think it's pretty amazing that we have 73 percent of our students in cusd that have completed four years of math in high school i think that's pretty phenomenal really and 79 percent have met uc math requirements again i feel that's pretty pretty phenomenal because there are as we all know there are a number of students that math is not their strength and it may never be their strength so to me those are pretty great and have 19 of our students that complete calculus that's pretty phenomenal

187as well i don't think that there's a massive amount of people that think calculus is their end-all be-all that i don't know maybe we're looking to have a significant amount of more students complete calculus i'm not that sure but i think that we would be doing a disservice if we didn't allow students that are highly accelerated to not have that opportunity to move on to that path if they're ready and they are proficient in all the skills they should be able to jump into accelerated math and again i'm all for strengthening sixth grade but i also don't think we clear out that bottom row i think math seventh and eighth accelerated algebra geometry i think that it's important that they are allowed to have geometry in eighth grade if that's where if this is what

188they love if this is what they love then let them do it but i think we need more on-ramps so that if after six weeks a child has been able to show you that they know all these skills and they've got it and they have it down down down down down then they should be able to move in with the teacher recommendation or the council recommendation with their fifth grade teacher before they missed a couple of questions whatever i mean however it works we don't have currently more on-ramps and we need them um so all those pieces i think are great and i am all for training on effective math instructional practices i'm sure we're doing that i mean i we obviously are because our word those that statistics um say that i talked to

189a number of teachers and middle school teachers in particular said that they spend months and months focusing on those two critical skills and being fluent in some of those areas so um i have a billion pages of notes but let me cover like three more things um [Music] i'll jump in here with one before you get there so this plan does not offer um geometry in eighth grade true i think that is a question number one aaron that's probably to you yeah that is true i think for parents that would be really disappointed i think i think we're going to get pushed back from parents on that so i don't i was trying to look at how you can compact or summer bridge or whatever because i think it doesn't offer geometry in eighth grade

190but it offers something in some ways better by allowing you to double up in high school that's very nice i thought i read somewhere that we were still going to allow kids to accelerate not in sixth grade this is just allowing your genius grouping for sixth grade it's heterogeneous grouping for sixth grade if i'm understanding correctly heterogeneous grouping in sixth grade and then allowing acceleration to begin in seventh grade rather than sixth grade i think we will get huge pushback by parents if we choose not to and i'm i'm for strengthening math i'm all for all of it except not allowing students like the student last night at san juan hills high school that got five awards and i'm just guessing but likely he probably went into ninth grade ready for calculus to be clear

191there'll be something like mine that you're going to keep that so this is a math plan discussion right so maybe we can you know look at that how many students do we actually have that take geometry in eighth grade uh if we have a samples data set how successful were they and or if they were successful when did it trip them up because what happens is algebra 2 trig trips them all up if they don't have the foundations that you are all talking about so i think one way of looking at it is in order to get to the two advanced courses if you want to have room for two courses say both of those blue sections at the end of the bottom row in effect you have to double up or compact at least

192twice a question might be do you want to do all of the compaction in six seven eight and then no compaction in high school or does it make sense in a timeline of a student's career from six through the end of high school does it matter if the geometry happens in eighth grade or if it's being connected with algebra ii in the ninth grade if by the end of tenth grade they are at the exact same place that they would have been the other route except they had to go really really fast at the first years of sixth and seventh grade right when you're starting some topics that are some of the most advanced topics that are really in a sense not natural for the human brain um you would say i mean there are

193certain things counting is natural some of our algebraic thinking and our abstractions are really much more modern it's they're they're not natural and to compact twice in the six seven range rather than once in the middle grades and once at the start of high school um it just makes a flow that is about the same pace rather than really fast i think it's very reasonable to sell that kind of process to to parents and say what is your end goal um if you would like to have two years of ap math that's about as much as potentially uh some people actually end up doing three because if you take bc it in a sense counts as two and then you can also take stats so you can fit in all of that um in this

194other pass pathway it's just spreading out the rush rather than all rush at the middle grades it's uh a kind of a healthier year and a half per year pace rather than a two to two and a half per year that we're currently doing in sixth and seventh listen i agree with you but there are families that that is what they're about and they're great at it and they do not want their child to have to wait to take courses that they're ready for i not i'm not personally ready for any of this but but i think that there are families and i don't know why we can't do both why we can't add that accelerated in sixth grade and then keep moving on i thought that was a genius explanation because that to me

195is what parents do want to hear i think that explains it very well so i appreciate that explanation that we are all getting to the same point we're not it's just where you want to increase the compact yes and in high school it seems to make much more sense to me as a parent than it does to do it in in middle school and so many things are changing in their lives especially social emotional issues that we're having at the middle school what are we doing to kids maybe this is a far better pathway same same result at the end of the race right when we graduate we're getting to the end just like we did before we really aren't there really is no difference it's just where we're doing it along the path it

196just allows for movement in their schedule so if they take these courses then they can take some other classes there's always options as far as saddleback and taking other courses i'm assuming and this is exactly the conversation that the board set a goal to have the one we're having right now and and i think one of the many things that the team has talked about is that what's happening now and i think it's important um trustee hannicek talked about bringing back the data is that because kids are missing things in sixth grade they feel the pain of that later in high school so we're actually trying to solve the problem that they have in 10th and 11th grade in sixth grade proactively rather than doing all this compacting in middle school when their brains may

197not be fully developed in this they may not really be ready families may be ready but those kids may or may not be completely ready for this and we want to be able to stretch this out so that they are then developmentally ready and they don't have these stuck points later where they're all leveling down and they're not successful and have a million tutoring hours outside of school and so that's the problem we're trying to solve and this is the way to solve it and so my wondering is we probably need to bring back part two with some data around those issues along with this explanation writing to start to teach our families that it's not keeping your kids from accelerating it's just slowing the pace of this acceleration so they're truly ready for what

198again it's an algebra two problem i know the team can talk about that so trustee davis oh sorry what i really like about this is that there are multiple on-ramps right now we really only have the middle school on-ramp if you don't accelerate in middle school you can't accelerate and this allows you to maybe have a kind of a normal middle school math career but then zoom ahead in high school i really like that and i like that there are we're spreading it out more and we're but we're still getting to the same spot that the taking math 7 8 in 6 gets us to it just does it in a smoother way um and you know i think yes there are a small number of kids like this young man that we saw at

199san juan hills last night who might still jump past who might still do some skipping but i think that that could end up maybe being you know three kids for high school or three put kids per grade in a high school something like that um and as opposed to uh so many that we are now doing it with and and i mean we have seen this as superintendent mentions uh with kids that do get tripped up by over accelerating too early and as uh trustee uh castiano says we're we're putting all that acceleration in middle school where there's so much going on with kids here some of it's in middle school and some is in high school i i think it's great i think this is what you're presenting is good for the majority but

200i still feel and i'm gonna have to refer to my two kids um you'll frustrate them because when my daughter was in eighth grade science and and we didn't have accelerated science back then um she was very frustrated that the teacher took five days to explain the math to the students to be able to do the science project while she's trilling her thumbs so i mean i want to really talk have you look at how that works in terms of um with our students and when you present the data when you take a look at it if we do have more stu a a small segment but worthy enough of a number to be able to have a class for them to advance that's that's my thinking is this is for the majority but i'd

201still like to be able to keep those students that are just naturally innate like my son is just mapped all over the um that i don't want to frustrate them and hold them back i'd still like to have the opportunity for for that not encourage all of them but based on testing trustee hannah thoughts um so a couple things i as just i recall that geometry parent i'll call them the geometry parent that wanted that geometry in middle school their their goal is the calculus bc and it's and it's there so they can now even if your model now they can get it the other data points that we want to look at um looking at basically normal to high kids um is really i don't know if we can get access to how they're

202performing in college so they do this and in high school mom and dad pay for the tutors and they pay for them robustly um and then they get to college and where is perhaps they're falling behind i so appreciate the child that is the math phenom um and maybe when we look at i know in the past we were able to give certain students special dispositions right where they could in fact we had two students i remember when i was on pga they were at irvine already taking math um so i think perhaps we could look at some for that that one or two folks but i think foundationally i think uh obviously company business people whether you're doing starbucks starbuck barista for the summer on to advanced engineering um there was a gap for

203my sons in engineering they're brilliant but they were like they had never seen this course before we have not been foundationally doing uh that good a job um in this district um so i think we could probably can we move it on i'd be happy davis last last comment please well i am but i think the main issues is one one thing algebra in middle school if they take algebra in middle school then it's hard but if they take it in high school it's easy so there's different ways that that how it works and i think sixth grade there's a lot of random standards and i think that as you move from fifth grade and you move into sixth grade it's it's not a very easy math transition in my opinion so i love that

204we're having this conversation and i love that we are working and it's becoming a priority to strengthen math and to allow access for all students and help gather the foundation and the concepts so that it will move forward thank you um so step direction to staff here you just you've heard there's a concern about not being having the option for geometry if we don't then we need to be able to explain that to parents who are looking for high acceleration um question we are not looking at adopting the irvine model of math 123 are we no okay and there's none of this uh i know there's still state uh frameworks that are being discussed and everything this doesn't have anything to do with that at this point right we're putting our all of our eggs

205in the uci math project basket right that's where we're getting our training that's already is not uci math if they're there that would be okay but i'm thinking for the training um for the training and for some of the modules that we're talking about fourth and fifth quickly please quickly i know supplements what we've already been using whether it's a book or our own notes it has spots in it where it's like okay this is where you implement what you need like your notes or your practice so it's actually a supplemental to our teaching in our curriculum okay so and it's we're not trying to this this is all everything from the right math project is supplemental we aren't getting rid of any of our math textbooks we're not trying to adopt a new curriculum

206no no no it is supplemental and this will be looking at a math adoption coming up and i believe a pilot possibly in 23. okay um so the other thing uh obviously direction to step is we want to see some um data on you know how many kids are taking geometry how many kids are taking calculus i mean the numbers that was one of my first questions these all numbers look great why what's wrong keep going with what we're doing but if there's a way to get it we don't know whether how well they did in calculus maybe they all got c minuses or you know how i know state testing has kind of been off the board for a couple of years but you know how well are they doing this or how many

207people have to drop back uh that kind of stuff i think that would help us yeah i can tell you that some of the data we looked at at the beginning of this year i think it was around seven percent of our middle school students district why we're taking geometry seven percent seven percent and we offer that in all of our middle schools yes so i'd like to also add that in addition to the irvine math project we have our own stem coordinator karen gaffie who's been leading this work and just a few final thoughts on this is one you're right all the trustees are correct we would if we did make a change like this we would have to inform our parents um the other part was about i had the discussions that mr

208ruby talked about with those sixth grade in a prior district those six great parents when you backward map from where they want to get to the courses the higher math courses they were fine with it um and two it's also i mean three it's also about getting more kids into higher level math right it's not just focusing it's not a zero-sum game it's not about just the kids and calculus it's about getting more kids in math all four years because that's what colleges are telling us that's what companies are telling us that they want kids to continue to have that mathematical thinking all four years in high school so it's it's getting more kids in math as well and being successful and i have one more question dave chamberlain you were i went to your

209math pathways about 15 years ago and i have your original what you said we were going to do in middle school are you okay with this yeah i think more math pathways in high school is a good thing as long as the details are worked out okay got my vote okay uh blog state chamber that says okay superintendent sorry we're gonna look at the data and bring the data back and then the next time this actually is just a preliminary plan um the next time we will ask the board to take action so that we know from a policy perspective which way we'll go in so we will bring back the data bring back the numbers make sure you understand what's underneath this before we're asking make a policy decision do we happen to know

210the date on how many middle school students take algebra in eighth grade i knew we i know you said the geometry but do we have the algebra stat i do not but i can get that for you great thank you it's about eight to ten percent in geometry might be seven percent this year it's about thirty percent uh algebra one students in eighth grade and then yeah it's 30 and 35 and about 50 to 55 percent take nothing that's kind of so we already have about 40 to of our students are in an accelerated pathway right geometry or out right thank you i remember when we had algebra 1a and 1b when you split algebra into 2. that was old standards yeah that was all okay on to um can i ask for laurence's to

211give a comment that she shared with me really quickly okay sure don't worry [Music] so i'm an ap calculus teacher at san clemente high school and i've never come to one of these formulas so thank you so much for tuning in this is a fun one it's very fun speaking my language but i have been a teacher in the district for probably 18 years i have taught ap calculus for the past 12 years and the number of juniors in ap calculus afb has i have probably the top 80 percent are fantastic the other 20 struggle every single time and it's just a memory dump every time they take a test so it's pure memorization and they're having a really hard time conceptualizing it and i feel like calculus is the first year where they're like

212what so um i also know being a department chair that the highest drop classes on campus are algebra two trig honors and pre-calc honors because once again the kids have pushed so fast through the math classes that they just can't handle the rigor and that happens across the board that all the department chairs say the same thing that we have to have enough build the master schedule so the honors classes are so high and the regular classes are low numbers so then we have enough room to drop them back drop they have some place to follow so i'm all for the proponent of starting at sixth grade being more foundational and building those strong number sense that our kids do not have to be able to then accelerate at a better rate than what's going

213on right now okay thank you we'll add the drop numbers i would love to see that we'll add the drop numbers sounds like we have an amazing collection of math teachers here too thank you very much okay we're going to quickly go through 15 a three this is instructional materials recommended for adoption for elementary history social science grades kindergarten through um [Music] grade five this is uh dr merwin thank you president mcnicholas trustee superintendent superintendent tom royalty and thank you for that time for that great discussion appreciate the previous item so we present item three instructional materials recommended for adoption elementary history social science grades kindergarten v5 just wanted to very quickly reinforce some of the data that's featured in the board report as with any pilot we surveyed teachers families and students for feedback

214given the fact this pilot was district-wide this school year we were able to survey district wide all families all upper grade students in grades three through five we surveyed all teachers twice once in november and second time in january as we shared in the exhibit the results from each survey demonstrated a majority of teachers families and students responding favorably towards studies weekly these results were then presented to the imrc on april 12 2022 during that imrc meeting a demo lesson was provided by mr steve seilek who you've already seen earlier tonight with the math and also miss jennifer pine who two two tremendous teachers from molten elementary school and the imrc members at that meeting then asked them questions regarding the curriculum after that discussion the immersive voted unanimously in favor of recommending studies weekly

215for approval for the vote of 10 i's zero knows and four absent so to help answer any trustee questions i am again joined by assistant superintendent kerry johnson who is also the non-voting iron mercy chairperson and executive director peggy bearst and again we are pleased to announce that mr silac and ms miss pine have joined us this evening uh and are available to answer any questions as they presented that demo lesson to the imrc so we're happy to answer any questions staff recommends approval um do we have any cards on this no trustees comments questions amy um at first i was um having the where's presented um i wanted a textbook i guess i'm like really old uh after interacting with this being able to use the links that you provided us i am very

216taken with this product i think it's excellent it's engaging it is modern and it's how young people are learning it's the type of things that i just like how fluid it is as well um and i like even if you were kind of an english language learner your your language base wasn't english wasn't there quite yet to have the audio and to move along with when you're reading especially i had a non-reader until he was about fourth grade so the whole product i really um i am so grateful that you all piloted for over a year i guess a year and the entire school district is obviously already being used in irvine and newport and other school districts so i would like to move the item i think it's excellent i want to get going

217and i'm really sorry that we had to even miss a year and not get it out there so i would make a motion to move so move the item second okay uh moved by trustee hannah second by trustee castillos is there any other comments or questions i just have a quick comment um i think it's great and i look i'm looking forward to more training for our teachers for next year i know that was a little bit of a glitch this year and i really look forward to more training because i think as more teachers have more training and the engagement on it i appreciate studies weekly taking the teachers thoughts and and helping pivot and navigating adding and strengthening and i i agree with trustee hanicek that it is moving in the right direction

218for um for what's needed for kids today so okay so it's uh we have a motion and a second we can do a voicemail on this right all in favor say aye aye all any opposed say no motion passes six zero thank you very much we're on to fifteen 1584 thank you trustees visit oh you're welcome um this is what i've been thank you teachers they know me better can i just thank you all again for uh the support uh for moulton and for wood canyon that was very good we appreciate that the teachers felt you know like they were part of something especially when you showed up and then the board showed up and then of course the superintendent so and you were teaching math while we were there yeah you weren't teaching i

219[Applause] okay this is to me this is other than the math this is the most important thing tonight um well i shouldn't say that everything that was important president list i'd just like to mention we have nine more items and it's 10 20. and i know this is important i'm not trying to say it's not i just want to mention it to the board members and staff that we still have a long way to go yes um are there any uh mercedes interest and superintendent are there any items later on here that could be pushed to our next meeting if we ran into a pretty sure not i'm pretty sure not i think the jpa has a timeline mr hampton i think all the rest are clarks yeah and they should go most of them

220should go relatively quickly as far as the presentation and a lot of them are items are necessary for our budget process and things like that okay but isn't 15a eight the lca i mean that's just a information only yeah we have to do it tonight because you have to do it over two meetings so it has to be done tonight it's done the final in june before the budget okay but we are right now we're on facilities gold's update presentation thank you i will uh go through this relatively briefly so this agenda item also includes a more comprehensive narrative of the long-term facilities goal for people's reading pleasure but i'm not going to go through that a lot of what the presentation has contains information that's in the narrative so next slide so the board

221earlier this year passed the facilities bill to create a multi-year facilities proposal that addresses possible solutions to our facilities needs next slide and so in in keeping with that we've broken it down into major categories that we'll address throughout this presentation that is meant to be the multi-pronged pres approach to addressing our facilities needs next slide so next slide so one of the areas that's important with reviewing facilities needs in the school district is to look at the capacity and as the narrative describes as the school district grows and as any school district grows you reach this maximum uh your peak enrollment and then you have a decline which is what we're in now and then you get into a period of equilibrium where you have a normal rise in flow in students but you

222really you never really get that back to that point where you're your maximum student we see that in areas in the district like ascencia we see the new development going you see this uh spike in students over the uh over the first 12 years of the of the development and then you see it go into that decline and then the equilibrium the district overall is kind of in that we're in that decline phase right now and then we'll be entering equilibrium sometime in the next 10 years so it's important to look at school facilities determine what your needs are over that long term uh lifespan and right size yourself into that um to where to do what you need as far as equilibrium next slide so with that we've been working with a consultant to

223help identify the capacity of the school district later this year in december we'll be bringing the analysis for the board to consider at that time next slide so looking uh the next important thing i think a trustee maybe had mentioned it earlier in the board meeting that it's critical that school districts review the needs for bonds bonds are the you know one of the major ways for communities to invest in their local schools so as as being part of the bond measure will be the bond approach will be multi-pronged multi-year so a few years ago the district triads handed a district-wide bond measure and failed and the change was approached to more of a regional targeted bond measures so the long-term approach uh keeping with what we're looking at tonight is in the lease of

224viejo and in david hill's high school is to kind of look at each high school family and focus on those areas have regional bond measures and work through by grade level so our focus at daniel's high school is on the high school alone and then the next step within that family of schools would be to focus on middle schools and in elementary schools within that area so for the most part that's the general plan and as mentioned in the narrative that things can change over time as demographics change and people's feelings about things change and grassroot efforts that come up uh as we've seen with the lisa uh the city of san diego and the parents that live in that area so next slide so focusing on daniel's high school that recent resolutions that were

225passed by the board to focus on addressing the seismic uh conditions of the school site they did on the av ab 300 list where the construction at the time the school was built it met dsa and it still meets dsa based on the type of the codes that were in place at the time but now it doesn't mean seismic code so it's important for us to review that building and go through the steps for seeking seismic hardship funding which will be part of the funding that goes along with the funding that could be generated by a potential bond so next slide so the next slide shows the process that we're in phase one i'm looking at the eligibility and all of these steps require a submittal to dsa and then dsa writes back the concurrence

226letter so we've gone through step one and have received our concurrence letter from dsa and step two we've completed the submission and now we're waiting for the concurrence letter to be received we expect it in about six weeks and then the step three phase four would be dependent upon um the uh fund passing so that we would have the funding to be able to move forward with like a complete design of the building to submit to dsa and that would be then we would then be granted the site uh the psychic hardship money and that would be part of the later we'll talk about part of the funding sources for addressing the needs of danielle's high school next slide so then on the elisa viejo by measure there was a resolution passed to consider reviewing

227looking at the boundaries of the city and determining the viability of a mind in that area earlier we had the item on establishing the sfid and then we'll also be looking at a future date the finalizing the formation of ncfid and the draft bond language to be reviewed by the board that would be then and then the focus on that would be for the schools that reside within the city boundaries at least of viejo that are within the school district's pathways next slide so there's a correction on this the third bullet should say may 25th and the fourth bullet should say june 15th so we've uh we've compressed the schedule for every city diego to line it up with dana hills high school so on may 25th so the board's already received the results of

228the opinion poll on danny hills high school on may 25th they'll receive the opinion poll on only san diego bond and i keep calling alisa miguel high school at least at diego high school because i kept getting the city confused with high school so anyway i want to point out in here that we've compressed the schedule so those dates were corrected we'll correct the presentation so that when they're written formal on the website when people go back to look at it it'll reflect may 25th and june 15th so then next slide so the um as mentioned earlier about having the grassroots efforts that come up that usually then turns into a task force that is then working on communicating with uh and encouraging the placement of a balance a measure on the ballot and so

229there are task force also in the city of elisa dejo and within the elise miguel high school boundary and in dana hills working on understanding what the bond measures in those areas can do for the schools and what kind of projects can be completed next slide as i mentioned in the the narrative that's in this agenda item the uh all of this goes without saying that we would be working with our stakeholders in those areas and working with city leaders and community members and parents and students on the efforts that were undertaken to meet the needs of our facilities in these areas so the recommendation is to is part of the long-term facilities plan is keeping the concept of regional targeted bonds uh and beginning with high school boundaries with all funds going to the

230high schools appropriately science for the needs of the site and we'll talk later about the impact of the polling on the size of bondage and how that impacts the ability to do projects and we'll talk about that later and then move on to the middle and uh the middle schools or elementary to a eighth grade within those same school families and then go on to that other high school boundaries and some can happen concurrently depending on the polling results within each of these areas and then doing it my um highest need first and then moving forward through all the schools and again as i mentioned earlier these things can change over time this is a long-term plan and we know that people's feelings and about things can change this is what we would recommend at

231this time so next slide so on state matching money earlier kevin gordon did mention that one of the proposals with the budget for next year is to put more money into prop 51 without having to do a state ballot or state measure and so that would go a long way for us because we have money that's in the pipeline so this is money we've already received that's already earmarked for a classroom building at daniels high school to begin that data house project next slide this is money that we expect to receive uh from prop 51 later this year next slide and this is the money that would be dependent on either a measure on the ballot or the state providing additional funding and if it happens the way uh kevin gordon had mentioned we're already

232in line for the 17.7 million and so potentially that could come to us very soon sometime next year as well which would be very very helpful so next slide so as we go through these are each of the main categories of efforts involved in addressing our facilities needs so the next one is surplus property utilizing surplus property for either a school district needs or repurposing it and then investing the proceeds from that repurposing into our schools so we have three properties right now uh paseo de clean this property laguna niguel is in a development it's being developed right now by the school district and then we would sell that project that bid that out once the city's approved so it'll be a city approved project ready to build and we'd sell it and then the

233proceeds were voted into down hills middle school property's already zoned for 30 dwelling units i believe the city has now increased that to 33 units possibly there's been discussions about that and we expect the city to approve this sometime later in this calendar year we have the los ramblas property in san juan capistrano where the process now officiated rfp for a sale of the property as is and then considering the work that's been done on the property the due diligence and the that there's been a five zero vote by the city council to explore developing 45 single-family homes on the property we're hoping this provides an opportunity for us to receive some funding sooner than later and if the rfp falls through it the offers aren't acceptable we can reject all offers and then go

234ahead and purchase the property ourselves and go through the surplus property or utilize it for school purposes but that will be determined at that time and that would be by october of this year and then the last one is the south transportation yard and data point and this one is under lease and they're in the due diligence phase with toll brothers they've been making their due diligence payments that are non-refundable and they are with the city of dana point right now and they're considering the approval of a 356 unit apartment complex on the property and once that is finalized at the point it becomes final and toll brothers can be can begin building and generating revenue from the property that we would start receiving the lease payments and then that money is also earmarked for

235issuing a cop to invest in danielle's high school as well and then in the future other data point schools that was it's a 99 year lease that's occurring so there's several opportunities over the life of the least issue bonds to invest in the data point schools so now getting into the specifics next slide next slide of daniel hills high school the potential funding for database high school so this pie chart provides a breakdown of the funding sources for what we believe would be replacing danny hill's high school after we received the uh concurrence letter from dsa we believe they're going to be a agree an agreement that it's more expensive to retrofit the building versus replacing it so the idea is to uh the current estimate for replacing is 285 million dollars with the sources

236coming from the uh the pie chart that you'll see so the estimated cop from the southwestern lease 40 million i've been state reimbursement state funds on hand at 24 million uh the eight percent that's already the building with one of the first buildings that would go that's being planned right now then the seismic hardship funding 32.6 million state modernization money of 11.3 million and then new construction matching money is 8.5 million and then a local bond measure that would go along with all these other funding sources would require to be 168 million dollars so next slide given that and given the results of the polling the polling showed that twenty dollars per hundred thousand dollars of assessed value was the most viable which would generate 96 million dollars the measure would have to be at

23734 to generate the total amount necessary for complete replacement so that's one of the um the ironies and one of the difficulties that occurs with bondage is the first you may not be able to do everything that you want to do based on what the community is willing to pay for so it's important that we communicate that very clearly community communicating expectations in what we can do with the money so that the choices are go for the amount that can do it all but it doesn't pull as high or do the amount that pulls high get what you can and then do then what you could do is you could look at the project because these are very high level estimates and you you don't know what the economy is going to be in the

238future and then you would try to do the project to complete it completely with the amount of funding that would we believe that polls that would pass so the 20 dollars per 100 000 would but we wouldn't start communicating with the community you may not be able to get the complete building you thought you could get things like that so very critical to communicate that but we've had cases where i don't want to wish a recession on anybody but we've had cases where construction prices plummet because and that's the school districts have been benefited from the the great recession uh which so let's hope for a recession i know but i'm saying so but that that's what's so important about these things is these are these bonds would be sold over five year period and

239a lot can happen during that time frame both up and down in the construction market so even if it were at 34 dollars you would still be established expectations and explaining people that things can happen over this time frame of these bond projects so that's what's important to clarify so next slide so the next slide so right now the facilities department is working with stakeholders in the task force at with david hill's high school and developing the master plan and developing the education specifications for the new buildings that would be put in place if the bond measure were to pass and be able to meet the needs of the seismic analysis of the building next slide so just a brief summary of the two-story classroom building edition architect was awarded on november 3rd 2021 it's

240currently in design development phase we expect it to go to dsa in mid-august and we did by march of 2023 to get the plant the stamped plans out of dsa and those plans would be i think they're good for four years three years so the plans are good for three years but if all goes according to plan the plans would be submitted out for bid and construction could start by may of 2023 completion of construction by spring of 2025. again if things don't go according to plans the plans are good for three years next slide best slide of all [Music] this is the next one the next slide is actually the best but no speakers on this um wait there's somebody so yeah yeah i think some members of the audience just wanted to reflect

241that they didn't hit the our new policy at the time to check in and pull up blue cards so they would have spoken they didn't get it no i think they signed up for a five not eight four okay okay so trustees questions comments off amy i actually have a question um so as we go back into the cycles again because this is the work that we have to do um task force farming task force are we already have a system or a person in place identified where i could start parking people who might be interested in the fall of 2022 for example the san clemente high school task force where where should i send them right now the focus is on daniels okay well you had okay i will park them at my house

242then until you are ready um to go to that other side we can refer them to john forney john forney i have a question on slide number 10. that was the seismic mitigation [Music] there it is there it is okay so i was a little confused on this so we don't have dsa concurrence i thought we did yeah that was so the presentation had to be uh corrected because the the application has been submitted but they're still waiting for the dsa but we so we still don't know that dsa agrees with the replacement right okay we're we're assuming that we notifications point to they will agree to it because they look at the they would have to disagree with the engineering analysis reports okay so lpa and canada believe that right it's a replacement okay

243and then on step three um we ca this kind of it's a little catch 22 to me because um we it says we need to pass a bond in order to even start the design and construction and specification for the project right because it's it's extremely expensive but it's hard to get people to support a bond when you don't have a design and construction and specification plans you'll have like the you'll have a master plan which is what they're working on and then you then you would then do the design of that after that after you do yes we kind of have some preliminary designs i mean the map that you've been showing that shows right kind of proposed layouts so that's kind of the preliminary yes it's important to split the two this is

244for re um addressing the seismic hardship application and then we have the master planning that's going on for uh being able to communicate what will happen if a bond passes what what it will look like in general terms this is actually would be the step three would be as part of the application an architect designing the entire designing the entire school and that's what you say is expensive and takes a long time um it could take half a year to do that that work but that's for the application process so we do have the nice thing about even what mr warren was talking about with the funding potentially hardship goes to the very front of the line so if the bond was to pass we can engage with the architect to do a complete set

245of drawings that would be submitted to dsa kind of like what we're we're doing right now with pa3 school rianda and then um as far as like showing what we would do that's part of the master planning that we would bring the preliminary results of the master planning to the next board meeting to start sharing that information out okay so as in as in june that's in the correct meeting okay right okay it just seems uh hard to me to be able to convince people to to vote for a bond when we don't have a design but you have to pass the bond to have the money to make the design yeah that's pretty typical how we would do it you wouldn't do a full set of drawings before because they are extremely expensive it

246could cost close to five million dollars to put that kind of package together as for the design before you even start for the full set it'd be like a full set of drawings this is what it would take to build the school that you would go out to bid with and that's what's required from opsc to be able to get your hardship seismic funding from them okay okay i'm just thinking from our last two bonds we did not have full design specifications but we had our facilities concepts yeah so it's very important that the community can see a master plan of the site and what that will show is where the buildings would be what type of buildings they'll do the full education specifications so people know exactly what we would be trying to do

247and put it out there the step three here is just the full set of blueprints that no one would ever see or understand other than the builders and so forth it's how you would actually do it then okay correct all right then on to the funding sources um this is slide 16 and 17. 16 is we have in our pocket and that is going to build a two-story classroom i'm disappointed that we had got a got the construction bid in november and nothing's going to happen i mean the next step isn't until this august for the the new class ability at davey was high school yeah i can explain what we've been doing so when the when the board approved in november to award the architect we immediately engaged with the architect set up our

248site um working with dr baker and working with the site and started the design process so that takes time to develop the drawings to where is it going to be located we immediately went out to the site what's the best location potholing is you know looking for utilities and so forth so currently we're in the design development so we have a rendering we have the square footage we have everything then it'll go to the construction document phase and then from there we'll submit to dsa so this is the the typical process in developing a building that takes nine months it it takes a while yes okay all right um then the next uh next slide 17 the um 6.88 million that we are in line for does not require either extra money that um or

249a new bond right okay and that at this point we don't have that's not designated for a specific site use is that true correct okay but we have it so there is a notation under here that we're working with food nutrition services it could be for a new central kitchen right we're looking at the potential for that but okay okay but that would be that would have come to the board for approval and then um the rest of it were the ones on the next slide that would be if either the state would have to pass a new bond and sell or the state like they said just adds five add money to the facilities so we're in line for this too okay then i want to go on to the chart the new chart

250this is uh 23 i think the pie chart ask a quick question yes please um so back to the uh new building that we are building um that's with the 23 million um with inflationary dollars the way they are how are we doing and if we fall short um is there one of these other that we just touched on that we could draw from to help complete the project or are we i know we had to down scale the building it will not be commensurate with what we were able to do um at the optimum bomb time which we should have passed in two years ago um at tesoro san clemente and san juan hills so i i just want to make sure we're covered right when we go when we finally go to construction

251in there right so in in the design and part of that process is is constantly re-engaging in the cost estimates and making sure that we're you know thinking of any type of inflations construction costs index going up so we stayed within that budget one of the things that we could do is always value engineer down if things were to come in a little high so we're not dependent on depending on other funding sources okay i mean i guess that's something we'll have to be mindful of others will end up with them and it was a very similar process we had to do with the stem building right got it that's right has it tripled because it looks like san clemente high school a two-story building was eight million so now this two-story building is 24

252million has have the cost tripled in these last what five years the the amount that shows for the for uh san clemente high school and the projects that we already received that was matching money that we received it's not the total cost originally we thought the projects would be close to 15 million dollars each which i that was for 24 classrooms but those came in less but even though they came in less the state will still reimburse us on our original estimates that we submitted so it's actually good that it showed higher but the projects were closer to probably 12 13 million dollars so it's 13 million dollars to get 24 classrooms and now it's going to be 23 million dollars to get 14 classrooms 14 classrooms they just yes it's difficult but what were

253they saying switch and flip that was a that was a matter of thing okay all right so i just clarification the last time we saw this kind of graph was our october workshop right and the at that time the estimate just so everybody knows what to fully replace dana was 200 million right and then so the way that estimate was prepared is it was it was very high level it wasn't as detailed as this estimate was how we did it was looked at what the square footage expectations for a 2000 student high school and then multiplied by the average construction cost at the time and so now it's so it's basically construction costs that have come up this is a little bit this is more accurate but still again it's a high level estimate right

254and and two things one is all the other pieces of that pie didn't go up and our part that we have to come up with did go up right so so yeah yeah none of those went up so the 24 million stays the same um there is some some flexibility i mean we are being conservative with the estimates of the cop from the southwest yard right right and as amy keeps pointing out to me this is still the best deal people are going to get if we if we went out and said we don't we haven't we don't have the cop from the bus yard we don't have the 23 million in hand we don't know whether we'll get sites that we punch if we wanted to go out and just rebuild data without this

255it's 285 million not 168. so this is kind of the best bargain those voters are going to get we're trying to maximize other funding sources minimize the burden on the taxpayer okay i think i said online uh christy davis did you have another comment page 18 the pending new approved statewide bond these projects here are they all complete yes yes and these are all completed projects so the stem building just opened new heart opened earlier and then these modernizations have taken place right so why is it pending new approved statewide bonds that the state ran out of money so you can still submit to get reimbursed so prop 51 doesn't have any more money they more people go get on the list to get money than they have money for so now the state like

256what kevin gordon had mentioned we'll go find more of that more on the list rather than casting another so this 17 million here that we've already paid we're just hoping that the state is going to reimburse no this this is money that we get in addition this is not a reimbursement this is us matching money okay so these projects are complete prices are we paid for it this is the matching money that we're waiting to hope to get they could use for other facilities projects so they're not pending new they're just complete they're just money it's just waiting for the state to have money to provide the matching funds yes and we're already on that list it's not like as soon as it's passed then we gotta get on the list these guys are pretty

257good yeah right right the board um jesse jones were you going to yes i'd like to move uh that we extend the meeting for two hours so 1 am i need a second move my trusty gym a second to by justin all in favor say aye i'll just say no okay passes six zero hopefully it won't be that long um any other comments or questions trustee bullockus i have a question on this is like a side note but it is on your slide number 17. um and i understand in terms of food and nutrition services with what is you know now being asked of them is this actually an expansion to their kitchen that would be considered or is there no space i've visited their kitchen in a few years um would you literally have

258to move them somewhere and give them it would be an expansion within the existing footprint of the building but it would require some programs to be moved somewhere else but there are already programs that are being contemplated being relocated okay so they could remodel if you use the program i just hadn't heard the conversation and saw this and sorry thanks yeah i was just going to remind that all of this would come back to the board for approval including the bids come in for the building that would come back next spring for you to then approve the build the bid before we start building the building okay um i think this is a lot of stuff i've tried to digest it and i passed it out to people to try to explain to other people

259how this is working it's really tough for me because we really have to do this i don't see any way that we can't we have to put this on the belt my opinion um just for the the seismic the seismic steps we're going through um and that's really more of a discussion i guess for the next item but i the increasing cost is disappointing and our pulling results seem to think we don't aren't going to be wouldn't be able to pass one a bond to get that full number to full amount but i would like to unless there's other comments let's go on to the next item and maybe hear some input from other people he said we're on to uh 1585 this is a resolution 202 2 1 2 2 6 7 resolution of

260the board of trustees the cup stone unified school district of the intention to form a school facilities improvement district sfi 2 danny hills high school seismic safety project mark do you want to say a few words all right so this is similar to the item that the ward passed earlier for forming an sfid for the alisa viejo area bond there's maps in the room now that show that this sfid formation would be equivalent to the data hills high school attendance pattern so it's easy to describe that one um and it's there's maps that show the location within the district and then a close-up of the boundary itself data the sfid number two for dana hills high school is the maps on the right thank you mr stage we have speakers on this yes we have

261four speakers and we have three in person and one online okay here's our katie anderson kara davis and emily okay emily white so the first speaker is katie anderson thank you go ahead katie good evening superintendent and board of trustees my name is katie anderson and i'm the incoming ptsa president at dana hills high school but tonight i'm speaking of a member as a member of the dana point community and soon to be empty nester i am very concerned that our school has is in declining enrollment and every prior attempt to approve a bond to rehab or re uh rebuild dana hills high school has failed i understand that one of your main concerns regarding moving this bond forward is whether or not you we think you can get it we can get it passed

262based on the polling data we are about in the same place regarding voter support as with previous bond attempts however i would like to argue that there are some key differences with this proposed bond that you must consider number one the money would go directly to dana hill's high school and cannot be used elsewhere for other projects number two the cost of reconstructing our school is going up this problem isn't getting any easier to solve and it has to get solved number three there are a total of six funding sources that make up the proposed budget and the bond accounts for 59 percent of the overall budget we have a time sensitive opportunity to mat to get the matching money from the state based on the seismic replacement hardship funding that could account for 12

263percent of the overall cost of the project we can only get the matching funds if we pass the bond as far as i know the communities that feed dana hills high school do not pay melloroos and the funds that provide basic maintenance for our school are inadequate i understand that a major hurdle for some home home owners is the issue of paying more taxes i believe in taking a step back to get perspective before deciding for myself if a proposed bond makes sense so here are some of the issues that i believe provide context based on our local area regarding taxes homeowners in lagera ranch pay melloroos that could range anywhere maybe on the low end from eighteen hundred dollars per year to on the high end as much as seven thousand dollars per year

264depending on the assessed value of their homes in contrast we are potentially asking homeowners in our community to support a bond that would cost the average taxpayer 127 dollars per year for the twenty dollars per hundred thousand uh dollar assessed value option or about two hundred and fifteen dollars per year for the thirty four dollar per hundred thousand dollar assessed value option which is really the one we need to get done not to make light of this but if you think about it 215 per year that is two tanks of gas in my honda odyssey in today's prices i am behind this proposed bond 100 and i will do everything i can to educate our community about what it includes and how we can all benefit from it even homeowners without children in the public

265school system even if you don't believe that a brand new high school will raise the value of your home i promise you that the family who buys your home will put our public school system at the top of their priority list i look forward to the day when our school facilities actually reflect top-notch education being delivered by our phenomenal teachers and staff at danny hills high school i hope that you will give us the chance to pass this bond and our children deserve a chance to fight for this investment in dana hills thank you try to be quick um i think i came to my first board meeting year many years ago and dana hill's improvements was on the schedule then so i don't know how long that game has been working a long time

266to get these improvements through and just being a layperson it feels very confusing why this can't get done are and it also feels confusing that the only solution is a bond and it's the only thing that you guys ever come to us with and it just if if we couldn't get the bond passed in 2020 i mean now when gas is 639 a gallon in some places and we're looking at record inflation it seems impossible that we could we could ask the taxpayers to pay even more for this these improvements that dana hill's high does need and i guess i'm just encouraging the board i probably sound a little naive but just to think out of the box a little bit the only option we ever have is to form a task force to see

267how we can push up another tax on the taxpayers of orange county who already shoulder the burden of a lot of this state when it comes to taxes but we never think about our i've never heard a proposal for task force for any other options for providing funding or raising funding and so i would like to encourage the board and our administrators to think about that too because it does seem pretty impossible that a bond measure could could get past however i am of the mind that dana hills really does need to be a priority and um i just can't believe that it's been it's just years and years and years of this as a taxpayer it just doesn't make sense to me we should be able to offer a solution to the taxpayers of

268dana hills a lot faster than that and it and the solution doesn't always have to be coming to us to ask us for more families are already squeezed and it does seem like well it's just a little bit of money but that's what they say in the state about every tax that they give us it's just a little bit a little bit but those little trips is like chinese water torture it just adds up to a lot so i um as a as a citizen of orange county i really do want the board to figure out a way to improve dane hill's high and i wish it could include some other options rather than coming to the taxpayer again there just has to be a way to do this but i think everybody who's advocating

269for the school and again i definitely support um working to get the students the improvements that they need and deserve thank you very much and on my docket i have next as emily white but did emily thank you so much and online we have michelle colossal campbell good evening board of trustees thank you for taking these first steps in a potential bond measure for both dana hills high school seismic safety project and the aliso vijo community bond i thought this item was going to be before the other one when i wrote my speech out before bonds can be put on the ballot sfids need to be created to give us this option please pass both resolution number 2122-67 and i appreciate you having passed 2122-68 to create both sfids number two and three respectively tonight

270by doing so it gives us the option to move forward but it does not bind you into doing so so please pass this resolution thank you trustees comments questions dusty hannick thank you um i will move the item but i also have a comment so i appreciate how confusing school funding is um and so we have thought outside the box and that was that slide that showed the myriad of funding streams and properties that we have leveraged to create come together and uh make this a possibility and that the taxpayer would be assessed as low as possible another thing that clark has always said it's very confusing in the state of california how we fund our schools that basically i'm going to paraphrase if you can help me out schools are built either by melloroos

271or builders fees right basically but the way i see california set up after that it's time for the community that reinvests so as we've seen with all other school districts maybe except for one in the state of california um our communities then get that message they understand what they're investing in and they have passed one two three or four multiple bonds so i think we've got the point uh and i respect that it's confusing we've got a story that we need to tell better um but we as a board at least in my perspective knowing that this is the only way you can modernize and and give students the appropriate learning environment and staff that they should be in so that they can be competitive with all the other school districts this is our only

272option so again circling back around what martha and i have come to the conclusion because of this myriad of different funding sources that you have put together this will be probably it ever the lowest assessed um bond that a household will ever have to pay so in that vein this is what we do this is the work we do to support children so again i make a motion to move resolution number two one two two dash six seven second uh moved by trustee hanchak second by trustee castianos um any other comments or questions we'll do a roll call vote resolution student advisor claudia hi trustee bulacus upstate trustee castianos trustee davis trustee hannicek hi trustee jones aye trustee mcnicholas aye motion passes four one one with a preferential vote to buy a student advisor podium

273i say that right mrs space it should be four one zero one it's not right zero one zero one thank you there's still another one here on 15a6 this is the first reading of a potential bond measure school facilities improvement district number two potential ballot measure first this is park hampton again thank you actual wording of a potential bond right so this is actually the so the last item was to the intent to form the boundary where the bond would take place this is actually the language of the bond the tax rate statement the project list the ballot statement so this is this would be the document that would be delivered to the registrar of voters to initiate the measure and have it placed on the ballot this is just this is a draft reading

274of it trustees have any questions we do have a legal counsel bond council here to answer any of your questions okay do we have any speakers on this mistake we do have one speaker michelle also campbell's with us online hi michelle michelle go ahead now i have done interesting evening superintendent board of trustees tonight i am speaking only as a community member within the dana hills high school boundaries dana hills high school opened in 1973 the year after i was born our school is 49 years old coming up on its last year of its fifth decade just like all of us who have reached this age work is needed definitely true for dana hills which was identified on the av 300 list of buildings that while built to the seismic standard of the time are

275now not considered up to the seismic standards of today as a result of 300 if we pass a bond we qualify for additional matching funds for the seismic hazards grants last fall the projected costs for this project were 40 less than they are today the issue we face is all costs are going up and we'll continue to do so we can't afford to wait to some unknown point in the future we need to do this work now with the proposed rate of twenty dollars per hundred thousand of assessed value we do not raise enough to complete rebuilding the school but it gives us something to start with and build trust with our community as we show what amazing things are happening both inside our classrooms and on the outside thank you so much thank you

276michelle trustees any question this we don't need to we don't need to take action this is providing feedback true yeah okay trustees jesse bullockus i have a question in regards to i'm trying to find the page here this two-story building at dana hills that we had already november 21st approved we're moving forward on and whatever page that's on here um there it is slide number 28. we're moving forward on that and that is related to the 300 um the ab 300 listing of that one building that we're building so the the the the new building that's being planned for yes so that is purely classroom so it's start moving kids into a new building but this particular building would replace the portables that are on them the kids would move out of those old portables

277of this building okay so it was only to move portables and not the building that because not the whole school was listed as abg right 300 is the main building in the gymnasium so but the main building is like almost the entire school okay okay thank you jesse james uh yeah so um trustee bullockus what we approved on that new classroom building was the architectural plants not the building of the building just the just the development of architectural plants that's that uh was mentioned earlier um i and also the speaker said that the building is a danny hills high school building it's really really just a single building with some portables um is not built to today's seismic standards not built today's to today's california school seismic standards it is probably built to the same

278standards or better standards than home construction today but not to um school standards i mean i i don't need clarification on that i'm just clarifying that they're not it's not the same thing there's school seismic standards and there's everybody else and schools have to be built to a higher standard so i just wanted to clarify that and i also wanted to address mrs davis's comments earlier i don't like to call people out in the audience but i think she i think she's a brave person and can take it um [Music] i i don't like this alternative either i think this is a horrible alternative i don't like the idea of bonds but the way california uh structures school finance is there's no other way to build or replace or refurbish schools there just is no

279other way in school budget school budgets are very specifically done in such a way that it really only allows well i kind of call it a starvation budget it allows for salaries and books and you know heating and lighting there isn't any extra money and we would have to in order to do the construction work that we need to do in this district we would have to stop educating kids and even at that it would take us many years to do the construction we need because the needs are so vast and the amount of money we get from the dis the state is so small um and uh so it's it's a horrible way to finance schools but that is indeed what the state of california tells us we must do they do not provide

280any money for it so i agree with you it's bad but it is there is no choice so that's all i want to say thanks jesse balcas okay so i'm going to ask for your forgiveness because i did ask the questions um as we all do prior to this meeting to delineate so that i had a clarification on the two-story building um and the total redo and i'm sure you answered it but you know what i realized tonight i didn't have time to leave it just been so crazy visiting the schools and everything so in regards to this um as trustee jones said we approve that we're going to have a plan but of course i'm looking at this and it comes down here completion of construction you know 2025 so i was thinking we

281were already on board with that but it is because of the um ab-300 that we're asking for the seismic bond for the whole thing so if we get this approved and then we go out for a bond i mean would we go and just build this or wouldn't we want to then coordinate the whole thing and maybe put those monies can you explain a little bit then um and i'm sorry if you could just indulge me a little bit i'm i'm not up to speed so i i would i would look at the 24 or look at the 24 million i'm going to get confused with 24 versus the number of classrooms the classrooms that are being built with this new building are like the new buildings that we built at san clemente high school

282tesoro and san juan hills high school they helped put kids in a much better learning environment so this building will put dana hills high school students in a much better learning environment as we and be one of the steps towards having all students in a much better learning environment and replacing danielle's high school with a with buildings that meet current seismic standards so i guess it would mean seismic stance that that one two-story building that we're looking to oh yeah every building that's built has to meet uh dsa the latest dsa seismic standards okay thank you the clarified process so the board approved the architectural plans master plans being done right you then once you have all that done you then go out to bid on the actual building and those bids have to come

283back to this board for the board to then approve actually building a building correct the first the first step after the plans is to go to dsa and dsa stamps and those are the plans that go out to bid and then the board would have to approve the lowest responsible bidder to create to actually build a physical building so that right now the board's only approved the plans to be developed and the i think part of the answer the question is if we did not pass bond would we still build that building and i think the answer is yes we would still build that building but it is one component of the overall rebuild and would i think we're calling it a language arts building and right now all the language arts are in the

284main building so they're but we're leaving the portables so we'd be taking out all the portables on the corner so that that could then be part of the master planning correct and that's one of the reasons it or that we can do this rebuild without relocating students somewhere else we can do that that's part of the overall plan yes it's a it's a really for replacing a high school it's a brilliant master plan because it means no internal housing which can be millions of dollars and that so that's money that we don't have to spend that can go into doing the building yeah and i guess i just i think this is the threading feedback i'm still stuck on the 20 versus 34. um we really need the 34 but if it's uh some of

285the feedback i got from mrs anderson and other pta folks is well it's going to take several years to do this anyway if we can get it passed at 20 knowing that that's not going to build the entire school as we'd like it at least we show that we're moving forward and then maybe get buy-in that they are doing something and it is worth it and it might mean another bond sorry miss davis you're not going to like that so yeah yeah but i mean i'd love to get as much as we can now i just i don't know whether personally whether i'd want to i'll pay the 34 i'll pay your 34 too if you want me to but um oh you're not in the right area sir um but because that to me

286that's that's cheap i spend more than that on a simon auction supporting grad night so it's it's not a big deal thirty four dollars per hundred thousand yes yeah but like i spend more than that i think i bid more than on the silent auction out of the volleyball court the other day so um i know it's still a tax and for people who don't like attacks it's still a tax but i really think this is we have to try and we haven't this doesn't mean we haven't tried oh how are you going to market this and have you hired a bond consultant and i don't know well we're not there yet we haven't made that commitment but i personally think we have to do it amy um no i just would i was going

287to kind of wrap it up i mean again recognizing that this is the only mechanism in the state of california with which to modernize and um increa and it does increase your property values um and obviously it's it whether it's a game or not is what every other school district figured out and they figured it out over and over again and those folks are assessed we've got that amazing chart that shows that we have basically no assessment in cusd um and you have places like tustin and then no one can figure out when they go to play football or volleyball at these other schools how did that happen um they're just always amazed it's like well it happened because the community decided to reinvest because that's what they want their children to be in that

288as what speaker said earlier from aliso this is commensurate with our community values now how we tell that story to our tax adverse folks hopefully we can but we have to try and um we'll have to try hopefully this time it's a go um and if not you have to keep trying and trying because otherwise that means a total decline my husband's from flint michigan if you want to see shuttered schools a place that died um or dana point wants to be um hawaii the rbo city um so i'm going off on a tangent now okay so anyway what do we need to do for this do we need to say bring it back for a second reading what do we need to do on this one this will come back for action um it

289comes back is it june 15th for action is that right mr hampton yes this is just the first time do we do so if people like gila likes to rewrite everything if they're if they want to rewrite this should they submit to you before the 15th or what are we doing it as is or how do we do that is this a good anybody asked for a rewrite no it's been done by our bond council it's been done by bond council it's matched with the messages and the polls i understand it explicitly yes sorry so can we vote on on uh voting on the firs to i think we do need to have a second reading you have to have separate reading for what it is yeah you need to take action there's two items

290actually uptake action on june 15th in order to actually put the bat the tax on the ballot this and so this item for aliso will come by may 25th to get a first read of the language along with the uh results of the poll so will this come back to us on the 25th the 15th this will come back june june just only so you'll see a draft of aliso on may 25th and then all the final bond documents tax documents would be on june 15th and you'll have to vote on those you're coming back right okay thank you um then we will go on to okay item 15. 88 because we took we skipped seven sorry we already did seven we didn't skip it uh 2022 2023 local control accountability plan update this is

291dr merwin thank you very much president nicolas trustee superintendent royalty staff presents item 8 local control accountability plan and update i'm joined by executive director stacey yogi and assistant superintendent carrie johnson to help answer questions this is an information item only no board action is necessary staff will present the finalized cap plan for approval june 15th 2022 one meeting we are available for any questions thank you do we have any speakers on this oh michelle where's michelle sorry uh trustees any comments or questions okay thank you you're on to item proposed budget adoption 2022-2023 thank you president mcnicholas trustees so i'd like to ask philippa townsend assistant superintendent for fiscal services to present this item thank you very brief budget presentation next slide please so the major difference between this budget and the budget you

292saw it second interim is the assumption of the three prior year average for the attendance ada funding that was continued to be discussed in the governor's may revise so we do expect it will pass so along with that the passage of that three prior averaging it would trigger the [Music] the piece of i'm sorry slate having trouble thinking it would trigger the contingency language in the um the settlements we made with bargaining units for the 2.07 salary increase so in this budget we have included the extra revenue and the extra expenditures that will go along with that extra revenue this this budget assumes a 5.33 cola which as you probably have heard is already outdated now we're expecting to get a 6.56 percent cola so when we bring the budget back in june it will

293show that uh 6.56 cola which is an extra 5 million dollars on top of what you see here in this budget this budget assumes enrollment of 41 942 students which is a decline of 812 students from 21 22. we are seeing slightly better enrollment numbers right now so hopefully that continues but we'll see next slide please this chart compares what you saw at second interim with this proposed budget as you can see it is an improvement in the fund balance from second interim even with the triggering of the contingency language next slide please so this was what i we thought might happen at the may revise as you can see the cola is improved quite a bit from where we thought it might end up there are a lot of different options in the mi

294revise and not all of those will be fully fleshed out before june or july the final budget will be known by the end of june and you will see then all the uh implications from that final sign budget in the analyst actuals budget in august next slide please so the adopted budget will be adopted by june 30th it will be brought forward on june 15th then first interim as you can see december 15th second interim march 15th the next budget after the adoptive budget will be the analogist actuals budget and that will incorporate things such as the one-time funding that is proposed along with the potential for the ten percent increase to the lcf base bonus and with that i'll be happy to answer any questions mrs sage do we have any speakers oh okay

295i do have a note from michelle apostle camel saying i'm still here el cap is solid just further back um question ms townsend um so the state doesn't finalize its budget until june 30th but we have to have ours finalized by june 15th yes so we're always right behind the eight bowl yeah okay so we'll do our best prediction that we can uh conservatively and uh rely on kevin gordon and his friends to give us some insight maybe uh trustees any comments or questions i i had one going back to stirs spurs and purse the numbers this is in the narrative not on your um [Music] powerpoint uh precursors rates they're talking about in your chart this is on page three of five um twenty percent that is first percent of what that's what we

296that's percent of our budget that's spent on hers that's the percentage of the person's salary okay but this is the part we pay yes okay the state pays piece as well on the employee pays a piece okay okay so this would if i had to lump all of the employees salaries together we pay 22 of that or excuse me 25 of that back to the state in retirement funds yes we do sorry yikes okay here's your money um any other comments or questions we do we don't need to approve this now we do no this is just the uh the initial proposal okay thank you uh then we'll go on to 1510 this is the establishment of government financial services joint powers authority i think this is uh mr hampton thank you president mcnicholas trustees

297so in december of 2018 staff brought forward to the board a proposal to be a founding member of the education technology jpa the board approved the jpa and since its formation the jp jpa has grown significantly from the seven founding members that included campus strategy unified the jpa is now 110 members including school districts county offices of education and college districts there's actually a county office in tennessee that's joined the jpa because it was anticipated to be a nationwide effort to reduce prices for technology software the edtech jpa following best practices provides pre-bid software for school districts to select from the power of the jpa is the savings by purchasing on behalf of a large group of school districts this item is to be the founding member of a financial services jpa in much the

298same way the edtech jpa is operated by school districts for the benefit of school districts the financial services jpa will be operated by school districts following best practices as outlined in the government finance officers association guidelines and other founding members are expected to include current county superintendent schools that's the hall of fake matt they approved the their they approved them being part of the jpa on may 11th sacramento sacramento county office of education approved being part of the jpa on may 17th santa clara unified school district their board has indicated following an information presentation that they intend to approve elk grove unified school district their board is indicated following an information presentation that they intend to approve davis joint unified school district has it agendized to be considered by their board and the school's insurance

299authority also intends to have it considered by their board so those would be the founding members along with the campus county unified school district if the board approves joining the jpa and i believe in much the same way the edtech jpa has grown and resulted in savings to school districts the financial services jpa will also grow and provide a significant benefit to school districts staff will bring this item back at a future meeting prior to the june prior to june 30 2022 for board consideration and mark williams with fagin friedman and phil frost is legal counsel who assisted with establishing the edtech jpa and is helping to form the financial services jpa and he is here to answer any questions trustees may have this is an information item thank you [Music] i'm sorry you had

300to sit through all this but this is uh this entering stuff huh very enjoyable very enjoyable uh trustees any questions or comments um it sounds like at least one of my concerns was what is this gonna cost us but it sounds like it's five thousand a year but it applies to services right so really no change in our cost for financial services it's being part of jpa and hopefully is in the long run as more members join and we're and it's school districts are you know doing it for the interests of school districts that we can begin to start saving money compared to other outside providers thank you trustee jones so if we were to join this gpa and then later on decide that it really was not to our advantage we can exit yes

301okay thanks okay so this is an information item only we'll see this on june 15th probably yes we'll bring back it right back on june 15th okay on the item eighty 15 a11 this is a first reading board policy 3452 student activity fund this is uh clark hamilton and ms townsend sound so so this is as a result of the asb audit so it's providing some some of those additional um policies within the the thick net recommended after they're audited of the state high school asb uh trustees any questions or comments jesse jones i would move to wave the second reading and approve this on a first reading question oh well if i can get a second on that and then we can talk about it second okay move by trustee joe second by justin

302castillos trustee davis do you have a question in the comments yes i have a lot of questions okay all right so first of all on page 900 under control and expenditure of student funds let me let me kind of start beginning i personally think that we need to be moving more towards a cashless approach to anything with asb i know for cif um they do only go fan um as far as that goes i know that there's somewhere around eight percent uh from a couple of asb um advisors that we do about eight percent cash and that maybe maybe somebody can answer that for me but um but i think that that would alleviate a lot of problems um and i don't know but i'm obviously for sure i know we can use go fan

303and i know our schools are moving towards that for sure for sporting events but um as far as i think that there's some something about not being able to use venmo or if it's set up for asb specifically but maybe we could use zell payments and i'm sure there's other ways that we can that we can look at i'd love for staff to look at some of those um and okay we'll go back to on page 900 under the control and expenditures um i definitely don't think we should be buying gift cards or gift certificates with asb funds um i think that student funds should not be used to purchase really kind of i'm it under under here it talks about the percentage of boards of trophies to individual students teachers staff members or community

304members i don't know that asb funds should be used for those um and as far as we've made changes on prison principle or designee i mean there's only so much that we can put on a principle to oversee this and i feel like it should be principal or asb advisor or keep designing because i think there's different ways that it should fit and i i feel like that should be throughout um and like as far as tickets go for prom or any events there's no actual tickets uh the system knows what student bought a ticket but there really is no particular ticket under the control and expenditures for that school funds again back over to number three there's there are specific guidelines on certain things and how how funds can be used and it cannot

305purchase supplies for a classroom and i i just i should be using uh and that i think that's in the fitbit manual and it guides the decision making and who's responsible um well i'm going to withdraw my motion to uh do this on first reading because i don't think that we would get unanimous on that so for sure um let's see uh okay so i'd love to see cash lists i'd love to see no gift card purchases with asb funds um it's like cash with no accountability uh asb activity director should have the final say and i i kind of feel like students wouldn't want to say no to the principal the principal came and asked for some particular item i feel like students would maybe have a harder time where they've built a strong

306working relationship with an asb writer advisor or asb that they would be able to have an easier conversation possibly so anyway those are some of my comments rusty hanashak uh thank you um oh well comment back cashless can be an equity issue not everybody has bank accounts so we want to consider them when you talk about going cashless um also the last time we discussed this we had touched on i should be looking this way we had touched on booster clubs can we include that remember we talked about that in reference with this policy well they're separate organizations so you can't so this is asb we would have like how would we then but we're going to provide some training for them okay but we wouldn't want to control that because they're a separate a

307completely separate entity okay that was it um any other comments just ebola i would only add that i know in dealing with kids today i mean they are so quick i just opened up my first zell account you know and that's why they say they don't need to write script to sign a check because they're so busy with zelle and venmo and you know that sort of thing but to trustee hanicek's point there might be those that don't have accounts so we wouldn't want them to be at a disadvantage but i think it should encourage cash lists um just because of the the issues of the control measures but then trustee davis again so there's there's ways that we can do like a voucher if there were cash there's ways that we can do that

308and i would like staff to to look at someone so we are wanting to move towards a cashless system of it ms townsend can speak to that uh particular i don't believe the issue of cash or cashless is addressed in this policy though i mean that that would be you know the way something is done and i don't think that's a policy issue or at least it's not talked about here so and i think one of the things that came out on the audit was used trying to do square or some other phone app that didn't get reconciled somewhere else so i wouldn't rush into totally cashless until we get things under control a lot i think there's a lot of districts that are moving that way for sure i mean it's definitely the direction

309that things are going and for the example of ticket lists i mean right right i get that i mean in cif sports you can only pay with a goat with the i think it's called go family so i don't know most of the cff things i forgot you still can give them money i don't i don't think you can and you want to raise some of those because philippa can elaborate on our efforts to go cashless and how it uh pertains to this policy so we are working towards going cashless we're not there yet we did have a meeting with the asb clerks and the asb works to talk about some of the issues so there was some progress made there towards using a company that would integrate with asb works which would be really

310helpful for the clerks so we're definitely going that direction um we're also working towards something with titan software um we had a delay in that we were trying to do it this year but that didn't happen but we are working towards cashless as much as possible i don't know that we'll ever be 100 cash free but we want to get as much as possible in that direction there's many people who get paid in cash these days [Music] um i have a couple things i i agree with trustee davis on leaving the designee in their principle or designee because i think we have been lumping a lot of things on a principle and it could be the activities address or it could be an ap um it's often beyond this means well that vulnerability i would

311say it's i'm so i would that may be one option if trustees agree to do that i i'm i don't have a problem with item one under control and expenditure with the the gifts or recognition or awards if asp wants to spend their money that way um a plaque or certificate whatever i i don't see that's a problem i think at one time some of the asps brought us t-shirts or caps or something and we kind of discourage that but if that's what they want to give for an incentive for something i i don't think that's a problem i i would like an example though under number three the associated student organization may support the enhancement of the educational program of a specific school through the purchase of supplemental instructional equipment or instructional supplies and

312a associated student may not however purchase supplies for classroom use can i get an example of that you can prove you can purchase supplemental instruction supplies but you can't you purchase supplies for the classroom what's the difference or does that mean you can't buy kleenex and hand sanitizer and you can't buy things that the school district would normally be expected to provide but you can provide an enhancement to the classroom if that's not typically provided yes um i seem to remember a lot of paper towel and kleenex drives on back to school nights this is what the class needs please bring it in first day of school that's totally different than asb kidman okay um any other suggestions comments just evolutions again i just want to make a comment to yours i know at christmas

313time when you ask like when i ask my nieces and deputies what they want gift cards you know so i i get that where you're coming from but i also from a retail standpoint know that it just opens up um it can be a problem in terms of misuse and basically once you buy those gift cards and someone bought them you know where they went and how they were utilized in all and you just don't want to put an honest person in a position where they could decide to use one of those i'm just trying to say that's what kind of happens with the gift cards and if you talk to the um asb people i think that is one of the things uh versus them going and purchasing something uh is the control measures

314then when you buy gift cards who controls if they're sitting in a safe they've been handed out and how they get used just one throw that in there well the policy actually says give certificates not give cars now i think a lot of people might well i know but i think what they're saying is that asb themselves might be providing people with gift certificates um or something i don't know i i i agree that gift cards are is kind of a slippery slope it is they are essentially cash and you could be you know using them to buy all kinds of of things that are not even legal um so i mean i would be okay with that with taking that out but i do kind of think the rest of it is is necessary

315actually gift cards aren't in there if certificates are these are items that were in the existing policy these these are the items that were in the existing policy before we make the edits we're making changes so these are just suggestions just in the areas noted to tighten it up so where it struck through or underlined is where we made the changes did we um did we pull model policy to see if there were updates on gift certificate versus gift card csva i don't know about that part is the only other thing yes i did pull the policy i don't remember if that was still in there or if i just saw it was originally in the document and left it there i could double check i believe most high school student stores where they've got

316their uh logo where is run by the ptas so unless aesb's got an agreement we print a certificate because we want to use this as a prize and they give the certificate that they can go to the student store i mean otherwise i can't imagine who else uses gift certificates i think it's fine to take it out i know the asb clerks some of them didn't love the idea but i didn't add it it was already in the policy so i think it's fine to take it out okay for the asb clerks aware of this yeah were they consulted you've been working with asb clerks oh yes so it sounds like we have two um edits for the next time one is to replace designee that was previously deleted and to delete gift certificates from

317the firm item one is that is that pretty much it so did somebody the principal does no no principle stays there but okay so i could i'll entertain a motion to for those i move to amendments i move with those two amendments i'll second that okay move by yes i think we want to bring it back okay so the motion by trustee davis second by trustee bulkis okay and so this is it all in favor say aye all opposed say no passes 6-0 so this will come back uh item 15 a12 resolution 2122-64 authorization of temporary interfund transfers mr hampton uh this is the yearly item to allow the school district it's for cash flow purposes to be able to borrow from other funds to meet short-term cash flow needs i remember this um any

318comments or questions from the trustees i'll entertain a motion it is a resolution so i'll move the item by trustee castiano second by trustee hanichak um this is a roll call vote student advisor patty hi trustee willis aye trustee castianas hi misty davis hi rusty hanicek aye trustee jones aye justine mcnicholas aye motion passes six zero uh with the preferential vote of i from the student advisor party item 15a13 resolution 2122-65 resolution and order of the bi-neo trustee elections specifications of the election order we do this every time we put an election every two years the same resolution so i recommend approval i move approval second [Music] vote by trustee hanachek second by trustee bolognas this is a resolution so we need another roll call vote student advisor fadia aye trustee bulacas aye rusty castianos

319hi steve davis trustee hanicek trustee jones hi mcnichos aye motion passes six zero with the preferential voter vibe uh student advisor patia um trustee jones would you like to make the motion to um adjourn yes i move that we adjourn in memory of dr don john chang thank you moved by trustee jones second by trustee davis all in favor say aye aye motion passes six zero was a preferential vote of i from student advisor pattia and thank you for your student advisement

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