001Yeah. Who's back here? You want me to get you anything? Yeah. Um Sarah Wotzak is out sick, so it'll be the three of us board meeting. You have the board meeting? Come on in. Well, we're out of the secretary. All right. You know, um Well, I guess I'll let you get your things together there. Um as together as I can be. I think this meeting's uh probably going to be a little different than we anticipated with the executive order 2606. Going to change things a little bit, but uh I think I'll turn it over to you and you can explain what you understand of that and your thoughts. So, there's I think still a lot of uh not a lot of clarity around the executive order in terms of what could it come down the
002road. Share that with something. If I were to put it in a nutshell, it's identified a couple of things uh in terms of instructional time. Uh you know, uh on the one hand, it changed the way that we measure instructional time. Uh before it was instructional minutes, and so it was time in a classroom with a teacher. And so, we would add up our minutes based on you didn't count passing time at the high school, or you didn't count recess time, or you didn't count lunch periods, those things. You just instructional minutes that happened during the day. Um they're now looking at more of a bell-to-bell type of model. So, if you start school at 8:00, you get out at 3:00, then that's your time and it counts everything student contact. So, that was one
003thing uh which kind of neither here nor there uh on that one in terms of us, but what it did do uh was the state had a minimum number of instructional minutes that was required every year. I think K K5 it was nine or K8 it was 900. Um 9-11 was 990 and seniors were 966. So, that was always the minimum mark that you had to hit. Um we were always well above that uh by 100 minutes sometimes depending on the year and things the schedule uh the way it worked out. Um so, they basically overrode that state minimum and they said that your new minimum is whatever you have this year. Well, we are well over uh the state minimum this year and so, that is our new baseline for lack of a better
004word. So, we cannot go below what we are currently doing. And this happens to be a year that's it it was much higher than last year for some reason. I couldn't give you an explanation. I've been trying to figure it out. So, uh that does throw a a bit of a wrench into the four-day week uh because it's hard to get there from here uh in terms of time. And so, I put together this And again, this is just a draft sort of look at it, but um it's a 150-day schedule uh that includes Uh that does not include this 150 days of student contact. Uh it starts uh a week earlier than we usually start. Um and so it would start on the 31st of August. And it would go a week longer than
005we would usually go. So it goes to June uh 10th. Uh as you same schedule that we looked at before, I think there's only 2 weeks that aren't um 4-day weeks. The other thing that they took out The other thing the executive order removed was we were able to count We and we never did. We didn't worry about it too much because we were always so far over. Uh but you could count uh your 30 hours of professional development, 30 hours of parent-teacher conferences in your instructional time under the old uh rule. The executive order removed that, so you don't get to count those days. Just a little aside. Like I said, we never really counted them anyway. They're always just buffer uh for us. It was not uh not super important that we be
006able to count them. On page two, I This is just kind of my notes page. It's I tried to use to keep track of uh what was going on. So this was kind of the original uh version. But if you go to the last page uh at the bottom where it says bell-to-bell hours um So uh the if you slide down to where it says total bell-to-bell hours uh and it says required and difference. So for the grade school to get to the total required hours, it would take um a schedule of 8:00 to 3:45. The high school would have to go 7:55 to 3:55, and they're still below. Uh for the high school to get there, we would actually have to add go to 4:00. And really, if you wanted to have any buffer
007at all, you'd have to go to 4:05. So it lengthened up the day quite a bit. It added some days. Uh this is what we're considering before. Um anyway, makes it difficult to get there and then uh it would be a situation where uh any day that you missed would be a day that you would probably have to make up. You'd have a very, very little cushion. >> [clears throat] >> I'm anticipating that there's going to be a lot of uh conversations around the executive order and you know, there it may look different in a month or two or three as they flesh out what it really means to people. Uh but given the fact that it's middle of April and we don't have two or three months to wait for them to come up
008with an idea, tell us tell us what we're doing. Real quick, Bill. These are our hours so that we meet the second all in there under the requirement. >> Yeah, I'm sorry it's messy. I was just trying to figure out, you know, what cuz this just came out on Thursday. So, really it's only been the last couple of days that we've been able to play with it. Me, too. I just wanted to share with everyone If if those >> Yes, the the new required bell-to-bell hours for us for 11:41 and 12:11. Yeah. So, that tells you how much above that 900 and 990 and we're we're way over it. >> That's all. I just wanted to make sure everyone sees that we're a couple hundred hours over. >> Yep. Okay. Um oof. The other the
009other piece that um Yeah, and you know, we've talked about impact on um on on staff. The the certified staff, they would work a shorter contract, but they would work more hours. So, they would come out really close to the hours that they work right now. That's kind of that top area. Mhm. The the the um I didn't do all of the classified positions, but um we would have to make a pretty decent uh adjustment to calendar and daily schedule for those folks to get them close to where their hours would be just because of the limited days. So, for people that are it wouldn't affect custodians, but like food service, secretaries, aides, uh they would all be running into there would be decisions to be made there because there just aren't as many days
010to work. Okay. What does the um What does this new order do for the current PD days that we have? So, I was curious about that as well. So, I wanted to see what uh if we just kept our schedule as we have um 5 days a week, somewhere in the ballpark of you know, we usually run around anywhere between and 172 contact days with kids depending on the way the year falls. Um So, I thought well, what what does that schedule look like? And that schedule is tough as well. Um we would be if we started at the traditional time of um the day after Labor Day, uh we would have to be uh we would have to have student contact days almost throughout the year. Um we would have the the 5 days
011before school starts. We would have a grading day in October, a grading day in January, a grading day in March, a grading day in June, and a it's not traditional in-service, but an in-service day at the very end, which is kind of our typical thing. Those grading days are in the contract, so we have to put those in there. But, you can see that besides that first week of school, there are no other PD days in that calendar. There's nowhere to put them. Because down at the bottom, I tried to do I tried to show you the minutes. Sorry, got cut off. It's hard to do stuff on a on a spreadsheet like this where I can't I can't broaden the I can't broaden the cells. Um but for the for the grade school we
012would be at 11:55 and 1:40 11:41 is the requirement at the high school. So, we'd have basically 2 days to spare at the grade school. Um and 1 day at the high school, roughly. That's cuz we have to keep our what we're at right now currently. >> Right. Means you could probably slip a PD day in. We could go We could go until June 11th Mhm. uh and get a couple of PD days in there. That's I mean, again, I just was taking a stab at it to see what it would look like if we were trying to go to it on the on the normal schedule. And you're saying there's a lot of new curriculum coming in next year, so if you Well, we we've had Yeah, we've had new curriculum every year for
013the last we've been trying to stay on the adoption schedule, so we've got we had new health uh new social studies next year, new math the year before that, new English the year before that or new science the year before that, new new um think new new English coming I think that uh and then the curriculum like we talked last time, the curriculum is it's not the same. You don't get a box of work worksheets and a and a book, right? Uh you get that and then you get the online components, get the remediation components. And so, I think there's a lot more to the curriculums. Which is great, but you have to have time to figure them out. Well, yeah. I don't know what everyone thinks. I think with this change we're kind of
014at a point where we can't move forward with with the four-day plan very effectively. It really puts a wrinkle in it, doesn't it? It really does. >> I'm anticipating that there's going to be a lot of Yeah, I don't know, but there's a this wasn't well received. School side things, and it's not that schools don't want to be in school, but at same time, picture this didn't come with any extra staffing money or like that, so um I'm pretty pretty confident there's going to be a decent amount of pushback. And that things will flush themselves out over time. So, it certainly would be a deal that we'd be a in a little bit wiser position come next fall if we wanted to look at it again for 27-28, something like that. We would have our
015feet on the ground a little bit better than we do right now. This change. Okay. What if a school that's already currently on a four-day week? They they just they just meet their same their their minimum is their minimum, right? Everybody's number is going to be different. >> Yeah. Uh yeah, so if their their number was 990s, then they're 990. Mhm. In other words, we get punished for doing well the last few years, right? Mhm. Um yeah. I don't know. I see we have a decent crowd here. We didn't really have a public comment section planned, but um We didn't receive any requests. >> received. Okay. Well, what do you think? I don't feel real confident moving forward not knowing what what's going to come. All right. Um I don't like the feeling of cutting
016it right to the to the edge of of our time. We'd be in a situation where any day missed would be a makeup day. We have to build in a makeup system. There's a lot of other changes. You know, it's not huge changes, but there are other things that come with this. If you know, if we're we're not feeling confident in it, it's a lot of work. We have to do it and not knowing what's coming. Like I said, I think we'll know a lot more in two or three months in terms of what the the state's going to do. I would probably advocate to to leave the schedule as is and given the lack of information that we have. Yeah. Um Yeah, I was reading our OSBA um emails that came in here. Came
017out today. Yeah. They sent it out. It sounds like everyone's kind of in the same boat as far as up in the air and don't know which way to go. Uh There were a decent number of districts that cut and put in furlough days. Yeah. Or the public had put in three or four furlough days. Mhm. So they're they're going to have to re- re- re-strategize what they're doing. You And those are budget budget pieces. Wasn't to the fund? No. There's no extra funding at all with this or nothing. That's what I thought, too. No, and that's where the the regular uh the regular schedule gets tough even because uh we only have 190 days of teacher contract time to work with, you know. Uh we can't pay them for 190 and then ask them
018to come in for 200. So uh that's why this schedule looks the way it does because we really can't we can't expand it out. Um Yeah, 24 25 was a big year for us and therefore in it's actually counting 25 26 which was even bigger than 24 25. What about the one with the county? I don't know that they would have That's not clear because there's different there's different groups counting. What is the state average? You know. Uh actually I did did have that somewhere only because it came out on a report. Uh average the US average for contact days is 180. 180? Yeah. 1,231 hours. That's the US average according to this group that's reporting on it. I don't and that's bell to bell time. That's not that's leaving counting lunch. Uh Oregon weighted
019averages which I don't know what weighted means. Uh average average annual contact days is 165. Annual contact hours is 1,117. Mhm. Our time like I said was 11:36 at the grade school and well this this one is 11:36 and 12:18. I don't think that this these numbers aren't exactly right. They're a little bit off. Okay. Um I one of the biggest things that came up um I think when we started investigating this is the going to every class every day. Um but still something we can explore. >> Mhm. Yep. I've already reached out and uh talked to a couple of folks about that. That's something I'd like to pursue at the high school. Uh with the the primary goal being the ability to try to tie the middle school and the high school together a
020little bit better. Right now they're operating in two different universes. Because the schedules are so different, so we can't share any sort of resource either direction. Um, I just feel like given our situation, there are resources that we could share. >> Mhm. And so, I think it would be very viable um because it's bell-to-bell time. It doesn't matter if it's a seven-period day or a four-period day, right? So, it wouldn't impact that very much. So, I'm going to continue to to work on that. All right. Does anyone else have anything they want to add? And what I'll do with uh the regular schedule is I'll I'll try to put together a few options for you to ponder Mhm. uh at the next meeting and and um because there is I mean, there is a viable
021argument for starting a week earlier. This This Labor Day's is late as it can be. Right. Um and so, there is an argument for starting at least a few days before Labor Day. Uh maybe not a full week, maybe a three-day week. Uh would allow us to maybe plug in a PD day here and there during school year because that was probably the piece I was most interested in. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I I think I think we were, too. >> Yeah, agreed. Or deal with a nice storm or a Yeah. anything. So. Okay. Well, I guess with that, there's no need for a vote for a change. We're just three. That's what it is. Yeah. Anyone else? Good. Okay. Um so, next meeting, we'll have a discussion on the maybe changing periods. We'll explain it
022here then. >> Sure. We'll throw that out. Guess what? That adjourned, huh? >> Yeah. 5:51 Thank you, everyone, for coming. Sorry. Wasn't what it was planned to be.