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September 23, 2025 School Board Meeting

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2025-09-24
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Franklin County, PA
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001Call this evening meeting to order. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. Okay. Item 2.03. Motion and second, please, to adopt this evening's agenda. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Motion by Mrs. Goggler, second by Mr. Raber. Questions, additions, discussions, deletions on this evening's agenda? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I >> opposed. Eyes have it. So move. 3.01. Mr. Bigger. Superintendent report. >> Thanks, Mr. Norcross. I'd like to start off with the state budget. We'd like to have one. Uh we haven't had any talk about one. Um and it's it's wearing on everybody. So, I do want to um um continue to push and

002ask everybody to push anybody that you can legislatively to get talks going and get a state budget. It is certainly impacting our overall financial dollars and adding due stress to the system that is not needed. Um at this time time, Tammy will go over a few numbers on how far we can go without a state budget before um we might have to do something. >> Thank you, Mr. Bigger. Um yes so right now we are in fairly good uh as from a cash basis standpoint uh as a lot of the real estate taxes have come in. Uh but looking year over year if you look at the treasures for report at the end of August we are down 20 million almost $20 million in the bank. Um my major concern right now is the impact

003to our interest income as we are losing interest on that money. Um October is a big month. We have three pays in October. Um, our payrolls are just a little over $3 million each pay. Um, I would anticipate that we can probably be okay through the end of the year, but much longer than that, we'll look at uh having to go out to borrow money. >> Calendar year, not >> Yes. Not the fiscal year, calendar year. That would be correct. >> Three months. >> Yeah. >> Conservatively. Yeah. >> Thank you. Um, next topic, the Trojan walk is coming. I think we have a a esteemed board member who has raised a bunch of money and um we're excited about this person and I think he needs a couple hundred dollars to get to his goal.

004So we appreciate you um representing the board, the school district at the Trojan Walk Thursday this week. Um we are halfway through the first marking period. So seems like school just started. Um so everyone just a reminder that we are halfway through. Keep at it students and staff. Um the year is just beginning. We do have a student um who will be sitting alongside us in October as our student board representative. Amamir Hassan will be joining us from cases. This year will be cases. Next year will be CMS. I met with a young gentleman, a wonderful young gentleman. He aspires to be in the medical profession and study political science at the same time. And so I was starting to prep him on your really nice, wonderful questions you'll ask him. Um and I said

005your standard response is if you don't know the answer, you'll get the answer for that. Um, so I'm already prepping him well to be a good student representative. He is really excited. I gave him the option to attend one or both meetings and just come to the cow. He said, "I'm going to do both as long as my schedule allows me." So, look forward to seeing air here in October. Uh, the school district received great news from the PA Department of Agriculture in the cafeterias. There were no violations. Um, so thank you to all the food service and cafeteria staff for passing that test. Uh the last item I have um is just more of a statement that we did have an employee click on a fishing email. Um and as a result of that

00624-hour period, a bad actor got control of that individual's email. And as a result, we do have to send notifications out to any potential um um family, student or individual that may have been had information in there that was um uh in uh insecured and the actor may have gotten that sensitive information. So, out of abundance abundance of caution, in a 24-h hour period, we're going to send letters to about 760 people letting them know that their information may have been stolen. We hardly we believe that the 24-h hour period was a very short window of that bad actor. Uh however, we are required to report to the uh attorney's office, district attorney and state uh uh attorney's office and we did all of that and the issue is resolved uh on our end and

007we've done all the communications. But I wanted to let you know we did have that active. It wasn't near like the last event. This is just one bad click. And what I would say with lesson we learned, delete old emails and look at that email that's being sent to you. one period out of place, one letter out of place. It's easy to miss and it was that simple. So, no intent on the employee and certainly no consequences to that employee. It was just a mistake and the the bad actors are getting better at what they do. Uh that concludes my report at this time. >> Uh may I make one minor correction or addition? Um regarding the Trojan walk, uh yes, I am the board member participating, but this is not my goal. It is

008the goal set by Emily Goodine, Dr. Goodine, I believe. And uh I want to thank all the community um who have donated thus far of the $5,000 goal. We're only $220 short as of tonight. There's still one more day to be able to donate. As a matter of fact, I just received a donation just a few minutes ago by a gracious uh member of the community. Thank you very much. And uh as you may know, these are students K through 12 special education that are probably the most challenged and vulnerable students we have. So if you have an an opportunity to donate, the minimum is five bucks. Surely maybe you could skip your coffee one day and donate five bucks. But thank you very much for those who have donated. >> Thank you, Mr. Haydock,

009and thank you, Chris, for your report. Um I have a very short report uh this evening. I want to recap first from two weeks ago. Uh thank you Mrs. Staler and Mr. Fry's uh presentation at her cow on the finance financial end of uh schools of distinction project investment. U tonight we'll hear from Dr. long with a little bit of an update and you know as we get further down the road we'll start getting more and more details and uh I thank Chris for how he has put this together that you know there is the bricks and mortar side of it and then there's the financial side of it and you can't do one without you know also talking about the other. So I thank Chris and the team for for keeping both in front

010of us uh because it is a large investment for for everyone. Okay, I just set you up Dr. Long 4.01 facilities update. I have a partner tonight presenting with me. Mr. Varner is going to present with me um concerning the the update. I do want to tell you that this project um the presentation was run through a an AI generator and it's changed a little bit since it was we did it internally. Um and that program is called Gamma. If you like AI and you want to try something, it's really really cool. Really cool. So, >> we need to run the remote. >> Yeah. Well, the battery was it was turned off. Sorry. So, our agenda tonight includes um I want to talk about the meeting structure that we have um Crabtree Roarball update, RLPS

011update as well. both of the um architects are on the same schematic design phase of the project and then Mr. Barner is going to go over the operation study and then we'll talk about next steps what we're looking at as we go forward. But the meeting structure um the meeting structure is very important for our overall success of our projects. Our stakeholder engagement process brings together um diverse expertise to ensure project success through collaborative decisionmaking. I say all that to tell you that there are different teams basically for our meeting structures. The first one is the design team with the architects and the civil engineers. I will tell you that I have learned so much since July 1st. Um and I know I have an awful lot more to learn. So, um, these guys are

012really, really intelligent and they know their business. So, I I feel very confident that our district's in two very good hands with the engineers and architects. Uh, the next one is the district project team. Um, we h we break that down a little bit. We have our decision-m team and then we also have other administrators that that are supplying some information and then content specialists to make the the directions go forward for this. and then our local authorities. Um we're we're getting in with Green Township and also the Burough of Chambersburg and we're using their expertise and guidance and also developing uh the sites and the plans um according to what they need to be um looked at and and used in precision. Um all in all, we have about approximately 70 meetings that we

013conducted to date since July 1st. Matt and I meet every day. U Melissa, Matt and I meet every week and so forth. Um and we have online meetings, face toface meetings, telephone meetings, all kinds of meetings. So, all right. So, last month during the presentation, uh it was shared with you a fairly detailed uh sketch plan or site plan of the Green Village property. Um this plan will continue to evolve as we move forward uh and get guidance and clarity um from PENDOT, from the municipality um and as the civil engineer begins to do his geotechnical investigation. Um a few key milestones that I would like to highlight. Um on August 16th, uh the traffic impact study or TIS scoping application was submitted to PennDOT. um followed by a scoping meeting that was held on

014September 10th. Uh from that meeting, we learned that our traffic engineer is required to study 13 intersections uh as well as the northbound exit ramp of I 81. Uh additionally, we learned that PENDOT is piloting a new program aimed to expedite the process and approval of highway occupancy permits or HOPS. Um, our project has been recommended for inclusion into this program. Um, while it's encouraging, uh, we are still unclear how much time, uh, the new process, uh, could save us. Um, and lastly, um, with the crops being harvested, the civil engineer, uh, is beginning to schedule the geotechnical investigation, uh, as we continue progressing through the next phase of development. So, this is the Chambersburg area intermediate school. Um, what you're looking at is a draft document. I'm going to repeat that so everyone knows.

015This is a draft document. Um, we've been looking at a threetory option to gain some sight space. So, if we go with three stories, we will eliminate 100 ft per wing. So that will allow students to be able to get through the building much quicker. Also the administrators to be able to look at different things um um much quicker in the building as well. I I want to repeat once again this is not a completed schematic. It is a draft and we want to make sure that we're doing it right. But during this schematic design um this development continues with the focus on educational functionality site integration and creating modern learning environments for the intermediate level. So key design elements that we're looking at include flexible classroom configurations, collaborative learning spaces and infrastructure to go

016to the 21st century learning model. This schematic is pretty complete. So this is a live a live schematic. So this is on the Green Village Elementary School. Um the schematic that um we're looking at has taken about two months to complete. We have a a young architect who's really looking at space saving and doing some different things. And this is about the third iteration of this design that really looks good as far as um spacing and things like that. But if you're looking at elementary school designs, and this is what our focus was here was age appropriate learning environments that contain safe and nurturing spaces um that allow child development but also community involvement. So I'd like to look at this design for a couple minutes. If you look at the um oval that is

017purple, that is outside outside learning space. But in that square right above it, that's the media center. And then that's the long T hallway that's from the media center that goes from the administration office, counseling office, nurses office to the right. Then that small space next to it is a stage that's off of the gymnasium. Our current designs have that stage at the end of that rectangle, not at the side of the rectangle. Um, this was shown to our fizzed teacher, that's the content specialist, and she just absolutely loved it because she said you can get more people in the in the widthwise instead of everybody going back. And I didn't even think about that when we were talking about the design that you don't have someone way in the back. you have people that

018are are out farther in a wing so to speak. Then you have your cafeteria on towards the left and then your kitchen and things as well. So that community segment is is right there above the big with the large boxes and then the educational are on your educational wings. I will say that the blue light blue are the classrooms and you will see there's five classrooms per grade level. uh the light green or special ed and then the other spaces are art, music, um small groupoup instruction, title one and things like that. Moving to RLPS. Um once again they're in a different segment and when you see the timeline you'll see they're a little bit um off from Crabtree Roarball but a visual activity and if you remember Crabtree did a visual activity with students

019earlier on. Um, RPS, RLPS did one with our principles of the middle schools and that was to determine some learning spaces that they wanted to design using pictures. Once again, that visual, they bring in pictures. They show them pictures from all kinds of different schools that not only they design, but other architects design and give them an idea of of the space that they can use outside of the classroom for optimal learning. And once again, just like the four to six intermediate school, um we're looking at a three-story design. And then also, um Mr. Varnner in a couple slides here was going to give a civil engineering update. So, if you remember these five pictures, uh these are iterations that are showcased evolved from initial concepts to refined solutions. And if you um see the

020screen, we had two check marks there that we selected C and D for possible sites on the property. I will tell you that as we went through some civil engineering and and architect um discussions. Uh some of these are not going to work because of the placement of different things. So we'll look at a newer drawing. Um, and there's northeast which is up towards the businesses. On the right hand side of each one of those is 81. The left side of the red line is the um Stafford Avenue and then the bottom is McKinley. So the the top one is northeast u where the um classrooms are the two little legs that stick up there towards there and then the park side which is uh closer to McKinley. And then alls we asked for was

021a rotation of the park side um on the right side bottom. We also did try to get a building up there where the um softball field is next to McKinley Street, but that was eliminated due to storm water runoff and also utilities. They are the entrance and exits for those. So that is out of out of question right now. So, we will be looking at different things from the civil engineer and the architects uh soon here and then we'll be able to narrow down to one or two places um and and get back with you next month. So, yeah, as Mark just mentioned, uh we're evaluating several potential locations at the CAM South site uh for the new building while keeping the existing building uh operational. Um, as many of you are aware, we hired

022HRG as our civil engineering partner uh to work alongside RLPS uh to help us identify the ideal location. Uh, in August, HRG began surveying and base mapping. In September, they moved into geotechnical field field exploration. Uh, on September 17th, engineers began digging test pits uh to perform soil studies and infiltration testing. Uh those sites are actually shown on that site plan on the slide. Uh as you can see, DP required a total of 20 test sites, many of which were 3 ft long by 10 ft or 3 ft wide by 10 ft long, various depths up to 9 ft. Um it had a pretty significant impact onto the site. Um, and in order to preserve the athletic fields as well as gym spaces along the right hand side of that plot plan, uh, we proposed

023a less invasive testing method, uh, which DP approved. And so they have a driller on site, uh, and they actually started today, uh, doing bore hole testing for that area and that is scheduled to go approximately 3 to 4 days. So this is the timeline for Crabtree Roarball is at the top and then RLPS is at the bottom. Um the timelines are pretty close. If you look at schematic uh October will be the end for Crabtree and November will be the end for RLPS. And then if you look at the bidding and negotiation um Crabtree will be finished in October, ready to bid and then RLPS um in November. We want to make sure that we want to bid these separately um in order to supply the contractors a better a better idea of what

024they're doing and what they're getting into. And then construction is still ready to go for May 2029 uh to finish so we can have a wonderful start for the the children. >> Yeah. And just to take a quick moment to update you on the operation study. um you know that the operation study is aimed at gaining efficiencies through consolidation. Uh while this has taken somewhat of a backseat to the building design process, it is still moving forward. Uh several weeks ago, we brought on board a food service consultant uh to gather information and provide recommendations. Existing facilities have been surveyed to better understand how the space is currently being used. Uh and then you know we are also beginning to analyze our existing staff levels, our vehicle fleets, our equipment needs. Um the next phase

025of the study will be really for each group to to dig in and kind of do for lack of a better term an internal gut check of their actual needs and not what they currently have. Um we don't want to we want to create we want to create something that we need not just recreate what we what we currently have set up. Um, also we are going to begin to identify logical locations for potential consolidation. Uh, and we look forward to bringing some options to you in the near future. >> And then our next steps, um, we want to make sure that we update you next week or next weekend, >> next month on project timeline. Um, and then the burrow meeting. We're trying to get a burrow meeting uh by next month in order

026to be able to talk with Mr. Waggamouth and some others at the burough. They have engineers and things like that that they want to bring in about the site, the middle school. And then uh we'll naturally give you the updates on the design concepts and then also the civil engineering. Any questions? Board members questions. Right. Thank you, gentlemen. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Item 5.01 uh privilege of the floor. Um we have one uh member of the audience who signed in. Um comment on agenda items. Uh Valerie Jordan, budget and bill list. Mrs. Staer, I'm with you on that. I'm very concerned because my husband and I are senior citizens and if you're getting my emails, you know, I'm emailing the state today. I called Eric Nelson's office. I spoke to his aid. She

027kind of put me off, but I told her how it is. The senators will not pass the budget, and the majority of the senators are Republicans. For the benefit of every CASD taxpayer in this room tonight, I would like the administration to best of its ability to calculate the loss of interest income on $74.5 million, which is a portion of the state budget dealing with state revenue to the district. Why? Because state lawmakers haven't passed the state budget yet. I kindly ask you to your you you you to place this loss in interest income on a future board agenda to the best of your knowledge. I'm losing money. I also bring up my school tax bill again. It is $4,915. I then go to the bill list you approved tonight. I'll be doing this exercise

028until the next the first shovel goes into the ground for the new school and renovations to the other schools. A large number of vendors are being paid a whole lot more than Mrs. Jordan's school tax bill rounded off to the nearest dollar. Penna Cyber Charter School 28,000. Burrow of Chambersburg which shocked me $15,700. So that means I'm being nice to the burrow too and I don't mind because we're being nice to them in Guilford. Amazon Capital Service 89 thou 88 8,900 Favville Contractor 7,300 Lowe's 4700 OP ODP Business Solutions 22,000 Shalom Christian Academy 72,000 Cumberland Valley Christian School 39,000 Franklin County Career and Technology $13,700 River Academy $210 $210,000. That's just a small list of vendors you approve will approve. But I hope I made an impression upon you and I I email all over

029the state. I know people all over this state and I've gotten to blind copy people all over the state and I've met them through Facebook. and I'll continue to send you emails because I'm an elderly woman and I want my money and my husband needs his money. We are paying estimated taxes and to the tune of $3,000. I misqued last time. I want my money and everybody in this room deserves their money, too. >> Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Jordan. Um, and I didn't mention this earlier, but even if you didn't sign up to speak, you're also allowed to speak. So, is there are there any other members of the audience who would like to address an agenda item in privilege of the floor? The other item I missed way back earlier uh was item 1.01.

030And I always do that after the pledge and the moment of silence. And I forgot it that the board did meet in executive session prior to this evening's meeting to discuss personnel matters. So I'm uh about 25 minutes late on that part of the agenda tonight. Okay. Items 7.01 through 7.10 which all get approved on 7.11. These are new agenda items, consent agenda items, items that were not discussed two weeks ago at committee of the whole meeting. So with that of same procedure, admin, Mr. Bigger, and any of your team, are there any of those items you wanted to elaborate on for the board? >> I don't think we have anything that stands out that's not ordinary. >> Okay. Uh board members, are there any of those items that you would like to ask questions

031on or have a different a maybe a u discussion or debate on? If so, we need to pull them off of this before we vote on them. >> Not discussion, but just uh congratulations for the tenure achievements that are listed. >> Yeah, >> quite a few people have met that requirement. I have a lot of signaturing to do here tonight. Mrs. Stafford advised me. >> Okay. Hearing none. Do I have a motion and second, please, to approve items 7.01 through 7.11. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Motion by Dr. Diller, second by Mrs. Scouse. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Opposed. Eyes have it. So move items 8.01 through 8.08. These are consent agenda items also that we did discuss two weeks ago. Uh Mr. Bigger and your team, any

032else to add in addition from two weeks ago? >> No updates at this time. Thank you for asking. >> Board members, any items you would like to pull out to discuss or vote on individually? Okay. Hearing none. Do I have a motion and second to approve items 8.01 through 8.08? >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Motion by Mr. McKe, second by Mr. Hayd. >> All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. Eyes have it. And so moved. 10.01 Solar Energy Systems Fedville Elementary and Scotland Elementary. Mrs. Staler. Mr. Varner. as as this the board should be familiar with this. This is um due with the school or the solar for schools grant. We are asking the board to approve this uh contract for the solar energy systems that will go

033into Fedville Elementary and the Scottben Elementary >> and Mr. Varner reported on this two weeks ago at committee of the whole. But are there any other questions? Well, no. If there aren't any, wait, we'll wait for a motion and second before I ask that question. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Motion by Dr. Diller, second by Mr. Rabber. Questions or discussions? >> I think it's just worth pointing out for the public. $3.8 million net savings over the life of this. It's pretty exciting for for the district. So, thank you, Mr. Barner, for your work. >> Others questions, comments, discussions. Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. Eyes have it. So move. 10.02. Gifts, grants, and donations. Motion and second, please. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Motion

034by Mrs. Goggler, second by Miss Harbaugh. questions, discussions, comments on accepting free stuff. >> $37,000. It's pretty cool. >> Someone told me if they're going to give it to you for nothing, take it. >> All right. All those in favor signify by saying I >> I opposed. Eyes have it. And so moved. Policy and legislation. Item 11.01, election of officers. Mrs. Staler is that or we're just >> sorry do two things at once. >> Sorry. I'll slow down. I'll take a drink of water and slow down here. >> Oh yeah. This is for the uh PSBA um individuals. You just basically have to do a motion to approve and >> Okay. Do we have a motion and second to approve? >> So move. >> Second. >> Motion by Mr. McKe. Second by Dr. Diller. Everyone

035wrote read the biography of these board of directors, right? >> Or officers. >> Full thing. >> I do have a question if I may. >> Yes, sir. >> Um I noticed if I'm not mistaken, there's like one candidate per office and is that how they normally work out? >> Uh to my knowledge, yes. I don't think there's ever been more than one. >> Okay, that's interesting. Thank you. It's like on election day and you know those are I call them on the undercard, right? Vote for no more than three and there's only three to vote for to start with. >> Yeah. >> I I think we should really plan on whoever wins the Trojan walk should should also be on the ballot next year. >> A goal. You have to have a goal. Right. >>

036There you go. >> All right. We have a motion and second. Any other questions, discussions? All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Opposed. >> Eyes have it. So move. >> These next will slow me down a little bit. Item 11.02 policies with no changes. Uh we have one policy 211 student accident. Motion and second, please. >> Move to approve. Second. >> Motion by Dr. Diller, second by Mrs. Goggler. Questions or discussions? All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. Eyes have it and so moved. 11.03 first reading of policies. Um we'll do these all in one group. Policy 100 comprehensive planning. Policy 118 independent study. Policy 142, migrant students. Policy 216, student records. Policy 219, student complaint process. And that's the last one in that group. Motion and

037second for approving the the aforementioned policies for under first reading. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Motion by Mr. Hick, second by Mrs. Gaus. questions, comments or discussions? Just make a real generic comment with these. This will be a regularly reoccurring event uh because there's I don't know a thousand some policies and fortunately uh PSBA does a good job of just giving us the guidelines on what needs to be updated and not. Okay, no other questions. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Opposed. >> Eyes have it and so moved. 11.04. Second reading of policies. Policy 112 school counseling. Policy 119 current events. Policy 140. Charter schools. Policy 626.1 travel reimbursement federal programs. Policy 827, conflict of interest. Motion and second to approve those policies on a second read. >> Move

038to approve. >> Second. >> Go ahead. You didn't have your name yet. >> Second. >> All right. Motion by Mr. McKe. Second by Mr. Walker with an assist from Ms. Hartball. >> Questions or discussions? We put the assist in the minutes too. >> Absolutely. >> Pretty important. >> Yeah. >> If I recall, uh maybe last meeting or the meeting before there was a Mr. Bigger suggested that we would not be paying our charter school bills until we got uh our budget. And um for some reason I thought I read something recently that said we would not permitted to do that. >> Not not to my knowledge. I mean the charter schools right now under the the school code have the ability if a district does not pay them they can go to the state and

039request payment to be held from our subsidy. Of course the state's not giving us any subsidy right now. So, um, there's really not anything to get any, you know, to go forward. So, no, there's not anything that I know of. >> Thank you. That's good news. >> Yeah. >> 10% of zero is still zero. >> Good question. Thank you. Any other questions or discussions on the policies for second read? All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. I. >> Opposed. Eyes have it. And so move item 12, new business, board members. New business maybe for future discussion agenda topics. Open it up to the board members. Cooking with gas football game was last night. Next next meeting we'll have World Series games to get to or something. >> That's right. Sorry, I hate

040to spoil your expectation. Um, >> I thought if I talk long enough, somebody would jump in. >> Yes, sir. I would just like to um the board to consider and the superintendent consider we do have a uh electronic device policy and um I've read it thoroughly and um I was wondering if perhaps in the next maybe year we should revisit that policy and see if we might uh make it a little more stricter in some way. Um because I think that anybody that's doing any serious reading about the use of uh cell phones in schools recognize that it's a distraction from learning and I think there are entirely too many distractions as there is already. So um I just throw that out there for discussion or consideration >> other board members. >> I would like

041to agree with you as well that we should put that on a upcoming agenda for discussion. And one other question. When is the student achievement? >> Let's wait a minute. We'll get there in a minute. >> Oh, okay. >> So, a thought I have on I think it's a good I think it's a great topic and I don't know, Mr. trigger, get your thought, but off the cuff here, we did change policy on this or maybe started enforcing it a little differently, maybe more so than saying changed it in the past year and a half or so, beginning of last school year. Mhm. So I don't know maybe it would be worth a discussion or a presentation at a committee of whole uh where we were and kind of results we've seen or what we've

042learned since we changed the rules of engagement. Just just a thought to maybe one as a bit of a history lesson. You've all heard me say it. Dad was a history teacher. Love you dad. So I like history. But uh Mr. Mr. Woodman, you have a mic in front of you here. You're ready to or no, I thought you were getting ready to speak. >> Oh, okay. But I don't know. That's just a thought. I don't know what your thoughts are, Mr. Bigger. >> So far, three of you have said something. So, few more acknowledge that you want to do that, then we'll see where it would be in the review process. If this would be up within the next year logically, >> and if it happens, great. If not, then we would move it

043in front of other policies. So, I'd have to go do a little little digging on when it's scheduled to come back up. Now that we're on a 10-year cycle, making sure no policy gets over the 10 years, we'll see when the last time we updated it, but I need a few more thumbs up on the requests. So, I heard from three. >> Yeah, it' be great just to get an even if it's just a few minutes. Yeah. It doesn't need to be long, but I'd like an update. >> Yeah. >> Before we dive into policy, I mean, maybe just a bit of a overview. >> Sure. for everyone and then from that it'll probably my guess with >> the board it'll then probably spark some other very good discussions and debate like I said lessons

044learned you know what have we learned in the past year and one month >> there's also a lot of literature out there now uh that's that's out there research on cell phone usage and I think that we you know you don't want to change it on kids midstream but you know if if we start discussing it Now if we want to make changes then you know we have time to get that in get that in place but I think a review of the literature right now would be also very helpful >> and probably I'm I'm assuming I'm could be wrong on this with all of the AI technology there's probably going to be more usage of devices than less uh I don't know what what that would is that are we looking at would that

045be a negative or is that a you know what I mean? Yeah, >> that's good. Okay. >> Yep. >> Dr. Delo, you had an item? >> Yes. Uh, as far as uh student achievement, PSSA scores and all that, when when will that presentation be occurring? >> Right now, we're slated for the second meeting in October. Um, e- metric the P Pennsylvania should be releasing our final scores by building and by district. Uh, September 27th is the date. Now, pending that in the past sometimes they they've they told us that uh that it's September 27th, but sometimes they delay it. So, hopefully they're not. But, if they release it on September 27th, my team will be ready to present at the second meeting in October. >> Perfect. Thank you. other potential new business topics, discussions. There's

046been in the past some comments about um presenting a portrait of a graduate as far as what graduates are going to have whenever they graduate. Is that still something that you're working on? Uh Brad Oer is going to be giving a presentation on basically 9 to 12. Um our our director is going to be giving a presentation at the first meeting on basically like their entry plan and what what the priorities are. At a later date, Brad's going to be talking more about themies. We have um Mrs. Luffy and a team heading out to Ignite to look at the possibilities for what uh we're going to be doing 9 to2 with ourmies and um directions. So stay tuned. Uh Mr. Oer will be and probably Mrs. Luffy together will be doing a presentation on that.

047Uh I guess sometime late November or December. The reason I ask, I had a a member of the public ask me about the requirement or lack thereof of a civics's course and I remembered that you talked about this portrait of a graduate in the past and I thought, well, maybe that's where that will show up. that also we're looking at the graduation policy and that's part of that that policy as well. So that that'll be part of the the whole presentation package. >> Yeah. Um, one other item. Um so I've been reading uh several books on middle childhood and uh public schools or schools in general and um been a lot of uh discussion about the mental health uh issues with these children in particular the rise in uh anxiety and depression in young people

048and u I'd like to know if um when we get did a presentation on all the professional development goes going on in the district. There may be some uh subject matter that might allow teachers to have some um ways of identify people that are struggling in that regard. And maybe it's already being done. I just don't know about it. So I just be interested in that subject. Okay. Any other thoughts or interest? All right. Information section uh vacancy summary uh is attached. District enrollment summary is attached. And then LIU report. Miss Harbaugh. >> Well, I will echo what Tammy and Chris have said. Um, as I told you guys before, the LIU because the state budget has not been passed, uh, got into an agreement with PNC Bank for a loan which actually is acting

049as a line of credit. Um, because the budget hasn't been passed, they are going to be utilizing that to pay the September bills. Um, which will incur interest because they're getting that. Uh, it's relatively manageable considering what they're asking for, but at the same time, it wouldn't be necessary if we had a budget. Um, also, and I don't know how many people know this, they had their federal monies approved, but because there's no state budget, they can't get their federal monies. So, that's the way the the world works, I guess, here. Um, so it's very frustrating, I think, because there are a lot of good things that are going on with the new director out there. Uh, he's actually opening things up to focus on some things that they can be doing for the school

050districts. Um some things that have come up and that we have talked about potentially are maybe having grant writing people that could help with things. Um maybe helping with different um I know he talks to the superintendents and you know Mr. Viger could speak to that. Uh he's pretty hands-on and asking them what can we be doing to help you? What services can we be offering to you other than just the special education side? So uh Mr. Maresy's been in Dr. from Marcy's been in for a year now and the way that he is moving with things and the way that he's spearheading things and really trying to get um other streams of revenue coming into the LIU. Uh I it's really remarkable and I think he's really going to do a lot of good

051things out there. But again, to echo your sentiments, got to have that state budget passed because other people are starting to dig into coffers and having to get these loans and things of that nature and it's it's going to be pretty problematic here within the next couple of months. Thank you, Mrs. Harbo. And I think on Mrs. Staler's early report, the thought I had, but I'll share it. I'll just share my thought now. Uh, you know, from a finance perspective and private industry, we call it cash is king. Don't ever underestimate the value of having cash. Um, and I'm talking about our district bottom line. It's it's not a bad thing. Franklin Learning Center report. U if you don't have report that's fine but Mr. Haydock or Mrs. Gaus anything to report? >> Um it's

052a little confusing in so far as uh if I'm not mistaken um the last meeting that Mrs. Gaus and uh Dr. dealer and I attended um was just a few weeks ago and uh really you have not received the official minutes yet on that meeting. Correct. >> From the September >> I can't see >> that's May. That's May >> May. So, um there was plenty of discussion uh about the fact that they were going to be um no longer having a swimming pool there and creating um additional classroom space. And uh there was also some discussion about the potential Shippensburg School District entering into um the consortium of the other schools that are now sending students there. That was all discussed. No decisions made. But so I'll I'll withhold any real decisions because that's what

053happened in September. So stay tuned basically what the report is. I just wanted to add I was at that meeting as well and and uh you know as far as the Franklin Learning Center in Shippensburg uh joining the consortium um there's still a lot of unknown uh factors that I discovered at that meeting uh I I think we need to have more of the numbers on finances on what we're charging participating children or participating districts and non-participating districts sending their children there and and they I I we I just personally did not have a good handle on the the finances and I think that's something that really needs to be looked at because uh I think we have like 50 is it 48% what what is the number that ownership of that of that building

054and we send a very large number of students there we so we we need to look at all angles and and two with shippsburg uh coming into the consortium we're sending kids to other places when they fill up. So, it's right in our backyard. So, it to me it doesn't make sense to be sending kids somewhere else when we we really have needs over there and it's it's in our district. So, a lot of un unanswered questions, which has me kind of trying to figure out because we have to look at what's best for all kids, but we also have to look at what's best for the district. So, we'll we'll stay tuned as as the information starts to to flow. But there's a lot on the finances that really needs looked at. >> Okay.

055>> Thank you. Franklin County Career Tech, Mrs. Goggler. >> Well, the Career Tech Center has finalized leadership changes with the hiring of Leslie Schuman as the director and Al Pillo as the assistant director. And I'm very excited about the future with the leadership uh and the experiences that both those people have outside of our wonderful career center. Um but bringing new thoughts and new ideas in always in my opinion is an advantage and so I'm really looking forward to that. uh the two new programs, the instructors have been hired for protective services and the animal science uh program and funding and plans uh for the curricula and so forth are in process. >> Um thought on that and I should have brought this up in new business but it just reminded me. Um I don't

056know if the board would be interested uh maybe as a future uh committee of the whole presentation asked Dr. Schuman to bring her team over and just give a presentation on basically you know where they are at Career Tech and where they're going. Mrs. Goggler mentioned the the new programs. Um but I don't know if that's something board members may be interested in or not. >> Absolutely. Chris, you can maybe work that out with, you know, we don't want to we don't want to compress committee the whole meeting. So there's no rush, but >> it come in in October to present to the board. So we can start having short presentations from Leslie or at least the director there. >> I mean just like a once overview like a >> sort of like almost an

057annual report. >> Dr. Marces, is he coming here about the changes? No, he's just coming here just to tell you what the IU does more than anything else. Less about the specific change. >> Okay. >> I think he wants to get out in front of schools. >> Yeah. >> Previous director necessarily didn't do that. >> That's a good idea. >> His goal is to come and get to know you. >> Sure. That's good. >> Okay. And then 14.06 uh Jamesburg Area Education Foundation annual report uh is also attached. And with that we are adjourned. Thank you.

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