001To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands nationy and justice for all. Thank you. Uh prior to this evening's meeting, the board met in executive session to uh discuss some legal matters and personnel matters and we covered everything. So we won't meet have to meet after the meeting, right? Okay. Uh item 2.03. Motion and second please for approval to adopt tonight's agenda. Move to approve. Second. Motion by Mrs. Goggler. Second by Mrs. Gaus. Questions, additions, deletions, comments, discussion. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Opposed. Eyes have it and so moved. 3.01 superintendence report. Mr. Bigger. Thank you, Mr. Norcross. Just want to thank the board. Um, every year we go through an annual review process. Um, certainly with all employees, but
002the board set board goals this year, and I do want to read them just to remind you that you set goals and we work towards them. We have our own goals in the district certainly, but they're in line with the schoolboard goals. So, you want to strive to improve academic achievement and social growth while instilling a desire for lifelong learning. So, reflect on the accomplishments we've made. allocate the needed resources to recruit and retain highly effective staff. Communicate openly and respect respectfully with all stakeholders and provide a safe and welcoming learning environment by enhancing physical facilities. And I think you can find a nice large body of evidence where we've made progress in all those goals. So, thank you for setting them, but also for following them and moving forward with the goals. It's nice
003for the organization to see that we have some some guiding light and direction that moves us forward. Um I do want to say from the first presentation that I did on the state of the district schools about a year ago until now we're moving out of phase one. Phase one we internally called more about the system enhancements. So essential conditions ramping up staffing providing more intervention staff the downtown engagement center. So we started to make some um systemic changes but we're going to shift to to more of the work. Yes, we have a great configuration, but we haven't built anything yet. Yes, we have architects on board, but we haven't made any decisions exactly what we're going to do. So, we're going to move more towards the action planning and implementation this summer. So, you'll
004feel a little bit more of the actionoriented approach uh from the school district. Um all for that point of making schools of distinction and we will get clear on what that looks like and what the options are available to our schools to become schools of distinction. There's more than one way to be a distinct school. and we do have diverse schools that allow some of those options moving forward. That concludes my report. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Bigger. Um just some uh board uh notes, public notes regarding the board. Uh there will be no meeting in July or no scheduled meeting obviously hope not, but if something pops up, we would meet. Right now, there's no planned meeting for July. To follow up on Chris's point in the August meeting, um start seeing a little bit
005more meat on the bone in regard to the schools of distinction. Um we'll start getting some more, you know, down into the weeds a little further, getting some more information. Um hopefully it's 240 million or even less, but uh that's a number I'll continue to just remind everybody of. Keep your everyone keep their eye on the ball. U until we get all bids in on three new structures, big structures in two years, we won't know what that total is. Uh we're hoping it's 240 million. Um we've requested some of the information. I'm not sure if we'll have that by August. Is a little more of a detailed breakdown of what these estimates involve. um you know different stages, the bidding stage, the actual construction stage, which is probably the hardest to estimate, but the least
006volatile. Um construction management, everything else that goes with it. So, we'll start putting some more more information behind the $240 million for each building, total of $240 million. Um, and then schools of distinction. Hopefully sometime maybe as the school year starts back, maybe we can get the students involved in uh how we're going to brand this rascal. Um, you know, some type of nice catchy slogan or something we can put on letter head, hang on the wall, put on the newsletter. Uh, if the taxpayers are going to shell out $240 million for buildings, uh, let's let's have a little bit of fun with it anyway. let the students be involved. So hopefully we can do that, but don't worry if we don't do it. I'll just keep talking about it. All right. And that concludes
007my report. Uh item 4.01, annual safety report. Uh Chief Carter, I I'll preface this a little bit. Um leadership Chris Fay and myself, we had a real brief discussion on this Friday. Um, and this historically briefing has been done in executive session because we never want to get into safety too deep into safety specifics and security. So, but it doesn't have to be an executive session. And it's one of my rules of thumb that uh for 12 years now I've tried to tried to practice what I preach. And it's not a matter of can you know should or shouldn't it be in executive session. If it if it can be in public then it should be in public. If it can't be in public well then it has to be executive session. but it can
008be in public. So, uh, we'll see how this goes. And, uh, you know, if Chief Carter has some specific things that are more executive session material, we can talk about that in August or some other time. But this is the annual report uh, required by uh, school law. Chief Carter. All right. Thank you. Um, we go ahead and get started. We're just going to these are some basics that we're going to cover. Our compliance uh, training, safe to say. These are the things that I'm going to be touching on uh throughout our uh our review. Um so currently we are in the process of of coming into compliance with uh with Act 44. Um we're still in the process of getting ourus uh returned from the state police and sheriff's department and Chambersburg burrow. They
009have theus uh they're the same thing that we do every two years. So that's we're updating that now. Uh there's not going to be any issues. They're just whether it's a town council or whether it's a a captain that has to sign them. So, it has to go through a process before we get those back. Um, couple things that we're doing is updating our all hazards plan. Um, I can uh happily report that all of our schools uh as of a month ago uh have had risk vulnerability assessments completed by the Pennsylvania State Police, including the DAO. Uh, so that would be all 18 of our buildings actually have had that done. That's one of the requirements uh from the uh from act 44. Just some things that we've done as far as ongoing safety
010technology projects. Um just wanted to touch on a couple things here. The the 3M coding uh our schools uh have that at this point in time. Door access management. Uh we've really worked hard on making sure our schools are safe and make sure our entrances are uh you know as robust as we can and we have a uh a visitor management and entry system. Uh, one thing that we added this year was uh, uh, Metrac's weapons detection systems, which we tried out in October. We actually purchased several of those systems uh, to be used uh, literally all over the district. This just just depends on um, you know, the the event or what we have going on, but they're mainly going to be for athletic events to start and then the possibility of of doing
011some uh, you know, scans and and things in our secondary schools. Uh and if we have elementary schools, some of those events uh we might uh use those those uh systems. They were actually purchased through grant funding um through PCCD grant. Uh so we did a lot of things this year with with our grants. Our meritorious grant, we bought uh more radios uh to have better communication throughout the district. And then with the PCCD grant, uh we actually purchased the weapons detection systems, our K9, uh and our handler, Officer Confer, uh was trained down in Texas with our K9 gunner. And then we also use some of those funds to actually bring on another uh school police officer uh this year. So, we've done a lot of things uh you know, as far as those
012grant funds go. Do have a picture of uh Officer Coner here in Gunner. Um he's actually presenting at at one of our schools here at South Hamilton Elementary. Uh which is a really good program. Uh some of the things that you see there uh he would actually um basically he would in those boxes that you see in that picture uh we would have some type of a uh of a of an agent that we would put in that in that box uh inert uh and then Gunner would actually find it and then what what it does is once he finds it uh it actually shoots a ball in the air. So, it's more of of catch and fetch for Gunner. The kids could see it. They can enjoy that. They asked a lot of questions.
013Uh, this group in particular, and we've done this across the district when we've been asked to do it, but this group in particular, uh, I'll bet you they asked a hundred questions about uh, everything you could think of about Will and Gunner, and uh, you know, Will was pretty pretty intimate with them by the time it was all said and done. But, we are doing some programming now. We're doing some searches in our secondary schools. Uh this is more of a community service uh service animal and K9 that we use for use it for and and more of a positive relationship builder especially in our elementary schools uh middle schools too. Everybody wants to pet the dog. So we're working through that process right now. It is a working dog so we have to be
014a little cautious of that because the last thing we would want is to have somebody uh you know surprise Gunnar or you know Gunnar turn on on somebody and actually bite him. So we're we're easing him into that process. He was just reertified in in uh uh June just last month uh over in York County. So the gentleman from Texas came and certified six canines from across the state. So we're certified for another year. So we're pretty happy to say that Gunner and and Will are doing really well right now with the program. So next is safe to say. Uh total safe to say incidents that we had was 218 or I'm sorry, yeah, 219 safe to says. And these incidents are uh through the safe to save program through the attorney general's office. Um
015life safety tips, we had 27 of those and they are the ones that we are um really concerned about. Not that we're not concerned about all of them, but they're life safety tips where students talking about harming himself. Uh so between us, uh PSP and the Chambersburg Burrow, every one of those gets worked individually. We make sure to get the principles involved, the counselors involved, uh so that there's a house check and a parent check and a student wellness check done on all those. So, um it's a it's a large number, 27, but in the grand scheme of things, um the number is very small, but we take those very seriously. The other one, non-safety tips, 192. Uh if you guys remember at the beginning of the school year, we had talked about um we
016had the one incident which brought us in over close to 50 uh what were threatening social media threats. Uh every one of them were very similar in nature. We worked that uh the whole way into North Carolina, Tennessee, uh you name it. We were tracking down social media tips to make sure that our schools were safe and our our kids and our our faculty were safe to come in. But we got 44 of those literally in a two-day span. So that's why our numbers are are high. If you take those 44 away, believe it or not, our safe to say tips are lower this year than than normal. So, you know, I feel pretty good about that. But what you have to understand about safe to say is it's anonymous reporting program. We want the
017kids and parents and faculty alike to be able to report things and we want them to actually report them. That way if there's something that's out there, we don't miss it. It's something that we wouldn't normally hear about. So we do encourage when we talk to the middle schools and we talk to the high schools, even the elementary schools, we started into some fifth grades, we encourage them to use that program even if there's any question because that way it gets looked at by law enforcement, children and youth, PSP, whoever it is. Uh all these tips are vetted. um you know either by principles or by law enforcement. So any questions on safe to say? I know I kind of touched on that one very quickly, but that's something that you know we we really
018like to to latch on to because it's a very uh good program for us. As far as our police department uh ourselves in from August of 2024 through June of 2025, we handled over 1100 incidents throughout our schools. And that can be anything from assisting staff, that can be talking to students, that can be presentations, meetings, speeches, you name it across the board. That's everything that we handle. Uh we also conducted approximately 1140 school visits. So that's our officers and really um that's four officers going to all of our schools as many times we can, whether it be daily, weekly, monthly. We try and tally those visits and get into the schools as much as we can just to show that our guys are are out there and being seen and and doing programming. Uh
019other things that we do, uh we attend all of our drills. You know, again, we're we try and go to uh football games, basketball games, our bigger events, um you know, as far as a police department goes. So, uh, some incidents, some types of incidents that we handled, uh, this year, uh, possession of tobacco. Vaping is a is a very large concern of ours. Uh, at all of our secondary schools, but our two middle schools, CMS and the high school. Uh, believe it or not, we have some kids bring alcohol into school sometimes, which is a very small number, but, you know, we have had a few of those. Another big one for us is our disorderly conduct. Disorderly conduct is when kids get into fights. um you know and unfortunately you know between us
020and and the administration we uh you know have to deal with those um possession of drugs we do have some kids that still dabble in THC uh in the in the vapes and also uh every now and then marijuana but it's mainly the THC and and the vapes unfortunately that we're we're dealing with uh weapons on school property uh they've all been knives uh we had I think almost 10 of those this year which is not a large number but it's still for me being a director of safety, that's 10 too many. But, you know, we have a lot of kids reporting things either through safe to say, uh, you know, or talking with teachers and teachers talking with principles and then them coming to see us. So, you know, we do a very good
021job of of working through that. So, some of these things are are investigations that that we've looked into this year. Uh, quickly, children youth referrals, uh, 459 total referrals this year for our entire district. Um, and literally they come in several a day, sometimes up to a dozen a day, fortunately or unfortunately. Um, you know, every one of these goes to children and youth. Then from there they're vetted out whether it's a law enforcement investigation, PSP, CPD or us. Uh, or they actually, uh, conduct an investigation either internally or where they're doing home visits, uh, you know, depending on the circumstances. But literally every school, uh, you know, we're mandated reporters, so you know, we're reporting things and and bringing things about. It could be for attendance. It could be for uh you know students
022aren't being um provided medical attention at home or what we believe is proper medical attention. So really it runs the gauntlet uh you know with those children youth referrals. So the larger schools have more referrals uh than the smaller schools. That's where some of the the numbers are. Uh one thing that we've really harped on in the last few years, last two years really is threat assessments and and screeners, suicide screeners and and screeners in general. Uh two years ago, we had our entire administration uh counselors, social workers trained by the FBI, uh the state police, and the Franklin County District Attorney's Office, and myself on the threat assessment process. Uh just June 2nd of this year, we actually brought back in the FBI. Uh same guy, his name is uh Special Agent Jeff Ford.
023Uh and we had him speak with Trish Majeski to our staff at North and South in reference to uh sex tortion. So, we've really partnered with them to work our way through this threat assessment process. And and I believe that we're uh we're really a lot further ahead than a lot of districts. But I'll show you some numbers here. And you know, the screeners can be any the screeners are um statements that a student made or uh you know, a student makes a threat that's not an official threat that we would look into maybe to arrest somebody. So, we're screening them, making sure that their mental health is okay, making sure that the threats are transient as opposed to substantiated. Uh, elementary, we had 50 of those and 16 assessments. Uh, middle two and with
024zero assessments. And the assessments are the true full-fledged threat assessments, which you want that number to be be minimal, especially at the secondary level. Um, and then at the high school level, we had four screeners and and five assessments. So, you know, our numbers are uh they seem high in elementary. Unfortunately for us at the elementary level. Um what we run into is kids say things that they don't really mean. So those numbers go up because you have to take all those just as seriously as you would anybody else. So what we're doing is we're putting social workers, possibly a psychologist. We're bringing the parents in and there's a group communication about a threat that's made. be amazed at how many um kindergarten through fifth graders say things that we want to look into and
025then we try and make them understand that what they're saying is not right or if they need services then we try and get involved and make sure that all those kids have services uh so that we can work our way through that process and there's no real threat to it. Anybody have any questions about that? Okay. Again, some school climate stuff. Act 55, we're up to date on our Act 55 training which is mandated. It's one hour in person, two hours of of virtual or online training, uh, which we've done very well with and that's been very well received. Um, you know, within our district, we do speeches, programming, awareness. We work with the Pennsylvania State Police and and the, uh, Chambersburg Police Department, uh, and and working through that. One thing that we did
026this year to try and uh you know build a little more trust in public health and safety was we actually had at Stevens Elementary a health and and public safety night uh where we we had uh I think it was 35 or 38 different vendors, police departments, um county agencies come in and just you know open themselves up to uh you know our students and our staff uh and the public. So I think the the event unfortunately was on a on a Tuesday night. There was a board meeting. There's a lot of stuff going on. It happened to be pretty a decent Tuesday. So, we had a good turnout, but we're hoping to build off of this and maybe rotate that around the district. Uh, but, you know, we had, you know, several hundred people
027actually attend that uh which we thought was a great event for us. Required drills and planning. So, as of uh the end of the school year, uh the drills that we run, run, hide, fight, fire evacuations, shelter in place, weather drills, and reverse evacuations, uh we did every school uh did the required drills. We had one that that uh couldn't get it in because of weather related things, but uh you know, we were 99.9% um on all of our drills. Uh you know, our officers try and attend those drills. Most of those drills, I shouldn't say most of them, those drills are mandated by law. So, you know, everybody, we don't want to take away from educational time, but at the same time, you know, we're running drills to try and be efficient, trying to
028make sure we communicate with kids, um, you know, safety related items and and things that we want them to be aware of, you know, in the event of an emergency. Um, just some individual things that we do and they're more our officers. I give them a to-do list at the beginning of the year and at the end of the year. Um, and we go through and and we kind of do our own risk vulnerability assessment of every school, every premises inside and out. and just take it a 20,000 foot view. So, our guys, you know, uh our officers do that uh at the end of every year and and just to make sure that, you know, we're on par with where we're supposed to be. And it might be something as simple as we have
029a run fight poster in every classroom. You know, we have evacuation stuff so that people know how to get to where they need to be in the event of an emergency. You know, we have numbers on our window. So there's a there's a whole litany of things that we actually do and we make sure that um and they're based on risk vulnerability assessments we receive back from PSP. So we try and be as as stringent as we can about, you know, all of our safety things, making sure our our rad we do a radio check every year. We collect and make sure the batteries are good. You know, we do a camera check every year, make sure there's nothing that's imposing any any uh any views of our cameras. So there's a ton of things
030that we do as far as safety and security. Um, I know I covered everything very quickly, but does anybody have any questions? Board members. Uh, yes, Chief. Great lay down. Thank you. Um, I have two questions. One is, uh, they're both related to evacuation. What is a reverse evacuation? So, a reverse evacuation is if you're outside, you evacuate back inside. Okay. Yep. So, that was easy. Mhm. Next one uh is there was an incident in Ohio a couple years ago that devastated the community because of a rail train accident and I happened to be looking at some tanker cars going by on the tracks that are just not too far away looking like it had a lot of hazardous stuff in them. And uh in the evacuation planning or tabletop exercises, is there a scenario
031where something like that happened? The prevailing wind, it would bring this toxicity into this area and you know, and then how do you get kids out of here to where they live and all that? And you thinking about that stuff? I'm kind of hoping you were going to put that together for me and give it to me tonight. I'll get I'll get on that road. No, I'm just kidding. That's that's kind of the the So we we've done larger tabletop exercises every year since I've been here except for this year. uh where we we have county control, we have fire departments. So we do everybody comes into the table and we actually work scenarios. Um I know from county uh you know you have the South Central Joint Terrorism Task Force that you know can
032bring a lot of resources. So we're in constant communication with them as far as um you know the whatifs uh and that is part of their plan. That's part of the hazmat team's plan. Uh you know Ford Indiantown GAP would be involved with that. So there is a plan for it. It's just it would start at our level and work its way up and then work its way back down. But yes, we do have a plan for all that. Thank you very much. Yes, sir. I had a comment. Um, of course, I when I'm I was going to say you're not going to talk about the fire drills again. Right along. Yeah. Yeah. No, seriously. And again, I want to thank you for this presentation and all the things that the uh that you're uh
033you guys do. I've seen it firsthand and what what y'all what you have to deal with. Um, not that it's bad, but I just saw how how all the um officers how they handle themselves and that was really uh uh it was great to see. Um, one of the questions I had, and this probably might not be for you, but it comes to the cameras, maybe for Mr. Kurpatre. I know we're talking about getting cameras on the um the buses for the arm or was that is that already been implemented or mean to put you on the spot, but we do have many of our buses, both Chambersburg and contractors, that already have the stop arm cameras and the new camera systems in them that are high definition. Uh, and we're still working on replacing
034some of the older ones as well. We kind of do little bits at a time. Yeah, we use those quite frequently if we have incidents on buses. We communicate with Craig, with us, with outside agencies, with principles. So, we're you I I don't want to say daily, but I mean we use them frequently and it's it's a great tool for us for sure. Yeah. Anything else? Other questions? Okay. I'll just have one final Thank you, Chief Carter. And uh thank you. I I mean, it's information. It's maybe stuff that some of the information you don't like to see or hear, but it is a reality. And I think it's better that we get an opportunity to share that with the public. Uh and my caveat to that, Chief, is, you know, if there's things that
035you've had to sanitize that you would like to brief the board on in executive session, we can do that any time of the year. We don't have to wait for an annual report. So, if there's any more anytime there's a time when there's more sensitive items, talk to Mr. Bigger and we'll just do it in executive session. Thank you, Chief. Thank you. Okay. Item 5.01. Members of the audience are invited to comment on agenda items. I'll use the list for those who've signed in, but as normal, if you didn't sign in and you still wish to speak, uh, you will get an opportunity. Um, Valerie Jordan, item 7.03, I think that is. I have two additional uh agenda items I'm going to address. Uh payment of bills. When one of your constituents complains about the
036rising cost of goods and services happening in our school district, please tell them you have no control over what Amazon charges our school district. That's the price of doing business with a billionaire. As for any cap associated with any future budget, all things are relative. You could have approved a budget at a 5% cap and wiped out the district's deficit. Deficits still have to be paid back. Vendors like Amazon need to be paid under the superintendence report. Thank you, Superintendent Bis figure, about addressing students and their futures. I recently came back from a a country and Americans live there. We are a global society. 9 million Americans live outside the United States. Uh, and they're happy. Everywhere I go, I meet Americans. And I've been to a lot of countries. Maybe 50, 60, I don't
037know. Maybe someday I'll visit them all because I'm on my way. Um, the other thing under the president's report, I do not want anyone in this room to be worried about $240 million. Here's why. It's going to be spread out over time. I can die next year and I don't have to pay the bond back. Okay, you're going to sell property that will pay off the bond. Pen National, a big contributor, is still building homes in my development and their million-doll homes. We have those people coming. Patty Neerhouse announced 59 more homes in one section. So, I don't want people to worry about debt. I've been paying debt since I've been paying taxes. Okay? I paid them back in New Jersey. I've been through a lot of bonding and I still live in my house.
038And one other thing, since I'm here, my school taxes over time have gone up $800. That's very reasonable because new people come in, new businesses come in, people improve their homes, they get reassessed. So, I think it would be advantageous not to scare people here because we need to do this for our students. And I hope I don't hear it again because if I hear it again, I'm going to keep repeating myself. Students need what they need. Thank you. Thank you, Mrs. Jordan. Any other members of the audience wish to speak on any agenda items? Okay. Okay. Hearing none, um go into section seven, consent agenda items. Um item 7.01 through 7.26. Um, first question is, are there any of those items that a board member would like to pull out of the consent agenda
039just for the purpose of a separate vote? Uh, andor any discussions or comments, you know, otherwise anything's on a consent agenda. It's one motion for all items, one vote for all items. Um, and we move on. Board members, any items that want anyone wants pulled to vote on separately or comment discussed separately? Um, I'd like to pull item 7.15 for a separate vote. Okay. I'd like to pull 7.21 for comment, perhaps some discussion. Any others? Yeah. Um 7.22 for a comment. Okay. And I'm going to I'm going to add 7.05 to that list. So, um of just the items that we're going to pull out of consent agenda will be 7.05, 7.15, 7.21, and 7.22. Are there any other items? 7.25 just for a comment and 7.25 others for clarity. If we're pulling 705, do
040we need to pull 704 as well? Well, I for what my purpose was, I mean 704 just takes it off the table and 705 is the vote on the actual take it off the table. Yep. Okay. But we can do that separately too if you'd like. It doesn't matter to me. I just Yeah. I don't know what the appropriate processes because they're tied. Sure. What was the first one, Mr. that you said? 705, 7:15, 721, 722, and 725. And I really appreciate the short version because I couldn't page through those pages quick enough. Okay. With the exception of those four five items, I'll read them again. 705, 7.15, 7.21, 7.22, and 7.25. A motion and second to approve the other items, please. Motion to approve. All the rest. Second. Motion by Mr. Haydock, second by
041Dr. Diller. Uh, let the administration, any comments or any of those items you would like to provide any information on to the board prior to the vote? Nothing from my end. Mark, anything? Tina, Tammy? No. Okay. Board vote. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Opposed. Eyes have it and so moved. Moving on to the five items we separated. Uh 7.05. First addendum to stipulation of settlement of tax appeal. Um Menoh Haven. Motion and second please. Move to approve. Second motion by Mrs. Goggler, second by Mr. Raber. Board members, questions or discussions? Uh my comment uh one of my reasons for wanting to pull this uh this is the second time around for this uh this is the first addendum, but this is the second time around for this agreement um with
042the taxpayer. Uh this is a renewal of an agreement that the board went entered into five years ago and it's a a renewal for another five-year term. Roll call, please. Mrs. Staler. Dr. Diller. Yes. Miss Goggler. Yes. Miss Gaus. Yes. Miss Harbaugh. Yes. Mr. Haydock. Yes, Mr. McKe. Yes, Mr. Norcross. No, Mr. Raber. Yes, Mr. Walker. Yes. Motion passes 8 to one. Thank you. Item 7.15, Chainsburg Area Education Association Collective Bargaining Agreement. Motion and second, please. Move to approve. Second. Motion by Mr. McKe, second by Miss Harbaugh. Uh Mr. Bigger, any comments from the administration? Then we'll turn it over to the board members. Um just general comments. Appreciated working uh with the association through the process. You know, it was four or five month process, covered a lot of topics. We're just thankful we
043worked in a collaborative environment. Uh the CAE has already voted and approved the contract. So, it's up to the board to vote it down or approve it. I do want to thank everybody that was involved. A lot of data analysis, a lot of discussion back and forth um that we thought was productive. We learned a lot about each other. We learned a lot about our struggles, but also some opportunities. So, just thank everybody for the process. Okay, board members, questions, comments, discussions. I just uh would like to say a few words. First of all, I'd like to thank everybody that worked on the contract and and I really believe the teachers um need a contract that reflects uh their ongoing dedication to working with their students. So, you know, thanks to all the teachers. So,
044it's difficult for me to vote on a teacher contract that is directly tied to the proposed 2026 27 school calendar. Therefore, mine will be a no vote. But it's not about the teachers, but my opposition is to the 2026 27 calendar. I believe the proposed calendar is not placing the academic instruction of our students as a priority. Okay. Other questions, comments? I'll go last. I won't go last. anyone else wants to talk about. Um I think the contract u terms are fair and uh we don't negotiate in public so I won't go into those details but it will be public soon enough uh officially public but uh I believe the uh the compensation and the terms are are fair and I support the compensation and terms. One thing again, we don't negotiate in public, but
045I've shared this comment in executive session with my fellow board members. I've probably said it in public several times over the past 12 years, too. And I go back to 12 years ago when I was at my first school board training. And Chris laughs at me every time because he was there. We were at the middle school, James Buchanan Middle School, one Friday night and Saturday for a day for two-day board training. all the districts in the county. And I don't remember who the facilitator was, but there's one part of that that still sticks in my mind. And the facilitator told us, you know, don't get too confused with being a school board member. I'm paraphrasing. You have two primary objectives. I add a third one to that. And they said, one, you approve a
046school calendar, and two, you approve a budget. The subset to two is you approve to pay your bills also. But to me, that's all budget. Two two primary goals as a school board director. Uh 12, you know, a little less than 12 years ago. I still remember that today. Uh I like to preach transparency and I hope I practice it. I probably don't practice it as much as I preach it and I apologize when I don't practice it. But when it comes to the school calendar, tonight is the first night this board will discuss school calendar in public. Uh, I just again, as Dr. Diller mentioned, this contract is tied to a calendar and we're going to vote on a contract and the board has never once discussed a calendar in public open session. So,
047that's why I will not be able to support the contract tonight, just because I think we are uh backwards from what I learned 12 years ago in my schoolboard training. Any other questions or comments? Okay. Roll call vote. Mrs. Salford. Miss Cogler. Yes. Miss Gaus, yes. Miss Harbaugh, yes. Mr. Hayda, yes. Mr. McKe, yes. Mr. Norcross, no. Mr. Raber, yes. Mr. Walker, yes. Dr. Diller, no. Motion passes seven to two. Okay. 7.21 2025 2026 third-party student placement agreement motion and second please move to approve second motion by Miss Harbaugh second by Mr. Hadock um anything from the administration first just just his question whatever his question is Mr. Yeah, it's really more of a comment than a question. When one looks at all the um external services that provided by other non-school entities, it looks
048like a lot. It looks very expensive and I think it'd be useful if the public knew exactly how difficult it was to do anything with some students and we just don't have the capability. And there might be a little more discussion about that from the staff the administration to indicate it is a challenge but it simply cannot be done in the district. So we must in fact pay the bill and these are probably the most um closest and convenient and efficient and effective organizations to do that. That's my only comment. And the only other components we try to put them all under one agenda item rather than filling up the agenda with one item for each one. And I appreciate that. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah, I appreciate that as well. I used to have to
049abstain from one because of conflict with the family member on a board, but I don't have to do it anymore. [Music] Any other questions or comments? Item 7.21. All those in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Eyes have it and so moved. 7.225 22 2025 2026 ATSI school improvement plan. Dr. Long, first tell me what that acronym stands for. That's all right. I don't know either. So I I know you just caught me off guard. I'm sorry. That's okay. It doesn't matter. Sorry. Tell me. Tell me in August. Academic targeted student improvement. Thank you. Whoa. All right. Was that a double jeopardy question? I think so. What What is ATSI? All right. Questions, comments? Someone had a Yeah, that was my uh question here. Oh, wait. We didn't do a motion and second. No,
050we did that. Motion and second, please. Motion to approve. Second. Motion by Mr. Hick, second by Mr. McGee. Sorry, I jumped the gun on my question. Dr. Long. Mr. Hock, your question or comment, please. Yeah. Um, I detected from looking at the voluminous amount of information that's on that report that there are improvements being made, but often I would see that the improvements fall very far short of where the target is. And I'm wondering if in the future we might have a graphic that would depict a projected improvement line and then our actual tracking with that line to see if we're kind of on track because just looking at the the data itself is very difficult to make that kind of distinction. That's my only comment. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? Okay,
051roll call or not a roll call, excuse me. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Eyes have it and so moved. Item 7.25, gifts, grants, and donations. Motion and second, please. So moved. Second. Motion by Mrs. Gal, second by Dr. Diller. Questions, comments? My my comment is simply that the gifts, grants and donations is on almost every month and I feel that we need to publicly every month but I don't do it express appreciation for what the community is doing for the district. I particularly want to call your attention to the feeding schools kids initiative. you know how near and dear to my heart uh school lunch breakfast programs are and this money uh over 12 almost $13,000 is a donation from Giant to reduce student debt for meals and I just
052feel that every single one of the donors need to be um aware of our appreciation for what they give but I especially am impressed with that figure to reduce school lunch or school debt, meal debt. Um, I've got a comment off of that. Great segue. Um, yeah, I agree with you, Mrs. Goggler. And, um, but I'd also like to clarify when I pay my bill at the giant and I'm asked do I want to donate to, and that's where my money's going, right? That's correct. Thank you. I'd like to thank Bethl Assembly of God. We have a substantial donation from them on this particular report, $5,500 to improve the press box at the Trojan Stadium. And I think that's a huge deal for us. Um, so thank you to that local church. Uh, I think
053they're adjacent to one of our elementary schools, Ben Chambers. So, it's pretty cool to see them pitching in like this. Yeah, that that's why I said every month we need to be publicly thanking the many people and it's only because the school meals are so important to me personally because of my concern for um food insecurity and so forth that I point out that one. It's not to diminish even the smallest donation. Oh, sir. Yeah. Okay, other comments. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. I. Opposed. Eyes have it and so moved. Item 8.01 2026 2027 school year and 2027 2028 academic school year calendar. Mr. Bigger. Actually motion and second. Excuse me. Move to approve. Second. Motion by Mrs. Goggler, second by Mr. Hayden. Mr. Bigger, now your turn. Yep. Um,
054over the last six to eight months, uh, long process, lots of people involved. Um, lots of moving parts and, um, I think over time, we made adjustments. We listened to feedback, uh, made as many adjustments as we could to make it work and still honor some of the, um, components that we do need. I will make just one you pretty direct comment about the calendar. The number one determinant of student achievement in the classroom is the quality of the teacher. Uh that's the single piece of research you can take from any research. So hopefully this over the next two years as we ramp up schools of distinction, we modernize our curriculum, we look at some changes in how we teach that this time will be utilized very well to move us towards that direction and
055then re-evaluate it after the two-year window um to see if a traditional calendar is more appropriate at that time or continue moving forward. I think I've done enough visi and presentations and um a couple public forums on this to know where what all the information is that's out and available. If there are additional questions the board can ask, I'd be more than happy to answer. Okay, board members. Mr. Hick. Yeah. Um, I spoke to a lot of people, uh, parents, students, teachers in the district, and teachers that have just retired from the district asking questions about um, their perception of this new calendar. And I was encouraged by what I heard. I also would like to say that I think there's a lot of information on social media that is not correct. And a lot
056of people take that information and run with it, and it gets disseminated. It's causes some problems. Um but personally uh I reflected on how we got to where we are with student performance and it's with the traditional calendar and I think an opportunity to change might make a difference and if it doesn't but we can revert back to traditional but do we have a backdoor to get out of it if it doesn't work out but um if what we've been doing for many many years got us here, I don't think we're going to get much of a change if we continue to do that. So, I say let's give it a try. That's why I would vote yes on that proposal. Other board members, most of you know my uh phrases that I like to
057use. One that I want to use in this case is continuity gives us roots and doing the same thing is that continuity and we have roots but change gives us branches letting us stretch and grow and reach new heights. and we aspire to have new heights in our schools of distinction by 2030. And without change, I don't see that we're going to reach those schools of distinction. Um, and so I am 100% in support of the attempt to improve our professional development and the u impact that that's going to have on students I think is going to result in improvement. I'm in agreement. Um I think and I had some discussions with uh was Harbaugh also on this topic and I think that uh a lot of I don't do well with change a lot
058of different times I'll come home from the gym and my wife has moved furniture around. Good lord. you get up in the middle and I'm going to I know I'm going to crack my toe on on a you know a piece of furniture that I didn't realize was there but in the end I you know got over it each time and I'm not equating you know moving this school calendar around to moving furniture. I know it's way more complicated than that, but I think we have bigger um issues at stake when it comes to educating our kids and uh and um this is our attempt to, you know, get us heading in the right direction. Uh so there's going to be some growing pains. go through. Not too many busting our toe on on the
059end table or whatever's in the way, but um I just encourage us all to lean into it and um recognize that we're we're everybody here is trying to do what's what's best for our children's education. So, okay. Well, I have I have some information here that I I pulled together that I'd like to put out to the to the public because of the mis of the misinformation that people speak about. Um during the 2022 to 23 school year, our students in the Chambersburg school district attended school 180 days. During the tuning 24 to 25 school year calendar, it was taken down to 176 school days, which was a loss of four days. And at the time I sat on this board, I thought, well, that's okay because we need some inservice on those four days.
060They probably need that inservice. And so I didn't I didn't say much of it. I recognized it. It was it would just went smoothly that those four days were removed for the kids and nothing nothing was said. But now we want to propose taking out another four days and replacing it with 15 minutes at the end of the school day. So the way I've been looking at it is I've tried to wrap my head around it. I' I've I've tried the wise. Why are we doing this? and that loss of eight student days. You know, I taught second grade and I know what it's like to teach reading and how important that is. Taught first grade. Um I'm a reading specialist and if we don't get our kids reading by third grade, we're in trouble
061and taking away those eight days is a concern of mine. Another thing is we have been making up snow days. So if we have four days that we lose in that in the school year, suppose we lose it in January or February, those those four days now make it 12 days, but they'll make it up at the end of the school year, which everybody knows at the end of the school year is not a good time to be making to for education. It's just not. So there's the possibility that our kids are going to be out of going to school for eight days. We've already lost the eight from the original calendar and and and and we're going to put these 15 minutes on at the end of the school day. Those 15 minutes on
062the end of the school day basically equate to the eight days that that we're not going to have it in school. For me, I want to see those kids in school on Fridays. I don't want them home sitting lounging at home trying to keep them off of their computers and their games and that stuff. it's very important that they're in school, especially for your K1 and two kids. So, I say to myself, is adding 15 minutes to the end of the school day more educationally sound for students? And I say to myself, I I can't go there. I just can't go there. I I've been in education for 40 years. I can't I can't say yes to this. And you know, in all my decisions in education were what's best for students. Well, it's best
063for students to be in the classroom and not home on Fridays. Some of those kids will not be attended. We have 300 homeless kids. We have special education kids. We have needs that kids need to be met. So then I pulled out the data. I looked at where are we at the end of third grade in reading and nine nine schools in our school district are at below 50 50 or percent or below. Two of our schools only have 21% of their third graders at the end of 2023 to 24 who are proficient. So, if we line those kids up, 10 kids, seven of them are not proficient at the end of the school year, and we think it's fine to take those days out of school. Well, I just would hope that this board
064would consider putting back some of these school days, even if we put four back, that would be a start. That would be a help. And then, why are we doing a two-year calendar? Why are we not evaluating at least after the first year? Um, I I don't know. And I agree. The most important thing in the classroom is a quality teacher. I totally agree with that. And that makes all the difference in the world. But why would we take away those days from a quality teacher when they can be sitting there with those kindergarten, first graders, and second graders and make sure that we get them reading on grade level. Because when we don't, we are causing them to have lots of problems going through school because everything is based around reading. You can get
065the math, but once you've missed out on the phonics and the writing and all those things that go into it, you're destined for a hard time in school. And many kids do have a hard time in school. And I I've heard from a lot of people, but there are a lot of people out there that kids are going to be hurt by this. And I've tried in many ways. I've sat counted up hours. I've gone through staff development lists. I've looked at calendars. I've I've really put the time into my husband said, "Can you stop looking at this?" And uh so anyway, I I have to vote no to this this calendar because it's not the decision is not about kids and they should be first. Chris, I'd like to ask you a question for
066clarification. um going through and and looking at the sideby-side presentation that was given um and looking at that it it's my understanding that with these proposed calendars that the students will actually spend more time in the classroom in front of their teachers 36 hours more than the traditional calendar that we currently have. Is that accurate? That's correct. That's Can I one way? So just it really just depends on where you put the time. Okay. So, the potential is there. Yes. That students would be spending 36 additional hours in front of their teacher with this proposed calendar than what they are right now, which could maybe assuage some of the concerns that people have about them losing time in the classroom because clearly they would not be. Is that an accurate? Correct. when you looked at
067just straight classroom time, absence where you put the 15 minutes, yes, we will report to the state more classroom instructional hours. Okay. At the end of the year, okay, thank you for the clarification. Can I add to that? Um, when you we look at 180 school days and the eight days, if you add up the time in the eight days and you add up the hours in the eight days, those extra hours that Stephanie's talking about, it's a wash. It's equals the same. It's very close. It's 36 more hours because the early dismissal days are removed as well. Say that again. The early dismissal days were removed, which was a net negative in the old hours. Oh, so you So you have to add the hours back in from the early dismissal. So then it
068would only be the early dismissal hours that would be the extra, not 36. It's 36 total more hours. Add up what you pulling out from early dismissal. Yeah. When you add up They reconfigured some of the vacation. Correct. The side by side shows you hours versus days. Correct. Each month as it goes. That's correct. It's a good presentation. And what year was that comparison? This year, this traditional calendar this year, the year we just concluded. No, we did a traditional for 27 or 2627 and a updated what it would be in sorry, what it would be in 2627 versus what it would be in the proposed new calendar. And it's side by side. So, in some instances, and Chris, you can correct me. I'm not exact in the numbers. You have the same amount of
069days in each month, but maybe an hour different. That's correct. And one of the months, and I'm pretty sure it's April or May, you actually have a significant jump in the hours because April. Yeah. April, is it April? So, you have a significant jump. You have the same amount of days, but because you're adding the 15 minutes in, you have that jump. So, when it's all told, adding the 15 minutes, getting rid of the two-hour early dismissals, it's 36 hours, correct, net positive, that students will be in the classroom. Yeah. I just one other thing I'd like to say. If we think that these 15 minutes at the end of the day is so valuable and it's in the contract for the next two years, why don't we have the 15 minutes plus add some
070Fridays back in so that we get even more instruction because our our results in our district would lead one to believe that having more time would be beneficial, especially when people think that this 15 minutes is going to make a big difference educationally. And I've been in the classroom and I know what 15 minutes does for you. Is it still the intention uh to use some of those Fridays for intervention purposes possibly or not at this time? No, that's okay. Just that was the first calendar proposal. More aggressive on that. Okay. That is something that we could circle back to though. If there's a concern about reading by third grade or kids being behind, there's not any reason that we can't approve this. The contract has already been approved. We There's no reason we can't
071approve this. and then circle back to that concept even a year from now. That's correct. But this is a two-year venture that you're going out, not one, two. But even within this framework, you could add that component. I also know how that goes. Is that right? Yeah. I mean, you Yeah, you have the authority, the board has authority to make changes to the calendar. Sometimes when we have a lot of snow days, we come and update it in in February. Mhm. So generally my approach has always been give the parents and and families and community enough notice in advance multiple years and they can respond whether it's a vacation whether it's an adjustment you know looking out multiple years is really helpful to them go ahead I'm sorry Mr. McKeen. Yes. Let me say I
072appreciate how you put that together for us to see. That was very I'm a visual person and it was very well done. The question of course I get asked what about you know what's going to be you know child care you know it's extra child care you know whatever are there I know right now some in the districts after school you have your YMCA or your if and if I'm you know help is there going to be any look at that you know for the families that may need or whatever I I'm just asking I think from the first counter the answer was yes. We were looking down. We had met with a couple vendors as well as with the Y and the Boys and Girls Club. We were starting that, but because we moved
073it to 15 minutes only of an increase and also moved a couple days back in, we didn't think the change was as substantial. When you look at the disruption of the early dismissals in addition to inservice in a traditional calendar, there's less disruptive days. You had 12 before plus the inservice days. So, you were you push in that 17 18 19 number. Um and now we're at the 10 uh during the school year and service days with two days at the end of the year for early dismissal for graduation and last day. So total days disruption for families is less in comparison traditional when you add the early dismissals and the inservice days. So with the less disruption in days, we felt that was you were talking about direct 80 days. Correct. That is correct.
074Okay. Okay. I just wanted to make sure I understood that's what I thought. Okay. Thank you. I personally I kind of preferred the original proposal that you had slightly more than this because it did give you more of a framework that you could work with to build out a number of concepts that were being discussed. Um so but I also understand that why you went back to the drawing board and yeah I think it I think it makes sense. One of uh one of the ways I've thought about this as a parent um if so we could talk about school days. You can also talk about the inverse of that. So right now as a parent I have to figure out child care. I mean I don't often think about it as child care. I
075think about it as parenting. But somebody needs to be home whether it's my wife or I or somebody else. Right. Uh right now in a typical year it's 189 days. This new calendar will change that to 193 days. I think about that as it look if you just do the math on that as a 2% increase. And so if I as a parent can find a way to do 189 days, I think that most parents can find a way to do 193. It's still an increase, right? And we're not trying to be insensitive to that, but I don't think that 2% is a game changer for most people. there are lots of other factors that are actually more significant in creating child care difficulties uh for people. Um so that's kind of how I've come
076to be at peace with that particular piece of it which which is crucial and important with the Sure Mr. Walker with the new with this new calendar. This also gives us um the ability to to grow the teachers. Yeah. Right. And if we're saying that, you know, the number one factor is the quality of the teacher, I think we also need to invest in our teachers and make sure that they're growing as well as the students are. Yeah, I keep circling back to that. If this improves the quality, then the quantity is less important. Um, I don't know that 15 minutes in and of itself is a game changer. I think it partially depends on how you use that. That's correct. For our youngest kids, I'm a little concerned to be honest, but there's nothing
077in this that says you can't use that to do additional breaks with kids or add movement into their calendar so that that 15 minutes is not exhausting. You know, they're some I've heard from a number of parents with young kids and I have some myself that their kids are zapped at the end of the day. And I think that's often true, right? But if you use the time better, they might not be as zapped even even with adding 15 minutes. Um, so but you don't get there without the professional development. You don't get there without improving the quality. Um, okay. Miss Gaus, any comments? Um, I appreciate um all the work that the staff and the community, PTAs, the the forums, all the work that's been done, and this is like iteration five or six,
078pleasing so many people, trying so hard. Um, it's about the quality, it's about the relationship with the community, it's about accurate information being received, which you've put out time and time again. Um, I'm new here, but I think we have a lot of catching up to do. Um, and that happens in the classroom, that happens with quality teachers, administration, and buy in from the community. And I think you've done an outstanding job. And thank you to the community as well. Okay, before I get into my comments, uh, I'll back up a little bit. Some of my previous comments I've made, and Chris often coaches me up on this, but I continue to not listen to him on this one. He tells me I allow I allow the board to talk too much. I like streamline
079the conversation. I tell the board all the time, I'm going to let you all talk as much as you want because that's what I think we're here for. Uh, so I I sit back and I'm just willing to let you talk because that's what I think we're all here to do. Um, as part of our public service. Uh, with that said, as I mentioned in my previous comment on item 7.15, it's a bit of a chicken versus egg scenario here. Uh, you have contract negotiations, you have calendar. Um, as you could hear from the board discussion and again, thank all the board members. I think it was a very robust good conversation. Uh I wish like no one's business that we could have had more of these conversations, discussions in public, not behind closed doors.
080Um I think that would have been helpful for all of us. I know it would have been helpful for me, but we're and you can't negotiate in public. So that's the other part of this chicken versus egg. It was really a fine line that that everyone had to dance through. Um couple one thing very early on in the process uh we were provided um again you heard there were sever several iterations of this contract. Um it started with maybe a 30 minute uh more 30 minutes more per day. Um but I remember an early document that we saw and we always hand these documents back in so they don't leak out into the public. Uh this was presented as a potential 1 to 3% cost savings. That was some meat on the bone to to
081this fiscal conservative guy. Uh and it it perked my ears up. And this process has been going on four months now. Four months plus or minus. Uh I've never seen any of that documentation to see, you know, is it 1%, is it 2%, is it half a percent, what what is what is that savings, if there are any savings? Um it was a great you know flash card to start with but I haven't seen any information since then. Um some comments that board members have made here uh educating our kids student performance uh quality. I know there was you know discussion and we had this discussion a lot uh outside this boardroom on you know how do you measure minutes hours you know Mrs. mentioned quality. Is it quality of education versus quantity? And when
082I say quantity, are we talking days? Are we talking minutes? Are we talking hours? Quite frankly, I do not know. Personally, I tell people all the time, I build roads and bridges for a living and I'm pretty proud of it. That's why I say it. Um, but uh with that, I just have I I struggle. And then on a personal note, when I look at the calendar, and you can't always tell because of Memorial Day, because Memorial Day isn't always on the 31st. I think that changed in the Nixon administration before I was born. But, uh, you know, I just, you look at the calendar, you know, no snow days, then, you know, students come back, you know, a half a day after Memorial Day, and then we're done. I know many many years ago
083when we first moved up the start of the school calendar in public discussion when we approved the calendar the the goal was try to get it done ahead of Memorial Day I guess the unofficial begin to beginning of summer. Um I I kind of grew to like that myself and I don't have any children in district now but I thought that was neat. Um and again I love this discussion tonight. I just wish we could have had more of it earlier, sooner. Uh if we could have put as much effort into this discussion as we did uh schools of distinction, I think we would have been further ahead. I think the community would have been further ahead. And u you know, it's it comes down to informed decisions. And when you build roads and bridges
084like I do, I just still don't have enough information to make that informed decision. And and that'll be the reason for my no vote this evening. So with that, Mrs. Stalford, roll call, please. Miss Harbaugh, yes. Mr. Haydock, yes. Mr. McKe, yes. Mr. Norcross, no. Mr. Raber, yes. Mr. Walker, yes. Dr. Diller, no. Miss Goggler, yes. Miss Gaus, yes. Motion passes 7 to2. Item 10.01, 01 policy and legis legislation. Uh discussion on policy 707. We'll see if he's still there. Okay. Yeah. Uh we're going to take a pause because I missed the step in the consent agenda. Uh so the president gets I don't know 30 60 minutes after school detention or after board meeting detention or something. 15 minutes. 15 minutes. Yeah. Uh yeah, 15 minutes versus a Friday or four Fridays, whatever you
085want to call it. Eight Fridays. Yeah. Right. Uh anyway, I was supposed to do this after the um um staffing part of the consent agenda and I forgot. So I don't know is Mr. Go ahead, Mr. Rod, are you there by any chance? Rod Bern, I you tried to call in. We see you there. Uh we know someone's there. Uh we're just trying to see if you're you're you're out there. Uh Rod is our new high school principal. Uh approved tonight. He wanted to be here uh to meet you in person, but he had a planned vacation, but he wanted to call in just to say hi. Uh so I really respect him for wanting to do that. Um but we're we're trying. Oh, there you go. Rob, we can't hear you yet. We hear
086you in the background by the sound guy, but we don't hear you in the public. So, he's still working on it. Not yet. They're working on it. Keep at it. Be patient. Not yet. Rod comes to us from from Manheim uh Central. He was assistant principal there for three years while he's trying to get the sound. Uh went through a rigorous process and he was the nomination. Um got to meet him uh once. He has done a tour of the high school. He's met some people. Very interesting uh uh gentleman. Lots of years of experience. He's a math teacher. 32 years. He's more of a veteran. He doesn't like being called that, but uh he's more of a veteran. A lot more to give back to the public school system. And we're excited to have
087him. Um I think he's fits the bill for what we're looking for right now. And uh so happy he um decided to apply. And he is has some local roots that I think he wants to talk about if we can get him. You want to do a microphone just back in the speaker back there? Yeah, I'll take mine. Sorry. Go ahead, Rod. Go ahead, Rod. Give it a try. Might have to take a rain check though to all this. Yeah. Go ahead. Try one more time. Can you hear me? Yes. There we go. Go ahead. We can hear you. Go ahead. Okay. So, can you hear me now? Yes. Yes, we can hear you. Yeah, I can hear you, but can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Go ahead, Rod. Okay. So, good
088uh good evening. I am currently in Salt Lake City, Utah. Uh I'm at a conference uh called Facts Elevate. I'm one of the presenters. I just want to thank you for the oppos opportunity to serve as principal of the high school. I'm honored to join the team and I'm excited to get started. My goal is will always be to support the students and staff and families by building strong relationships and creating a positive, safe, and focused school environment. I look forward to listening, learning, and working together to help every student succeed. Thank you so much for inviting me tonight. I'm honored to join the team and I'm excited to get started. My goal is always to support students and staff. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Bren Eyes. And uh my apologies for the delay. I guess
089see in person. Thank you. Yep. Are we good or do we have no echo? I still hear a little echo. No. No. Okay. All right. Uh item item 10.01 uh discussion on policy 707 updated administrative regulation. Uh that one was just a promise to bring back to the board. That is the um the school facilities use of facilities update. So no major changes to it at all. That's just a promise to bring it back to the board. We delayed it, I believe, in the fall to bring it back this spring and here we are almost summer. So, it's up for any discussion or comment. No change, just informationational unless the board wants to revisit changes. We have a report on like revenue from this. Um, actually I just ran the revenue report uh this morning
090and we have uh generated just under $50,000 through the a facility rental policy. Um, that does not include uh the classrooms that we rented at Luren uh to River Rock, but this is just through the uses of the facilities. Does, excuse me, does that include the uh the money for the custodial and the revenue that's coming in? It would if they were paying for custodians, we would be booking it to the same revenue account. So that's in total deducted from the 50 or is that that's just revenue. We didn't I didn't run that number yet. Yeah, we're not through the end of the year. You know, it might be great to have a number that doesn't include the custodial at some point. Just just a net a net number is what you're asking. Yes. Because
091the custodial you you know that's not income because you have to pay it back out. Does that include the the banking arrangement? That's separate from the 50,000. That would be separate. Yes, that's a separate agreement. Okay. Any other discussions? Discussion. No vote. Correct. I was just to bring it back up as promised. Okay. Item 10.02. This will be a vote. First reading of policy. Motion to approve first reading of policy 707 which we just discussed and 719. Motion to approve. Second. Motion by Mr. Hick, second by Mrs. Gogler. Questions or discussion? All those in favor signify by I have a question. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Sorry. A little late on the draw there. That's okay. So, I I want to say I am not a drone expert by any stretch, but I suspect there may
092be a requirement to register drones with the Federal Admin Aviation Administration. And the requirement is if it's a drone that weighs more than 0.55 pounds, which is a little over a half a pound or 250 grams and up to 55 pounds requires that registration with the FAA. Maybe there's an exemption I'm not aware of, but I didn't see anything with respect to that registration in the policy. So I suspect that might be an opportunity to just do a little more research and check that out. So just for clarity, you want to see if there is a weight requirement for the registration to add to the policy potentially. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. I was excited to see this policy because an organization that I'm affiliated with uh just uh provided funds for a project in
093another county school um where the teacher photographed uh farmland surrounding the school and did a really neat presentation to our organization about the project that she used the funds for these drones. And the educational value um that she demonstrated in the project that she used our money for was really impressive. Okay. Any other discussions? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Opposed. Eyes have it. So move. Item 10.03, second reading for policies. I'm g skip the zeros. Policy one, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 6, 626. Motion and second, please. Approve. Second. Motion by Dr. Diller, second by Mr. McKe. Questions or discussions? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Eyes have it and so moved. Item 11, new business discussion only. Uh board members. Um this is
094your uh share show and tell ABL lib time. Any items for discussion? Yes, ma'am. Uh, I received an email regarding a volunteer opportunity related to the uh, NJRTC program, and I'll forward the email to all of you tomorrow. I am suggesting that as board members, we consider participating with Commander Bruce Apgar and the NJRTC cadetses in a community activity that's scheduled for early September. Uh I'm suggesting that we consider having teams of two or more board members who would assist with the various activities that are listed on that uh email request for volunteers. My suggestion is based on a desire for increased teamwork beyond the board table. Interacting with students and other members of the school community as their board representatives has a been a great experience for me personally as I've attended PTO meetings,
095participated in book readings and various other events in my region. Um the kindness tunnels that we all participated in last year as an organized event and some uh participated in this year uh was another example of being out in the community and one of our goals is to have communication with stakeholders and students are stakeholders, the uh general public are stakeholders and so I really believe that being involved in something like this project would be very beneficial. The reason I re received the email and possibly the rest of you didn't is that I participated in two volunteer activities with the NJRTC and have been on their mailing list and so on. I'm not sure if any of the rest of you receive that communication from Commander Apquar or not, but I will make sure that
096you receive the email tomorrow. And um I think it's a real opportunity and getting um a working relationship among us in other ways other than just here at the board table I think has a opportunity for team building among us. Thank you. Uh like to comment on that. Thank you, Mrs. Goggger. I agree. It's a great opportunity. Um I have participated personally for two years now into the NJOTC death march. It's a misnomer. No one died, but it is a challenge. But to see the interaction between the leadership u the uh staff with the students and the cadetses um and to see the discipline and the leadership that they're developing of their own award is fantastic. And if anything in our district we can be proud of it's that program and it's growing and there's
097other students from outside the district want to be into it. And uh I say welcome them all. Other items, board members. Mr. Ra. Yeah, I have another one. Um I noticed this week there was a tree in between the cashes parking lot and cashes along McKinley Street that was cut down. And I've noticed uh in Chambers where sometimes trees come down with good reason and sometimes they don't. they just come down because people don't understand the value of a tree. This one happened to be coming down with good reason. I think uh it was partially dead and was really creating a safety issue. Um so I'm glad glad it was taken down. The team that was working on it, they looked like they did an excellent job. So thank you to all of those folks.
098I uh I've seen several trees come down on school property and I've not seen trees go up. And I'm I'm just curious to know, is there something we could do to be more intentional on that front? Every time we take down a tree, we plant two new ones because I think we're working from a deficit where for a long time, anytime I've seen one go down, I've not seen anyone. And it's not that I've never It's not that there's no new trees anywhere on district property. Um, our PTO I'm involved with, we planted a bunch not too long ago. So, but I just wonder what what's our approach there and you know just trying to because there there's tons of value um from a number of I don't think I need to get into that
099here. I think we all understand that. But if we could be more intentional as a district about adding more trees, I think that'd be a real win. So, I don't know if there's a need for a policy. When we do the buildings, they'll be telling us to put a lot of trees in through the process of permitting. I mean, you're you're saving on heating and cooling. Um, a lot of um guards and I forget what they call that when you put um for houses when the cars pull in it blocks. Um, help me out. Come on. Help you out. You mean for noise? Noise reduction, but also for lights and cars related to residential. When you pull into Yeah, it's a permitty thing. You get storm water credits for them too for your new storm
100water facilities depending on how you do it. You know what I'm proposing is something that you could get students involved with. You could get PTO's involved. It doesn't have to be entirely on the district either. I think there are creative ways to do it. Um, and you could incorporate it into a science lesson, right? So, I do know it can take work to plant trees. It's not If it didn't, we'd be planting them as soon as we leave the meeting. Yeah, I concur with that. Uh, Mr. RA and u I think we we're seeing a growth of asphalt in parking lots around the community and uh too few trees and I'm thinking this is the kind of stuff I would like to see a club the environmental club get involved in and maybe give us
101a report. Those are the kinds of reports from clubs I'd like to see in the future. Um second though it's not really new business but I want to thank uh Dr. long for the uh planning and the execution of the trip to the Dallas Town Intermediary Elementary School. It was a great opportunity to see um in my mind the vision of what uh Mr. Bigger brought to the district about you know the changes in store and it's a the Dallas Town facility was awesome and uh it was a very very uh well spent day and uh thank you very much Dr. All right. Couple items I have. Two items I have on my list. One of them is sort of a carryover from previous discussion. Uh consent agenda 7.25 when we're discussing gifts, grants, and
102donations. I think one of the takeaways I heard from that and this I throw this out to my fellow board members uh you know if we want to make that a separate item that's something that we put in section 9 finance and facilities because usually it's a donation it's a donation so it's finance and it's usually sometimes it's for a facility I don't know where that would fit but going forward is that something the board would instead of then we don't have to don't want to have to every me every month pull it out. If it's something we want out, let's just take it out and Chris, you can decide which category it fits in if that's okay with the board. Yeah, I agree. Okay. Uh my last my second item um you know, and
103I've often made comments when we get our when we hear our naming rights uh presentations about, you know, we I think we instituted that darn thing in 2016 time frame, something like that. and we've never ever updated uh the rates. Um so I'll keep preaching that, but I guess I hear there's something in the works similar to that. I mentioned it earlier when we were talking about uh policy 707 here just a couple minutes ago. Uh you know, we do have space in the high school where financial institution uses it and we receive revenue for that too and that has not changed in many many years. So, I just if that's something that we should be looking at too, uh, you know, the price of everything goes up unless you're using something at CASD and
104then we just keep the price the same. Uh, that doesn't seem fair to to the taxpayers and uh, yes, two of our jobs, approve a calendar and approve a budget which includes tax increases. I don't know. No, I agree. Okay, they were my items. Anyone else? Last call. Um information uh superintendent evaluation. Mr. Bigger mentioned that in his report for Mr. Bigger and the assistant superintendent that was completed um this past month. That's item 13.01. 13.02, disposal of books, equipment, and supplies. That's for information only. With that meeting's adjourned. Thank you.