001foreign okay uh we have three items on our study session agenda first one is tentative capital outlay budget so we'll turn the time over to Rob and his team to take us through that all right president hacken thank you so much we're going to start off with the 2024 yes the 2024 capital budget recommendation and before Jason leads us through the discussion I just want to say I have got the best team they're all here behind me look at and I just turned around I was like yes they are so awesome and and I told them you are welcome to come and we'd love your support but it is an invitation not an expectation and they all accepted the invitation so they're just wonderful people it's my privilege to work and support and serve them
002and they care deeply about the work they do to support you as board members the superintendent this leadership team our principals one of our principals is here and ultimately our students and they care deeply about what they do and they're imperfect people doing the best work as perfectly as they can and still seeking Improvement so with that is kind of a lead-in we're excited to be here and share with you a couple of things um there's always more requests at the end of the money and that's been more evident this year the capital budget process is probably as frustrating as any process that we've had because there's a lot of requests in the resources went quickly one of the reasons is because of the principal and interest payment we need to set aside for new
003middle school and five million dollars worth of portable classroom purchases and so and that's been a challenge and anybody on the budget committee will Echo that but I think what we've got is is the best you can come up with and then some ideas of future revenue is so with that Jason will take over yes would you mind just introducing your team absolutely I would just like to have them I would love to be recognized Jason sunberg you know he's my assistant business administrator director of budgets Roberts uh Boyer he is one of our directors he's over the reporting and compliance in and um I remember having Robert on our team he thinks differently than he asks questions and I love that about you we love having her on our team some of you know
004her from schools and Years Gone by yeah apologize she's fabulous she's our director of training and support for our secretaries our accountants our principals and she's just awesome I love having her her experience of voice on our team has been just a breath of fresh air um Austin address he is our new senior accountant that's working with Robert under the compliance and Reporting end he just completed his CPA awesome um so congratulations to Austin um and he's fabulous young man and has done a great job in our budget team and now we'll be doing it if you roll Derek Barnes Derek is our director of analytics and business metrics and he does our enrollment projections and lots of other stuff we stole him from Transportation sorry Kimberly nebaker I think most of you know Laura
005Lee she is just a rock for all of us one of the best employees I've ever worked side by side with she is our senior budget person and there's so much about putting everything right to the penny with her Jenny you know Jenny my assistant the shortest assistant of Alpine School District she we promoted her into the position that was vacated by Austin she was in our payroll and budget team before and huge step up for her financially and so forth she'll she'll raise the bar and jump into that and so I'm looking for a new assistant and I think as of this morning we had 15 applicants so anyway quite a few people interested so I guess they're not that hard on people you must be popular I don't know maybe but anyway Jenny
006I've left working with her she's done a great job so that's our team thank you okay Chase now you're up and uh Crystal's not here but recognize Crystal Michael is two on her budget team and she's done great work to help us so much on this uh on all the budgets okay we have the slides up here so you can look left or right or behind you whatever is better there that's uh the capital this is the capital piece the capital budget recommendations had a few meetings with the District budget committee and then it's gone to BLT and this is the recommendations from so FY 24 capital budget requests right now we're sitting about 28 little more than 28 million dollars available for requests and we received 34 requests totaling over 58 million dollars so
007through the committee meetings the scenario the solution we've come up with now is 23 of the 34 requests sticking at the 28 million so that the expenses match the revenue coming in and we'll go through each of those so the the committee was able to eliminate some and then we have some scenarios of just reducing some that are available to be reduced um so the ones that we request to fully fund um so the budget of 28 million like we said for fully funding the bus lease payment that's that's been there before it's just continuing on of 2.4 million the new lease Bond payment the 7.25 or the new 90 million dollar LBA physical facilities control budget of 2.75 million school computer rotation for teachers about 2.7 million so all those that was the request
008and fully funding those amounts there's three more that are at the fully funded but if there was room in the operation budget these are things that could be in operations or in capital the alio Tes annual maintenance about a half a million dollars Skyward software and then other network software so those items fully funding those requests yeah let me jump in on that one a lot of discussion was had on those items where is the right place they are really operational expenditures for convenience we've had them in capital um and um there there might be a a an argument that moving them back to operations keeps them with the operations which is where they should be for um you're the district moving forward instead of using a more for taking dollars that could be used
009for one-time expenditures or one-time improvements or one time these are ongoing costs and we cannot operate an education facility institution without software and networks the alio and Tes is our financial pieces and Skyward is our student management piece and so um that was the discussion and again In fairness to our Tech Team the directors that came and met with the budget team and debated and were a little frustrated this is one that we could pull into operations and likely should at some point what that then would do is free up about three and a half 3.7 million that we could use for truly Capital expenditures whether that's asphalt or roofs or boilers or air conditioners or other things that that are of a facility nature so yes I was wondering um the Skyward software do
010we pay that much every year or is this like an upgrade that's an annual experience these three-year annual expenses and they do increase as we have more students or as costs to provide those Services increase they increase each year great question thank you okay so those last two bullets um with the items at the top those four that if we have those fully funded leaves about 13 million with the other ones that could possibly be moved leaves about nine and a half million for all the other items which we'll go to on the next slide so here are what we did here request to partially fund with the 28 million dollars that we have available using up that and having about nine and a half million left so the thought the solution here was just
011some of these items they have to be there and so we say okay we're going to reduce them by 54 it's about 46 percent of the requested funding to be able to have these items um so like the H facilities HVAC I think started at about 4 million and with the reduction down so at 1.8 million and so forth going down so we got HVAC Roofing you can read those there phone Systems computer repair um the 21st century software which is the third from the bottom is one of the other items that could possibly move to operations budget and the fully funded amount is about 816 000. I have another question and probably other people do too on the e-track and the roofing um are we putting off things that are going to create problems
012down the road yes I will never forget Jess saying is cheaper is better to repair a roof before it fails so and we got roofs that really need to be done that have been cut because I think that's a problem it is a problem it probably will be a problem but when you have 58 million in a question 28 million and I I have to say like this is the meeting I dislike the most all year no offense to Robin to Jason because you guys do a great job but literally you go in the room and it's just this like such your soul it is so frustrating knowing what the needs are versus what the dollars we have are and trying to kind of figure out what you do because this is not a wish
013list this is not like a Disney vacation this is that the all of these are needs none of these are nice to haves these are needs and that I think is also the hard balance just strike it's figuring out everything needs to be funded we don't have the dollars to fund everything so what can we partially fund and what are we kind of keeping our fingers crossed on for a couple of things and that also means we're deferring projects that need to happen now that are going to cost us more later but this also goes back to the result of when we have a failed Bond we have limited funds to accomplish what needs to be done it's going to cost us more yes there there's a cost to it in one way or another
014just this might be a question for Kimberly but the 54 reduction does that make some of these requests like not doable or are you just going to take the 46 and do what you can we're just going to do what we can some of our buses will only have three wheels that's what I mean are we and I think if we had an emergency situation where we didn't have the HVAC budget to address that and it had to be addressed it was failing there was no heat in the building we would take care of that and and then we would have to make an emergency adjustment I think that's why if I remember correctly we made the percent adjustment is because all of none of these were wants they were all of maintain our current
015needs meet our current needs and so rather than saying well flooring is more important than HVAC or this and that because let's do a percent reduction and then the event that there were additional Capital we could do a percent increase okay so let's do for instance if there is additional Capital would you spread it equally among all these or would you prioritize some of them you know we're going to get to that that's a great almost lead in not quite transition but we're gonna get there um one other thing again I'll just double down on what superintendent shared um if a roof fails or an air conditioner goes out um we're gonna do our very best we're going to fix the roof right um but the challenge with an air conditioner or a boiler is
016most companies don't keep those expensive uh products on the Shelf in their warehouse they order them and Supply chains are such that it takes a minute for things to get here and so that's one of the challenges when you move out of a rotation to something like this it impacts our ability if again in our team have full confidence and Kimberly Frank our team they will take care of kids we will make things happen in a Band-Aid way but the timeline to get things here is extended and so it may be a minute before it's fully fixed if that makes sense there will be some challenges with it and I'm trying to say that is yes barely as it moves you off of that rotation we are planning on doing this so we ordered it
017to we're saving this for emergency situations I think that's what I have a couple of principals ask me um we were scheduled for a carpet replacement and our response back was we may need to hold and wait for an additional year so yeah that's that's the adjustments that we make a little bit like you can squeeze into the air carpet but HVAC and Roofing to me are huge I really hate not taking care of those in a time of fashion favorite budget meeting yeah okay great questions we're almost to the point where we talk about other Solutions if resources so some of the requests can be funded from other sources so here's a summary of the ones that can be so a production printer for a print shop can be able from their from their
018revenue or from the Warehouse there's a grant possible for student safety vests there was a request for the facilities portable classrooms the 5 million but that's built in with the 90 million for the LBA can you explain what those safety vests are no but yeah okay thank you secure transport okay and I will say that was a request from last year and I think potentially the year before so sometimes two stuff is coming up that we've yeah we find out some of them last year it was like double that it was yesterday oh they never expended the funds yeah hey Krista Michaels is here this is the other member of our team so let's go to turn around Crystal's awesome hey sorry to bring that up yeah I just want to understand great point so
019those two safety vest is that something that's reoccurring every single year or do we just start replacing those that are warm do you want to get there we replace a certain number but it's not something that we have to do every year so for example um right now if we were to buy a new bus I'd need to buy additional for for transporting young age children that need a vest I would need to purchase a certain number of s to be able to outfit that bus so for 12 300 how many vests are we going to be getting good questions we'd have to go back and look at do you have the detailed requests yeah why don't we um we'll Circle back okay answer that okay foreign so if additional Revenue becomes available like we've
020discussed we can increase the percentage reduction for funding um we're looking at one right now there's some things in the legislation where the there may be some additional right-of-way um is it seven seven and a half yeah 75 million funded or recommended from executive Appropriations one time for Capital facilities it was it was 175 million um the latest and again things can well can and will continue to change until midnight on Friday but the latest I'm happy to share with the board if you have I printed it out brought it to this meeting just in case you asked questions but um line uh yeah line 301 uh one-time funding 75 million for school safety physical facility and capital so that's one that if it is approved that's one that could impact some of the unmet
021needs here or as Jason has said increase the percentage that's funded for those items the board will have to determine them roughly 10 we're about 10 of the state all right and Rob and I were discussing earlier some of those things if we receive additional that may be going to increasing all these or other things other items I did a quick calculation if we did get this additional um 7.5 that 46 funding would jump to 78 of so it's a big deal on this video the breathing room there are other tools the board has to consider additional funding but that's for the board to discussed today did you notice I didn't say a word but I looked for somewhere to move or if there were expenditures can move to the operations budget that would free
022up dollars here for additional capital I think that's right towards the end of our presentation on capitalism what other questions do you have yes please 50 vests there you go 50. okay are these installed it's installed in the bus um my guess is yes great question here okay thank you is that Health awesome anything else okay anything else that we missed okay thank you to Rob and his team for that information we will hope that we can take care of most of those needs we'll see what we can do okay number two on the list is District restructure and I think we have some people here interested in this conversation so I'll turn this over to Dr Farnsworth thank you um this has been a topic that the board has discussed in the past we've
023made a presentation Rob and his team made a presentation uh before it's been studied multiple times or they'll kind of go through the history of that this was scheduled to be on the work session agenda on February 14th two weeks ago when the board met on Tuesday given the nature of the other items that we discussed we did not have time to discuss this and so we have put it on our study session today appreciate Rob and the work that he's done in updating this and so he will take you through some information that should be familiar to you that you've seen before with updated data and then uh we will look for some further Direction and guidance from the board on possible next steps as we study District restructuring okay thank you superintendents um
024let me before I jump into this I asked Jason to jump out to the website and show who everyone here where this information is located um there's so much information out here on our website that a lot of our public and whether it's hard to navigate to find or and or it's just they're not aware I think we can do a better job at making them aware we met with a few Mayors the other day and we shared some of this information with them and they were very pleased to see that there has been a lot of discussion in that so if you go to Business Services in the Departments and then um in the historical reports there's all of these are hyperlinked there's information out here if you want to know about Redevelopment agencies
025if you want to look at our paffer which is one of the best documents that I think the team has put out because it's like 20 pages and it's like full of graphs and charts and it really takes complex information in this book it's like 200 pages and makes it simple and it's about 20 Pages you can see that but right here you can see um District restructuring study that's the folder so all of the information that the board the charts the graphs the data is the presentations that we studied in 2021 they're all here so and we will add this presentation into one of these folders for the public so they'll have access to this as well so um with that since 2020 Alpine School District has studied in public meetings this issue four
026times um there are several things that we have done over the years as we've considered how best to meet the needs of students and how to do it in a way that is sensitive to the academic needs of students the financial impact on taxpayers and families and businesses and the the responsiveness of the district to meet concerns or issues throughout we talked about different lenses to look at District restructuring I know board member hacken talks about those three lenses when she talks to people about changing the structure of Alpine District but we talked about those at length in 2021 during the four study sessions that we worked on this we also identified several items that if a school district were to split there are some things that need to happen and we need time to
027make sure those things do happen that we work with policy makers that we work with the board we created a West Transportation facility we have a facility in American Fork we have an older facility in Linden that we had for our transportation facility but in order to support bless you um in order to support a potential restructure or multiple districts within our boundaries that we need to have Services we need to have facilities in place to meet those needs one of the big issues with the Jordan Canyon split was one side had all of the stuff and the other side didn't and so the costs were very high and we've been working on those types of things for 20 years and so a lot of people just don't know that or don't think about oh
028you put a bus facility in Saratoga Springs well why did you put it there well these were some of the things again that we needed to think about in addition to that some of the policy we worked on um Senator Andre representative Malloy both from Lehigh Senate Bill 78 was passed in in last last year's General Session and what that bill did is it allowed a board to expand to nine members the thinking that is if a district were to split you expanded the number of members then if it's two districts or three districts you would have board members who are aware of processes or aware of employees agreements decisions facilities Etc that if those districts were created then you would have board members that could become board members on those different districts so that
029was the thinking it gave a board of education the option to expand to nine members in addition uh with the Orem we showed you the folder that's online we provided a ton of information to Orem City officials I know board member Wilson board member hacken and I met with City Council Members multiple times for hours board member Clement and I met with two council members for about an hour and a half one time but a lot of information was shared to answer questions about what if we choose to do something different and what's the impact in addition this session one of the three things we had identified as policy concerns was a larger district has economies of scale purchasing at WinCo or at Walmart or at Target has a different cost Dynamic and structure than
030purchasing at Mom and Pop store down downtown many of those stores don't exist anymore because of the buying power of some of these larger companies there are some economies to scale and lower price uh that's paid for those items and that you can find if you wanted to look at any one document I would recommend you look at the school spending report that the taxpayers association publishes annually I usually about March of the year I'm reaching out to the president of the taxpayers association saying do you have last year's data inputted it do you have your report done why I like using other people's data to tell my story or to prove my point and so that report should be available here within the next couple of weeks for fiscal 22. the last one that's
031available is fiscal 21. that's out there now um and again what it does is it shows a comparison of all 41 school districts and then it has a charter school average at the bottom so if you truly want to look at the fundamental comparisons whether it's the amount we spend on the classroom whether it's the average teacher's salary in that particular District if you want to look at tax rates if you want to look at the amount we spend on Transportation per student that is a very good source to look at for that type of comparison and one of the things that's obvious when you look at that is there are lower administrative costs in the larger organizations and so when we talk about this next item if there were two districts or three districts
032created from one one of the ideas was can we create a mechanism to allow the sharing of some of those central office features so that those cost advantages for the larger organization can be realized by smaller organizations and then you're you're you're you're taking advantage of some of those economies of scale and not passing those higher costs onto your taxpayers for duplicating the facilities duplicating the services similar to ins rural Utah there are service centers and they are clustered to provide support for those smaller school districts when I was a ba at Morgan we worked with the North Utah Education Service Center and they provided services for us the services they provided was a special ed director a tech director because we didn't have one there were two people in the district office the superintendent
033and me and we had three contract classified that was it and so we needed to rely on someone else as did other districts to purchase those services and share term for multiple businesses so that's the idea behind Senate Bill 143 the sponsor of that was Senator anderig in the Senate and then representative Jeff Moss in the house that has passed and been sent for Signature um for the governor and so that's another thing that we had been working on and had identified can we leverage some of our economies scale if there were to be multiple districts superintendent mentioned the next bullet so I'm going to jump over that we're talking about it tonight but the other thing that we have done here as we've updated the data by City um for this and for this
034presentation tonight there will be another update we get the tax update from um in August in August of every year and so then we will update the same data once we get the tax year 22 data instead of the tax year 21. so tax year 21 relates to fiscal year 22. and again I don't know if that's clicking with some but but there's always one year difference between the tax year and the fiscal year so tax year 21 day that we're going to share tonight is related to fiscal year 22 and then the new data that's released in August will be tax year 22 data and that will be related to fiscal 23. okay so with that let's jump into the updated data um here is basic demographic data by City And it was interesting
035when we first looked at this I believe mayor brunst from Orem asked us to look at this many years ago and we hadn't broken it out the data by that because we have open schools and students choose to go to schools whether it's a PG student that chooses to go to a Linden school or vice versa our schools are open and and a lot of parents make those choices to take their students to schools out of boundary um but we wanted to break it down in a meaningful way and compare it to the census in 2020. so here you have by City student information you have Census Data from 2020 and then you also have a comparison of what the student population is to the city population as of that census now again we're in
0362023 is that number different the answer is yes for every one of those cities um but and some out west uh where I'm at um the number there is much lower than I think is what actually is there um but you can see that in the interesting correlation between students to population and those cities that have many students per resident or per as compared to the total population in that City versus a more aging city that has fewer students as compared to their total population from the Census so just some good data to look at comparisons for any questions here on the student data could you just explain what that means exactly students population so it's taking the column total students and dividing it by the census and you'll derive a percentage so if you
037look at let's look at Alpine City 1968 divided by 10 000 that's about 19 so the percentage of the population that are students correct correct again one way to look at the data there are many ways and as the board you know you guys have heard me say this way too many times good data should invite good questions and then we go looking and prepare additional data that's what Derek Jason so well so anyway questions on this if not we'll move on snapshot in time okay let's go to the next slide this is what a lot of people get really interested in this is the fun one um this again is looking at tax data and it's it's interesting when we looked at this we have to make some assumptions um and this has been
038shared with the board so you don't need to take pictures of any slides oh I'm so sorry um you wanna I've got a hard copy too of somebody would prefer a hard copy I'm happy to share that with you as well but what we did is we took the city adjusted taxable value again tax value from 21 correlates to fiscal year 22. and we broke it out by a percent of total we broke it out by different rates tax rates we showed the rates up there one thing from my Basic Finance class and all the board members have been through a couple of times you'll know that the basic property tax rate is actually a component of the weighted pupil unit and some of our parents don't know that that first line on your property
039tax notes that's set by the state legislature and that's the local contribution regardless of where a student lives we're going to contribute x amount and then the state's going to fill in the bucket up to whatever they set for the weighted pupil unit for that year and then there are some districts that are in recapture so that means they generate more money than what they are authorized to turn in the basic program and then those districts then pay that money back to the State Park City rich district and a couple others I think South Summit now is in there I think there's four districts now that are right on the border of recapture so that's what that First Column and again I tried to highlight it with an arrow local portion of wpu so if
040we qualify for X millions of dollars that is subtracted from what we qualify for and the state sends us the rest in 112 payments every month okay the voted Levy what we've shown there is the voted authorized amount even though the actual tax rate might be different than that on any given year are voters in Alpine District have authorized additional taxes and they did it in four different ballot questions in the 90s and in the early 2000s um and most of those were coupled with a bond so that when we Bond we get the capital money to build the building and then the voted Levy were the additional dollars to operate the buildings without taking additional dollars that you had from other growth or other things um that you you Levy devoted tax to pay
041for the operations and some of you will remember those campaigns and discussions um tax laws have changed a little bit so most districts don't go for voted levies anymore there's not the incentive that there used to be because the legislature changed and allowed the guarantee portion the state guarantee portion to be either voted or board levies so a lot of your rural districts couldn't pass a voted Levy so they used a board Levy to qualify for some State matching funds the board Levy is the next one we use that Levy in two funds one is the general fund the other is our non-k12 fund fun fund 23 fund 23 is where you have your extracurricular addendas programs things like that you have your preschool program your Adult Ed program and this is the local piece
042that helps a portion of that board Levy helps pay for that fund 23. Debt Service is your general obligation bonds because we are not going to be issuing General obligation bonds that tax rate will continue to go down we ran some numbers on that this morning your budget your tax increments that we're looking at for the initial budget run was seven and a half increments less so in finance committee when we said oh the basics probably going to go don't go down about three that happened then the others I said somewhere between three and five seven and a half total so that's what the tax increments are going down um and uh the capital Levy those are dollars again which is part of our capital budget we just discussed the next column is the total
043by C and then again for comparison purposes these last two columns are simply to give context to the data before the first is the percentage of ASD funds so when you take that and say okay Alpine City the total is 9.8 and we generate 237 as a district what is that percentage of that total so to look at that by City another way to look at that is by student okay and so that's the last column when we look at guaranteed programs in the state or we compare our funding to other districts in the state or to Utah to other states we're usually looking at the assessed value per student or the funding per student and so that's what that last column is and again you can see very different values per students some of
044our cities have a greater commercial tax base commercial properties are valued at a hundred percent where homes are valued at 55 percent when it comes to taxation all of our primary homes have a 45 percent exemption if you will there is a bill in the legislature to make that more permanent I don't know where that bill is but some of our ledge committee have been following the bills but right now we have a 45 exemption on primary residence um those those communities or those cities that have um don't have commercial as or or developing commercial but have a lot of homes and a lot of students their assessed value is significantly lower per student than those that have large commercial and fewer students okay so is this assessed value or is it property tax collected
045assessed value so it takes all of the value and again we have the report we just got updated to reports from the county some RDA reports just the other day but this looks at the total value in that community and then the number of students and that's it derives the assessed value for students but the the assessed value is only 45 for residences so this accounts for the difference between residential and Commercial so does this account for the exemption the exemption only only is to tax collected so yes that would be considered if we're looking at Total Property Tax that we're using here the 45 exemption would be part of that I understand that the assessed value is a measure of effort of a community is that accurate I would say no it's not a
046measure of effort it's a measure of the value the appraised value of property within the community it does not have anything to do with efforts that's a good question Ada so that's the value of property on the end at the bottom of the FY 22 collection rate is that just the rates that people are that's the percentage of people paying their taxes that is the actual from the dollars that we assess and what's actually paid that is the collection rate and so there are some whether it's a residential property or a commercial property there are some that are unable to pay tax or they don't have a penalty to not pay tax on time and I'm trying to say that in in a really nice way um that that they'll delay and defer and pay
047tax in a future year there are some reasons to do that from an accounting perspective so when that happens when they defer do they have to go back and pay next year's plus what they didn't pay before correct and then we get that or if it remains unpaid Utah County then has their Board of Equalization and they deal with property tax sales or other collection mechanisms when there are outstanding property tax over a period of time great questions so if we just look at this apparently Linden has quite a bit assessed value and not as many students whereas somebody like Eagle Mountain has less assessed value and more students correct yeah that helps thank you great great comments and questions thank you so much anything Jason and this there yeah one thing um as we
048were going through this in the fall and other things the the part there was this percent of ASD funds that's percent of ASD property tax funds not all funds coming in some so like if we were to look at Eagle Mountain that's 7.5 of the total of the ASD funds that's just from there they generate more because the number of students and the number of wpus so their percentage of all funds generated from if you have property tax and number of students will be a higher percentage than 7.5 and some would be lower maybe that have less students um generating that wpu it really didn't would be an example of that right correct High taxable but lower on the lowercase that's great so let's bring this back to the um the question of District reconfiguration
049so if you had a bunch of cities that have small assessed value per student in the same possibly reconfigure District they would have a hard time actually supporting building schools for those students because they have a low assessed value per student that is that is true and I would look to Nebo School District as maybe an example of that you can see that on the taxpayers association report if you were to look at their assessed value per student it's much lower than alpines but they have growth and so their tax rate that they need to Levy to run their whether it's a bond build is much higher than is an Alpine District that's a great great question so one of the benefits of being larger let's move that out or a more diverse organization like
050Alpine yeah our tax base has changed significantly in the 21 years I've been here and and I will say in large part due to Alpine School District Boards of Education in the past and current and the reason I say that is the silicone and silicone slopes is one of the Project's Alpine School District partnered with my friend to make that happen this board furthered that partnership with Texas Instruments just recently and there will be an additional investment in the Lehigh Community which is Alpine School District Utah County and Utah of 11 billion dollars and that's the largest investment private investment in Utah in Utah's history by three times by three times yeah thank you superintendent so that has occurred here I sent out to the board an inflationary analysis spreadsheet you may have taken a
051look at that if you look at Alpine's property values in that those top and you compare the Alpine to Canyons to Davis you saw us go up 40 percent where others are going up five percent a lot of that is because of the investment decisions and Partnerships this board has made over the years the higher the taxable value the lower the rate you need to generate the funds absolutely yep great great so bringing it back to that this is just again part of the data set that the board when we put those those presentations together these are the things that we studied and this is the updated data from the data we studied in 2021 so next slide I think we have some schools yeah this is another piece of data the board asked us
052to look at by city is what are some of the number of facilities what types of facilities where are they at and how does that compare with some of the assessed value the number of students Etc so this is just another data point to take a look at your facilities 95 different facilities there's probably um not sure if we've got a couple of our leased facilities on there but 95 facilities and you can see where they're located and you can compare that with the enrollment data and take a look and say where are the facilities versus the students just another thing to look at when we looked at District restructuring or this data by City questions on this or in the city could compare the percentage of school facilities with the percentage of students and
053see if they have more or fewer schools per capita than others absolutely and that would be significant in terms of a district reconfiguration because yes the physical school buildings would go with city correct in a new District yeah the opportunities and the costs associated they're they're by Statute they're they're applied by geography and whatever that boundary of that school district the remaining District the new school district that's where the facilities would be assigned by Geography okay great point and Eagle Mountain you see 9.47 facilities but if we were to go back and look at the student numbers I want to say 15 15.22 so 15.22 of the students but nine percent of the facilities so one of the things you would take from that is your school size the number of students per facility is
054significantly higher in that City versus another city that you could look at where the number of facilities might be a high percent but the actual percentage of students is much lower all right and I I used Eagle Mountain because I lived in Eagle Mountain now um all right now one of the things I this was really interesting is we shared this with the Mayors um this was the final slide from the September 2021 board studies and I just think it's interesting again to remind the board what we as a business team recommended and what we said are cautions so what we recommended is accept the study results and then update the study reassess it and consider either a vote that was non-binding or a survey in November of 2025. that was our recommendation the board
055said Rob thank you and your team great work we love what you did but no we're going to look at this annually if I remember correctly that was kind of how it went um and we said great we'd love nothing more than to study this annually um so that's why I don't remember that for today they were so happy we'd love to do that let's let's look forward to doing that next year um so here we are again as we talked it was scheduled to be studied on the 14th um I think there was so much love on Valentine's Day that we just didn't get to it we had to bring it today but the cautions here is a couple of things and and I'm gonna on the last page I'm gonna share some additional
056things I want the board to think about number one uh we were working on a new strategic plan uh the efforts of superintendent um the leadership team in bringing that about the board members that were on that and gave just tremendous feedback we were right in the middle of that work um and that was a caution if you're going to um take to a vote or split a district and you're right in the middle of something that will affect the academic outcomes for students and bring schools um into uh coherence with Clarity and complementary and collaborative I'll use a work that Dr Ruiz uses often it's braiding their efforts and funds for student outcomes they're right in the middle of that and that was a caution something that we were concerned about the capital plan
057um and that was the Deferred Capital plan which is now the further deferred Capital plan because our public said thank you but no um and we have significant needs and that deferring those Capital needs is a significant impact and what's happened with inflation costs have gone up so those deferrals have resulted in additional costs Kimberly we'll we'll share some of those with you and you saw some of that also in our Capital process expansion to nine-member board that we got done the the service center that is now done this year so but I just wanted to remind the board some of the things that we shared as as recommendations and cautions now in the next slide um a couple of things there is a new bill um Senator Grover is the sponsor um it has
058has been held in Senate rules it would allow some changes to existing District reconfiguration portions of Statute it changes the feasibility requirements and directs the state auditor to within an after request by a municipality or County if the county is representing the unincorporated parts of the county or through an interlocal agreement directsum to have that study done within 120 days and it and it looks at only three things it looks at the financial viability of a new District uh can you create a new district and have a feasible well we've answered that question multiple times the answer is yes but what does feasible mean and what are the impacts so this bill would look at two things the financial impact on each district in the affected area and then to the taxpayer impact within the
059proposed boundary and that's it that is the extent if that bill were to pass the extent of the study that would be done versus other studies which are a much more comprehensive looking at a variety of things the process could be triggered annually there is no limit within this bill as to how frequent you could see those types of requests current statute limits a citizen's petition initiative to once every four years but a board or a city there is no limit I could not find anything and I'll look to my buddy and counsel as we talk to women we didn't find anything that limited it and there was nothing in this bill that addressed that um one of the things I know was a concern and one of the pieces of legislation we had planned
060on working on for next session alleged committees talked about actually feel much better because I found this online 331 of SB 292 and it's in current statute that startup funds are based on student population one of the concerns there was in current statute that says 50 percent of the undistributed reserve up to nine million dollars and that was a concern that that's a disproportionate impact to taxpayers and students throughout the district but on this line it actually airs a portion that says whatever the startup funds are it's based on student population so if a district were created that had 10 000 students and there was 80 000 students it would be 1 8 of those funds and so that made me feel a little bit better and I'm not sure that the other piece of
061legislation we were pondering needs to be run which is always nice the other thing that was in this bill is that past this bill would become law May 3rd any of the bills because the session ends on March 3rd they take effect 60 days following the session and so this year it's May 3rd um and then one thing I put in there um just it's part of that in this bill but it's part of current code if approved by um the municipality approved by the voters so just assuming that all of those gates are approved a new school district begins operation July 1st of the second calendar year following the local school board general elections so the next School Board general election is in 2024. there are three board members are up for election we
062had four board members that were up for election in 2022 so every two years there is a board election so I put that in just the question I get often is well when when could this happen What could so I just put that in so you're aware and then the other thing just to consider what is the process for communicating and engaging the public so that they know that some of these things one are being studied and two where can they go to find resources to look at and to evaluate that was a comment that came up in the meeting that we had with the three Mayors and two council members the other day and so I put that here as something for the board to consider now the last slide this is the board
063work we're going to be done my goal is to be done before five I'm about to minutes actually two minutes and five seconds ahead of where I wanted to be um we're not going to do board governments well fantastic okay so here are some things I think the Board needs to wrestle with and direct us with number one data invites good questions what additional items or data would you like us to study review compile on this issue so I'm gonna let you think about that here for just a minute and then second what steps would the board like staff to take do we want to study this every year do you want to study this in 2025 do you want what would you how do we best support you as our elected officials in in
064doing your diligence and serving the community like all of you do um what is the next step what what comes next um and then finally um what what time frame for the discussion um and some of those questions I don't know that we need to answer tonight but those are just things that on our mind as a team as we were working on this together things that came up and then as always we always finish with any other questions that we didn't think of that I know that you have thought of so Jason anything else that we missed that we talked about covering that no okay for my team anything else that we need to cover Robert has always got a good question okay okay thank you Rob so I appreciate your work on that
065Jason team support on that President hacking our response was to here's the updated information where would the board what are some questions that the board has what uh these questions up here what additional information or steps would you want us to take to provide the information that board needs to continue to dialogue District configuration why don't we take a minute and just go through those questions that are up there so board what additional items would you like to study what other information do we do we need on this so for me personally like looking over Senator Grover's bill there's pieces of legislation we need to study and study intently I think one of the challenges is because a split has not occurred since Jordan Canyons that that legislation has been sitting there a long time
066and not really been reevaluated and so I feel like part of it for me is going to significantly involve a deep dive into legislation and working with legislators like we have over the past two years to resolve some of those issues going forward because um one of my concerns is because it hasn't been tried again and again and again they haven't figured out like how to do it really really well and and so for us kind of looking forward to try to predict I guess like part of it I think that we've all talked about is that we don't want to leave any Community any student any employee disadvantaged and so are there pieces in code that may have those unintentional consequences so part of it for me I think ledge committee but then I
067would also say we would need to work closely with legislators to work out pieces of legislation because I think that's going to be a key piece of this moving forward so understanding current code based upon that understanding what additional statutory requirements or yeah I think we need to we need to put into place to protect uh or to allow for a configuration if it were to happen in an equitable way yes okay and I think along with that just because Grover's bill is held up in rules committee several Senators I've had communication with have said that they plan on looking at it and in the interim so just because a bill is currently on hold doesn't mean it's indefinitely unfold so I think it's important regardless of thoughts or philosophies that we weigh in on
068that legislation development that we don't just be reactionary to whatever legislators do that we be part of that discussion to ensure that no City student or employee is is disadvantaged that I think that that's important to be involved in that process so basically there needs to be a high level of collaboration with us and legislators specifically about this issue understanding what's currently in code and what needs to be added or taken away yeah and I think Rob mentioned that uh the the piece of legislation that Senator Grover's put forward outlined three things we are concerned with a lot more than three things we're talking about programs and employment um you know negotiations so we want we would want a much broader picture of how it impacts uh it's not just about money yeah all the
069programs and for those of us because I mean not everyone I'm still back about four steps of the Y on this and I would love to see a list of pros and cons of what that looks like with the district splitting what are the pros and what are the cons and it's funny because people who talk about splitting the district a lot of the times people that I've talked to it tends to be an emotional response not a lot of logic or reason but just it comes with a lot of emotion the two things that I have heard that have been slightly reasonable is they want you know uh maybe Fair more fair representation or you know Common communities and I agree with that on principle but implementation takes time and getting two districts set
070up and ready for Success takes time and we've all watched you know what happened with the last district and I I just want the legislature because I feel like they're being fueled by emotion from community members I don't I want to be able to say in a nice kind way let's work together but stay in your own lane for a moment we know education when I say we I mean you the staff board members will come and go y'all feeling rushed with a decision like this and I mean Ada brings up a good point it's it's programs it's about the kids and so I'm kind of backed up still on the why if Alpine School District is not fulfilling its role in providing Equitable access to education through students throughout the district then we have
071a problem but I'm not saying that and that's why I would like to see the pros and the cons of what we're doing and what we're not doing if we did split if we didn't split I'm just not sold on the Y yet yeah because I think if let's assume that the feasibility study is as Senator Grover is suggesting there you're saying there are more pros and cons more aspects of a district reconfiguration that need to be considered beyond the tax and the fiscal ramifications and I mean I'm looking at this timetable that's quick more quick than I would like to move on it and um I think the students in this area deserve that type of time to make sure that we're making the right decisions for their future and so I think it
072deserves more time so I'm in a different spot I um I it is that way where we live when we have larger class sizes we don't have the buildings we need um for me I think the Bond failing was a a big piece of kind of Shifting I don't know I think I'm probably the most pro-split person at the table but um I think when we when a bond fails right our needs didn't stop and so we had these additional needs that are just going to continue to add so I would like to see updated numbers on the two and three-way that we did last time um I mean I share the same concerns right we want to make sure that everybody is taken care of but I also cannot continue to ask my teachers
073who have 38 kids in the class can you just please be patient because it's going to work because while our averages are awesome and they're lower you know than they've been if you are that teacher that student that parent it does not feel like that okay so I want to ask you but if a district were to split that doesn't necessarily answer that question just because a District's smaller doesn't mean your classroom sizes are going to be small no but one of the things we heard repeatedly from patrons when the last Bond was I no longer want to pay for somebody on the other side of the district so if our districts are smaller then in theory if if you have just the West voting on the west then people would be more inclined to
074pass a bond because they know that those funds are going to where their areas and so I know there's a whole host of reasons why why the bond did not pass this time but I think my concern is I don't know that the the pulse of humanity right now is leaning towards this we all contribute to the greater good it's I want to contribute in my city where my children go and I and and so I think the voters are pretty clear about that so um personally I don't think I've ever been more excited about what's going on in Alpine like there's this Rockstar team assembled and we have this beautiful coherence map in these priorities and and it's a really lovely thing um but I think I think our patrons have been really clear
075and so I would be in favor of putting it on the ballot sooner rather than later and maybe maybe it comes at the end of the day after everyone votes that they don't want to split but maybe they do right and so I think it is fair to take that um to our voters and let them weigh in on that I mean we were talking the other day you know the students that a new District reform like if it was on the 2024 ballot is 2028. five years is a really long time if you live in the west and you don't have everything that you need and so I think we need to just be really a cognizant of um or if you're the principle of a 1200 kids school it's different than being a
076principal of a 600 kids school so it's kind of where I sit okay so with some modeling of the two-way and tree way this place is good and I think that modeling is super important because the bill that Grover passed and again now I'm being reactionary and I'm prefer to to not be reactionary but to laid out would cause some significant impacts that 40 000 ceiling I don't even have words it creates a massive despair analysis disparity and and abilities and looking at different sides so I think having those numbers sooner than then later can drive some legislation and again legislation to be proactive and lead in a discussion instead of sitting back and reacting to it whether a split is voted on now or 20 years from now having good legislation in place that
077we were part of in the creation I think is important and so those numbers play and using that modeling to articulate to legislators what those numbers look like so I would also I know I talked about this with a couple of people before putting together a task force just to look at this um for me another piece that's I think going to be essential is the time frame I would say no no later than October and I mean October being like a hard hard deadline do we need to have that information back because as we're working with legislators over the summer and during interim for us to be able to change legislation and if there are actions that are recommended by that task force we need time to put some of those pieces into play
078and so I feel like um you know having the task force look at all of that and as we've talked about things like programs School boundaries whether it's increasing decreasing or stable enrollment there's a there's a it's not just about what the picture is today it's what's the picture going to be in 10 years and 15 years and 20 years whether that's mag data or census data and can we look at trends that are happening um I think that's a big piece of it the other thing that I would really like to say is David's done a phenomenal job with the boundary study if there's a way for us to put up a piece on the website to have a QR code so patrons can say okay I'm not on the task force but what
079about this what about this all right can you answer this question because we may have questions the seven of us but there may be other questions that other patrons have that we haven't thought of so using that power of our community to get feedback from the community about um these are the questions you should be asking have you considered this so that we can also forward that to the task force not every question will be able to answer some are going to be a yes we can figure this out or know that's for future boards but I think just being able to say what are the questions that the community is concerned about um I think that's a huge piece of it so for me having a tight time frame figuring out the task force
080going forward and then just having a way and a path for Community to engage in this process I think is going to be valuable to making sure we can answer as many questions as possible and this may be part of what you're thinking of in a task force but I think it's important that you know as a board we don't want to disadvantage any future District by inequitably dividing and so I think a facilities inventory is important and we've talked about this you know as a board whether that's done independently or whether it's done in-house but independently will cost money um are we willing to put money into this process well I can't speak for everyone else but we're gonna have to put money forward regardless whether that is a PR campaign about something we
081put money into bonds that have failed so part of it is what's the best return on our investment is it better for us to get the third party independent Dynamic so the argument can't be well of course the district's never going to say you should split so is there a way that we and I think we can work out kind of pieces of those details ongoing but I think just if we can come to an agreement about rough timeline are we willing to ask for more information and then I think we can like nitty-gritty the details out as to what that looks like and and my goal in having a facilities inventory and assessment would be to have a recommendation for what it would take to have viable services in each and I think another
082piece of that is going to be land right because like for example we've held the Geneva property knowing that the plan is that in the future we would rebuild on a Geneva site I don't want to change that Dynamic just because we're having you know what I mean so like land needs to be a part of the discussion too it's not just about facilities it's also is there space for new facilities whether that's district offices or additional transfers yeah so yeah I totally agree that we'll be part of it other considerations oh yes there are having just been through this in great excruciating detail um I am more with Sarah I am not convinced there is an urgent need to split I'm just not we have looked in great depth at all of the numbers
083and um I'm concerned about that notion which is not just alkaline it is a Statewide it's National um like what's in it for me and not what is best for the community what is the common good and this nation was founded on the idea of the common good and we're losing that and so when every Community says what's in it for me then we lose the ability to cooperate to help communities Across the Nation across the state across our district so there are some misconceptions that I think we need to get information out on one of them has already been mentioned a smaller District means automatically smaller classes and that is not the case one of the piece of information we looked at in Orem was how much does it cost to educate every student
084at every school so we had the broken down by school and by city and what does it actually cost and where is that Revenue going to come from and if you split then where is that Revenue going to come from and that gets back to the question of equity is how are we going to balance that and those numbers need to get out there another one is if there's a split then the the debt load of the existing district will be divided proportionately new districts don't start at zero they start with a debt load and that information also needs to be factored in is what what debt load would the new districts have and how is that going to be factoring how's that going to be funded as well also duplication of services nationally the
085trend is combining districts it's not splitting because it's clear that when you have to duplicate Services it's more expensive so what is the load that's going to be transferred to the taxpayer how much more are they going to have to pay to have two districts than one what is the implication for legislation for the state of Utah when they have this much money and it's divided now among 45 districts instead of 41 or so on because gorbers Bill isn't going to pick just Alpine it could potentially affect Davis and a lot you know how many districts are more than 40 000 I don't remember do you know it was like Julie yeah Julie how many years what was the question again sorry how many districts are bigger than 40 000. I can't remember I need
086the tax credit oh there were on uh there were only 16 between 5 000 and 40 000. and then it's like Davis Jordan us uh I'm trying to remember they were like yeah about Salt Lake okay yeah there's there's yeah there's not very many it's an idea and that's one of the questions too I mean just piggybacking on what you said Sarah is because looking at the national trends of other districts consolidating in big because I think people see that you actually get more bang for your buck with bigger you know more programs things like that the question is do we know of any school districts our size anywhere in the country that have split and what like recently within the last 10 years no see and that's what I I would love to be
087able to see and it's and maybe that's more information I think one of the things we have to be careful of is we all have a bias all seven of us have an opinion whether that is I don't ever see a reason to split you could potentially or we're leaning towards split so I think one of the things you have to be cautious about is we're not talking about are we splitting what we're talking about is we need more information to make a call and I and I think that the other thing is as we're talking about whether it's independent or something else we also have to like like once again it's we're we're trying to not bring our own personal bias into it and I think um I really like to be right I
088think everyone knows I'm not yeah that's what I'm not wearing my own shirt but I'm also trying to hold space for what information communicated to me would convince me to change my mind and I think that that's what I would ask about seven of us going in is if information is presented to us that says this is actually contrary to my what I believe to be right are we willing to take that information into consideration and change your opinion are we willing to be proven wrong about it and that's why I think getting more information potentially looking at a third party entity takes a lot of our emotion our opinion out of it and makes it more of a logical decision and not one based on emotion yes I think with some other districts that
089are comparable size there are like six seven eight if I could be shown that Alpine School District is the only way that we can provide depth of service to our kids and I'm talking we we are really making inroads into the depths of service that we're I mean annalize and her team uh with our Title One kids we are finally making some inroads and I just am celebrating that and I don't want to see that disappear just because somebody's political ideology says we need to do this and the second thing is that the ability that we have to pay to compensate our employees and to give them really good benefits those two things are very very strong in my because I don't want to mention names or anything the Jordans admin salary scale is pretty
090amazing yeah but their benefits are not right but and then also you know when you look at things like somewhere fifty dollars behind any day so maybe I would love to study a little more what kind of the smaller but still larger that was yeah but still good size kind of what they're able to do and I know we've talked about that before being apples to oranges but um I think there's probably value in looking at some of our similar along the Wasatch Front what they should and I hope it didn't come across that I was adamant against us no I'm just saying I'm kind of in the space of this is a big deal and it just it just needs to be so thoughtful and intentionally thought out that I would hate for us
091to make such a quick decision that it it really has a negative impact on students well and I think that's all I'm saying but I think that ADA brought up a really valid point one of the things that keeps me up at night we're the second largest employer in Utah County if we screw this up it doesn't just impact yeah it impacts families it impacts economies it impacts the cities where those they think it's something like roughly 10 percent of people who reside in our district are employed by the district so this is something where if we don't get this right it will have like a tsunami of negative consequences so I understand the hesitation which is why I think we got it we have to have all the information we've got to have all
092the information to say what should we do what are the pros what are the cons what are the potential consequences and I don't want to leave legislators in this by their politics and being in a hurry I will I want them at the table to have the discussion but I I just I fear that if if we're just making these decisions I that time frame just scares me a little bit I have you talked to him about the time frame no better than that and and I think parts of the time frame for me like as we know that legislation that is not fabulous is out there that's already been drafted is getting ahead of that getting those legislative pieces in place regardless where the task force goes we've got to look at that and
093work on those relationships and and that partnership and getting good legislation so if any District in Utah decides to split or is forced upon a split that we have good processes in place can we provide our legislators with more information it seems to me that they don't always have the big picture or the same picture that we do we've given them additional information we've talked about sending monthly updates so yes we are we are pursuing that just a table this is here's the district 40 000. here's how much it goes to the classroom here's how much it goes to Transportation here's how much Administration versus a bigger distance let them see they got it yeah that's discouraging I should say my concern is yeah I want it to be driven by us right we nobody
094is going to care about our people the way that we care about our people and so um I think I think I just think that if if we are if we are driving something and we make sure everything is Equitable that is going to be much better for all of our people whether it's kids in our schools employees in our schools families of employees so so that for me is probably the most important thing is I don't want us to be in a space where the decision is made for us and then we have to however I do not think that's a reason for us to do it because we want to do it before they do it to us I don't like that argument because it uh it feels like we're doing something that
095is not of value just because we're a reaction because we don't want to be react by fear so I'm with Sarahs I do not see a reason for a district separation I feel like if I could see that either there was Financial mismanagement in the district or that student outcomes were suffering and the they were not being addressed by the district I think that would be I would definitely you know be looking at this more seriously but until we see some evidence that a smaller District would result in better educational outcomes for the kids I have a real hard time with that I think just in general we've asked a bunch of for a bunch of data I would say a lot of those are just phishing Expeditions they're not they're just things that we
096think would be interesting I would say we ought to scale back what I always tell my students when they're writing a paper I say before you even start the research draw a graph and of what you think the results will be and then you'll know what experiments to do so if if you Julie you know whatever data you're asking for if you could say well if it was up here I would want the district split if it was down here I don't want a district split I think it's worth getting that data right but if it's just I'm kind of looking out of curiosity at what this is like I think that we probably shouldn't make staff do that it's going to be this is all going to be expensive all these ideas that we
097had to look for data some of the misinformations on a smaller District doesn't mean you have smaller class sizes it doesn't allow you to have smaller schools probably particularly if we had a new District out west they would have less money to build new schools than if we're all together it doesn't necessarily result in better educational outcomes I think particularly the things we've spoken about with the superintendent's plan our strategic plan you're not going to get that if you split it in three districts you're not going to get as good a superintendent as we have in in all three of those districts I do not believe I think that um the voters have spoken they feel that their property tax appraisals were too high that came out the same time was the ballots I think
098they definitely felt that way I think they were distracted by a District's flick discussion there's no doubt I've heard that from many people however I don't think they've said they don't they want a district split I think what they've said is in fact if you look at the vote in Orem where there was a lot of propaganda they voted against it there I I would expect that it it's likely that if you did a district-wide vote you'd have a similar result that you had in Orem um I think the teachers would not support it because they don't want the uncertainty of a different uh Financial Arrangement and I think that parents are generally very satisfied with the educational product they get in in Alpine so so I'm with viserys on this but so good is
099the next step so I was just going to summarize um I was going to make sure Mark had a chance thank you as well but no I'm glad you're able to share that um the comment I was going to make before I summarize is that some of the data that you're asking for is objective data some of it is subjective data we learned in as orm was working through their separation that not all data is seen the Same by all people uh and and so I think just as we look for data to say well you wouldn't have this program or you would have this program it it's hard to predict what a new District would do or not do so some of that data is uh interesting to look at but very subjective in
100terms of what if um there is some variety among board members on feelings about this that is a summary statement and so I think we have captured individual desires of what we should or should not do going forward so I think we will continue this discussion with board members and perhaps Tuesday Morning means now there's and determine what is the will of the board for the staff to move forward and as we ascertain that we've heard the will of several board members but we need to capture the collective will of the board and then we'll move forward on that to provide the information and Direction needed anything else you would add but we do have like how much it costs per student for school that sort of thing so we have that information we just
101need to maybe get that on to everybody all right well let's let's have dinner we'll see you back at six o'clock um with another exciting discussion so I'm kind of feeling a little bit foreign we are going to call this meeting our first item on the agenda is going to be the Pledge of Allegiance by Brad Smith and that will be followed by our inspirational Reflection by [Music] senior senior children for our families our communities thank you Carla we appreciate that it was very beautiful so as the Board of Education it's important for us to recognize various accomplishments made by students employees and patrons throughout Alpine School District we honor the individuals and groups this evening we acknowledge the families and others that have helped them achieve their goals thank you for the support you've
102offered to those we recognize this time we appreciate your attendance here tonight it would not be inappropriate to leave after the recognitions occur if you choose unless you really want to stay and have some fun with us that's really cool too so we are excited for the opportunity to honor various individuals from Mountain Trails Elementary tonight the Alpine Foundation is grateful to Mountain Point Medical Center as a sponsor supporting the you make a difference Awards we'd like to invite Carmen Zapata and Ken Loosely from Mountain Point um to take some time at our microphone marketing about thanks Kelly appreciate it okay so we are now going to move on to our recognitions for Mountain Trails Elementary Carl are you doing these are online Sarah's doing okay great I'm the one that's doing these because found
103Trails is her school but I represent the board on the other I represent the school board on the Alpine Foundation board and this is award that is hidden by the Alpine foundation and it's a wonderful tribute to three categories of people today teachers support professionals and volunteers so when I call your name we'd like you to come stand right up here stay here and then when you're all here David will take a picture of family members can come take a picture and we'd like to shake here for one step and as you come up then uh Carmen and Kent will give you an award so the first one teachers is Chelsea Hickenlooper come on up Chelsea Chelsea Hickory is a great teacher and student Advocate Chelsea has given extra time over the years to cooperate
104to co-produce our after-school play any of you have been involved with drama know there's a massive undertaking Constance props rehearsals kids so Chelsea thank you next Alicia Boynton please come out [Applause] teacher and she is always looking for ways to support her students and find the best practice to help them learn she understands that all students have different learning styles she also gives them her time after school to co-produce the after school play so here they are a few lines in the play maybe so Alicia thank you this category is super professional so I have two people first is come up is the kind of Aid that every special education teacher hopes to be able to work with over the years she has learned how to run small groups and work one-on-one with our students
105who need extra help we and our students are lucky to have her here thank you consent thanks Jason Lewis come on up Jason has been here for the last six years and is one of those extraordinary people to whom their job is more than just a job he takes pride in the way the school looks and spends extra time and effort making sure that we are in a safe clean environment that is conducive to learning we are lucky to be able to seal him away from people's last school thank you Jason okay two volunteers Carla Smith please come up Carter Smith has been a great PTA president she's extremely involved in the school and is always looking for ways to get the community involved she has helped to organize fun activities such as stem diet
106and family movie night now any of you have been involved in the PTA know this knows that there is 20 things that he do and it's amazing when you look at all the support they give us students thank you Carla Heather lamb please come up Heather is super proactive and instead of just about it he found a solution and jumped in to make it better Heather takes time at her day every single day to make sure that all of our Mountain Trail students are thank you now it's picture time so David will arrange everyone he is the Pro um Vicki will you come up and I saw Cindy in the audience too trying to hide we need you guys at the front and center so all of our awardees please come this way and let
107us it next we'll have the mountain trail student recognitions read by the principal Court studs Natalie it's too positive Emmy our next one again thanks Tammy Pro tip keep the microphone foreign anything stupid of this next is our fifth grade student here you go Romero Rodriguez you might not have been able to make it either for my school ing especially and I always like to say about the efforts of the amazing Comfort but it doesn't matter what we're working on she's always chocolate also worry so the job looks good opportunity um as you can see we have that Mountain Trails a wonderful staff it was very difficult to try and figure out who talk a little bit about started and I right now last time I checked during 13 34. so that's happened in the
108last six killing among you probably hear while and wait in fact almost and they're waiting a while in that line and so they're very patient s and so we have that going for us we have kind of people have been kids quite you can ask for a better look at that picture over there right after a fact that that it was right after it's like the biggest Kool-Aid kids love it you know you know all these children do we have a chance to stop hard to see us with but that's okay we're still okay and thanks for this opportunity thank you Kyle we appreciate it I have to say um because Mountain Trails is one of my schools um there are many things that I love about Mountain Trails but just the feeling of community
109engagement I was there a couple weeks ago when they were doing a stem night and just like you couldn't find a parking spot it was so crowded the amount of parents and community members showing up to support the school was amazing um and Carl and his staff have created such a great environment um they have kind of a Toy Story underlying theme and um all plays a mean Buzz Lightyear and Cindy dressed up as Little Bo Peep and um yes I had the photos to prove that it's just a phenomenal experience I think one of the great things too about Mountain Trails one of the reasons it's one of I don't like favorites but um one of the one of my favorite things about Mountain Trails is at least once a year I'm able to
110catch a student riding a horse tour from school and it is one of the things that just brings me absolute joy in this community that there are still kids who sometimes will ride a horse to our principal so thank you Carl for being here for representing the Mountain Trails Community we're so grateful for the work that is done there so thank you okay so we now um and this is the time um right before we start Community comments if you're ready to go we wish you a lovely night and um did you a deal and say it was lovely having you here it's not rude to get up and leave the meeting it's totally appropriate if you've had enough um so that's totally fine yes um we now have um up to 30 minutes set
111aside for public comment this opportunity is allocated for patrons living within the Alpine School District boundary sign up sheet was available prior to this meeting allowing up to 10 patrons the opportunity to speak those living outside of ASD and those who were unable to sign up before all slots were full and submit written comments at alpineschools.org school board there is also a QR code in the lobby and that QR code will take you directly to that form called up we would ask you to please introduce your s to yourself by stating your name you'll be given three minutes to speak now the board does not engage in a discussion during the public comment period they may arrange for a staff member to communicate with you later Personnel issues are not appropriate discussion items for an
112open meeting environment if you have a Personnel concern please contact a member of administration or put your concerns in writing and address it to the Board of Education so I'm going to read the first three names and if the first individual would come up and the other two would kind of be maybe come to this front row and be on deck ready to go that'd be great the first individual we have is Karissa little the next individual number two on the list is Michelle broth and then the third person we have is Morgan Anderson so um Carissa we would love to hear your comments Chris a little I'm from the region 9pta and on behalf of the PTA I just want to thank all of you that we spent here last several weeks up at
113the Capitol Hill advocate okay just want to thank you for our students thanks Chris I appreciate that Michelle you're up next then Morgan Anderson and then after that Vanessa Hogan um I um here couldn't have a member of our group that visits so there were three without being the burden of um had some um my gosh okay so we had some resources that I shared with you in my comment different curriculum that you could invest in the money for it um knowing is less likely to YouTube so if we at kg can help thank you Michelle so our next commenter is Morgan Anderson followed by Vanessa and then Colleen HSN attribute that accept differences Target inspirational thank you Morgan our next individual is Vanessa followed by Colleen and then Jocelyn okay to the Future [Music]
114planned the back side I don't know how we got here we'd like to know what are all of the tech sellers I don't think specifically dollars how is the money I've been heavily involved programs and I'm so involved I want to believe my tax dollars are being spent in ways that are helping my students and the students with my immediately and I'd like to understand Alpine Elementary is a super old school I get that it costs a lot of money to redo that we had asbestos properties or follow up on what what kind of art again or it's not earthquake say so in closing because I know my time is up if our tax dollars are keeping other schools a float s on the chugging up this year but thank you Vanessa next we have
115Colleen and then Jocelyn and then Andrea Clough anything but I feel like I feel like I know that is that I know there's a big problem S I wouldn't thank you and we appreciate that Colleen next is Jocelyn Andrea and then Tracy Neville my name is um and I first of all just want to thank you thank you that job I don't want it either and I'm just really grateful for the amount of time and love I'm kind of I'm here with Michelle I collaborated with I'm a black history month this month um I've been trying to be more involved in my school and it got me thinking about when I started learning about luck because five years ago and for me as a white person I'm looking look back on my education and I
116felt very um felt like things they know and it was really hard for me um married to a black man but hard enough dealing with learning about childhood and given be a better person so um read about my kids experiences I think whenever we talk about black history just about slavery and that made me so sad so I've been more involved in the past few years and I like she said I know better even in my going into their classrooms and teaching it with them the teachers are saying to me I know how to do this well well going on and I just wanted to like thank you that you guys are making to keep going because because my children better or you love the diversity that is thank you Jocelyn next we have Andrea
117and then Tracy um a lot of the same questions like on the East Coast I think there's some particular things like good to have I know that you're probably distant because this is but I don't know one thing um understand anybody who knows me maybe like me I don't think you need to ever so I don't think you need to be struggling with friends because it should be something you should be able to teach your children whether it's your teachers thank you okay Tracy I think that all it's good to be here um first of all like others I just want to say thank you I have a lot of respect for public officials a job here I live in Alpine I have three kids one at Timberline two adults [Music] 100 version program there
118is I also believe that Alpine to right now is able to go to Charter Schools together so I'm just here to tell you you know we want to be part of [Music] the farther away thank you okay so we need to now move on to our routine business superintendent license so we have a motion by Mark and a second by Sir approved each discussion seeing none we will move for a vote all in favor say aye thank you next um superintendent moving on to our discussion action items board member King we have five discussion discuss great breaker off executive director of legal services for Alpine School District to come forward we have three policies the we'd like to discuss the possibility of retiring those policies and then if the board if those comfortable with that
119go ahead and hire those support once further discussion the change on that we can bring the subsequent meeting but we will go through policy 1600 possible action on that at the discussion policy 5153 and policy assistant attendance as I was sitting in the audience today it occurred to me that I'll be Applause we're going to start with policy 1600 that this so Craig would you prefer that we handle each of these individually okay okay so um any questions for Craig no but I move that we I will entertain your motion thank you I move that we we public and other educational organizations a second okay so with a first motion by Sarah beastman a second by Joy Lin uh do we have any discussion I just wanted to say that this is one of these
120policies that we have um it's it's older it was written in 1986. and it was reviewed 20 years ago and it's just one of these policies that you know we deal with some of these things maybe in practice but it really just doesn't need to be in policy any other discussion as I read this policy I ask myself the question is can we encourage because I don't like them I think the collaboration is part of our culture it is standard professional practice Greg I'm going to give you the equivalent of a standing ovation by not commenting um okay so with a first by Sarah beast and a second by joylin um all in favor say aye aye any opposed 51-53 okay so I'll entertain emotion how's that cool go ahead Mark okay so we have
121a motion by Sarah hacking in a second by Mark um any discussion talk here and heard of anyone wanting to have you have now even with ages anyway I think 84. 00 here this is an option there's a better place the concern is legit we need to dig into that just a little bit more limits that we do in situations okay so we have a motion by Sarah hacken in a second by Mark all in favor say aye any post okay so Peta opposes that passes six to one thank you the policy 672. K cell entertain emotion I moved up so we have a motion by Sarah Beason and a second by well one thing I will say about this policy kind of kind of direct what Craig is saying is this is not saying
122yeah we don't need to have a normal pornography policy written in the 80s talks a little bit about if you go through the policy about magazines and there will be frequent Locker checks so so out of date not only that we have policy for example .9.22 which was revised in 2020 so it's more that talks about the occurrence of dissemination of offensive material and we have our new sensitive materials policy 6161. we have our policy 5250 that deals with our electronic communication and entertainment devices and in 2.7 in that policy it says at no time can pornography be disseminated or at devices so what we're saying is have this other of our policies and with that and so so it's why I'm recommending that pornographic literature policy there's also a couple issues of just the
123language in this policy very difficult and if there's I I didn't preach it it's responsible for it thank you I don't really know how to respond to that okay so I'm just going to reiterate that we have Emotion by board member Beeson and a second by board member Bateman all in favor say hi hi any opposed podcast thank you the next item is our fiscal year 2024 template Rob Smith business administrator and his team who reviewed that in the study session for discussion and recommend ous budget s addictions the board members should I borrow I'll turn from our executive director of legal counseling me recognition just maybe for the public while the board is thinking of all of the questions study section this is one of those really difficult committees assignments there's always way more
124requests quest for funding than there are resources available this year I'm just looking into the public there was over 58 million dollars of requests for funding it was 28 million dollars available so it's always a difficult Challenge and we review those priorities and recommendations with the board and study session and that presentation of the things that are included in the recommended budget bus these payments us pay for them for a couple of years we have built facilities these remedy bonds physical facilities Etc orientation of school computers things like our network software intercoms one of the other things we did also recommend its additional funding is made available two recommendations to increase the percentage funded View and every reason that it's for Action tonight because we have a very short window towards School our high schools
125our youth very much year-roundings we have to work on some of those programs as many projects yeah it is with Supply chains the way they are there is less time on major air conditioner boiler and so I approving that early process that lets us get those purchase orders for next year's motion because I'm just going to get here I can try to get some of those questions additional questions is correct your clients okay so um any specific questions for Rob um okay so we have a motion from board member Bateman and a second from board member hack in any discussion I think we've said before and I hope everybody will take a chance to go listen to the beginning of study session that that's our favorite and figure it's really hard to look even if
126the back on it's grateful that our people don't really hope this is creating and our staff helps us outside it does make a difference okay so we have a motion by board member Bateman and a second by board member hacking for fy24 tentative Capital athlete budget all in favor say aye any opposed that class ifications okay our last uh program study report follow-up s information following the to look at our random Creed opportunities of living Kimberly entertainment Apartments that information was presented to the board on the 14th of February session then there's a teaching information there was no action taken at that time to take the opportunity to review that information with you briefly publicity to your patient to pay with respect to potential which is buddy operation my recommendation is that tell me a
127director of operations and interpretations to review that information with you open it up inventions information public comments that were made to leave no and recognize and as a discrete do you heard pair with with rocks particular I care of a lot of those needs through the financing of a general obligation Bond so that was not that our needs go away so I want to share a brief history of how we look at our needs what do we study I'm going to only go as far back as 2019 and the detail public The public's response was let's hold on a 20 of the voters supported that particular Bond but in 2020 they were saying are you really maximizing the use of your facilities because as we taxpayers careful their money we want as a district we
128are using our smizing their kind of the operational costs of a facility and are we duplicating those costs in some areas because we're not maximizing the capacity from there after the hold we generated you can specifically with the capital team that vassal generated from the greatest needs how could we take care of some of them well it was through a general obligation Bond voters voters we knew that they could either vote to support or we would need to come up with a plan if we did not win it we did we did 2016 what would be our plan if not and so you could see over on the right hand column if it didn't quite K-12 boundary study we look at the numbers closely because Rob and his team serve on the capital team as
129well and we see the trends we also study greatly so we also thought maybe we look at as we're watching the trend not only in order in declining enrollments but a trend that you're seeing from the top of the district down said we could do double sessions so you saw some of those options the one that made the most sense that resonated the most with our public was a district-wide boundary [Music] Hill as you remember we went out for it largest Bond number we've ever gone out for 595 million to take care of a lot of those Capital needs that we but it was the largest debate we saw lots of things in the news whether it was on social media whether this this was voters know what time what did our board at that
130time I know we have another new member but the cardboard that type said okay or need some [Music] needs to have sent out a letter to the public this went to wolves and oh because he replied this one and then that middle section said that go into a study schools are on notice oh parents all students on notice that we need to take a look at enrollment it was boundaries and recommend close the notice that came out deck did that to follow State Statute as well we want to make sure we're giving study parents Parenting by a specific boundary change or closure will receive additional is a parent you might not have seen all of the meetings or you might have said oh there's an email from the district I'm going to delete it sometimes
131we get it for those of you do the need process that we currently in a superintendent mention Ed we went to work on a study quite a bit of time because we have a lot to study see our objectives were outside of a bond in some cases because obviously we were unsuccessful in November wanted to mobile access sides having neighborhood kids in our schools we also have programs that people like to come in so programs like DLI or gifted we also have special education in all of our schools but we don't have small group autism in every one of our schools so we place those programs in do better how can we do more get more programs or excuse me more special services like a smaller so this as you can see was a comprehensive
132study I wanted to look at as we mentioned let's bring in another grade level we did that in the more compared to a formal study okay so here we are thanks for letting us go through that here's the team 23 of us you'll see different titles such as but you'll see directors of preschool directors of CTE and see all of our elementary supervisors secondary supervisors our director of facilities of Opera director of special ed and the list goes on our external director who works as a business team they presented earlier in study session they're part of this they rate software tools that help us understand and know what so very comprehensive study each of these meetings that we have we had over six and they were two to three hours long public understands okay what
133types of things do you need I just wanted to show you just a quick image this is Alpine School District as you know and boy it looks so much better off special education services small group specifically looked at all the kindergarten you guys are hearing a lot I think there was an article before this all day kindergarten where it was sitting with our state legislature passes it's like doubling the number of classrooms kindergartens that have not wanted programs around the district that we have kids that are attending one high school the driving to another high school because they want to be there we go and you can see that the study was intense I don't do lines everywhere but I just help you with the comprehensive visual here we go so this is what we
134did we went City by city school by school we looked at August upcoming were sitting leave her from the great Mountain first of our study study and he noted that their 1300 I mean just knocking on them who have the board not made a quick decision decision outside of a bond language was sitting at blockbridge was significant but you've got others that are over a thousand look at the fruit pollen the First Column is what it'll be at 2023 each of these schools you can see that because of the new Elementary we believe a nice School in Overland open in August in five years 2027 is projected help us buffer by building that new school but you can see that from the study of Eagle Mountain it doesn't mean air is better a little bit
135better but what we would say we still need a new elementary school and we need future boundary adjustments just if you live in Eagle Mountain know that we see you and we know that there's going to be more changes in therapy five years they're going to be about 12 cells without some help Pony Express is currently over a thousand that projected to grow to 1107 by 20. there we think that we have property for a future Elementary that we can merge Cedar Valley Elementary into that new middle just don't think it's this year because Overland was not close enough kids for of that City I'm like looking out to that because okay Saratoga Springs plus I can tell if people can hear or not Saratoga Springs took a look at the left-hand column you see
136a lot of numbers that we would consider board members all the time that say uh what are what are the categories of watch list School say a school that is over 950 should be on our schools that are dipping below 500 should be on a watch list junior high level schools that are pushing underneath 950 should be on a watch the pools at the high school level that are 28 2900 looks at that's just one variable but it's something that we look at to say watch list now people get afraid of the word watch four or five years ago we had school four years ago I would say we had schools on a watch list we haven't done we're just watching the trends we're also looking at what type of financial planning do we have
137to take care of some of these needs um so you'll note here Harvest Riverview both High 900s but I also want to note quarter of their other interesting components that we we looked at we talked about we studied we said boy if we um put a DIY growing area knowing that there would be significant interest it's all about timing and I'm not saying it was right or wrong but those are questions that we're having as we as we so moving on you can see that Thunder Ridge continues to be big and it's also in a construction zone area that traffic is really a problem I think that we receive over um and we see that they're going to continue to grow you see 1269 now we have an elementary Eagle Mountain but it's like one
138of those it's like in between Saratoga Springs it is not fully at its capacity 744. if we got to an emergency stage and we couldn't wait for five years we could look at some rebounding but oga Springs let's just take not that we could do a quick adjustment here we're not recommending one for this coming year we're getting this on a watch list we're saying we do need to build an elementary school also look at boundary adjustments in this area there would be nothing that we would have as a recommendation currently on this but it's something that we're watching so those parents that are here from Alpine weren't together some of the same things but kind of in a reverse matter and very closely I'm going to move on to the Lehigh area we divided
139this study into two because six of the elementary schools we've got 12 of them of the six feet solely to Sky Ridge at six feet to Lehigh we're not perfect in the junior high feeder but David in his boundary team did a good job and Jason Jason 50 of the Lehigh Junior kids feed to beverage and 50 of them feed can lead to Lehigh that one's nice who have a nice nicer we have North Point left of the column they definite watch Zone and they have like you Carl they're receiving a lot of different in and out in particular School River Rock we've got over a thousand High Elementary they were on a watch list four years ago they continue to be on a Coast you can see the study decline but there's and they're
140one of those schools that are listed as seismic concerned we've got unreinforced masonry at Lehigh Elementary we do have it located in a flood zone area but we also say to ourselves we don't just build a new school because it's the oldest Elementary existing in Alpine and as we only have that many students feeding feeding and it's not a nice occasion so this might be one that one that would say we will look at a possible closure of Lehigh Elementary merch with another okay so you see the schools listed there Meadow is 5.99 so Dry Creek has stayed pretty steady but now they're going to be jumping up in the next the dry Creek's been on our watch list for a while so I want to show you what we are here's something to customize
141the use of facilities create a savings adults don't also dollars probably didn't see Lehigh Junior High's Auditorium that they are desperately asking for the placement of their refined savings can have projects like that or you save a bundle of them and it can help us build new schools so here we go here would be the recommendation Who currently in August will be around the 990s we have them receiving students from Lehigh Elementary I'm going to start with the middle Elementary should have done that in the beginning closed Lehigh Elementary we would send a majority of of them to metal but we would shave off the top half on my computer I'm just going to contact Jason show you what we would look at at the at the Lehigh area to say what part of Lehigh
142Elementary will we push up No Boundaries okay the black boundary and these that's the visual of it and again David and his team are called the mount they do the official schools with parent community members we're just giving an direction that the board closure at Lehigh element five the sixth well four of the six schools okay any Stacy any questions for me I might have skipped no questions I think really the biggest concern right now from everybody is you know doing things quickly and it affects five schools not just one all it does is get I mean it doesn't resolve all a lot of things in it but it does does he have a need for another Elementary School that could become a top priority this position is for prioritizing projects on the bond we
143would say our ultimate summary on this area is we need new elementary school and Boundary adjustments in the southwest portion of Lehigh seismic and decreased enrollments the closure of Lehigh Elementary and Boundary changes are recommended and will only be a short-term but we don't think that it's for a long time but we need a new school here definitely okay we're moving on all right Lehigh North Area these schools here they all feed discouraged and Dave turned out a significant issue that we were having up at the top of the hill your neighborhood school that it was a nice adjustment that David did you recommended it I think a board but you can see what the new um projections are for an 880. that's where those numbers are sitting like a nice number the other thing
144I noted that our team were like oh my goodness look at those numbers we like how Lehigh Earth five years thanks to big schools are nice however it doesn't mean that schools won't ever be on the watch list because Sega Lily is one of those 19 we recognize that it's not our highest priority but it's one that we've got on the watch list for some other areas of unreinforcement screen okay oh one thing I think our right hand column shows what are the current programs like why do we do some small group classes classification have an overabundance at one schools we needed to share the the access means we're going to add make a you'll see all the all kindergarten let's on there big rocks the questions you at a neighbor asked you you can
145answer it now all right need summary following the current boundary reconfiguration between Belmont trending in a steady enrollment for the next five years okay now we're moving to those of you who are here and you're concerned about what was shared here in the Alpine area pay close attention to the info recognized as we studied this area so there are no schools that are below however we are starting to supplement ftes as a full-time teacher equivalencies to keep programs sustainable so it could be that we don't have a healthy like neighborhood enrollment number because Alpine Elementary 216 of those students are up but we've run some special programs there we have so you can we drink tuition preschool so we are keeping them afloat but could we provide access at a close facility nearby and then
146be able to address a school that has some aging concerns Alpine to us is a 1960 facility as well retrofit them sometimes we can retrofit here work with the roofs because structure back in those dates that did rebar the codes have changed over time so it's not that they built it Corey back then they just didn't have those expectations I read an interesting article I wanted to share with you guys that said that says dated 60 years ago 95 percent of Utah schools and talk bad unreinforced Masonry the cool thing is the progress is around 12 Statewide I would say Alpine School District has done similar things we have retrofitted some of our facilities and Empire School than just those of you that are in the construction world you know that but I want to
147share with you if you did or applied Westmore Cherry Hill Cascade we rebuilt Centennial solidated siren Hill closed Geneva Elementary but we did not rebuild it because merge those students with suncrest and created Parkside Elementary we have Grove Christ Greenwood and Lehigh High we've done partial retrofitting of AFI and PGI we had both of those on the bond to be finally but we still have one two three four five six seven eight more schools to do Windsor has issues legal final phases AF High School final faces that's that's the that's the line that list if I were to get them you would see those schools listed there okay kind of a boardwalk but I thought that the public foreign [Music] s we've got there what is our recommendation no recommendations for boundary adjustments and Alpine
148Highland and silver Cedar Hills at this time we are watching trending concerns specific to health of program sustainability specific version so on this previous slide do you see an abundance of all programs we have a city that has zero those are the access issues that we're trying to address and make a part of our conversations every time we study we can't always fix everything and so I just wanted to make that noted we aren't saying that we're closing Alpine but Alpine is one of our seismic concerned schools some issues that use that we do have a decline -based kids but we've got a really a really great program that people love to access we have we have to driving out of that City to attend Alpine so was there another school close by Alpine for
149build enrollment also that we could say we're not going to lose the program we're just going to move it there's more facility that has room those are things we're studying nothing nothing final this is watch list does everybody in here that's a um deerfield's another one on our watch list they've got a declining enrollment and and I just I just included some stats you can take a look at this once we get this before David also and his team worked out another issue that was happening at grain one Elementary I don't know business growth and this brand utility that we 've been ready to push 1000 that we thought okay they're not as Extreme as what we saw out west or clear it north of Belmont but we do have two schools close by that
150we can fix up those enrollments and you can where they are sitting there so a boundary adjustment was done announced to civil oh it's in study is a is it all right so our needs were will continue to monitor the growth in the South Southwest area of American Fork and however doesn't mean we're changing the program we just want to change it we can access these programs that are really popular okay Pleasant Grove and Linden seconds to look at the left-hand column does anybody need to stand up and okay all right so here we are take a look at those schools I noted in red those that have fallen below and some to operate operational costs of Central Elementary is the same costs as it cost for us to operate dollars that some of the
151square footages of these facilities are in the 70 000. so we're running a facility with these operational costs that we really are saying okay if we didn't pass a bond we have the needs that have not gone when we used of our mechanisms it might not be enough to build a new school but we could that's the cost that we spend we spent four to five million dollars so you'll see those numbers we've highlighted them you can see the right hand column all of the special programs that we have all of the special class services okay here's one idea we we mentioned closing Valley View four years ago we're back to that same scenario 300 and rejected to continue to prepare a principle of Valley View is here I just that just came to my
152mind so I don't [Music] know close to everybody so we get that our recommendation is a closure of Valley View probably not been on everyone's ready again is a 1960 something facility also we continually have the principal calling us a this is part we don't have adequate bathrooms we concern after concern it has a reinforced a series sections to this building well guess what's just up the road a 72 000 square foot facility that's 20 to 30 years all of that Linden group of students put them into Rocky Mountain because I have to share with you know how many of those 556 kids in Rocky rocking 165. the other students are accessing either access to special needs program or popular Portuguese so is there another way that we can maximize the use of facilities to
153say we get to take care of the problematic health one area that great group of kids put them into a 30-year newer facility and then let us rethink where we're placing this DLI program and if the DLI program is not enough to be in its own facility could we use and do for the first time ever a Magna DLI School that would capture Portuguese and because we have three schools that have declining enrollment but we could put and we could really better maximize the use of our full-time FTE equivalencies instead of something and making the English only classes higher class folks while the immersion classes have lower class size that becomes is there a way for us to rethink some things to say let's keep Aspen Elementary that sits it's a customer a customer of
154Orem and Linden could we say that's our new magnet site bring Portuguese in bring Orchards immersion kids in Windsor's emerging kids in create a Portuguese and Spanish Immersion magnet school first time ever in Alpine School District right and and think through could we find a principle that could really Embrace this type of a school so this was kind of fun for us to Think Through to say how if our taxpayers see what maximizing the use of their dollars and also the facility so we in in this would say spread them out to populations that really need it it's close to Northridge we've had a various issued for a very long time share Aspen a little bit of it with Rocky Mountain because you're going to see that eagle you don't show that let's show that
155area we're going to my voice okay Valley Muse okay so as you see um even though we built two new schools we built Central we remember we rebuilt growth the numbers in our opinion is the right time to strike that consolidation merger you asked us four years ago please split us into three do you think I recommend ing weighted role it's fairly new facilities okay so there's we are with Pleasant Grove Atlanta watch list you but we're taking care of central we're building them up so that those operational costs are where we 71 go across to 710 closure of Valley View closure of London Rocky Mountain sitting at 8 31 31 then Aspen becoming a magnet DOI School some ideas here we go here we go I've summer closing reboundering of that one will need
156to be completed prior to prior to seven so that will continue to watch the same question before it goes Live tonight so good good catch thanks okay so here's what is everybody okay to move on for us to keep moving right Aura north and east take a look at the schools Foothill 527 Orchard 657 how big was Centennial 7.95 when we opened it we merger to remember Sarah Park and Hillcrest that one though is to mature Northridge 399 this is one that you five at Bonneville 509. and you can see in the next five years were those numbers are trending from was one of our more mature populations and it was growing rapidly we did a lot of programs there we did DLI programs a little but as the population has declined a little bit
157in the bud because we have been able this FTP come out of area to my school so it becomes a competition between schools and principals and neighborhoods and that's really we want schools to to be honestly rob peter to PayPal and that's what we're experiencing at this time you'll see where those numbers situated we've got several Title One schools and so our team said to ourselves if we're going to close a school in all they kindergarten what should we do make sure that they have access to that same resource that they afford to do it on the right hand side this is why this Elementary Study took three or four meetings because it was just so so deep and all of the things we but you'll see the team did a great job this is
158where we landed was right here closure of both that is just like gut wrenching I know several of UIC employees of Windsor here I see principles of Sharon and Windsor these are schools that teach the heart of so many these are schools that are on our FEMA report on reinforced masonry that we have done some replicating of and Improvement but because of our enrollment we don't see us rebuilding a school for 300 students and we have neighboring schools that are a little bit older that really are in need of students so here's an idea and I'm saying this as sensitively as I can because it's PG Linden Orem these are heard conversations but this is our first effort to say here's a recommendation as we look at the trend and we look at the programs
159and we look at the access like or that aspect Ive for the first year of it opening that we would have a bus pick up those students but we'd like to start if the decision is to go this route we would like to say could we bring a bus every day to Orchard to pick them up this program now we would like to move Sharon into a couple of schools I'll show you those in those reasonings why there are oh wait we didn't show that here in a second but we're going to place uh Sharon kids [Music] I want you to take a look at a healthier be able to create careers operation if we could go in this direction knowing that club no employees are like oh no no what happens with me so
160we have a lot to address but here's an idea for Orem do you want to come and show the map a little bit the thing that our team came up with is let's um now that this is the reason why I hate saying stuff like this is because people say that's exactly what they said they would keep both properties could look out of one of them and utilize those dollars to say significant Improvement to Bonneville we have four one just down the way to 1972 facility to proceeds and then Telecare inspired here which shows this is Windsor is this next one each summary that you guys can see here it's about and then look at the other side the southwest side of world currently for upcoming in August I want don't say oh they missed
1611091 look at West Ward was rebuilt but it so the square footage is not what our typical sport footage is like between 65 000 up to 85 000 square feet that is assisting okay so we have no recommendations for this cardboard only for this okay um and that is the close of our boundary study so our committee then said well let's share some further information with the board we would recommend that a phase 120 to initiate boundary changes 23 kind of like the letter stated and you can use Belmont closures for the 24-25 it doesn't mean that we couldn't do it now we now we will do whatever the board recommends we can do whatever the board recommends if the board recommends so this was just our committee additional thought because we typically have been
162conservative but it doesn't mean that we can't do something different I want you to know I really trust our Board of Education and recommendation that you guys looked at two weeks ago in your study and we said and then we could do it do a secondary study that only contemplated changes larger funds we've got to read at PG High School so I'm not going to go over that study they're going to ask me back to share with the public the secondary study later I'm going to further um school facility closures of five elementary schools Lehigh Valley View Linden Windsor and Sherry with the closure of those facilities that will then impact this change here murders so what do we do with the kids at Lehigh Elementary well our recommendation asks Valley View to send to
163Rocky Mountain in central Windsor to North Region Orchard Sharon's Cascade and Foothill Aspen to North Korea and merger of 3D alive programs into one magnet site has been Rocky Mountain with that then say to our parents or schools or employees look at those five domino effect the mergers hey Domino here's the total boundary changes so if we're going to meet State Statute by law here are all of the changes that would be occurring boundary wise a new North Point boundary about 150 kids to kids to River Rock boundary 225 to snow Springs new metal boundary a new Central boundary a new growthcrest Foundry a new Rocky Mountain boundary and Cascade boundary a new Orchard Foothill Northridge Bonneville and Centennial that's about 12 new five closure quarterback I took a lot of time thanks for the
164time I think The public's first time to hear the results the next steps you guys would be discussing determining is it just a discussion or do you want it thank you Kimberly that is a great presentation [Music] we should appreciate Craig for being here as well so great work by your team great comprehensive look appreciate the Deep dive of those that were Board of Education deep information about facilities maximize resources again studied shared the 14th this board meeting so that the public could be accountable liabilities the recommendations of the committee Now open up for any discussions board members feel ready to move on some action to be recommend that to you staff of what action you would like to have to look forward to make that happen okay I'll go I'm going to meet Julie
165one of the things I want to just point out quickly I know there's a lot of concern with plus size and what as conversations are happening it's important to know that just because for the ratios that we have based on the number of kids um Kimberly huge shout out to the team I have to say that when we initially got this information a couple weeks ago I don't know about everybody else is a little bit Shell Shocked like the amount of information was a lot no I mean it was good like we always ask for more information we tell you you're delivered um but just when we're looking at current projections future projections programs when we talked about doing a district-wide boundary State this was I think sometimes people think that um it's very narrow
166right it's oh you're trying to save dollars it's we're looking at the age of the facilities we're looking at the usage of the facilities we're looking at the boundaries we're looking at the boundaries next to the school the next to the school and some of these ideas um are extremely creative obviously some of these will have a larger impact than others apparently like the one with Lehigh Elementary will have a significant domino effect but the two things that really stand out to me first off every school that we're talking about potentially closing we're trying to put those students in newer schools safer schools and it and if I'm reading this correctly every school that we're talking about closing is on the reading list it's a seismic seismic so part of this is also I know
167sometimes there's a sense of like oh you're just doing this for dollars there's a significant student safety piece um I know that's one of the things that we wanted to address very clearly in the mind which is why our number one and number two schools on the review list PG were our priorities so I have to say that student safety is a significant people um the other thing to me is um when we have schools that are looking at single digit ftes really limits the program opportunities for students because when we are giving specialty dollars and making sure the specialty programs are available to our students that's based on student enrollment and when our is that low that means that either we're subsidizing those dollars or students are not having those programs available so to
168me a huge music this may not be people's favorite way of dealing with seismic issues but it's just a reality that we're facing then the other piece to me is making sure that regardless of the ZIP code a child lives in we want to make sure that every child in Alpine has programs and that is absolutely what's happening [Music] with drama teachers who provide valuable um integration opportunities for our students and so to me that is a big piece of this is making sure that every student has access to instantly for the work when we combined shortcuts they were both getting very small and taking facilities and what I'm hearing it is like we didn't know oh my goodness believe what we can do success they are so thrilled I have been multiple weeks who
169just said I believe that if they're high school kids however we need to impose us to address our hearts are full with love for these kids and personally in favor of studying this further would not make a decision to period of time until after we come to a lot of these boundaries are definitely I am really it will get to start that process reiterate the points that have already been made of principles stops here today I I just shake my head when I hear the numbers that you're dealing with and you and you're not the only principal available of dialogue a lot of these issues it's a lot of Iron Man I'm sorry I was just gonna say we have a motion from board member Lincoln and a second from board member Wilson Saratoga Springs
170but Specialties and I just want to wanna do we have any other discussion about the things um they support this maybe I think one thing that we have an interesting is what would happen exactly to the employees of the teachers it turns out that if we look at it the requirements that we're carrying this year for those teachers will follow the students and believe that couple of years that all of those employees positions our attention of two immediate specialists in one of Linden Elementary any other discussion um we are aware that with people like this was a good thing through going to breathe that's my concern s okay so I was just going to note that that week this is a heavy heavy lift I think it's a headlines for our families okay so I
171have a motion from board member Lincoln and a second by board member Wilson all in favor say aye name Okay so mix up with a board member Beeson voting nay we we have that motion passes requirements for the notifications okay so it is now time for member and superintendent reports as well as information items um your attention to appreciation to a former board member a current mayor of Pleasant Grove City Google thank you for your service School District your attended to appreciate it with the city I can start I serve on the teaching and learning committee and that there's a couple of items I wanted to report uh first of all we have a team working specifically to open up another option for families of students the graduation it's called demonstrated competency is a good
172opportunity we also had a millet of Leasing our new school in Eagle Mountain and follow gear information will be supported by our district team we have a network data from legislative community in the legislative session three days the probation so many as well so also can just help for finance we've talked a little bit about the capital outlay budget we also have an mno coming up and we just um uh and depending on what happens on Friday by midnight we'll also know where we are we'll start making um get a Communications committee meant to be and they have as usual another exciting new idea which we are very excited about this new possibility it will be possibly roughly based on the New York series like stories that will again I was just going to say
173with Communications as well we talked a little bit before all of us mentioned that we all have had people reach out to us to tell us Communications I I really want to give a shout out to our team because I really feel like an Alpine brief we have and we also get feedback that where we need to improve and it's helpful for us as a team to be able to focus and hone in on those little areas that we need to be better about with communicating I move that we go and closed session okay so we have a motion by board member Beeson in a second by board member hack and if you guys are okay with this when we do the roll call I think I'll just call names just to make it easier
174for Rhonda board member Wilson board member Lincoln board member Clement remember hacking board member Beeson board member I pick you in order to Nicole session