001So at least like try to do it. >> Yeah. What is your favorite subject and why? >> My favorite subject is history because we get to learn about ancestors that were on Earth before. >> Oh, that sounds really interesting. Is there a teacher or a staff member who has helped you a lot this month? >> Um have helped me a lot with my training and I feel she's just so nice. >> That's sex. Yeah, she is really nice. What advice would you give to other students who want to be shut up? >> Honestly, just be good and be yourself. That's basically all you really need. >> Awesome. That's really good advice. Well, thank you for sharing all your answers with us and congratulations on being named McGuffy Middle School November Student of Mon. All right.
002Thank you guys. Good advice from me. Just be yourself. >> Thank you, Mr. Wise. >> All right. Next up, we have our high school student council representative. That is Mattie Mackin. Maddie, ninth grade, correct? >> Yeah. >> All right, Maddie. >> Hi everyone. My name is Maline Mackin and I am a freshman here at McGuffy and I'm representing the student council. Some school updates. The middle school and high school student council hosted a Veterans Day lunchon last Monday with great food, music, and speeches. Our life skills program hosted a Thanksgiving feast for faculty and staff last week to celebrate the approaching holidays. McGuffy High School has been named as one of America's best high schools by US News and World Report for 2025. The middle school and high school collaborated with Chrome Federal Credit Union
003and Washington Area Federal Credit Union for a financial reality fair last week. Students were taken through multiple scenarios that required them to budget and plan for their financial futures. The National Junior Honor Society and the National Honor Society each held introduction ceremonies last week. Sports updates. Winter sports kicked off their practice this past Friday. Congratulations to our high school cheerleaders for winning their division at UCA regional competition last week. Both boys soccer team and the girls volleyball team made the webio playoffs with the boys falling in the first round to Avanorth High School and the girls defeating Sarti Houston High School in the first round and losing to Hopewell in the Hope High School in the second round. Congratulations to Moshi Dell and Ben Payet participating in the state cross country meet. McGuffy boys soccer
004had three all section selections. Sam Stout, Jeremiah Butterfield, and Ben Payet was honorable mention. Sam Stout was named to the all the old team. Girl soccer had four all section selections. Mattie Crow, Kora Thomas, Ela Wolf, and Hannah McDonald. Miranda Weaver was honorable mention. Cross country had three allconerence selections. Mattie Lucas, Ben Payet, and Moshi Dale. Football had four conference honorable mentions. Grant Clayton, Wyatt Hilddrress, Aaron Supler, and Riley Salsbury. Volleyball had five athletes honored as all section. Sarah Brown Lee, Nicole Klogas, Miley Maine, Mara Janovich, and Gracie McVey. Thank you. >> Thank you, Manny. Well done. actually want to keep with the theme u we started with with honoring board members uh in with us tonight we have Miss Lena Hannah Lena you've got a pen over here senior manager member training and outreach
005manager from the Pennsylvania um board uh school board association Miss Hannah is here tonight to recognize one of our board members for the number of years they have on board so with that Miss Hannah >> thank you so Those are tough acts to follow both of those students, right? I mean, and then hearing all the great stuff that is happening within the district. So, thank you for allowing me to be here um to do that. Before I do, I would also like to echo, you know, uh whatever that next chapter is for both you uh and Mr. Kern and Mr. Vanetta. I look forward to hopefully maybe seeing that somewhere in public education that you're kind of continuing that work. But if it's not, I wish you both the best. Um, and thank you for
006your service to to your board and to the work for even with PSBA. So, having said that, um, as mentioned, my name is Lena Hannah and I need to put my glasses on now here a moment. Um, and it is my honor to join you tonight on behalf of the Pennsylvania School Boards Association. Serving on a schoolboard is a demanding responsibility. It requires countless hours of preparation, thoughtful decision-making, and a steadfast commitment to students, staff, and the community. I commend all of you for your dedication to the McGuffy Area School District. The PSBA honoral program acknowledges schoolboard directors for their sustained commitment through years of service beginning at 5 years and continuing at five-year intervals. The recognition rep, excuse me, the recognition reflects the dedication required to fulfill one of the most challenging roles in
007public education. Tonight, we honor Kenneth Leisure who has served on his board for 20 years. So on behalf of PSBA, I thank you, Mr. Leisure, for your service and commitment to the Magi Area School District as well as all the rest of you. Um, and to any administrator, family members, staff, um, students, right? It takes all of you to do the great work that happens here. So, thank you for all of that as well. Thank you, Miss Hannah. >> All right. Uh, next item. Um, as as many of you know, uh, this past spring we completed the comprehensive plan for the McGappy School District, otherwise known as F FRCP, the future ready comprehensive plan. Uh, within that plan, we've identified four priority challenges that we've created goals around to address over the next three years.
008So that's this year, 2025 through the 2028 school year. um through the rest of this year and during uh regular board meetings, we're going to be presenting on each of the four priority challenges to share with the community, share with the board uh not only again the the challenge itself uh but the ways in which we're going to address those challenges. So tonight uh the first priority challenge from the FRCP is attendance and with us to present is Miss Kelly Painter. Kelly is our attendance offer officer and transition coordinator and Dr. Dan Gotchin, our director of curriculum instruction. So, Kelly and Dan, take it away. >> All right. Good evening, everybody. Good to good to see you all. Um, yeah, we're going to talk a little bit tonight about one of my my favorite topics,
009sincerely one of my favorite topics, which is school attendance. And so, we'll go on to the first slide here. Um, so, as Dr. Oberg started to um speak to um we are now onto our second three-year future ready plan since I've kind of been in this role, which is um that's kind of weird to think about that we already finished a three-year plan and are on to now this is year one of the second three-year plan since since they've done comprehensive planning in this fashion. And so, um, everyone who's been following along, you'll notice that three of those four priority challenge areas, um, are carryovers from the first plan. We felt as if those still are some of the the most urgent issues, um, kind of pressing our district. Um, and that would be attendance,
010vision, and culture of high expectations and staff recruitment and staff retention. Um, in that fourth box, you'll notice in the previous plan, it was um partnership and connection with business and local community. Um, and I want to stress that's still very much a an area of importance for our district. Um, but the way that the plan itself works is you you have to identify no more than four priority challenges. And with um with the recent developments with artificial intelligence, we felt as if we needed to give that one of the four formal seats, so to speak, in the in the plan. But today, of course, we're talking just about um the priority challenge area of attendance. Awesome. Um couple definitions, right? My my daughter has a spelling test tomorrow, so we'll do some vocabulary just
011like I did with her earlier today. Um, so when we talk about regular attendance, um, there's a couple ways you can slice that. Really, there's there's lots of ways, but for for our purposes, um, chronic absenteeism is what is counted in terms of whether or not a student is in what's regular attendance. Um, chronic absenteeism is anyone who misses um, more than 18 school days in a 180day year. So 10% more than 10% of the school year absent, you're considered chronically absent. And that encompasses all absence types. So if it's a parent excuse, if it's a doctor's excuse, if it's a legal appointment, um if it's any absence reason, will count as excused, but it still counts towards those 18 absences um on the clock for for chronic absenteeism. Um, separate from that, and I
012guess I should clarify, certain times when a student's not in school do not count for the 18 days, like if it's a school school sponsored field trip or extracurricular event, those are considered school attendance. Even, you know, if they are in Pittsburgh at the science center or something like that, that is considered inschool attendance. Um, and same thing if they're on a a school sanctioned athletic trip or FF an FFA trip, something like that. Um but any other absence type um is considered you know an absence for chronic absenteeism. >> Yes. >> Include like if a student is out for a long period of time due to a medical >> Yes. So great question. So if they have an extended medical absence um it's going to depend on whether or not they are officially approved
013for homebound. So, if they're on homebound instruction formally, that is considered their educational setting and it would not count for these purposes. But if it's just a, you know, a flu or extended illness for say eight or 10 days, that would count towards their absences. Yeah. >> Yep. Of course. Um, and so the second definition we have there is truency, and that is dealing specifically with unexcused absences. Um and and then once a child reaches their third or more unexcused absence, they then enter formal truency proceedings. And there's a a number of steps that that happen there. A lot of them are in Mrs. Painter's wheelhouse. Um but I just wanted to make the distinction that um chronic absenteeism and truency are are different in certain ways. You could be truent and chronically absent, but
014you can also be one or the other um in terms of how absenteeism works. Um and then also um you know, as if attendance isn't already complicated enough. Um you also have into that equation, you have students who may arrive late to school. You have students who dismiss early from school. Um but for our purposes of just strictly attendance, we're we're talking about present or absent. Um and then within the stu the student handbooks for each program level are particular procedures for what you know uh tardy arrival early dismissal. So those are are certainly important topics but what we're talking about tonight would be specifically school day absences of of a full day. So we'll um yes Mich one more question reviewing vocabulary course maybe just for everybody who's listening or here >> um what
015are the definitions that the size of the truency of an excused absence versus an unexcused absence? >> Yes, good good question. So um there are several different excused absence types. Um you can have a parent excused absence which is a parent note of of really any reason, right? like you can write kind of what the reason was, but um a parent can excuse up to 10 days in any school year just because they're the parent and and they have that prerogative, right? So they might write their child was sick. They might write we were out of town on Friday. Um what they write is, you know, is kind of secondary to the number of dates they get. A parent can excuse 10 times in a school year. Um then the second most common excused absence
016type would be any kind of doctor's note. a dentist appointment, medical appointment, um sick visit, well visit, um those excuses would come to the school and they are a separate classification that's not part of the 10 parent excuses um and there is not a limit to medically um approved absences. So if somebody was to have a significant illness where they're hospitalized or they're not hospitalized but they're home and like a doctor says like you cannot be at school for 5 days. um as long as you've seen a you know a doctor and gotten that verification from a medical uh personnel then that is not part of your 10 parent notes. Um and there are other um few other ones right like if there's a legal appointment and you have a note from the court system
017that's going to be its own own excused category. Um students can also apply for an educational trip. We currently allow for those. Um and there's a few other exemptions for elementary students. there is um agricultural fair participation can be submitted with like verification from the local 4 um organization um students in grade 8 and above that doesn't apply as much because most of the the agricultural things they're doing are through our FFA so it's kind of covered but um so that's that's the majority of absence excuse reasons that you know there's there's you know any number of other uh limited things that that could apply but that's the most common. >> What's an unexcused absence by definition? >> Yeah. So, unexcused absence by definition would be um if they don't turn in any kind of
018note or verification of absence um or if the parent turns in a note, but they've exceeded their 10 notes for the year, then we'll still note that, you know, we'll still take that note. We still appreciate the communication, but you know, Pennsylvania attendance law states that if they turn in more than 10 of those, it becomes unexcused. So that would be the unexcused is is a little more straightforward. It's either no note of of any type or a parent note in excess of the 10 days. So yeah, >> of course. Yeah, >> yeah, go ahead, Miss Fry. >> With regards to the excuse, >> and I think honestly this is kind of for myself, too. >> I thought I had remembered reading at one point, but it could have changed. If a parent sends in
019a note, let's say students out for three days, parent sends in a note for those three days. Is that one excused or is that three excused? >> Great question. So it it'd be by absence date. So that would a note for three days would be three of the 10 parents. >> Okay. Yep. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Of course. All right. Manner on. Cool. So these next couple are just kind of stat slides to to hammer home um the the just concrete numbers that we're talking about. Um in a 180day school year, 90% attendance is 18 absences. So as soon as the kid misses that 19th day, they then move into the camp of chronically absent. Again, doesn't mean they're truent. It doesn't mean, you know, that they are doomed for the year. It just
020means from a a reporting purpose, that student has now moved to our list of students considered chronically absent for that year. Um, and um, another note to make, that's like a per student statistic. So a lot of schools they'll they'll report their average daily attendance which is you know in a typical day 94% of kids in our building are present. Um that is a different statistic than when we talk about chronic absenteeism we're talking about the number of children in each building who have missed more than 18 days. So, our average daily attendance is probably going to be higher than our regular attendance percentage because we're not, you know, usually the majority of kids are in the building each day, but over 180 days, any kid that misses more than 18 times, they they are
021now statistically considered chronically absent. And um just a little graphic, I've shared this before, but I think it's worth sharing again. Um, if a child averages 14 absences a year from kindergarten to graduation, um, if they're at 14 a year, which is still considered regular attendance, right? They're not chronically absent, they would have missed a full school year of cumulative school days by graduation. Um, if they aren't exactly 90%, if they miss exactly that 18 every year, um, you can see it's, you know, it's a little more than a school year, right? 234 and then if they miss 20 days per average year all the way up to 260. And you know you can do the math from there it goes up. But the most telling one is you know if you miss 14 or
022more days every school year you have you will graduate with one less year of schooling technically. Right? So it's kind of kind of just a numbers kind of thing but it's it's also sinks sinks it in for me like attendance really does build on itself. Right. So all right. Um so with the future ready plan and because we um again identified attendance as a major focus area um we then had to set kind of interim and a year three cumulative goal for what we wanted to see happen with student attendance. And so um one of the tricky things is um state attendance reporting is on a fullear lag which means that just recently we got the final numbers according to Pennsylvania from 2023 24 and about this time next year we'll get the 2425 final
023numbers. So that's why you see that the target for each school year is a you know this year's um target number is last year's attendance which there's all kind of interesting challenges and scenarios and so we'll talk about a little bit later about how we came to those targets and why you know we'll be each year re-evaluating those targets based on the the current attendance data that we do receive. Um, but that's just certainly important to note that um, attendance reporting is on a fullear lag for when you receive that information from the state. And we've we've tried to kind of do ways locally to get projections and and get close. Um, but because there are so many layers like it's, you know, students who are enrolled for 90 or more days and total number
024of absences, um, it's, you know, the our projections give us an idea, but we always are waiting on that final state number. But um it's heard enough for me for for the moment. And so Mrs. Painter plays a big part in this. She's certainly not the only part, but she is a dedicated person and she's, you know, been in this role a couple years. And so she's going to share a little bit about her piece of the attendance pie in terms of what she's doing to help us improve our overall student attendance. So >> hi everybody. Hello. >> Evening. So some of my roles are I support positive attendance via building and individual incentives. I work very closely with principles, the counselors, Dr. Gotred to make positive experiences out of attendance and to give incentives
025to those who are having trouble coming to school. When I took over the job about three years ago, I wanted to be more positive about attendance because, as you can imagine, it's a very negative space because I'm sending letters and going to the magistrate and things like that. So, I wanted to start with some positive things, which we'll talk about more in a minute. Um, I do make contact with parents and guardians. I mail letters. I do emails, phone calls, have virtual meetings. Um, we work closely with the blueprints truncy program and we do refer students to the magistrate when it comes time to do that. >> Okay. Sorry. My fault. So some of those positive attendance incentives have been for perfect attendance and I started slowly. Um we have talked with all the principles
026over the years about what we can do and I started with doing a a king or queen or superhero for a day at the elementary. So, I would collect all the perfect attendants at the elementary school for the nine weeks and I would pick a random name and go to their classroom, visit them, and they could wear a cape and like a little uh eye mask if they wanted to be a superhero for a day or a king or a queen for a day, and we would celebrate them all day long at the elementaryaries for having perfect attendance. The next year, I widened it a little bit further and I picked um one person from each grade at the elementary and they got an award for perfect attendance. And this year the principles are working
027very closely with me so we can do a more buildingwide incentive for perfect attendance. And um Miss Augustine did a rise and dine where we got crispy cream to donate donuts and we got um mama cheese to donate pizzas. >> You're kind of falling behind. >> I'm listening. I'm locked in on your presentation. Um, at the high school we had a free period during period 13. We had snacks. I beat two groups of high school boys at the game of pig. Um, I promise them next time I'll beat them wearing a dress and heels because I know I can. Then at Cleville and the middle school, we're currently working to develop an incentive for the semester one attendance recognition. >> All right. So, um, last last couple uh couple of pieces that I wanted to
028share. Um, first of all, thank you Mrs. Painter and she she truly has been a huge support for student attendance. Um, is, you know, in there every day. Kids are stopping in, teachers are stopping in to see Gus as well. So, you know, Gus has been a a big part of it. I thought maybe he'd come present with us, but I >> I kind of needed my >> um but no, she really has has, you know, thrown herself into that role and and um you know, put a lot of time and thought into helping us improve our student attendance. Um, so the last two things I want to to leave everyone with is um, so Pennsylvania breaks everything down into that, you know, blue zone, green zone, red zone. Um, in terms of targets for
029the statewide, you know, uh, federal, this is this is the percentage of students we want to see in regular attendance. And so the statewide target to exceed if you're at 94.1% regular attendance or higher then you're considered exceeding the state performance standard for regular attendance. If you are between 80.9 and exactly 94% that is meeting the performance standard but you're not exceeding because 94.1 is like the the top target right. Um, if you are below 80.9% you are considered below the performance standard. Um, and I put the last one there so that you can see the Pennsylvania statewide average you know across all schools is below the performance standard. So attendance is not uniquely a McGuffy challenge. Um, it is certainly our challenge as well. But um, just I think it's important for us to
030just kind of all be of the same understanding of these are the targets, right? the the ultimate goal would be for us to see uh more than 94% of our kids across the district in regular attendance. So, um this last one is a little bit of a snapshot of how we've done where we've been in the past. Um and I will I just realized as we're presenting um I have some I'll have some printed copies I'll go and get and bring back to you guys um so that you can have all of this um in print. I meant to have that before this, but I will um I'll bring those down to you as soon as we finish off. Um >> I actually have it for their email tomorrow. >> Oh, perfect. >> And there
031you go. It'll come to you in your email and you'll be all set. Um but I took us back to 1819. Um and I did put the note there that that year that we, you know, all remember shutting down, um they froze the attendance on that date. So I always said that those numbers were a little bit higher because we had two less months for kids to miss school. So there would have been inevitably been a handful of kids that would have moved to chronically absent had we stayed through the end of the year. Um and so you can see through each year um we did decrease for a couple years there. Um that was a stretch where um lots of things were kind of going off the rails and kids were being quarantined for
03210 or 15 days at a pop and that's you know when 18 is the magic number you get quarantined for two weeks you're kind of you know behind the eightball at that point especially if you get quarantined twice right so we're we're glad to be past those those years um and so what I have in the gray there because I I thought the the question might rise how did we establish those goals for the three years. Um and so at the end of the 23 24 year, um we tried to come up with projected regular attendance numbers so that we didn't have to wait a full year delay. And we looked at the enrollment on the last day of school. We tried to calculate how many kids had missed more than 18 days. Um we
033did not look at whether they'd been enrolled 90 days or not. Um, so I knew that our targets potentially would be a little bit lower than the actual state number, but I I thought it was better to cast a wide net instead of being overly optimistic of what we thought our numbers would be. Um, we just recently did get the actual PTE data for 23 24. Um, and it was a good bit more positive than we were expecting. um and a bit a good bit more positive than when we were trying to set guesstimate those targets. So, what we'll do this spring is we'll go in and we'll re-evaluate those three-year targets and increase those. Um but I do want to I want to give a couple couple things. First of all, like we are
034proud, right, that our attendance data is is reflective of, you know, some positive growth. Um but a a few notes I want to kind of make with that. One is when we have data that is challenging to us, right? That's below where we want it to be. I try to always encourage everyone let's not get too low, right? Like let's figure out why why is the data what it is and and let's figure out a way to build from it, right? And I want to practice the same when the data is is more positive that I don't want us to be like and look how great we are, our numbers are up because it changes every year. Exactly. Like we're done. It changes every year especially because 2425 is already locked right like that school
035year has already ended. we won't know for, you know, 11 months how we did. Um, but, you know, we want to be aware that there's, you know, it's different kids each year to a certain extent. Um, kids have different situations, different medical things come up. So, I I don't, you know, I'd love for it to just stay, you know, at those numbers or even higher. Um, but we also, you know, our main focus isn't what's the number. Our main focus is okay, what have we been doing that's helped the numbers move in a positive direction. How do we try to sustain that? And then if we do see, you know, any kind of a dip in in the next school year, we try to, you know, evaluate and adjust and say, okay, what got us
036here? How do we, you know, we came down a little bit? Why did we come down? What was what things might have happened? What did we change? and just every year using that data, good or bad, um to try to chart our next course forward. But I think it's important, you know, for for our purposes to just always be talking about how we're doing, what those numbers are. Um and so yeah, that's that is where we are as of the end of 2324. Um and we'll see where you know where we go over the rest of this future ready plan, but um appreciate your time. And Mrs. Painter, is there anything I left out that you wanted to share? Okay. Awesome. Yes, Miss Jackson. >> I just want to make sure I read this correctly.
037So 2223, let's say high school, >> it was 68.3. Yeah. When the final numbers came in, that's that last column for 2324. We're up at to 82.4. Am I reading that correctly? >> Yes. So PTE has us that all of the columns to the left of the gray were the official state numbers. And same thing with that. >> Yes. So they have us up significantly especially in the high school. Other buildings are you know also up a good amount um in their numbers. >> So yeah we >> considering you're talking about percentage points that's a lot. >> Yeah. So yeah we yeah we you know it is when you look from 22 23 to 23 24 a significant take upward but again with caution right because we want to we don't want to you know
038be too high when we're up and we don't want to be too low when we're down. Yes, you're correct. >> That brings me to my next question. It's the same question I ask every time we talk about attendance. So, you probably know what it is. >> Okay. >> And that is the mixed cyber. Yes. >> Attendance. It's calculated into part incident. >> They are part of this formula as well. Yep. >> Okay. And how much of a difference does that make? Like do they have >> a significant attendance problem that is part of the overall >> Yeah. So, that's that's a a good question. And so it's and it's an interesting answer and in my opinion not all but some of our kids in mix are there in part because they had some attendance challenges
039when they were in the building and and that's part of what they have seen as a you know a change or you know if it's there's been situations where maybe a parent says I'm not sure what to do to get them to school. Can we try this? And so in some cases, children that are in the building with attendance challenges will go into MCBER and they will have improved attendance. And the way if anyone is not familiar, the attendance for MCBER, they submit a an attendance Google form that states, you know, I am present today. Um it's, you know, the ver the online equivalent of taking role. And so if they submit that form, I am present today, they're present. um if they submit they can actually submit that they're absent and then that would
040be an excused absence and if they just don't submit the form at all they're unexcused. So we've we've seen some children change to that you know educational setting and have improved attendance. We've also seen some children that have had attendance struggles even in cyber with doing that digital form. So I I would say it's there's no like straight line of like you know they do worse with attendance. Um but I would say that a number of our cyber students went there partly because of attendance challenges in the building. >> So then when we're looking at these goals of ways to increase our attendance overall for the district >> we have a walk for middle school high school but I don't see >> cyber. So are we not? >> So they so for for this data
041they are being included in whichever building they would whichever building they would attend if they were in person. So they are they are part of this data but to your point there's not a we don't have a mixed cyber specific um statistic um mostly because for from a a Pennsylvania PTE standpoint there is not like a separate school building from mix cyber we you know they would be considered still a middle school student or a high school student. So then when you're looking at making these goals for each particular building to increase are we also setting goals for mixed cyber? >> Uh we have not specifically like we haven't said increase mixed cyber attendance you know to this percent regular attendance. Um >> are we looking at increasing it at all? Like not maybe not
042by a certain amount but like >> different things to be done to increase attendance in general in the center. >> Um maybe not as one of these goals. I will say we we definitely work with the mixy students if they are um in the truency pipeline. Mrs. Painter does work with them. Um I've started sharing with the principles. All of the principles and counselors have mentor access for kids associated with their building that are in mix cyber. So, we have an effort I've I've tried to make this year an effort to [clears throat] be more intentional with the cyber students of sending regular email updates to the families of um sharing with the um principles and counselors how they're doing. Um now, more of that has been how they're doing in their classes than necessarily
043if they're attending or not. But I I do think that's something we could probably talk about as a team of like hey mix cyber specifically how many of them are chronically absent how many absences and what I do like throughout the year like at the semester mark I'll do a report of kids on track to be chronically absent at the halfway point in each building. And so what I think I could definitely add to kind of your point about cyber is I could look at all cyber kids, how many absences they have through the first semester. I think that's probably a good a good idea that I hadn't necessarily had in mind to do when I do that semester report, but I I will do that now that I'm kind of talking through it. It
044makes sense because they are in a lot of ways they are their own building. even though they're in these buildings, they, you know, they are their own school >> because the >> issue is different in that setting. >> Yeah. >> In the school building is the only reason. And then my final question is just um >> I forgot. >> Well, I did want to add that whenever I contact those parents cyber absences, I use a lot of Dan's data for the classes so that we can back up. Okay. They're not signing in, but they're also not doing their work or Yeah. They're doing the work, but they're forgetting to sign in. So, we try and, you know, figure out those problems there. Get those. >> Yeah. And then there is notification for the parent if
045the student doesn't exact. Yeah. >> So, because I'm thinking I had a parent who contacted me once about that very thing that they suddenly got a letter. >> They're like, I never even knew my child was supposed to be a powerful. So, they have power tool, they get an alert. >> Okay. All right. And then that was my question. My next question was um same numbers apply. So still 10 days 18 like there's all the same >> all the same criteria. And um the other thing that we do send out to every kid when they enroll in mixyber they get like a an introduction email that lists out you know how to log in um expectations for the class. And in that welcome email is a paragraph that talks about how to do the attendance
046form um that if they don't fill it out, they'll be considered absent for the day. And Mrs. Painter is always tagged on those as well so that she is aware of which kids are moving into mix cyber. So yeah, they they same rules apply with the 10 and then the um 18 would be the the max number before they're chronically absent. >> Thank you foring my question. >> Yeah, Miss Fry. Yes, I have one more clarifying question. I think it's more for Mainer, >> but it's >> it's regarding what you just stated, how the um notifications to parents are the same as if the kids were in school. And then he mentioned through power school, so they don't get the one call. >> They don't get the phone call because they have until 3:00 to
047sign in. So that one call comes from first period attendance. So if you are a brickandmortar student and you're not in first period, you're considered absent for the day. And that's when the call goes out. And the call is to notify parents that they're not in our care, >> right? >> But the cyber students have until 3:00 to sign in. Okay. So it's put in the next day, but you would get an alert on your phone like anytime a student's marked death or a grade comes in, right? >> That would come in on your phone that way. >> Is there a way to set up a one call at a later time just for those students? I don't know how that would work. >> I'm not sure either. I think that would be a Mr.
048Wilson question. >> I mean, so I mean technically we could. It' be a little more manual process, but that's something we could do. I mean, certainly. >> Thinking from a would it help? I mean, I'm thinking is it something that could help bring awareness to the parents? >> Well, and typically it in brick and mortar schools, school buildings, they'll do a morning attendance and then they'll do an afternoon attendance, right? Because I know when I taught, I would get from the office, this is the morning attendance and then in the afternoon, this is the afternoon. And it was important because if you have a child who wasn't here in the morning but they came in late because they were in the doctor's appointment that's classified differently and that would be on the afternoon attendance. So
049kind of that same idea that you would get maybe an earlier and then a later update. >> It's just it's interesting because as we're talking about attendance from from a brick and mortar perspective, we're talking about us in the seat whereas cyber we're looking actually at work produced meaning they have to self-report themselves. So, it is a little different that way, but certainly that's one of the ways we could look at it. >> But there is a two-step process, right? Because they still have to [clears throat] submit that they're attended that they're here >> and then they have to do submit their work. Correct. Right. >> But but work Yeah. I didn't money money, but uh attendance is not work produced in a cyber nor is it. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. Hey guys, I
050appreciate it. And I want to say something too about both of these guys. Um, and it's and it's apparent in the way they approach their presentations and when you talk to them. Uh, both Kelly and Dan are proactive but also positive. They've brought a positive um, we use the word vibe to this. But you have, Kelly and and Dan has been right right along with you and that has made a difference is that this is very tough work and oftentimes you are the one who has to make that call that it's not a positive but you've done things proactive and positive way. So, I just want to thank you for that. I think that's also reflective up here. So, >> thank you. >> Thanks everybody. >> Um, next on the agenda No, I got >>
051All right. >> Gotcha. On the agenda this evening, we have a motion to replace a 20 plus year uh old boulder bowler boiler boiler in uh Joe Walker Elementary with the new high efficiency boiler. Uh here to provide some details uh for this request is Mr. Peg McKe, our supervisor of buildings and grinds. Mr. >> Hey, good evening everybody. Um yep, this is the last uh 20 plus year old boiler we have in the district. If we replace this one, uh, then the oldest boilers we'll have will be six years old. Um, as I tried to explain in my background, um, Joe Walker is not going anywhere. Uh, when you look, the township, you know, spent a lot of time and money getting ready for sewage. Uh, we have some private investment going on down
052there with some housing and so on. A few years ago, I got together with the architect. We sketched up a few things like how would we uh take care of that 100 year old part of the building uh make some changes to there? How would we change around um how we get in and out of that property and so on. So you know from a facility standpoint of view uh personally I don't see that building not having students in it for at least the next 15 years. um you know for the 21,000 now we replaced the one that failed last year uh it start you know we started it up at the beginning of this heating season uh right now uh just a little man's planing thing right now that high efficiency boiler is just
053running at one efficiency because the old one can only run at one efficiency so we replace this old one with another one just like the first one then we can start with the high efficiency. We'll get some savings out of it. Realistically, would it pay for itself? No, I don't think so. But the, you know, the reliability to it is is much better. Um, we will certainly save money on it. The building will be more comfortable because we're not heating water to 180° when it's 55 outside and you only need a tiny bit of heat and which is, you know, where we are with the old ones. the new ones, they adjust themselves based on outside temperature and and so on. So, um, and then when we put the we had the first one put
054in ADM, our our longtime energy partner, did the install on the first one, but we had them put in valves and so on getting ready for this one. Um, and they know how. Um, I'll call myself frugal. Um, but, um, maintenance, uh, crew, we can put this second one in ourselves. Obviously, as I put in the background, we still have to have it um, inspected by labor and industry. Not an issue, but uh, should be a pretty quick uh, switch out uh, once we get it uh, and so on. So that's the plan is is to just try and keep you know updating and and get our uh you know core uh items of our uh facilities um you know so they're here for the long term. So the next thing that you know we
055have to worry about is hey how are we going to renovate right so we're not so worried about just keeping things running and keeping things warm. So >> is it in the budget? >> It is in my budget. So, right now we're asking for it to come to to get the authorization to pull the money from uh capital improvements. And I think we have what around 120 in there or somewhere around there. Um we'll see. We've been pretty good with with the budget and buildings and ground. >> You guys are very good. >> Yeah. So, if I don't have to grab it out of there, I'm not going to, but you know, that would be an end of the year uh end of the year decision uh kind of thing. But we thought, okay, um,
056let's earmark it out of that fund for now and then, uh, you know, if we have to pull money out of there, you know, we can. But, um, you know, my goal is to always stay away from that fund. That's kind of it's not as big as I would like it to be. Um, you know, I'm going to credit Console for that. You know, they've started a real reduction in some of our, uh, real revenue. Um, so I like to keep that more for a rainy day fund. And you know, frankly, $21,000, it's not chump change, but it's not $200,000 either. So, you know, we try to just try and get that out of our operating budget where we can. Any any questions from anybody? >> Oh, good. All right. Thank you. >> All right.
057Another thing that I guess we'll require for applause to is after an impass of 135 days. So since June 30th, the state has finally passed um a budget. Here tonight to discuss the ramifications of those 135 days and to the degree that we can share with you at this point what that means for McDuffy moving forward. Uh is sh Hobbock. Sure. >> Thank you. And Mr. Bodin is gonna help me. >> Like Dr. Oberg said, we do have a budget. There it is. >> All right, there we go. >> Thank you. >> You can click this one. >> Maybe maybe won't be. >> All right. As Dr. Berg mentioned the PA state budget has been approved and signed by the governor about 135 days late but it is done for McGaffy. Our basic education funding
058did increase slightly under $20,000. So that's positive. However, our special education funding actually decreased about $11,000. Um and that has to do with the formula and our average daily membership ADMs. You'll hear that term uh decreasing from the last year. Our ready tolearn block grant actually increased $50,000. That block grant is used to pay salaries and benefits for our kindergarten teachers. When it was first implemented, it was a classroom reduction project. So that pays for those kindergarten teachers. Our career and tech ed funding actually increased about $7,300 as well. So overall, McGuffy will see a net gain for 2526 of about $66,000 in revenue. Dr. There was also some cyber charter reform. This was a big part of the Pennsylvania bill. A lot of school districts would like to have seen the flat $8,000 uh
059per child tuition cost. That did not happen. But they did revamp the formula slightly. Um PTE requires the schools to report on this form. It's called a form 363 some of our expenditures. And what they're trying to do is look at our average daily membership and how much we're spending, what our budget expenditures are for the school year to to determine what we're paying per child to educate our children. That then translates to how much we're paying for a cyber student. It's one cost for basic education and more than double that cost for special education. In the new bill that passed, there is still going to be a formula. So, every school district is still going to pay a different amount for cyber charter. However, they are allowing us now to deduct some of these
060expenses that we are paying from that calculation. So, it should reduce the amount of per student tuition we're paying. What we are early on estimating, because I won't know for sure until I see the actual formula and the form, um, we are anticipating a savings of about $175,000 under this new formula. >> Just McGuffy or that's Pencil? >> Just McGuffy. And that's for this 25 26. considering that that normally runs us approximately a million dollars. That's >> oh last year was 1.7. So not a lot of savings but every little bit helps. Right. >> And I will say I say this all the time but I'll say it again. Um the reason for that is because cyber school and cyber school parents are very vocal with their representatives. Um, and we need our schools and
061our parents to be more vocal with our representatives. Dr. >> Okay. As you all know too, for a while there, we did not have a federal budget, but happy to report that that has been adopted. And there were a couple iffy funding um amounts listed on that bill for title funds for school districts. I'm happy to report that for now, Title One A funds are still intact. For our school district, that's about $340,000 a year. The majority of those funds pays for salaries and benefits for our reading specialists at the elementary levels. There's for for 2526, we still have our title 2 and title four funding. There is uncertainty moving forward if that is going to remain or if it does remain if the uses will remain the same. So currently our title two money
062is used for professional development for staff, teachers, um administrators that if that if they change the use of those funds, some of that professional development cost then may fall to the district instead of being funded by the federal money. Title four funds right now are paying for our AP tests. I don't know if you all know, but AP tests cost about $100 per student to take one AP test. Our title funds are paying for those tests so that our students do not have to pay for those tests. And then it is saying also for some educational software. All right. Now to get to where we are currently. for our 2526 expenditures and this is through October 31st. We budgeted 37 million. We have spent just a little over 11 million. So 29.8% of our budget.
063I am going to say right now these numbers are a little skewed just because of where we were with receiving revenue. So, I was not paying some of our bills until we had that revenue, namely some charter tuition costs. So, these I'm going to tell you these now, but then come January when our money starts coming in and then I have paid all of those, you're going to see a little bit of a different picture. Go ahead. So, as you know, we had um purchased some software through Frontline that allows us to do more enhanced financial planning, more enhanced financial comparisons. And this next slide is one of the products of that software. So, what you're looking at here is a year-to-year comparison of our expenditures. So the 2020 2025 FY2025 that's actually our 2425
064school year and then to the right of that you see our 2526 school year. So as you can see last year at this time we had already spent almost $13 million but because we were being very conservative and waiting until we had some funding coming in. We are right now at 11.1. Like I said that'll change. To the right of that, you can see the year-over-year change. That is telling you where our savings basically from one year to the next has been coming from. Salaries and benefits. That is because we did not have to make part of our piecers benefits payments. That is going to be due next week and that is over a million dollars. So because the the state wasn't sending us our subsidies, they allowed us to hold off on that payment.
065So that'll catch up. Purchase services as you see being less 844,000 that encompasses this cyber charter cost. So that'll catch up. Dr. D. On the revenue side, we had budgeted 35 12 million as of October 31st. We're at 13 and a half with the majority of that coming from our real estate tax dollars. We have received 38% of our anticipated revenue to date. That is about to change. Here is another one of those sideby-side comparisons. So, as you can see, 2425, we already have had 17.1 million. Right now, through 2526, we're at 13.5 million. So that's a big difference of $3.5 million sitting there and all of that basically is coming from that state subsidies. We are now starting to see in our portal state subsidies sitting there that are to be deposited to our
066accounts between now and October 30th. So my plan is >> or sorry November 30th I'm going backwards. November 30th. My plan is once I see those deposits over the next two weeks, I'm going to pay off that $7 million loan. We really didn't use any of it. We had to pay some interest and fees on it. The money that we are receiving from the additional revenues was going to basically pay for those interest and fees that we paid on that loan. I have heard that if school districts had taken loans out through the PA Treasury Department that they would have the interest and fees forgiven on the PA Treasury loans. But no school district that I know even knew they could take out a loan through the PA Treasury Department. >> Yeah. So there's no
067talk right now of the state >> sending us back any of the money that we have paid for these loans. >> Yeah. They should pass then. >> Yeah. >> All right. Looking ahead. So after December's reorganization meeting, I would like to then start getting a budget committee in place so that we can start looking at projections for 2625. I will provide some estimated expenditures for the 2627 school year. I'll provide some revenue analysis for the 2627 year. What is nice about this new software that have is we can play different scenarios out. And one of the um handouts that I gave you the board members is just a little bit more detailed information of our yearover-year in our revenues and expenditures. So you can see that broken out. Um in January I will also start
068working with the building principles to look at their building budgets for the 26th 27th school year. >> I have a couple questions. Yeah, that's all I have. And my next slide actually has questions. >> Thank you. Um, who's got any final numbers on last year's budget yet? I know that typically is late, but >> they are currently working on it. I actually talked with the auditor today and she said probably early December she'll have a final analysis for us. Okay. >> She won't. She told me she probably won't do the official audit and have it signed until the new year, but she'll have our numbers. It does look positive though, so that's good. >> And then um when you say you'd like to have a budget committee in place, are you talking a budget committee
069made up of board members? >> Yes, made up of board members. >> So then, um those meetings with are how how often are you thinking they're going to meet? >> I would say if we can do an early meeting in January, we may be able to do one a month. Um because I will also be meeting with the building principles and supervisors on their particular budgets. I would say one a month. >> The reason I asked and Dr. over um can speak to this as well, but um what we did last year >> with our very first committee that we have policy committee was >> we passed or voted and approved the schedule of meetings for that policy committee at the same time that we did the board meeting so that we didn't have to
070pay extra for the advertising. >> Oh yeah, that would be >> so if we were doing the same thing maybe we could consider >> so that they're all done at the same time. >> Absolutely. Because these are going to have to be public meetings. >> Yes. And I plan on starting those in January just like after the reorg meeting to get committee in place from the board. Yeah. Board members anyway. >> Just to save us money where we can. >> Yes. >> Because advertisement is not. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. Okay. Any other questions? >> Thank you. Appreciate that. Appreciate the update. >> Yep. And Mr. President, that's all I have for committee. Thank you, Dr. Oberg, and thanks to everybody that presented. It is now 7:05. Let's reconvene at 7:10. now 711 and going
071to call to order the McGuffy School Board regular school board meeting. Roll call, please. here. >> Here >> we now uh like to welcome to the podium Pastor Linda who's going to lead us in a word of prayer. She is from East Buffalo Presbyterian Church. >> Will you pray with me? God, we come together this evening with many tasks of the day still on our hearts and minds. But we pray now that you might transition us in our thinking and choices to this time and place. Remind each person around this circle here what a privilege it is to be able to make policy and procedures that affect our children. So as we come together tonight, we pray for your wisdom. We pray for your guidance in this season of thanksgiving. We would pray that we
072truly might learn to be people that are very thankful and may our thanksgiving turn into thanksgiving. We offer this prayer, Lord, in your precious and holy name. Amen. >> Thank you. >> May we rise for the pledge. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. want to make an announcement. Um that we held an executive session today at 5:00 to discuss personnel. Um couple other announcements before we get to the public participation. A I want to wish a very happy birthday to Miss Shingle. Happy birthday. Um, and Mr. Laser, you have announcement as well. >> I'd just like to make an announcement. We had some very nice Veterans Day ceremonies. I attended Joe Walker in Claysville. Um,
073one thing that I would just like to let everybody be aware of, we had a fellow at the Claysville that was a World War II veteran. He was 99 years old, as sharp as attack. They say that he'll be a hundred years old the day after Christmas. >> His name was Mr. Hamilton. So, it was just a pleasure to meet Mr. Hamilton as a World War II veteran and thanks to all our veterans who served. >> Thank you all. >> Thank you, Mr. Laser. >> At this time, we will take public comment on agenda items. Chief, Mr. President, call Vicky Jordan, Buffalo Township. >> Thank you, Chief. Yes, sir. Thank you. going to be short and sweet. Vicky Jordan, Buffalo Township. He beat me to the happy birthday, but happy birthday, Mrs. Jingle. Um, I
074just want to touch on the high school clubf fundraisers real quick. Um, I personally got some I've never stood here in opposition of any fundraiser or grant and to my recollection, I don't think any of the board ever has either. So, I just want to say that um had that information been included on the agenda last month, none of this situation would have happened. I also want to say when I stood before you last month, I was very clear in my question. Due to the lack of information, what are you guys being asked to vote on? Are you being asked to vote on clubs? Are you being asked to vote on the fundraisers? The clubs have always been my issue, as you all know. I think parental consent should be required, but fundraising never. So,
075if anybody at any point had clarified that that agenda item was just about fundraising, I don't know if you could have passed it or not due to the lack of information. Um, but I just wanted to make it clear to the public that I've never stood in opposition of any fundraising or donations and I know the board got some blame, too. and you guys haven't either to my knowledge. So all I want to ask is that moving forward we do better with the information sharing and that the agenda looks the way it should. So thanks for your time. >> Thank you, Miss Jordan. Chief, >> Mr. President, that concludes public comment. >> Thank you, Chief. >> Yes, sir. Thank you. Need a motion to approve the minutes of the October 16th, 2025 school board meeting
076as submitted. >> So move. >> All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Abstain. Motion carries. >> I need a motion to approve the general fund schedule of bills from October 17, 2025 to November 20th, 2025. Check number 814444 through check number 81578 in the amount of $940,361 as submitted. >> Second. >> Any discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Same. Motion carries. A motion to approve the food service schedule of bills dated October 20th, 2025. Check number 7817 through check number 7826 in the amount of $161,592.3 cents as submitted. So move >> second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> Opposed? Stain. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the treasurer's report for the month of October 2025 as submitted. So move. Second >> discussion. All
077those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carries. >> Need a motion to approve the affiliation agreement between West Virginia University and McGuffy School District relating to the placement of pre-ervice and/or student teachers in the school system. The effective date shall be January 1st, 2026 through December 31st, 2030. So move >> second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. >> Stained. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the request from West Virginia University to have a student teacher with the McGuffy School District January 26, 2026 through March 13, 2026 pending receipt of all required clearances. >> So move. >> Second. >> Discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. >> Stain. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the request from Penn West University to
078have a student teacher with McGuffy School District January 21st, 2026 through May 1st, 2026 pending receipt of all required clearances. >> So move. >> Second. >> Discussion. >> All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Stain. Motion carries. Need a motion to accept a $2,000 donation from an anonymous donor to pay for warm-up jackets for the Boti team per the terms of the McGuffy School District policy 702 gifts, grants, and donations. >> Discussion. All those in favor say I. I. >> Oppos. Thank you for that. Thank you. >> Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the request for Mr. Justin Weise to begin a crocheting club in a middle school to be run once a month during Highlander period. There would be no cost to the district. >> Second discussion. >> Um is Mr. Wise
079teaching that our teachers >> I was kind of kidding. >> There are men who crochet. Yeah, I do myself personally. >> All those in favor say I. >> Oppos? Stay. Motion carries. >> A motion to approve the memorandum of understanding by and between the Pennsylvania State Police and McGuffy School District as presented. >> So move. >> Second. >> Discussion. >> Yes. I have >> Go ahead, Miss Fry. M. >> Thank you. I'm sorry. Um, I just have two questions. um in within theou on page four and five where it talks about section 912 does that clause address I've had people ask me about that but we're a hunting community we're a farming community kids with pocket knives they come to school they forget they have it in their pocket they let somebody know that clause
080allow for that leniency of lawful purpose of of having it on you if that makes sense. >> It hasn't in the past. >> No, I'm asking the question if that would allow >> I'm just saying it hasn't in the past. I know students who have >> Yeah, I'm going to look at theou but as for pocket knives. So, um there is a boy scout exception in the law um for a private length under 2 and a half inches. Um but the student is generally and I can't speak to this district but in general my knowledge of working with districts students are still disciplined for the pocket knife of less than two and a half inches. Um but it's not as severe as if it was over two and a half is considered a deadly weapon.
081Um, of course, box cutters don't have to be two and a half inches. You know, it's just the old choice not exception for. Um, so if it is over 2 and a half inches, generally it could lead to expulsion. That is up to the district. I'm not sure how this district handles a student that comes forward saying, "I left this in my hair." Many of my districts handle that and didn't me. So, >> so does this allow for it? I get I think that's where I'm getting. Does this clause allow for it not to be mandatory to report to the police? I think that's where the >> lying. So that's a really good question actually. Um in in this case specifically what you're speaking to uh it is left to your building principles >> okay
082>> to make that determination and if it rises to another level that may be where we bring in the McDuffy school police but that doesn't supersede first and foremost your building principles. >> So they make the first call. What thisou is not saying you found a student with a knife, you have to let us know. >> No. >> Okay. >> And chief chief, I I want you to step in because [clears throat] >> No, I I know I'm not saying it's not notified. And in fact, um, act 44 just came out that not only do we notify where the weapon was placed uh, in that building, but actually the entire district. So, that's something that just came about, but in the past, if there was a weapon, we would notify Okay. >> But I think
083you're asking the question of who handles it first and foremost. >> Yes and no. It's I think it's kind of a little bit of both. Um it freaks parents out that like I said, we live in a community where I mean kids still whittle. I mean, you know, in all honesty. And so I think it freaks parents out to think that if their child forgets it in their pocket and it becomes known to the district that they're going to be reported to the police for that. whether it's a minor or a major case of whatever. So I guess I was just curious if you know >> Chief. >> Okay. Thank you, Doc. Um that refers to our our department referring it to PSP, Pennsylvania State Police. That that's not the reporting purposes for principles reporting
084the students bringing it. Okay, that's what thisou is. It is clearly for our our district to get services from the Pennsylvania State Police. >> So it's just a statistical thing. this was an incident that was found. It's not this kid brought this knife here. >> Right. Again, that's not reported to the state police. It's reported to the state police by them getting a copy of our safe school report, but it is not mandatory for us to say we have x number of knives collected or confiscated. >> Okay. So, when the student is found then and they're brought to the office, for instance, the the state police aren't called and said, "This is what we found." >> That's correct. We handle through building principles and the building principles refer to us if if prosecutions. >> Okay.
085Okay. Thank you for clarifying. >> This reference to 912 is the um crimes code definition of weapon which does have that boycott exception in it. >> Okay. I missed that part. So, thank you. Um my last question is if if this can be amended. Hold on. Hold on. I'm sorry. Mu. Okay. If theou is required by PA code, >> why is there a clause that allows amendments? Is it just a general clause because it's anouou that allows for changes that maybe it can even be the word's slipping my mind but like specific to Mandafi like add specifics for our district or is it just for the law changes now we have to update thisou and it's just a general reference to the public that this is subject to change if there's changes that need made
086I guess is my >> it's and it then it would have to come back to the board for approval. Correct. >> Got it. Okay. Thank you. That that was it. Thank you. >> Any further discussion? >> Have one for chief if I may. Yes, Mr. >> Do we have anou with our local Donagle or South Franklin or Morris Township Police? We have with Donagle. >> Donagle. >> Yes, sir. It's added in the sameou. >> Okay. And how about the South Franklin Lord? >> We do not have anou with South Franklin. >> I'm sorry, Mr. Renette. I didn't hear that. >> You would need one for there as well because the statute specifically states you have to have anou with the local law enforcement where there's any school district property. >> It doesn't say buildings. So,
087for example, the districts I worked in, if we had a baseball field, we'd have to have anou in that jurisdiction >> with those those offices. >> Joe Walker is in South Franklin, so we'd have to have one with South Franklin Police Department, but apparently South Franklin contracts out the same as Morris. >> Yeah. >> And I believe Canton Township, that's different. >> Yep. South >> so many hours or so much. But right um Dr. Oick and I will talk to this and present that our findings to you all. >> Thank you. >> Any further discussion before we vote? >> Do with that being said if there's a need for additional do we pass this now and come back to it? This is Wait, wasn't that too? >> Yeah. >> Oh, well, I know he said
088it was included that >> the was included in >> So, this is state and local. >> Right. That's what I thought. So, >> we'll need for next time. >> So, this is something that we do every two years. >> Yes, >> Chief. Is there is there a time limit on >> There is. I'd ask if we could we could approve this one tonight and we'll make an additional one with just uh >> with just the green regional. >> Have a look at that. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. >> Any further discussion? >> All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? >> Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the application for homebound instruction for student A, grade 11 for medical reasons. So move second. >> Discussion. All those in
089favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carries. A motion to approve the list of high school club and activity fundraisers for the 2526 school year retroactive to October 16th, 2025. >> Bless you. >> Second. >> Okay. Discussion. >> All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? >> Same. Motion carries. Need a motion to declare the below list of textbooks along with any supplemental or related resources associated with the attached list as unused and unnecessary and authorized disposal of the items as per the terms and conditions of McGuffy School District policy 706.1 disposal of obsolete outdated equipment. >> So second >> discussion all those in favor say I. I >> opposed. Same. Motion carries. A motion to approve directory information to be added to all four student handbooks. High school, Middle School, Cla
090Elementary School, and Joe Walker Elementary School. >> Move. >> Discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. Opposed. Stain. Motion carries. Need a motion to hire Jessica Hickman as a speech and language pathologist at master step 8 prrated if necessary subject to assignment and per the terms and conditions of the current McGuffy Education Association agreement and pending receipt of all required clearances medical exams and act 168 verifications. >> So move second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> Opposed? >> Motion carries. Welcome Miss Hickman. Good evening, Dr. Over, Mr. Kern, Mr. Thomas, members of the board, esteemed colleagues, and guests. It is my pleasure to introduce Mrs. Jessica Hickman, our new speech language pathologist. Mrs. Hickman is a community member and has served as a substitute teacher in our district since 2016.
091Prior to serving as a substitute here, she was a speech language pathologist for 17 years in Texas, New York, Virginia, and Warren, Pennsylvania in the northeastern part of the state. She received her bachelor's degree in communication science and disorders from Penn State University and her master's degree from Radford University in Virginia in the same field of study. Jessica began the school year as an extended day-to-day substitute for the position in which she was just approved. She has done a fabulous job of teaching, leading commun leading IEP meetings, and working with our stakeholders to support our students. Please join me in welcoming her. Thank you for the opportunity. Um I have been a part of this community for 13 years. Um and so we I am grateful to step in from mom to I guess to
092substitute and being a full-time employee. But the kids are great, the staff is great, and I appreciate the opport secondary principal as interim athletic director for the McGathi school district retroactive to October 20th, 2025 with a PDM stipen of $50 a day. >> So move second. >> Discussion. All those in favor say I. I >> opposed. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve Mrs. Chelsea Mahoney as a substitute teacher, PAR educator, secretary, food service employee, retroactive to November 18th, 2025. >> So move. >> Second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Same. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve Shannon McMaster as an emergency day-to-day substitute teacher and parent educator for the 2526 school year pending receipt of all clearances and act 168 verifications. >> So move second >> discussion.
093All those in favor say I. I. >> Opposed. Motion carries. We a motion to approve Bonnie Calen, Cody Fuller, and William Mitchell as drivers for GGMC for the 2526 school year pending receipt of all required clearances as presented. >> Second discussion. >> All those in favor say I. I. >> Opposed? >> Motion carries. Need a motion to approve Daniel Goodrow as a driver for first student for the 2526 school year pending receipt of all required clearances as presented. So move >> second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I opposed. >> Mr. K. Motion carries. That's okay. No, we did correct. >> Yeah. >> Need a motion to approve Renee Cambuzzi and John Laser to attend and chaperone members of the McGuffy FFA to the Pennsylvania Farm Show on January 12th through 13,
0942026 in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. >> So move second. >> Discussion. >> Request a roll call vote, please. >> Yes, sir. Yes, Mr. Thomas. the cost of the district there if it's not included in their like department budget from what line item of our budget does it come >> the only thing that we're going to pay for the substitute teachers that have to fill in for them on their ro they have their own student activity FFA account so this trip will be paid through their student activity fund >> so the substitute teachers it comes out of the student activity fund also >> the general fund the general fund >> yes >> any further Other discussion roll call >> yes >> Mr. Ro >> yes >> Jackson >> yes >> Mr. Laser >> Mr. Barnett >> yes >>
095Jingle >> yes >> Mr. Thomas >> yes >> Mr. Banata >> yes >> Mr. >> Yes. Motion carries. 801. Need a motion to approve the purchase of a Camas high efficiency boiler to replace the one remaining existing 20-year-old CAS boiler for Joe Walker Elementary School in the amount of $21,111.37 from the Bell equipment fund to be made available from the capital improvement funds. So move second >> discussion. I would just like to thank our maintenance crew for installing this. This is not an easy task and these are very very efficient boilers nowadays. They really save an awful lot of money. They're smart technology really reduce our cost as far as energy. >> Any further discussion? >> All those in favor say I. >> Opposed. Abstain. Motion carries. I need a motion to adopt resolution providing
096for the appointment of Miss Charlene Hoverchock and deputize Keystone Collections Group to collect real estate taxes for the McGuffy School District for properties located in Blaine Township as authorized by 24 PS1 of the Pennsylvania Public School Code until the next election. >> So move >> discussion. All those in favor say I. I >> opposed. I will stay. >> Okay. Motion carry 711. >> Yeah. Motion carries 711. I need a motion to approve the revisions to resolutions 2526 number two through number nine to reflect the compensation for South Franklin Township, Green Hillsboro, Buffalo Township, Donicle Township, East Finley Township, West Finley Township, Morris Township, and Slavesville Burough elected tax collectors in the McGuffy School District as submitted. So second >> discussion. >> I just have a question. I know it's the rate cuz they're they were
097kind of fluctuating everywhere. The determination is based on the assessed value of the properties in that township. Correct. Okay, >> that was it. Thank you. >> Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. >> Opposed? Stain. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve payment to Weiss Birkhart Kramer LLC for two invoices dated November 12th, 2025 in a total amount of $4,5157 as submitted. >> So move >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I oppose. >> Abstain. Motion carries 72. What are we at here? >> Record. >> I know. >> First reading. >> All right. We have a first reading policy um for travel reimbursements, federal programs there for your review. Facilities use report doc. Mr. >> President, we had four uses in October. uh PTO meetings in Joe Walker and Clail
098and then also PTO hosted trunk or treat at both Joe Walker and Cla. >> Thank you, Dr. B. Uh the budget expenditure report for the month of October 25 is presented for your review. Cafeteria reports for the month of October 2025 are presented for your review. The Pecard spending report for the month of 2025 is presented for your review. Do we have a solicitor's report? Madam, >> we do not see things. >> Thank you. >> Do we have a western area career and technology update, Miss Fry? >> Yes. Um, I have all the attachments on there for public view. Um, I hope you have had time to review them. Um, our student of the month was Mitchell Fowler in the welding from Trinity School District. Um he had quite the crew with him, his entire
099family, plus a little newborn. Believe they said she was six weeks old. She was the cutest little thing. Um but anyways, it it was really nice to see the family support that he had with him. Um it was great, but um he he's doing great with the with the school. He's >> just excelling. So really good to see that. Um, other than that, all of the attachments are there for your view and um, that's it. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Frost. >> Thank you. >> Pennsylvania School Board Association uh, report, Miss Birthday Girl, Miss Shingle. >> Thank you. >> Um, couple of things. Uh, January 17th from 9 to 11:30, they start the interactive uh, board officers workshop. So, we're invited to that. And I don't know that anybody would be interested in doing
100um note tomorrow, November 21st on at 12:00 p.m., but it's on social media and school boards. You still can get in if you decide. And then there's a webinar coming up and I think this one sounds really interesting. It's December the 5th and it is at 12 noon. It's on how Congress is handling and shaping school law for this year. A reminder that they have the required um information that test that we all have to do with certifications as board members and we do all need to do them. So, they're all on and everything I'm telling you here is on in the book that we get in the bulletin or on their websites. It's not that I'm telling you anything any different. Uh, it's the same information. I even wonder if I should be reading
101it when you get the book, but I'm just reminding you there's a few things there that I think we should really look at. You know, it'd be nice to be in a workshop when we could talk about AI and all those things, but and they offer those little quick ones for 10 minutes. So, that's something to think about. Thank you very much. >> Thank you, Mr. Jingle. >> Policy committee report, Miss Jackson. So the October minutes are there for your review. Um I actually um had to miss the November meeting due to a family emergency. Um but policy 626.1 came out of that for the first reading and um just to keep in mind the way that works. First reading this month um and then at the next meeting will be although are we doing
102those in December since this early meeting or are we holding it till January? I would suggest we hold it to January. I would have to look at the calendar because we may have already advertised. I don't >> Yeah, we may have. >> Yeah, I just because typically we give the public like 30 days to review and the board 30 days to review and because the reorganizational meeting is much quicker than two weeks, um maybe we should consider extending that. I don't know how soon you need that policy passed. >> So if we held it till January and that for the second re which would be when we would vote on it and then that would give everybody time to review it if you have any questions or concerns to reach out. Does that work? Okay.
103>> Yep. >> Um and then we're still working of course on the AI. Um so the next meeting is actually in December. Um, it is December 9th, 2025. >> Thank you, Miss Jackson. >> And what what policy did that finish? >> I'm sorry. >> What policy are you continuing to work on there? >> We're working on it's 815.1. It's the AI artificial intelligence policy, acceptable use, um, and governance. And then kind of with that we had done we had completed 8:15 um which is your general accepted use policy for um technology in general. We decided to pull it from the from the agenda and hold on to it in case there were any changes that we needed to make as we reviewed both of them because 8:15.1 obviously relates to 8:15. So we'll probably We'll
104put them both on when they get back when we get done with them. >> And then what did you guys find out next? >> I can't remember what's on the bottom of the rolling agenda. >> Is it on the minutes? I don't remember. Um but we had determined >> um >> policy >> still in conversation. We talked about it last >> the attendance. >> Yeah. Anyway, we have a rolling agenda and I've said several times if anybody has anything um to bring it to us then we can add it to the rolling agenda and then we do give consideration if there's something the administration needs in a more timely matter then we will kind of bump it up. Hence policy 626.1 they need that. So, we kind of bumped it ahead um because they need
105it um with a spec within a specific timeline. Um but anything that anybody wants reviewed, just let us know and we'll add it to the what we have to do is add a sitting agenda and it kind of rolls as we get done connecting all up. >> Could you put zero? >> Yes. You're welcome. >> Thank you, M. Jackson. At this time, we will take public comment on non-aggenda and agenda items. Chief, Mr. President, Vicky Jordan, Buffalo Township. Thank you, Chief. Dicky Jordan, Buffalo Township. I just want to start out by saying I think uh huge improvements were made on the agenda for this month. Um and of course I'm never satisfied. So, um I'm going to request that when you print the agendas for the public that's in attendance that you also print out
106the attachments that you are now putting on the agenda. And with that said, I want to just say seeing how this month's agenda was presented to the public is a huge difference from how it's been done for several years now. And it really makes me wonder um how many things that should have been on there for public review haven't been. And I personally find that disturbing. I know I've been bringing it up for a few years now that we need more information. We have a right for more information. Um so I hope that continues. I hope you continue that. And with and with that said, I'd like to say that when you elect your next board president at next month's meeting, you should really think long and hard about who it is. It needs to
107be somebody who's willing to make sure that that gen agenda is being presented to the public as it should be, that the attachments are there that should be. And it's a very important role for whoever sits in that seat. I've seen many people sit there and once they have that position, they change who they are or were as board members. And I'd really like to see whoever takes that seat next. Not do that. I want the not the power to go to your head, but to remain not just as a guardian of the district, but as a guardian of the students and the community and staff, of course. So, thinking long and hard about who you're going to put in that role next. It's an important role to me who you who you put there.
108So, thank you for your time. Thank you, >> Chief. >> Mr. President, uh Christie Florian, East Henley Township. Thank you, Chief. >> Good evening everyone. Christy Florian, East Finley Township. I want to start off with uh something about the attendance situation. Um, a student being late to school because of a bus wreck or the bus being late to pick them up should not be counted as late due to it not being um any fault of their own. I have a student that is that has it set in their head that they are going to have perfect attendance this year. So now if they've had fever, stay home. I know they're not going to want to listen to me, but um anyways, uh both of those instances that I had mentioned previously happened this year so
109far and it caused them to not get recognized for perfect attendance and they missed out on the reward that they were given. only when I brought it up to the school's attention, it was handled and she was recognized. Um, I would recommend that this be something that is fixed in the future if you want to keep the positive spirits up for those students that strive to make perfect attendance. This situation would have gone un unnoticed if it weren't for us catching it. So, please be mindful of the positivity and or of the possibility and fix it for the future. I did speak to Miss Painter and um we got the situation handled, but I think that this is something that can very easily be missed. Like I said, now her her absence, her being late,
110like I said, was due to an accident and the bus was over an hour late. So that was no fault of her own and therefore I believe that she still should have been able to participate in the reward that she was that all the children were given and she missed out on that unfortunately. Excuse me. Um uh for future reference I would like to remind you all that you all work for us. Now, I do appreciate the work that you do and the fact that you're here and all the years that you have been here and dedicated your time to the school and to the students. Um, I am no fan of this AI stuff whatsoever. Uh, we don't have to play keep up keeping up with the Joneses on this. I think it's dangerous
111for the children. Um, I'm a mother that my children don't have phones in their faces very much at all. I wait until later on in life to get them a device. My daughter's 11. She's probably the only one in sixth grade without a phone. She tells me it all the time. Why can't I have one? I'm the only one in sixth grade without one. I have noticed a difference waiting with my daughter Annabelle and uh my son got one early but that was situation out of my hands. Um but I have noticed that the two older children waiting a little bit longer. Actually they're not attached to their phones as much. We are all guilty of it myself for sure. But, um, I've noticed that like they're not running to that phone to check their
112messages and and and always on their phone. So, I think that's a positive thing to wait longer for these kids to have some kind of device in their hands. Um, real quick, I wanted to point out a couple positives. The first, as far as I can see, there's no resignations this month. Um, so that's a positive. I don't know if anyone else saw that, but um the Veterans Day ceremony was absolutely wonderful. The children and staff did an amazing job, and I would like to thank everyone involved and to especially thank Mr. Leisure for being the one to start this these programs off again and caring enough to make it happen. So, thank you, Mr. Leisure. Um, your speech at the ceremony was very nice and your recognition of the man who was 99 was
113wonderful. Um, and just the fact that nobody was doing anything for I'm not sure how many years. That's kind of disheartening. We live in the United States of America. We don't live in a Russia that are, you know, um, putting our veterans at the spotlight. we are in the United States and that's something that should not have happened. So I I did not know that until you said that that day and I greatly appreciate that because I come from a family of many veterans. Um my grandfather World War II um veteran. So greatly appreciate that. So thank you so much. Um Mr. Vandetta, Mr. Kern, I wish you the best. Happy birthday Betty and everyone have a happy Thanksgiving. Thank you, >> Chief. Mr. President, that concludes public comment. Thank you, Chief. >> I'm sorry.
114Items for discussion from the board. >> I have a couple. >> First, I want to say going into this journey of being on the board, you don't know what you're getting into, especially if you're new to it. I wasn't new to attending meetings. I wasn't new to staying late. I wasn't new to a lot of the drama that goes on with it, but I was new to behind the scenes and and how everybody worked together. And I just want to say that I'm thankful that I didn't put blinders on to see people for who they are and what they are. And I just want to say I've learned a lot from you, Mr. Kern, and I've learned a lot from you, Mr. Van. and I thank you for sharing your experiences and your expertise in
115different situations as we have worked together on this board and I think you'll be missed even if it's a little bit but I'll miss you a lot so thank you. >> Any other items for discussion? >> There was one more um on on the agenda um as you saw was the student handbook update um that I had requested. I first want to say thank you to our administration and to Dr. Oberg for addressing the situation um head on whenever it it arose. Um many parents, I don't know if it just went out to elementary students or if it went out to everybody, but there was an email that went out updating us about an updated um media release form that included the date of birth. And now parents can be more aware that that is
116happening. Um, and it gives them the option to opt out. Um, my question, maybe this is maybe this is for Mrs. Heaton Hall. Um, with regards to FURPA, what information is allowed to be shared without parental consent versus what information is allowed to be shared with parental consent? I know there's certain things that can be without parental consent. I guess I'm just not as versed on it as I'd like to be and I just want to make sure that I understand it completely. It sounds to me like the way that the the new form was created was if you wanted to opt out to submit it in I was going to say I have a copy of it as well. Um, but my only question is, do we need to is it okay the way
117that it is? Um, the notice that went out was asking parents if we wanted to update the form to submit a new one or to submit it in writing, but since this is adding the date of birth to it, does the school district have to have brand new ones that are granting permission for that date of birth to be up? Like, is it optional? Basically at this point do the old forms cover the changes? >> So Dr. and I had discussions about the issue and he talked over about what the for ultimately I did not review the final form. >> Okay. >> So I don't know that I can answer your question of a comparison. I think go ahead. No, I was going to say so what we took was the language from um and
118that actually will be used also put into information on each. >> Sure. >> Um under the family education rights act schools may identify certain types of information as information. This type of information is generally not considered harmful or naturally anything that we do but we every year and moving forward we're going to do it yearly >> right things. So that form sent out again right now we're only >> this information is also on our website. >> Yeah. >> That's awesome. That's that's I just want a clarification on that because I was misunderstanding or not understanding completely or something something just wasn't clicking for me. So I appreciate that. But um I do I do want to thank our administration and you Dr. Oberg, like I said, you guys, you address it as soon as there
119was a concern, it was being addressed. The student handbooks, just to clarify to the board and to the public, what I found when I was trying to find what directory information the district um was picking to be considered directory information because that's that's leniency fura allows is the district can say this is what we're going to consider to be um directory information. I couldn't find it for a regular ed student. It was only listed under our special education. And so I was very confused as to why that was happening and where is it going to be for specular education students? Why would it only be listed there? So I brought the concern and um Dr. Dr. over again. I talked about it and I explained to him what I would like to see, which would
120be a blurb added or even the same verbiage that's in there under special education but with the regular education or just a general this is what directory information is for McDuffy in the student handbook. So that when we're giving those out every year and parents are signing off on them, whether y'all read them or not, I don't know. I read them every single year and I sign it and I even read things off to both of my children, elementary and high school, to make sure they understand it as well. Um, but it was just for me it was more clarification for the public, for the community to understand what this is and why we're doing it. And so I just want to say thank you for working with me on that and for addressing this
121and thank you to the board for approving that >> for those updates. >> So is the director information listed or not? >> So currently it is only listed on our website under parent tab under forms and other other reasons and actually before you can even click on that parent formation right here. basically spells out what is it and then the ability to pop out. What we're going to do next is on each person handbooks I have that type of that exact type of information placed there as well so that parents looking at it can understand what is so it where it is listed at listed for each student but so whatever you say it it lays out there what directory information is. So the whatever it is you you have that memorized off the top
122of your head. You know what the directory information is? >> So it would be student last name but I actually have right here images video voice. Um it could include birthdays include participating in officially recognized activities and sports. It is a listing of weights and heights of members of athletic teams and also we often do this especially in high school here any kind of honors awards championships where students are involved that's pretty much what it is what information is not direct information is address number address what not is student ID number what is not the full And then of course never ever share academic respect. But that's not >> it's kind of the same thing that the newspaper puts out when they win a game and this guy was the big heroes what they put
123out. They don't put their address. They don't put but they do put their structure or their building their athletic training. >> That's kind of the same type of information for what he's saying. I like to call it HIPPA for students because it's basically HIPPA is your medical field stuff that I'm well versed on because of my what I do. But FURPA is like personal information that's protected for students essentially. So it's HIPPA for school is what I call it. It's just an easy way for me to understand it if you understand HIPPA. So >> thanks. So I don't there's not actually a directory. >> No no no no. It is just saying this is the information we can share publicly with your consent >> and the the media release form is what Dr. Ober is
124saying they're going to make sure they collect annually. So that was one of the things I was concerned about. You know the form used to say that this was valid for the lifetime of the students um career at McGuffy essentially. And I said, "Well, you ask for us to sign our lives away every single year." I think the district should have, you know, they should have to require this every year. My views have changed about technology very much in the last two, three years, more so for my kids than for myself. But I don't I myself even stopped sharing photos and videos and things like that of my kids online just because of it's dangerous, guys. Like, it's crazy how bad it's getting. So >> considering the things you shared even five years ago, they're
125still out there. >> Exact. That's what I mean. They you never get rid of them. Somebody has screenshot them. >> But I just want to be clear because I think that you just misspoke in a little bit. Um what the form says is that this is the directory information that that the district can share unless the parent signs it off against it. Correct. >> So not that is you just said um that we would use this as directory information if the parent agrees, but that's not the same thing. >> You're right. You're right. >> Make sure that it's clear. So, we're the form says this is the kind of information that is directory information. The district considers directory information that we will use as such unless the parent opts out. Is that correct? >> Opt
126out. Okay. >> So, I apologize. Go ahead. >> I just want to make sure that we are clear. >> No, I appreciate that. Thank you. >> Um, the other thing since we're on that subject also on the website, I'm on there right now, there is a military denial of information and I just learned that this week through Dr. Oberg that um a military recruiter or higher education institutions can request name, address, and phone number from students. So if parents are not aware of that and they don't want that information released, they need to sign the denial form. >> Right. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions? >> I don't think so. Any other items for discussion? I'm sorry. Right. >> I make a motion to advertise to accept um RFPs for a new solicitor. >>
127I second. >> So, we have a motion on the floor for RFPs for a new solicitor and we have a second. doesn't have to be. >> Yeah. >> So, >> didn't have to be on the agenda when we had another school board member who made a motion to bring one in. >> Past president. >> No, he didn't. Well, it's illegal now. It should have been illegal then, which means that whole process was illegal when the solicitor we had sitting at this table is in place. >> We have some minutes from the December. >> It ended up getting tabled, but it had >> Yeah, it was tabled and then we voted on it at the next meeting. >> Yeah, I Miss Saburn, I'm sorry. You said it was. So, let's just look at the minutes and
128see what it says cuz my mind goes back and forth. I can't remember. I thought it was originally asked for that, but I think at the time we said it had to go on the next meeting, >> right? Remember that's that's >> Can we put it on for every organization? It always was asked, are we going to retain that person and offer? >> Correct. >> So then I asked that it be put on the agenda for December. >> Okay. >> So your motion would be >> part of >> I thought so too. >> Hiring a solicitor is part of the reorganizational process. >> I think what Miss Jackson's asking for is to open up publicly RFPs. So, I mean that can be added to next month's agenda if you guys approve that >> tonight. >>
129Um, sure, but >> motion. >> Yeah. >> Well, the the original motion we can't do. >> Okay. >> So, you would need a new motion to add it to next month's agenda. >> I make a motion to add it to next month's agenda. Okay, Miss Shingle made a motion to add. >> I second. >> Okay, now discussion. I I'd like to wait. Can we see? Yes. Go ahead, >> Mr. No, I had to ask >> Yeah, >> you can you can talk about the scope of their position, >> but is it available for executive session discussions? Yes. >> Well, I would I was going to say I would say yes if there's specifics that you're you know that could lead to leaking information that is executive if that makes sense. We had a special meeting
130which is when it was asked to be on the next meeting. >> The second meeting I think was whenever it went through. Here I have the second. >> No, because if I remember correctly, we had to postpone the March meeting. There's not really two. March 20th doesn't have minutes because we postponed it because it's a solicitor situation. I believe >> I just remember it was like a couple days apart. I remember that. But I don't remember when when you mentioned two March dates. I figured that was it. It was a popcorn. Yeah, it was motioned >> May 13th and it looks like the May 15th meeting. >> Yeah. To add it on to May 15th. >> Right. >> So, we have a motion and a second to add it to next month. That is correct.
131Any further discussion? I'm going to ask for a roll call, Miss Cyber. So, we are voting yes to request RF or to add it to the agenda next meeting. >> To Yes. >> To add it to the agenda next meeting. not to request RFPs, but to add a motion >> to add to the agenda a motion >> for you guys that night to vote and you ladies that night to vote on if you want to open up an RP. >> All right, Mr. President. >> Yes. >> In the reorganizational meeting, we have to vote on a new solicitor. >> We do not have to. >> Yeah, we do. It's in the reorganizational process every year. organizational meeting. >> It's part of the pre-organizational meeting. >> But one of the thing that we found was that
132we technically don't have to have a solicitor either. Correct. >> Throughout the whole this whole process legally good idea. No. But legally >> meetings organization Yeah, we do. We appointed a solicitor. >> But appointing the solicitor and opening up RFPs could be two separate things. >> Two different things. >> Yeah. >> So, um, if there's no further discussion, let's go ahead and vote on if to add that to the agenda next meeting this cyber. >> Mr. Grove. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Jackson. >> Yes. >> Mr. Laser. >> No. >> Mr. Barnett. >> No. >> Missing? >> Yes. >> Mr. Thomas? >> Yes. >> Mr. >> M. Fry? >> No. >> M. >> Is it 44 right now? >> For my last vote. Thanks. >> I am going to say um yes for the simple fact
133let the new board decide. >> Yep. So yes, you're welcome. >> We need a motion to the meeting. >> Second. >> All those in favor say I. >> I. motion. >> Thank you. >> Can never remember where this turn off is. Sorry, take your hand.