McGuffey School Board Meeting July 17, 2025

001really something. Thank you, Chad. >> Wow, that was really delayed, wasn't it? [Laughter] call to order the committee meeting of the McGuffy School Board of Directors. And with that, I'll turn it over to Dr. Oberg. >> Thank you, Mr. President. Good evening to members of the board of directors, appreciate attendance, members of the family community here as well. I have three items for community agenda this evening. Uh before I do, I I do want to take a moment to recognize um the work of two groups. Very important work that's being done this summer. The first people I recognize, of course, is key. Uh his entire maintenance and custodial team. Um I've walked the halls mostly here at high school and I'm just amazed how quickly they have worked clean the floors, the the rooms. Uh

002it truly is a incredible effort. I think year they get better at what they do. So I wanted to make sure that we recognize uh this school we'll see here does not start off on a boot without the hard work that what they do behind the scenes. That's the first group I want to recognize. The second group is also behind the scenes. Certainly the work you're seeing throughout the course of the year and that will be administration. Not only are they tasked with getting the buildings ready and making sure that all the materials are there for the teachers when they return, but they're currently busy scheduling little places where they have to make a student work or a classroom work that uh is almost signed but not quite. I've often said Mr. B like playing

003a game of pseudo gota make sure all the numbers kind of fit there and not only are they doing that but it's also been quite active summer from a HR perspective and they take a lot of time we're very aggressive in mechanics we go after and we spend a lot of time with them so they're balancing a lot of different things so again I want to recognize both [Applause] So, speaking about round of applause, I'm actually going to take podium here for a unique honor. Long time a long time coming. Uh, we're looking at I think six years possibly. So, make sure that Okay. Very good. All right. So, as we know here at McGuffy during the school year, each month we have students of the month that are presented to us actually a nice

004video and um our teachers vote on a student or students of the month for each month. Now, clearly we're not in school. However, each month during the 2019 2020 school year, which as you remember was the COVID year, um we continued as a middle school to nominate students. In fact, during the uh month of March, there were 24 students nominated by 28 staff members in the middle school. So quite a number of students, quite a number of teachers nominating those students. From that group, there were two nominations that came forward. Now the problem was it happened right before we stopped having school. If you remember the that Friday the 13th >> and everything changed. So that was right before the next board meeting. So we had two students that were nominated, selected four students of

005the month back in March of 2020. They were Hayden Florian and Kayn Hughes. But again, unfortunately due to CO 19 and the cancellation of school, that did not happen tonight. I want to rectify that. Um is he not here? >> Oh, >> I can come back to it. I shall look to you for a wink and a nod. >> All right. Well, then this is Yeah, I want him to hear this. I mean, these guys appreciate it, but I want Hayden to hear it. So, all right. So, we the cat's out of the bag to be continued. >> To be continued. So, let me let me move on to >> the next item, which is policy two. So in your pack there you will see the board policy. Uh this is unique in that typically

006uh before a board meeting we would always have a policy meeting started about five months ago. We're unable to do that for this month of July. However uh the following policy which is student enrollment is very important very important to discuss here. And let me just grab my notes on that one. So, um, again, policy 200, it regards student enrollment. Um, I am proposing, uh, that we consider a change to this policy, and it's going to be aligned to our future ready comprehensive goals that are in our plan that was board approved um, based on the goal of retention and recruitment of highquality staff. uh a priority that from a cultural standpoint ensures that we have high-quality learning environments by having high-quality individuals in our schools and again as I said it's a definite focus

007for our school over the next three years and actually has been um I will start my discussion just quickly about starting with why. I'm a big why person understanding what our core values are and we know in Pennsylvania one of our biggest challenges and not just in the Commonwealth but of course across the country is the retention and even having certified teachers the last two school years PDE had more emergency certified individuals than they had certified teachers in Pennsylvania and we'll wait to see what the data holds for this coming year but if I was a duty man which I'm not um usually uh I would say we're probably facing the same thing. So, how do we go about in a very tight market recruiting and then of course retaining those staff that we already

008have with us. So, the concept behind my ask tonight is this. Um, we would like to allow for our fulltime employees who live outside of the district to enroll their their children tuitionfree um to again deepen that loyalty to increase retention attract also. So it's not just retention that we're focused on. You always have to focus on the leaky bucket because if you don't focus on that, you keep losing teachers and you're you're constantly having to replace them. So, it's a focus on the retention of existing staff, what we believe in, but also the recruitment of those future staff. And this would be one of those um things and again and especially in a hard to fill positions, we know how important that is. So, some key facts to consider when you're considering uh this

009policy. The first is that the district has 230 full-time staff. of that those that would be impacted is approximately 130 McGuffy full-time staff that live outside the do the the district with which this policy would apply to based on also based on the recent PD 363 which is the calculation of our tuition rates for special education and regular education. A uh annual tuition rate for a special education student is approximately at McGuffy $28,000 and a regular education students according to that rate is approximately $18,000. So let's talk about that. This policy change was not included in any specific line item in the last budget. So the budget that we're going to be going into the 2025 2026 school year it is true nothing from a budget line item perspective included this policy right so bringing

010on new students I want to make that very clear you know however and based on projected interest number of teachers that I've talked to or individuals that that I think would be interested in something like this realistically the number of employees that would be interested and the anticipated enrollment impact is minimal and can be absorbed under two things. The current staffing and of course the num numbers of students that we can have in each of our buildings is again if you're talking about say a handful of students across all 13 grades K through 12, you're not looking to have to increase uh your class uh you know the classroom itself and you would not need to hire additional teachers. So from a cost perspectives, um there's really not a cost perspective to that. Oh, it's

011not on. >> It's not on. >> We apologize. I'm also acting as tech director tonight. And apparently apparently the pause here. All right. I apologize. >> Okay. It's it's it's back on. It's back on. Thanks, Mike. Okay, >> Mike, was was the audio there or Okay, so the audio is still there. >> Okay. All right. Okay. So, going back to that. So, again, um just talking about that from the absorption of these additional students. It really should not be uh anything that would impact the budget itself. the increase in teachers or the increase in class sizing would be minimal if any at all. Um, so let me just kind of go back through the highlights of what you have there. The very last item of policy 200 is the section that we were asking to

012amend. So it's one section to itself. It applies only to full-time employees. It would cover their biological adopted stepchild or legal ward of that professional. no tuition charge for eligible students. Enrollment is space dependent because I always want to make this clear, not that I think this would even be an issue, but we want to have that language in there that um it would be based on first priorities given to district residents. Right? So, if there was an area where we couldn't because of uh not enough teachers, not enough space, combination of two, preference, priority always given to district residents in this policy. students must meet all academic and behavioral expectations. If the individual becomes no longer full-time, um that status then ends their tuition and that must be arranged within two weeks. So, they're

013given two weeks to either decide to pull the child out with them or continue with the tuition uh based on where they are in their school year. And then also to transportation, very important, transportation is not provided by the district. to be provided by parents and that's usually the model. Parents want to take them with them to school, drop them off and that's the model that you see there. So just in summary then again um the reason why we're doing this is it aligns with one of our four goals from the F FRCP that again was board approved that focuses on recruitment and retention. Um I think it has a minimal impact to our budget. I believe it promotes long-term uh retention. And uh finally, I think um from a a district our size that's

014constantly competing against some larger schools, I think this gives us an edge when it comes to that recruitment of potential um staff in the future. So with that, I'll take questions. >> I have a couple questions. >> Um enrollment is subject to space availability. Um what about service services availability if they're a student with special needs and we would have to the only way we can meet those needs is by servicing them out we don't really meet we don't really have the services availability does that take it into consideration as well >> yes no that would have to absolutely >> okay um and then um children of full-time student or full-time employees may only attend muppy school district buildings and may not enroll in programs outside of the physical buildings. I'm assuming that's like Arabic

015cyber. >> Yes. >> We're talking specifically about enrollment in our physical building. >> Yes. >> Just going to make sure that that was >> I mean is that is that again the language that we crafted was with Miss Hall >> um for for that section. We gave her ideas with Syra and I and then she crafted it in what the language you see there. >> And the term space availability includes services. Am I understanding that correctly? It doesn't need to be a a separate >> No, it would include services. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I do know that um if I may um Miss Hall did draft this and she said, you know, one concern of this would be, you know, she did her separation and they had to be placed out and that's a

016cost. But she said she could attempt to go back to the district for payments, but there's no guarantee. But if we're saying that enrollment is subject to that, then we could always deny them enrollment because we can't meet those needs and we would not be legally required to meet their needs because we're not their home district. That's >> right. By law. >> Thank you. >> So this is all our full-time employees. >> All full-time employees. >> So cafeteria, workers, maintenance, police, everybody. >> Everyone. We believe this should apply to everyone. I mean, everyone has a role. I say I say often times they say, "Well, I'm just a bus driver or I'm just a cafeteria worker." And in in this space when you're working with kids, there's no such thing as just. They all are

017valued and all are very important to holding on to. And >> do we have any idea the number that may be applying for this? >> I I do not. I I that would have to be something I'd have to survey. I I I do know of of two families that have interests. They've shared that with me. >> Thank you. >> So, this would be the first reading and then the second reading in a in August. >> So, typically that's what we do. Um however, um as we know with any policy that's already been approved, this is just a change to that. We could approve it tonight and that's actually going to be my ask is that it is approved uh this evening >> to give families the time. Well, right. If this was something that

018was approved tonight, I would immediately probably before I left here, send an email home because again, if we do this in August, >> um, it's really close. And even now, I may be really close, but honestly, >> that's the only reason I'm even asking for it because typically we would discuss this in policy, >> but we didn't have >> the two families that are interested. >> Sure. >> Could we discuss it at this special meeting that we're going to have within the next week? Could you do the survey in between? >> Sure. I mean, certainly I could. I I wouldn't recommend that again because it's really pushing up against start school year. >> Would just be 100% sure how could possibly impact the budget. >> My my feeling on this is that we're not really

019and again think about it this way. Even if it was, and this would be amazing, I think, because it would it would definitely be the reason why we're doing it. So, let's just say we had 10 students. 10 students over 13 grades. That's still minimal if anything uh going to impact your budget, the classroom, the teachers, those type of things. So, >> because it's not like you're creating new programs, you're not creating I mean, you're they're going to plop into the existing academic program. >> There's a lot. >> The only the catch that I would see is for special needs >> certainly. And again, we would not want to discriminate on one or the other. >> No. >> Um, so >> no, but I just that's why I was asking about the enrollment subject to

020space availability because that is it's costly. >> As as I've thought about this policy, I think the ones who are going to uh gravitate it more from a staff perspective of those that have little ones >> that want to have them, you know, be able to pick them up, drop them off. Um and and and I think in one of the cases that's fact who I'm speaking about. Um so but again I I would have to do something like that to have a truer number. It's my gut telling me that's not going to be a large number you know initially especially at this point. >> If I may there may be an option to sort of um you could modify it tonight um so that the language is as you're requesting. I I I hear

021a concern that you want it to say space availability which includes services >> only because >> to make it clear which I understand that >> I think it's one thing if we're bringing them in and the services that we have in house and we but it's a different thing if we're bringing them in and they're going to need services that we can't meet and we have a >> capability to meet >> we'd have to go outside of the district for that >> right and then I also think that you could always amend this in the future if it turns out to be cost prohibitive. Um, and I think that that would be something that the board would then have to discuss in the future, but I think you could try it, see the interest, and

022then, but there's always the ability to amend the policy in the future if it appears >> we can call a policy up anytime we want to, >> right? So, you know, for concern that maybe, you know, if there's an influx, you know, but I don't, I don't think that that's really what's driving this. >> I don't either. And to be clear, I just want to be perfectly clear. I'm not opposed. I've asked for this for probably six years. So I I'm I I'm in favor of this. I just want to make sure that we've crafted the language in a way that's going to work. And I I agree. So what I would suggest then is making if you if it does come to a vote tonight, making a motion to include that language and then

023the final policy language will reflect if the motion pass carries. I will say from the expense side expense side I think the cost would be minimal. We're we have the classes anyway. We have the teachers anyway. Um it can be beneficial on the revenue side however because our subsidies are based on our number of students enrolled. So that could increase our revenue a little bit. It would be for the future years because they look back a year on your enrollment. But it could be beneficial on the revenue side. I think the big benefit though really is going to be morale. It's it really is. It's going to be your community. It's going to be your your employees who feel more like even though they don't live in a community feel like they're going to take

024ownership kind of like in the community itself. I've always said I think that that's a better way to go. >> So, >> yeah, I would just have a question. is we have it. They have to start paying tuition within two weeks. Um my concern is I know you can never what happens if somebody passes away. Is that a little bit too short of a time frame or would we need to specify that or I just don't know. I >> I I mean so there's no language that speaks to that. Um, you know, clearly we we were looking at a time frame that again, you know, >> but the board could at that time take into account extenduating circumstances and make a decision outside of of that, correct? From a legal perspective. >> Yes. Yes. >>

025So my question is um I know the cost is minimal, but who is footing that bill? You mentioned grants. Where is the money coming that is covering that tuition? >> So, so um the reason why I brought up tuition because there is there's a formula that we use for both 363s for special education regular education. There's not I want to be very careful how I say this. It's not that there's not a cost, but based on the number of students, based on class sizes we already have, based on existing teachers and existing classrooms, there's not going to be a need to hire, for example, a new teacher. There's a cost associated to that. There's not going to be a need to create more space because that's really going to be taken care of. That's that's

026where I was going. I I I did want to be fair on two two points. One, not budgeted. Clearly, we know that was not budgeted. And two, there is a cost. I mean there there is a cost to it but it's not sure you want to help me with this I feel like yeah you can have 10 kids in the room or you can have four kids in the room you got the same teacher you have the same >> yes you already have the material you already that's what I was trying to >> get to >> yes >> so it's not like Monique I think you're thinking of it as a way of that's how much we pay per student but >> that's exactly that is the formula that the Department of Education uses based

027on our budget and the number of students of what it's costing us to educate per student >> average. >> So as our enrollment increases but our budget stays relatively the same, our per student cost would basically come down. >> Come down. >> Yes. Yeah. >> And there's not an actual out-of- pocket cost >> there. And the only other place that this comes up is if you have students who live outside of the district and want to attend our, for example, they live in, I don't know, whatever district that's local that doesn't have an FFA program and they want to attend our school because we do. They can do that, but they have to pay tuition, right? Um because you can't just go enroll in any public school you want. That's not the way the law

028works. >> Same if they want to go to another school and the other district pays. >> Correct. Right. >> Correct. there would be an agreement between the two school districts at that point. This is eliminating the need >> for an agreement between the two school districts. >> No, that school district is not paying anything. The parents aren't paying anything. We're just absorbing. >> Not really absorbing, but I I see the point now that it's not like >> it's not like we're paying $18,000 per regular ed student that we bring in. >> No. And I think any concerns when you talk about like class size is always the one that comes to mind, right? You know, like Mrs. Shingles was if you had 10 students and now you have 12, you know, well, what if you

029have, I don't know, 22 students and now you're going to have 28, right? That's the reason for the space availability language because then we could look at that and say we don't have the space for that. >> Who is determining the class sizes though at that point? How is that? Well, some ratio. >> Yeah. And some of it's depend depends on what level you're talking about too because at the high school level it depends on how many different >> there is a ratio that is determined from PD and it varies from K through two 3 through five. So it decreases and currently we're we're not at that threshold in any of ours. >> But ultimately this decision as far as enrollment subject to space availability availability or need would go to the superintendent. Correct. >>

030Correct. And again, if we found oursel in that situation where we were not able to, again, our students take first priority. That's, you know, definitely in there. That was something that directly >> Rebecca definitely wanted to make sure that was understood. Mhm. So, hypothetically, if all 130 employees wanted to bring their students here, that could result in if you if you recommended, we'll put it that way. All 130 of them said, "This is awesome. Let's do this because we have an awesome school." Um, you would be subject to saying no to some of them. potentially >> or even just more than what we can fit. How is it determined then after after our first priority is given to our district employees? How is it prioritized on what students would get to come versus what students

031wouldn't get to come? >> So, I'll be honest, I hypothetical not run only because I don't see that happening. >> I mean, I'll be, you know, >> you have another program you take out out of district students. >> So, we do. So, >> how does that work with your It would probably It should run the same. >> It It does. And so, um, and it really is. So, you're speaking of our FFA of OAC program. >> We've had this year alone, I want to say three students that we've tuitioned from other districts because this program their district doesn't allow for. >> Um, but we look at that class size first and then determine, you know, on the first come, first serve. >> So, it would be that would be what we would recommend would be

032first come, first serve. And it could be I live in the state of Indiana and we did have tuition there in Elizabeth and it was often times maybe one kid couldn't because of age >> right okay >> um >> in the same family you mean it would be strictly based on that student whatever >> it' be a great problem to have but >> I get it >> I will tell you I don't I don't >> that's not going to happen >> this could actually potentially help us >> financially Yeah, it'll increase our revenue definitely. >> So when when we have when we have enough students [Music] and the state comes back in a couple years and says you have this many students, you could raise your taxes up to this level. That's including our taxpayers

033and our district taxes being raised if the majority board decided to cover these decisions. Now, >> for the tax purposes, they don't look at enrollment at all. It's just basically >> what we can afford as a district based on the revenue we're receiving um to pay our bills. So, >> they don't look at student enrollment at all. >> People pay school taxes that don't have >> I understand. Right. Exactly. Um, and that was a concern of mine because if this affected that then they're paying for not only McGuffy kids. >> Sure. >> Okay. The subsidies as in when we >> basic educ basic education subsidies, special education subsidies, those are all formula based on our number of students enrolled >> and that's coming from the state. All of the reimbursements and things like that that

034we're getting >> and that's where the revenue increases come from. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay, any other questions? I see uh so I'm going to start over a little bit here. I see our our guest of honor has arrived. So I'm going to go back to the podium and give a go through most of it again. So not to embarrass you, Hayden. Um but I was just saying uh to the board and to those that were here uh an inservice was done an injustice maybe even um due to the fact that uh right before you were going to be announced um seventh grade seventh grade sounds great so this is back in 2020 uh right before the board meeting that would introduced you along again I'll give also credit to Kayn Hughes as the students

035of the month from the middle school Um, we went on lockdown with CO 19 and uh, an honor to you because this is something where we had 28 staff members, 28 teachers nominate 24 students. So, you were one of two from those 24. So, that's a big honor. Unfortunately, again, as we said, that that did not happen and we were made aware of that. So, tonight, uh, we're proudly u blaming this honor on you, uh, Mr. Forian. So this was what was written. Uh Dr. GR is not here tonight, but he actually pulled out what he had put in his script. So this is going back to Dr. Doctran 2020. So this is Dr. Gawkran's words for you. You ready? All right. Hayden received nominations from three different teachers. So I don't have who they

036were. Uh each of whom had glowing things to say about the type of students he was in their classrooms. In being nominated, it was noted that Hayden displayed leadership throughout the classroom and is always eager to help others. Seventh, this is seventh grade you helping others when asked for help. Hayden works hard and accepts nothing less than his very best effort in class. Additionally, Hayden was described as a kind and empathetic student who always offers a helping hand and goes above and beyond and always works. With that, I'd like to introduce student of the month for McGaffy 7th grade 2020. March of 2020, Mr. Hayden Florian. Come on up. So, we have a little little certificate for you here. >> Oh, wow. >> And >> Well, absolutely. And and you want to give us an

037update on where we are now? I know you're full. Go ahead. >> Sure. So, uh, after graduating, I started a co-op position, uh, earlier this senior year, and after graduating soon after, they offered me full-time. So, I'm working there right now. It's going very well. I like my co-workers, and I'm getting a lot of respect there. So, >> congratulations. Thank you. Thank you very [Applause] [Music] Hello everyone. I'm going to start again with just a recap of the 2425 budget. We've been trending pretty well on our revenue side. As you can see, we budgeted just under 35 million. All of these numbers as of as of June 30th, 2025. So, we were just a little over 37 million. So, so way over 100% of what we had predicted to receive in revenue. Now, what is

038contributing to that? Well, for one, we and I when I create the budget, I do tend to be conservative on the revenue side because it's a whatif game. We do um try to predict a 96.25% collection rate from our real estate taxpayers. Uh we have actually exceeded that 96.25% this year. So, that has increased our revenue on that side. Our delinquent tax revenue has increased significantly this year, but as you know, as people pay off their delinquent taxes, that may not be there for next year's budget, right? Our earnings on investments are about $150,000 more than we predicted. There's still talk about interest rates falling. So, still want to be a little bit mindful of that going into next year. our rental income was significantly higher and that was due mainly to a new lease

039with Range Resources and then our royalties that we're getting from Range Resources. Those fluctuate from month to month and hard to predict that but uh we're seeing an increase in that as well right now. And then our non-educational subsidies, these are actually our transportation subsidies. Some of that subsidy money that you see in this number is actually reconciliations from the prior year as well. So that comes in now. We have to tabulate it for now and calculate it for now, but it's to pay off things from the prior year. Our expenditure is also looking relatively well. We budgeted 35.9 million on the expenditure side. We were just under 33 and a half million at the end of June. So 93.1% of our budget, but we still do have a month and a half left really

040in this fiscal year because our teachers get paid over the summer hitting our 24 or yeah 2425 budget. So I wanted just to show you what our current and what I think our projected net position is going to be at the end of the 2425 school year. Our revenues right now are sitting at 37.2 million. Our expenditures right now are sitting at 33.5 million, which is a positive balance for us of 3.7 million. But I am still anticipating we are going to have to pay out $2.1 million through payroll taxes piecers and then we are still getting reconciliation bills for things like cyber charter schools and our transportation. Um so at the end I'm hopeful and cautiously hopeful that we will see a positive balance after 2425 of about 1.5 million and very cautious because

041you never know what could happen in the all right so how does that play into the 2526 budget? So, as you know, we had anticipated expenditures of just over 37 million and the final budget was put into the state. So, that part's done. Our revenue was projected at 35 and a half million. We were anticipating a deficit of 1.8 million. If we if everything plays out, again, cautiously hopeful, and we do have that carryover of 1 and a.5 million, that sets us up in a very, very different place and a much better place that we may only be looking at a deficit of around 185,000. However, I already know the federal title monies are on hold. Some of them, not all of them, but our title two and our title 4 right now is on

042hold from the federal government. That's $75,000 to us. I also already know that through a coal assessment, we are losing almost $400,000 in tax revenue. So, that's going to hit us, too. So at the end of 24 June 30th of 2024, you can see our non-spendable assigned and unassigned. This is nothing new to you. This is what we've been talking about through this budget season for a total fund balance of 5.2. Now, on paper, because of what I put into the state as our expend expenditures and our revenues, I'm thinking now we may come out with a little bit better position with our unassigned not going down to only 500,000, but maybe still be around $2 million. So that would put us not in a great place still going into the 2627 school year, but

043in a much better place having a little bit of savings there in case of those emergencies. And we do already know from Mr. McKe talking. We need to do some repaving in the parking lots. You've seen it. We need to update our security systems. You've heard that before. So, um, having that little bit of cushion will help us and better position us. >> And this is still all very >> And this is all still >> because we won't know the final numbers until fall, >> right? We won't know the final numbers until the end of August will be our last pay for the 2425 school year. So, starting in September is when we'll really start to pull all of our files and the auditors will start taking a look and let us know where we

044fell. And you will know that too by the September board meeting of of where everything played out. So cautious cautiously optimistic. >> Any questions? >> Um auditors we who are we using the same. >> Yeah. Yes. Zelovski. Yes. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Yes. So, that one is correct as of June 2024. And then what I'm predicting at the end of June 2026 because I won't know until we look at 2425 stuff where we ended up at June of 25. Yeah. [Laughter] >> Mr. >> Thank you, Dr. Over. That will conclude committee at 6:42 p.m. We will reconvene for the regular school board meeting at 6:50 p.m. It is now 6:54. Call to order the McGuffy School Board of Directors meeting. Roll call, please. >> Here >> present. >> Thomas >> here. >>

045Thank you, Miss Silver. Uh, now we'll turn it over to our vice president, Mr. Thomas. >> Our opening prayer this month is going to be had by Pastor Linda from the East Buffalo Presbyterian Church. It is good to be here. Um, having three grandchildren. We can take three of them and uh, in a few short years having their children now. So, I have great fond memories. I love they went to Joe Walker. I loved it every time I got to go there and be there. It was such a gift. So, I just wanted to share that with you. Will you pray with me? Oh God of goodness and light, of mercy and hope. God, how much we need your hope as a school board, as a county, as a state, as a nation, as your

046world. We need the hope you offer. God, we come now to this place having been about many task of the day. But God, draw us now together to this path where you have called us to this Awesome responsibility of procedure and policy to mold our children. So we pray now God knowing that you do not make us of one mind and one thought that as we come together that we be respectful of others thoughts and feelings. And we pray now that your spirit that it might come and be here within all of those folks that are here blessing them for their time, for their efforts, for what they give back to this community. We offer this prayer in the name of our risen Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen. >> Amen. >> Thank you so

047much. >> You're welcome. Would everybody please stand for the pledgece [Music] to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. I want to make an announcement that we held an executive session today at 5:00 pm to discuss personnel. At this time, we will take public comment on agenda items. Chief Mr. President, we have one Vicky Jordan. Thank you, Chief. >> Hello, everyone. Hello. So, I'm here today to ask some questions about policy 200. I want to thank you Dr. Ober for answering some of those questions in advance, but I still have a few more. So again, I just want to remind you all I'm here just to give you a different perspective, something for you to think about.

048So my first question is I want you all to remember not too long ago, Dr. over. I'm not picking on you, but you were willing to increase the class size of our first grade students in Claysville Elementary to a to accommodate a teacher moving to the fifth grade at Joe Walker. None of us were happy about it and the board made a decision for the class sizes to remain the same and for a new teacher to be hired to fill that position in Joe Walker. So my question now is with this proposal and pure speculation on how many students will be coming in because without a survey none of you really know of these 230 or 130 outside district employees how many students would actually come. My question becomes, what stops you from raising these

049class sizes again to a number we as a community aren't comfortable with regardless of what PD recommendations might be. So, I would like to see something in the verbiage that maybe states before class sizes are increased that the board has to approve it only to keep a rain in on what you may feel is appropriate versus the community and the board may feel appropriate because we've seen it happen once. So, the potential is there to see it happen again. I will say this and I I really I know for a fact that this has been under discussion with Joe Walker teachers for months. It came to me I went to certain board members and I expressed my concerns not knowing the full details. So, I'm curious why this wasn't brought forward sooner because it almost

050feels like waiting till this last minute to present it doesn't give the board or the community a full opportunity to absorb the information. So for instance, if I say I want my student who's in who's in Joe Walk or who's in Clayville Elementary to go to Joe Walker because the scores are higher there and the class sizes are smaller. I'm told no because of the district lines, but now we're going to allow nondist students to come in and fill spots within Joe Walker. So basically, you're giving a benefit to students outside of the district that the taxpayers within the district don't get. I'm curious about um is there a potential that there's going to be bias towards these students um as their parents are now employees of the district. I wonder if um if there's

051truly going to be a cap. Is there a potential for uh children enrolled to be students of their own parents? Um is there a consideration maybe for how many years they have to be an employee of the district before they earn this as a benefit? I will say I was glad you removed it as anouou last month and presented it as policy this month because policy is much easier to change. We all know once it becomes part of the contract we're kind of stuck with it. At least with policy in a year if you're looking at this and you don't like what it looks like you can withdraw this policy. Am I correct on that miss solicitor? Yes. >> So, I mean, I'm not I don't think it's a terrible idea. I'm just looking at

052it from the outside looking in, and it it almost feels like, okay, these select parents are going to have school choice, but none of the rest of us have the opportunity of school choice. They get to pick where their students are going to go. We don't have that option. So, it just It's just an outside perspective, as I said. Um, I know there was a time I wanted my grandson at Joe Walker, but I wasn't allowed that. But I know these p these teachers who want their students from outside the district and Joe Walker, that's exactly where they're going to go. So, it's a little bit of a bad taste for a lack of better words. So, again, you answered a lot of the questions, which I appreciate because I was looking at this as

053an expense to the taxpayers that we were going to be now paying for students. I looked at it as you were giving away bargaining power for future negotiations with contracts. um all of which I'm clearly against. So I I do thank you for answering those questions, but again I just want you to realize that being a taxpayer and having a student in the district and having certain requests that I can't I'm not allowed to be included in is a little bit of a hard pill to swallow. So, I will save the whole $2 million increase in tax increases because that clearly isn't going to be effective. But again, I would like to see some kind of something in the verbiage that states before you or anyone is allowed to increase those class sizes that the

054poor have some input just based on what happened with the first grade student. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Jordan. Chief, Mr. President, that concludes all public agenda. >> Thank you, Chief. >> I need a motion to approve the minutes of the June 19th, 2025 school board meeting as submitted. >> So move. >> Second. >> Discussion. All in favor say I. >> Opposed. Anybody abstain? Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the general fund schedule of bills from June 19th, 2025 to July 17, 2025. Check numbers to check number in the amount of 798,4495 as submitted. >> Second discussion all those in favor say I. I. >> Anyone opposed? Anyone abstain? Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the food service schedules bills dated July 17th, 2025, check number 7803

055through check number 7805 in the amount of $22,51.94 as submitted. >> So move. >> Second. >> Any discussion? All those in favor say I. >> Anyone oppose? Stain. Motion carries. Do you have a motion to approve the treasurer's report for the month of June 2025 as submitted? >> So move. >> Second. Discussion. All those in favor say I. >> Opposed. >> Anybody abstain? Motion carries. I >> need a motion to hire J. Adams for the utility position subject to assignment and pursuant to the terms of the collective bargaining agreement and pending receipt of all required clearances, medical exams and act 168 verification. >> So move second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. Anyone oppose? Abstain. Motion carries. Please not. Need a motion to accept with regrets a letter of resignation for

056employee number 2438 effect of June 25th, 2025 and authorize the administration to post and advertise if necessary for the position. >> And then second >> discussion. Yeah. Yes. I think I might add this to last meeting, but >> somebody asked me about these numbers instead of names. Is the public when they get online able to see what we see under the administration content? >> Not when they get online. >> Not online, but >> paper copies. They can't. >> And is there a reason we have to use numbers instead of names? We've always used names up until >> I would ask council, do we have to use numbers instead of names? Well, I would assume it was previous council, but um we we do recommend that um it's generally especially in times of um when the

057>> when it's more of a termination issue, it's more because there could be um reasons that we don't want to. >> We always do that in those particular cases, but just new hires. I was wondering because our own employees within the district have no idea who these people are that new hire or these are resation. >> I understand that but the people within our district does not have any idea who they are that's resigning. What positions is being resigned? That was just a question that was brought to me. >> It is. Does it become part of the public record after we vote? >> Yes. their names >> or is it still a number >> like in the minutes >> on the termination always been >> numbers >> I just I think that we've got it's

058kind of >> for lack of a better term we've presented it in two ways because we're saying that it's better to have them the resignations not new hires but the resignations done by a number rather than a name and yet the papers we hand out when they attend the meetings have the administrative content with those names. So to me it's like speaking out of both sides of our face. Either it is important enough that that information is never released to the public as to the names behind those employee numbers or it's not. I I don't think you should have it both ways. when we could go back to what it was until recently where in termination perspective perhaps >> and I this was in fact due as we all are aware we do not have

059this for the longest time but um within the winter months we did have terminations and so uh upon the recommendation of council at that point was to make it so that that was not something that was aired out >> I don't recall a termination I recall a resation >> resation is like So I would I would just say that there are times where it may be a resignation that is termed that for the employee for their future but it is actually an exit strategy. Um and in those cases you would want to keep it as the employee number. Um, and it's probably the recommendation I would say was probably just so all of the employees leaving are treated as you're not. So that the terminations are not really a spotlight on them. >> Um, now

060I did not realize. So you're saying that over there on that table it actually has the name >> it has agree. >> Yeah, I would agree with that. looking if you're if the public is looking at it online, they don't have the admin they don't have access to the administrative content. >> But when they walk in this room, >> and again, let me speak to that too. That is something that we've done in the past. We just did not change, right? >> It would actually have to be placed in there as executives so that only the board members, myself, Charlene and and Laura would see. So, we can do that certainly. >> Yeah, I would I would I would recommend doing it. So that the agenda that is handed out, the paper copy is the

061same as what they would see online. Correct. Correct. >> So could I make a suggestion then when we're accepting resignations um or even with termination, could we at least put the employees position >> so that the >> I would not recommend doing it for the termination >> because then that that can be very identifying. M >> um when we discussed last month, Miss Hall mentioned the possibility of maybe during their exit interview asking them if it would be okay if their name was listed under their resignation. And that certainly would be a possibility. And I think generally someone leaving for a more benign reason like they want to stay home with their family or they just took a different job for whatever reason that's certainly very different than someone being maybe fired for cause or

062and it's a negotiated out termination under their contract. So I would suggest using the employee number and then I I I like that suggestion of asking them. Um, I mean I would also suggest that probably people probably already know who h what half of this is. You know, this is not not a large in any community in any school they're going to know who's resigned because probably the employee has told half the people that they work with. Um, but I would not include the administration content on the paper copies here. That kind of defeats the purpose. So is that with the exit interviews and that being a suggestion, is that something the board has authority to direct the ask when they with the exit interviews or is that something that administration would decide to administration

063would decide it and then would bring it to the board and let you know. >> Thank you. >> Any further discussion? >> Yeah. Yes. I'm just trying to find out a way that our all of our current employees can have an understanding of what positions are open are going to be open. uh it doesn't have to go to the entire community or anything but some way so that our current employees know what positions are open because they may be teaching beside somebody and they will don't know that that they're not going to be teaching beside that person again. I mean if my my main reason is for internal use only but I asked it about the agenda but the main thing is internal. Are you asking that the employees be notified ahead of time of

064who is resigning and what position they hold? >> No, I'm asking that the employees be notified of any positions that are currently going to be opened. >> We do. >> Yeah. >> And how do we do that? Um, so I I'll speak to unless you want to be open to respond and apply for that job or any job that might come afterwards there so that if they know like Mr. pleasing and I wanted to move there. Then I take I have to take whatever may follow whatever job >> and we've done that all along >> always >> back to when I taught here >> 30 years ago. >> I was able to balance my discussion for executive session. Any further discussion? I didn't cut you off today, Mr. Um, all those in favor say I.

065>> I. >> Opposed, abstain. Motion carries. I need a motion to accept with regret the letter of resignation for employee number 1698 effective June 25th, 2025, and authorize the administration to post an advertise if necessary for the position. So move >> second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. >> Stayain. Motion carries. Need a motion to accept with regret the letter of resignation for employee number 2518 effective July 2nd, 2025 and authorize the administration to post and advertise if necessary for the position. >> Second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Stain. Most. Motion carries. Need a motion to accept with regret the letter of resignation for employee number 2161 effect of no more than 60 days from June 20th, 2025 and authorize the administration

066to post an advertise if necessary for the position. >> So move second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carries. Need a motion to accept with regret the letter of resignation for employee number 1791 effective July 3rd, 2025 and authorize the administration to post an advertisement if necessary for the position. >> So move second. >> Any discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Motion carries. Need a motion to accept with regret the letter of resignation for employee number 2171 effective July 1st, 2025 and authorize the administration to post an advertise if necessary for the position. >> Second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Abstain. Motion carries. Mute a motion to accept with regret the letter of resignation for employee

067number 2293 effective July 8th, 2025 and authorize the administration to post an advertise if necessary for that position. >> Second >> discussion. >> I just want to say to all of the resignation, thank you for your time here at McGuffy. >> All those in favor say I. I. >> Opposed? Motion carries. Need a motion to hire Elizabeth Krauss as a second grade teacher at bachelor's step one pro-rated if necessary subject to assignment current assignment Clayville Elementary and per the terms and conditions of the current McGuffy Education Association agreement and pending receipt of all required clearances medical exams and act 168 verification moved >> second. >> Any discussion? >> All those in favor say I. >> I opposed abstain. Welcome to McGafi. [Applause] >> All right. Good evening, Dr. Ober, Mr. Karns, Mr. Thomas, members of

068the board, esteemed colleagues, students, and guests. It is my pleasure to introduce Playville's new second grade teacher, Miss Elizabeth Krauss. Lizzie is a 2020 graduate of Muppy High School. She graduated Simon Laauo from California University of Pennsylvania in 2024 with a degree in early childhood education. Last year, she began her teaching career as a kindergarten teacher at West Green. And while she had a wonderful experience there, she wanted to come home to the Duckies. She loves this district, our students, and the community. And we are so happy the team has chosen to teach here. Lindsay is here tonight to say a good word. [Applause] >> Hello everyone. I'm >> I wanted to thank all of you for giving me this opportunity to not only teach here but to come home. I also want to thank

069Mr. B for everything that she's done for me so far. And I wanted to say that I'm honored to be a part of not just McGuffy School District, but the legacy that McGuffy School District has that was built by great educators, administrators, anyone that have heart in the school. It built me. It helped shape me into who I am today. But it's also a legacy that I'm going to carry on as a third generation educator here. My mom is a teacher at Clayville and my grandfather, her father was a teacher in the middle school. So, it's really cool getting to be a third generation educator here. But I also am excited to be a part of the amazing student in the staff as well. But my friend once said that I would always come home

070because once you're a Highlander, you're always a Highlander. [Applause] I need a motion to hire Angie Witovich as a fifth grade teacher at master step 9 pro-rated if necessary subject to assignment current assignment Joe Walker Elementary and per the terms and conditions of the current McGuffy Education Association agreement and pending receipt of all required clearances medical exams and act 168 verifications. So move >> second Any discussion? All those in favor say I. Opposed. Welcome to McGuffy and Miss Augustine. [Applause] I know she's listening in. So, congratulations, Angie. We're excited. She has taught in Virginia for 13 years. She comes with us with lots of experience. She was an open educator award, which is a very prestigious award. So, we are excited to welcome her to the [Applause] need. Motion to hire Miatic Kogar as an

071elementary computer teacher at master step 4 prrated if necessary subject to assignment current assignment CL Joe Walker elementary schools and per the terms and conditions of the current McGuffy Education Association agreement and pending receipt of all required clearances medical exams and act 168 verification move >> second. >> Any discussion? All those in favor say I. I. >> Opposed abstain. Motion carries. Again, welcome to McGuffy. [Applause] I hope she's enjoying. She comes back from Williamsburg with her young family. She's excited. She's up in the area. She also taught from Virginia for 10 years and came back home with family. So, we are also excited to have her here on behalf of Joe Walker and Claystone. [Applause] I need a motion to hire Connor Hassan as a technology education teacher at bachelor step one prrated if necessary

072subject to assignment current assignment middle school high school and per the terms and conditions of the current McGuffy Education Association agreement and pending receipt of all required clearances medical exams and act 168 verifications. So moved >> second. >> Any discussion? All those in favor say I. I >> opposed. Abstain. Motion carries. Welcome to McGuffy, Mr. Bonus. [Applause] Thank you. Uh tonight, um it's a welcome. It's a pleasure. Have a little bit of the changing of the guard at the high school. Um Mr. Douglas is going on to a new opportunity and we had three retirements as you know. Um and a great shout out to Mrs. Deaterio, Mr. McBth, Mrs. Ross for all other years of service, 30 plus years of service at the high school um to the school district. So now it's time

073to retool and we've been fortunate enough to come upon some great candidates. Our first uh candidate tonight for hire is Connor Hass. He comes to us from Penn West University. Um he lives in Washington. He's uh finished his uh fresh student teaching this past May. So May to July is a pretty good tight timeline. He did his student teaching at Cand McMillan High School and um we're very excited about the things that he's going to bring to us in the area of tech for the middle school high school. Connor, [Applause] >> I just want to say thank you all for being here and for serving the community. Although I'm not from the area, I went to Trinity, as you said, I spent a lot of time in McGuffy School District. Um, one of my friends

074right down the road from here, the easiest way I explain it is it's one song from McGuffy at his house. He lets me keep a project vehicle there. We have a 1920 Model T that we've been like fixing up. So, I spend a lot of time in the area. I also work with an individual out in the West Alexander area. So, it's another community that I spend a lot of time in. But, I couldn't have got here without my mom and dad, my family. I believe I'm a fourth generation educator. So, um I have a feeling that one of my kids will be the fifth. So, we're just glad to be here. Welcome. [Applause] >> Need a motion to hire Caroline Nul as a school counselor at master step one prrated if necessary subject to

075assignment current assignment McGuffy High School and per the terms and conditions of the current McGuffy Education Association agreement and pending receipt of all required clearances medical exams and act 168 verification. >> So move second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Abstain. Motion carries. Welcome to McGuffy, Mr. Bonus. [Applause] >> Our second member of the summer of 2025 hiring is Miss Carolyn Nol who comes to us um with a bachelor's from Dukane University and a master's in school counseling from California and West University. I'm sorry. So yeah, she completed her school counseling practicum at South FET um school district and Upper St. Clair School District and we're just very excited. Uh guidance is a very crucial part of what we do and we're hoping that Carolyn joins us and u

076and has a great experience here and a great career at McGuffy. Carolyn. [Applause] >> Hi everybody. Um I'm Caroline Mol. I just wanted to say thank you so much for being here. Um, I'm a little nervous. I've never spoke before the school board before, but I love working with students. Um, I've known since I was in school that I wanted to be a school counselor, so I'm really excited for this opportunity. Um, getting to work with parents and families and students and admin. I'm super excited. So, thank you so much. [Applause] >> And you did for your first time to hire Willing as physics teacher. >> Let's start over. I need a motion to hire Christine Welling as a physics teacher at master step five pro-rated if necessary subject to assignment current assignment McGuffy High

077School and per the terms and conditions of the current McGuffy Education Association agreement and pending receipt of all required clearances, medical exams and act 168 verifications. So move second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. Opposed abstain. Motion carries. Welcome to McGuffy. Mr. Bonus again. Christine, you want to join me? Um, their third member of the summer of 2025 uh, hirings. Here is another 2008 McGuffy High School graduate, which is Christine Welling. So, it's always great. along with Miss Leisure who I recall from not too many years ago or Miss Krauss from not too many years ago. I'm sorry. Uh but I appreciate uh the fact here that she's willing to come here and make McGuffy home. Um she has been teaching for the last four years at Bentworth High School physics.

078Um and physics is not an easy position to fill. She is a godsend um to our school district. So, we're very thankful she has a masterers in arts of teaching um from Penn West. Um a master of science and engineering from the University of Northern Arizona and a bachelor of science in physics from Dickinson College in Carlile, PA. So, um we're excited um to continue to have that great science background for all of our teachers and welcome her back home, Miss Christine Welling. Good evening. Uh, thank you for the opportunity to, like Lie said, come back home. I'm I'm really looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to being back home and doing physics and and doing a lot more physics. So, I'm excited. Thank you. [Applause] Need a motion to hire Benjamin Gil as

079an English teacher at doctorate step four prrated if necessary subject to assignment current assignment McGuffy High School and per the terms and conditions of the current McGuffy Education Association agreement and pending receipt of all required clearances medical exams and act 168 verifications. So move second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Abstain. >> Motion carries. Welcome to McGuffy, Mr. Bonus. [Applause] Our last member of our hiring of the summer of 2025 is Mr. Ben Gil who comes to us with a master of science in teaching from Drexel University. Um, Mr. uh, Gil also has a doctor of jurist prudence, a JD from West Virginia University School of Law. Uh, he also has a bachelor's in arts and English from Washington and Jefferson College. He's been teaching um, for the past

080two years at Propel and previously taught at intermediate unit one schools. So, um, once again, um, our turnover in the English department with losing two teachers, we are very excited about the skill set he's going to bring for all of our students. So, Mr. Gil, >> good evening. Thank you so much. Uh, I appreciate the opportunity and I'm very excited to become part of the McGuffy family. >> Welcome. >> Thank you. I need a motion to hire the following list of 2025 fall sports assistant coaches per the terms and conditions of the agreement between McGuffy Board of Directors and McGuffy Education Association pending receipt of all required clearances and act 168 verifications. In the event of a partial season, salaries will be prrated. So move >> second >> discussion. >> All those in favor say

081I. I >> opposed. Abstain. >> I have to abstain. >> Okay. One abstain. >> I should abstain just on the one. Say that. Okay. I abain on >> this. All volunteers. Volunteer. >> My father-in-law. >> All right. Uh motion carries. 80 or 701. >> Oh yeah, we did. >> Yep. 701. >> I need a motion to approve the 2526 high school marching band staff as listed below pending receipt of all required clearances in act 168 in the event of a partial season salaries will be prrated. So move >> second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I opposed abstain. Motion carries. Need a motion to hire Jeffrey Franks as an accounting specialist as per the terms and conditions of the accounting specialist employment agreement pending receipt of all required clearances act 168 and

082medical exams >> move second >> discussion all those in favor say I >> opposed abstain motion carries a motion to approve the vein Keith Humber as a driver for the first student for the 2425 school year pending receipt of all required clearances as presented. Should that be 25 26 >> 24? >> Okay, gotcha. All right. So move >> second >> discussion. >> What is what does that mean? >> Extended school year this summer. >> Okay. >> Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I >> opposed abstain. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve Jody Bonus and Paty Capo as drivers for GGNC for the 2425 school year pending receipt of all required clearances as presented. So move >> second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Um where do

083I leave off? >> No. Anybody say no? I'm saying motion carries. Wow, I started reading the next one. I need a motion to approve as presented to McGuffy School District 2526 client renewal with Lincoln Learning. >> So move second >> discussion. Yes. Um, >> that's right. >> In in the ring attachment, it has a check mark next to the Lincoln empowered core solution with video AI tutor powered by cross gym. Um, does McGuffy have any oversight in that AI program? >> Not with that particular online course. No. Is that an is that an add-on to this as it's a checkbox? Is that something we had to select to? >> Right. We have we have the very basic asynchronous courses and that would be for your French courses um and also for our cyber programs. We

084do not have anything additional from that. And the only the only place I think that would uh come into play is there is an online credit recovery component part of this but again for that the student pays for that credit recovery. We do offer that through them. >> So the AI only comes is only used when the student is I guess I'm confused on what you mean by that. >> No, I my understanding is that's not something that we've purchased. I know I know I know it's there as an option but it's not an option that we use currently with our cyber program >> but checking this box we would >> I guess >> no I I I I think and again I don't have it from you. I'm sorry, I had the paper copy

085here, but that's not something that we're we're it's just they have options and that's not an option that we currently use. So, I would like to I mean, can we can we amend the motion that we have because I would rather not have an AI system that we don't have oversight of at this current time. I think it's a great option maybe for the future, but until we see how AI affects our students within our district, I would rather allow time for this to play out and maybe even we get stacks on how AI is affecting our students. Um, can we can we accept this without that box being checked and not use that? until further notice until next year or whenever this comes up again >> 2526 it would be next year. >> So

086um if that is the recognition of the board we can certainly make sure that's not part of the package. >> So would we or would I just motion to amend this to >> I think they're just going to remove that option. But yes, you would because the motion is out there to approve it as is, you would want to make a motion to amend >> the motion >> as it's purple. Um to remove what you are asking them to remove and then the board will first >> vote on whether or not they agree with you >> in your proposed motion and then they can that can be incorporated if it's passed into this. >> Okay. motion if that makes sense. >> It does. >> Okay. So, I motion to amend this motion um to approve

087the McGuffy School District 2526 client renewal with Lincoln Learning except for or to exclude I don't know how we should word that the Lincoln empowered course solution with video AI tutor powered by profit of it. Second. >> Where were you? Look at that. >> Yeah. Discussion. >> Wait, I thought there wasn't discussion on motion on a motion to amend. >> Oh, I'm sorry. No, you're right. I apologize. Sorry. >> We have a vote on the amended motion. Yes. Okay. >> Um, roll call vote, Miss. So, what we're voting on is Miss Fry's motion. I I'll just basically paraphrase to uncheck the box of the AI tutor. >> Correct, Mr. Ry? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Is it by tools of order or our policy that we can't have a discussion on this? >> It's just

088to amend. It's not We're not voting on it. We're just a >> No, no. He's asking about the the order. Why we don't My understanding is that it's we do say that we will use Robert's rules as a guideline and that is parliamentary procedure. You don't discuss, you don't hold discussion on an amendment to a motion. >> The answer would come out of that discussion board would help me to determine if I want to vote yes or no. >> You still get to discuss it when we vote on the final. So, this is only to amend. >> So, if it if it gets approved to amend, then we'll have discussion. I think Mr. Thomas is what is I I think I know what you're saying though is >> you don't know if you want that

089on check because you need more information on the AI now >> correct >> the way to handle that in the future would be to hold off making the amendment to the motion until after we've had discussions completely and then once we think we're ready to move on the person makes the motion to amend and then you hold the vote on the amend on the amendment >> just so that Miss, roll call. Uh, you're going to vote either yes to amend and remove the check mark on the AI tutor or you're going to vote no to leave the check mark on basically and leave the motion as is. >> The original motion as is. Sorry. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> M. >> No. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Jingle. >> No. >> Mr. Yes.

090get to the discussion. >> I'm going to vote no >> because I don't have enough information on it. >> I have a question about that then. If Chad disagrees with after our discussion, could he motion to amend it back? >> Yes, he can. >> Okay. I was just curious on how >> Yes. >> Right. I was just curious how if you wanted to reverse that if you had that option. That's all. >> Okay. So now I need a motion. How was I word this? As presented the renewal of the Lincoln learning but under the now unchecked mark box of the the AI tutor. >> Correct. Yep. So I need a motion and then a second. Then we can discuss. So >> move second. >> Now Mr. Thomas, would you like to discuss? Yeah. >> Okay.

091>> So, notice the answer was the one that suggested this curriculum. >> So, we use we've used Lincoln uh for probably going on at least seven eight years. It's prior to me being here and it's and it's a curriculum that we use uh with our cyber program. It's one that we use when again we only offer as a language Spanish currently. So for students primarily, we've never really had anything outside of French, but that would be an offering that we have. And then again, as you see in there, but that's a cost to students. Students that need credit recovery, we offer that as an option for students who want to take credit recovery online. They pay for it, but we offer it throughout a rate. >> So the AI aspect, is that something that's brand

092new this year? >> It Yes, it appears to be. Yes. >> So is that Dr. doctrine then you know whenever he did that curriculum review he saw it in there and is in advising that it be a part of it. >> I I I believe so because Dr. Cochran oversees it. I although I've looked at it before myself and that's why we I did not realize until I just saw that we had checked that box. Um and again I think we were just checking off and I I should have done more due diligence because I know one of the things we're looking at from from an administrative standpoint is a new policy that would be AI driven policy 815. you want to get to the committee. So, >> how does that tie into the AI

093here? >> Well, again, any any tools that you're seeing even when you even I'll give it to you. It's very basic because you can't stop AI completely. A student does a Google search, first thing they're showing them is AI generated. [Music] >> It is one of those things. But the way this tool, if I understand correctly, works is they actually have someone that can provide them as a tutor. they can ask the AI generated bot a question, it will pull from educational resources and it'll provide it to them. So that's and that's how a lot of educational companies and we've looked at several without looking at any deeper without probably speaking beyond my knowledge of it. That's what I'm assuming this is providing to them. As far as rememberers too, our kids that take any

094of these courses, whether it be McSabber, the French course, or even credit recovery, are taking it as an asynchronous course, meaning they're taking it at their place, their space, and there's not any kind of teacher directed. It's like onetoone. This is the closest that schools are coming to that provide all education to that would be something like this. This way, you could get an answer potentially from education, in this case, an AI block. Um, is there a deadline to renew this M? What what I'm getting at is is it possible perhaps if we tabled this for Dr. Gratan to come in in August and give us more information on the AI aspect. Is that possible or is that too late? >> No, I mean I mean from from uh our student use standpoint, we're still

095ahead of when school starts. So we're we're fine. >> Yeah. >> That's the concern. Can I ask a question? >> Sure, absolutely. You can ask, we are entrusting Lincoln learning educators. When we when we have students that sign up with them, we're entrusting that student to those educators and they are saying that the their their um teachers are running that. So, we're saying now we we trust them for that, but not for this. I I think >> it sounds awkward. >> Well, I think just to for um transparency purposes and Mr. Fry, correct me if I'm wrong, please. Um I think what what we're just saying, Miss Shingle, is that um we just or Miss Fry would just like more information on the AI part of it. Doc Dr. Oberg may not know um correct

096because Dr. Gotran handled this. So maybe for us to do our due diligence for everybody involved, just have Dr. Gotran speak upon it and then We can decide if we want to keep it or not. >> Yeah. >> So, I would need a motion. >> Motion to table. >> Second. >> All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. One. One opposed. Motion carries. 71. [Music] Need a motion to approve the list of courses at the community college of Alageney County as dual enrollment opportunities for McGuffy High School juniors and seniors for the 2526 school year. So move >> second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. I'm sorry M my apologies Mr. Laser. >> I guess I would ask Mr. Bonus. Do we have more than just this? Didn't we have other

097school districts that was involved in this? We had we've had PC as our major one that we've had for 10 to 12 years. We had one student that in the last >> years I'm actually have an appointment at Washington College 29th to go talk to them about dual enrollment opportunities and so many of our students are attending Washington Jefferson. I can't see flexibility to see why we wouldn't do that. They have certain terms that they want to be about, but we're looking at bring hopefully to have that back to you in August, but we've got one. >> Yeah. No, I understand. Yeah. So, we'll be approving another one maybe later. It's okay. >> Thank you, Mr. Bonus. >> Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carries. I need

098a motion to declare the below list of textbooks along with the supplemental or related resources associated with the attached list as unused and unnecessary. and authorized disposal of the items as per the terms and conditions of the McGuffy School District policy 706.1 disposal of obsolete outdated equipment. >> So move second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I oppose. Motion carries. I need a motion to auction surplus fitness equipment as part of the ongoing fitness room renovation per district policy. Items to include six body master pieces, eight half squat racks and bench, no weights, bars, clamps, etc. Two dumbbell racks with dumbbells, one weight scale, one dip rack, one arm curl rack, and one lower back and ab rack. >> So move second >> discussion. >> Yes. Where where how does the auction

099work? Is it something that like is there somewhere specific that they're auctioning? >> Sure. So on the attached there you'll see mun minissit.com. [Music] Say that three times fast. It's an online government auction that Mr. Key is going through. There is no fee for the district to do this. We actually picked this part and end time. His hope is that some of this equipment will take care of itself by folks, you know, bidding on it. This is a, you know, this is a place that often you go to as a school to get rid of some of your like that. >> I don't see an attachment on here. Is that something that should be on here? >> The public contact >> background information. >> Oh, yeah. >> Public content. >> Oh my goodness, I totally

100overlooked that. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> And just Yeah. All right. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Same. Motion carries. Need a motion to accept a donation from West Liberty University of $500 for the tennis team per terms of the McGuffy School District policy 702 gifts, grants, and donations. >> So move second. >> Um discussion. I have a discussion point. Um I wish we had um so the donation from West Liberty to the tennis team. Um is that NCAA compliant? I don't know that the donation was made by the head tennis coach uh this past school year. West Liberty was undergoing renovations to their court. They reached out to us to see if we they could use it. Uh we I said yes. And in return, the tennis coach

101came by just a few weeks back and said he would like to donate on behalf of our generosity uh $500 to towards our tennis team. >> Is it specifically to the tennis team or is it to the school district? >> The um I don't have a check in front of me, but >> the check to >> school. >> Yeah. So then you don't to the school district. It's just >> But the minute says Tennessee. >> Yes. But the check was written to the school district. >> So we had to change it. >> No. Okay. >> Because it's still line it. I mean they're they're donating it to the to the district, but it will go towards the tennis team's budget. Correct. >> The administration would be in charge of using the money as if they

102Yeah. Any further discussion? >> All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. I'm actually going to abstain for being an NCAA coach. I don't want to be involved in that. Thanks. Need a motion to approve the agreement between McGuffy School District and Invo Healthc Care Associates for special education related services for the 2526 school year as presented. >> So move second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carries. >> Like to just intervene for a minute. And I have one of our coaches telling me it is NCAA compliant. Their compliance officer would not allow it if it wasn't. >> Just for everybody knowledge, >> have a question that the donation also. >> Oh, so I'm sorry I missed that. Um, we had I had a coach who

103contacted me who said it is NC NCAA compliance because West Liberty's compliance co uh compliance officer wouldn't allow the donation if it weren't. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, my question is I had no idea that West Liberty was using our tennis courts. That's something that again the only that's something that they would come to me and I don't know if it was ever reflected in our facility use >> the facility usage of the superintendent call >> correct where I'll leave off we already voted on this right >> y thank you need a motion approve the agreement between the intermediate unit one and McGuffy school district for the 2526 six school year which provides educational services to the district. >> So move second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed abstain.

104Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the agreement with transformation learning to provide special education placement and alternative educational services as presented. >> So move. Second. >> Discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? >> Stay. Motion carries. >> I need a motion to approve the Pennsylvania Schoolbased Access Program SBAT local education agency agreement to participate with support of the intermediate unit 1 FY26 as presented. I guess it's for year 25. Yeah. Second >> discussion. >> All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Oppose. Stay. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the agreement between McGuffy School District and Intercare Health System for special education psychiatric services for the 2526 school year as presented. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Discussion. All those in favor say I. I. >> Oppos. Motion

105carries. Need a motion to approve the purchase of Frontline's time and attendance management software for a three-year period. There is a one-time implement implementation fee of $3,450. The reoccurring annual fee is $8,000. This software package is offered at 5150 discount since Front Line is our absence management system and 5150 let me just 5,150. Sorry. >> So moved. >> Second >> discussion. >> Yep. Miss Fry >> Darlene, does this play into Shouldn't we approve frontline? >> Yes. So last month was the frontline financial analysis piece. This is going to be time and attendance so that we can better track who's working overtime and who isn't here and shouldn't be getting paid. Our current process is all on paper and we are spending a lot of money buying paper time sheets and if somebody calls off on

106an emergency that time may not get reflected that they were actually out of the office. So this software system is going to help us better manage that and pay appropriately. >> Okay. Thank you. >> So Mrs. Hbertchuk, they'll have to swipe in and out. There will be a process for them to to either have an app where they can check in and out on an app or we'll have a kiosk with a computer or laptop set up where they can check in and out when they come come in and out of the building. >> And the app has a um GPS locator so that it tells you where they are when they're checking in or out so that they have to if they weren't in the facility at that time you would be able to

107check. We're going to start with like the custodian, cleaners, cafeteria workers first to familiarize everybody. Those are the ones that have to really manually enter all their time on time sheet. So, we're going to start there first. >> This is a good service whenever you have to evacuate a building, know who's in it and who's out for safety reasons. >> Absolutely. >> Any further discussion? >> All those in favor say I. I. >> Opposed? Stain. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the agreement with Kind Communication Speech Therapy Services for the 2526 school year. >> So, second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Stay. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve payment to Weiss Birkhart Kramer LLC for invoice dated July 15, 2025 in the amount of $1,33745 as

108submitted. >> So move second >> discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Oppos. One of motion carries 701. I need a motion to approve policy 200 for adoption with revisions >> motion. >> Need a second. >> I'll second >> discussion. >> Yes. >> What's the revision is? Revision is the language that I I discussed or what is this? >> No, it would be what Dr. O. >> Oh, yeah. With the revision. I would need to make a motion to amend the motion. >> I'm not doing that until after everybody's kind of through discussing. >> You want to keep further discussing? >> Well, there were other people who had questions. >> Was there a second? >> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. >> Miss Fry, >> I second it. >> Okay. Sorry. >> Um, Miss Fry,

109did you have something you wanted >> Yes. >> to discuss? Yes. Go. Is yours? >> Yes. And Mrs. Jordan's questions with um you know, she suggested that we look at there being verbiage that um if there's you know, classroom increases based on PTE information. Is PTE's information I don't know how to ask the question. If PTE's information that suggests your average student class size, is that based on the number of students in our district? I I I don't know how I'm trying to phrase the question. I apologize. >> The PD has recommended >> okay >> uh class sizes starting in the early elementaryaries. Um and we have tended to always be below that number. >> Okay. And um and there is a total number of students that can occupy any space, right? There's an occupancy

110rate for that as well, which we also currently are under in each of our buildings, >> right? So what do we do I guess with this policy in the case that I know right now it's only you know maybe a handful of people who may utilize the policy and I I agree it's it is an awesome awesome idea. I'm all for the idea. What I'm concerned with is if there is need to increase the classroom, does that come to the board or is that something that administration can do? And what if that classroom increase requires us to hire a new teacher? So currently as it is written it would be the recommendation I mean not the recommendation would make be the decision of the administrative team to determine that >> but at capacity or correct

111availability of space >> correct nothing would occur if it again our students here have priority >> right but if the availability of space is recommended by PTE to be a certain number it would allow for administration to fill that classroom to that capacity correct >> correct Siri. Yes. I think I honestly don't have a concern on that. I do I do think the board wants to be cautious and maybe maybe add the the verdage that if the decision would put the enrollment at a class size above the recommended rate, it would come to the board. But I don't feel that I think I think it's overkill, quite frankly, to make the superintendent come to the board with every one of them. >> I'm not saying everyone. I'm saying as a result of this policy. If

112we take in so many students because this policy is allowing it and therefore we're allowed to make a this administration is allowed to say we need to increase this class size or we need two classrooms now so we need to hire a new teacher or something like that. That's that's what I'm getting at is it also even if we don't have to hire a new teacher, if we have an increased class size because of this policy and it takes away from the the smaller class sizes that our kids are benefiting from currently that hurts our madi students long if you put a number on it. Let's be honest, if it's one student who enrolls, right, >> that increases the class somewhere by one, right? I don't that's not an issue. I don't think >> but

113I think if it's if you're looking at it and I personally don't think this is going to happen, but let's say I don't know >> they're mostly elementary students and so you're going to end up with a elementary class that's increased by let's say five and that puts them over the cap that we follow. that I could see coming to the board and asking for or giving a recommendation and asking the board to either approve or not approve. But I don't I don't think it needs to come just for every increase because I think enrollment would be an increase. >> But I make a suggestion. >> Yes, >> policy is the governing, >> right? >> Then there are procedures to follow that policy. I think what you need is the policy and then you create

114the procedure that you follow based on number of students underneath that but they're two separate things but they're connected >> but it's not in here >> right and that's >> typically procedures aren't part of the policy you create the policy and then you would create the procedures to follow that policy >> and you could create those procedures to have grade level limits, for example. I mean, you could create the the process any way you want. >> Some policies include procedures. Not many, but some do. Um, but to that point, >> well, let me just clarify though. procedures is something that we would >> and I've said this before the board votes policies which is the administration's responsibility to develop procedures and that's how they enforce >> or or govern from their perspective that's how they

115lead on a day-to-day basis those policies >> right >> the board doesn't come up with the procedures that's the administration's job >> I understand that >> I just wanted to be sure that we're all clear >> about this policy and what kind of weight it could potentially hold. We do have 130 teachers that could say, "I want to bring my kids here." I understand it's not likely, but it could be 20. We don't know. We really that is all hypothetical of well we yes we have a few that are interested now and I know we can always revisit this but in this moment right now the way the policy is written or right now the way that I'm understanding this is going to work is there is potential for class sizes to increase to a

116to a point that could negatively impact students is basically my concern to sum it up >> and I I don't know if this relieves your concerns or not, Miss Fry, but as it's written right now, it does say the enrollment is subject to space availability. So, >> and that our students needs will be placed first. >> So, I think we have to entrust the administrators to to to understand and that's part of the procedure is if it gets to be too much, then they know that they can't accept these students. but is too much as in the the availability. Is that PTE's recommendation or is that I don't even know what McGuffy's >> well we follow >> preferred class. >> So we we have always not always we for the most part have remained below

117recommend class sizes >> for each of the grade levels. Again is something that we've not approached. We're we're close in a couple areas, but not anything that I would have to monitor. And again, according to the policy, if it did intrude on the fact that we would have to um increase beyond that, then that would be an area again that I could not have that happen, right? Like that's again in in this hypothetical where we have 130 staff that we've identified as outside of district. >> Sure. >> That would be the hypothetical that would >> Right. Right. >> I understand that. But my my question is with the availability, the space and availability, is that >> is there something that McGuffy is using as a guideline that's not recommended PD? Because recommended by PTE might

118be saying you can have I'm just going to throw a number out there. I know it's not legit, but a 30 kid classroom, 30 student classroom, I wouldn't I think that's too many kids for one teacher. So that's the that's what I'm getting at is is I know you said there's or somebody mentioned there's a madi threshold and then there's a PTE recommended threshold. >> What number is that? And like I guess >> yeah it it would depend on again grade level the space we're talking about because again you know Joe Walker looks a little bit different classroom size and of course facial and of course that looks different than up here at high school middle school. So, I mean, I I I I know I completely understand what the question you're asking. >> Yeah.

119>> It's it's one of those things where when we we come to that point, I'll have to make that determination that based on the fact of looking at class size, uh the impact it's going to have on class size. I just don't think we're we're going to be there this year. And and as you just said, Miss Fry, too, the board does have the opportunity after we've gone through this to make amendments, changes to it based on what we're seeing happen. And it does clearly say enrollment is subject to space availability with school district residents receiving priority for enrollment and classroom placement. So to me that language says we're going to put our our district kids first. And if it's if the increasing the class size is a detriment to our home our home district

120students then that's going to be looked at. I don't have a problem leaving that up to the superintendent. The verbiage is there to protect him as well as us and our students. >> I understand. I'm not I won't say what I want to say, but it was already brought to us to increase the class size by involuntary transfer and that that was something that I believe that came because of concerns this board had raised about budget. But >> that's not the point. The point is that it was still being recommended. And so it's it's tough to see this. >> Well, it was it was being recommended because of of course the budget that we're facing, but also too because of the class sizes that currently exist at Clayville versus the class sizes. They the numbers

121still wouldn't have met the numbers of students >> at Joe Walker. Their class sizes are still going to be larger than what we had. That's all I'm saying. >> It was it was a recommendation that everyone knows here. It was not something I was comfortable with, but I knew what was being asked from the budget that I had recommendations. >> And I do understand that. I I do. It's just I guess for me it wasn't a priority priority before. So, it's concerning moving forward that it's not a priority now is is my concern with this policy. >> I think this policy though is intended with all due respect, Dr. Ober, and correct me if I'm wrong. It's more to geared towards trying to get the teachers the ability to bring their their child here. Yes.

122And in turn, if you're a teacher, if you're a young teacher and you bring your kid here who's in kindergarten, >> the likelihood is you're going to stay here and teach for 12 years because you don't want to move your kid out of the district. >> No, I totally understand the purpose of it. I And that's why I say I think it's a great idea, >> but at what cost to our district, at what cost to our student? I think we have to entrust that the administrators will not make it a cost to our to our students. And I think that's why that verbiage is in there. >> I do too. >> Um so I just I I think this goes back to what we always talk about is trust. We just got to trust

123that our administrators are going to do right by the students. And again, if you know, you're revisiting this a year from now after we've tried it for a year, you know, that may look different. Um, but I don't I don't think that the solution is to not try it. >> I'm not saying not at all. So, I there's a lot of things, Rebecca, as far as like favoritism to these students or these students end up in their parents. We have students in our district whose parents also teach in our district. I mean, these aren't problems that are unique or that could be unique. Um, >> I think we try it. >> Uh, yes, Mrs. Revard, >> we approved so many things. >> Can you refresh my memory? Have we >> approved transfers of students for

124say when they want to come to the district for FFA? Did they come through the board? Yeah. Will this be something that comes through the board >> when we want to transfer >> that's what the policy is saying that it's an option? >> Yes. I'm getting >> I think what Mrs. Robartic saying is if somebody comes to talk and says yeah I want to bring my my first grader here does the board have to approve that or not >> right >> I will defer to the council on how I understood >> not the way it's um I would say no not the way it's written. I mean, this is um a policy. I'm sorry I'm missing the first page, but this entire policy deals with the enrollment in the district. So, there are other um

125issues in here for residency that that the board does not determine, you know, administration determines. >> And if I'm not mistaken, the board votes on transfer students >> because of tuition costs. That's really what we're voting on. Correct. >> I believe so. >> I would assume so. Yes. I'm not I'm not very I'm not overly familiar if that with that program. However, I would also say that that could be something they could actually >> we we have to have board approval for >> for the for the tuition for why it's brought to the board because they're waiting to see no tuition cost which is why it wouldn't have come to the board. >> This is more of a blanket. >> Yes. >> Um one sizefits all if you're in this category versus >> and because

126it doesn't involve the transfer of money, >> right? Each one doesn't have to come to the board for approval. >> All right. So, we have the motion, we have a second, we had discussion. Is there any further discussion before we vote? >> Um, I just wanted to address Mr. >> I just wanted to address Miss Jordan's concern about uh preferences to which school they would go to. And I know that's that's a hard thing to sort out. You know, do I want my kid to go to, you know, Joe Walker or Playsville? Um, I don't know how we would sort that out, but I al also would want to make sure that students who are currently in the district are in the school that they're supposed to be in. You and I don't know if

127that's something that we check on regularly just to make sure that they're, you know, >> I actually want to talk later when we get to the end of the meeting, if we ever get to the end of the meeting, um, about the, um, Mrs. Jordan mentioned this and I've asked about it before with parents in our district who would like to move their children. Let's say they live in the Claysville area where their ch their child would attend Claysville but they work at Joe Walker area um and they would like to have their child at Joe Walker instead because it makes it more convenient for them to be able to attend school functions, drop them off to school, pick them up, whatever. We don't currently allow that. And I do think that that's a useful

128conversation, but that's kind of separate from >> Yeah. So, >> yes, I'm just saying that's why I was asking later. >> It is a really good question though, Mr. Gross, because if you have a teacher that teaches high school, obviously their elementary kids not going to go to the high school, right? So, which school do we put them in? I think that falls back on the administration and see what >> as I've already expressed that is solely based on >> and and how we have district how we have drawn up the line in our district. >> No no no what I was talking about >> no no no no for this >> for Mr. Grove so say you have a high school teacher say Mr. about this principal and he has an elementary kid that

129he wants to get elementary school here. So, which school do we put he or she? >> One of the things I would use actually is looking at classes. >> Yeah. >> Be the first place we >> Yeah, that's >> okay. Okay. Thanks. >> But the employee wouldn't have to say. >> No. >> All right. So, any further discussion? >> I make a We're done with discussion. I make a motion to amend the motion um so that the verbiage includes enrollment is subject to space and special needs availability with school district residents receiving priority for enrollment and class room placement. So you're just you're just adding subject to space and >> special special services probably better verbiage. >> If I could suggest maybe space and special service and instruction so that you're kind of encompassing everything

130that services can sometimes be different than instruction. So space and special >> um how about enrollment is subject to availability um of space and or special services and instruction. Is that special to space and special services instruction? >> Did that work? Okay. >> Yes. Did you >> make sure she got it? >> I second. Okay. Okay. So, the second paragraph. >> Yeah. The second I might not even have it clear from you. >> Yeah. I do that a lot. Okay. So, I the second paragraph enrollment is subject to space and special services and instructions availability. >> Is that good? I would I would do availability of what I actually said was okay enrollment is subject to availability of space and or special services and instruction >> dramatically. >> I'm gonna have the solic enjoying my

131first time here at a meeting. Um uh the motion um amends the second paragraph only first sentence and it would say enrollment is subject to availability of space andor special services and special education services and instruction is >> it is not I can see and then it would continue on. So I'll just reread it over again. It would say enrollment is subject to availability of space and/or special education services and or instruction, with school district residents receiving priority for enrollment and classroom placement. >> Thank you. >> All right, we have a motion. We have a second. We need a roll call. You're voting yes to amend it to what the solicitor just read or you're voting no to leave it to the original >> not to amend it. >> Mr. >> Yes. Motion carries. 8

132Z and we now will I I need a motion approved. >> I need a motion to approve the revised agenda item. >> So move. >> Second. >> Do we need to have any more discussion on it? >> All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Stained. Motion carries. I need a motion to approve policy 216 for adoption. >> Second. >> All right, we have a motion. We have a second. Do we have discussion? >> This is the one that was up last month for first reading. Um, and there really was not a whole lot of change. The biggest change I mean there was mostly grammatical things commas even mechanical things like spacing but the biggest thing is the including inclusion of the verbiage about um maintaining records um electronically. It's assuring appropriate retention

133and security of student records electronically for at least five years after graduation. and we were asked to change that verbiage specifically for FFA um and something that came out of their most recent audit. So that's what it is and this would be the night that we would vote on it u because it we've already had the month of first reading. I have not had anyone contact me with any concerns or input. >> Thank you, Miss Jackson. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I >> opposed. Motion carries. The budget expenditure report for the month of June 2025 is presented for your review. The PCAR spending report for the month of June 2025 is presented for your review. Do we have a solicitor's report? >> No. I would just say thank you so much

134for having me. >> Thank you. Um, we have a Western Area Career and Technology Center report. >> Yes, Miss Fry, >> there were lots of attachments for you this month. Um, again, I apologize for not having anything last month. I had forgotten all of my notes. Um, obviously no student of the month due to um month of June, no school. There are the attachments from the graduates um the list of graduates that all graduated um in addition to the school district they graduated from. Um, actually our student of the month tonight was one of those graduates. So, congratulations to all of our McGuffy graduates from Western Area. Um, the other attachment that's there for your view is the um student enrollment information. And I think the rest of those are all the um budgetary items.

135The one here is the cooperative education update. Um that has the list of um the districts, the students in the district, the grade um the the employer um and the program that those students are currently co-oping with. Um so we always like to see all of those co-op programs. there's a lot of students that end up with full-time jobs um once they leave Western area and um it's really exciting to see that. Um but yes, so lots of information there, the minutes from the meeting um all for your all for your view. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Fry. >> Pennsylvania School Board Association report, Miss Shingle. >> Um just really a couple of things. urgent. They're once again they remind us like every day they're sending something saying contact your representatives over this cyber

136charter reform. >> Okay. Um and then in on September 12th and this is out on site at Mechanicsburg that is the uh starting strong on boarding for uh revisions of the year. The the um school leadership conference is October 19th and 20 through 21st. That one's in the Poconos if anybody wants to vacation there. That one is again an on-site one. Oh, I lost my thing here. The other um the other ones are uh the webinars and remember that there some of them that are 10 minutes long and really there's there's valuable information on there. I know that there's building bridges coming up. There is designing spaces. It goes from everything from finances to new equipment. It and really it's all information that you can use. Uh there's always something about school safety and about

137preparedness. Please consider something. Look at something. Even if you only listen to a 10-minute webinar, see what you can learn there. And once again, they're asking anybody interested on being on that board. There's two positions open. Is that something that you think you'd be interested in? When those people come and present to us, there are people getting started just right where we are. So that might be your calling if if that's something you'd be interested in. And that's about it. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Jingle. Policy committee chairperson, Miss Jackson, any report? >> Um, we were not able to meet um last week. Uh so our next meeting will be August 12th and we're still working on the AI um and technology uh yeah policies. Forgot the word policies. It's been a long day.

138>> So that's where we are. Thank you. >> And at 4:00 on August 12th and that happens to be because our August meeting, our regular scheduled board meeting is early in August. It's the Tuesday before that Thursday meeting. >> Thank you, Miss Jackson. We will now take public comment >> on non-aggenda items. >> I think it can actually be >> I think it can be both. We just haven't changed it yet. Non Yeah, non-aggenda and agenda items. Chief, I'm sorry. >> Oh, you're good, Mr. President. Chrissy Florian. >> Thank you, Chief. Thank you, Chief. >> Hi, everybody. Good evening. Um, legal name is Marjorie, by the way, new solicitor, but I go by Chrissy. Don't know why my mom didn't just name me that. Um, anyways, welcome to the new solicitor. I just want to

139say welcome to McGathi. And, um, we're glad that you're here. I believe that your services are well needed and I hope that the board only grows from here. I'm going to try not to cry. I'm a very emotional person. Um, but I would just want to start off by thanking McGuffy as far as all the teachers, the counselors, and the other staff and the community that has through the years been there for supported during some of the hardest saddest parts of Hayden's life and that helped me as a widow widowed mother guide and transform him into the young man that you have seen tonight. I am beyond thankful to all of you, especially to those that stepped up and helped us in our time of need to make life a little bit easier. Hayden is

140an amazing young man and that I credit that to this village, my late husband and um that had had nine years to raise him and to my boyfriend of the last six years for stepping up to help me raise him. Uh, thank you to Mr. Do Dr. Gautran for your kind words about my son and making sure that Hayden has been recognized and same goes to you Dr. Obert. Um, kind of random. Um, I would I would encourage the district to enforce and be vigilant when it comes to the dress code this year. As you know, I have five daughters. Um, from what I've heard, you have girls in this school with inappropriate clothing. It seems to be an issue in the middle and the high school as it is not completely the school's responsibility

141that I would um say that the parents need to do better. we are raising young women. Um, I know I've mentioned a couple times about that and just these I would not let my children walk out of the house with some of these clothes that I hear they are wearing in school. You would not let your teachers that you pay um, dressed like that. So, I would just suggest that teachers and staff be more vigilant about it. I mean, I don't know where the boundary is with all of that, but it's just it's just distasteful. Um, now to turn it around a little bit on the more negative, uh, as of course I do, um, I believe that there is always room for improvement in everything. going back and listening to the two previous meetings

142as I was unable to be here 85% of that time. I try my best to be at every meeting. As you most of you know, I am disheartened by some of the board members actions and I will be reviewing those meetings one more time before I speak up publicly again. I'm glad to hear that some finally can't read my own writing. that ha have um acknowledged that there is an a bullying issue but I wasn't prepared to hear that it it to be discussed as an adult board members issue as I observe I find some members tone and delivery of what they say to be aggressive I suggest some people to take a step back and to re-evaluate your delivery because as far as I'm concerned concerned, you come across as aggressive. I like I've

143said in the past that the children in the community are watching. Some of you were new to some of you were new new to this and um at one point so you used to be new also to all of this. So the please just treat others with uh the kindness that you would want to be treated with. Um we feel the hostility and y'all stress me out. Uh please uh only turn on your mics when you're speaking because when I was listening online and people are coughing you're coughing very loudly. It's it's just distracting. Um one more thing point was >> okay she's going to do it but I totally agree like I think that if somebody is terminated I think that we as a community h should in some ways know who and what

144has happened. I mean it is our children in this school. We Yeah. >> Thank you. Thank you, Chief. One more, Mr. President. Vicky Jordan. >> Thank you, Chief. Yes, sir. >> Jordan, Buffalo Township. I promise I'll be quick. I just need clarification. So, when it comes to the resignations, not termination. For me, termination and resignation are two completely different things. And I know with termination you have to be a little more sensitive about it, but my concern is with the resignations and my confusion is are we no longer going to know at all because at least we could come in and see it on the agenda. And from what it sounds like now that's going to be removed. So, the only way the community is going to know who's leaving our district voluntarily is through

145the gossip mill. So, am I correct on that? I'm confused on what was the final decision for how you're going to list resignations. What I took away from it was the community, the taxpayers, the parents were no longer going to have any clue who's resigning. So, if I could get any clarity on that at some point, I'd really appreciate it because I think I do feel like we have a right to know who's leaving our district. >> We can talk. >> Okay. >> Thank you, >> Chief. Oh, I'm sorry, Chief. >> That concludes all, Mr. President. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Items for discussion. >> I do have one. >> Go ahead, Mr. Miss Jackson. >> Two. My understanding as far as to what Mrs. Jordan was just speaking, my understanding was we were

146going to leave it up to the administration to ask those who are resigning if they would be okay with us putting their name out there um and leave it up to the employee. Is that correct? >> Yes. And then based on that decision as to whether their name would appear or not appear on the paper copies that we will hand out. Correct. >> Okay. Um the other thing is and I mentioned this earlier. I've asked about this before um but I do I do think that this it is a valid point. Um, I am all for I and I think that's been very clear the the idea of allowing our teachers who live our employees who live in other districts to have the option to have their children in the district in which they work.

147Um, but at the same time, I do think it it raises an interesting question about how we treat our own home district residents. Um there are families who for lots of varying reasons would maybe rather have their child at Joe Walker or Claysville um whatever those extenduating circumstances are and that's not allowed at all currently. Um we do we follow strictly wherever they live. Um, and I think it's a valid conversation to have because when you have families who are saying to you, you know, I I understand that we live in the area where my child would go to Clayville, but we both work with the husband and the wife work in the Joe Walker area, South Franklin, that end of Washington, right in that area. It would be we would be much more particip

148participative >> participative um in our child's life if we had them at a school where we could get to quickly. I you know on my lunch break I could go attend this program or or whatever it is. Um and if we don't if we don't have that then we're going to have to look at alternatives meaning not have them enrolled in our district. I I just I think it's a conversation worth having. >> I would just add a few things. Transportation is our responsibility. So if somebody lives in West Alexander and we approve them to go to Joe Walker, that is our responsibility to transport them, that's going to increase costs. We could have 50 students that want to go to fourth and fifth grade at Joe Walker. And then what do you do about

149space at Joe Walker? So although I agree that we need to explore options, I think we also need to look at the cost to the district within all of those options. >> I agree and I think there are ways around that and I'm not saying certainly everybody who wants to make a change. I'm look I would say I mean would be for extenduating circumstances not just you know I like it better there or whatever. Um but the other thing is you know parents to whom I've spoken have said we'll transport our child Um, that was one of the reasons they they were looking at that was because then they would like to have the opportunity to drop their child off at school and pick their child up from school and they can't do that if

150their child is in is in the other school. Um, and then you get into you're sending a child then they've got to worry about having someone home to for when that child's getting dropped off because they're not there. Um, so I'm not saying every case and I do think you'd have to have c guidelines as to what the extenduating circumstances are or how that's handled. And I do think transportation would have to be on the owner. It would have to be the parents responsibility. The we provide transportation for the area in which they live. If they would like something outside of that and we grant that because of extenduating circumstances, then that's on them. I think would be the way the verb were that. I I would add though this is why I am in

151favor of the administration making that decision. They know the student. They know what's going on. They can decay. We have to trust them at some point. >> I agree. But at this point, we don't they don't have the room to make any decision. It's just they we follow where they live. >> I just think you're getting into a slippery slope, letting people decide. It's whenever you start talking about each circumstance now, you're going to be people are going to claim favoritism. Uh I think it's just a really slippery slope. The other thing you'll get into is if I take my daughter, if I live in Clayville and I say I want my daughter to go to third grade at Joe Walker and have the semester in, I don't like her teacher. I don't know. I'm

152going to take her back to now. >> I mean, where does it stop? I mean, and if we allow I mean, um, say you have a teacher that lives in West Alexander that has a daughter that goes to Claysville and she's an elementary school teacher at Joe Walker and she wants her kid to go to Joe Walker with her because she's at Joe Walker. She's going to Joe Walker. What happens if she gets transferred over to Claysville because we need another teacher at Claysville? Now you're taking that child out of that class and bringing it back to Claysville. I like Mr. Gross said, I think there's so many scenarios and the way we have been doing it for years. Um, Mr. Bonus, you've been in here half a century. Um, >> wow. >> But again,

153it does come down to this. >> There are many scenarios and even I'll transform to That's all I It's not out of understanding where they're coming from asking for, but then it can turn into your own school choice within your own district. And just because this is why I brought this up earlier, we could find ourselves then having a class that has more than because everyone wants to be at Joe Walker, everyone wants to be. So, it really isn't as simple as what it then becomes. >> Yeah. more. So that's, >> you know, we we've done our best to look at our district from the perspective of class size and size, how we're transporting them, where they need to be based on our size. That's really what dictates drives along with what we're doing. >>

154You can get a parent that says, "I'm I don't want to drive them anymore, and if I do, I want reimbured by the district." >> Parents can get reimbured. >> No, I'm sorry. It's okay. >> We can talk about it. >> If something does continue to happen, I will stop and be on it. But the line right through my yard and I hope >> I would agree that it's a very slippery slope and I think we have a lot more priorities to work going. I agree. Any other items for discussion this evening? I'll just say I think that's interesting considering the number of people who have said we need to look at how to maintain enrollment and increase enrollment and yet we're not looking outside the box for um ways in which to encourage them

155to stay in our district instead of disenrolling their students and putting them in cyber school. >> I think it's they're looking into other ways. That's why this was brought to us. I think this new policy 200 though is a way to try to increase enrollment because now you're >> I'm not disputing that at all. >> That's why I voted for it. >> All right. Um just to make an announcement so I don't forget it at the next meeting. Um there will be an executive session held this evening to discuss personnel covers me just in case I forget the next time to to make the announcement. Um I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. So moved. Sorry. >> Do I have a second? >> Second. >> All right. All those in favor say I. >>

156I. Meeting is adjourned at 8:40 p.m. [Music] >> You'll be swinging to let you in. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I got to sign the one I had signed on.