McGuffey School Board Meeting April 17, 2025

001Good evening everybody. Going to call the the committee meeting to order. Over. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. Good evening to members of the board of directors. Uh also to committee members that are in attendance. I have three items for committee this Thursday evening. Uh first up, probably one of the most used parts of our high school middle school. Um I'd usually rank it within probably the top five or three most used spots within the building and that's our fitness center. Um our athletic room from Stead Dalton is here tonight uh to make a presentation about some proposed upgrades, improvements uh needed in the fitness center uh and discuss ways uh in which possibly to finance the project. So with that, Mr. Dalton, probably not. Okay, thank you everybody. Um we'll get moving. We'll make this

002presentation short and sweet. Thank you for touring. That really helped. Uh we gave uh our board members an opportunity to see the current and existing room. Now we're going to show you um some of our ideas for um uh advancing the room. We're going to show you um how to how we think that there's a possibility to get this done without any new monies, monies that are already available. Um this idea started because our lease is up on the cardio equipment. Um so we thought is there an opportunity to at the same time that the cardio equipment leases up um redo the whole room and then how to pay for it. So those are the steps. U Mrs. Short, our FISAD chairman wrote a letter. I'm just going to show you the letter really quickly.

003I'm not going to read it to you. In general, the letter just basically states that the room is used every period of the day and is a vital part of fizzed instruction now. And it it it went from something that was maybe a want to something that's a need that's wellused and probably as popular as anything that we do in physical education right now. So the Fizzad department um strongly endorses the use of that. I'm going to send you guys the entire presentation afterwards so you can look at it on your own in your own time. I have some testimonials from our principles. So, I'm going to I'm going to play those. Um, they video recorded because they're u they're they're not here tonight and I thank them for doing that. First, Mr. Bonus. renovation

004center. I think it's a great idea for our students and for our community. Obviously, the business center is used widely by our athletic teams and other activities that we have, but we also use that in a tremendous during school day, our physical education classes, make use of that seven periods a day. Also, we have educational electives such as weight training and interpersonal fitness, which is a class that is in a smaller group setting as opposed to certain student gym class. You can learn how to develop personalized fitness routine for yourself. kids who are maybe uncomfortable with engaging in a large class allows them to complete their physical education requirements. Um our physical education classes are are students today are engaged but some of them are maybe less engaged due to our digital lifestyle and less

005activity or less active lifestyle I guess in some way and the benefit of physical education curriculum is that it teaches students the fundamentals of exercise and what that looks like and how to train different parts of the body and how to develop it and how you should avoid injury and all those things that they're going to need much later in life. You know, exercise becomes more important in different parts of our life. We face that health condition later in life and we're going to need to draw our experiences. For some students, this may be the experience they get on how to help manage their health. as they grow. One of the many things that teach you the fundamentals and allow you to build upon those successful. Um I think also the renovation would be a

006nice idea as it follows the renovations that we've done to the high school stadium and the renovations we've done in the high school gymnasium. So, it really sort of hits that third piece to to make that area as competitive with any other school district around. I think we have great facilities first size and I think this would add a compliment especially if we can bring it in at a at a neutral number that doesn't additional financing option doesn't add additional cost to the taxpayer um in particular for this year. Um but um I think it's a great idea. I think our kids will use it. I think it it promotes a sense of school pride marketing and the branding that's there are things the kids love. Kids like customization whether it be changing the u

007appearance of their automobile or changing the cover of their iPhone. Everybody likes customization. Want to make it as individualized as personal as possible. But I think the upgrades that I've seen there really allow us to really market and um and sort of brand our schools with our new mascot and such. So I think it's a great idea. If we can make it happen at a good cost, I think it's even a better idea. Thank you. Great job. There's so many things. I have I have Coach Perry here also. I'll bring him in in a moment. Here's Dr. Middle School. Dalton asked me to speak to the potential upgrade facility here at the middle school. Our kids facility. We've established and created a period lifting and workout group. We have high interest in that group both

008male and female students. It would be a great service to all of our students um for for an upgrade of the facility and it is heavily used by all of our our students. I think that the proposal that coach has presented um gives us the best return on investment for the facility. I'm in full support of it and anything I can do to make it happen. Thank you. [Music] like this workspace. I can figure it out. Back to workspace shortness financing. Coach Perry sent me some pictures. So, uh, I'm going to show you just a a couple pictures that maybe illustrate the point of, um, you know, oh, this scrolls me on. So, um, variety different kids all day long. Um, coach all the the public wasn't all there. the uh uh your national strength.

009Um he's one of 1% of the the uh strength the high school people that do strength and conditioning that have the certification. Um would you just talk a minute about the program maybe come up here that you use with the kids? Maybe leave it to like a minute or two so everybody else is informed. Yeah, absolutely. As coach said, I'm I'm Mr. Perry, middle school um health and physical education teacher. I'm the head varsity football coach and a middle school uh basketball coach. Um last spring I was able to um get to get nationally certified as a strength and conditioning coach. Um I've been working in that role um since I started teaching here, but uh last spring I I um you know I got an official certification. Um I just to hit on some

010of the points that Mr. bonus and uh Dr. Welk mentioned our um fitness center and weight room that those terms are used interchangeably. Um it is used every every single day all day. Um we open it up um for um about an hour every morning when we when we have um staff available um for for some students to come in um and exercise or you know um work on their strength training for their sports. Um it is used every single period of the day um by our high school and and some periods by our middle school students as well. Um and and for both athletes and non-athletes. Um it's not just uh it's not just me as a as a football coach that wants a new weight room. I I promise you that. And um

011you know our like like Mr. Bonus said our um our fizzed staff allows um students who maybe don't want to participate in a in a game that we're doing or activity we're doing to come into the fitness center and utilize it whether they're just walking on a treadmill and with their headphones in or um you know using the resistance machines or free weights. um you know, students have that opportunity every single day and I I think that that's very important um if if that's how they want to choose to live a healthy lifestyle that they have those options. Um at the end of the day, like Dr. Well said. Um during Highlander period 13, um our middle school students come down and some additional high school students come in um and we do strength training.

012We do uh resistance training um and uh utilize the cardio equipment. Um after school, uh our students have the opportunity to um stay after school and utilize it. Um all of our just about all of our athletic teams utilize it after school. And then, you know, and this is currently going on right now. Our community members are using it right now and that they have access to it three days a week. Um, and it's also used all summer. Um, from 7:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Monday through Friday. Um, it's opened up to our students, our athletes, um, that they can come in and, uh, and and use and use our fitness center. and and you know, as as a now a certified strength and conditioning coach and and getting more, you know, gaining more knowledge

013about um just the whole picture, I I can tell you that we we desperately need a new room. Um and uh it will be used greatly. Um it maybe even more so than it is right now. Um that's that's what I have to say and I hope that the uh the board will consider the the proposed renovation and we uh we can move forward with it. Thank you. Obviously, we have a dynamic leader there. So, uh we understand the tough budget time also. So, we're not naive to that. So, when when we show you the numbers there, uh we just did the best we could. I'd like to give you a quick tour. So, this like a 3D version of the room, what it would look like. And again, I'll send this to you if

014you'd like it. So that be an overhead of the existing space. I wish I could do this in a better way, but just not that good. So our current room, we put the we put the equipment in after we had a room. We didn't design or we we we fit the equipment we had to the room. Now we've designed the equipment for the existing space that we have. So, it'll be much more productive and much more uh much easier to uh instruct and safer as well. Safer as well. Take a look at everybody. Since we've upgraded our equipment to like three core equipment, we've literally had no problems for 5 years, but now the wear and tear and the lease is up. That's how this started that the the that lease was up. Here's a

015good 3D look at what the room would look like from the far side. there'd be a new floor put in. Flooring has some issues just because of the pounding it's taken over the years um that we would we would address. That's a good front to back look what it would look like. We lo everything like we've done everywhere else in the building. Kind of gives it a neat look. end of the room. Existing mirrors, we loaded up the benches. It's another good look from the back of the room [Music] forward. Um, logo that up, including the bars even say Highlanders on them, which is pretty cool. And kind of an overview of the entire room. Okay. So, can't seem to get back to my work spaces where I had the my Let me look here.

016See if I can Oops. I knew that was going to happen. Why keeps spinning? See if I can get it. So, Mr. Shart wrote a grant proposal. Um, we were told um by uh we were told by um that Athletic Advantage that it'll be accepted. It was uh actually uh physically submitted um yesterday before 3:00's deadline. It was very well written. I'll save you the details of that. I think this is the proposal that what's it dollars? All right, here we go. Uh the cost of the fitness center would be $18,000. Um the cost of redoing the cardio alone is at least would be like $40,000. Um originally there was thought that maybe in the capital bond that expires, they must be spent by July 1st. There would be the cost of the room. Coach

017Mc Mr. was hoping that and then the boiler went at Joe Walker. So, we used some um other funding. So, the capital uh bond issue has 50 I'll let Mrs. Spillian or Albert Chuck speak on this a little bit better than I am, but the capital bond has $50,000 in essence that you guys are for that dedicated to this room. We were providing $5,000 a year in huddle funding for the teams. We went to the booster clubs and asked them instead of them giving us a payment for this, would they be willing to pay for hugs? They all said they would. So that's $25,000 more, $5,000 a year. Obviously, this is the least that we would take out of it. In theory, we think there'll be $15,000 at the end of the year left in

018the athletic budget from two unpaid coaches and a little bit more in supplies and things like that. one time we would take that claw back, however you want to call it, $15,000. That would take us to $80,000. The Highark grant is $7,500. We would no longer need the tri-state uh contract because the new equipment would all be um under warranty for a period of time of like five years. That would take $6,000, $1,200 a year that we pay right now off the table there. We would use the remaining $3,000 that we have in the T-Mobile grant and we would ask the alumni association for $2,000 which they verbally agreed to uh getting us to the $108,000 number. So, um are you helping? Absolutely you are. Um but I think um for a brand new Roman

019essence that the kids would be extremely excited about that would capture everybody's interest and that does not stop us from going and trying to sell advertising going and trying to get a naming rights person. We we have contacted a couple people. I think it is after doing this for a little bit. I think it's easier to show them the room to get their name on it than it is to project it out to them. So, if we have a a high-end room and all of a sudden 10 mile, sorry to use 10 mile if you're watching, uh wants to give us x amount of money, then it could become the 10 mile based on the uh uh contracting or sponsorship agreements that we already have in place. Those kind of things. So, that that's all

020I'm saying. Um any other questions? So, just so that I'm clear, where is she? Sorry. Um, from a board perspective, we would have to vote to approve using the capital bond money. Correct. Correct. Correct. Um, because the athletic money is already a line item in the budget, we wouldn't have to do anything with that. Correct. Because they're still using it for athletics. So, the only thing that essentially comes down to the board is the bond. Correct. Correct. And we just wanted to be we understand what's going on. So we just wanted to be transparent so you know exact so somebody walks up to you at food land you you can tell them I appreciate this information I really do this is what we did and Dr. Oberg was insistent and uh M Hovershock was insistent

021that we did it we did it in that we did it in that fashion Mrs. age. She will now be learning how to show it be written. Show it be sent. Any any other questions? I have two questions. Go ahead. My first one is and I I recognize this might not be exactly what what we're getting in this presentation, but if there is that like what we would be getting what you showed at the floor plan. Yes. We we also think though before we would actually put the whole order in, we would sit down one more time with all the stakeholders and go through piece by piece by piece because Fizzad's been on board. Everybody's been on board the principles the whole way. But like say, "All right, here it is. Here's the sheet. Here's

022the treadmill. Are we good with four of those treadmills? Like, do you want to uh slip an elliptical for a treadmill?" you know, and then just that way nobody um but but we we actually touched base with everybody again today and we're all on the same page, including the adults at night. So, um we wanted to make sure that that's exactly right, but that doesn't mean you're right. There could be a little tweak or whatever, but nothing that would change the money and nothing that would change the look of 99% of that room. And I guess that actually left me with three questions because the next one is is there I know you mentioned um you know upgrading as part of safety, you know, the equipment is older, etc. Is there less in what you

023plan on doing here than what there is currently in the room? Because this looks like there's a little more room to walk. So what it is is some of the machines, and Coach Perry could correct me, are compound machines. So in in that room you have the old circuits and circles that take up a lot of room. Now you might be doing if you if you sat this way you might be doing shoulder press and if you sit this way you might be doing lat pull. So we've taken some of the restricted area. Am I am I on it coach? Uh and and and minimize it on the sides but kept in in essence almost every single station because we thought that was important um in in the whole uh drift of the program. The

024design is just more streamlin. Right. Right. Um and then my last question unless something else pops in my mind. Um once the warranty is up, you mentioned like five or six years, how who how are the repairs being covered? I think we would probably have to go back to some outside organization like TriState that would be willing to do that. But honestly, the the major upkeep um other than belts and stuff like that is upholstery. So, you want to when you get to that wear and tear part, you want to keep replacing the upholstery because that's when the room starts to look bad, you don't keep the upholstery up to date. And we've done a good job of that. And I think our kids treat treat it like that because of that. And if it

025looks bad, then they treat it bad. Right. Right. Um, and how how often has the upholstery been replaced current? It just depends like whether you do leg curl or like regular curl seems to go once a year. Okay. where you do uh leg extension, not much. It just depends on how much head, how much use, how much, you know, whatever uh uh friction is in that area that wears the upholstery at. Okay. And what are what are the costs associated with replacing the upholstery when um it's so that they would come to us, they would they inspect four times a year and then they come to us and say, "We need whatever a piece of upholstery for $85." It's not it's not like $3,000. It's like $100 at a pop and that's part of your

026athletic budget. Correct. Correct. Okay. It's like in our uh in our like um reconditioning replacement that that category. Okay. Thank you. Well, is 50,000 that's from the capital bond. Is that everything that's in that fund right now? Um no, there's still a little bit more in there because of interest that is approved. They using 50,000 of greater amount. Yeah. And what other What other things did that or can it fund? It's anything that's capital projects related, which right now is funding boiler projects and the chiller. And we're going to change the lights in that room. We're going to put a new floor in that room. We're going to repaint that room. We're going to do everything to make it look brand new. And I'm assuming that we've talked to Mr. McKe and there's nothing else.

027Yes, he's on board. He's a fan. Yes. cardio,000. So if we just did the cardio, it would be 35 or $40,000 to do that again. So in essence, you're going to get a whole room for 108 as opposed to just new cardio and then cardio equipment. Cardio equipment. And the the world today, you know, uh we could tariff everything by by next year and who knows what would happen. So um it it probably won't get any less expensive. Yes. If if you want to keep the cardio equipment working at the standard and it is buzzing coach, every machine except for maybe the two old bikes are buzzing buzzing every minute of the day with the exception of a change period. They love the all that stuff, you know, instead of playing kickball when they get

028older. Nothing wrong with kickball though. Now, if you watch his middle school kickball, it's blood sport, but but I don't know any 50 year olds who are still playing kickball for No, there there aren't there aren't many. No. And selectorized equipment is, you know, it's just I just think it's a it's a piece. Wheeling or Planet Fitness, those are your choices probably to go to the near gym that you can afford. Like if you could go to other gyms in in town, but they cost you $80 a month, $50 a month. Here, you know, I think it's a benefit for everybody. And it's available to the community three days a week at no cost. Tuesday, Thursday, 5 to 7, Saturday, 10 to 12. We used to have a $25 yearly cost. It kind of went

029away with the pandemic. So, if that's something that we want to restate, this might be a good time. brand new room you want. It's actually a good metric for us because we know actually who belongs and who they are. So I don't think the members would have a problem with that either. Thank you so much. Thank you. And also Nate, thank you too. Thank you very much. Okay. Anything else you need? No. Thank you. All right. So at the uh committee board meeting, administration will be asking uh the school board to approve a preliminary budget for the 2025 2026 school year. Uh Miss Charlene Halbert is here tonight to present the monthly update uh on the school budget. So Charlene Okay, the microphone. [Music] Michael, I need help. Plug in. I think we'll go back

030to work. Brother. There we go. Thank you. Thank you, Mike. All right. Good evening, everyone. I'm going to first start with an update just on where we are for 2425. Just a quick update. Um, we projected revenues of 34.9 million. As of March 31st, we were at 29.2. So about 83% of our budgeted revenue has been received. So I'm feeling pretty good about that. As for expenditures, we budgeted 35.9. As of March 31st, we have spent 24.8. So 69.1% of our ex expenditures that we um budgeted. I will say that at the end of March we were at the 75% point of the fiscal year. But I will remind you that our teacher salaries are paid through July and August, which does hit the 2425 budget, not the 2526 budget. So we won't have a

031full picture until after August. Now for the 2526 general fund budget. The first slide here is going to be an overview of what we are projecting for our revenue to be. This is broken down by type of revenue. So you can see taxes. I have also provided to you what we actually received for years 21 through the 23 24 year and what our budget was allocated for the 2425 year. The 2526 we still don't know what the Pennsylvania state budget is. So we are going off of what they have told us to date. So this could change. However, we need to have a proposed budget approved at the May board meeting. So we have to build this budget based on what we know now. So this is what I know now. the total revenues 35.3

032million and I will be very transparent with you that the tax revenue received in here is based on the index going up to what the state has allowed us to take it to. One way to look at our expenditures is by these objects. So, we have objects such as the salaries, benefits, the professional services and things like that. I have given the board members a little cheat sheet that explains every single one of those objects and what they entail. It's not all encompassing, but at least it gives you an idea of what our biggest expenditures are in those groups. Again, I have listed everything that were actual expenditure amounts from 2122 through 2324 and how we budgeted for 2425. Going through line item by line item, we are looking at a $37.2 million expenditure budget

033next year. Another way to look at this is by the function. So the state requires us to list our um accounting codes by function and then the object codes as well. By function, I also gave you a little cheat sheet that tells you everything that is included in those functions. Regular programs is basically everything that is student related, special programs, everything that is special education related and so on. The data is the same. The numbers are the same. It's just a different way to cut and slice it for you to see the numbers. A few things that I will point out, especially on the object numbers. Our biggest increase purchase professional and technical services. Those are outsourced costs to support our special needs programs mostly occupational therapy. Um any type of outplacement that we have

034to do for students that have special needs that we cannot provide inhouse. Those costs are definitely increasing. the number of staff members that we can find even out in that area like special um speech pathology for example or occupational therapy. They're having a hard time finding employees which is driving cost up even more because there's more competition for the same amount of available staff members. Another area that we are seeing a slight increase is the other purchase services and that is going to be our transportation cost. Obviously we have contracts with two transportation vendors and then um a small one with an outside carrier. Those contracts obviously have a slight increase from year to year. So we're seeing an slight increase there. This category also has our cyber charter school in it. So we're seeing

035increase in cyber charter costs as well. We really have no not a lot of control over who enrolls in cyber charter school and obviously if they live in our district we are required to pay those costs to the cyber charter schools. One regular education student cost the district over $14,000 and one special education student cost the district over $30,000 for enrollment. It's in the 500 other perch services on the object slide. Yep. Yes. Yes. Those are their two biggest I mean from year to year. Our salaries and benefits contractually they go up from year to year but this year we're seeing a big jump in our outsourced services and our cyber charter. Just for those of us who are visual, this is just a a pigraph. Our biggest expenditure when it comes to our budget,

03666% really is going to salary and benefits. Our assessment value, as I have told you already, decreased over $14 million this year, which already puts us in a negative as revenue received. That has basically been because of coal assessments and coal depletions. One tax mill for us generates $936,000. That's just taking the assessed value times. 01. That gives us $936,000 per tax mill at the 100% collection rate. We budget 96.25% 25% collection rate, which historically has been about 96.25%. That would then generate just about $900,000 for us. Our act one index again allowed us to go up 69 mills which was actually less than what we could have raised it last year but that would equate to an additional $645,000 total if we had a 100% collection rate. So here's the long and short of

037it and it's not pretty expenditures looking at 37.2 2 million. If we remain constant and leave our millage rate at the 13.93, we're looking at a $2.5 million deficit. You can see all of the others that I have listed here. If we go up even to the index at the 69 mills, we're still looking at a little less than $2 million deficit. I wanted to also just give you uh one tax example. I'm not going to throw a whole bunch of numbers at you, but our median assessed value in McGuffy is $152,300. That's the median assessed property value. So, what that means is there's half that are higher than that and half that are lower than that. At the n at the 13.93 mills, that taxpayer has a tax obligation of $2,121, which is no

038change over last year. Obviously, if we go up to the 14.18 14.18 ms, which is a 2.25 mil increase, they will see an increased bill of $38.7 for the year. Same with the 14.43. If you go up to that, they see $7616 increase for the year. And then if we go up to the act one index, then they'll see $1059 more for the year. Now, this is before any homestead farmstead exclusion. So, homestead farmstead exclusions give those taxpayers who are approved under those programs tax relief. So, it subtracts what our pot of money is. We take our part of the money and we divide it by how many people qualify for the program. We have not received our allocations yet from the state. They are to be out in April. It's April 17th. I don't

039anticipate them being here until April 30th. However, I have the one good news here is that we have heard that those allocations are increasing by as much as 20%. So that would be good because it would relieve some of those taxpayer obligations. In this example, I am using last year's farmstead homestead relief number, which was $374 per applicant that was approved. So on that same 152,300 assessed property, if we go up to the 14.62 mills, their original tax obligation is $2,226. We would then subtract what they are eligible to receive through Homestead Farmstead, which for last year was $374. I don't anticipate it being any less than that. It should be more this year. So that takes their tax liability down to $1,852. A reminder on our general fund, we have categories of spendable, which

040is our unassigned, non-spendable, which is something set aside for a specific reason, and then assigned, again, set aside for a specific reason. The only thing that we truly can spend from is our unassigned fund balance. We have an unassigned fund balance currently of 2.5 million. I say currently because when we approved the 2425 budget, we did so thinking we were going to take $900,000 out of those unassigned funds to balance that budget and to pay for all of our expenses for 2425 to get it balanced. That would take us down to then 1.6 million in unassigned. And as you can see, even taking taxes up to the maximum, we are looking at a $1.9 million deficit. So, we have some work to do. And we still don't know for the current budget how much we'll

041have to take from the UN, right? And we probably won't know that until closer till July because I can anticipate what we're going to be paying for July and August for salaries and benefits. So when we're looking at that, you know, obviously when you're talking about deficit um on page 14, the idea in theory would be that that deficit amount would come from the unassigned part of the general fund. So if you're if you're looking at that, we don't have it there. We don't and we don't know that that that is unassigned is going to be at that amount for the end of this year. Yes, absolutely. So, next steps, um, we are going to have a budget working session. We need to go through some options, uh, moving forward into 2526 and what that

042looks like. We need to adopt that proposed general fund budget at the May board meeting. We need to approve the final general fund budget at the June meeting so that I can have it reported to the state by the July 15th deadline. Last year um we had asked about I know you don't have the numbers yet but the percentage of of those who would benefit from the homestead farmstead tax and it changes every year based on who has applied and I have not received anything from the state regarding that. Will you get that to us if you have it? Absolutely. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. If I understand this right, if we raise taxes to the max, which would be 69 mill, we would still have a deficit of $1.9

043million. Correct. And our current fund balance is 2.5, correct? But we don't know if it's going to stay that, right? You have any idea what I know you don't have a crystal ball, but how much of that fund unassigned will have to go into this year's budget? We had originally said it would be around 9 $900,000. I don't think we're going to use all $900,000. We were fortunate to we had range come in and redo a lease, so we got some extra revenue there. Um we have not spent some money in equipment for this year yet. No, we still have a few months to go in this fiscal year, but I I don't think we're going to use all 900,000. Maybe 500, but I would not say all 900 for sure. So, if we said

044500, then we're down to two. Two million. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. All right. You're welcome. Very good job. Thank you. Thank you, Charlie. All right. Last on the committee this evening is our policy committee um which is made up of Mrs. Rarick, Mrs. Fry, Mrs. Sabert, myself, and chaired by Mrs. Jackson. Um, we've been working once a month uh in that committee and tonight to present policy 006 which is on the agenda for a second read uh is Mrs. Jackson to give us an update. Mr. Jackson, thank you. Um several things. First of all, um typically the process is it's put out for the first reading and during that next month we can get input from you know your you may have people from the community who contact you. You can you know bring it

045to us to the committee um individual board members um provide input. We've had a lot of back and forth among the committee and with the solicitor as well. And then at the second reading, it it is put on the agenda for a vote. That does not necessarily mean that we have to vote. It could go to a third reading if we needed to. Um but that is the idea. We we will not deliberate it until the regular meeting. Um and once somebody makes a motion to approve to approve it um and someone seconds it then we can deliberate about it. um among that deliberation could maybe be a decision that we want to wait. I don't know. We'll have to see where that goes. But just to kind of keep that in perspective. So um

046this is the first one that we've completed. I'm just going to each of you have a copy of the draft. Um some of it was cleaning up some language, cleaning up some um citations that were inaccurate. Um those kinds of things. uh there are some things that as a board we're going to have to um make a decision on too. So if you're looking at page three of the top there, we went round and round and round and round again on uh disqual disqualification, disability, um things like that. Um what we finally as a as a committee said was we would refer back to the solicitor and the solicitor's recommendation is that we go back to the original wording and leave it alone. Um because there are stipulations of disqual disqualification or disability in addition

047to other policies like 004 or for example not too long ago we had a president who had a medical emergency and wasn't able to be here that would be a disability. So what it's a different way in looking at that how that word is typically used. So the recommendation from solicitor is to leave it alone. In the next section in notice um under notice and number one we're taking out the word fiscal because our regular meetings aren't conducted on a fiscal year. The fiscal year is July 1st to June 30th. Um that's budget. um our meetings are um publicized by calendar year. So um we're that's all we're cleaning up there. Next for six and seven, what you'll notice is that the two struck out statements below just became statements six and seven, which is

048where they should have been anyway. So again, one of those areas where we just needed to clean up. Under regular meetings, that second paragraph at the bottom of the page, we no longer have an assistant superintendent, so we're taking that out. Um, and we we're changing the board president and vice president um shall be included in adding agenda items as requested by board members. At the top of the next page is uh where the board is going to have to deliberate and and make a decision under regular meetings. Um what is currently the practice is and that's what option one is meeting shall have two public comment periods one at the beginning of the meeting and one at the end of the meeting the other suggestion was option two one combined would be combined with

049the D at the end public comment period for agenda and non-aggenda items at the beginning of the meeting after presentations and before monthly action items and We'll have to have more conversation about that as a board and decide as a majority um consensus what we want. Along with that came up the discussion about a familiar discussion for many people in this room the time limits on the public participation. Um and there's of course you know lots of differing views on on that as well. So we can discuss that um later when it comes up. Under public participation, we are striking the sentence about a member of the public may express an opinion in a fa in favor of or in opposition to an issue um but may not make negative comments about an individual or

050group of individuals. We're striking that because of first amendment concerns. Um obviously our recommendation would always be to speak with respect and courtesy to everybody else in the room. um but we can't dictate somebody's first amendment rights. So that was the reason for uh taking that out. On page five 3C again just cleaning up language um because you know we don't have an assistant district uh superintendent. So just leaving it the appointing the the district superintendent and supervisory position on page six X and Y um striking the statement removing of a school director and um then you have the the other qualifying statement which is what we're taping if a board member neglects or refuses to attend two success excuse me successive regular meetings of the board unless detained by sickness are prevented by by

051necessary absence from the district or if in attendance at any meeting he or she neglects or refuses to act in his or her official capacity as a school director. The remaining members of the board may declare such office vacant on the affirmative vote of majority of the remaining members of the board. Um, and just to keep in mind that the legal definition of attendance to be in attendance is in a meeting means you can be heard and you um can hear what's going on. So that doesn't necessarily mean you have to be physically present. You could attend remotely. As long as you can be heard and you can hear, that's attended. That's the legal definition. It's correct. That's correct. Um, and then the next one, why striking declaring a vacancy exists in the board by

052reason of the failure or neglect of a school director to qualify? There's a lot of misunderstanding and quite frankly even among board members about what that means. Uh, when we talk about disqualification, um, and so, uh, the next sentence is very clear. If a person elected or appointed as a board member having been notified refuses or neglects to qualify as such director, the remaining members may within 10 days following the beginning of his or her term of office declare said office vacant on the affirmative vote of a majority of the remaining board members remaining members of the board. And to be clear, the those two in X and Y, that's the only thing we're doing is striking the beginning sentences. the rest of that was already there and we're leaving it there. Okay, that would

053be the recommendation. And then we were um adding um D, A, A, and AB. Um removing of an officer of the board. Um and there needs to be a space between Y and Z. Um removing an of an appointee of the board, adopting, amending or repealing a policy or procedure of the board. The next change comes on the next page, page seven in the second paragraph after number seven. Um, cleaning up some language there. The district, not necessarily the board secretary, but the district shall audio and or video record. Nobody really audio taped anymore, and we haven't for a long time. Um and we did want to clarify that that is digitally all meetings and keep for review for six months. And then you'll see the beginning of the next change at the very bottom

054um eliminating the heading discussion sessions and that paragraph and um I think we're keeping I think this is how it was originally if I'm correct just committee. Correct. Correct. Um was how it was. We went round and round and round. to see a group uh in the discussion on this but um we're going to leave it as committee um and then everything else um is moved underneath committee there. Those are the recommended changes from the policy committee um and we'll look forward to uh more in-depth conversation later. Thank you, Mr. Jackson. Uh Mr. Vice President, that is all I have for commission. Okay, so we're going to 10 minutes. So, we'll reconvene at 7:15. Thank you. Meeting to order, please. Mr. Dybert, roll call, please. Here, here. Preser here present here okay uh for prayer

055I would like to introduce Ed Chingle with the tour Christian Dear Lord, we thank you for this day that we can gather here, Lord. Uh especially this time of year, we like to thank you for your plan of salvation that required Jesus to be the sacrifice for our sins, Lord. But we know that he did not stay in that grave and he rises again victorious over death. We pray Lord that you'll be with everyone here tonight that give us the discernment to realize that people had to die for our freedoms together here tonight. Our freedom to govern ourselves which includes this school board. Help us to discern and do good things for the community, for the students, so that this can remain one nation under God. We give you all the praise, all the glory,

056and all the honor in Jesus name. Amen. Thank you. Okay, everybody, please rise for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Uh, an executive session was held this evening at 5:00 pm for personnel and collective bargaining. Uh, oh, okay. U, so chief, do we have anybody for public comment this evening? Mr. Vice President, we do. Call Vicky Jordan, Buffalo Township. Well, Mr. Jordan's coming up. I just want to to clarify. I had a member of the community asked me about speaking on the uh fitness room that was presented. I'm correct in and my advice was it's not an agenda item because we're not being asked to act on the

057GOP. Correct. G you know what I mean one? Yeah. So if they wanted to talk about it would be non I just want to make sure I was correct. Thank you. Vicky Jordan, Buffalo Township. Uh, I just have a few things tonight. I'm a little curious why with all the resignations from the district that we are now all of a sudden posting them as numbers. I think the community should know who's resigning even though we don't get to know why. And I just think it's odd with all the controversy with everybody leaving that we are now posting numbers instead of names. Uh, and I'm going to give you my usual spill you get every year when you're hiring coaches. Will you please consider doing parent surveys before you hire? And I will stand up here

058every time you're hiring coaches and I will say the same thing. I think our input could be valuable um if only you would give us the opportunity. And my last thing for agenda is policy 0006 second reading. Um there has been the suggestion that we combine the two sessions. Uh and I know many of you will be tempted to use that option of one public taking time um because there are those of you on this board who don't really want to hear from the community. Um so I just want to share my two thoughts. Uh one I believe if you make it into one combined time uh you're taking the attention away from the agenda items. The first speaking time has always been for agenda items prior to your vote. I would like to see

059it stay that way. I'm sure because I'm saying that there will be those who vote completely opposite just because it's something I would like to see happen. Um and my second point is um if you combine them and you don't leave an opportunity at the end for community to speak uh we're never going to be able to go into the next meeting having left behind what was done at the previous meeting because anything we're going to want to say that would have been said at the end of that night is now going to be carried over to the next And I know some would like to think that cooler heads will prevail if you make it sit make us sit on it for a month. I will tell you I'm not one of those people.

060The longer you make me wait, the angrier I get about things. So I would just like you to take those two cons things into consideration when you're making a decision on whether you combine them or leave them as is. And I thank you for your time. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. Tiffany Walker, you Well, I wanted to make those comment about your agenda and about. So, my name is Tiffany Walker. I live in South Franklin Donicle. The one comment I want to make about your agenda is your Southank South Franklin. Oh, you can put them both. I have two different Oh, okay. Thank you. Right around the corner for me. Right around. It's really weird. But anyway, um I'm going to make a comment about your gender on your sports. I feel like some of

061your sports are unfair. When does a senior go on junior varsity? What fairness is that to the seniors? Let's say this senior all of a sudden wants to do a sport, but they're not going to be able to play on a varsity because they weren't playing the sport the whole time. Or how about a senior who has played this sport the whole time and never had a chance to be on varsity? I think every senior should be on a varsity team. They're graduating. Who cares? Since when? And I'm going to use this example because this is one of the sports my child choose to do and now will no longer do because of the body shame, the unfairness, and the favoritism. But cheerleading, since when do we go based off a point? Why are we

062basing things off points when they should be based on the grade they're at and how hard they have worked? Why are we reprimanding kids from their grades of last year where they can't play two games the following year? That was last year. Why are we reprimanding in the new year? New year, new start. Correct. How we're getting taught, right? So, I I think we need to look into how things are being coached. Especially not fair to our seniors or even our juniors that have cheered or played football or whatever sport their whole life that have still stand there and be on the JV team when they work their ass off. I have It's pardon my French. I I sometimes don't watch my mouth, but I will put it out there. I get a little feisty.

063I even witnessed it in a youth in youth. My son's plays football. He should have been on the varsity team. Any youth I've seen when they hit their senior year, they're on the varsity team. Wouldn't you know, his whole family came to watch him on his senior night and he didn't get to play once. He had to sit there on the sidelines cuz he's in JV and we want to win a game. Those are youth. Who cares about winning a game? Why aren't the kids having fun? Why are they being reprimanded by these coaches? Because the coaches want to win. I don't give a damn. Just much as cheerleading. This is not a competition cheer. This is a school cheerleading team. You want to have competition? Cool. Have that separate. But as far as the

064school competition team, every cheerleader wants to experience being out on that field at that high school. And I think it's very unfair that especially all of a sudden this year we go by points and not by grade because there is a senior that is very upset she is on the JV team. So I'm here speaking because my daughter no longer wants to do cheerleading because of the unfairness that has been happening in the past couple years. Thank God my son is still wanting to do football even though he's a little pinion and it's all right he still wants to do it. I'm glad I don't want him. He loves football, but I I don't think it's fair that these coaches take somebody who loves something so much and just keeps downgrading or not let them

065succeed or not let them move up. I mean, come on. Juniors and seniors are here waiting to get on the varsity team. There's no competition here. Let them play. Why are we Why are we putting them in categories? It makes no sense. So, you guys really need to look into that really really hard. This ain't a competition. This is a sport that you're going to go out and play, have fun and play. I mean, who gives a if we win or lose? We haven't win, so why can't they have fun? So, I think you guys need to very, very much look into that. And that's all I got to say on that. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Vice President and final impersonian, East Finley Township. I'm going to be the nice one out of all

066of us tonight so far. Um, so I uh definitely would love you guys to consider what these ladies behind me have said. And what I'm going to talk about is a retirement. Um, as a graduate of McGuffy and a former student of Miss Emittio, known to me as Miss Mear, I want to say to you, congratulations on your retirement, and thank you for being a wonderful teacher to myself, my oldest child, and countless other students in the district throughout the years. your joyful spirit, dedication and dedication to teaching and compassion that you presented to present every day for 25 plus years is what makes people like you so memorable. Thank you again and you may God bless you on your next journey. Miss Lamar was one of my favorite teachers in high school and she

067was a great asset to the school and um I hope you guys realize what you have and what is going to be going and I'm just glad to have been one of her students. She made a difference in my life. So, thank you. Thank you. That is all, Mr. Vice President. That's all. Okay, moving on. Uh, item number one, approval of the March 20, 2025 minutes. Okay. I have a motion to approve the minutes of the March 26, 2025 school board meeting as submitted. So, move second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I I oppose. No sense. Motion carries. Okay. Item number two, approval of the general fund schedule of bills. Uh may I have a motion to approve the general fund schedule of bills from March the 21st, 2025 to April the 17th,

0682025. Check number 80617. uh to check number 800753 in the amount of 767 $763,5418 as submitted. So move second. Everybody in favor? I I any oppose? Motion carries. Three, approval of the food service schedule of bills. I may have a motion to approve the food service schedule of bills dated April 17th, 2025, check number 7790 uh to check number 7793 and the amount of [Music] $72,3682 as submitted. So move. Second. All those in favor? I. Any oppose? Motion carries. Uh item number four, uh approval of treasurer's report. May I have a motion to approve the treasures report for the month of March 2025 as committee? Second. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Number five, uh, the GOB series 2021 bill list. May I have a motion to approve the GOB

069series 2021 bill list in the amount of $4,375 as submitted? Second. All those in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. So, donation superintendence report. Okay. Thank you. So, we are asking well um accept the donation for the range resources for $1,000 for transportation to the Bradford House uh for eighth grade field trip for the terms of New Jersey school district policy number 702 gifts grants and donations. So moved second. All those in favor? I. Any oppose? Thank you to Range Resources. That was very nice. Yeah. You sure? Okay. So, uh, under donation number two, can I get a mo we have to do a motion for? Uh, can I get a motion to accept a donation from Dove Contracting for $200 for the middle school penguin field trip for the terms of

070McGuffy School District policy 702 gifts, grants, and donations? So, moved. Second. All those in favor say I. I any of both another thank you to them. Donation number three. We get a motion to accept the donation from McGuffy Choir Boosters. The amount determined. Okay. So, it's an amount to be determined to cover the full cost of the wall rafts for the music/band rooms per the terms of Megy School District policy number 702. gifts, grants, and donations. Second. All those in favor? I I want to I wanted to say something. Um we got to see them when we were coming over and they are awesome. Thank you. Thank you so much. I I really really appreciate that. If you didn't get to see them, maybe they can very nice. Thank you. um with the amount to

071be determined. This is stating that no matter what the cost is, they're going to cover it. Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. So for executive session recommendations number one, uh can I get a motion to approve the settlement and agreement release between McGappy School District, the McGuffy Education Education Association, and employee number 421 as presented? I moved second. Any discussion there? All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Okay, motion carries. Under personnel for retirement, can I get a motion to accept with regret the retirement of Ms. Jodie White effective July 1st, 2025 as for the terms and conditions of the current agreement between McGuffy, McGuffy board of directors and the McGuffy Education Support Professionals? So moved. Second. and we she's been with us a long time. We really wish her all the best for

072me and definitely with regret. Yeah, Mr. Jody White has been in the district for 13 years. She is a McGuffy graduate um and has been the right hand to Mr. Mike Wilson. We wish her well, but I'm sure she'll be missed. She will be. Did we actually vote on it? There's no other comments. All All those in favor I oppose carried. Okay. Number two, irrevocable retirement. Uh can I get a motion to accept with regrets the irrevocable retirement of Ms. Linda Emittio effective at the conclusion of the 2024 2025 school year and authorize the administration to post and advertise if necessary for the position. So moved. Second. Any discussion? I would just like to say thank you to uh Mrs. Ontario. She and I actually started teaching the same time. She has not only been

073an exemplary teacher, but she is um truly a friend to every McGuffy employee, student, she bleeds blue and gold and she uh has carried herself with with um great panache which she will be definitely dearly missed. Mr. Material has 30 years with McGuffy and as Miss Borian had mentioned earlier uh very much beloved by past and present students will be missed. All those in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Motion here. Okay. Number three, irrevocable retirement. Uh may I have a motion to accept with regret the irrevocable retirement of Ms. Rita Ross, school counselor, effective at the conclusion of the 2024 2025 school year and authorize the administration to post and advertise if necessary for the position. So move second. Miss Ross has 29 years in education. Uh 28 of those have been at McGuffy.

074I understood today it was not so I was corrected. Most of her time has been as a school counselor, but she started I remember when she started as a biology teacher here. So yes, also will be missed very much. All those in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Motion carries. Okay. Number four, resignation. I have a motion to accept the resignation of employee number 2448 effective April 3rd, 2025 and authorize administration to post and advertise if necessary for the position. Move second. Any discussion there? Do we know why that the new trend is to put the numbers in instead of their names like previously? That was on my recommendation and I'm happy to discuss it in executive session. Okay. Thank you. All those in favor say I. I. I. Any oppose? Motion carries. Okay. Number

075four. Resignation. May I have a motion? Number five. So, we did not do I'm glad that I [Music] didn't. Okay. Uh so number five, may I have a motion to accept with regret the letter of registration of employee number 2562 effective April 25th, 2025 and authorize the administration to post and advertise if necessary for the position. So move second. Any comments or questions there? All those in favor say I. I. I. Any oppose? Good. [Music] Okay. Number six, substitute nurses. May I have a motion to approve Stephanie K as a substitute as a substitute nurse for the 2024 25 2024 2025 school year retroactive to April the 7th, 2025. Second. I have a question. So we used to source to somebody right who would provide to Right. So I just want to be clear the

076these we're looking at acquiring our own substitute list for nurses. Correct. So we would not be paying an outside agency to do that. One of the things we'll be presenting in the budget is looking at changes for next year. Yeah. which is I think how we used to do it years ago. Anyway, are they are they contracted or no throughout the nurses? Right. But I mean, are they contracted with the nurses with McGuffy? Are they contracted with the district? I'm just not familiar with how they're how they're employed. It's kind of like substitute teachers. You don't really have a contract, but you're on a list, right? So when they they call somebody from the list and that person can either come or not, but they're not there's not a contract. Okay. Okay. Thank you. They're

077not subject to our collective bargaining agreement, I think, was your question. Well, essentially is is our nurse our Okay. Okay. Thank you. All those in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Motion carries. Okay. Number seven, substitute nurse. Uh, may I have a motion to approve Sarah Gratz and uh, Katherine Till as substitute nurses for the 2024 2025 school year pending receipt of all required clearances and act 168 verification? So move any discuss all those in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Okay. Number eight, no substitute teacher. May I have a motion to approve Elizabeth Krauss as a substitute teacher for the 24 2025 school year pending receipt of all required clearances and act uh 168 bar second. Any discussion? I'm excited. She's one of ours. That's wonderful. All those in favor say I. Any oppose?

078Okay. Number nine, uh, addition to the substitute list, a motion to approve Mr. Nicholas Donles for the placement of the 2024 2025 McGuffy substitute para educator and student substitute teacher list pending of all clearances and required documents. Second um, so we can discuss required documents. I'm assuming that would include act 168. Okay. Is he related to Mrs. Bogles? Yes. Thank you. Thank you. All those in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Motion carries. Number 10, additional driver for first student. May I I have a motion to approve Chad Welk as a driver for first student for the 2024 2025 school year pending receipt of all required clearances as presented. Second. Any discussion? [Laughter] [Music] Thank you. Sorry. [Music] And the regular I was just to say and the routes themselves are outside of his administrative

079hours. Actually currently he is first for vans not for buses license for buses. It's effectively before and after. The question was what time did you start? It varies usually 6:30 a.m. What time do they start? It would be whatever it would be um 7:30 and he'd be doing van runs, not us run. So that does take as long. I don't know. But the whole time my children were in school, Mr. Buck Hold and did it. So it must be able to be done. All good. Any other discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Okay. Number 11, rehire head boys basketball coach for the winter sports season. Uh, may I have a motion to rehire Mr. Michael Fatagani as head boys basketball coach for the 2025 2026 winter sports season as

080per the terms and conditions of the MEA agreement and completion of the 2025 2026 respective seasons. In the event of a partial season, salaries will be prrated. So move second. Any discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Carried. Okay. Number 12. Rehire the head wrestling coach. May I have a motion to rehire Mr. Jared Roberts as the head wrestling coach for the 2025 2026 winter sports season. As per the terms and conditions of the MEA agreement in completion of the 2025 2026 respective seasons in the event of a partial season, salaries will be prrated. So moved. Second. Any discussion there? All those in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Number 13, rehire head girls basketball coach. They have a motion to rehire Mrs. Holly Mian as the head girls

081basketball coach for the 2025 20226 winter sports season as for the terms and conditions of the MEA agreement and completion of the 2025 2026 respective seasons. In the event of a partial season, salaries will be prrated. So move. Second. Any discussion there? All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Okay. 14. to rehire the cheer sponsor. May I have a motion to rehire Mrs. Jessica Gump as head cheerleading sponsor for the 2025 2026 fall and winter sports season as per the terms and conditions of the MEA agreement in completion of the 2025 2026 respective seasons. In the event of a partial season, salaries will be prrated. Any discussion there? All those in favor say I. I any opposed? I'm going to stayain motion carries. Okay. 15. Rehire the head rifle coach. We have a

082motion to rehire Mrs. Sarah Florian as head rifle coach for the 2025 20226 winter sports season as per the terms and conditions of the MEA agreement and completion of the 2025 2026 respective seasons. In the event of a partial season, salaries will be prrated. Second. Any discussion there? All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Okay. So on to policy number one. Policy 006. I did the second reading. May I have a motion to approve policy 006 for adoption with suggested suggested revisions? So moved. Second. Any discussion there? Yes, we definitely need to discuss um the options that we looked at. Okay. um option one or option two. So if you're looking at the policy at the top of page four, and again this is for public participation, um the suggestions were either to

083leave it as it is. meeting shall have two public comment periods, one at the beginning of the meeting and one at the end of the meeting. Or option two, one combined public comment period for agenda and non-aggenda items at the beginning of the meeting after presentations and before monthly action items. And just for clarity, the timing is not a policy. It's not part of the how long they have to speak is not part of the policy. That's anything the board can make that determination anytime they want. just part of like a consensus of um how we want to handle that. Um it's been different things at different times. The most recent vote that we had on it um was seven minutes for agenda items and five minutes for non-aggenda items. Um and that's been discussed

084in variety of ways multiple times, but that's kind of separate from the the policy. the policy is just looking at when they have an opportunity to speak. I I like the the two um opportunities because I think it gives everybody the same chance. Maybe they listen to something and then it brought something to mind and I just think it's more open and more transparent to give them two opportunities. That's my opinion. I agree. I think the two um public comment periods was fought for to begin with. um not that long ago and to eliminate it, you know, it's it's just not right to we Yes, it stifles them. Correct. Um I would like to I would like to keep it with the with option one um the two public comment periods. Honestly, I'd be okay

085with I know the time frames aren't in the policy, but I'd even be open to discussing eliminate the time frames this evening as well. Why wasn't the the time frames added to the policy? That's because you don't link you don't tie the hands your hands or the future board's hands with that can change at any time. It's a matter of you probably have better wording for that, Mr. It's a matter of board prerogative rather than board policy. So the board prerogative right now is seven minutes for the first public comment period and five minutes for the second public comment period. And that could be changed at any time, discussed and changed at any time. But that this is just for clarity. Um that wouldn't mean that we couldn't add a time frame to the policy

086if the board would want to. Correct? Because the policy can also be revisited and revised at any given time as well by the board whether now or in the future. I'm just clarifying. Provide provide their policy anytime they want. Okay. Thank you. I personally I would not put the time limit in the policy. I think it makes more sense to have it that way if you want to revisit it. You don't have to open up the whole policy just for that one item. Um, and I I do think that there's something to be said in preserving um the authority of future board members um the prerogative of future board members um and not lock them in by what those of us sitting here tonight may may think. But I also will say, and this may

087shock some people, but I really I like option two. Um, and one of the reasons was kind of hinted at earlier, I do think that there is something to be said for um, having some time to reflect before we speak. Um the one at the end of the meeting for agenda and non-aggenda items um to me seems superfluous um and often creates hostilities. Um I will tell you in my life I go around most of the time repeating James in my head. the book of James, slow to speak, quick to listen, slow to anger, for my own benefit. So, um I think it I that's one of the reasons why I think it would help the meeting flow better. Uh anything that one would want to address there, they could and I know there are

088people who said they would address them at the next meeting. Um and that would be their prerogative, but that's just my view. So what do we just do a consensus consensus vote in for option one and two and then do we motion for an A and a B like does it have to be you can do it either way. Uh right now I've got three votes for two and none for one. So if the rest of the main board just wants to weigh in, I'm happy to keep four over here. Before we do that, for transparency, why don't we put the times in there? So, community members are not going to know what the time limits are if they can't look it up in the policy. I know what the time limit changes any time.

089I didn't create this policy. Well, it would just be whatever the policy committee put forth for you guys to look at tonight. Yes. Which is what I was just asking. How do they know now? Well, they know now because the times are on the agenda, which is available to the public prior to the meeting. You can always throw this policy back to the policy committee and ask them to to revise it, too. Don't don't forget that there's a motion and second on the floor. You should motion to table it. To table it. I mean, there's a lot of different things we could do. I like option one. Option one. Mhm. How did you keep it the same? We had it out, which is option one. Yeah, I think it's option one. Yeah. Yeah. Two times

090to speak. Yeah. So that's five. That's five for option one. Five to keep the same as it is now. That's your majority. So if you vote to approve the policy this evening, uh we will strike option two and it'll be including option one only. So your vote tonight for for policy 06 that that Mr. Thomas is going to call in a moment here will include option one as your revision. Thank you. Any other discussion? Okay. Yeah, I have trying to find um it would be number three. X and Y. I'm sorry. Where are you? Number three. Number three on what page pages on number are they at the bottom? Very bottom right corner. Five. Sorry. Six. Six of eight. X and Y. I would just like to ask the solicitors, is this legal? Yes. So,

091what you're removing is you're actually removing the link um 38 linked policy O4, which is redundant because this is actually the language straight out of the Pennsylvania School Cove. Thank you. And the same for Y. Thank you. Yes, it's both for X and Y. That's straight out of the Pennsylvania school code. Any other discussion? We already have the motion in the second, right? So, it's just all those in favor to adopt policy 006 as discussed. So, just by saying as discussed, that includes option number one. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carried. Don't forget to put a space in between Y and Z. Thank you. Okay. So, number two, policy 827, conflict of interest, says that we do not need a vote this evening because it's just the first reading. Correct.

092There's not a whole lot of change there. U just cleaning up a few things, but anyone has any input, get it to me and we'll I'll get to the policy committee. and we've been meeting the second Tuesday of the month. Okay. Okay. Under business, number one, school van. So, I have a motion to approve the purchase of a 10 passenger 2018 Ford Transit F-150 for $28,750. So, move. Second. Good price. Whoever negotiated it, I'd like them to negotiate my next vehicle. Why am I not surprised? Special thanks to uh Mr. McKe. He actually flew down um on his airline miles to Raleigh, North Carolina. He has two sisters down there. They was able to spend just a little bit of time with and then drive directly home. And now, uh the van itself is being

093currently serviced by someone that he knows in Unionville that does transmission. So, it's going to be better than new once we receive it back. So, again, right. So, thank you, Mr. King. So, shouldn't we reimburse him for a small? [Music] Oh, okay. I don't think we can. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Okay. Number two, transportation routing and management license agreement. I have a motion to approve the annual renewal license agreement between McGuffy School District and Orbit Software Incorporated at a cost of $3,680 from July 1st, 2025 to June 30th, 2026. Second discussion there. I would just like to and if Mr. Wilson would be willing maybe to to explain pe to people what exactly that is what it does. So basically allows me to create routes in the software

094program. Time saver. Yeah. Well, and for for the district as well because that's not time to spend. You can spend it on other things. Thank you, Mr. Escort. Posty notes. Yes, you did. I remember that very clearly. Okay. Any other comments there? All those in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Okay. Number three, subscription renewal Renaissance. We have a motion to approve the annual subscription to McGuffy School District Renaissance at a cost of $16,710.72 from August the 1st, 2025 to July the 31st, 2026. Second. Second. Any discussion there? All those in favor say I. Any opposed? Number four, website renewal. They have a motion to approve the annual website renewal between McGuffy School District and EMS Link LLC at a cost of $6,356 from July the 1st, 2025 to June 30th, 2026. Second website, everything

095is hosted on one that provides the technology for that. Was there any um I always ask this question. Was there any shopping around to see if there was anything cheaper or wasn't really a few years ago we did that when we were looking at different sites we haven't done for this current year. We're very comfortable with it. Um poss Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? All those in favor say I. I. I. Any oppose? Number five, facilities use agreement relay for life. May I have a motion to approve the use of McGuffy Stadium for the American Cancer Society Relay for Life for Friday, May the 16th, 2025. Second. Any discussion there? All those in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? Okay. Number six, the agreement for EQT Park. May I have

096a motion to approve the facilities use agreement for EQT Park with McGuffy School District boys baseball and Washington County Family Entertainment as presented. I'll second so we can discuss discussion there. That's the console park, the wild thing stadium. Yeah. And I think it's Is it a wild thing? I was just gonna ask. I know it had a different name because when it's been presented before, it's been presented as wild things. So Okay. I just wanted to clarify. Yeah. Is this the same thing as Oh yeah. What was it? Was it last year or the year before that there was a lot of controversy about using wild things and it costing so much money? Is this the same thing that was voted on at that time? So this uh this again this year as it was

097last year there is donation for the use of that. So there's not going to be outside money coming from us. two years ago, I believe it was, said that whatever the remainder was that the booers were not able to pay for in last year and this year, there's someone who's going to pay for the entire season. Okay. Well, gee, thanks. Cool. Very cool. Thank you. That goes in as a reported to us the donation. It just said there's no payment, right? Because they'll pay directly to them instead of paying it through us. Now, with the um um with the cleaning charge or the $500 cleaning charge, how would that be handled? If if for whatever reason there would be a charge for cleaning, would that be the boosters that handle that that take care of

098that or is that going to come back to the board for approval or it would be I just don't know how that works to that? I'm not I don't know language that would be there. I would assume, but then I want to do that. It probably come back the district. I would like the motion to table it till we know would be any different than us providing our own cleaning services after a football game which is in the line is in the budget which is what I was thinking like there's money there for those purposes anyway but for our purposes right well but they could if they're spending it for that expense it doesn't really matter whether it's here or there or the expense is the I remember we approved it last month the Claysville

099community park for using we had an agreement. Do I can't recall if did we have to provide liability insurance there? They do. We well the policy reads that the superintendent has the discretion to ask them to provide liability insurance. Miss Albert We carry our own as well. So in this one, we're required to carry my computer. Oh, so I can't certificate of insurance to show fairy. Okay. So is that about math playful part or that's what you were asking about? Yes. I guess I was just kind of questioning if there was an expense for us. Mr. Chuck, how much would an organization be willing to pay for a naming right of a stadium? Are you talking about the Wild State or are you talking about our actually our stadium? Yeah, probably not quite as much

100as the wild. Yeah, exactly. Um, we have different sponsorship levels. 20,000 is what we were hoping to get for dating rights for one year. And we're willing to work with any partners who would like to do that. Um, that we could always negotiate pricing and how long. We don't have one yet, right? We do not. I'm actually in talks right now with um a corporation that may be willing to sponsor the wellness center the weight room and I'm hopeful that that will be somewhere. Um so yeah, we're talking Thank you. All those in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Okay. Number seven, Anderson and Price invoice dated March 31st, 2025. Uh, so can I get a motion to approve the payment to Anderson Price for invoice dated March 31st, 2025 in the amount of $4,500

101as submitted? Second. Any discussion there? All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Uh next administration reports number one of the first one facilities use report. Mr. Vice President um we've had total use of 52 pounds of the building in March. Uh 30 of that is our community primarily youth and youth girls and boys basketball as well as family bingo night at Jul. Okay. Uh number two, the budget expenditure report. So that the budget expenditure report for the month of March 2025 is presented for your review. The cafeteria report, same thing. And the same thing for the PCAR spending report. Uh solicitor's report. The solicitor has no report. Mr. President, Okay. All right. Next one. Western Area Career and Technology Center report. Yes. Um, so the weekly updates are there for your review. Um,

102I did get this week's weekly update today since tomorrow is Friday. Um, but with respect to Sunshine Act, I did not request that it be added to the agenda. So, if you'd like that, I can always send it to you, but it is also found on their Facebook page um which I share everywhere because they're just they're doing great things there. Um we um have not had a meeting since the last last month's meeting that we held. Um that meeting for this month is actually next week. So, other than the weekly report, that is all I have for this evening. All right. Number two, Pennsylvania School Board Association report. Okay. I gave you a uh long list last time and there's really nothing to update. The Safety and Security Board report will be available on

103May the 28th at 10:00 in the morning and it is a webinar. This might be interesting to some of you. They are asking for presenters for their big uh fall leadership conference. It takes place in at one site at Mechanicsburg, but they need people. So if you have something you feel or anybody can present there, then you that's what they are asking for. They're also asking for performers. So if any of you have a comic sideline or something, there you go. um reminder to update yourself on AI and education because there are move there's movement going on there even at the state level. So just kind of keep informed and I'll when they send something I'll let you know. That's really all that I have right now. Thank you. Okay. Policy committee report. Um so

104obviously we completed policy 006 and we passed that tonight. So that's great news moving forward. Um the draft for policy 827 is uh was made available tonight as the first reading. Uh again um if anyone has any questions or um suggestions or anything like that um please get them to me. I'll get them to the committee um and we'll go from there. We're looking at trying to put together kind of like a timeline of policies and in what order we're going to look at them. So, we've requested information from um key administrative personnel uh if to ask if they have any policies that they need looked at um in a particular order and at a certain timeline. Um and then uh we also have some committee members who have put forth um some interest in

105other policies as well. If there is particular policy that any board member would like for us to uh look at putting on that rotation, please get that to me. Um and I'll kind of filter it in. Our goal is to try to get in theory um two done at a time. Kind of working on two at a time. Um sometimes G 006 took us a while. Um 827 not so much. So, and that's just kind of the way they go. Um, but the very next one that we're going to be looking at is a request from Dr. Oberg in relation to actually AI. Um, and uh, we'll be excited to get that to the board as soon as we can. So, again, our meetings are they are public meetings. Um, they are the second Tuesday

106of the month at 4 PM and are currently being held in the conference room in the administrative suite. The one for AI, is that creating a new policy or updating? Well, it's those two, but um Dr. Aber can speak to that. There there doesn't have anything in our policy currently that exists that nothing in our policy right now that has anything to do with AI. So, we need to address that and it'll go along with our subs. So, two policies don't simultaneously. Any else there? Okay. Uh so public comment on non-aggenda and agenda items. Mr. Vice President we call Jessica Peele Clayville Bur and good evening Jessica Peele Claville Burrow. So wonderful to see you all again this month. Um, I wanted to first thank the school board for sponsoring the roaming bean coffee truck

107that we had yesterday before our inservice. Um, I think it was thoroughly enjoyed by all. Um, so that was a wonderful surprise. Thank you so very much. Um, the, uh, only other thing I wanted to touch on uh, this month was um, teacher appreciation month is coming up. I'm sorry, it should be month year really. Um, but it's a week. It's a week. get a whole week. Teacher appreciation week uh is next month, May 9th or I'm sorry, May 5th through the 9th. Um so I just wanted to take a quick moment uh to shout out our amazing staff. Um we may not be a huge school compared to others in our area, but we are mighty and that is in part due to our amazing uh the dedication of our amazing teachers and staff.

108I recently had a conversation with a staff member that shared that she's noticed that in comparison with other large schools and even similar sites of schools um that we offer just as much as if not more than uh some of our other local school districts and sometimes in many instances we do it a lot better. Uh, I believe that is a true testament of the hard work and care given on a daily basis by our amazing staff and users. We are so very lucky here at McGuffy School District to have what we have here. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. We call Tiffany Walker, South Franklin Township. All right, you already met me. So now I'm up here as a very angry and frustrated parent and I'm very disappointed in this district

109and almost and especially you Dr. Oberg. I am very disappointed. You all sit in this seat because we voted you to be in this seat to protect our children to make sure the safety of our children are at hand here. Right. Correct. So can you explain to me your bully policy and how we think it's great and we don't need to change it? Any of you? None of you can explain this. All right. Why are so many kids leaving the school and going cyber? I know why. I've talked to the parents. Have any of you reached out to these parents and go why we have so many cyber kids? Oh, well, you know the biggest problem we have bullying up in this school. Is it everywhere? Yeah, but in this school we don't know how

110to handle it. So, okay, I'm being bullied. I retaliate. I'm in trouble too, right? So, the other day I had the opportunity being the most scared mother of my life. I had text messages coming in from my little boy in sixth grade. Help. These these kids are going to attack me. They're going to jump me. Help me. They're they're surrounded. Can you help me? I called up to the office and asked for one of the principles to go yank him. You know why he's getting teased? Because he chose not to fight back one of his friends. He still got in trouble for it, by the way. Even though he didn't throw no hands, he still got in trouble and got kicked out. My kid's an A and B student love school. Now he's scared. Now

111I'm pissed. My kids should never be scared to come up here at McGuffy ever. Now my kids grades are starting to show for it. Why? What is your bully? You don't think you you think your bully policy is great, Dr. Olark? What are you doing to help these principles with all the riff wrap that happens? What are you doing? Are you going to these schools and helping these principles? I know I've never caught you in one. In fact, the only time I've ever caught you is you sitting back in your chair and enjoying the show between me and Mr. Bonus last year. Instead of stopping when Mr. Bonis said he messed up, did you step in and reprimand Mr. Bonis? No. You said stop back in here. What are you doing to keep these kids

112safe? Cuz I haven't seen it yet. I have not seen it yet. For a parent who has to deal with that from my kid to where when I call up and ask for somebody to go down and get him out of the band room and none of you can go fast enough. Well, not you guys, but you or the principles or one of the teacher couldn't go fast enough. My daughter in high school ran out of her classroom to go down to save her little brother. She come down in that hallway and heard these kids backing him up. Calling him a Calling him mama. Oh, you little snitch. Oh, you let your friend beat you up. Cornering him. There's a substitute teacher sitting on her phone. Oh, there was a substitute teacher sitting there on

113the phone when my daughter walked in here. Okay. He is the smallest kid you got in a school. He is not a punching bag. And I'd be damned if I'm going to let him continue being a punching bag. This ain't right. So if if if any of y'all have a problem with my kids, y'all could pay the tuition for us to go to another school and provide a transportation because I'm not going to put up with it no longer. I don't get it. I just don't get it. Your inschool detention is a joke. Would it sit in this freaking goddamn room? Where am I hurting? Where's my discipline? There is none. There's no discipline. I get to look at a wall. Oh, what did we learn? Oh, we get a free day out of class.

114this kicking out and going to the magistrate. is Straight up You're you're ruining kids' name. Well, we can bring them in together and figure out the problem. Have you guys ever heard of um what you guys should have in your cuz I contacted child advocate and a legal child advocate actually that you would hire out of your own pocket and they asked me, "Do you know what the MTSS coordinator is?" Anybody? No. You do? Good. At least one does. Okay. Do we have one? We do have an MTSS coordinator. We have someone who carries out those functions. Oh, we do. That's not just one person's job. That's actually a group of people. I didn't know if you knew that, but that's a group of people. So, do they carry out the what is it? The

115PDIS1. Uhhuh. One person does. No, it's a team. That's the conversation to have somewhere not here. Why? I just want to know why we don't have this. And that's what I'm talking. I want to know, do we have these kind of coordinators here? You're not going to shut me up because I'm not going to shut up. What I'm saying is, do we also have a conflict resolution programmer here? Do you know what that is? You bring in the parents. You sit down. I ain't never had that option. Now, where's the forms at that these kids can fill out if they're uncomfortable? Because it ain't in the classroom. From what I understand, y'all already been presented with the forms. So, if I come to this next meeting, continue. Are you guys going to give me an

116answer on your bully policy and how we're going to make it better? How these kids can be safe? Why does the victim always got to get in trouble? Am I going to get answers or am I just going to get looked at like another stupid parent around here? Cuz the parents are upset. And whether they want to get time to come up here, I know some of them have kids sports, but I'll be here because my kid is not a punching bag. You understand? I'm not putting up with it. I don't want to go the next step. So, can we take care of this and start making it safe for our school? Can we? Because this is becoming scary and y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. That's the important thing around here. Safety. Yes, sir.

117Sixth grade. I also have a problem in the high school, too, but that is 10th grade. Hopefully, Mr. Bonus will be working with me on Monday with that. But as far as your middle school, it's it's becoming a joke. your high school is too. But y'all look like jokes. You all have kids going to cyber school because they can't stop the bullying and you guys won't help them. This is why we want to move on. Sorry. Oh, I'm so sorry about that. But I I would like answers next time. That's why we're going to help make sure my kids want to put your bag in school no more. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. Christian Florian, East Failing Township. Oh, um Chrissy Florian, East Finley Township. All right. Well, I'm not going to

118be any more nice than her. So anyways, um it has been brought to my attention that board members are texting each other during the meetings, belittling and talking about community members amongst themselves, not giving others respect while they speak, and being unprofessional. My advice is get out of here. Just get out. You are not here for the children. I don't even know what you're here for, but you need to go. If you do not like what I said last month about your decisions you make and how I feel about what you've done, you're lucky it's just me coming up here. I wrote this the day after the meeting. Anyways, um you're lucky it was just me coming up here. And speaking of my discussion and decisions made to take prayer away without any collaboration between

119the board, I think what I've said is nicer than what others have wanted to say. You ran to be here. you put yourself out there and it's my right to question your decisions if I feel it needs be to publicly single out any committee or community member is your right doesn't make it right on your criticism either unfortunately someone is not here to hear that um one of my concerns which we will go again on is food in this building and products that are served I want to start with making it clear that This is not and has not ever been an attack on the people that work here that are just doing their jobs in the cafeteria. I do encourage you to stand with me to get unhealthy, toxic food out of the hands

120and mouths of these children and to care a lot more. Cafeteria workers, I respect and appreciate everything you do. I've heard wonderful things over the years about some of the lunch ladies and about Mr. Demian, how he encourages the children to eat their fruits and vegetables and even rewards the students. Thank you to all of you. But I want to go back on how horrible some of the products we're talking about are. Doritos are an endocrine disruptor. We were talking about the taco bar that you guys had last month. Doritos are horrible with the red food or the food dyes in them. They're an endocrine disruptor. As I just said, we are serving them to these children. I do not think that it is a good idea obviously and I hope that you all you

121all start to reconsider the food that is served here. It needs change. There should not be pop machines in the building. We should not encourage these children to drink pop. And I don't and I hope that in the future they are gone. removed and better healthy options are available. Children don't need to be fixed. The system does. I look forward to the things changing in the near future. You spend so much money on so many different things here. When is the health of these children going to be a priority? Thank you, Mr. Vice President Vicky Jordan, Buffalo Township. So, I'm just going to be real quick on my first thought. Vicky Jordan, Buffalo Township. I have Are you okay? No, I just want to make sure you're okay. Um, I have complete faith in Mrs.

122Halberchalk and that she is going to dig through this budget thoroughly. I will say I don't understand all the ins and outs of capital funds and whatever. Um, but it's hard to sit here and listen to a $50,000 proposal for a wait room um when we're talking about eliminating teachers and increasing class sizes with our youngest students. So, just please do your best to eliminate what you can. I'm hoping this is the last time I ever have to do this. I want to start off by making a statement and then I want to clear a few things up from last month's meeting. It's the only time I ever want to have to go back to last month's meeting. I've dedicated myself to these meetings for over five years, longer than some of you have been

123on the board. My intention is not to be disrespectful, but to try and share a different perspective other than your own, hoping you have an open mind to receive it and maybe give you a different viewpoint that you may have not thought of. Those things can't be heard if you are not listening. I openly admit my delivery isn't always the best, but I'm boiled over with frustration when I see some of the members of our board put their own wants in front of what is best interest of the district as a whole. It's clear some of you will vote for for or against something just to spite another board member because you dislike them. It's sad to witness and highly disappointing. I stood before you all and stated it was your vote and your right

124to put forward who you wanted. Then at the end of the meeting, I was accused of being a hypocrite and uncchristian for calling some of you disgusting following your vote. If Mr. Kern would actually pay attention to who is saying what instead of the whispers back and forth and the notes being passed, then maybe he'd know by who thing by whom things were said. If he did actually listen, he'd know. I never said that. I did not call any of you out on who you nominated or how you voted. What I did call you out for was your blatant disrespect for community members and your fellow board members who spoke and I stand behind that. Your comments at the end of the meeting, Mr. Kern, prove my point. You don't listen. Yes, I found it

125disheartening that any of you would support a candidate who publicly supports trans girls, also known as boys and girls sports and spaces. But that was the decision Mr. Robick and Mr. Leisure and Mr. Vanetta will have to justify when they ask their constituent to vote for them again. It's not something you can hide from or sweep under the rug as the majority of this country disagrees with that mentality. I'd also like to state that Chrissy Florian became emotional over it. She has five young girls. She had every right to express her disgust and that any of you would support that type of ideology which directly affects her daughters. Some of you know I've sat on a board in an executive position for eight years. I've had to sit through my share of uncomfortable meetings as

126decisions made were not always popular. With that said, I've never responded or reprimanded anyone for their thoughts whether I agreed or disagreed. Your job is to sit there and listen, not reprimand the public because your feelings are hurt. I was going to go on and say about the nasty things Mr. Vanetta said to me after the meeting. He called me an idiot. He said text messages that are distracting him at the board were based on texts from other people who wanted to share that I'm an idiot. I think uh it's pretty sad that community members who have dedicated theirelves to this district and come to these meetings have to be treated like that. Uh if he thought he could intimidate me with ugly words, then he clearly underestimates my resilience in the face of hateful

127and unkind rhetoric. I will not be silenced. [Music] really sit here. So you're sitting here looking at not paying attention. Mr. Vice President told Kelly Ziggler. I'm sorry. What township? Hello. Uh my name is Kelly Ziggler from Buffalo Township. Um, I recently sent an email to all of you, but I'm not great with technology, so just in case it didn't get there. Um, I just I wanted to highlight some things. I did shorten it a little, so I don't want to bore you if you've already heard this once. Um, but it's important to me. Um, and I just think that it's important that I make sure that you've all heard this. So, first of all, I would like to thank you for starters for allowing Dr. or Mr. Cybec to adjust the special services department

128for this school year. The changes made have given our McGuffy students tremendous opportunities. Mrs. Han has given the gifted students numerous collaborations and events to promote extension and advanced learning. The autistic classroom, emotional support class, and life skill students have also been given additional learning opportunities and trips. Giving teachers the resources that are needed for a successful classroom has in turn given students what they need to be successful in their development. This leads me to my current concern with the district. I listened to the last schoolboard meeting and how the budget is definitely a concern. Um, ideas were thrown out on how to help the budget and one suggestion was to be more creative, efficient, and effective with our current staff. This comment hit me very close to home because last year the special special

129services was handled in an efficient method and it was far from effective. The creative plan to divide the special service students between four various staff members may have been efficient and effective for a budget, but it would left students without a teacher who could effectively provide success and progress. And I totally get that that was brainstorming at the last meeting and I I get that, but I want to make sure that I state my concern with that plan. I recently saw a posting for a grade five position at Joe Walker and I was excited to see this posting to help the students and teachers have a more appropriate class size there. Following this, I heard that the solution to the problem takes the first grade teacher away from Placeville Elementary School. This would take the

130five first grade classes and divide the students among four classrooms. This is certainly not a solution. This is simply replacing one problem for another. Having five classrooms of kindergarten and first grade has been an essential part of the growth of these students at both elementary schools. These children fall under the early childhood umbrella, which recommends a class size of 15 students. Currently, we're right there with 15 to 17 students in each. This ratio allows children in these younger years of school to build a strong foundation. And with adequate studenttoteer time, these children receive the essential tools for learning and then they're prepared for the larger class sizes as their journey continues. Taking away a teacher from first grade will add to class size and take away from the time the teacher can spend with each

131student to build the basic educational skills they need for their future success. Clayville Elementary School is the largest school in the McGuffy School District. The largest school also means the largest need for substitutes. the greatest number of students are rolling throughout the year and the greatest need for coverage. This should all be discussed when considering taking away a teacher from a school building that is already in need. I have three children in McGuffy School District who need teachers who are consistent, present, and dedicated. And when teachers must cover other classrooms, they're losing their prep needed for their own students. And when there's no substitute, various staff have to fill in. There's no consistency for the children and it results in a day of school that is at least disruptive or at worst a day of

132education is lost. Reassigning and reducing teachers to meet a budget is being done at the expense of the best education. As shared from the board tonight and some community members, we have amazing staff. I am so grateful for the McGuffy teachers and educators who are sticking it out when things are tough. And I thank these teachers for always fighting for the needs of the children. I urge you as a board to talk with and listen to these educators. They have experience and they're on the front lines. They have all of the knowledge. They can help us figure out how to do this right. I recognize that I don't know this budget and I'm not aware of all the ins and outs. But I will end with one question. What budget issues are more important than

133the staff needed to educate our students? Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Vice President, that's all. Okay. Thank you. Okay. On to items for discussion. Anybody have anything new this evening? I do. I have a just for clarification um from the solicitor. Earlier there was a comment made that um from Mrs. describe that she did not um ask to have the this week's um Washington area current technology report added to the agenda for sunshine per uh purposes. It we we could have added that within the 24 hours and not violated sunshine. Correct. Correct. You weren't taking action on it. It wasformational only. You can add information at any time. So it's because it's the point of act 65 is so that the public has notice of things you are taking official action on. So you could

134have added it if it would have been useful for me. It's the principle of not changing the agenda. And that's why I I be clear that there are there are parts of the agenda that you can change that's permissible. That's not a transparency. That's not a violation of of the law. The law is very specific about Right. Right. I didn't say break the law. That was just with respect to the sunshine law. Just to be clear, thank you. Any else? I would like to motion to um have an executive session directly after the meeting tonight, regular meeting. We would just need to know what what topic. So, personnel. Yep. Need a motion and a second. By motion. Right. You made the motion. You need a second. Second. Okay. All in favor? I I'm going to

135ask is it permissible for the board to We're not going to take any official action after. Correct. You're not going to want any official action taken after. So, can we can we adjourn the meeting to to an executive session and we will not return. So, then you would ask for a motion to return. Okay. So, I will make the motion to adjurnn. Motion. Wait, did we vote? Did we vote on the motion for the executive for the executive? I did and it passed. It was unanimous. I didn't hear any nos. I didn't hear a vote. I don't know. All those in favor say I. I. I thought I heard it. Any opposed? Okay. Thank you. Yes. Happy Easter everyone. Okay. Motion motion to adjourn. All in favor? Okay, we're out of here. Yes, by me.