001I don't remember password. It is now 6:21 and let's call the McGuffy School Board of Directors Committee meeting to order. Dr. Ober. Thank you, Mr. President. Good evening to members of the board of directors, administration team here in attendance and uh the audience that we have with us. Uh this evening we have about five items for committee. The first item, we'll do something a little different tonight. We're actually have the middle school student of the month presentation during committee. So I'll ask Ali Waldo to come and make the presentation for our eighth grade student of the month in middle school. All right. Hi everyone. I'm Ali Waldo and I'm the middle school assistant principal and I'm very excited that we get to recognize our student of the month for March and that is Miss Charlie
002Abby. If you want to come up All right, so we're going to show the video that we made and I did want to make a point to say that Charlie actually made the video herself. Um, so she edited it, um, and did all of the pieces here. And you'll see that there's a lot of cool images in the background to go along with the interview. So, all right. Well, without further ado, Hi, I'm Miss Waldo and I'm the assistant principal here at Macy Middle School. and it is my honor to introduce Miss Charlie Aggie. She is our student of the month winner for March. Congratulations. We're so excited for you. Um so before I ask some questions, I just wanted to share what Mr. Panel shared with me when she nominated um Charlie for this
003award. So I'm going to read that. Okay, it's kind of long. All right. Charlie has really come a long way from last year. She's very engaged in her academics. More than that, Charlie comes to my higher nearly every day and she visits with struggling students and helps them with their Alex math homework and ELA missing work. She shows great maturity during that time. She's a huge help. Charlie is also a cheerleader, plays softball on the school team, and as a member of the National Honor Society, works on boards and has asked about helping out with a life skill student. I'm truly impressed with her growth from last year to this year. Well, it sounds like without a doubt you definitely are student of the month and I'm really really proud of you. You should be
004proud, too. Thank you. You're welcome. Okay, so time for some questions. You got six questions. All right, first question. What is your name, your grade, and what are you involved in at school? Um, my name is Charlie. I'm in eighth grade and I am in Girls on the Run, National Gun Honor Society. I think that's it. I think I don't I'm not like in the pride team or anything. Yeah. Okay. Well, soon you'll be in the high school. They will miss you, but there's a lot of other things that you can get involved in over there, too. Awesome. All right. Two, second question. What do you like to do outside of school? Sports or other activities? I like reading sometimes, too. Um, I play out. Yeah. All right. Question three. What does being student of
005the month mean to you? Um, it's really like an honor. Like, I never expected this, especially since like last school year I wasn't as good as I am this year, but it like really means a lot that I got the opportunity and stuff, you know. Yeah. Well, that's awesome. We're we're seriously very proud of you and Miss has told me about like 10 times how proud of you she is. Um, okay, question four. What is your favorite subject and why? Um, there's really a tie between math and ELA. Okay. Um, I'm like I like reading. I enjoy writing more than I do doing the math, but I understand the math a lot better than I do English. And what So, what's your favorite book? Do you have a favorite book you like or games? I
006think we talked about this before. Maybe, you know, I don't know. I like that. Good choice. All right. Tim, what are Sorry. Is there a teacher or a staff member who has helped you a lot this month? And how? Mr. Hannah, she's my favorite. Like, honestly, she's done everything for me that I could ever ask of somebody. Oh, I'm very happy that you have somebody here that you can go to. All right, last and final question. What advice would you give to other students who want to be student of the month in the future? Just be yourself. Try your hardest. Like, that's all you can do. Just give what you can give and you'll like get something in return. Okay. Well, like we said or like I said, we're so so proud of you and
007we're so excited to celebrate you and Yeah. So, thank you. Thank you. [Applause] All right. So, yeah. So, that is Miss Charlie Abby. Just another round of applause for her. Super proud of her and the video she makes. Thank you. All right. I'm not Josh. Are you out there? I'm not seeing Josh. Oh, that's right. Next, we have um our high school student council uh presentation for the month of March. Hi, I'm Nina Henderson and I'm here with a school update. So, the drama club and Mystics deserve a great shout out for their production of Guys and Dolls Junior that was at the beginning of the month. The Marsh Madness pickle ball tournament heads into its third week with several strong students and staff teams all lining up for the coveted title of mech pickle
008ball champion. Employees from Range Resources worked alongside our students in general agriculture engineering technologies and agricultural mechanics to build projects for the annual running of the wolves event sponsored by the Washington County Historical Society on Saturday, May 3rd. Sophomores will take the PSAT on April 22nd, 23rd, and 24th. And with the sports report, we have athletes that have been named all sections from the winter sports are boys basketball, Aiden Cunningham, Sam Stout, and Mason Neoth. Girls basketball, Lexi Ewig, and Taylor Schumacher. And Taylor was also selected for the Round Ball Classic All-Star game. For wrestling we have Clayton Neely, Lane Neely, Tucker Mine, Lucas Bar, Victor Bonis, EMTT Wolf, Reed T Garden, Garrett Newman, and Aaron Sler. Spring sports have just begun and baseball host California tomorrow. Softball defeated Beth Center in their opener and
009boys tennis is 1 and one with a huge roster of 20 players. Track went against South Park and Brentwood yesterday with their away. And that's all I got. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Nina. So next uh the the future ready comprehensive plan. This is the plan for the 2025 2028. Again uh we've met the March 31st deadline which that needs to be submitted. Tonight I'm going to be asking the board to approve the plan. We made the formal presentation of the plan last month. Uh it's been on public display on our website. One of the things that we recognized from the plan and also just in general the way we communicate is we found another opportunity to our information uh for the community to access it in a different way. So what we've created
010uh when you go to our website are four tabs on the left hand side and I'm proud to announce that the newest tab is going to be where we have podcasts. It's called Highlander Echoes and currently we have two podcasts already downloaded. We were going to try to keep them between three and five minutes chunk size. Again, something you can listen to quickly and download. Uh the very first is a trailer talking about our goals for the Highlander Echoes. And then the very first is an actual overview. So, it's about four minutes and 5 seconds. It's actually an overview of what future comprehensive plan is. And then in the coming weeks, we're going to look to uh release. I'm not sure if that's the correct word. Uh but every Friday, we're going to have a
011new podcast there for for you to see what's going on. And again, the right now we're geared towards communicating the plan, but there'll be other things on there from a community perspective, what's going on with the curriculum. It'll be a great place for us to educate and and update. So, real excited about that. But, um, I really again want to make mention that this is a plan that really in earnest started in October of last year. had participants from our administrative team, from staff, uh from the community, from a board member, and quite honestly, the uh work that goes into it, um is carving out time from what we're already existingly working on. So, it's it's definitely a a push, and I would like to at this point uh publicly thank every single individual that
012was part of that plan. This could not have been done without the work you put into both in during school, but even outside of school. So, uh, the board would join me just applauding and congratulating. Thank you. So, uh, with that again, we're going to be asking for the board to make that approval on the agenda tonight. Um, with a budget update, we have Miss Holbert. Get all set up. [Music] There we [Music] go. All right. So, good evening everyone. Tonight, I'm going to give a quick update on the budget. Um, I've removed some of all the timeline stuff because we've already heard that quite uh a few times already. A quick update on where we are for 2425. So again, budgeted 34.9 in revenue as of February 28th. So everything I'm going to talk
013about is as of February 28th. We were at 28.25 and that's collecting almost 81% of our revenue. So I'm feeling good about that. We'll have a couple of million coming in in this month for um subsidies. So feeling good there. For the expenditures budgeted almost 36 million. We have spent as of February 28th 22.5. So, we've used 62.6% of our expenditures and we are about 67% as of February 28th through the school year. So, I'm feeling good about that side of the budget as well. So, I think we're in a good place. Now, let's talk about 25 26 because it's not looking as good right now. Um, as you know, salaries and benefits are our biggest spend. And what I've done on this slide is just broken everything out by the the categories. The first
014column you see is what is in the budget so far for that category. And the number to the right in the parentheses is either representing an increase or a decrease over last year's budget. And they're almost all increases. So the salaries in there are the actual rolled salaries from this year to next year with their step increases. So we're looking at 14.2 2 million in salaries. I will also let you know that there are some positions that will be retiring at the end of the this year. Those salaries at those step levels are still in the budget for 2526. So for example, if we replace a step 18 with a step one, there still may be some savings in this budget for those moves. The benefits I'm still using right now, an estimated 3% increase
015across the board. I'm still waiting on some updated information. I do know the health benefit costs are now increasing 5.7%. We were anticipating nine. So that is a little bit of savings. It's down to 5.7. I will be meeting with ASIC next Friday to get more information on the actual premium cost for all of the various plans. Our purchased professional services budgeting 2.2 million that is up about a half a million dollars. These are services for all of those contracted um services that we provide students that we cannot provide inhouse. Our purchase property services 432,000. These are things for new equipment or equipment replacement. Other purchase services, this is our contracts with our busing with our cyber charter schools. And our cyber charter schools are a big spend for us. So we're up about 384,000
016there compared to last year. Supplies that has also our utilities in that category. So we're going to see an increase there. The property 214,000 that is just our leases with our copier printers, our postage machines, things like that. Other objects and dues. This is the only category where we're seeing a decrease. And that is because our bond interest is paid out of this category. And because we're close to paying off one of our bonds, that interest has decreased a little bit. However, we make up for it in the total financing uses or other financing uses because our principal has increased. So 2.1 million there. So we're looking right now, it looks like a $37 million budget going into 2526. On the anticipated revenue side, our local revenue and all disclaimers that I am using in
017here the maximum amount that we can raise our taxes to which is 14.62 mills. That is a five increase over last year. What I will tell you is word at Capitol Hill is our homestead farmstead relief is going up by about 20%. If ours goes up by about 20%, that's another $230,000 savings that gets passed on to our taxpayers. I will not know the actual numbers on that property tax property tax relief until probably second or third week of April. Hopefully by the next board meeting, I have a better figure on that relief because that relief gets passed on to our taxpayers. So even if we go up in our percent of tax, that taxpayer may still see some relief because of the amount of the property homestead farmstead that gets passed on to them.
018Our state revenue, they're still anticipating a flat funding and we're actually going to see a little bit less in state funding than last year. Um, one reason is they did have an last year built into the state budget for basic educ education funding. That is not in this year's budget. So, we're anticipating a little bit of a loss there. Another thing with this year's state budget, they have about $500 million set aside to put into the ready tolearn block grants. We pay kindergarten teachers with our ready tolearn block grant. We get about 300. They are trying to boost that money into it. However, when they sent McGuffy's preliminary numbers, we had no adjustments the same amount. There's a lot of talk on Capitol Hill about taking that half a billion dollars and instead of putting
019funding. So I'm still keeping an eye federal revenue is down just because I know all of our eser money is gone and of course there's a lot of talk about closes down what's going to happen with our federal coming from the conference that I attended uh last week two weeks ago now are going to the state to do dispersements to the schools how the states figure out their calculations of dispersing is up in the air are they going to keep it the same as the federal did or is there going to be some other type of formula to use so we're still a little there's a a lot of unknowns right now. So looking at all of that, what I know right now, our total revenue is looking like 35 million seven and our revenue,
020we're looking at about a $2 million deficit going into next year and that's with that's with going to the full Yeah. index. Now, next slide. But I think it's important we I took a look at what has happened since 1617 is when they did the whole reassessment of our properties and the tax base changed uh going into 1718. What happened that year? They kept everything flat. So I wanted to look from 1718 forward. What would have happened if there were incremental increases in the millage rates from didn't go to the full index or if we did not make any changes at all. How has that impacted up to this point? So as you see 1718 not doing anything and keeping that tax the same that cost the district $380,000 in revenue. one. I'm not going
021to read them all to you, but you see that bottom number, two over $2 million in revenue has been left on the table because we have not even made small incremental adjustments. And as you have heard me talk about the act one, um the state looks at those wage increases and the wage inflation from year to year to let the districts know what they can increase their tax rate to just to keep up with the salary and benefits increases from year to year. This slide is just going to show you what that deficit looks like if we do nothing. Um we're looking at $2.6 $6 million deficit and then all the way down to if we go to the full we're at a $2 million deficit as of June 2023. This was our fund balance.
022The non-spendable is set aside that we cannot spend. It's for for our outstanding debt. The assigned we have assigned to retirement and healthc care benefits. And then the unassigned is really what we can tap into to help cover our balance. Now again this is as of June 2023. I have been in touch with our auditors for 2324. They are close to having everything done and it does look like we're going to come out on a positive note for 2324. So that will go back into our fund balance, but I don't want to give any specific numbers until they have completely finished their work. Um but again, we cannot tap into the assign just to fill our budget. So I I don't think I have to read all of these to you. You know what's driving
023costs. Our salaries were contractual. We're obligated. We have to pay those. Our benefits um are increasing. Pers is going up only by 0.1, but that's still is as our salaries increase that causes our piecers obligation to increase as well. So now it's 34% is what we're going to pay to piecers for every employees salary. So that's a big chunk of money. Of course, inflation. We're at sitting at 2.8% inflation rate right now, but I've also been in contact with our insurance consultants and our insurance premiums are estimated to go up 20% for our liability insurance. That is going to cost us $40,000 over last year. And then our contracted services, our contracted services are increasing 5 to 10%. our special services. These are things like our occupational therapy and our physical therapy and our speech.
024Um those staff, those positions with these other companies, they're getting harder to fill them. And when we don't have the service in house, we have to go to a vendor because they are competition. They can raise prices and that and we we're seeing that. Um and then our cyber charter schools, you see the numbers right there, 14,000 600 for a regular ed student and over 30,000 for a special education student. And that's the number that has been enrolled throughout this year at McGuffy. It fluctuates as students go in and out, but that's how many we have paid for this year. So, where do we find savings? And you know, our biggest budget item, salaries and benefits. So, 65% basically of our budget goes to salaries and benefits. So we as a district need to start
025being creative, efficient and effective in how we are utilizing the staff that we have and we are looking at that internally. We are going to have some retirements this year because there was an early out option in the contract this year. So we are going to have to take a a look at are there ways to be creative and maybe not have to fill some positions to have some savings there. And then our contracted services Um I'm doing cost analysis to see if we have internal employees instead of paying all for all these services externally if that down the road starts to save us some money. And we need to start looking big picture not just how do we get through one year one year one year. We need to start setting us up setting
026ourselves up to be financially successful four five years down the road. So, we got to get out of that box of we just need to make it through this year and start looking at how do we make uh longevity out of our financials and then programs. Nobody wants to hear about programs getting cut. I know that. But we have to do ourselves the exercise at least to say what is for the diplomas, what is necessary for our students. Um and then just do the cost analysis. I'm not advocating in any way for any program. I would like to make everybody know that, but it is something or higher deficit. Any questions? Thank you. Have one. Um, where does and I just don't recall what what it's for, but the half a million that was found
027in counts. I cannot remember. It was just a couple months ago. Oh, that was our access. Yes, I have. So what that is is we have services and our students receive Medicaid that gets under the school can recruit services because we pay for them, right? Um what had happened is all of that um accumulated the accumulated funds have been sitting in an account and since October of 2021, nobody had been pulling down any of those funds. So now that I found that out, we have corrected that. We pulled down about 100,000 this year to help offset some of our shortfalls this year. What we did is hired another special education teacher down at Clayville. So each class level will have a support teacher for each of those classrooms and that new position is being paid
028through those access funds. And once those access funds if once those access funded or if we don't continue to get them then we'll have to those positions would either have rid of or absorbing. Yes. And that is another um area of funding that is questionable because that is definitely federally funded and I'm sure you've all heard about the Medicaid cuts that they're talking at the federal level. That would impact that access funding too. But we do have 500,000 sitting there that is owed to us. So if not take that back. We just wouldn't get more moving forward. That's the way. Right. If if they end up Yes. We're hoping not. Thank you everyone. Thank you. item for committee this evening involves or addressing the vacant uh board of director seat. Uh we have four applicants
029this evening uh for the open seat that is in district three. Uh tonight we're going to ask in alphabetical order. Uh we're invite each of the applicants to come up. Uh they will have up to two minutes to make their presentation on why they wish to fill the vacated seat. Chief Samky will keep the time. Um, there will be no discussion or questions directed from the board or anyone else to the individuals that will be uh giving us their why. The vote for the open seats and subsequent discussions from the board will occur uh right after this during our regular I'm sorry regular school board meeting. Um, with that in alphabetical order, I wish to invite up first Christopher Chadwick. Again, Mr. Chadwick, you will have two minutes uh once Chief Smi starts the time.
030We're good now. Good evening. My name is Chris Chadwick and I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you guys tonight as I seek consideration for a position on the McGuffy School Board. As a senior leader in the Army National Guard, I've spent my career solving problems, leading teams, and making difficult decisions. always with a focus on mission success and the people I serve. I bring that same commitment with to my community where I excuse me where my wife Charlotte and I are raising our four children. Like many families here, we want our schools to be strong, our teachers to be supported and our students to be prepared for whatever path they choose after graduation. I believe in accountability, transparency, and making sure taxpayer dollars are used wisely to benefit students first. I also believe that
031a successful successful school district requires collaboration between educators, administrators, and parents and the board to create an environment where students can thrive. Whether preparing for college, trade school, military, or entering the workforce, every student should leave McGuffy equipped with the tools they need to need for success. If given the opportunity, I will bring my leadership experience, problem solving mindset, and dedication to this board. I will work with each of you to ensure McGuffy remains a place where education is prioritized. Teachers are supported, and students always come first. Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to the opportunity to contribute to the future of our schools. Thank you. All right. Next up, we have Mr. Carl Group. Two minutes. Good evening. Um, welcome. Okay. Uh, my name is Carl Group. I'm from South
032Franklin Township, uh, District 3. Um, first of all, I'd like to, uh, wish Michelle Lebert, uh, all the best and a healthy recovery uh because that's the reason where there's a vacancy. Um when this opening came up, I talked to my wife and she thought it was a good idea. I talked to the kids and my son uh who's 31, graduated from Guffy. He gave me the look I gave him his whole life, a hairy eyeball. He said, "Why?" And I said, "Well, bud, I I spent 24 years on that school board. Um, I it's kind of corny. I love McGuffy School District. I love the kids. I love the community. I love the the teachers, the administration. I like the sporting events. Um, I have 24 years experience. Um, we did things in 24
033years. Uh, some that were much closing three elementary schools was tough. Uh, we went to East West Finley. were sitting there, all 12 board members, community came in. This lady said, "If you'd give up your salary, we'd be able to keep this school open." And someone told her, "Uh, they don't get paid." She said, "Well, they're dumber than I thought." Sat down. So, we did that. We built the new administration office. We built the stadium. We uh renovated this school. There were a lot of things went on in those 24 years. Um, I know this position for 10 months and I'm willing to give you everything I my experience and all that. Um, so that's pretty much it. So don't give me a hairy eyeball. Thank [Applause] you. Okay, next up we have Mr. Kenneth
034Grove. Uh, chief for two minutes. Kenneth Grove. Good evening. Uh, my name is Kenneth Grove. Um, I've lived in McGuffy School District pretty much all my life, almost 65 years. I'm a 1977 graduate of McGuffy High School. I've got three daughters and a granddaughter who've all graduated from McGuffy. I've got a grandson who's currently in uh, Clayville Elementary. I've got many neighbors uh and friends whose kids and grandkids are still uh attending McGuffy High School. So, I have a lot uh you know, I've been here all my life and I have a lot vested in the McGuffy School District. Um I'm recently retired, 45 years of aviation maintenance. Um, in the past I've served on uh uh the board at uh Trinity Bible Fellowship in Washington, PA as a deacon and also as an elder.
035Uh, currently I am on the board of uh the Washington Christian Outreach. Uh, also a volunteer there with my wife. Um, I would consider it a great privilege to serve the community uh as a board member of the McGuffy High School. Um, I believe that, uh, you know, I would like to see that all kids who are attending McGuffy High School now and in the future would have the same, uh, be afforded the same opportunity and education that I received, that my family received here. Um, and I would like to see that every uh student that is here and will be here in the future uh when they leave here, they've been equipped uh to take on the world with the skills and the confidence that uh that they need to uh be successful in
036whatever they pursue. So, I appreciate your consideration for my position here and thank you for your time. Thank you. [Applause] The final uh applicant is Casey McFarland. Two minutes chief. Hi everyone. Casey McFarland, South Franklin Township. Uh thank you for giving me the time to speak today and the consideration to fill the seat. I have become a regular attendee at these meetings and it's something that I would very much consider an honor to be a part of and to participate and contribute my knowledge to. Um I have extensive experience in the mental health field and I know that's something that can influence not only the students in our district but also the people in this board. Um every time that I've come and speak at these meetings I have shown decorum. I have shown respect.
037I have not called out any single person. I have not done that on the board. I have not done that in the crowd. And that is something that I want to bring to the board and make sure that everybody has collective conversation. We can have a peace of mind knowing that we're all working towards the same goals. I want to make sure that it's not a place where we're divided. We do all have the same goals of making sure every person who spoke before me I agree wholeheartedly that we want these kids to have the best opportunities. So we need to come together and we need to find the way that that works for everybody and I hope that with collaboration we can find community with each other. So thank you very much um for
038your consideration. Thank you. Mr. President, that is all we have for committee. Thank you, Dr. Oberg. That concludes the committee meeting. It is now 655. We will reconvene for the regular school board meeting at 7:05. Before we begin the meeting, I would like to um bring up Pastor Caleb Ramy from the Claol Christian Church. He's going to lead us in a word of prayer if anybody would like to participate in a word of prayer before the meeting starts. Um, Pastor Ramy, hi. How are you all? I want to thank you for the opportunity, the the privilege it is to be here um to to open with prayer. Uh, it is of vital importance that meetings of this kind of caliber are open with putting God first. Period. There's nothing else to be if if people
039are meeting and it has to do with people, you better be putting God first because he's the only one that knows the guidance and direction that's needed to lead people. I want to read a scripture and then I will pray. If my people who are called by my name and this is 2 Chronicles chapter 7 and it's verse 14. And if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and I will forgive their sins and will heal their lands. It was very clear what the voice of the American people was in this last election and that was to put God first. Let's pray. Dear heavenly father, Lord, we humbly come before you. And God,
040I pray that you would enable this group to know and to realize the importance of putting you first, to realize the importance of keeping prayer as a vital part of any organization. Because Lord, when prayer and you are put first, that organization will thrive. And Lord, I pray that you show that tonight. That Lord, this this board having me come and open with prayer that you show them that you are going to bless them for putting you first. Lord, I pray for unity and peace as there's discussion and votes going on this evening. And Lord, I pray that there is love here and that your spirit would dwell here in your precious heavenly name. Amen. Thank you very much. It is now 7:08. I'd like to call to order the Modi School District regular school
041board meeting. Roll call, please. Here. Mr. K, here. Mr. Laser here. Mr. Here. Mr. Thomas here. Mr. Here. Everybody stand for the pledge, please. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. want to make an announcement that we held two executive sessions. One was uh this past Thursday and one this evening at 5:00. Um last Thursday was a five. Today was a 5:30. It was to discuss personnel and collective uh collective bargaining. At this time, we will take public participation, public comment on agenda items, Mr. President. Oh, Vicky Jordan, Buffalo Township. Thank you, Chief. Hello everyone. How are you on this wonderful Wednesday evening? Okay, so just real quick, I'm going to keep this short
042tonight. Um, I was just curious about the accounts payable position. Is this going to be an additional payroll cost in addition to PL replacing Hartsell or will it remain one and the same as before? I mean, clearly by our budget, we should probably to replace her. So, that person will do payroll and okay, I don't have to do that one because I have another opportunity to talk on that powers school renewal. I see that there's been an increase. I'm just wondering uh what steps they've made to do better protection on the site since we all know they got hacked and a lot of our students information was released. So, I hope you guys are asking questions about what they are doing um in regard to their security moving forward. And the last thing I'm going
043to say tonight is um it's your vote and it's your rights to put forward who you want as nominations for to fill this seat in the interim of the voters doing so. That's all I will say in regard to that is who you nominate and who you elect for this or not elect, who you place in this seat will speak volumes to you as individuals on what you want for this district moving forward. With that said, I'll talk to you on agenda. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Chief Wayne Vanderhoff, Donable Township. Thank you, Chief. All right, members of McGuffy School Board, my name is Wayne Vanderhof. I reside in Dono Township. I'm a member of the Claysville Area Business Association. I'm the secretary on the board and I'm addressing the school board
044uh because we have an agenda item. Uh we are uh requesting the use of the Claysville Elementary School parking lot and uh the associated grounds on Friday, May 16th in the evening is set up on Saturday the uh and Sunday May 17th and 18th for the National Pike Festival. Our plans are to have the National Pike Festival through based in the center of town uh but then spread out through town uh and a very specific uh kids area at the school uh using the parking lot and the uh playground. We're going to have um stump tank um bounce houses, inflatable games, vendors, crafts, uh for and food vendors specifically for the uh kids um besides all the other stuff that we have through the through the town. So, um we're requesting an exception to the
045school board policy uh because we're we're asking to use the playground in the facilities on uh Sunday. So we understand security is required uh to be provided by the school for a fee and if it's needed janitorial services are provided uh through the school for a fee. Both we agree to to pay as necessary. We are acquiring event general uh liability and our pipe festival. for the last three years since we started it back up. We do have a annual general liability policy for for the contact with the responsibility for that uh rounds if we get uh we're going to do out live bands, concerts, vendors, food vendors uh again all centered in the center of town. We also are having a contest to redesign the national go. So that'll be something that that that
046level will be used at the festival for 2026. We also are having the wagon train Claysville on Friday. Plan to be in the in the general area of Clayville Elementary School 10 10 o'clock. That'll be confirmed later or closer as it gets there. But that's that's what we're doing. Uh so we are requesting the use of the school ground. So thank you very much for the uh for allowing me to ask you and and get you familiar with our request. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Jessica. Thank you Lesville. Good evening, Jessica Peele, uh, Clayville Burrow. Um, I wanted to talk tonight on agenda items I2 and I4. Um, that would be the resignation of supervisor special ed. Um, my boss, this one's going to be a little tough. Um, I wanted to thank uh,
047Dan Cybach for all of that he's done for um, Muffy School District and our special education program. Um, he's brought back our gift program. Um, I shouldn't say brought it back. He brought back a gifted teacher. Um, he has, uh, brought in an autism support classroom at Clayville Elementary, an emotional support classroom at Claysville Elementary. Um, which has seen remarkable uh, gains for those students. Um, so he's a huge loss. We're deeply going to miss uh, Mr. Cybach. Um, but I also wanted to uh touch I4, which would be the hiring of the new supervisor of special education, u, Mrs. Kelly and Mate. I ask that you please approve her. I think she will be an amazing supervisor of special education. We know her. She knows our kids. She knows our families. I think it'll
048be a wonderful, smooth transition. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Last, Mr. President Chad Thomas, Donal Township. All right. Good evening. Chad Thomas, Donagle Township. Uh, I'm going to provide comment on why I believe we should start the school board meeting with prayer. I'm going to read an article by historian David Barton. If anyone would like the references for the points made in the article, please let me know. This is not meant to be a critique on teachers or administrators. It is more about the system as a whole. Proverbs 1:7 says that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge. This verse affirms that all knowledge begins with the fear of the Lord. But for some inexplicable reason, many Christians today interpret it as applying only to spiritual knowledge. While this
049aspect of knowledge is certainly included, the verse does not combine itself only to that area. It says knowledge period. Strikingly, for nearly four centuries, Americans believe that the fear of the Lord was the beginning of academic knowledge. For example, America's first college, Harvard, was established in 1636 and its rules declared, "Let every student be plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to consider well the main end of his life and the studies is to know God and Jesus Christ, which was which is eternal life." John 17:3 And therefore lay Christ in the bottom as the only foundation of all sound knowledge and learning. And seeing the Lord only giveth wisdom, let everyone seriously set himself by prayer in secret to seek it out of him. Proverbs 2 and3. Everyone shall exercise himself and reading the scriptures twice
050a day that he shall be ready to give such an account of his proficiency therein. In 1642, America's first public education law was passed, the old deluter satan law, which explained, "Indeed, one chief project of that old deluter satan to keep men from the knowledge of the scriptures, as in former times in 1690, America's f first public school textbook was published, the New England primer. Reprinted frequently for the next two and a half centuries, it was a common text from which the American students learned to read. Prominent in his first grade textbook was the rhyming alphabet. A in Adam's fall we send all. B heaven to find the Bible mind, C Christ crucified for sinners died, etc. It also contained more than 100 questions including ones such as which is the fifth commandment? What is
051required in the fifth commandment? In 1779, when chiefs from the Delaware Indian tribe brought George Washington, three youths, to be trained in American schools, Washington reaffirmed that fear of the Lord was still central to American education. Commending the Chiefs for their decision, he told them, "You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and more and happier people than you are. Congress will do everything that they can to assist you in this wise intention. By George Washington's own words, what youth learned in America's schools above all was the religion of Jesus Christ, that is the fear of the Lord. In 1789, the first federal law to address education was passed by Congress. signed by President George Washington.
052Article three of that law directly linked religion and public education together, declaring, "Religion, morality, and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged." The founders believe and in this first federal education law acknowledged that schools and education systems were a proper means to encourage the religion, morality, and knowledge that were so necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind. This philosophy of education continued well into the 20th century, a fact demonstrated by courses taught in public schools in Dallas, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Little Rock, and other districts across the nation. those courses, a Bible study course of the Old Testament and a Bible study course of the New Testament counted towards graduation in those schools. Lesson one in the New Testament course
053begins by having students read John 1 and then answer questions such as where was Christ before he was born on Earth? What titles does John apply to Christ in this chapter? Why is this no longer in practice today? Because in 1962 and 1963, the US Supreme Court ruled that after 320 years of the fear of the Lord being central to America's educational philosophy, it was time to make a change. That was time for public education to become completely secular. The difference between the two approaches had been dramatic and measurable. For example, following the introduction of the new educational policy excluding the fear of the Lord, academic knowledge plummeted, evidenced by dramatic decline in collegebound student scholastic aptitude or SAT scores. Furthermore, in numerous recent international academic competitions, American high school students regularly finished last, near
054last, or in the bottom half of the students in math and science testing. In fact, one recent international testing found that although American elementary students performed above average when compared with their peers in other nations, junior high students performed only at average, American high school students finished at the bottom, well below average. Another measurement reflecting the change is that of illiteracy. Only a few decades ago, America was one of the world's highest had one of the world's highest literacy rates. But it now ranks a dismal 65th in the world among its nearly 200 nations. And a number of third world nations currently post higher literacy rates than the United States. Yet, on the other hand, testing results routinely demonstrate that students who participate in faith-based education, whether in home, Christian, or parochial schools, score several
055grade levels higher than their counterparts in public school on the same academic tests, regardless of demographic locations or socioeconomic stratus. And those students also score 40 points higher or more on the collegebound SAT test. The American education educational system is indeed learning from the harsh experience that scriptures are accurate and that the fear of the Lord is indeed the beginning of knowledge including academic knowledge. Thank you. Thank you. Is that it, Chief? Yes, sir. Thank you. At this time, I call for nominations for the school board member to fill the vacant seat for the ensuing year. I nominate Kenneth Gro. I nominate Casey McFarland. I'll make a nomination of Carl Group. Any other nominations? I'll take a motion to close the nomination process. Motion. I need a second. Second. All in favor say I. I.
056I. Opposed. Stain. Motion carries. We will do a roll call vote around the table. Yeah, it's open for discussion before we vote. If you if anybody would like to discuss, now is the time to discuss. If no one would like to discuss, we'll take a roll call. Miss Cyber, Miss Fry, Kenneth Grove Mr. G Mr. Casey McFarland Kenneth Grove Mr. group. So, we require five to fill the seat. Five votes to fill the seat. The recommendation was to take the lowest vote getter, take them off the list, and revote. Um, I I guess what we can do is we can try to roll call the vote again and see where we're at. They're tied. So, I guess it I'm sorry. Just waiting for Mrs. Fry. That's okay. That's okay. Mh. Kenneth Cro, Mr. Casey McFarland.
057Jingle Kenneth Grove Kenneth Gross Mr. Gudge. Well, once again, it's it's you you need five votes to fill the seat. Um we can take a 10m minute recess. the board can't discuss it. If if they think coming back might change their minds and and revote it. Otherwise, we'll have to leave the seat open. I would like to make a motion. I would like to make a motion that we drop the two lowest vote getters. I second that motion. You can certainly do that. It's not the way nominations generally work. Um All right. And it's challengeable. I'm just saying that it's challengeable. I I don't know whether a court would say that nomination was valid or not because that's not the way nominations generally work under Robert's rules. So, you have a motion in second discussion.
058We we would they there's the the motion on the floor is to drop them and then you would revote it. So then you would vote yes. You would vote yes or no. It would be a yes or no vote. It would it would go to court. Yes. Correct. Correct. So the motion on the floor right now is to drop Miss McFarland and Mr. Correct. We're voting either yes to drop them or no not to drop them. Correct. Roll call. All right. Any more discussion? Yes. The motion on the floor is to drop Miss McFarland and Mr. Group as the two lowest votes as the two lowest votes. That is the motion. So, you're either voting yes to drop them or no not to drop them. I have a question before we do that. um with
059last month when it was advised that it was the board's prerogative on how we move forward and we were given the option of how we do this and I know you gave your recommendation of this is how it's done elsewhere. Why is that now challengeable? I'm just curious. No, because you're not dropping the lowest vote getter. You're dropping two. I just that's just not the way nominations are done. However, Mr. Vanat is absolutely correct. The next vote would be a motion to appoint Mr. Grove and then that's a yes or no vote. So after this after this vote I'm just confused on why last month it was up to the board's prerogative on how we did this and then because we're doing it the way we're doing it now it's challengeable. I'm just saying I've
060never seen someone drop two little bottom two vote getters fry. That's all right. I in in my experience I've never seen anyone do that. That's all. Okay. Thank you. Any further discussion? [Music] Miss, roll call, please. Mr. Correct. Correct. Mr. No, yes. [Music] Yes. Yes. No. The four time that the vote fails. So, I'll go back to what I said before. You can the board can take a 10-minute recess. Again, the board can't discuss this if they think that their votes will change when they come back. Otherwise, we can reconvene next month. My vote's not going to change. I It's just It's just an option. I thought we only had so many days to fill it. Your 30 days is actually already expired because of the postponement the meeting. At this point, you do risk
061the fact the the opportunity for someone to come into common police court and request the CP. Okay, we can move on. Now, I would ask that we vote again. The original vote. I would vote I we vote again. Roll call. This is just for the Miss Jackson to be clear. You just out of the three. Casey McFarland Kenneth Grove Grove Mr. I'll draw my name. Thank you, Mr. Group. Thank you. Um, who made who you made the nomination for Mr. Group? Yes. Withdraw your nomination. I'll withdraw my nomination for Mr. Group. So with the options being Kenneth Grove or Casey McFarland, you would have a roll call on that, please. Missing. Kenneth Grove. Mr. Thomas. Kenneth Grove. Miss Kenneth Grove. Kenneth Grove. Casey McFarland [Music] Grove Mr. Grove. Congratulations. [Applause] You will take your se
062you will I will have to take your seat. I do need to square you in if you would be if you would come up here please. All right, raise your right hand and repeat after me. Okay. I do solemnly swear or affirm I do affirm that I will support obey and defend support and defend the Constitution of the United States of the United States and the Constitution of this common law and I will discharge my the duties of my office of my office. Thank you. Welcome. [Applause] Can I suggest we take a few minutes break while we get him set up on the computer? Let's take a five minute recess. Mr. Grove, that's Mr. Leader. Do we have a motion to take a fiveinut recess? I make a motion take a fiveminute recess so that
063Mr. situated and get up on the computer. I need a second. Second. All those in favor say I. I 5 minute recess 7:35 All right, let's reconvene at 7:40 p.m. um where we left off. Again, congratulations, Mr. Grove, and welcome. At this time, I'm going to take nominations for a vice president. I nominate Chad Tolman. Like to nominate Mr. Barnick. I would like to nominate Mr. Vanata. [Music] Are there any more nominations? I need a motion to close the nominations for vice president. Need a second. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Abstain. Motion carries. Roll call vote please for vice president. Same rules. Same rules. Same rules. Chad Thomas. Chad Thomas. Mr. Leureer. Mr. Barney. Chad Thomas. Mr. Thomas. [Laughter] Mr. Barnick. Mr. Robick. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Chad Thomas, Mr. Thomas,
064you can you can stay there for this anything if you'd like. All right. Need a motion to approve the minutes of the February 20th, 2025 schoolboard meeting as submitted. Need a second. Second. Any discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. The abstaining. Motion carries. Um the minutes from the policy committee meeting from March 4th, 2025 are attached for your review. Need a motion to approve the general fund schedule of bills from February 8th uh February 18th, excuse me, 2025 to March 20th, 2025. Check number 80486 to check number 800615 in the amount of $986,85023 as submitted. Move second. Any discussion? All those in favor say I. I I anybody abstain? Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the food service schedule bill dated March 20th, 2025, check number 7788 to check number 7789
065in the amount of $64,45014 as submitted. So move. Second. Any discussion? I just want to say um my my kids are coming home and talking about the different options that are being made available to them. Um my youngest came home excited. He's going to get fruit smoothies now at Joe Walker. My daughter saying that it's supposed to be coming to the high school as well. And I just want to say thank you for that becoming an option and I look forward to more additional healthier options being available. So thank you. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I I opposed abstension Mr. 701 motion carries no and I talked about it and his abstensions are because he doesn't have sufficient information to vote. I need a motion to approve the treasurer's report for
066the month of February 2025 as submitted. So move second. Any discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Okay. All right. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the GOB series 2021 bill list dated March 20th, 2025, check number 211061 in the amount of $1,300 as submitted. So move second. Discussion. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed? Motion carries. Need a motion to approve adding prayer to the monthly agenda as an item of business. I'm going to move this so that we can discuss it. So, so move. Okay. I Okay. I make a motion to amend the motion to be as follows. Give me just a second. Make a motion to amend the motion to read a motion to approve adding prayer to the monthly agenda [Music] um by a minister or pastor
067of the district's community churches per recommendation of our solicitor because it has become a community topic of interest, not because it is an actionable item. I second that motion. I'm looking interpret second on the floor is to amend. So yes is to amend and no is to not. Any discussion before we vote on? Just to be clear, the reason for the recommendation was um to be more in keeping with what our original conversation was that it be limited to prayer led by uh pastors and ministers of our district community churches. And secondly, because I want to make it clear that nothing that was done prior was done incorrectly. It's just simply because the solicitor has recommended this because it's become a community topic of interest, not because we did anything wrong before. I didn't. Okay.
068So, you have a motion and a second to amend, right? So, we need to take a roll call vote to amend to amend it. Correct. No, you could do um you can do voice vote to amend. All right. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed 72 three no one 621 didn't get okay 621 621 All right. So the motion will be amended. The motion will be amended. Do you want me to say that one more time? That would be great. So, the motion is a motion to approve adding prayer to the monthly agenda given by a minister or pastor of the district's community churches and per recommendation of the solicitor because it has become a community topic of interest, not because it is an actionable item. discussion. Yeah, discussion. Who would like to start?
069So, we are discussing um Miss Jackson's motion. Anyone? I would just like to say that um I left last meeting under the impression that the solicitor was going to ensure that this read a certain way and the ball was dropped. I was not I did not give you a motion to put on the agenda except for I would have to relisten to the meeting and no one when this meeting fried just just in fairness when this agenda came out two Fridays ago if you would have given me a call I would have been happy to listen to it and been happy to make a recommendation to amend it but I don't create the agenda. I would I would say that Mr. Miss Dr. Oberg and Miss Cyber do create the agenda. So if there was
070a problem with a motion, I would have been happy to address it at that time. It was stated last month when this was brought to the table and I quote, "Motion needs clearly to be stated as business vote for transparency only." And when Miss Shingle was casting her vote to decide on whether or not to have it on this month's me or this week's meeting or Yes. Sorry, I'm mixed up for last week's meeting being cancelled. You had mentioned, if you allow me to correct the motion, it will say that. Well, I don't create the agenda is is what I'm saying, but it was the initiative that should have been taken either by the superintendent or the or the secretary, but also you because you you stated that you would make sure that it was
071done. Okay. I don't stating that. If I did, I do apologize. If I would disrespectfully say I think the point is moved at this juncture. We were able to amend it. I understand. I think points need to be made though because I'm very unhappy about a lot of things that have happened. So that was my only discussion. I appreciate the motion going through. Thank you. Um, any more discussion? I would like to say I I might be in a small minority by speaking this, but I think we as a board have wasted a lot of time discussing this when our attention should have been more on the school district business at hand. And I'm going to be glad after this vote that we can put it behind us one way or the other so we
072can move on because I think we've wasted a lot of time that didn't need to be wasted on it. Um it did not have to be done. Correct. It was a waste of time. So what happened? Um with that uh we will roll call the vote unless anybody else would like to discuss it. I am voting on the amended motion. Yes, that's all we're voting on. I'm just making sure. Yes. Mr. Yes. Mr. Barnett. No. Mingle. Yes. Mr. Thomas? Yes. Mr. Van? No. Mr. K? No. Mr. C. Mr. Grove. I'm sorry. Yes. 63. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the future ready comprehensive plan for the 25 to 28 school year as presented. So move. Second. Any discussion? Yeah, I just had a question. Dr. You said it was um it had to be
073submitted by March 9th. The plan. Okay. Yeah, that's that's right. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Abstain. One. Motion carries. 801. Need a motion to accept a $200 donation from Range Resources to benefit the gifted program for the terms of the McGuffy School District policy 72 gifts, grants, and donations plus you. So move. Second. Any discussion? Thank you. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed? Stain. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the donation of materials from Price Boys Fabrication LLC totaling $89723 to be used for the McGuffy High School Bots IQ competition team. Second discussion. Thank you to them. All those in favor say I. I opposed. Motion carries. Okay. Thank you. Need a motion to approve the addition of the McGuffy Middle School student forum license plate
074frame fundraiser to lift for the 2425 school year. So move second discussion. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. I need a motion to accept the resignation of employee number 2422 with regret effective no more than 60 days from February 25th, 2025 and authorize the administration to post and advertise if necessary per the position. So move second discussion. Yeah, when I looked at this earlier, I didn't see that say authorize administration to post and advertise. I could have easily overlooked it, but I would recommend that we don't advertise and post um until the next school year. I think we could fill this position with a substitute at a much lower rate and with the current budget situation, that would be my recommendation. Mer, is this for um item one under item two?
075Item one. Mr. Leer, um click on the executive content there. I'll make my comments to the second one. Okay. All right. Thank you. Any other discussion on this one? You good, Mr. Vanetta? All right. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Abstain. Motion carries. I need a motion to accept the resignation of employee number 421 effective March 18, 2025. Second discussion. I think I already had that discussion. There you go. Yeah. Any other discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Oppose. Opposed. Abstain. One. Abstain. One. Uh. Motion carries. No. 711. It's okay. It just breathe last week. Need a motion to accept with regret the your revocable retirement of Mr. Andrew McBth teacher effective at the conclusion of the 2425 school year and authorize the administration to post an advertise if necessary for
076the position. So move second. I would just like to thank Mr. McBth for his service to the district. He's been an exemplary teacher in the years he's been here um and a good um friend to his colleagues. Thank you, Mr. McBth. Any other discussion? I would just like to concur. Um Mr. McBth has been an unbelievable high school teacher and be hard to replace. Thank you for your years of service to the government. Thank you. All those in favor say I. I [Music] oppose one. Motion carries. 801. I need a motion to hire Kellyanne Mott as supervisor of education. Mate mate. hire Kelly and Mate as supervisor of special education at salary of 97,500 pro-rated and per the terms and conditions of the McGuffy School District compensation plan for school administrator supervisors July 1st 2021
077to June 30th 2026 and pending receipt of all required clearances act 168 verifications and medical exams moved second discussion just want to say welcome back we're glad Good to have you. Yes. Sorry, I spelled your name wrong. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Stay one and 801. Dr. Oberg. You on? Yes. Okay. Um, it is with pleasure and it's a unique honor to introduce a familiar face uh back to McGuffy Schools. Um very familiar face for many especially if you were in Clayville. Uh Miss Kellyanne Mate have to come up. So just a little bit of background, Kellyanne has 25 years in education. 10 plus of those were actually spent as a special education teacher. Uh she has her undergrad from IUP in elementary education with a dance minor. I didn't recognize that
078before. uh her masters of education is special education focused and that is from CO University of Pennsylvania. Also she has her K12 principal certification from COU and another area that we were very pleased to see she has a supervisory or special education from the University of Pittsburgh. Kellyanne comes here not just well qualified but um from a a kid perspective she's going to be you just phenomenal for kids for staff uh for the entire district. So again, I'm excited to welcome you back. [Applause] Or I can um those words are very meaningful and I just want to extend my heartfelt thank you. Um this opportunity to serve in this role is something I'm very looking forward to. Um it's an honor to return back um to a community that I I hold very dear. I
079am familiar with the students, the community, and super excited to be part of the continued growth. Um, Dan Syak, you know, I was part of his rebuilding process, and it's amazing to watch what he's done in such a short amount of time. He has very big shoes to fill, but I'm a dance minor, so I'm not afraid to use my feet in a positive way. Um, either way, um, as I step into this role, I'm reminded of a very favorite movie and a favorite quote, but there's no place like home. Um, it was a situation and a feeling that was always here while I was here. So, I'm very excited to be back back home and I will commit myself to working tirelessly alongside to the community, the staff, the students, and I will support
080where we need to go and what we need to do to thrive in this situation. So, thank you very much and thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome back. Welcome back, Miss Monte. Need a motion to hire Gage Bloom as a custodian subject to assignment current assignment high school 3M to 11 p.m. and pursuant to the terms of the collective bargaining agreement and pending receipt of all required clearances, medical exams, and act 168 verifications. So move second. Any discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Opposed? Abstain. All right, he's good. Okay, he's good. Need a motion to approve Mrs. Debbie Butterfield to attend the Pennsylvania School Nurse Association conference on March 22nd through March 23rd of 2025 and State College PA and an approximate cost of $96,560. So move second discussion. Yes. I just
081think that the community needs to know that it's a retroactive approval due to the postmod of last week's meeting which was beyond anyone's control. So, I appreciate Miss Betterfield making the concessions she did and uh just thought the community should know that. Additionally, um does the lodging need to be does that need to be amended to be removed? Yeah, it says approximate cost. So if there's no cost then Oh, no. I'm sorry. Yeah, under the public content. Yeah, I I'll motion to amend the public content to remove lodging and and the $340. I don't know if you need to do that because the recommended action it says approximate cost of 965. Correct. You can amend it. I mean we can amend it if we have to. I mean but I think for clarity it should
082be but that's my own opinion. See this my understanding is the background information is exactly that. It's just background information for us. It's not actually part of the motion. Right. The motion is an approximate cost. An approximate cost. So that cost doesn't have to be 965. It could be lower. Right. It's not enumerated right in the motion as to what that cost includes. That's just there for our information. I see. Okay. Do I need to withdraw my motion? We we'll take that as your withdrawal. Okay. Thank you. Any more discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Oppose. Abstain. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve opening an accounts payable position due to the retirement of the current staff member. Discussion. Um just to clarify with um what Mrs. M. Jordan was asking about it's
083going to be a replacement. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. So we'll need Right. Right. Okay, thank you. Any other discussion? All those in favor say I. I. I'm sorry, Ken. Mr. Laser, I'm sorry. I was under the impression he was going to do something different here, but [Music] Okay. Um opposed same. Motion carries because I think we already voted I think we did. Yeah. Need a motion to approve Paulie Sweeney, Marsha McConnell, and John Oak as a driver for stu first student for the 2425 school year pending receipt of all required clearances as presented. So moved. Second. Discussion. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. I need a motion to approve Tiffany Shelly as a driver for GGNC for the 2425 school year pending receipt of all required clearances as presented. Second
084discussion. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the tenative agreement between the McGuffy School District and the McGuffy Education Support Professionals 2 PSA NEA for the term of July 1st, 2025 to June 30th, 2030. So move second discussion. Does this need to be a roll call since it's a contract? It depends. If there was if there's any there was any votes, I would call it unanimous. Any other discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. One extension. Motion carries. Policy 006 is there for the first reading. And just to be clear of process. So the first reading is exactly that. in there for everybody to re review and if they have input they need to give it to whom? The policy committee you Yes. And I
085need to name a policy committee chair. I can do that at this time. Okay. I would like to get it out of the way. Um so I need to name a chairperson for the policy committee. Um Miss Jackson, I'm naming you as the chairperson. So, if anybody has suggested edits, they need to get them to me and then I can give them to the rest of the policy committee. Is that how that works? Okay. Thank you. Are we still on discussion? I can't remember. I'm sorry. No, we're not. We're not voting. So then I guess I I would just like to ask that we continue with consistency with the policies. I know in the past we've been told first readings are for the board only. Now we're allowing for the public to see this one.
086I would like that we ask I would like to ask that we keep keep them public for all of the readings to be honest with you. If if that would be okay. I would appreciate that. I know the community would appreciate that. Thank you. Uh just quickly, does the solicitor have any thought? I thought they were too. I have been advised multiple times that first readings were board only. They're report only for discussion purposes. No, only viewable for the public. That is what I have been advised. I'm not calling anybody out. I am just saying. Okay. That's what I would just like to I would like to see consistency is what I'm getting at. All right. Thank you. Need a motion to award the generator service contract to come in sales and service for a
087period of two years at a total cost of $14,988.66. This is a 12% increase over the previous contract. So move second discussion. I don't see how we can go without it. Yeah. Were there any I mean I don't I know I always ask you were there any other options lowest price. Okay. Thank you. I guess probably more to come increases. Sure. Sure. Sadly. Any other discussion? All those in favor say I. I. I. Opposed extension. Yeah. Yeah. Need a motion to approve ABC Fire Extinguisher Incorporated to do the annual inspections on the district fire alarm systems for a total cost of [Music] $3,739. This is a mandatory yearly inspection. So move second. Wow. That reflect Yeah. So that's a $1,268 savings over last year. Good job. Did we have a second? Yes. Okay. Any other
088discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Stay. Motion carries. See a motion to approve the software license renewal for P school as the district's student information system at a cost of 26,000 $979.93 for the 2025 2026 school year which is an increase of $1,99851. So move second discussion. Yes. I am very concerned about a lot of the edtech that we have, not just here, everywhere, but um I know Power School is currently involved in a class action suit from last year that was filed, to my knowledge, is still ongoing. Um them and another edtech company are are accused of selling thirdparty information and then of course we have power school being hacked. I am very concerned about what we are putting our our students at risk of with all of this. Do we
089know other than offering two free years of um the checks the whatever it I can't even think of what it's called now um to those who have been affected credit monitoring. Yes. What do we know? Has P school done anything to upgrade security anything like that? because I can tell you the email I received simply said there's no evidence that social security numbers we're access okay there were individuals and they received notific There is nothing the student number through the student number with power school. [Music] What was the number they gave us? It was 90 countries. Oh, I don't think I don't know that you guys dated back to 2009 when I graduated. But correct me if I'm wrong. We use this to provide maintenance support, hosting, online professional development. There is not personally identifiable
090information as far as social security numbers or anything like that. Correct. There any other personally identifiable information? There is other person right and share information about students internally about grades discipline um background information include their address phone number contact number that's what every school uses to keep that information they're kindergarten through 12 I will say it will cost hundreds of thousands of of dollars to do a total revamp of our student information system and we would have to have that up and running by July 1st to start the new school year and it's linked to sorry it's linked to Oh yeah and I'm sorry and I can't speak to specifically what they've done but you got to keep in mind this is one of the largest information systems in the world uh when this happened
091um they definitely made some changes to the ways in which um they conduct their business. Um so again that's that's their business is student information. I know there was a lawsuit that was brought up but if I recall correctly nothing ever came of that as far as the selling there was there was this idea that they were selling student data. Correct. Isn't it still in the courts? To my knowledge it was never California has the circuit court in California has not ruled on the motion to dismiss. Right. Okay. That's what I thought. But it hasn't moved any farther than that. But it is pending a motion to submit. Correct. So it's just sitting. But correct me if I'm wrong and and maybe Mr. Wilson can talk about this too. As Miss Hubberchock said, we could
092spend hundred thousand hundreds of thousands of dollars to change software companies. It doesn't prevent somebody from hacking that software company. And I understand. I do. That's just the day and age we live in, unfortunately. I mean, it's just a constant battle. It is. And to and to be clear, it's not just this company. I mean, worldwide, we have seen an increase. That's why if you all of you probably have many accounts that are now calling for um MFAs, multiffactor authorizations. Why? Because this has become such a worldwide issue for everyone. Correct. Securing data. But it's our responsibility to make sure that these things are not just coming. Is there a way that we can get from power school what they changed to ensure like whatever happened like you know that was major that was major
093change that had the way the actor got in everything all monitor that was that was Okay. It It just amazes me that something so large worldwide wouldn't have already done that, which makes me feel like there's some carelessness there. But that's a personal opinion, of course. Um I I just it's just very concerning to me because I I know I know Dr. Dr. You said that there's, you know, we don't provide social security numbers and that they just get a student number, but their emails specifically state that they obviously collect social security numbers from somewhere. And so it it is very alarming to me at some point. I I don't know that sometimes it'll include that language just to make sure they're covering all their bases, not necessarily because that information. So let me explain.
094There are fields in powers school that we could put social security numbers in there. We do not do that, but other schools may do that, right? I I form letter that goes out to all of them. Yeah. No, I I absolutely appreciate that and I appreciate that being conscious to McGuffy to not dish that information out. So, I appreciate that. Um, I I think that's all I have for discussion. It's sad to see that it, you know, goes up and all of that in price, but maybe further discussion. Thank you, Mr. T. I think there may be more on our end, right? I mean, is there I don't know. Well done. There you go. Great segue. Yeah. Thank you. All right. Um motion second vote, right? Yep. You have All right. You're good. All right.
095All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. 801 at 8:18. A motion to approve the three-year agreement for Ethernet dedicated internet, also known as EDI service 1000 MBTS, including DOS unlimited protection between Comcast Business Communications LLC and the McGuffy School District in the amount of $1,380 per month pending review and approval by the district solicitor. Done. discussion. This is going to sound like an odd question considering we were just talking about safety of data, but how is this in the budget or is it in the like where did this? Yes. So, we get some of this refunded to us through our rate application. What we have added this year is the DDOS which is about $450 more per month that we will be responsible to pay that portion of it. But what that does is
096it gives us another layer of security. So people can't hack into our system and it's in the budget right now. Thank you. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Opposed extensions 801. Miss Cyber in a motion to approve the use of Clayville Elementary School parking lots and other areas by the Claysville Area Business Association during N during National Pike Day, excuse me, May 17th and 18th, 2025 pending facility use approval. So move second. Discussion. I have a couple questions. One, am I understanding Mr. Vanderhood's um request that they are asking for the board they're asking the board to give an exception to the policy for use of the playground. Is that correct? Yes. Yes. Is that am I understanding that correctly? Okay. Go ahead. I was going to say that um we
097we've been talking along with Craig McKe. Uh typically this would be something that I could actually give approval to because this is something I wanted to make sure this was unique. I can see this being a long-term partnership uh with festival in years to come. So I wanted the entire board to be aware of where we're going. So then my follow-up question is just basic liability. Now, I know in the policy it covers that if requested, they would have to provide liability insurance. Um, and that typically falls under the superintendent's discretion. So, that's just my biggest concern is should something happen, you know, you know, how's that stand with liability within especially with them using the playground on Sunday, right? I believe and I believe actually you spoke to about liability, right? Event liability. Yeah,
098that was all I had. Okay, other discussions. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed? 801. Motion carries. Thank you, Mr. Vanderhoff. We look forward to partnering with you. We have actually reached out everyone that know that we have also helping volunteers in this endeavor. So, looking forward to work. Need a motion to approve the recognition of the McGuffy tennis boosters as per school board policy 915. So move discussion. Uh I'm assuming they've turned in all the required paperwork to be recognized. Yes. Yes. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Opposed? Abstain. Motion carries. If 90 need a motion to approve the usage agreement between Clayville Burrow, represented by Claysville Playground Association and McGuffy School District for a 5-year term March 20th, 2025 through February 28th, 2030 as presented. So move. Second.
099Discussion. This is the same contract we passed, correct? For we use this for uh softball and baseball, middle school baseball, correct? Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Oppose. Abstain. 801. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve the client services agreement between Voliant Health LLC and McGuffy School District for the 2425 school year. second discussion. Um, is this I'm trying to remember. This is the telepractice services. Okay. Is this something we've had before? And it we have not worked with them in this case before actually going to be providing speech therapy to our students using our Chromebooks. Um we've had a very hard time finding a speech problem. Will they be um during school hours or will it be okay? monitor with the students. Ah okay. Okay. And again one of those
100areas where it's not just here. I mean we've as a the um state had troubled with uh speech service providers for years. When I asked Charlene because hope learning center if you remember in August we renewed that contractor speech therapy occupational therapy but she said the speech therapist did you said okay and that's the way it is even intermediate unit can't keep speech therapists they just move from one place to the next any further discussion all those in favor say I oppose abstain 801. Motion carries. Need a motion to approve payment to Andrews and price for invoice date of February 28th, 2025 in the amount of $5,235 as submitted. Second discussion. All those in favor say I. I. I. Oppos. 801. Motion carries. Uh Dr. Oberg, the facility use report. So use 51 uses the
101past month by community primary involve youth wrestling, boys and girls basketball, cheer boosters, and trackers. The budget expenditure report for the month of February 2025 is presented for your review. Cafeteria report for the month of February 2025 is presented for your review. The PECARD spending report for the month of February 2025 is presented for your review. And for those of you new to the meeting, PECARD is your credit card. Is there a solicitor's report? Madam solicitor, there is no solicitor report, sir. Western Area Career Technology Center report. Miss Frog. Yep. We would have had our meeting this evening. Um so I did not attend my um backup. Um but the weekly reports weekly updates are there for the view. They also can be found on their Facebook page as well as directly on their website.
102Um it's great facility and I encourage people to um to go and check it out. They're open to, you know, walking through and seeing what's going on. Um just contact them, let them know you're interested. Um they have multiple times mentioned other districts as well as how McGuffy has done in the past where we have held a meeting there. Um if anybody's interested in that, we could always talk about that another time and get with them and schedule something. Um but other than that, I have nothing new. Thank you, Miss Troy. Pennsylvania Schoolboard Association report. Miss Shingle, um I'm just going to give you a list. These are the current things that are available to um for any of us that are interested. Most of them are on site. Okay. The um AI symposium that
103is really a hot item right now. They're trying to look at how we can protect students and still make it something valuable in the educational plan. The spring legal roundup which is going um some of those do have webinars. If you're really interested, there is something you can watch. you can't participate, but there are something that you can watch. Ethics act webinar that's going to have your right to know things. Those are big and offered in two or three different locations. None of them are close to us. Um spring advocacy day and these are all in April and then uh no spring advocacy is moved to May now. And then um legal professional webinars May 21st, National School Symposium. This one's clear out in Missouri, but it's a Pennsylvania one. That to me, seeing God,
104that's June 25th through 27th. And then the big one, the uh PSDA leadership conference in October. And and the other thing that they're really emphasizing, please take part in the mini courses 10 minutes long and you do get a lot of valuable information and they do keep updating those. Those are all online so you don't have to go anywhere to do those. That's really about it. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Fry and Miss Shingle. Those reports, we will now take public comment on non-aggenda and agenda items. Chief, Mr. President, we have four. First call for Casey McFarland of Franklin Township. Thank you, Chief. Hi, Casey McFarland, South Franklin Township. Um, I'm not going to take up a lot of time today. I just want to highlight that the decision on the prayer um did include
105the language that it was only ministers or pastors within our district and it is extremely common for people to travel outside of their school district or their local area to attend a place of worship and those places of worship can span outside of Christianity. So there is a disappointment that we cannot hold a space for that here as well. Thank you. Thank you, Miss McFarland. Jessica Peele, please vote. Thank you, Chief. Hi. Uh Jessica Peele, uh Claysville Burrow. Um I just wanted to highlight some of the wonderful things happening here at McGuffy School District. Um Claysville Elementary uh recently um I guess kind of had a great opening of our new playground. Um it was uh purchased completely on 100% donations which is wonderful thing. Um as another thing I wanted to touch base on
106um our school volunteers that we have here in the district. Uh we have so many so much support from our community, from our parents. Um we wouldn't be able to do so many things in the elementary schools uh should if we didn't have our school volunteers uh like field trips the playgrounds for example um uh assemblies uh the greenhouse to Joe Walker. These things would not happen if we didn't have our amazing community that uh gives donation after donation after donation throughout the year. Um so just wanted to give a shout out to all of our amazing school volunteers. Um, we recently had our kindergarten registration at Joe Walker and Claysville Elementary. It was wonder cool to feel of all of our future Highlanders. Um, the pictures on Facebook that they have the kids signing
107like little agreements. Uh, it was adorable. Um, I also wanted to add to Mrs. Bry's comment about our food uh services. Um, I recently got to enjoy the builder burrito bar that they offered up here at the middle school high school. It was delicious. it might have even been better than some of the chains out there. Um they do do that often where they'll come up with uh different things uh to in uh entice the kids to try new things um and just give them more options. Um so and that I didn't realize about the smoothies. So that's really cool. I might have to try one of coming your way. Uh, and then again, um, on donations, um, I don't know if you're aware, Claysville Elementary, I I don't know if Joe Walker does or
108the middle school and high school do, um, we have something like care room. It's where students have access to this anytime they need to go get um, toiletries, uh, clothing, shoes. Um, I think they even store um, extra supplies of little um, food bags. Um, and that is 100% um, run 100% on donations as well. Um, so I just wanted to thank everybody that donates and supports our school in that way. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, Chrissy Florian, East Finley Township. Chrissy Florian, East Finley Township. Um, everything Jessica said was wonderful. She is the light to my darkness at these meetings lately. Um so I think it's wonderful everything that she brought um up front to everybody. Um I want to start with saying thank you Chad for all of the uh positiveness
109for about prayer today and to the pastor for the words and um prayer before the meeting. Uh, thank you to all of those that voted for prayer before the meeting. I am disgusted in those that voted no. Um, I am saddened that I voted for two of you and I will pray that someone with better judgment replaces you. You have disappointed many of us in the community. No doubt. Congratulations to Mr. Grove on filling the vacant seat for now and to uh Chad Thomas for making it to the vice president's seat. Congratulations to both of you. Um I will be praying that the Republican candidate wins in May and I will be encouraging my friends and family that live in Morris in South Franklin Township to vote for them. There is no place for left-leading
110liberal disgusting ideology in this school. Those sitting here that just voted for that is a shame. Um, I wanted to bring it to your attention a situation that seems to be ongoing in in outside of the lunchroom from what I've been told and asked to address from my child in the elementary. Apparently, before entering the lunchroom, students in this in a c in a certain classroom are made to stand in the hallway until all of the children can settle down and walk into the lunchroom calmly. Due to this happening, the whole class ends up punished and usually at the end of the line, not allowing sufficient time to finish their lunch, they are rushed to eat and are not able to finish their lunch completely. This is this has been going on the whole school
111year pretty much that they don't have enough time. The garbage cans pushed up to them for them to get rid of their food and they had just got their food. So, not quite sure what's going on there. Um, there have been complaints of favoritism being blatantly obvious obvious throughout the classroom from a certain teacher. I do not in any way condone favoritism of any sort. Children can feel the difference when teachers treat the students differently. The fact that some of you cannot be respectful to members of the community while speaking during public comment and are talking amongst each other, not paying attention. And the flirtatious behavior between some of you is absolutely gross to watch. And many may I remind you that you are recorded live and for all to see. Knock it off and
112be more professional. I think it's time for a new solicitor. She's become a distraction to the president and she is upsetting board members. Thank you. Vicky Jordan, Buffalo Township. Okay. Vicki, Jordan, Buffalo Township. Um, I'm just going to bring it to everybody's attention yet again after last month and me asking you all to please stop changing the policy meeting dates. It was done again in March. Now, keep in mind, I'll give you credit. You advertised it. You put it out there, but we changed it. We paid for advertising and the person who requested it didn't show. We wouldn't have even known that they weren't coming had somebody on the committee not reached out to them. So for again, I'm going to ask you all to please stop changing the advertised policy meeting. You put a
113date to it. Leave it as it is scheduled. If you can't make it, ask somebody to come in your place. You're all confident and capable of being there. I really wanted to end this with some pause positivity, Mrs. Peel, wherever you are, she leave us. But I'll tell you, I'll go negative and then I'll end positive just because I want to. I with Chrissy agree to sit out there and have a board member come up here and stand and speak and also be a community member and have particular board members either playing on their phone. Mr. Vanetta is doing it now because he doesn't like listening to me. Uh, I know. I get it. It's obvious. And then you have three heads of the table chatting it up while Mr. Thomas is having a conversation.
114I really think you need to be more respectful to those are here who are speaking for you. I mean, Mr. Vanad is out the door. He doesn't really care. So, that's pretty obvious to all of us. Um, on a positive note, I would like to thank Miss Berdine, Mr. Wise, and Chief for um making it possible for parents to opt out of the safety drill today. I believe those safety drills are important. Um but I also think that parents should have the ability to opt their younger students out. Uh my grandson will do it next year. We didn't feel it was appropriate this year because he wants to save the world. We didn't think he'd get the right message. Um, so I wanted to make sure I said that. And I would also like to
115recognize Mrs. Pber talk tonight. Uh, the work that you have put in to the finances and looking for where you can save a dollar and where you can't. The only thing I'll ask from you is don't get caught up in the in the money too much without paying attention to the ties that are associated with it because a lot of the time, as you all know, we can get a nice dollar bill, but it's going to cost us something that maybe we're not willing to give in on. So, I appreciate you speaking on the um federal monies. There's been a lot of fear-mongering within the community that we're gonna lose title one funds. Um, and until this all happens, I really think the people in the community that are doing that should stop stop the
116fear monitoring. Let's see how this plays out. I know that um it's been stated those funds will not go away and it's been said very vehemently that they won't. So, thank you for all you're doing, Mrs. Hoverchock. You're you impressed a lot of us and it's a good look. We need it. Thank you, Mr. President. Final is Mr. Randy Poland, Donagle Township. Uh, thank you for letting me uh do this. Um, Donal Township and I'm also a supervisor for Donal Township. I wanted to say um thank you um to all of you members here. I've been in public service I guess three years. I'm a greenhorn compared to most of you. So, but I do appreciate your time and effort and uh probably your your anxiousness and decision making. Um I've been encouraged that there've
117been a lot of um scripture made here tonight which is really cool. Uh, one I would add on behalf of the anxiousness is um in Philippians 4 to be anxious for nothing but in all things with prayer and supplication with thanksgiving. Let all of your requests be made known to the Lord. And the peace of God that transcends all of our understanding will guard our hearts and guard our minds in Christ Jesus. If any day and age we need someone to guard our heart and our mind, it would be in today's world. And um I don't think that um uh on your comment um Mr. Kerman, good to see you here and glad you're doing okay. Um I don't think that anyone has wasted any time in prayer on your behalf and anyone's behalf. Um
118for this year, so thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. That concludes Mr. President. Thank you, Chief. items for discussion. I have one just as a general comment for the community because as Mrs. Jordan had made mention of, there's a lot of rumors out there about what changes to the federal department of ed may or may not mean, but I had um a couple calls last week um with people concerned about the school lunch program. So just for everybody's knowledge, the school lunch program, the national school lunch program has never been in control of the Department of Education, the school lunch program is um overseen by the Department of Agriculture. So it's again just one of those things out there that's not true. Um so I would just like everybody to kind of keep that in
119mind and keep in mind to verify things that you're hearing. And I don't necessarily mean verify by Facebook. Um and uh we'll all tra traverse this this time together whatever comes. I would like to um I I had a call actually about the facilities use policy um and how that would you know how somebody were to go about doing that. of course directed them to where they should go um and and how to go about that. And um it was brought to my attention that um I don't remember if it was Joe Walker specifically or Joe Walker and Clayville that neither are used for um facility use by the community. Um, my understanding is that it used to be because of a lack of security, but there's potential now that there could be more security
120for that. Is using the Joe Walker facility or the Clayville Elementary facility something that is able to be used by the community if if there were to be security present and do we have the staff to do that? That that's the biggest thing. I think so. So under the policy for uh facilities use that is a possibility but um there are a couple things that I shared. One of course is staffing. Yeah. Um and then there's also there's a liability that they would have to give us to use the facility. So there's there's a dollar amount don't have in front of me right now that they have to um be able to guarantee. So it's not just as simple as hey can we use the gym Friday nights or the weekend. That's always been the
121stumbling block, right? is having personnel there and then having it so that if something were to happen to that person, you know, the district's responsible, so we have to have that. Yeah, understood. Okay. I was just curious. Um, my next comment, whether we discussed it or not, it's up to the rest of you. Um, I would like to comment about the authority of the board president. Um the board president and this is per our our school code. The board president has authority to presside at any meeting, call special meetings at any time, act as an executive officer when directed by the board, shall execute any and all dees, contracts, warrants to tax collectors, reports, and other papers pertaining to the business of the board, and shall perform such duties as the board may direct and
122as pertain to his office or her office. Um, originally I agreed there was a waste of time with with the whole prayer incident. I have felt from the moment that the decision was made not to hold it that it was outside of your authority. Our solicitor has not spoken up about that. But that is what our PA code says. And I I would like for all of us to be held accountable and that's what I'm doing. I understand that we can't just willy-nilly reorganize, but that is an option on the table if bad behavior continues. Thank you. That's all. Any other items for discussion? I have one. Uh yeah. Hi, Mr. Leader. So, when we started this meeting earlier tonight, we have several community members that stress to this board to vote with their heart,
123vote with their conscience. So, these same members get up to the podium at the end and criticize even saying disgusting how we voted. Not only is it contradicting, it's uncchristian-like. Now, just because I didn't vote to have prayer during a meeting doesn't make me a non-Christian. It just my beliefs is separation of church and state. We can argue all you want, but to call me disgusting and other board members disgusting because of how we voted after you told us to vote with our hearts is disheartening. So, hey, you had time to talk. This is my time to talk now. All right. Hey, you can stop talking or we're going to have chief remove you. This is our time to do our business. Now, I do believe we have wasted a lot of time that we
124could have settled this months ago, but it is settled now. We need to concentrate on district business and getting this district back in the right direction. And I would hope that community members and us can work in harmony to make that happen. That is all. Mr. Leisure, we had the FFA presentation a while ago, couple meetings ago, meeting ago, but um I was just wondering if that's something we couldn't do on a quarterly basis or something. have one of their officers come and just give us an update like the high school student representative or something. I mean, I don't have to be on the agenda or anything, but just it's my understanding that's always an option, right? They can always come in. That's always an option. Maybe we send an invite to them to let
125them maybe we should inform them that they're always invited. Yeah. And let them come at their will. I mean, I don't think we should request. Right. Um, the other one is, um, I've asked this before, but is the Glazesville playground open to the public 247? We've discussed this before. I know, Mrs. Peele. We just had all these donations for all this playground equipment. I I'm sorry. I'm going to interrupt only because Mr. Kern just finished reprimanding another member of the community because she was trying to discuss something with him. So I don't feel that it is fair now to engage in discussion with a another community member. Well, you may not feel that way, but I'm going to do it. I I'm going to call you out on that because you want to do that
126because you feel that she is going to validate what you have to say. No. And he he had the opposite because she wasn't validating what he was going to say. either either this is a time for the board or it's a time for interaction with the community. Maybe Mr. Laser if I can just find a common ground maybe without interacting. Thank you. I was trying to ask a community member what her opinion was and I have no idea what her opinion might be. Um, but I would like to hear what the community would like us to do with that playground because it is not the school district's equipment. It's the taxpayers equipment that paid for all that stuff. We had the same issue um about roughly 10 years ago whenever the stadium was locked up
127tight as could be and nobody could get in and out of it. Well, the community paid for the stadium and it was probably over a year's period of time and a lot of discussion, we finally decided to open the stadium so people could come up and walk around and exercise because they paid for it. Um, by us thinking that Clayville's playground is school property and only be used at school time, I totally disagree with it. Um, so I will ask questions of the community for next meeting so that I'll have the answers to those. That's why I wanted to ask her opinion. Well, and perhaps to get a a broader view of the community, maybe we could send out some kind of a survey or something. I don't know. But I do think the when
128we've had this conversation before, the biggest concern has been liability. Correct. Correct. Yes. Is that property and I think until dus. Well, I was just going to ask that. So, what's the difference then with having the stadium open for it is limited time. It closes at dusk. I believe that it it's locked up. So, what's the difference there for the liability? I just was curious because I'm not I don't necessarily disagree with Mr. Leer. I just was curious. Whereas at the school there's generally more security around. Is that the case? You don't know. Well, if maybe we could get answers to those questions. Okay. Would that be a good enough start? Mr. Le is Joe Walker because the playground actually doesn't have that to it. It is accessible. Mr. Leisure, is that a good enough
129place to start? Um, I guess it's a good enough place to start, but I just think that it should be open for the uh community who paid for it to uh use it whenever they feel free. I believe we have a security cameras and enough things that we could catch vandals. At least I would hope we would. Um, I understand the vandalism, but unless the community takes on ownership of it, it will be vandalized. If they don't feel like they own it, well, then maybe that's why it's vandalized. I don't know. I would much rather see the kids playing on our playground equipment than getting involved in gangs, drugs, and all the other things that nobody wants. I would hope. But um you rarely see kids outside anymore. Um and it's unfortunate but um no
130that's that's it. Any other items for discussion? I will take a motion to adjourn the meeting. Motion second. All those in favor say I. I. Oppose. Motion carries. Meeting closes at 8:54