001We're good. Great. Good evening everyone. I'd like to call to order the September 16, 2025 work session to order. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisy and justice for all. The public is hereby advised of the audio and video recording of this meeting for purposes of rebroadcasting. All board members are in attendance with the exception of Miss Alustin and Miss Shondaanda. We'll now move to recognition of guests and schedule speakers. Dr. Zerby. Thank you, Madam President. This evening, we have a number of guests and scheduled speakers. We're going to start with Assistant Superintendent Dr. Jason Serjini with a quick uh verbal update on the Ottabon Elementary School property. Dr. Serjini. Thank you, Dr.
002Zerby. And good evening, members of the board. I'm pleased to provide an update on the sale of the Ottabon Elementary School property. On September 3rd of this year, a public hearing was held before Judge Paige in Montgomery County Court in Narstown. At the conclusion of that hearing, Judge Paige issued a ruling approving the sale of the property to WB Homes. That order has all already been sent to WB Homes, which then allows the next phase of the process to move forward. WB Homes has now entered their 120day period of inspection, which will conclude on January 4th of 2026. At the end of that period, if WB Homes is satisfied, the district will receive two deposits. The release of the initial escrow of $75,000 and then uh along with that will be a second deposit in
003the amount of $125,000. Once the district receives that $200,000, it does become non-refundable. A third deposit of $125,000 will then be due from WB 5 days after they receive preliminary subdivision approval from the township. Looking ahead, the final closing on the property must occur within 60 days after all conditions in the agreement are met or sooner if WB were to choose to wave them. The agreement requires that closing take place no later than July of 2027 with the possibility of a six-month extension if there were to be a moratorum on sewer or water connections that would take place. So in summary, Judge Paige approved on July 3rd the allowance of the transaction to proceed. WB has received the court's order and they are now moving forward in their period of inspection and the district is
004moving forward under the timelines established in the agreement and we will continue to update the board along the way. Thank you. Thank you Dr. Zini. Any questions for members of the board to my left, Miss Purdue. I just want to clarify um you said July 2027 for the closing. No later than July of 27. Okay. anticipating that it could take up to that long for the process to move forward. And just to confirm, that's the timeline that we had in our original agreement. That's correct. Okay, perfect. Thank you. Any other questions to my left? Seeing none to my right. Seeing none, thank you Dr. Serjini. Next on the agenda again is Dr. Serjini and Mr. Kenwood, our director of facilities with the 10-year master facilities plan. This was the plan that was presented at the
005property committee meeting uh in September of this year. Dr. Serjini, Mr. Kenwood. Thank you again, Dr. Zerby, and good evening again, members of the board. This presentation provides an overview of Methactton School District's 10-year capital improvement plan. Reviewed in part by the board in June of 2025, the plan focuses on a systemsbased approach to maintaining safe, functional, and future ready school facilities. While a comprehensive Methactton High School campus project proceeds on a parallel track, this plan ensures that critical infrastructure investments, particular particularly, as we've said before, those that support warm, safe, and dry learning environments continue uninterrupted across all buildings in the district. Next slide, please. On this slide, you will see the totality of the 10-year plan broken out by building and by year with all projects totaling $59.1 million. And board members, you
006have a copy of that at your place. Next slide, please. In June 2025, the Methactton board of school directors reviewed the first three years of the district's 10-year capital improvement plan. This presentation outlines the broader vision behind that phase strategy, a vision grounded in proactive systems management and long-term sustainability. Simultaneously, as we've said before, the district is advancing plans for a significant Methactton High School campus project. Recognizing the scale and impact of that endeavor, this 10-year capital plan is intentionally designed to run concurrently, ensuring infrastructure needs at all other facilities remain addressed and do not fall behind. Together, these coordinated efforts represent a balanced and strategic approach to facility stewardship across the district. Next slide, please. At the heart of this model is a commitment to preserving the physical integrity and operational reliability of every
007school building. Rather than targeting individual buildings in isolation, the plan prioritizes three core facility systems, mechanical, electrical, and plumbing, commonly referred to as MEP, roofing systems, and critical site infrastructure such as drive lanes and parking services. These are the foundational systems that sustain safe and functional learning environments. And again, by focusing on these areas, we ensure that every facility remains warm, safe, and dry, not just today, but for years to come. Next slide, please. Ensuring appropriate indoor climate conditions is a fundamental aspect of a safe and productive learning environment. Throughout this 10-year plan, significant investments are directed towards upgrading and replacing aging HVAC systems, boilers, chillers, and associated mechanical infrastructure. Eagleville Elementary will see substantial upgrades through a chiller replacement and selective HVAC modernization totaling over $3 million. Woodland Elementary will benefit from new rooftop
008HVAC units and supporting infrastructure at Warscester and on the Arcola Sky View complex. Comprehensive MEP upgrades and control system improvements account for over $20 million in phased investments. These upgrades will enhance energy efficiency, improve air quality, and ensure that classrooms remain warm in winter, cool in summer or late spring, and conducive to learning year round. Next slide, please. Safety extends beyond the walls of our buildings. The plan recognizes the need to maintain secure, accessible, and navigable school grounds for all users, including students, staff, visitors, and emergency responders. Several schools, including Eagleville, Woodland, and Warcester, are slated for asphalt, seal coating, and mill, and overlay work to address cracked and deteriorating surfaces. These improvements reduce tripping hazards, support traffic flow, and extend the lifespan of the existing pavement. In addition, $515,000 has been allocated districtwide for
009the installation of security ballards, enhancing perimeter protection in hightra pedestrian areas. Critical elevator modernizations across four campuses also occurs. This work reflects the district's ongoing commitment to physical safety, accessibility, and compliance with applicable codes and standards. Next slide, please. Water intrusion is one of the most common and costly threats to educational facilities. Aging roofs compromise not only building envelope, but also internal systems, instructional technology, and even air quality. This plan incorporates strategic roof replacements at multiple sites over the next decade. Sky View Upper Elementary, for instance, will receive a $4 million roof replacement. Woodland's 2008 roof section is scheduled for renewal at a cost of approximately 1.35 million. Warscester will receive a complete roof and masonary repair project estimated at 1.6 million. Even auxiliary buildings like the transportation facility are included with roof coatings to
010preserve structural longevity. These proactive measures are designed to minimize emergency repairs, control moisture infiltration, and protect the district's physical and financial resources. Next slide, please. Over the next 10 years, the Methactton School District will invest approximately $59.1 million into preserving and enhancing its facilities through this capital improvement plan. The timeline has been strategically developed to align with the financial pacing of the district's broader budgetary framework while complementing the high school campus project. Notably, the most financially intensive years are scheduled for 2032 and 2035, coinciding with major system upgrades across multiple buildings. This allows for adequate financial planning and resource allocation without overburdening the district in any single fiscal cycle. By combining fiscal discipline with a systems focused approach, the district ensures that every capital investment yields long-term operational value, educational continuity, and sustained safety for
011students and staff. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Kenwood and Dr. Sini. Are there questions from members of the board to my left on anything that was presented to the Miss Canro? No. No. Uh, no questions cuz we we looked through that through property. But I I really do appreciate um when you broke it down by prioritizing system focus approach. I because as I look at this I'm like okay are you looking at all the buildings through each system and I know you are but I don't see you what you all the work that you're doing but this is great. So I really do appreciate the whole work that you've done. I want to keep my our eyes on the only only one that I always think about is uh transportation and that building. Just always
012want to keep my eyes on that. But overall, thank you for this plan. Any other questions to my left, Miss Purdue? Um, no, thank you also and this is always helpful to have. Um I think when I look at this the only and I'll ask the question because on here and I'm looking at this one is listed as capital um improvement plan. So then we have nothing for arrowhead in 10 years at all or is it that it falls out of scope in reference to what how you're defining capital improvement plan? We do not have anything planned for Arrowhead during this time frame. So, do we have any small projects for Arrowhead that falls under a different plan also then? Yeah, we'll likely have summer admin projects at Arrowhead, but from a system standpoint, given
013that the building is new, there aren't any systems that will need to be replaced within that that 10-year plan. So even the districtwide um the one that we have for the security ballots, we don't have anything. We don't need to do any it it does include Arrowhead. Okay. Yes. Okay. Um and then I just had a quick one in reference to the high school. Um I was looking at the artificial turf um replacement and um the track resurfacing. And I know we've had recently had an email in reference to the use of artificial turf and but I know that project is also I guess it's later for 2027. Is there any way to look into this a little bit more to and I don't know if it was already been discussed at property or anything
014but I'm just wondering if we've looked into this and um this is the best way to proceed or have we looked at our options for it. We have looked and will continue to look at this time, you know, judging by the uh the industry both at the uh the major league level and the uh the collegiate level as well as the high school level. Turf fields are uh have been determined to be safe. So that is the the uh direction that the district has gone in, but we will certainly continue to look at that as we move closer to the project. Okay. Thank you. And I also agree in reference to the um transportation. I think um it looks like our projects for that are a little bit out maybe starting in 2028. So I
015think it's definitely one that we want to make sure we're keeping an eye on just because there may be I don't know what the plans are for that. So uh just keep an eye on that. But thank you. Yeah, there were a few projects that we actually broke into two components. if there was some system that was a higher priority, we moved that up and broke it out from uh the balance of the system. So that's why you'll see the roofing at the transportation facility earlier in the plan and then the interior work and the site work a little a few years later. Thank you. Yeah. Um thank you very much for this. is really easy to understand and and thank you for this layout. Um actually Miss Perdue asked all the questions that I
016was going to ask. So um thanks Miss Purdue. Uh questions to my right, Miss Clearary. Yeah, I I want to follow up on um Miss Purdue's comment about it's really the the email that she's referring to or we actually heard it at the actual board meeting um relative to POS. So, I think my request is that when we do start to talk about this project in um property, if we could talk about the materials that we're considering using. Um I do a lot of work with that in my job outside of here and I just think it's I think it's worth a discussion. It would allow the public to come express any concerns that they might have and so I just ask for that. Um my other question was relative to the roof and I
017apologize since I wasn't in property um at the meeting but the skyola um roof replacement in 2026 is how old is is that portion of the roof that that roof system is actually or was part of Arc Colola and when Sky View was built it was annexed and is actually now part of Sky View. So, I don't have the exact date, but it is older um and beyond our our warranty at this point, and we've had some active leaks in that area, and that's why we're we're targeting. It doesn't have a good rating, I imagine. It does not. Okay, that answers my question. Thank you. Other questions? U Mr. Wyers? Yeah. Um thank you, Miss Clary asked that. Just to clarify, so that is the sky colas section and not the newer part of Sky
018View. Okay. Okay. Um you answered this for me at the property committing, but the inflationary factor. So the $59.1 million already includes escalation costs to get to Okay. Thank you. And then uh Eagleville um the chiller replacement. So refresh my memory. um is that was not captured in the project we did about 5 years ago. It it was not the um we we've had two data points or input on that chiller. One came through the Bureau of Veraritoss study and one from the manufacturer and both recommended that we look to replace that in the next year or two and that was one of the projects that we broke out. So originally it was deeper or later in the plan and we broke that cost out, reduced the portion later in the plan and and moved
019it up. Any other questions uh from to my right? Seeing none, thank you Dr. Sugini and thank you Mr. Kenwood. Uh next on the uh agenda for guest and schedule speakers, uh we have Miss Stephie who will be talking about the capital borrowing plan and budget projection updates. So as Miss Stephie proceeds to the podium, I just want to kind of set the stage for everyone on this. Uh this evening, Miss Stephie will be sharing a budget forecast inclusive of new debt for each of the proposed high school renovation options. She will conclude uh from her forecast that the district cannot again cannot manage the large amount of debt required in the construction period typically three years. She will also conclude that taking on any of these renovation options will negate alone will negate the
020work described in the master facilities plan uh just moments before. Hence the following uh Miss Deputy's presentation, we can share that these options will still have merit but will require a longer period of time for renovation and borrowing to better manage within the forecasted budget. She will share how much the district could borrow while addressing the master facilities plan and approaching one of these proposed high school options in a phased in or by project approach. So as Miss Stephie starts presenting these options, you know, the the financials associated with option 1 A, 1B, 2A, and 2B, the models include all the same assumptions that we outlined in the May 21, 2025 presentation. And at the back of this uh presentation, she included an appendix with those assumptions. We're not going over them this evening, but
021we we have them for your review. Um but there are there are three changes to those assumptions from that period of time. We've taken into account the revised uh 2020 uh627 uh act one index. It was previously estimated at 3.7% act one index. It's now at 3.5. We also uh updated the May presentation uh uh on this projection to reflect the final 202526 uh approved uh budget. and we applied a new uh draw schedule for the three years of construction in the four years of borrowing. Again, each of these proposed re high school renovation options have a construction timeline of approximately 3 years with borrowing at best being over four years. And each of the renovation options borrowing only for the high school would place the district at risk of running large uh deficits. Miss
022Stephie. Thank you, Dr. Zerby. Um, as Dr. Zerby stated, the financial model for the renovation borrowing scenarios is based on the same presump assumptions presented in May. Included at the end of the PowerPoint as appendix A with two exceptions. The 2627 act one index has now been finalized at 3.5% revised from originally projected at 3.7%. And the expenditure and revenue figures have been updated to reflect the 2526 final budget amounts. For purposes of long range affordability, the model continues to use the projected act one index in future years. The intent of these forecasts is to evaluate affordability. All four scenarios begin with surpluses in 2627 and 2728. As debt ramps up in years 3 to 5 of the model, the deficits become unsustainable. Option 1 A, $144 million borrowing over four years for high school
023renovation project only. You can see an initial surplus in years 1 and two. By year three, rising debt payments create structural deficits until year 9 when we return to a surplus. The 10-year cumulative deficit for option 1A is $4.7 million. Next slide. Option 1B, $152 million borrowing over four years for high school renovation project only. Option 1B presents a slightly higher initial debt load than scenario one. And again, you will see a surplus in years 1 and two. By year three, rising debt payments again create structural deficits. The 10-year cumulative deficit for option 2B is $9.1 million. Next slide. Option 2 A, $170 million borrowing over four years for the high school renovation project only. Same story as option 1 A and 1B. We see a surplus in years 1 and two. By year three,
024rising debt payments create structural deficits. The increased borrowing results in material larger deficits in the later years. The 10-year cumulative deficit for option 2A is $18.1 million. Next slide. Option 2B. $176 million borrowing over four years for the high school renovation project only. This is the largest short-term borrowing option. Same story here. You see a surplus in years one and two. By year three, rising debt payments create structural deficits. The 10-year cumulative deficit of option 2B is $20.8 million. As you can see, each of the four scenarios results in deficits beginning after year two. While the district experiences short-term surpluses in years 1 and two, the rapid increase in debt service outpaces projected revenue growth, creating deficits. The higher the borrowing level, the larger and more unsustainable the deficits become over the 10-year period. It
025is important to note that the reason we see surpluses in years one and two across all models despite the issuance of new debt is that the district has already begun budgeting debt capacity for the high school project. Next slide. On slide six, you will see a model that projects $180 million borrowing spread over 10 years. The model layers in debt more gradually as existing debt falls off. That pacing makes the deficits in years 4 through 9 more manageable. In year 1, we see a surplus of 70 $726,152. In year two, a surplus of $661,88. In year three, the surplus falls to $117,876. From years 4 to9, deficits start at $599,544 and increase to $1.2 $2 million as debt levels flatten out, then fall to $435,764 in year 9. The forecast ends in year 10 with
026a surplus of 138,654. The 10year cumulative deficit of the $180 million borrowing is $2.1 million, which can be managed through the use of fund balance either from the capital reserve or the general fund if needed. Next slide. Turning to slide seven. This shows how construction costs could look if we assume $180 million is available for the high school renovation and the 10-year master facilities plan. For example, in year 1, a $15 million borrowing is projected with $5.5 million applied to master plan projects leaves $9.4 million for the high school renovation. Year two, $35 million borrowing would allocate $4.3 million to master plan projects and $30.6 million for the high school renovation. In year three, another $35 million borrowing is projected with $1.1 million for capital projects and $33.9 million for high school renovation. The same
027logic continues across through year 10. The total borrowing across the 10-year model equals $180 million supporting local projects costing $184 million. Total project costs are slightly more than total borrowings in this projection but can be funded through the capital reserve fund if necessary. That concludes my presentation. So, so when just one final comment uh with all of this, the the purpose of of these slides was really to illustrate u not an exact science of what will happen in the future, but to forecast a prediction uh based on the knowledge and information that we have available for to us today and tried to best predict the risk associated with uh t making any decisions uh going forward. So, this 10-year forecast and and and the experts will will tell us this that it's highly unpredictable that
028we can predict that far in advance financially and do it really well. Uh but this is the best we can do at this point. I think it's to inform the board as we proceed forward with making decisions about uh master facilities plan or the the high school or both together. But the the most important part is that this forecast and the slides uh representing the impact to the budget for options 1A uh 1B, 2 A and 2B really indicate that the the forecast um using shorter increments like two to three years of decisions where renovations of the high school and projects under facilities uh master plan can be planned. and smaller and more manageable chunks all targeting a potential future outcome that could be similar uh in the future six 8 possibly 10 years similar
029to that of what you would see in the 2A or 2B scenario if over that period of time we continue to uh be able to afford those those renovations and projects along that path. So with that said, I I think it's maybe proper to open up any questions on on the information that Miss Stephie has provided as well as even having a little bit of the dialogue associated with uh our ability to, you know, talk about does the high school make, you know, does renovation of the high school make sense in being being able to pair this down into what we're considering projects that are that are uh sequenced towards a more uh long-term plan. So, I'll open the floor up if anybody wants to make any comments about or questions about any of the
030the stuff we presented so far. If we're not I know you're seeing this for the first time, many of you. Um I'll be glad to uh you know answer any questions you might have. Thank you. I just want to um make sure that my assumption is along the right lines because um not even looking at 1A but the baseline um cost that we had discussed 12 is 12 like warm safe dry baseline 128.5 million that's like that doesn't fit that doesn't math either correct that would make sense to assume that that would not work either the warm safe drive cost right I just wanted to check my assumption Thank you. Any other comments or questions? To my left, to my right. Uh Mr. Murki. So with page seven, you're assuming in this uh scenario that
031we're borrowing 125 million for the high school renovation and the 59 million for the 10-year capital plan that we just went over. Correct. Correct. They worked backwards from their master facilities plan. So that doesn't um does that doesn't even get us to 1A. Correct. Correct. I just point that out, Miss Graph. I think that it does get us to 1A. Correct me if I'm wrong perhaps. Um total project budget for the option baseline was 109 million and then for option 1A is 125. The additional scope which is below the line brought us to 14 125 and 128 144. Is that not correct? Since our engineer is sitting in the audience, he could probably answer that question. Good evening everybody. Um okay. So the baseline scope um inclusive of soft costs and contingency excluding those additional
032scope items for consideration would be 100 just shy of 113 million. with the additional scope and again that was mostly related to finish replacements with um flooring casework um that would take it to 128.5 million under the baseline. Option 1A without the additional items would be at 128 million and obviously you know um higher up to 144 with those additions under option 1A. Can you can you just check that because I think that's the updated version with the change in the classrooms. I think that the original version that I have dated 912 has a 109 and 125. Those are the original estimates that were provided. Uh these numbers were were updated on the 11th, September 11th in preparation for this meeting and they do include adjustments of uh reduction of 7,000 square feet of classroom
033space from new construction. So these numbers are slightly different than what you had seen at the last U board meeting. Okay. Um so that said I guess at the 112 number for the baseline scope does how do we come up with the numbers that are in the row labeled high school renovation the 9,451,000 30 thou 30,65. So I backed into those numbers. So like the master facilities plan is a known. So as it was presented tonight that $5.5 million would be allocated to projects known projects on the master facilities plan. So that $9.4 million is backed into and that might not necessarily be $9.4 million in the 2526 school year. It could be the 26 27 school year. Um but that I backed into that number. So, so we're the the calculations were basically done
034with if we borrow 35 million, we allocate a certain amount of that for the high school master facilities plan and then what's left you attributed to the high school renovation. Correct. Okay. Um, so then in year six there's a zero for the high school renovation. Is there a reason for that? Well, like I said, I backed into the number using the master facilities plan. So, the known debt issued in year 2930, $25 million that would cover the 10-year master facilities plan in 2930 and then and then $17 million in 2930 for the high school, which again could be spread over the over the two years. It's um you know so are you saying that there is no available debt in 203031? So if we project if all of the debt is borrowed as projected in
035years 1 through five there would be no debt issuance in that year. Correct? I think you're I think you're answering a different question than what I'm asking. So let me ask it let me ask it again a different way. If I want to borrow 25 million in year six, can I borrow 25 million in year six? We could not afford to borrow 25 million in year six because it would create a larger deficit and it's the borrowing happens the next year because that's when we have large amounts of debt that fall off and then also in year 3435 again we have large amount of debt that falls off. So that makes it affordable for us at that point. So let me ask a different question. If I shifted everything from year two back a year,
036so year two moves to year three, year three moves to year four, year four moves to year five, etc. Can I borrow in year six? If you're if we're keeping um capacity in the budget for debt, we could borrow in year six, but if you let that capacity fall off, then you can't because you can't make up the difference. We wouldn't make up the difference. Correct. Okay. So, I guess what I'm saying is if I didn't borrow the 35 million in year two, can I move it back to year six? You can you can shift the debt as long as you keep the capacity there. Okay, that answers my question. Thank you. And I think to your to your comments, Miss Graph, this is only an example and and it's trying to it's trying to
037make sure that u we have a reasonable budget forecast that we we know we could afford and and you know, can it be more or less in one year or the next? It likely can. but but compared the the 10-year project against the budget impact of the other four options where all the borrowing is done in in a short period of time. That's that's the that's really the conversation to make sure that everybody understands that piece. Sure. Are these um what when you ran the the models for the high school project, can you tell us what the amounts were each year for the draw schedule because they're not I don't see them on your chart, but maybe I'm missing them. They're not listed. I do have them. Not in my head, unfortunately. Okay. I'm assuming
038they don't match the numbers on the last page, the 35, 35, 30, 25. I'm I'm assuming they're not significantly different than that. Yes. Okay. Could you let us know what they are when you get them? Yep. Thank you. Uh any other questions to my right, to my left, Miss Canro? I guess going off with uh what Mr. Murski was saying though then tonight we should be really kind of am I assuming that like 1A we have to look at phasing of 1A is kind of what we're assuming with this like I don't want to create an interpretation but that's kind of what we're if we're thinking about being financially sound 1A in a phase approach over six years over actually seven years would be the way to approach this project. I know you can't say
039whether you recommend that or not, but that's the scenario that I'm think that you use, right, for your budget is the 1A, right? So, it's not like we did 1B and you created a 10-year financial projection, a 2A or 2B. This is definitely the 1A number. Well, these numbers are not based on any of the uh options that were presented. Okay. All all it just comes right close to so that makes you start to think yeah we we asked our financial advisors we said you know can you help us identify the maximum amount we can borrow in a given year over a 10-year period of time. Um, and it allowed us to put the the numbers that she shared in here. And then as she mentioned, she took the known being the high school M
040or I'm sorry, no, the uh master facilities plan numbers and subtracted that from the the maximum estimate to get what we can invest in the high school and that it's similar to what's in this what's in this estimates from uh Mr. Bryce and CHA, but it wasn't based on that. Okay. Thank you. and and I yep, Mr. Moski. So I just point one other thing out. So So basically the um recommendations the model that you u list on page seven is based on the um projected borrowing that's on page six. Correct. Correct. You're using the correct borrowing rates in table that is on page six. So basically that means that we're not to to Miss Graph's point, we're not able to borrow additional funds until year 10. And then I assume the debt starts to
041drop back off the debt that that we've taken off. So if you project out further than that, that well in this case surplus number gets bigger. Yeah. It starts it's it flattens out. So as you see the deficate decrease, it flattens out then through year 30. at a roughly that rate or you're not sure the debt stays level. I think it's about 13.1 million. Okay. That will stay level through year 30. So, so okay. So, if you That's assuming if we don't borrow. Yeah. If you assume the the same incremental act one index rate and the same inherent budget growth through operating expenses, then that means that your ability to borrow funds grows after in year 10 and on. That's what it means. It's not flat. I mean the debt is flat. The debt is
042flat. But that would be the capacity to borrow increases. So correct my my point is is that there may be capacity after year 10 to borrow additional funds. Correct. But again that means that we have 120 under this these assumptions we have 125 million to spend for high school renovations however we want to do it. Right. And the total for just baseline isund well without the additional scope isund 112 113 million. So what we talked about in property which was pursuing like 2B spread over 10 to 12 years you wouldn't be able to build tear down the west wing and rebuild the entrance and that that part those parts of the building until after 10 years. You'd you'd be able to do renovations to the existing high school upgrades and you'd have to wait probably
043for five years or longer depending on the operating budget and you know revenue to be able to borrow enough money to be able to build to to do that kind of a renovation. Yeah, that the the I I think you're correct in terms of the the general understanding that that the challenge is um as I said earlier, it's hard to predict 10 years. Um but that's what we discussed also. I mean, you have to do it in a way that you could stop until you're able to Yeah. afford, right? Yeah. And so and so one of the the nice things about what the design team has done at least up to this point is they've they've said you know we have four options including the baseline that um obviously all those options theoretically need to
044be more refined but generally speaking they're they're built upon each other. So you could you could theoretically say, you know, somewhere in the future, so long as we don't uh, you know, create a plan that that that builds on top of something already built, you theoretically could say, you know, you could get the 2B at some point or but but you know, the work that you're doing along the way that you can financially manage and you can m in terms of risk to the budget um is it can be planned in smaller chunks and can be better managed in the end. Um I I will say that and again this the experts will will either have to agree or not agree to this. In the end, you know, 170ome million dollar project as it's presented
045here today might be a $200 million project 10 years from now in total. It may it may cost us more just because of sheer escalation. But you know that that that doesn't mean we shouldn't do something. It means that we can only do what we can afford to do. Other questions? Any other questions? M. Yeah, I just have uh it's not really a question. It's more of just um a thought of answers needed down the line. Um, in previous conversations when we've discussed lengthening projects, there are parts to the warm, safe, dry plan that cover the whole building like I might say this wrong, the H I think the HVAC system, right? And so I guess what I will need to see is what that means and how that's what the recommendation would be for
046addressing that in a way that makes sense because that's a whole building thing. So I guess that that's just something that I don't fully understand in the 10-year plan. Um but I know that it still needs to be talked. So I'm just saying that's something I I'll need to see and understand later on. No, that's an excellent point and I just want the board to be aware that uh we we've only recently begun having the conversations associated with breaking these options down into potential smaller projects and as such you know we we starting you know the meat of that conversation uh actually tomorrow. Um so we it's our goal to make sure that uh we start developing those conversations uh developing the sequencing associated with that uh uh you know the cost all of those
047pieces so that we can you know come back to the board and say okay here's here's the the best you can do in terms of project one and the most appropriate thing to stay warm safe dry or or address the issues that are that are associated within your priority list. Other comments questions Mr. winners. Yeah, just for clarification, we did we had this preliminary cost estimates, Josh. Um, and I think M Scgraph was uh asking a little bit about this and you said there were some changes, but what Dr. Zerby just said 170 million might become 200, but I believe at least in the what we saw last month, the three or fouryear aspect has got an escalation. It's years 5 through 10 12. That does not or does it? That's I'm trying to make
048sure I understand if these cost uh that we're seeing now on preliminary cost are being escalated beyond a four-year time frame. The uh the numbers that have been presented to date do include escalation for the duration of what we figured was um a a contiguous project. In other words, it wasn't broken up over 10 years. What we did is we take escalation factors into the midpoint of what we assume the construction time frame is um to account for material uh deliveries up into about the midpoint of construction. So that's how we factored in escalation into the overall budget. Um the budget does obviously having said that does include escalation again for a project of for a fouryear time frame not a time but it was a three-year construction. Yeah. Yeah. Um and and it's actually
049four years in inflation. Yeah. So, you know, I we can take another question. What I wanted was going to suggest is since we are talking about the sheet, uh we probably should have uh Mr. Grace present this information so that we can be all up up to speed on this and the and the challenge is we're we're kind of working in tandem with a couple different things. So, the borrowing doesn't necessarily meet the some some of this. So, uh, Miss Graph, if you want to take the qu we'll take the question and then we'll ask Mr. Grace to present the sheet. Yeah, I just wanted to circle back in property. We talked about the idea of taking one of the options and we discussed option 2B because it was kind of like the all-in it
050gives you everything you want and breaking it out over a longer period of time to do it as discrete projects. I think there were a couple of key points that the engineering team shared with us about doing that that you can't take the $170 million project cost and extrapolate that into projects. It's actually there's a there's a consideration of the project cost goes up, right? Could you talk a little bit about how if you took the HVAC project for example and you did the baseline scope of the HVAC project when you come back to add on a new building area in 2B there's a new wing of classrooms that HVAC cost would have to be added in a second time for that new wing right so there's some I don't want to say it's duplicative
051but it is a little bit duplicative you pay for things sometimes more than one time when you break it out like that. Uh in terms of the hard costs, I don't know that that would necessarily be the case. I think um obviously we would not replace systems in phase one that we know five or six years down the road we're going to touch again. I think the duplication of of costs would be in your soft costs. um something as simple as your advertising costs, your professional fees, your um construction testing, and the types of things that come along with the approval process or the the um the soft costs associated with it. Obviously, just from an inflation standpoint, the overall project cost will increase as as you guys had mentioned tonight as well. Um you
052know, you you lose that economy of scale. um you there's more of a potential for uh not system conflicts, but as a public bid, we need to make sure that we have competitive bidding. And we do that by having multiple vendors listed, multiple products listed. And as you move further down the line, your um ability to mesh different types of equipment together, maybe different building management systems together becomes more limited and along with that prices tend to increase. So, um there are multiple factors why the project would be more expensive spread out over a number of years. Um those are just some of the key factors off the top of my head that I can I can think of. Yeah. I just I think it's important for the board to be aware that you're going
053to talk about these cost estimates again and sort of walk us through them, but we can't take this and extrapolate it to a longer term project. These are designed to be a a single project executed over a three to four year period where construction starts and is finished and when it's finished and there's no break in that construction cycle. That that's accurate. Yes. Yeah. You're not going to take $128 million and divide by 10. Exactly. Okay. And the other I guess the other question is we had asked if it was possible to have you give us some information related to breaking out projects over time. So, will you be able to provide that information? Obviously, not tonight. I don't mean tonight. Yeah, certainly. We we can do that. Um, as long as we have some
054general direction based on the presentation tonight as far as what the overall final building will uh look like. You know, if if if we're saying that 2A 2B is completely off the table at this point, we can focus more so on the the building as it currently stands. That would be a tremendous help benefit for us to know exactly to to give you guys the most comprehensive information if we know what the end goal realistically can be. We can definitely break those down into uh recommended phases. Okay. So I know we had asked for that improper and I just I think it's really important maybe to hold on that to answer your question and then also because I think that the administration needs to circle up a little bit more on the financial piece so
055that we can define the financials a little bit better maybe and then come back to you with that. Sure. In the meantime, we can certainly start thinking about all options and what maybe makes sense from a phasing and implementation standpoint. When it gets to a point where you guys have combed through the information and say you can just drop options two and 2 A, 2B, whatever, we can make the adjustment at that point. Okay. Thank you, Miss Purdue. I just have a quick followup question, Miss Graph, and maybe I missed something because when I'm looking at this 10-year financial projection model, I I just want to clarify when you reference 2B, are you thinking 2B in reference to the high school or are you referencing 2B in reference to the 10-year financial projection model? because
056I I just don't see what option to be is on the table when I'm looking at this um financial projection cuz where are we getting the money from if I'm only looking at I just want to make sure did I miss something because I just don't see I don't see the vision at all. So recognizing that property committee met before financial. So we didn't have the financial information at property. So in the absence of the information related to how much the district could borrow and over what duration, we we had asked if we have to break it into projects and space them out over time. Let's look at getting the district everything that that we want over a longer time frame, which would be 2B. And if that means we have to break it into
057five projects, let's do that. Let's see what that looks like. Um, and that's to my point, I think that's why we're we need to go back and hold on doing that work. I don't think it's worth the engineer doing that work now and then coming back to us with options we can't afford. At the time, we didn't know. And that's why I just I just thought maybe I missed something because I was like and that's why I asked because we have a model that referenced the 2B for finance and then we also have a high school option 2B. I just wanted to make sure cuz I just looking at this number it look like what are we at baseline? We're in between baseline and 1A. And then we haven't even talked about the central administrative
058offices and that wasn't included here in this 10year projection. So I feel like we're financially this is looking very um sad. I But maybe you guys see something else. So I'll Yeah, I I I apologize, Josh. I don't mean this with any disrespect. It's nothing I'm just wondering why we're having Josh present because to Miss Purdue's point, I'm not I'm not I don't I I don't understand what I'm missing. It says high school renovation, if I use Miss Steffy's numbers, uh 25 million, and I know already that 1A is 128 million. I don't understand why we're having Josh spend time on these other options when we know based on this in the 10-year window, we can't do any of that. So, I I don't understand why we're not focused on what we can do and
059what small projects this board, not small, sorry, that's not the right word, but what projects this board can take on within the capacity that we have over the next couple of years. I I I've I've lost the logic. Yeah, there there's there's if if the board wants him to present the information that he prepared, uh do so. But we we had discussed I believe at the last board meeting, there was a discrepancy between the number of classrooms that we were estimating uh for the 2A and 2B option. And basically what he was able to do is come back and um you know create an update for you so that you know what those those changes are. And I believe it was a difference of maybe $7 million. Is that right, Mr. Grace? Yes, give or
060take. It was um so I mean that's that's as much as you can. Yeah, but we can't afford it. So I just don't So I just to just for purposes of time and Josh I apologize. It's not disrespect towards you. I'm just don't understand what we're doing. Part of the point for coming back tonight was um just to respond to any questions or comments regarding additional breakdown of budget. You guys have seen uh in these meetings in this setting a one-page summary. The purpose of last week's committee meeting was to kind of show the backup of how we arrived at not only the baseline but all the other options. Um we went through in pretty granular detail. So, I'm happy to share any other backup information that we have uh for the sake of tonight's
061discussion, we can skip uh the detail. Um but whatever information you guys need from a detailed breakdown, we're happy to provide to the district. Yeah, I think it's just important that um you know that you have an updated uh projection here in front of you so you can you can see that. So if in fact uh there was an appetite for us to look at what was considered to be a longer term plan or vision of where where the high school is in the future with projects that actually we'll be making more decisions on towards that. You could use that information if you so chose to. Miss Claire, can I just jump in here real quick? So I think you know sitting at in the audience for the property and and sitting in the finance
062I think the thought process was that we don't know if 2B will be the end uh um end solution but the site the the the uh sort of the elimination the long-term elimination of the west part of the west wing. Um, and what that would look like is sort of to develop to give the both the architect and the um Josh and those guys some type of structure of what the long-term footprint would be looking like. So, it might not be it. It looks like for sure that it's probably not in this 10 10-year plan, right? But the idea was for the footprint to be done that way with the sort of the vision of whatever board is sitting here, you know, 10 years from now. So, you know, maybe it's still a waste of
063time if that's the belief of the board, but I think that was the direction that the property and finance was providing was to give a direction of what would it look like from a site perspective because that's a big portion of the cost and to design in in anticipation of getting that place because if it turns out that we're staying with a baseline or 1A or 1B and we have no vision of actually ever doing 2 A or 2B, then the footprint of the of the traffic would have to be different, right? And that's fine. That's what they'll design. So maybe we have to get to that point of making that sort of directional, but uh it I don't think it was a lost cause to sort of for the stretch from an aspect of
064of why we were looking at it that way. Um but I don't know if anybody else that sat at those meetings wanted May I just ask Mr. Winters a question off that? So, so when you say 10 years, do do you really mean more than that potentially like 20 years or Yeah. Well, honestly, uh we didn't know, right? So, um and it could be shorter. You know, there's other, you know, there's a lot of assumptions that are on the back page eight here, right? So, there it's it's a very assumption-based um long-term projection, right? It's based on act one being at 3.2 to the appetite to go to act one year after year of the different boards, right? Um it goes on what happens with contracts and what type of attrition has what we can
065do to bring down costs, operational costs in different areas. Um you know there's so many other things that are going to affect these finances finances over those 10 years. I'm not saying we can or can't. It might be 20 years, right? if there's going to be 20 years and it probably does seem sort of mute to look at 2B at this point, but we don't know. So, I think that's we'll have to mull over and and discuss that. But I think that was the sort of the thought process. The meetings last week did not know if it could be done in six, 10, 20. Right. Thank you for all that. I appreciate that, Miss Kro. You know, I I think it's we have to have a responsibility to be planning this at a 10 year,
066not go beyond that what our capability is. So, in truth, Devin, I feel like you're tasked with, you know, what we could do financially each year. Our responsibilities of high school renovation is very clear the 9, the 30 to the 33 each year. You know, you've sat with us for this past year and a half are our wants, our needs, but what has to be done. So I think the task is really now on you what the phasing could possibly be with your creativity and your team because I don't I I personally don't want to do anything with the vision beyond 10 years because it's not fair to the board or the never got it done. But so that's where I kind of feel like, you know, we did lead a we went a different
067direction when we were in that property committee meeting thinking that we could go to that 2B, but I don't I don't want to do that. And personally, I don't want to to do that. So that's my opinion. Any other any other comment, Miss Graph? Yeah, I I just have one more clarification and and maybe Mr. Winters can answer answer this question. Um, can I can I take year 2 35 million borrow and put it in year six and then start borrowing in year three at 35 million? So I could borrow year three four five six seven. That gives me 150 million over a 1 2 3 4 5 year period. Can I do that, Miss Stephie? Can I do that? And I know that's not what you're you modeled and and I understand but do
068you understand what I'm getting at? I think it's similar to the question you asked earlier. You can push off the borrowing as long as you keep the capacity in there. So, I can push it off, but can I take out the gap in year six is what I'm asking. If I push off a year, can I get rid of the gap? You can because you just push all the debt back a year. So, at that rate, then I guess I would like to ask Mr. Bradberry, what high school can you build us for $150 million? That's what I can spend. So my question to the design team is what can you build us? I don't understand. Back up a second. I might have misunderstood your question because we're not at We wouldn't be at $150
069million. We would because if you take the 35 plus 35 plus 30 plus 25 years 2 3 4 5 plus year 7 because you told me I can use year 7 money. if I move year two to year six. But but you're but now you're not considering the 10-year master facilities. I am. Well, I'm I'm taking the 150 because I'm pushing off. Yes, I you're right. I am not considering that. So, I'm going to ask the question still because I still want an answer because I think then you have to decide where where you want to spend your money. You have to decide where you want to spend your money, right? But I also have 15 million in year one that I didn't spend yet. So I could put that into my master facilities plan
070for at least the first couple years. Correct. So I have a little bit of fluff in that number. Little bit. I wouldn't say fluff, but you could reallocate the projects. Like you could push the projects back. So So I guess so Mr. Brad, what high school can you build me for $150 million? That's the so we designed a high school uh with all the program needs of the district and that came in at 212 million. Right. So we're looking at significant reductions if you want to maintain your act one index um and proceed that way. So I I don't know what I can get you for $150 million. So I I mean I don't know. I mean, I we I guess I should pose it to my fellow board members if there's an appetite for
071asking that question and having you come back to us with what that would look like. Um maybe it doesn't have a pool, maybe it's a smaller footprint, maybe it doesn't have three gyms. I don't know. But I'm sort of curious to know what that would look like and whether there's some way to sort of use the budget to facilitate the decisions about the design. I we can certainly look at that. I don't think you're going to like what you what we come back with. Well, it's not it's not my fault that you've given us really beautiful designs. Oh, thank you. I was going to say, you know, um, but I do think like that's kind of where I that's where my head is in this conversation as we're thinking about it. I'm thinking we now
072know how much we can spend. My question is what does that get us? What what can we use that money for to enhance the situation that we have at the high school and and what what would we have to give up? Because there's obviously going to be things we can't do and that's fine. I I think we just need to know what that looks like. And just to to clarify, you're talking about uh a project that could be a renovation and addition project for $150 million. It it could absolutely. If you could build me a brand new high school for $150 million, you'd be a hero. But I understand that's unlikely and you probably would have to do some sort of renovation project. Sure. Yeah. I would say I don't really have an appetite, Kate,
073because for for doing that because 150 million backed in for soft cost and escalation and everything, you're talking 110 million probably. So you're you we're that's half the size of the the cost that we saw 6 months ago. Um so I don't think it's going to materialize in anything that that we're going to want to go forward with. So, you asked the question, I I'm not really interested. And I would add to what m Mr. Winter said, um I'd wonder how much that would cost us first to do, right? We've put a lot of money into design. And I'm I I'm just not sure I'm willing to spend any more money on design at this additional design at this point. So, I'd want to know all those costs up front before we even thought about
074something like that. Maybe that's the the first question. Does does um does the request require a new approval for design work? So, you have options that are around $150 million for the additions renovations, right? So, you kind of already know what you can get from that. Now, if we're looking at reducing programming going a different direction, I think that's was that what you're asking for? I I I I think I think we started with a brand new school like but but then it didn't No, I mean I think that um I I I hear the comment about new design. I don't really think we're asking for new design. I think what we're asking is you have you have a design, you have breakout costs of various components of that design. you could come back to
075us and say if you wanted to build, you know, I don't know, six new classrooms onto the existing building at this price, you could do that with a new pool and, you know, whatever else. And that's where you spend your 100 million. You know, that's what you have. Um, and I guess that's just my mind. I'm thinking we have all the costs already sort of differentiated by area and and item and we would just need to know sort of what items are available in that budget. And I guess that also goes to Josh's comment about the breakouts on the baseline. Like he could break out the baseline scope for us so we could see exactly what that looks like. Um because at this point we're going to have to decide if we want to move
076forward with that or if we want to not move forward with that. The the baseline, if I remember correctly, the baseline doesn't include any new construction aside. Yes. Even the pool doesn't include it. So there's there's no there's a no pool re there's no pool renovation. There's no pool reconstruction. There's renovation of existing pool spaces and existing spaces within that. There's just no new addition of new niatorum. No conversion of existing niatorum. Okay. Miss the Yeah. Sorry. I just wanted to um confirm. So warm safe dry is warm safe dry and keeps warm safes and drives the pool. Not dries the pool. That said that wrong. Um but keeps it from leaking, right? Is that what that Yeah. So any upgrades, repairs, uh retrofits within the existing building. It's all within the existing building and
077everything stays. So the pool stays where it stays a pool. It's just no longer as in the state it is currently. Correct. Um, okay. Thank you. And then I I want to make sure I understand cuz as the conversation continued, it sounded like Miss Graph like I I understood Miss Graph's request differently because it kind of seems like in order to extend this over a 10-year period, we do need to see a a breakout of the warm, safe, dry, and whatever options fit within. Right. I that's what I would understand because then we have to be like these go here in this order, right? Am I I'm understanding that correctly because that's what I Right. I don't know. I don't even know if I'm asking a question because it doesn't look like it's coming out
078clear. So, I think I'm understanding that correctly. I'm going to jump in. We talked because I agree exactly what she's saying. We talked about phasing where we're going to make the one area dry. We're moving everybody over here. We talked a lot about the modular classrooms and not getting the modular classrooms. So, we're going to do this phase, push them over here, we can make the gym be a classroom, this be a classroom. So, I do think we're going to have to you're going to have to come back to us with some discussion on if baseline or 1A in my opinion with a 10-year projection and showing phasing and trying to reduce some of these costs like the phasing and modular classrooms that we talked about that we were trying to get into. We were
079going down that way too soon. We have to do it now. like can we take that five million off that modular classroom and do the phasing of a 10-year and do the project could we get a pool in there and change that space if not then we need to put a pool in repair the pool into this baseline because in the baseline is the pool repair in that so I think we have to look at in my opinion baseline and 1a with a phasing approach for implementation over a 10-year yeah so um again if we're going to focus more so on the baseline and or 1A that helps us tremendously with maximizing use of our time to show you what those options are and what the phasing and cost could look like. Just going back
080to the comment about, you know, can we move money from here to there? And the other thing we need to know is are there any possibilities of a four-year plan or is it a 10-year plan because that's obviously going to affect phasing. So if we know duration and we know general scope of what part of the building is being disrupted, we we just need a little bit more guidance in helping you guys understand what those phasing implications are. I think that the the way we've laid out the options is a higher level of the phasing approach to what we're considering. So I would suggest and and feedback is certainly welcome that we look at baseline how to phase the baseline in if needed. We look at how to phase whatever options are in 1A and
081and you and you show what those those phase you know you show what the the incremental change would be o over time till we get to you know through the the um till we get up until the 2A uh component. Um, but we can be more detailed upfront knowing that the things that we got to do first or we should do first are are well are well structured and maybe there's, you know, more of an estimate on the on the back end type of things because we don't need that much detail now because we're not making that decision. Uh, but we certainly know that uh if we were taking anything to land development or anything like that, we would need a larger plan uh to be approved. So, I don't know if that makes sense,
082Josh, but but I think we already have the phases set up way the way the options are listed. It it does help certainly. And the other thing which you just hit on is is critical is what is the intended exterior improvement scenario at the end of the project. Are we still maybe targeting the 2Z? And we apologize for the combination of of option 1 A, 2 A, and Z's. Um, but is 2Z the intended site option with a baseline building option or a 1A building option? You know, a mix of maybe the more complex site with the more simplified building footprint. So, those are those are the types of things that I think was there any feedback in property about the site. Yeah, in property we were we were looking for the 2Z option. I
083guess I just looking at this, even if you did the high school renovation line, the nine, the 30, the 33, I mean, you've covered in years one through five, you've covered your baseline costs. So, I don't like I don't think we need to talk about phasing at that point. It's you have the money, you just have to do it in you can't really spend more than these amounts each year or we're going to be out of sync. But I think we can talk about that at a separate discussion in finance. But realistically, it's not a 10-year plan. It's a five-year plan or a four-year plan because year one is already gone. So years two through five, you you have funding there to do your baseline option. So I think you can take away the question
084of phasing because you don't really need to do that. Um, unless I'm misunderstanding, we should I think I just want to make sure that there's uh difference between phasing and individual project execution. So, we're still going to need phasing. Sure. No matter what. And not separate projects. I'm saying one baseline project that occurs over whatever years two through five. Okay. Or two through four if you can get it in that short of time frame and you can not use the extra 17 million in year five. Right. something like that. Glenn, it's a clarification question. The baseline, I believe, does not include the renovation of the pool in place, the way the information was presented originally. Is that do you do you recall or can you do you need to uh come back to me on
085that? Um the the baseline scope does include uh the existing natiatorum area renovations which um Glenn if you do have that breakdown from last week would be uh line items 5 through 8. So it is the baseline number that's presented here does include the repair and refurbishing of the existing pool in place. Correct. Yes. Okay. Okay. Um, as far as the phasing question, I think Miss Stephie doesn't look at the borrowing for the baseline, but I mean, basically, her financial presentation says that we have to phase for all these borrowing scenarios that we can't I mean, she didn't do the scenario for the baseline, but I sus suspect it's going to be pretty close because the borrowing scenario for the 144 says that you're in deficit if you do a normal construction period. Yeah. If
086we're doing a three-year construction period or a four-year construction period, it it it puts more risk on our ability to I mean, and to her in her financial model where we're assuming we have 125 million to borrow for the for the school for the high school assumes stretching it over a 10-year period. That's not spending 125 million in a three-year construction project. you'd have to significantly modify the 10-year capital plan in order to afford that because you'd have to shift the the spending that you're assuming you're going to make for things that we say we're doing in the 10-year plan out beyond the construction phase, you know, not to jump into it. I Yeah. No, to to borrow it all up front to do it. You you have to borrow it by 20 2029 2030.
087You're b you're borrowing all high school stuff. minus only 4 million at year 7. So we will borrow for high school specific renovation the 2029 2030 and then we're that's minus the four million right so um we could do it in a four-year phase which would be exactly how long it would take us to build anyway right so it's not a 10-year build phase it's a four-year phase for the high school specifically but we're going to be borrowing for the next 10 years because we have 10 of projects to do. Am I am I misspeaking? But yeah, I think you're you're I think what we're I think Miss Graph is saying you can do it something shorter than 10 years, but it's going to have to be longer than two and a half based on
088this one example here, right? It this could be the example, but to your point, Jen, is that it's $121 million of borrowing for the high school through year five, right? So that becomes a four-year project versus a two and a half year project, right? So that's all renovation and probably a bull, right? So but that puts a lot of pressure on I understand. But that the reality is is that maybe it doesn't for the high school itself need to be stretched over 10 years in itself for replacement of dry uh the pool etc. So I think you're both right. It's longer than what we had talked about before, but it doesn't necessarily necessarily have to be 10 years related. If you uh look at a 1A option, any other any other feedback or comments? Yes,
089Mr. Warner. Yeah, just a couple clarifi clarification questions. You said you took $7 million out of these estimates from a number of classrooms. What was that equated to? Uh we had removed I don't know that it was quite that much. It was 7,000 square feet, right, Devin? So um because I think what's that's why I want clarification because you had the previous I think Dr. Zerby said $7 million. I don't have the last week's estimate right in front of me. So I want to get clarification on the number of classrooms reduced six,000 square ft less. What was the dollar differential then? It only factors into 2 A and 2B and it was about $4 million less. It's it's good to know no matter what which direction they go. So, uh I would say I from
090today support the 1A it giving the direction to look at the 1A and b bouncing and moving off of the two 2B direction for our consultants. um if possible to keep the the 2Z site plan uh which uh may or may not include Mil Road, but I don't know if that's possible anymore because now you're I I don't think I think you're going to have to come up with another solution on the on the site plan. But um the idea is maximize um the parking and traffic flow. And um and I think as a board we have to also think about some of these renovation items and sort of reconsider our alternative priority our our priorities again and look at our priorities. So I mentioned the expansion of the classrooms on the second floor. I
091was told it's $800,000. It's not a a ton of money, but to me that's still not something we would want to do. Um it's so I would like to do some type of review of those at some point to see if we're still in line with those priorities because maybe there is ability to decide to do some reduction in some of these things like I'm not saying this isn't a good example but is the lunch and learn that we're getting in 1A something that can be implemented in the in the facility changes to the library and so forth. I don't know. And is it something that we want? So anyway, my point is that's not an opinion. It's just trying to make sure that we walk through all those things because it's possible we can
092determine that there are some things here that are not necessary in a renovation because they're not really delivering the result that we want. And the last piece um I guess I ask it's probably not doable but if there's any other possibility for solutions around uh internal flow of the students um be it I know that in the 2A and 2B there was actually a second floor corridor that took you down towards uh towards the gym. Um, is there something like that can be done? Uh, is there other things that could be done? Uh, we're going on uh with a new contract uh contract negotiation next year with MEA potentially. Um, is there a possibility we could extend the school day set 10 minutes which would add another minute from transit time and to and allow
093students to move from the west wing to the east wing? I don't know. there's there's different things that we can consider and maybe the quarter is not necessary in that case, right? We just have a little bit of a longer day. Um anyway, I those are the things I ask uh us moving forward. I think we're making progress. I know it sounds like we go around and around in a circle, but I think we made a lot of progress today. We understand the borrowing potential layout. We understand with confidence with the property committee and the um Dr. Seni Seni and Mr. Kenwood have a more confidence in that 10-year plan and when the timing of that is for the other buildings. So when we were talking about uh potentially building a new building, a new
094high school, the things that I wanted to make sure that we did not lose was educational delivery in the in the same way. Our ability to competitively pay our resources and not to go backwards related to other facilities during that time frame. So the 1A I think keeps us in path for all three of those goals. if we were going to make we're not going to meet those goals. I didn't want to do a new high school. So to me there we're making progress on the direction and hope hopefully we can give a final direction come October. So, so we we're we're certainly not taking any votes here this evening, but we but the direction that's on the table if if I may. We're talking about targeting 1A potentially coming up with a plan to
095include 2Z potential Mil Road. Is is there anybody in objection to to that direction for the uh design team? So, if there's any objections to I just had a question to clarify. The updated cost information includes 2Z site improvements in 1A and 1B, right? The baseline and 1A. I'm sorry. I I just noticed that the the costs increased in the baseline and I it the site improvements on 1A are now 6.8 million, which makes me think that is the same as 1B. So, I didn't I just wanted to double check that. Sorry, just combing through our extensive spreadsheet here. So, options and I'm looking I have two hard copies. Options 1 A and 1B do not include the full option two site development. That does not factor in until we get to option 2 A
096or 2B. So then can you tell me why then the baseline the site improvements are 4.2 million and in 1A they go up to 6.8. Uh I believe we had included not the milroad extension but the other parking lot number eight in the front in which would be the the front area. Okay. under the option the building option 1A 1B scenario that was added in. Okay. Thank you. And just to clarify then 1A administrative building knocking that down and putting parking or no we well we well go ahead. Correct. So um I understand there may be discussion tonight regarding okay um FINA but for the purpose of the budget that was still included as being demolished and repurposed for parking. Okay. And so with the recommendation that we're going, the only thing I would add
097to that is the administration. I know that we're not we're trying to wait to to select where we're going to look at things later on. But I do think it's kind of crucial to see how, you know, your programming at the high school right now and if we can reduce any like improve traffic alone with just our realigning where our classrooms are to some degree to help us. So thank you. any any miss I just wanted to uh first I want to thank uh Mr. for winners for sharing what he shared. Um, and I do agree with that. It would be a great exercise to reook at our priorities now that we have more of a direction. Um, but uh, I also just wanted to share a connection that I'm making that is probably far
098down the line, but I didn't want to forget to mention it. Um, where whatever direction we go in, it obviously it looks very very different than where this whole project had started. And I think there needs to be a consideration just later on of communicating with the public of why whatever the plan that we have is is going to create warm safe environments for the students cuz there was a high school planning committee. There were tours at the high schools. There was a lot of worked that led up to the design of a new high school. And I think that it would be good to just kind of put down the line communication because there were a lot of there was a lot of people in the community who wanted more than one A. So
099I think that there should be like some communication just plan like just for a later time. But I think that that would be a good thing to keep an eye on. That that's a that's a good request. We'll take care of that. So again, what we what Mr. the winners has suggested is a direction towards 1A and uh 2Z as as per the site. Um are there any other any objections to that at this moment in time? I I think that we probably need to just have a refresher on what is included. Um because there may be things that we want to remove and substitute other things for. Yeah. I.e. maybe we don't maybe it doesn't include a pool renovation. Maybe it includes some other renovation. I don't know. I'm just as an option. I
100don't if I remember correctly on my sheet 21A included the new pool, renovations of the library. No, it only included the pool, but it didn't include the library renovations, the auditorium band, or the science labs. So, it we may want to do a swap and, you know, give up a pool in exchange for science and learning centers that we want. I don't know. But I think it's worth a discussion for the board before we decide that like, yes, we like the 1A option the most. Is anybody in objection to possibly next week having that? I'm sorry. Anybody in objection to having us come back next week and and outline that in more detail? Everybody good with that? Yes, Mr. Purdue. I don't have an objection, but I think it will be good um when we
101get it next week. also just to look at the timeline based on having to make a decision in October if that's impacted or not or if that timeline is still feasible just because um I mean if we're thinking about looking at our options or reassessing our priorities I just want to make sure um the board will have enough time to be able to um make a decision. Excellent point. We've already started talking about how we might be able to uh adjust the schedule. Um we'd like to be able to talk about that uh tomorrow and then hopefully by next week we can provide that update. Any Miss Graph? I was just thinking it might be it might be best to do baseline and then sort of the breakout of the other additions we could incorporate
102with the baseline with some associated costs. So that way we know the baseline is included in 1 A 1 B 2 A 2B. So then you could pick and choose what you want to add for the additional costs. But we all we all agree that the baseline is something that is super important to do. So I think that's something we can agree on any any other comments. All right. Thank you. Um next on underneath this same topic we do have the methac high school campus planning uh central administrative offices. Uh so we asked Dr. Sugini to uh present an update on a general recommendation associated with the administrative offices. There was as a result of discussion that we had at la last month's meeting. Thank you Dr. Zerby. Continuing with those updates, uh, tonight the
103administration will provide an update on central administrative office planning as part of the larger Mthactton High School campus planning process. The presentation will review current needs, potential options for relocation and conclude with a recommendation that reflects both immediate priorities and long-term considerations. Next slide, please. After reviewing the available options and considering both financial and operational impacts, the administration recommends that the central administrative offices that we commonly refer to as the Fina administration building remain in a maintenance mode for the next six years or so. This approach is based on several key factors. No immediate cost savings or benefits are achievable that would substantially support the initial projects within the larger master high school renovation plan. The current roof and building systems can be maintained without major investment in the short term. Parking needs can be
104addressed with the construction of what's been called lot B on the uh in the planning of the site uh process and resources that might otherwise go toward leasing or purchasing space for the central administrative offices should be directed instead towards the high school renovation itself. Next slide please. If you recall all proposed high school campus renovation options involve the leveling of the Fina administration building. These central offices, administrative offices require a minimum of 11,800 square feet plus parking for approximately 40 staff and visitors. The district data center under all of these options would be relocated into the high school. Importantly, the administration building is home to student registration and its central location near the high school continues to make it well suited for accessibility to our families all across the district. Next slide, please. This
105has been mentioned several times before, but state law prohibits the construction of new administrative uh buildings unless they are part of a school facility. As such, the primary options to us then are remaining in the current location with short-term maintenance followed by eventual renovations that have been estimated at approximately $3.5 million. Incorporating administrative offices into the high school as part of the broader master plan. Leasing commercial office space that could be between 225 and $300,000 per year to lease or purchasing that commercial space for roughly $1.9 million. But that 1.9 million in purchase price would not include the additional costs of potentially fitting out that space. Next slide, please. Two potential relocation scenarios were examined and they have been mentioned all along the way. At Arola, there are approximately 4,400 square ft of space available
106in what's been commonly referred to as the cave on the second floor. However, there are certain things that we need to consider about that space. The area currently is used for staff workspace, student projects, and also for reading intervention. Perhaps equally important and logistically imperative, the campus is already congested with parking challenges and ideally administrative offices would require a separate entrance for safety and security purposes. Elevator access to ensure ADA compliance as well as dedicated visitor parking. All of which are fe uh features not feasible in the Arc Colola footprint. The other possibility that was mentioned is the high school and incorporating central administration could reduce classroom capacity by up to six rooms. Though though those spaces may not be contiguous, new construction to accommodate administration would cost approximately $450 per square foot. In addition
107to requiring separate entrances and elevator access again in the general area of wherever the administrative offices would be located on the high school um within the high school proper with current utilization at 73.5%. There is some flexibility but it comes with trade-offs for instructional space and that secure entrance and elevator access still become very important. Next slide please. So full circle, for these reasons, the administration recommends keeping the central office in maintenance mode for the next six years. This allows the district to concentrate financial and planning resources on the high school master renovation plan while continuing to monitor future costbenefit opportunities for administrative office relocation. This approach ensures that the immediate focus remains on students and instructional facilities while still maintaining operational stability for the district's administrative functions. Thank you, Dr. Serjini. Any questions uh
108for members of the board to to my left? And again, I I think it's important u as Dr. Sudini mentioned that unless the design team comes back and says, "Hey, there's a there's a financial benefit or there's an operational benefit to have that leveled." I mean that may change the direction of this of this conversation but other than that um you know this this is what we presented Mr. Wyinners. Yeah. A couple clarific Oh my gosh. Clarification questions please. Um the trailers at Fina are in good enough shape to last six years. I I can't assure you of that. That's something that we would have to investigate further as part of the maintenance of the the uh facility. Okay. And then you used uh options forward uh purchase or rent and you had referenced 11,500
109square ft needed,800. Yes. And then you priced it at 15,000 square ft. Was that because of why? Well, I don't think we can guarantee that leasing space at exactly 11,800 square feet is going to be I understand, but okay. But 12,000 might have been fair. But that's the bottom line is it's it's a significant operational expense that we don't want to take on during this time period when we're borrowing and doing this many projects on facilities. Well, if we if we were spending $220ome,000 a year uh towards the lease of space for the administration, we could be putting that money towards the, you know, spending more money on the actual borrowing process and taking up, you know. Yeah. And then the decision to move the data center. Uh I know you you explained to me
110before that it's not really that big of a space, but that will be incorporated into 1A now and not a new space in the projections. If we were going to do uh 1A then yeah that I would think in the projections of the steps. Okay. Hey Glenn, did you have any questions? Just wanted to question the uh so you look here at a purchase of uh 15,000 square ft commercial space of 1.8 1.9 million versus the construction of new space is 6.7 to include it in the high school. Can you explain that significant difference in cost per square foot or area? I think you take the square footage 450 uh of I can do the math. That's not the point. You're trying to That tells me it's four times more expensive to build than to
111buy existing. We we received the square foot numbers from our realtor. That purchase price I assume has some type of annual fee, maintenance fee. You're not buying a whole building. You're buying a floor. I don't Is there operating costs that go along with that purchase price for commercial? No, not including the 1.9 million. That would just be purchase. We would need to operate the building after that. But but it wouldn't include like the fit, you know, getting it prepared for I guess just the point is I'm kind of surprised at the significant cost difference. I mean, I understand that where commercial office space co pricing is today. We we we we've been told like industrial space is doing well in terms of leasing and purchasing, but uh you know commercial office space is still tanked
112as a result depressed market. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Well, so to to your point, I mean, it would it's it's probably the best time to buy commercial space if we were going to do that. I think that's I mean that's the other questions, comment, Miss Kro. No, I I mean generally I'm just disappointed that we couldn't do this because I feel like it would have allowed us parking in that area, give the central administration a better working environment. I the the Fina is old and it's dated and we want to attract administration there and families go there and you know it just there's an it just is not up to par that I'd like the community to see our leadership be in of all of the whole thing. So that just makes me just disappointed
113that we cannot work this out to get a better environment there. It's I I just want to be clear that it doesn't mean we can't. I'm I'm just saying that if if if we if we had to put a priority towards the use of resources, that's that's what I'm I'm trying to say that. Other comments, questions, Miss Just a really quick one. Which lot is lot B? Lot B would be immediately above the U auditorium area in what is now grassy space. Thank you so much, Mr. Scroll. I do feel like we need to look at the trailers though. I think they're awful. They don't look right and I and no one should be working in the trailer for years on end with no projection in sight and it's just Yeah. Thanks. Any other questions,
114comments, Miss Graph? Yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to reiterate what Mr. Winters said. At 12,000 square feet at $15 a square foot, which I think is a pretty healthy number, it's at $180,000 a year versus the 300 225 to 300,000. So, it is a significant difference in terms of if we're looking at that over the course of the year. And there's no comparison in here on operational costs. I have to imagine that that costs us a fair amount to to manage, especially with those trailers for heating and cooling costs and the fact that we don't have any parking for visitors because I've been there and had people say they had nowhere to park. They weren't sure where to park. So, like there are some things that are not necessarily just dollars and cents considerations that
115I think to to Miss Kro's point, we need to be looking at this. I am I am far from saying this assessment is sufficient for me to say we should not consider moving admin offsite. And I would also ask our engineering team to weigh in on that space could be really important to the project. If they're doing renovations and work on site, they're going to be taking up parking spaces on site. They're going to be taking up some of our space on site that we're now using for other things. that that additional square footage for space may be very very important to us moving forward. So I don't think that we should be quick to jump and say you know because of this cost it's it's prohibitive. I think it just needs to be considered
116in the bigger picture with all the other costs. So and graph that's exactly what we're saying here as part of number one. There's no im if there's no immediate benefit and I think we need to do that study. We've talked a lot about how it could benefit us. Um but but you're but I but you're absolutely right. Um any other comments or questions on that? Seeing none. Thank you Dr. Sergini. I believe bear with me one second. I believe that ends our our guests and scheduled speakers uh for this evening. I will say that we did have uh one public forum where we had 12 members of the public uh visit us. We will provide an update um after the next public forum which is scheduled for Thursday of this week. Are there any other
117questions on high school uh matters or anything presented here this evening? Mr. Wyers, uh Dr. Sergini referenced um high school utilization. I assume we're going to get more about that later on in either September, October. Is that correct? Thank you. Any other comments or questions? Miss Clary, the public forum that you're hosting on Thursday, is it going to incorporate what we've talked about tonight or is it like what's the how are you proceeding on Thursday? Yeah, we we we're going to be talking about that on Wednesday, but likely we should be uh incorporating some of the discussion that occurred here this evening as uh more directional in terms of uh where we're where we're going. Y and and it did not at the the previous meeting. That's why I'm asking I assumed. Yeah. We will
118move on uh to rest of the agenda for this evening. We'll have uh uh board honor role and M awards. Uh next week we have uh reports as well. In addition to that, we will uh uh introduce and appoint uh student uh board representatives. With that, um we will take on the fiscal items. Miss Duffy. Uh thank you, Dr. Zerby. There are nine fiscal items um for your consider fiscal items for your consideration. Item 10 A, list of bills. 10B, treasures report. 10 C, budgetary transfers. And 10D, service agreement. Approve service agreement with Serpass Behavioral Health for consultation and therapy services for the 2526 school year as attached. Any questions for Miss Stephy to my right? Any to my left? Seeing none, move on to personnel item. Dr. Serjini. Thank you, Dr. reserv for the
119consideration of the board this month. There are the following personnel items. There are three resignations classified. All of them are resignations for retirement, including Quinton Swift, custodian at Arcola after 25 years of dedicated service to Mthactton. Kristen Bar Jones, personal care assistant at Arola after 20 years of dedicated service to Mthactton, and Bridget Nami, uh, custodian at the high school after 21 years of dedicated service to Mthactton. The Mthactton family is grateful to Quinton, Kristen, and Bridget for the many ways in which they made our schools a safe and clean and welcoming learning environment for our students to learn and grow. And we wish them the very best in their well-deserved retirement. There are eight employments classified. Jeremy Reml, bus assistant at transportation. Eileen Michechum, par professional at Arrowhead. Matthew Comr, part-time office assistant at
120Sky View. Haley Chrisman, part-time office assistant at Warsester. Robin Vagnoni, power professional at Arcola. Dana Fornicola, power professional at Arcola. Terresa Lambert, personal care assistant at Arc Colola, and Hunter Piso, monitoring assistant at the high school. We welcome Jeremy Eileen Matthew Haley, Robin, Dana Teresa, and Hunter to the Mthactton family. There's one change of status professional John Hudinger from health physical education instructor at Arcola to assistant principal teacher on assignment at Arcola. We thank John for taking on this role. There are two uncompensated leaves professional Dana Visanka, eighth grade reading instructor at Archola and Marley Magcguire, speech language pathologist at Warscester for the dates listed. There are two uncompensated leaves classified Fallon Heines, personal care assistant at Arcola and Maryanne Rich, PAR professional at Sky View for the dates listed, supplemental contracts for sponsors, pupil
121service department items, a fall coach and mentors and two additions to the classified substitute list. Norman Turner III, custodial casual on call and Adriana Amichi, support staff casual on call. Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Sugini. Any questions to my left? Miss Purdue. Thank you. Um I just have one in reference to 11H um for the um assistant principal um for the TOA. How long are those typical four or how long do we think this one may last for? Likely for several months. We have engaged the process of hiring a new assistant principal with the retirement of Mr. Thompson effective actually today. So we are going through that process. We anticipate u a hopeful bringing to the board in October a successful finalist. In the event that that individual does uh currently work in another school
122district in Pennsylvania, we would expect a 60-day hold which would take us into January for the start date. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions to my left? Seeing none, to my right, Miss Clary. Um Dr. Dr. Sorgini the um 11M the um the mentor supplemental contracts when I opened up that attachment all the um the pay the pays were were different um is that just based on where that individual falls within the MEA contract not within the MEA contract when they joined us and how long they're going to be a mentor so whether it's a half year or full year and additionally if it has not been the entire year if they're starting somewhere later in the school year when these individuals start. Thank you. See any other questions for uh for that? Thank you,
123Dr. Sereni. Uh no items under curriculum and programs uh policy. Uh there are um several policies under 13A for first reading uh for your consideration uh next week. There are no policies for approval under second reading. And there is one notice of intent to repeal uh policy number 808.2 2 cafeteria point of sale. Are there any questions or comments uh on matters related to policy? Can I ask about the um 808.2? Yeah. So um the reason why um we have it on the agenda as an intent to repeal is because it's covered some of it is moot now and not um applicable anymore. And then the rest of it was covered in the other two policies that you see there, 808.1 and um 808 food services. Thank you. And that needs to sit on uh
124for two consecutive board meetings before approval. Yep. Thank you. Um under other, we have gifts and and donations. Approve the generous gift from uh Mr. Ross Chapman towards the backpack program in the amount of $52.28. approve a generous gift from residents of the Shannondelle community uh for the Wood Wood Woodland Nurse uh suite uh with identified student items in the amount of $350. And the third approved the generous gifts from residents of Shannondelle for Eagleville nurse uh in the amount of $350. Uh there are some uh transportation approve the driver of Matthew Jabar. And that ends uh the items for next week's consideration. I'll turn it over to Madame President for dates members calendar. Uh dates for board member calendar is listed. We just note that September 24th next week is on a Wednesday and
125not a Tuesday for the regular board meeting at this location. Um other meetings are there listed. Anything for old or new business? Seeing none, we'll move to the courtesy of the floor. The board of school directors will now provide an opportunity for residents to make comment on matters that are or may be before the board. The board asks that you keep your comments at 3 minutes or less and the board of school directors may choose to respond to matters following the conclusion of the comments. You could submit your questions via email information.org. Jim Warcester. Um, I'm going to say it again. I've been saying it for three years. You can't afford it. You couldn't afford it. you can't even afford 1A. I don't know what you guys are thinking about. You know what you're supposed
126to be thinking is what do you absolutely need? Not like, oh, here you go, guys. We got 150 million. Go see how you can spend it. It's absolutely the thought process is ridiculous. What do you need? What do we need? We need HVAC number one. 18 million according to your engineers. What else do we need? That's what you That's what you guys should be thinking instead of Jen's like, "Oh, here you go. We'll give you the money. Figure out how it's going to work." Same thing with Miss Graph. I don't get that approach. Um, Miss Graph, you told the consultants that if they could build you, and actually you said build me a school for $150 million to be a star. They're going to build you your own private school. I hope you pay for
127it. You know, they're building us a project, not you personally. Um, you know, the consultants, if you give the consultants 150 million and or and tell them spend it, they're going to spend it. You can't afford 150. You can't afford 120. Um, Miss Kangro, um, have you thought about the bare minimum? Have you thought about what you absolutely need instead of saying do one A? Same thing with you, Miss Graph. I mean, you still want one B. If you could get one B, you get one B. You can't get 2B. Okay? You cannot afford 2B. Can I say it again for you? You cannot afford 2B. So, do you get it? Quit thinking about 2B and spending 170 million bucks and finding ways to let's spread it out over 10 years because the problem you
128have is your Bureau of Veraritoss FCI study that shows that Mr. Sorggini's presentation about the master plan is not correct. You're not spending enough in 10 years. According to this, you need a new Woodland and a new Warcester Elementary because the FCIs are in the school is basically done. Time to rebuild. So your master plan is off by, you know, you need two new schools. It's probably off by 50 million. So why doesn't somebody, you know, you guys love Bureau of Vveritas, go look at the FCI analysis. Thank you. [Music] Good evening. John Andrews, Lower Providence. My thoughts on high school renovations. Inputs are needed from the public, staff and students as it is an undertaking for the next 50 years. First public forum had only a dozen of the public. I call that a
129scandal beyond pathetic because of the parcity of advanced notice. Directors queried about publicity in August to no apparent avail. I have long argued for pages of text, not a throwaway postcard. Perhaps there was no publicity because the project isn't ready for view yet and this evening certainly uh supports that. Most of the improvements need simple and clear justification of cost and benefit documents. For instance, defend an eight lane pool versus a sixlane pool. Detail why a new auditorium with what size and features is needed. There is harm not benefit to relocation of fina in the high school. It needs parking spaces and shuts down admin when MEA strikes. About parking, why can't grade 11 students ride our buses? There is no plan yet for phasing contractors and modular spaces. Students see a need for a
130new second floor corridor. Zerby is anti it. We deserve serious shredder input on it, either supporting it or knocking it down. Perhaps grade nine could be at Arc Colola during construction. Arc Cola is an under is at under 60% capacity. Replacing a two-story classroom wing to fix eight small classrooms makes no sense when we have over 100 small classes. And I presume that the small classrooms are currently in use. What exactly what law prohibits new fina construction? A law prohibit that law if it is accurately uh described is ridiculous. Placement in front of Eagleville appears possible for for new construction and the soontobe vacant Lower Providence Municipal Building is a possible replacement for Fina. About the apartment, why here if it is for postgrade 12 use? Doesn't the MCIU already have an apartment? And I
131think it's good and constructive of the recent involvement of doctors Regina and Sorgini in all of this activity. And last, thank you. [Music] Amy Smith, Warcester Township. Um, thank you for the presentation this evening. I I thought it was very interesting and and a lot of good conversation. Thank you for taking on these difficult decisions uh regarding the high school campus. um the majority of the community that I've spoken to recognizes the need for improvements and knows that this is a huge undertaking. So, thank you for for um handling that. Um I have a question. We have a new director of school security and safety. Um, I I'm just curious in in the conversations that are taking place, is that director directly inputting what what's what we're looking at in terms of the high school
132campus and what the is in the 10-year plan um for the buildings. I personally have some concerns about Warsester Elementary and and how the front of that building is designed and and um you know how AC access is u in that in that school. Um, and just as we're talking about the high school with everything that's going on in the world right now and and how schools are um targets of of violence, um, you know, what are we what all is in place? And and I know it's something that you've been talking about for years, but just right now in this day and age with this expert now on staff, you know, what are we um looking at in terms of of security when we're talking about renovations, especially security during renovations? um those types
133of things have been were in my mind while while you were discussing things here this evening. And uh just one other comment I'd like to to take the opportunity to make since I'm here. I just want to compliment the schools, the building principles, the teachers, and the staff for their well done back to school nights. I know they're not all over yet. I still have some more to attend myself, but um as a as a member of the Special Education Alliance Home and School, I've been able to go to multiple uh back to schools, even the ones that are not for my kids. And I just can't stress enough how professional and genuinely excited to see the parents, to interact with parents, to make those connections that this that the staff are are showing. Um
134conversations I had last night at Arcola were just extraordinary. And it is my youngest that's a student there. I kind of know a lot of the teachers that are there, but those new teachers, they are full of energy. They are excited. They are fully enga. It was just awesome. It was really, really awesome to see. So, since I'm here, I just wanted to pay them that compliment. Um, they're really representing mythactwell and just making me excited that my kids a part of it. So, thank you. Thank you very much. Seeing none other for courtesy of the floor. Any comments or questions after the courtesy. All right. Seeing none, can I have a motion to adjourn? Oh, yeah. Sorry. What? Well, sorry, Miss Steele. No, I just wanted to um to echo what um the the
135thank you to the staff and the and the teachers and the administration for the back to school nights. I've my husband and I have been to more than one. our our family spans three schools right now and uh they really are well done. They're really well done. They're well attended and um they're extremely professional and very energetic and and positive. Um and my my husband did not get lost in the high school as we have a freshman. So the directions were great. So um I just wanted to share that. Thanks. Fantastic. Any other comments or questions? All right. So seeing none, can I have a motion to adjurnn? Mr. Mr. Winters and Mrs. Clearly meeting is adjourned. Have a good evening everyone.