001Okay. Good evening everyone. I'd like to call the April 29th, 2025 school district board of directors meeting to order. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Hello everyone, how are you? My name is Peter Chanok Galvin. I'm a fifth grade at Sky View. The first thing I would like to say is thank you very much for giving me an opportunity to stay here with all of you. This is an honor for me to share this time with you. Thank you very much for all your hard work doing everything to make Sky a better place to enjoy learning for everyone. I'd like to share with
002all of you. I'm so thankful and glad to be at Sky View. I love all the teachers because they're so kind and respectful every time they stay there for us. I'm so grateful, safe, and happy to enjoy my time at Sky View. I love to participate in all the activities that I can be in. I love all the events that I was in like chorus and I enjoy my time with my teachers for helping me grow strong and for me enjoying my time sky view. Thank you safeties for being there every single day outside on the street to take care of our students, teachers, and our parents. Even if it is too hot, too cold, raining or snowing. We really appreciate it. Our principal, Dr. Baro, you are the best for let us grow alone
003at Sky View. Thank you for this opportunity to to be here and share with all of you. Thank you very much for all your support you gave us. All the activities were amazing because we take time and enjoy ourselves. Thank you very much Dr. Z for all your support you gave to our school for making a safe, respectful and wonderful Makan district. I really appreciate it. Thank you very much. Tonight I'd like to thank both the students here from Sky View. We have Cora Loth who who did the pledge of allegiance and we did and Peter Tanokco who shared what he loves about Sky View. Thank you very much. And Madame President, let's uh issue the junior board certificates to our two students. If you would like, I do, if you want to take a
004minute to dismiss yourself, you're more than welcome to the families of the junior school board directors. This is a long meeting, but you're more than welcome to stay if you'd like. So all right, the public is hereby advised of the audio and video recording of this meeting for the purposes of rebroadcasting. All board members are present with virtually we have Miss Theel. Next on the agenda is guest and scheduled speakers for Dr. with Dr. Zerby. Thank you, Madam President. This evening, it gives me great honor to introduce uh principal of Sky View Upper Elementary School, Dr. Nicole Bareric who will recognize some outstanding individuals that have made our school community uh such a wonderful place to learn, live and grow. Dr. Bareric Thank you, Dr. Zerby. The Spirit of Methactton Award is an opportunity to
005recognize our students, staff, and volunteers. Spirit of Mthactton Award recipients are individuals who consistently model the qualities of the nine core values of the Mthactton School District. These individuals enrich our school community with their knowledge, commitment, and support. Those core values are motivate, empower, teamwork, heritage, appreciate, commitment, transform, open, and nurture. This year we would like to recognize Miss Hillary Craig, Mrs. Tanya Jones, Mrs. Emma, and Rachel Fitzgerald. Hillary Craig, who is a sixth grade teacher at Sky View. Miss Craig is a dedicated educator who empowers every student to reach their full potential by fostering a support a supportive classroom. She goes above and beyond to build meaningful relationships, ensuring that each student feels valued and understood. Beyond her classroom, she actively contributes to our entire school community, leading student council and spearheading initiatives that
006make our school a better place for all students. Her passion, commitment, and unwavering support for students truly set her apart as a role model for both her peers and the young mind she inspires every [Applause] day. Mrs. Tanya Jones has served as a positive team player since her first day at Sky View. She quickly became immersed in the work of PBIS and supporting all students. You can often find Miss Jones working directly with students at Sky View with a smile on her face. She goes above and beyond to support students with whatever they may need, and her genuine kindness and compassion are truly strengths. The relationships she has built with the students and staff at Sky View are meaningful and positive, and we are incredibly grateful that she is a part of our Sky View
007[Applause] community. Mrs. Emma, we are incredibly grateful for Mrs. Emma, whose dedication to our PBIS team helps strengthen the connection between our school and our greater community. Her positivity, effective communication, and commitment to serving as a liaison make a lasting impact on our students, staff, and families. As a PBI parent representative, she plays a vital role in supporting our mission and fostering a positive school culture. We truly appreciate her ongoing dedication to PBIS and helping us soar at Sky [Applause] View. And our sixth grade student, Rachel Fitzgerald. Rachel is a remarkable student who leads with honesty, integrity, and kindness in all that she does. She is deeply trusted by her peers and teachers alike, always willing to lend a helping hand and do what is right. Beyond the classroom, she showcases her dedication and teamwork
008through ice hockey while also expressing her creativity and passion in theater. Her strong character and involvement make her a shining example of excellence at our school. [Applause] Way to go. See you tomorrow. Yes. See you at work and early. Nobody's late. For those that we just celebrated, you are more than welcome to excuse yourselves at this time. As you know, this is a long meeting. So, go home and enjoy this beautiful weather. And thank you very much again. Honestly, thank you for all that you do. Next on guest and scheduled speakers this evening, we have the high school prioritization. We have the Shrader Group and C We have the uh the the shader group and CHA here this evening to help us uh set some priorities uh as we move into the renovation uh discussion
009and and design uh phase of of uh the high school. So with that said, we're going to ask Josh Grace to come to the podium. Members of the board, there is a couple documents uh in front of you. Uh there is the slide deck for which uh Mr. Grace will be going over here uh this evening. There's also a prioritization sheet uh that uh talks about all the same items uh but also includes the process here for this evening. Certainly uh you can use either of these documents as you're uh making uh the uh the selections here this evening. So with that said uh thank you Dr. Zerby. Will we be projecting anything behind the the board members? Okay. So, good good evening. While we're getting started, thank you. Um, tonight we have I think
010you all know um Mr. David Trader and we've got Eric Weiss who's on his team as well. Eric has been instrumental in providing um a lot of the uh preliminary concepts and a lot of the beautiful images that you guys have seen throughout the process. So, um, tonight really we're focusing, um, again on the existing high school campus and the existing facility. Um, understanding obviously that budget is first and foremost in this process, we really are looking for some additional guidance and feedback from the school board um to help us really develop the best options and look at the best opportunities within the existing facility to uh create a renovated facility or to provide improvements to this facility again within ultimately a board defined budget. So again, this evening, we're going to take you through
011some um initial priorities. I'm also going to briefly touch on what we're considering a baseline scope. In other words, these are infrastructure related items that are necessary for the building to be replaced, upgraded in order to provide um long-term uh support for the facility in whatever form it may take with um additional classrooms or re uh repurposed rooms, those types of things. So, uh with that said, if you guys want to just go through. So, um there will be two rounds of what we're calling the prioritization process. We're going to take you through a list of items. Uh the board members again will provide their input on um what they consider some top priorities. We'll do that for two rounds and then using those uh results. It's really going to help us in Shrader Group
012again develop the the key focal points for the main priorities. that's really going to help us drive um the program with you guys and again also the budget. Okay. So um I believe you guys have uh devices or some way of of um doing the uh the prioritization. We're going to go through some results as quickly as we can. It might take some time in transition here to get some of the results up, but um that's really the purpose of tonight. I'm going to take us through the slides. If you guys certainly have any uh questions, comments as we move along, we can address those throughout the process. Okay. I'm just going to ask a clarifying question. Do we want uh the members of the board uh making their selections as you're going through this
013process or are you are you planning to present and then we're going to give them time after the presentation to do the selection? Yeah, I think we should go through all options maybe to put some uh context around all of them as a whole and then the board can have the opportunity to go back and provide their input on what they feel the priorities are. Okay. So again um under baseline scope again these are things that the facility is in need of repair replacement. The life cycle for much of these items is at the end or in some cases even past the end of a typical life cycle. Um, so when we say building envelope, we're talking about what keeps the building warm, dry, right? So, we're talking about roof replacements. There may be some
014areas of uh masonry facade components that need to be repaired or replaced. Uh, we'll take a key look at uh masonry flashings and things that really keep the envelope watertight and and airtight. If there are opportunities for more efficient exterior window systems, we'll certainly look at that as well. there may be some you know energy savings or some need for replacement of ex exterior windows. Next HVAC system replacement. Um obviously this has been in the forefront of many discussions regarding this facility. So we will uh plan to replace the classroom unit ventilators. We'll look at the central plant equipment which is the main chillers and boilers providing the hot and chilled water throughout the building. uh the ATC the building control system which is the brains behind how the components operate would look to be
015replaced and any improvements that can be made to both outdoor air ventilation and the implementation of dehumidification obviously that's really key for providing a safe um and and uh healthy indoor air quality environment. So we'll be looking at implementing those types of improvements as well. Next, um, electrical systems. Obviously, there are, uh, newer technologies related to lighting. In many cases, there might still be fluorescent based lighting throughout the building. We would look to upgrade to LED lighting. Distribution equipment, which is your main switchboards, transformers, everything that provides the power out throughout the rest of the building, uh, would look to be replaced again if it's within that life cycle time frame where it's due for replacement. um improvements to the fire alarm system, data distribution, Wi-Fi, all of those types of things would be um
016considered under the baseline scope of improvements. Next, uh same with plumbing systems. So again, this this theme is really it's the core infrastructure uh the core systems that are supporting the entire building. Uh we would be looking at fixture replacements. uh if it's a water efficiency issue, if it's an ADA issue, maybe the fixtures are not entirely compliant or could be improved in compliance, we would look to replace those types of fixtures. Um we'd also survey the underground existing piping. We certainly don't want to pre provide a um new finishes and a newly refreshing building if uh some of the infrastructure is in need of replacement that is um not visible. So, we'd certainly uh take a look at the piping under slab as well. uh domestic hot water components, your hot water heaters, the
017things that we know from being homeowners and building operators are um under a life cycle time frame. We'd also look at those components. Um the building is partially sprinklered, so we would look at extending a fire sprinkler system throughout the entire building as well. Okay. Next, uh safety and security. Uh the systems uh that support safety and security, surveillance cameras, card access, perimeter security. We would look at the condition and look at most likely to replace or upgrade those systems. We'd also be looking at improved coverage for cell phone reception and for first responder communication. That's actually a code requirement these days. So, there'd be separate components and surveys performed in order to make sure that those types of communication systems are robust and reliable for the district. And finally, um ADA improvements. um we'd
018be looking to not only meet but exceed whatever code requirements there are for accessibility. So um that's again another theme that we've heard throughout the process is let's not just do the minimum in providing ADA compliance. Let's see what we can do about going above and beyond and making it as friendly as possible. So again that's the baseline scope. Um those are items that we as the design professionals feel should be at a minimum incorporated into the facility improvements and now we can go through the prioritization items. Okay. So um how did this come about? So obviously through the campus planning uh process there was a lot of feedback a lot of uh key points generated. You're going to see a lot of those repeated here tonight. And again um kind of take it in
019maybe have some discussion if needed and then we can circle back at the end once you've heard everything and you can start to provide your your input with all the items. So one item is the um removal of the transportation center from this campus. So uh by removing the transportation center there could be space reclaimed for parking. U this would also reduce obviously bus and driver vehicle traffic on the campus. So that is a consideration um for you guys. I can go as slow or as quickly as you guys want. If you guys want to have some discussion, if you want me to pause at any point, just go ahead and let me know. Are there any questions on the first item? No. Oh, yes, we do. Miss Purdue, and I don't know if this
020is um premature question to ask. I feel like we're at this venture or this junction because of the plan that we had laid out before is not feasible due to financial reasons, right? And when we talk about relocating the transportation center off site, I guess I question what is the cost associated with that? because the whole project is going to cost a certain amount and we had that dollar figure um available. Now when we start to look at I know this is for prioritization but it's hard to decide if this is something that's feasible within our with our knowing our current financial situation or this is something that's expensive. I feel like this was discussed before and it was something that we decided we won't do just because there's a cost associated with it. So
021to me it would be helpful to have some understanding of what this will cost us. And I'll probably say the same for some of these other things, but I do want to put it out there just because I see this and I feel like I don't have that information and I asked because it may be premature, but I do want to state that. Yeah, I think that we had a lot of discussion about how to best do the initial prioritization. There may be time in in the future uh that as a as a school board you'll need to you know even make additional prioritizations. In this initial prioritization uh we we do not have uh the cost associated with each of these items because the the uh the size and scope of each of these
022particular things could vary depend on how many classrooms or how much of this we do or how much of that we do. So what what this will help us do and correct me if I'm wrong Josh it'll allow it'll give the design team an opportunity to understand what to design towards which then could be able to provide back the feedback necessary of of the the associated cost in that that realm. Tonight is not one of those uh opportunities for us to include cost as part of that conversation. This is this is what I I think we ought to be working towards conversation and at some point in in the future we're going to need to have the cost conversation and we may need this the things that we really wanted to have we may have
023to pull that out at some point because of the the cost or we may be able to add some things in because of the cost. So, I hope that I hope that helps. But tonight's uh prioritization is simply about what we feel we ought to be working towards knowing that we're going to need to make a decision about cost and and finances in the future. We just don't have that at this period of time in this as part of this process. And that's understandable. I just really don't feel I don't know how we have this list here with some of these items that I'm sure is going to require there's a a a cost value associated with it. So if we are all selected that it makes sense for us to relocate the transportation center
024offsite and then later on down the line we come down to do the cost analysis and it put us in a position where when we talk about new construction it and we're at that price tag or more. What is the value in doing this when we may not we may be in a position where we so then at this point we're going to end up having to remove some of these things and I understand I just don't feel the sequence of order is where I imagine it'll be. I just want to state that out and be transparent. Um Miss Graph. Yeah. I think um when we were talking about this approach, one of the one of the reasons that we wanted to get the board's priorities was so that our engineer doesn't have to give
025us a price for each of these individual things because there's quite a few things on here. So let like for example, if the board does not have an appetite or desire to create a Fab Lab, then it's a waste of our money to have the engineering team give us a price for that item and then for us later to say that's not on our priority list. So the first step was to reduce the list to a manageable number of things based on what the board feels are the priorities and then get some cost estimate information and then come back and have another discussion because I think to your point there is going to be a second conversation that says you know we only have this much money and the things we have on our top
02610 list are more or less than that and we have to balance those things out at that Right. So, I think this is really a matter of what can we take off the list more so than what can we definitely do if that makes sense. Any other comments then we could Oh, sorry. Yes. Hey, thanks for this. Um, just one quick question. Um and I I I think I know the answer but I just want to clarify when we talk this is high level right there's at no point was there is there a discussion that if we were to move it transportation could go here that has not ever happened and that would have to be explored right but the concept is should we consider moving the transportation so we can get that parking area
027back right is this am I understanding that and did I ask that clearly? That is correct, Miss Steel. Okay, thank you. Okay, so if you remember from um the prior uh study with a new facility, um one of the considerations was whether to maintain uh the fina administration space on campus or within the building. Um similarly with this uh renovation type project that would still be uh a consideration whether a central admin is better off um better serving the district on site that we need to provide space and parking for or is there consideration to move that facility offsite. Here's how we'll do it. If there's any questions, all you do is, you know, go on through your mic and ask the question. Otherwise, we'll be here all night. So, um, with that said, you
028can, if you don't see anybody interrupting you, then continue. Interrupt away. That's that's fine. Okay. Another item um was looking to make a public sewer connection. Uh, currently, as you know, there is an on-site treatment plant that does require ongoing permitting, ongoing operational costs. U, the plan with a new facility was to connect onto Germantown Pike into a public system. So um again that's another item for consideration uh for the schoolboard. Okay. Uh similar to HVAC I think this is a major topic of conversation typically that's the improvement of traffic flow um especially at the arrival dismissal times. Um, what can we do to improve entrances, traffic patterns, maybe additional queuing space or parking? All of the items related to the congestion and the circulation of traffic on site. Uh, similar to that and um
029to the point that some of the board members are making, it is somewhat tied into the other items. So obviously if we do um remove the on-site sewer plan, if we do happen to remove the transportation building potentially used for um additional parking. So there is somewhat of an interconnection uh between some of these items. So essentially this is a pretty pretty simple heading increase parking. We need to increase the parking number on site. Um is that a major priority for the district? I'm so sorry. Um, so this is uh so sorry. If I if if one of us were to choose increased parking, could that then mean other things would be considered and I can keep that as one of my nine and I can not choose possibly others that might choose parking like
030does that make sense or should I include all the things that might be listed? Does that make sense? Yeah, I guess I guess what I'm saying is um voting for one does not necessarily mean endorsing the the other if if that makes sense. Okay. Um they can be treated they can be treated independently, right? Okay. Thank you. Sure. Also, can you just speak uh real quick when we talk about increased parking in the cost associated with water? Um if the footprint I but my understanding and we were at 43% or something I don't um if the footprint changed significantly with the amount of uh parking and asphalt that we have then the does that open up a can of worms related to uh water drainage? We we were um already over the imperous coverage percentage.
031I think we were increasing by maybe 2% with the uh final version of the original plan. However, all of the on-site storm water was captured within a new system. So again, any site improvements that we're looking to make, those uh those improvements would be captured on site instead of what you guys currently have now in the in the renovation as well. If there are site improvements. Yes. Correct. So if we changed nothing and took the the transportation building down, used it for parking, changed nothing about the other physical print footprint, what type of water drainage? Well, if we're if we're gonna get into an NPDES type situation, Department of Environmental Protection um for improvements over one acre, which is likely perhaps, um we're probably going to be looking at improved storm drainage regardless. Thank you.
032Okay. Next. Okay. Uh addition of storage buildings that would replace existing temporary structures or trailers. Uh they would be more permanent based structures or somehow incorporated into the high school facility. Can I just ask in reference to the storage areas, what are we currently um maintaining in the existing trailers? And um is this something that we're looking to with the addition or creating adding storage buildings? Are we looking to bring in the same amount Do we know what we currently have? Cuz I just know one of the trailers that I've been in is partly empty, right? So, there's no need to and there's probably opportunities to condense what we have currently. So, I'm just trying I'm just looking to see um what what is the need for the um storage buildings. I don't think we
033have a square footage associated with the with this. I I would say at the minimum it would be taking care of all this the storage needs that we currently have. Not necessarily building beyond that, but removing the uh the sheds and the uh uh other uh ancillary buildings that we have stored u machines and materials. Thank you. Okay. Next. Okay. So, separation of public spaces from classroom spaces. This really uh kind of ties into a little bit of safety security, building circulation. Um it it would be nice to have areas that are are easily cordoned off or separated from public use versus uh more traditional student use. So um if you again if you remember from a new type scenario that was kind of a key point in having some public spaces up front and
034being able to then separate or secure off the other classroom areas. So for a facility existing facility is that an important thing to try to incorporate as we look at possible opportunities with uh floor plan within the existing structure. Next, um, another item has been the internal traffic flow throughout the the building. Um, unfortunately, some of that is kind of, uh, set based on the the footprint, the sprawling footprint of the building as it is, but again, we're looking for opportunities that may exist within the existing building or existing uh, surrounding area. Can we improve uh pedestrian circulation and class change times um throughout the building? Next, uh addition of natural light, whether that be addition of skylights or enlargement of exterior windows to to bring in more natural light into learning spaces, offices. Um
035is is that heading again a priority for the district? Next update interior architectural finishes. Now this is uh something that may seem fairly evident to the district. Um I guess the extent of that would have to be discussed in terms of uh flooring replacements. most likely looking at the baseline scope of work that's being proposed. Acoustical ceilings which are the um you know the drop ceilings so to speak would be replaced. But we're also looking at other architectural finishes if there is ceramic tile, glazed tile, other floor finishes. Um is it a priority to bring the entire facility up um into a a more refreshed appearance and more consistent appearance? Next. So for the natiatorum, we have two uh concepts for consideration. One would be a renovation of the existing space which as you know
036contains a sixlane pool. There are difficulties with um ADA accessibility uh especially within the spectator area and the facilities within the niatorum. So um again one concept would be renovation in place with that sixlane size pool. And next uh conversely would there be a new niatorum facility uh created with um eight lane pool perhaps a larger pool uh obviously increased circulation for spectators and student athletes. All right. In in reference to the pool with renovation and um new pool. So I'm guessing the second one you talked about is the completely building a pool new from scratch. Right. Correct. And the inclusion of the six eight lanes. What is the I guess what is the lifespan of renovating a pool versus a uh versus building a new pool? The existing pool needs some pretty extensive repairs
037um in order to to continue operation. So it would be a very invasive process in terms of getting that existing facility um operational for the long term. It's certainly doable. It's It's possible. Um I won't say that it's necessarily the same lifespan as a brand new facility, but we could certainly make improvements that would take you another 20 to 30 years within that existing space. So what I mean probably still going back to what I mentioned before, but I mean for me to prioritize something like this, it'll be nice to know what the cost is associated with a new pool versus renovating a pool. because I'm thinking if based on what we're hearing about the current pool and a position it's in, it may be that having a new pool is the way to go.
038Um, but I don't know if that cost is feasible, right? So, it goes back to it. So, then do I pick renovate a new pool and then also or like renovate and then also a new pool? Do I pick those two as priorities to see where the price point is or is this something that if we all pick to have a new pool build and we come back and find out that we can't because it's too expensive, then we'll revisit having um a renovation. So, so this is a good one where we can certainly provide a pretty detailed budget estimate um for both options. Okay. And again, the purpose of tonight really is not to say that um depending on how the prioritization lands that the items near the bottom are necessarily off the table.
039That that's really not the point of tonight. The point really is to provide us with some guidance in terms of coming up with concepts, schematic plans. And again, it it all comes back to budget because we just need to understand how much of this building can we recreate in space in in its current environment or what may need to be partially demolished, rebuilt. So, you know, again, it's not that we want to take anything off the table completely tonight. We just need a little bit of guidance along the way. As Dr. Zerby said, "We're going to have ongoing conversations over the next several months about options, about prioritizations, and if the board needs some uh more detailed feedback or budgeting for specific components, we're happy to do that for you guys if it helps ultimately
040make that determination." That's fine. You answer my question. My question was just that will is there opportunity to have information on what that will be. It sound like we will eventually. Thank you. Um, I have a question. Uh, so following up on what kind of what Miss Purdue where Miss Purdue was going because I don't disagree with any of her comments tonight, but specifically with I understand what we're doing, but I just wanted to say that I agree with her comments with regards to budgetary numbers. I find this difficult too, but with the pool to me it's almost three options. Um, not that it needs to be on the slide, but with the sixlane pool in the where it's currently housed. It's my understanding that there's a cost to fixing it. There's you could put
041in a new pool to replace that pool, right? Those are Isn't that two different options in that space potentially? U as far as the actual existing structure of the pool. Yeah, the existing space, the sixlane pool. Uh the existing sixlane pool um around 2005 or so had a partial renovation with a new lining system, right? That is at the end of its lifespan that would need to be replaced. So we we'd really have to, you know, talk through what what is the district looking for from competition standpoint. Um so that's part B of my question. So if the board prioritizes a new 8 lean pool, my question for you is that would not be able to be in the current space. It would have to be created somewhere else, right? I just want to make
042sure the board's aware of that. It would be somewhere else. Most likely trying to retrofit that concrete structure to accommodate two additional lanes would, you know, probably just most likely it's it's it's that would be the case just because we're already under size with the deck. Yes. Listen, I I I know that. I knew the answer. I just wanted to hear that. Make sure everybody on the board was on the same page because we talked about that in the property committee meeting. Okay. Thank you. Okay. All right. Next. Okay. Renovation of existing team rooms and locker rooms. Uh that may include and likely will include partial demolition, relocation of existing walls. Obviously, um you know, the facilities supporting the uh the team rooms and locker rooms. Is that a high priority item for the board?
043And just to clarify on the team rooms and the locker rooms, this uh renovation is really to it it would include plumbing change outs to upgrade to current locker room standards. What we typically see in locker rooms today versus the 196070 locker room designs that we currently have. Is that what we're talking about? That would be the intent. Yes. So again, the infrastructure system supporting that we're grouping into baseline scope. I guess the question is the extent of reconfiguration or recreating new team room spaces and locker spaces. Okay. And would this also um potentially I know we have a number of team rooms, team locker rooms. Would this be keeping them in the existing sort of spaces just refreshing them or or reworking the interior of those rooms but not rebuilding the space? Do you
044understand my question? Structurally, it'll be the same space, just an interior rework versus reworking the whole side of the building where there's all the So, again, if we see opportunities as we're going through the process that we can say, hey, you know, it really makes sense if we relocate this team room here. We can we're planning on disturbing this area anyway. Why don't we shift this here and maybe put another program where it currently stands? So, but yeah, essentially for you know for tonight you can think of it as evaluating think of it as keeping them in place interior building renovations. Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Next. All right. Uh creation of a fitness and wellness center. Um that would include weight equipment, aerobic equipment, and you know could potentially used for staff as well as
045students and athletes. Um, is that type of uh wellness program or room a priority? Uh, similar with um indoor track. Um, I think uh many of the facilities that the board had to other high school facilities, that was one thing that kind of uh, you know, sparked some interest and had some uh, some pretty good discussion. So would it be beneficial again for an indoor uh track within the building? Obviously it's not a full-size track uh be more for fizzed classes and for um other you know running training but would the incorporation of that type space inside the building be a high priority. Okay. Next uh creation of a life skills apartment transition space. So that would help um those students with independent living skills that would then help them transition uh post high school.
046Next, uh creation of a school store and or cafe uh that could be run by a special education program again for job skills uh life skills for trans transition uh after graduation from MACT. Next, uh, recre reconfiguration of nurse and counseling spaces and the creation of a career center. Um, we are, you know, looking into possible relocations or reconfigurations of some administrative spaces, but specifically for nurse and counseling, would the creation of a uh career center be beneficial? Next, uh, creation of a steam center. So this basically would be a suite of uh common theme technology type classrooms supporting science, technology, engineering, arts, mathematics. Would a uh a a common building location that would promote um some collaboration and cross talk between classes, is that a priority? large group instruction space. Uh obviously this, you
047know, LGI, this this is kind of what we're talking about here. Uh seating for approximately 100 these types of spaces. Um and I don't know if if necessarily it's the addition of more uh more so than just supporting large group type spaces within the footprint. uh with the library, you know, we've used that location for some public meetings for the high school. Um it's it's a wonderful space to to have presentations and provide some space for communities uh to come together. So would we retain a space a library type space within the building uh for exactly those types of purposes? You know, understanding things are going digital quicker and quicker, but um it is nice to have that type of library space available. Is it a priority? Next, uh, creation of a fab lab. So,
048fabrication technology. Um, again, I think that's another topic that we've spoken about several times. Um, is a creation of something supporting the robotics and and some of the steam related uh curriculum? Is a creation of a fab lab also a priority uh within the district? Okay, similar to the natiatorum, uh we have kind of two uh options with the auditorium. One would be a renovation in place. So that would include new finishes, new seating and new sound and lighting systems to support theater arts. The uh existing seating capacity of 675 would remain the same. Um, so again, interior refresh and systems upgrades, but within the same footprint, the same location that it currently is. Sure. Um, would that include a resizing of the stage? And would that include um as part of that changing rooms
049and and those kind of auxiliary room spaces that you would need backstage, that kind of thing to what what we need to be sensitive to, I think, is ADA access first and foremost. So, if there would happen to need um any reconfiguration of of stage or even chairs in order to help accommodate that, I think we'd have to look at that. Um otherwise we would be looking within that existing building area to recreate rooms. Um there wouldn't be an expansion or additional space created exterior of of the building. Okay. So it would not resize the undersized stage. Not necessarily. No. But it would likely repair the uh the stage in terms of its uh the divots in the stage. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Next. So, thanks. Um hi. Sorry. I and I I I apologize
050because I'm gonna have to back up a little bit because my I was just trying to process um the creation of a fab lab and then the prior the creation of a steam center. Can you just tell me the difference between the like the thoughts between the two? I think I understand it. One is just to put all the science, tech, engineering, arts, maths in one area and a fab lab is a practical application place for this. But can you can you just speak a little bit to that? So I know in prioritization that sense. Yeah. And essentially you you hit it on the head. So the steam center really would be do we need to uh relocate or provide interior renovations to create an entire suite of classrooms that are similar in nature. the
051Fab Lab, you know, is there a location within the existing building, maybe not adjoining other science and technology areas that we can create a Fab Lab type area for. Okay, thank you. Okay. Okay. So going back to the auditorium again similar to the pool the uh other option would be for a new auditorium space you know with that could be some flexibility with support spaces uh changing areas stage how the stage is set up how it's accessed we would still look at a target seating capacity of 675 to be consistent with what is currently in place um but again that would provide some additional opportunities with really providing a more flexible and ADA compliant space. Um, so you know, I I like that auditorium is on this list, but what I don't see was some
052of the input from the community about not just the auditorium as a performance space, but as our whole a renovation of of where our whole that whole arts curriculum takes place in terms of music as well, chorus, all of that. So, I am, you know, I I'm kind of disappointed to not see that on here or have that as an option because, you know, the chorus room, the band room, they also need attention here and I'm not seeing that on this list. Could we potentially incorporate those room areas into this build new auditorium if we wanted to? If the board agreed that that's what we were talking about with that item perhaps or we could maybe call an audible Eric I don't know are we able to change can we add another line item are
053we able to add anything at this point to that if that's the preference of the board we can certainly add that at the end I don't know which Miss Olson would prefer whether we wrap it into the auditorium line item or we create a separate line item that would say create art theater band music programming space. Well, to to me they are separate items because I believe that you know when when I think of the auditorium I think that of that as a performance space. When I think of the associated rooms where rehearsals take place for band chorus drama like all of all of that dance um all those rehearsals taking place for for the performances that will be held in the auditorium to me that's curricular. to me that's core to what we're trying
054to accomplish as a district. So I I think it's quite appropriate for it to be a separate item. Okay. To prioritize those arts. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for those comments. Next. Okay. So in the original uh portion of the building especially, there are uh several classrooms. I think about six or eight at least that are undersized. So, uh, PTE does have a standard of 660 ft in order to provide uh what they call FTE or capacity. Um, so we would be looking to not only just meet that 660, but actually create rooms that are about 850 square ft, which would be more appropriate for high school instruction. So, um, again, that would be for addressing any of the existing typical classrooms that are unders sized and getting them into a more consistent size for the
055rest of the building. If you're if you're going through a rehab, is there a requirement of PDE to address this or not? Uh, no, but you just you won't get capacity for those, but there's not a there's not a legal requirement to get these to code or whatever recommendation, I guess. Not at the moment. No. How many classrooms did you say are under are under the six? I believe it's six to eight. They're mostly are they in that front hallway? They're mostly in the portion of the building outside of the auditorium both on the first and second floor of kind of that western or end of that original building. Okay. But that's it. I'm just surprised that I would have thought there'd be more. That's all. There may be some spaces that are used for
056individual instruction or small group instruction, but if we're talking typical classroom space used as classrooms, there's six to eight. Okay, thank you. Okay. Provide additional small groupoup collaboration and flexible learning spaces. Again, that was kind of a key component under a new uh building in terms of providing flexibility for instruction. So promotion of collaboration, um flexible learning spaces, not having kids sit out in the quarters to do any small group work or um you know to have furniture and classroom spaces that kind of work together and provide more flexible educational spaces, creation of teacher planning centers. Uh this again was a topic that was briefly discussed under a new build situation. So what that essentially would do is provide a common office area uh for teachers. They would not necessarily have their own individual classroom
057in that case. In fact, that's kind of the the point. Um there would be savings in square footage with the integration of teacher planning centers. Um, we've heard comments and and had, I think, pretty good discussion a few times about this topic, but we're again putting it on the board for consideration. Um, again, because it it affects square footage, it could ultimately impact budgeting and uh cost of renovation or additional areas. So, it's back uh for consideration tonight. uh creation of a common space that would enable the lunch and learn program. Um I think Dr. Zerby could probably speak to the specifics of this program much better than I could, but uh the creation of additional cafeteria and uh collaboration learning spaces for lunch and learn type program a uh commons building common space would
058support that type of program. Okay. Retain courtyard and outdoor learning spaces. Uh that again was a focal point not only for some educational opportunities of instruction outside but really also for building circulation if it does happen to uh improve flow from class to class by using an outdoor courtyard pass through or courtyard space. Um is that a key priority again for the districts? Okay. And I guess the last one would be our music and coral and band suite improvements. Okay. So, I believe the board has the summary of all those. Um, does anybody need to return to any comments or or points, any additional discussion before Okay. Um, I have a couple questions. Do we the baseline scope that you outlined here? Do we have any cost estimate on that portion? We we uh not
059at the moment, not tonight for a baseline scope, but that's something obviously that we are going to incorporate into the preliminary budget as soon as we can kind of fine-tune some of the other feedback of the prioritization process. Okay. And then my other question is um about the the sewer relocation being um one of the options um because that really was included as a default in every scenario that we looked at for the new build um and then we did receive a detailed presentation from Dr. Seni about the importance and the um rationale to move that. So I wonder if that should be included in the baseline scope. I just, you know, we seem we seem to be putting it as a baseline item almost in everything that we were talking about. So I'm just
060want you know instead of using one of our items, it seems like that should be a no-brainer almost that that's just my feedback on that. I appreciate the feedback. Um I think many people had including many of the administrators thought that to be the case. But as if you recall when we were discussing about how to proceed forward with the potential renovation um we gave you a cost estimate of what that was going to cost and Dr. Sugene I don't mean to put you on the spot but I can't remember the number but it was it was very high two and a half to $3 million. Yeah. And so then and so so with that amount of money in this injected into this decision-making process u as a as a default I'll call it um
061will will will limit your ability to get some of these other priorities done. Um, and and while it's a it's a tough challenge as as you as you recognize, um, we wanted to leave that up to the board as as a as a whole to make that determination rather than to fit it to kind of shoehorn it in and and knowing that you couldn't get, for example, the band room or some of those other things. And then as just sort of as a followup without trying to put you on the spot for it, is there you know you you gave a detailed presentation which I don't remember all the details of. So not moving it if that's a low priority for the board and the community then what does that mean if you don't mind
062speaking to that off the off the top of your head? Certainly there are improvements that will need to be made to the existing sewer treatment facility. So it is something that we will have to consider in the coming years. It's okay right now, but down the line we will have to make improvements to it. Okay. And are would they be extensive? Like I I'm just trying to understand where that is in its life and to understand how to prioritize these items. Certainly we replace the sand field within the last several years. So that's okay. We are doing certain upgrades now to particular parts that need to be replaced, but within the next probably 10 years or so, we would need a full-scale replacing of the facility. I had one well I have two questions. um
063addition of natural light windows. Um can you explain that part just because I'm I'm just thinking I know we're not doing this is all for renovation. I just don't know if I understand that prioritization for that because I'm thinking I know when I've heard some of the talks or listening to some information of the things to consider when you you are doing a new renovation or a new construction or renovation. There's a great amount of things that have come out of the addition of natural light, right? Or based on the placement of the building. if we're doing a renovation. I just don't know if I understand how this fit into prioritization. So, if you can explain that a little bit more. So, uh one room in particular that jumps out to me from previous walkthroughs
064was an an art uh studio that I think was landlocked in uh this side of the building out here. And, you know, really I think the feedback was it's not a very inspirational space, especially for art. So, you know, we'd be looking at opportunities with especially with a re-roofing type situation. Can we add some supplemental steel provide some framing and get maybe some skylight, natural light into the space? Um, would the relocation of any certain programs to exterior walls, if they do happen to be landlocked, does that make sense to look at moving spaces? Um, again, if the condition of the existing windows is such that we're likely going to replace them, can we maybe expand them a bit and create more natural light? Again, these aren't these aren't the final decisions on on any
065of these topics, but it's the consideration of do you want to improve natural light as part of you're improving ventilation, you're improving HVAC, the creation or the uh bringing in more natural light could be part of that just to create the better educational atmosphere. Okay. So eventually this may mean more where some we may have to look at moving certain things around to be able to create that or add that natural light. It's not off the table. I don't have the answer for you tonight, but that's the consideration that would be where there's opportunity opportunities to add windows. It will be a consideration. That's what this part need. Yes. Okay. And I had a question in reference to the I believe it's the oh the fitness center and wellness center. Is that something that we're
066looking to have? I see here it say for um student and staff. Is that for all students and staff or is it just for the high school? I would have to defer to the administration on in terms of who would be able to access the space, but I I think generally we've been talking about for students and staff uh within the high school. Uh but you know, depending on the the size and the location of it, just like when we talk about the size and and location of a pool, I mean, there's there's no telling what opportunity we might be able to provide to uh the the larger uh student population. and staff population within the district. Okay. And I only asked that just because the way it's it it's here. If it's within the
067high school, naturally, we're limited, right? But if it's attached or it's a building attached to the high school, it probably provides more opportunity for other students or staff from other buildings. But I just don't know. I just wanted to see if there was maybe the a reason why it was listed here being that it's is it seemed like either or if that was something that was being considered just was that a discussion at all at property committee? No, we didn't. Um but I think it's a great idea. I mean, I I guess I guess my thinking is if that becomes a priority item, I would love for you guys to come back to us with ideas like this so that the board can say, "Yes, we would pay a little more to get an outside
068entrance to that wellness center so that it could be used for community use or or all the teachers in the district could use it." Um, you know, something like that. I I think I would just put that back on our engineering team to bring us those amazing ideas. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. I just want to pick up on a couple things that Miss Purdue was asking when and your response about windows um when you're talking about replacing windows. So, as part of this, are we basically I don't know how what in what kind of shape the existing windows are. So, are we looking at a need to pretty much replace all the windows here or just where we're working or We haven't gotten there yet, but um that would be part of the assessment.
069You know, I referenced the masonry facade components early on as part of the baseline scope. Um a building of this age, especially the original building, we'd really have to take a close look at brick and flashing conditions to see if any windows or finishes on the inside have been impacted by by weather. Um, so I can't definitively say we're definitely replacing these windows. We're not replacing these windows at the moment, but um, you know, more than likely if we're if we're looking at a complete refresh, um, windows are are typically considered as part of that. Okay. And then um going back to the fitness and wellness center as Miss Purdue was asking about is that um it's in here where it's talking about also team rooms and indoor track and it it's kind of bundled
070in with the athletic um renovations. So is that is is the intention for it to be a training room or an actual fitness wellness room I is the is the targeted student body for that the athletes or is it all? So when we when we were doing the uh the initial tours, we were seeing locations, for example, State College, those of you who was on that tour, um there were all uh sorts of use in terms of uh weight use as well as aerobic use and uh you know, athletes and non-athletes and and adults in there. Um this that's why it's labeled as a wellness uh uh center uh and fitness center not a weight room. Okay. Thank you. So my my comments are I think it's really hard. I think you know you going
071in now you're going to go in and kind of get like a facility overview and see we where we are and I think we all have different visions in our head right. So I think of like the health center with the locker rooms, the team rooms in one spot and I've got this auditorium that can have this opportunity for an expansion of the band and orchestra and back rooms of dance and you know and then I've got this academic space and I've got this science space. So I think the hardest part is is knowing if there was an additional build that would happen, is there opportunity that we could do one area or two areas of building? Right. So, in my mind, of course, you know, there's this auditorium rebuild that needs to be done.
072There's this there's a pool that needs to be done and there's an there's a s health center that needs to be built. So, there's like these three additions. So, that's in my brain and I think the other spaces could get reworked. So, I think it's a it's a it's a tough task to do because I think I'm I'm just visioning different ways that we could do the renovations with partial build. So, uh, um, I do think like as you take this prioritization and you go to the building and you see that the there's we really need to move the pool, we need to know that and make sure that we have to maybe look at it as a different space expansion and then we can't do the auditorium and the auditorium has to kind of
073be rebuilt. So, I do think there's that, but I as far as the other section I'm looking at, I'm just talking out loud is like there's this parking happening. The administration building, if we take that off, we can knock down the fina and have more additional parking, right? So, there we're all going to go through these different scenarios of what we think could be done. Um, but I also see that as a phasing opportunity as well. So the administration could be phased out, the sewer possibly phased out, the transportation phased out later on with our borrowing. So the way I'm just looking at I'm just sharing it to you all is that I'm looking at this health center, this arts, the science, the pool and the academic as my focus and this is where I'm
074seeing the other ones as being phased in later on. So I'm just kind of sharing my thoughts and if I can just add I I think I am okay with that also but I don't know if I get that from this right like exactly what are the opportunities to do this and phase in some components of it right I don't see that I mean I was going through and I'm already at nine and there's still some stuff on here that I will want right so It's it's not an easy ask, but I also don't know like what are the opportunities to phase in, right? Because definitely if I'm thinking about it, if we don't have the finances to proceed the way we were, it's it's very hard for me to prioritize relocating the transportation center
075or even the admin building when I don't know the cost associated with it. Right? I want to be focused on the high school first because that's I think to me that's where all this started from. So then if I'm if I take that off the table cuz I I just don't know if there's opportunities there, right? So it's hard. But if there's something that if we've talked about we think there's opportunities to phase in some of this, it may be easier to do, but I don't know if that's possible. Yeah, I think there's uh you know a little bit of prioritization versus strategizing challenge that that you're having and and I apologize for that. What I what I want to really just kind of focus back in on is is if we could is we're
076trying to kind of just get a general direction of the things that are important um or actually that are more important than maybe others. So that as we're creating these uh options and uh the um strate strategizing how to best leverage our dollars to get the the best bang for our our buck, we can we can try to meet not only some of these items in priority one or in priority two, but the way the instructions read, it says items receiving no votes, while they'll be discarded initially, these items may be reintroduced if and when the budget will allow. So just because we're making a priority and some things don't make the list, that doesn't mean that they're off the table, it just means that the team that's helping, you know, create the the vision
077forward based on those priorities isn't using those as the top levers to say, "Hey, we're going to get this done." So I think everything, you know, is is fluid in as part of this process. It's just a general direction. So I I and I understand your struggle between not having the cost. I understand your struggle between uh the strategy of how to get to the end result, but give us an opportunity to take these priorities and uh let the let the team come back uh with that. We may need to restrategize several times uh uh through this whole entire process. So I hope hope that's helpful, but um please please know that your work tonight is not does not end the conversation. going forward, Miss Clary. Um, so I don't disagree with what you said,
078but when I heard Miss Kerro and Miss Purdue talk about feasing, I do get a little I do get a little nervous because whatever that budget number is going to be, my understanding is like that's a bucket of money that has to last us for not just this project, but the other the other things that we have to do at our other facilities. Um, and and we do have some other things that that we definitely have to do and soon. So, so when I when I hear, you know, some of these items maybe we could phase them in later, I'm not so sure that's we don't have the numbers, but I'm not so sure that's the case anytime soon. Like, we may be stuck with a number for like the next 10 years. I mean,
079I'm just talking off the top of my head because we don't have the information yet, but so I don't want the board to necessarily say to yourselves, okay, well, maybe we can do that in the next three years. I I'm not so sure that's going to be the case. And I feel like we all do need to really look at all of these things and and look at what we do think is important. Um, so I I don't know. I'm focused on the money. Again, I hear what you're saying, Dr. Zerby. It is just it is hard. It would be nice if we could face things. I'm just not sure that that's reality. I'm not suggesting that we can or we can't. I'm saying that, you know, we what we need from you this evening
080is it's it's a hard ask to help us put the most important things first in the forefront to give us some direction and knowing that all these other things can come along if if in fact if and when they they are able to if if if they are able to. So there's it's an if and when which means it could be 10 years out, it could be 15 years out or it could be within three years and and it's if we're financially able to to to do it. So, um, but but but this team can't I don't think it's reasonable and and that's why we're doing the prioritization. And Miss Graph, you can, you know, you know, chime in on this, but the reason we're doing the prioritization is we can't assume that everything that
081we were going to get in the new uh plan, the last one that was presented to us uh from from the team u for a less amount of money in what's just now called the renovation. and and and with and with that uh is the reason why we're we're doing the prioritization. Yeah. And and maybe that's that's that's right. And that's sort of the point is if we want everything on the list, we need to build a new high school and that's $220 million, right? Last time I checked. Um and we don't have the money. So, some things are going to have to come off the list. Now, not necessarily as a result of what happens here tonight, but over time, we're going to have to make decisions about what we can keep and do
082and what we can't. And I think that's sort of what we want to try to get the first step along that path. And there may be horse trading that happens later because if we build a new auditorium, we could use the existing auditorium to become something else that we want and that doesn't cost us a lot more money. And so that gets us two things that we wanted. Or, you know, if you um renovate and build a new pool, then the existing pool becomes something else that you can get on the list that wasn't on the top 10 list or the top 15 items or whatever it was. So, there may be ways for us to work things together. But until we have some ideas of where we're going, it's really hard for you guys
083to design anything for us. And except a brand new high school that includes everything on the list from what I understand. Um, so I think that it just I think that was the point for tonight was really just to try to identify what is really important to the board. What are the core things that when you think about the high school, what are the things that you think are must do must have not worth spending the money if we don't have this? Is it a new eight lane pool? Is it a STEM center? Is it, you know, getting the arts program where it needs to be in terms of the space? Is it having classrooms that have light and airy spaces for our kids to be in? I don't know. But whatever those core things
084are to you, that's what we need to talk about tonight. That's what we should be, you know, choosing tonight to at least get us at least some information. This is really informationable about what the what the board sees as important. I would suggest we just do it at this point. This is the process we've taken. This is as good as any. we're publicly explaining what we like and what we don't like. So, let's go through the nine and go through the second phase here. And that's fine. Um, the questions I'm asking also because I do want people like our public and our community because they were part of this process to be able to understand why some of these things are on here and why we are prioritizing it this way and just an understanding
085of what it means, what certain buckets of things mean, right? And I and I go I'll go back to when we talk about the um the wellness center or the fitness center. So now it's something that is is something that's only for the high school, something that's for the community and everything else. But I look at something like the library space where if we're retaining the current library space within the building, why is that priority on here? I expect that at this high school we're going to have a library, right? And we're retaining it. So to me, is that needed on here? Is someone picking that? Or do that mean if that's not picked, it's no longer an item on here. So I also think, and I understand the goal we're tasked with, but I
086just think some of these items are not even necessary to be on here when we're thinking about prioritization, but I do want to ask the question so people are aware of the items that are on the list and what those the assumptions are behind it. So that's why I asked the questions to clarify. No, we actually we appreciate the questions for for clar I mean I want you to be comfortable, you know, picking your priority items, but we but I'm I'm talking about strategy of how to get to the end result versus prioritization. That's just I think those are two different things and the experts are standing up there to help us with that strategy. Um, and just two comments, not specifically related to this task in front of us, but um, picking up on
087what Miss Purdue was talking about, but you know, what the community community's perception was of priorities. Are we then going back out to the community to hear their priorities? Are we then introducing these ideas and getting the feedback and hearing from the community like like we did before? or is it that we already heard from the community and we understand what the priorities are and now we're pairing them down from the list that we know they chose. Um I think it's the second because you know there's nothing on this list that has been added uh from the original new construction that came from the uh the community groups. Okay. And then my second um comment is about uh you know we toured several new builds. Can we see some renovations? Can we can we do
088something like that? Because that would I think help me certainly visualize um what the end end result is here. We certainly can do that. Um we did as part of our tour. We did tour I believe a renovated high school. Um but we can certainly do more of that if that that's the will of the board. We can make make that happen. Are there any other questions related to either process or to the items uh for prioritization? Miss Purdue, um I just don't think our survey is no longer showing. I don't know if anybody else fought the survey on a computer. How do we get the survey back up to make our selection? Maybe it was being updated with the final too long. Sorry. You think so? Thank you for the conversation. Thank you. Are
089there any further instructions for the members of the board at this t time? So, we're asking them now to go through the list online on the chrome on the Chromebook and select nine your nine top priorities. And then when this calculates up those items that all have five that that have five selections to them, we'll will go into the priority one list and then we will remove those items and we will then have you do round two. So, just if you finish, just be patient, sit patiently till everyone's done. And Dr. Regina, you're monitoring uh Miss Steel to make sure she got what she needs. Okay. When when we're done when you're done selecting your nine. There should be a submit button. Eric, is there a submit button at the bottom of Yes. Yes. So,
090when you have your nine, click submit and then please sit patiently until everyone's uh submitted theirs. again. When you're when you're finished selecting your nine, just select the submit button and then uh I believe Eric will tell us when everybody's finished and then we can she she has access. I don't want All right, we have all our responses. and close that poll. Do we want to run through these now or wait till the end? I I think we should announce uh what the uh those that have received five votes um so that we can just make it clear on the record. So Josh, could you stand at the podium and tell us what the what items actually made the priority one list? Absolutely. Okay. So, we're looking for what, Eric? Minimum five. It was Okay.
091So, the first item uh hitting the five mark was improve traffic flow to eliminate congestion and car traffic. Uh the next is address internal building traffic, hallway congestion, and outdoor transition. Uh new pool with eight lanes and ADA improvements. Creation of a fitness wellness center. Creation of life skills apartment transition space. Uh create common space to enable lunch and learn program. Mr. Grace, the first one you mentioned was improved traffic flow. What was the second one you mentioned? Uh internal uh building circulation or or flow for students. The student representatives are very happy that that made group one by are the adults making the right choices. Okay, good. Thank you. Give me one minute. I'm just going to remove those ones from priority one list to the second poll and we'll reopen it for the
092second round. just let us know when we should start round two. Should be good to go. Work on getting it back up on the screen here. So, we're good to go for round two. So, members of the board, we're on round two now with the remaining items. These would be the nine top priorities of the remaining items. It looks like um some of the ones dropped off. They're the ones that got more than five votes. No, the one No, there's other ones that aren't on at all. So, did ones that got zero votes or one vote, did they drop off as well? No, everything's on except for the six items that received five or more votes. Okay, maybe I'm just not see I'll try again. Maybe I just So, the order does get messed up
093once he removes them, I believe. Even though I'm not seeing it right now, I imagine that's the case. Okay, thank you. She can't Again, after you've selected your nine, I believe there's a submit button at the bottom. You select that and then just patiently wait until the rest of your colleagues have completed. How many have submitted, Eric? We have eight of eight of nine. Okay, thank you. All right, looks like we have everyone. All right, so Josh, if you would be so kind to read off the items that have five or more uh selections. Okay, round two is the uh public sewer connection is number one. Uh second one is increased quantity of parking spaces. Uh creation of a steam center, creation of a fab lab. Uh build new auditorium and enlarge classrooms to 850
094square feet. And finally, improvements to the performing arts spaces. So, as the as the rest of the instructions read, um we would then ask uh I guess Josh again to read off the uh those receiving one vote but less than five. Um anything that was zero. Can we see that? Can we see it up there or not? Yeah. Okay. else. Okay. All right. So that so um are we satisfied with with the exercise? Okay. Thank you. Members of the board, are there any other questions? uh we will we will summarize this and get this in front of you so that they have it for uh later reference but u I do appreciate you taking the time and the thoughtful time to ask the questions uh to prepare for uh this evening and to make your
095selections. Any final questions uh for our guests and scheduled speakers in terms of uh this process? Miss Purdue, one confirmation. Did your second round include the auditorium? Okay, just wanted to confirm. Yeah, perfect. Just confirm. Thank you. Any final Oh, there's a question for Miss Steel. Go ahead. This is um more of just a comment rather than a question. Um and I I do want to thank the thank everyone. Thank you for this exercise because it was really it was good and meaningful. Um, I just want to maybe maybe the question is I realized that the retaining of the library space only received four votes. Um, does that mean that the designing would not retain the library space as it is right now at this moment and it wouldn't be prioritized? That that does mean
096that correct? Uh, it does not mean that that space will not exist in its current state. All it means is that we will be looking at other priorities um first in terms of uh trying to develop an updated budget and uh certainly as Dr. Zerby said, this will be an iterative process. We're going to be back in front of you uh over the next several months and we can certainly make ongoing decisions about the uh future of those types of spaces. Um thank you. I I appreciate that. And I I guess I do just want to say um I know that right now we we live in a and this is for your benefit as well as for the my fellow board members and and the administration and I guess we all know um we
097are currently in an age where a lot of things are going digital. However, the research on how our brains best learn and comprehend and how it transitions from digital to paper um is still coming is still being produced and being understood and digested. Um there's a new work out right now, how we read now that I'm currently working through and I I guess that space in particular and spaces for a library. Um I would just worry that um we I think we should think carefully about that. I know there are schools that are moving away from it completely, but it may be something we regret in 2030 years. So, as that is currently unfolding, that's just for everyone to say just because I feel deeply about that and I I feel the need to say
098it. I don't want us to regret that later on. So, thank you. Thank you so much. I just want you to just know that that space is staying there as it's current there. It will be retained. It will stay there. Just so you're aware. I'm not sure if you understood that per se. I I did understand that, but I know that things have been that there's only so much space to work with. So I just want I just felt the need to to put that there um because it's uh kind of vital of school and and our current society is moving to digital but that's not necessarily understanding in how the brain works and reads. So it just might be something when in hindsight I just wanted to put that in out there for information's
099purposes. Yeah, Dr. I would only suggest that when you guys summarize for for for us but also just put it on uh the board presentations as a as an addend attachment that people can see because it's very hard I imagine to follow online or in the audience. I I think my intent is also the summarize this process uh and share it back out with the members of our community so they know exactly you know where we are in in in the process. Um, so I I think, you know, we'll we'll we'll update the website uh to reflect all of that, but but but excellent suggestion. Uh, any other final uh comments on where we're at at this point in time. Seeing none, we'll move on to the Thank you, Mr. Rice, and thank you, uh,
100Mr. Shrader and Mr. Weiss. U, next on the agenda is the budget projection long-term borrowing update with Miss Stephie and PFM. Uh we met in finance committee uh meeting uh this past month um with the intent of uh bringing to the board here this evening a an update on our borrowing uh uh capacity ability along with looking at a longerterm projection giving borrowing. So uh just following up on a comment that Miss Clearary made earlier. We're talking about uh not only uh looking at the long-term borrowing needs of the district for renovations uh uh slashconstruction at the high school, but we're also looking at, you know, uh those items items of similar need across uh the uh the rest of the buildings in our district. So, in the finance committee meeting, we uh discussed about
101how to create a greater and a better visual uh with a longer term projection. Um, we have been working through that with PFM. Um, that I believe and and Miss Stephie, you can certainly uh, you know, add to this conversation if you so choose, but generally speaking, um, we're making some very good progress, uh, with the modeling of that and it's something that I believe will be easily understood. However, we're not prepared here this evening to share that with you. And what I I asked uh of in a conversation with our chairman of the finance committee earlier uh this morning is that um we we we we punt on on this particular thing to next month giving us an opportunity to have the discussion about that model in the finance committee meeting so that we're
102we're all wellversed and prepared and to understand that so that we can support uh those who are not on on the finance committee understanding that long-term borrowing. So with that said, um we will get them we'll get PFM scheduled for next month. We will bring uh the model uh to the finance committee meeting and we will uh plan to present either in the work session or voting meeting uh uh for the full board. With that said, that does end guest and schedule speakers for this evening. All right. Thank you. We will now move to reports. The committee reports are attached. And so from the MCIU this month, Miss Purdue. Oh, yeah. All right. So for the MCIU, I just know they had their legislative breakfast last Friday um where they provided information on current state
103and federal budget overviews and impact on um some of the budget cuts and they also held a panel discussion with some of the state representatives. I was in there, but I know other school board directors were in um on that at that meeting. Um there was also a discussion about prek counts and some impact based on um head start um status as some of the um for their program and just trying to figure out if the MCIU will be able to retain um grantee and I think they current as of now they are able to remain in place but there's a lot of discussion just based on how some of these budget impacts will impact some of the programs um that the MCIU receives federal funding on and I wanted to provide some of the
104legislative updates that the MCIU shared and particularly one and I don't think there's any impact to us in reference to a um US Department of Ed ended all approved and um late liquidation payments to LEAs seas ARB and ES funds um for and I believe based on that because they ended that I think Pennsylvania is currently owed about 185 million. So there's currently a lawsuit in place um for that just because some of the school districts that haven't finished using those funds are now in a position where they no longer have that to support some of the programs that they've implemented or programs that they plan to support with those funds. So I think more to come. Um, also I wanted to highlight the um on April 3rd, I believe the US Department of Education
105also issued a directive um requiring every state education agency um to certify within 10 days that they are complying with the federal civil rights law, including title um I believe it's six of the civil rights act of 1964 and the Supreme Court 2023 decision in students for fair admission versus Harvard. Um, and the directive was later amended to provide seas until April 24th to provide the required U certification. The PA Department of Education provided a response on behalf of all Pennsylvania eleas on April 9th. So I think there's a lot of information going on and just because we all we all know the current climate there's a lot of um impact mainly based on funding and a lot of changes. So I think the MCIU along with their um their solicit solicitators are monitoring a
106lot of these things and will pro continue to provide updates to the school district. So I just wanted to highlight some of that. Thank you. Thank you very much. We'll move to North Monco Tech, Miss Alustin and Mr. Murski. Yes. Uh the North Monco Tech joint operating committee met on Monday, April 21st. Um we heard from some electrical students who spoke about the work projects that they do around the school, including um recently an IT room renovation, um renovations to the property maintenance room, improvements to our board meeting room. Um they said that uh mo about 90% of the recently needed school electrical work has been done in house by the students which was really great and um just a really great hands-on experience for those students. Um we heard about enrollment and weight list
107update. Um about 402 students have been placed to date and there as of that date as of April 21st and there were 207 students on the wait list. the place students and their parents are invited to new student orientation on May 8th. And there are just a lot of dates coming up at North Monco Tech. Um on Saturday, May 3rd from 9 to 2 is the found North Monco Foundation car show. And um so that would be a great thing to go and see if you're into car shows. Um, and then there's a senior project expo on May 14th and then the senior recognition ceremony is on Wednesday, June 4th. Um, and that's to honor and recognize the students who attend and complete the programs. Um, so that is my update. Thank you very much.
108We'll now move to our high school board representatives, Marissa Dealo and Marin Wells. Hello. I hope you all are doing well. To start off, the school has been a buzz all April with theite excitement of prom. Prom took place on April 25th at the Sherin and King of Pussia. It was filled with so much fun, including dancing, dinner, and dessert. The theme of the prom was casino. After prom, many students attended a great postp prom at the high school. The theme was music with the hallways decorated and inspired by music stars from the past and the present. Also, there were many fun activities such as laser tag, cycle races, bingo, and many more. Unifi Track and Field had its first meet at Potts Grove and also their senior night was at Methactton. Good job to
109the Unifi Track team. On April 4th, the high school hosted a job fair for students in all grades. The careers range from medical lab techni technicians to engineers and firefighters along with other career paths and possible summer jobs. The Mthactton Theater Company had clothes for cash fundraiser on April 4th which took gently used clothes, bags, sheets, and other items as donations to help fund Mthactton's theater program. Good evening. I'm Marissa and the other student representative. The Warriors Performance Group had their showcase this month. It featured many unique dances and skits which talked about activisms, environment environmental concerns and mental health dilemmas that we are facing in modern day. We also had our Minithon event which raised four $48,545 for kids with cancer uh which is donated to the four diamonds foundation. Uh students were included
110with spirit weeks all throughout the time of Minithon. We had spirit days of tropical to jerseys and on the final day we wore our tie-dye shirts with our class colors. Orange for freshman, green for sophomores, red for juniors, and blue for seniors. The environmental club has been working hard to clean up our courtyard this month. They also sold tote bags at lunch for Earth Day to help fund their keeping up of our beloved courtyard. Best Buddies also sold socks at lunch for autism awareness, a spirit day called Rock Your Socks, where you're supposed to wear your silliest socks to show off your support. The outcome was great and doubled their sales from the last event. Mactton is also now selling tickets for our annual film fest which is short films and now music videos uh
111produced and written by our students and they are bring they are ranging from many genres from comedies that are action-packed and horror and suspense films and that is all I have to report for today. Fantastic. Thank you both. Um, at this time I will definitely allow you to be dismissed and uh, enjoy your evening and enjoy school tomorrow getting up nice and early. So, thank you. Thank you both. I appreciate your patience. Thank you. Have a great evening. You too. All right. We'll now move to the foundation report this month. Tonight, Miss Per will provide the update. Sorry, I have to find my notes. Okay. Uh, just a couple quick updates from uh, the foundation. First, a huge thank you for everyone who made the dodgeball tournament such a success. We had over a thousand
112participants and attendees and raised over $20,000. Uh, check our website for some photos and some highlights. Next, our Share the Love campaign is underway for teacher and staff appreciation month in May. You can recognize your child's teachers with a certificate and a personal message. Order by May 10th on our site. We're also excited to announce an alumni event at on June 6th at the Eagleville Tap House. All alumni and friends are welcome for a free night of mingling and live music. More info on our alumni page. Excuse me. We're currently seeking nominations for the 2025 Apex Award recognizing outstanding mythacton educators, staff, alumni, or community members. If you know someone deserving, please submit a nomination. Finally, save the date for our race back to school 5K on Sunday, September 21st. Thank you. Great. Thank you
113so much. I appreciate all that you got you and your organization do. Right. From communication, we have Mrs. Throwback. Good evening. I'm excited to announce that we will finally be launching our brand new websites on May 12th. When you visit methactton.org or any of our school sites starting May 12th, you're not you'll notice more photos of our own students and staff and improved navigation. We looked at the most frequently visited pages on our site and made quick links for those on the homepage so users can access the information they need quickly. We also improved the calendars, allowing families to view calendars for multiple schools at one time. As you recall, this project has been months in the making. So, I want to thank the members of my team, the technology department, and the website advisory
114committee for their feedback and hard work. I also want to shout out our student interns for their work to provide new photos and content for the high school site. We hope you enjoy them, and I look forward to hearing what you think. Our international festival was held on April 11th, and it was a huge success. Thank you to everyone who participated or came out to enjoy it. We had over 10 countries represented with food from around the world, dancing and music. More than 150 people joined in to take to take in all of the cultures. One student volunteer even told me how much fun she had and how she can't wait to participate in next year's event. So, it was a huge success. And finally, as a reminder, our community education summer camps are now
115open for registration. This year, we're offering Snapology and Science Explorers. in addition to our usual offerings. So, make sure you sign up now to secure your spot. We will also be requesting proposals for our fall community education program soon. So, if anyone is interested in holding a course this fall, please keep an eye on our social media and our website for that information. Thank you. Thank you. I'm excited to see the website. I know that's been a big big project to do. And thank you. You took over the 2 a.m. shift to postp prom. I think thank you for being there as administrator and being part of the the the event. It was pretty fantastic. It was fun. Right. All right. And now for the superintendent report. Dr. Zerby. Thank you, Madam President. Uh this
116evening on the agenda is the right to know monthly uh report and then a list of advisements 19 in total. Um and that ends my report. But prior to us going into the public uh uh comment on board action items, there are two corrections that I need to bring notice on the agenda. So if board members would uh look at 13E, items two and items three. Bear with me till I get there. on item two uh 13E item two um it reads in the uh in the in the dollar amount associated with there's an extra zero at on that so it should read $2,200 and then in item 13E number three the same error has has occurred. Uh, so again, that'll be $2,200, not whatever that number is. I can't I'm not sure how to
117even say that number, but um that's those are the corrections. And that ends my report. Thank you very much. So, we'll now move on to public comment and board action items. The board will now take comments on board action items. This is an opportunity for residents to comment on matters that are to be decided upon as outlined on the agenda. The board asks that you keep your comments at 3 minutes or less. The board of school directors may choose to respond to matters following the conclusion of the comments on board action items. Please make sure you state your name and municipality. Brian Ershaw, lower Providence regarding the superintendent adisements. Item 15, I noticed that the K to2 DEI climate counselor is moving on next school year. Um, now's a perfect opportunity to eliminate that that
118position and to take the money out of the budget. Um, since it'll now be vacant. Um, there's been no reports on this position for months, so I'm not really sure what's going on there. So, I would advise that that just be taken out of the budget. Um 9F, the staffing services agreement. This is a retroactive item. Can you tell me which policy allows a superintendent to spend over $8,000 before the board approves a contract? If you'd let me know that, I'd appreciate it. Regarding the budget, um reiterate all my past comments that have seem to be fallen on deaf years. Um, and none of my questions have really been answered, but with this tax increase, it's two times the rate of inflation. Over the past 5 years, taxes have gone up at 14% in total.
119You still have another month to make changes to the budget to challenge assumptions. Ask the superintendent if there any vacant positions in the budget, and if so, why are they necessary? Why is interest income understated in the budget? Why haven't the borrowing assumptions changed in the budget given this the delay and the the fact you're not building a new high school now and the delay in this renovation project um with the sale of the building or any autobon school expenses going to be removed from the budget. I haven't seen any changes with respect to that. Um, if we still have no info on why special ed costs increased 248% over the fast past five years and in that same department, why FTS are being reduced by 6 and a half and how is that possible?
120Is the current process inefficient? Some answers would be appreciated. Uh, regarding the police chief, u, the board should reject this position. It has not been justified. The only justification is so far to date has been other districts have this position and there may be a requirement down the road from Pennsylvania to have this position. And by the way, you have no idea what those requirements are going to be. So if you're not going to take it out of the budget, at least table it and push it off for half a year under policy. Is a district really still using fax machines, 45 year old technology? And why do you even have policy on it? seems like a waste of time to even review and update that on the sale of the building. Um, happy to
121see this finally happening. It's something I advocated for back in in 200 um, it's probably 2018 2019. A lot of projections of what to do with this space, a lot of proposals, community center, a track and field site, a lot of time and effort wasted, but you're now finally doing the right thing and selling this thing. I encourage you to vote for this, but the questions I have are as a result of this sale, is the district going to spend any money or is it being sold as is? Um, and what is the expected close date? And can any maintenance expenses be be removed from next year's budget? Um, and could you just tell me how much money and time and efforts been spent on this project till you finally decide to sell it? Thank
122you. Jim Warcester. Following up on Mr. Ernshaw's comments on DEI, I'll say it again. Scrap it. Save yourself 100 100 grand. There's no evidence that that program has improved test scores, grades, or college admissions. If you've got the data, let me see it. You don't have the data. It's not It's not doing your job. It's not doing what you think it's supposed to do. And the only reason we're going with this program is because you guys like it. 100 grand because you want a program, not because it's shown to do anything good for academics at this school. Um the um budget. You guys have a spending problem. You have a budget process problem. you have an overt taxing problem and I've been watching the finance committee do absolutely nothing. I've been at the meetings and
123I'm not hearing people at the meetings going, "Hey, let's cut this. Let's cut that. Let's do this. Let's do that." What we get is a presentation from the business manager who's already come up with, "Hey, we've had uh eight retirements." Well, I don't think they were forced retirements. I think they basically happened. There was no effort involved in, you know, people wanting to retire. Okay. Um, we also saw the restructuring of special ed. That was the other big cut that was made. Why wasn't it made four years ago? If we saved a million dollar this year on special ed, well, we'd be $4 million. We'd have $4 million more money with you guys working on cutting it four years ago when the problem was going on. We had four years of increasing deficits in that
124line item. 3 million plus dollars. The last one I checked. So, somebody needs to explain what happened with special ed, how it got away from you, why you didn't make these decisions to restructure 3 to four years ago when we could be have $4 million more money right now. I I think the whole thing, you know, 4.3%. You guys can't do better than 4.3%. I find it hard to believe. 104 $139 million and that's not enough. You got to tax us 4.3% because $139 million is not enough. It'll never be enough. That's the problem. Thank you. Good evening, John Andrews, Law Providence. I spoke to the board uh a week ago at courtesy of the floor at the end of the meeting and that was cut off. Uh but but uh so the courtesy of
125the floor somehow uh got left on the cutting board. But uh one thing I pointed out was I don't like the title chief of police and uh you know are we going to have a chief of business? Are we going to have a chief of finance? A chief of education? Why not have a director of police? I think there's some logic to that. And the idea of a chief of police, uh, as I said before, that that's typically for a much larger organization. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Seeing no other further public comments, we will now move to board meeting minutes. May I have a motion to approve the March 18th, 2025 work session and March 25th, 2025 regular board meeting minutes as attached? Miss Alustin, may I have a second? Miss
126Purdue, any questions or comments? Seeing none. All those in favor? All those opposed? Miss The Yes. Motion carries 9 to zero. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. We'll now move to fiscal items. Is there anyone that would like to take any of these fiscal items separately? Yes, Miss Clearary. Um I'd ask that we pull out um item 9K, please. Thank you. 9K. Any other items? 9K is the proposed budget for 2026. All right. All right. Seeing no other. May I have a motion to approve all fiscal items as presented with the exception of 9K? Right. Miss Graph may have a second. Mr. Winters, any comments or questions? All right. Seeing none, all those in favor? All those opposed? Yes. Yes. Thank you. Motion carries nine to zero. Thank you. All right. May I have
127a motion to approve the fiscal item 9K as listed? Mr. Winters, may I have a second? Miss Alustin, thank you. Any comments or questions on 9K? Great. Seeing none, all those in favor? All those opposed? Yes. Yes. Okay. Motion carries then it is 7 to two. We'll now move on to personnel items. Thank you, Madame President. For the consideration of the board this month are the personnel items as presented last week at the work session as well as the following additions. Two employments classified Norman Turner Jr. second shift custodian at our Cola Sky View and Matthew Sim, second shift custodian at the high school. We welcome Norman and Matthew to the Mthactton family. And two changes of status professional, both from floating nurses, staff nurses rather, to certified school nurse. Jessica Bruce at Warscester and
128Lori Brown at Woodland. We thank Jess and Lori for taking on these new positions. Thank you. Thank you. Do I have anyone that would like to take any of these motions separately? Yes, Mrs. uh Purdue. Um 10 C. 10 C is the job description for the chief of police as attached. Yes. Great. Any other items separately? All right. Seeing none, may I have a motion to approve all personnel items as presented with the exception of 10 C. Mr. Winters, may I have a second? Miss Clearary, any comments or questions? Miss Austin? Um, just about the the nurse. I just was wondering um just in general how the nursing works, like how who is there a head nurse? Is there just is there someone who I'm just curious in in our district who h how are
129nurses supervised? Who's what's the hierarchy there please? Uh they are actually supervised by Dr. Jamie Grain is the director of pupil services. However, there is a coordinator nursing coordinator and that department coordinator is Kathy Thompson at the high school. Okay. Thank you. Um that was it I think. [Music] Um I actually no I had another question. Um I have a question. It's actually under advisements. Um it is uh about Miss Davis moving from as DEI to Woodland. So just for those who might have been looking for the the DEI updates that have been presented to the board in the past, can we just go over and explain what the timeline was for the hiring and the movement just to understand what the gap is? Certainly when we were informed of the resignation of the previous
130DEI and climate co uh counselor uh we did post that position we went through an exhaustive process to fill that. We did hire Miss Davis. She joined us in March and she has been with us since then. It is now April. We did post internal positions that are available for the 2526 school year and she did u put in to move to a different position. So that's what's on the agenda this evening. And she she started in March but but she was she held I I'm just trying to remember. Yes, she had a hold at her previous employer for a significant period of time because we I as I recall those interviews were in the late fall maybe and that sounds correct and I believe she had a 90-day hold. She had a 90-day hold.
131So, okay. So, that explains the gap. Thank you, Miss Purdue. Is there a period of time from um employment until you're able to move to another position? There is not in the collective bargaining agreement. Great. Any other comments or questions? Yes, Mr. Winters. Yeah, I neglected if we could take uh item 10 and six separately for a conflict of interest. 10 and six, the chaperons. Okay. I don't know. Sorry about that. No problem. All right. Any other comments or questions? All right. So, do I have to do another motion then to approve that? Yes. No. Is there no there's no objection, I assume, to taking 10 and six separately as well? Is there any objections? Well, good. I appreciate that. So, you have a motion and a second to approve all personnel items other than
13210 C and 10 and six. Correct. Okay, great. May I have a motion to approve all personnel items as listed with the exception of 10 C and 10N6? Oh, Miss Graph. May I have a second? Mr. Mki. All right. Any comments or questions? Great. All those in favor? All those opposed? Motion carries nine to zero. Thank you. May I have a motion to approve the items of all personnel listed as 10 C and 10 N6? No. Oh, sorry. Do we have to do them separately? Yeah, please. Okay. Sorry. May I have a motion to approve 10 C as listed in the personnel items below? All right. Miss Graph, may I have a second? Miss Clearary. Right. Any comments or questions? Yes, Miss Austin. Just regarding um the job description, the job title, is is this
133the title that other districts are using as they as they hire for this? There are many that use chief of police. There are some that use director of public safety. Okay. Um and then I did have a question about the job description. Um or and I don't know if at this point we can add this in. Um, but I've been thinking about um, we've been getting, you know, we've been seeing and hearing from the public about bullying a lot recently and in the past and under essential job functions where it I'm specifically looking at number seven, assist in the programs of drug awareness, drug prevention. Um, I was can can we put bullying in there? can because I feel like this is really an opportunity where this person could collaborate with our K to2 counselors
134and put you know and really do programming in the district um and and work with them as especially if we're hiring for someone who is as we said you know very available to students and is going to be well known to the students. I just feel that could really add a layer of um assistance to our students. That's a an excellent request. I think we had a similar request from a board member earlier this this week. So, Dr. Sugene, I think you were trying to address that. And where did we do that? We addressed that in number eight, which was an addition collaborates closely with district mental health professionals, behavioral support teams, and district leadership to identify, assess, and respond to individuals in crisis, ensuring that policing practices, prioritize safety, deescalation, and access to appropriate
135mental health resources. Can we have the word bullying programs? Can we have that in here about about actually assisting with bullet? I because I understand that and that is very is the key element for you the word because there's a number of programs that see I'm thinking that there's a number of programs this this individual will be involved with. Um but if bullying is is important for us to spell that out here which which you know it may be and if it is we certainly can add that in. It's not something it's not that he would or the person wouldn't be doing this. It's just that we probably organize this so that it covers more things as a more of a broad stroke. But but if it's important to the board to do that then
136then you know just we can move that in direction. Couldn't we say something like including but not limited to or some sort of language. I I would just like to add and bullying to number seven assists in the programs of drug awareness and bullying and drug prevention if we could if that's if the board is is there any objection to that? I mean We we certainly administrative we don't have an objection to that. Okay. So that'll be that'll be the revive. So we will we will is there any particular order for that? Okay. Thank you. Can I just ask a question? So with um and I believe this request was made and I don't know why was um it wasn't amended how the request was made but that's fine. So now with the amendment, is
137this is there a timeline that we have to put um approve this job description by? Is are we looking to have this position installed for the 25 26 school year or can you we are looking for the 25 26 school year. So if this is approved with the the budget, then we would advertise once it it's approved. we would we would actually go out in May to hopefully start that process knowing that it would take some time to conduct interviews and and do a hiring process and I I don't know I know this I mean I'm okay with your request to um the inclusion um just because I think it's a problem that's come up over and over but then now I also don't know I don't support the title of this position. So, um,
138but I don't know if that's a a different change, but I I do appreciate your feedback on it, and I think that request was made, so I'm okay with, um, that being added, but I still fine. Thank you, Miss Austin. No, I I I would you Miss Purdue were were you in terms of the job title, were you more thinking of the alternate the director of public safety or Yeah, I I would agree with that. Any other comments on that question on that statement? Okay. Uh yes, Mr. Can we can we consider changing the title here or is that beyond the scope of what we're No, you can't. I mean, certainly if some if a board member wishes to make an a motion to amend the job title uh the job description to have a
139change in title from chief of chief of police, for example, to um director of public safety or whatever it might be. Um you could certainly entertain that. Now, I would support that, Miss Clary. I guess I would ask Dr. Storini, is there um or Dr. Zerby, is there a a particular reason why you chose the title chief of police over the other one that other districts some other districts are using? like maybe you should if there's a reason of importance for the for the administration because this person would effectively be the chief of police that is the the title of the position emulating this based on how Perk Valley, Springford and many other districts have created theirs. They would have responsibility for being the chief which is commensurate with how the position is designed in
140other law enforcement entities. So uh that's why we called it the chief of police. Thank you. I would only add I I kind of agree with that. Like I'm director of public safety, you know, I I do think when you're working with the police, I I kind of support the chief of police title. But one of the other issues, if I may, is that director of public safety is normally a civilian position. So I'm effectively the director of public safety at this point, but I'm a civilian. The this position would be a law enforcement position. So the chief title is commensurate with that. And that's why that's the number one reason why we should leave the title as it's currently presented. Sorry. Yes, Miss Mr. Murky. So, they're in fact not synonymous. They are different.
141Different. That's correct. Because I heard something stated differently earlier. Thank you, Miss Miss Clearary. Thank you. Any other comments or questions on that title? Okay. All right. Seeing none, I am going to say may I have a motion to approve uh 10 C with the revising of adding bullying into the job description as presented. May I have a motion? Yes, Miss Alustin. May I have a second? Mr. Winters. Any comments or questions? Right. All those in favor? All those opposed. All right. Opposed. Okay. Two. I just want to make sure. Opposed. Keep your hand there. Motion carries. Then seven to two. Great. Now have a motion to approve 10 and six as listed in the personnel items. Miss Alustin. And then may I have a second? I see Miss Shondaanda. Thank you very much. Any
142comments or questions? Yes, Mr. Winters. Yeah, sorry. uh because of the ethics act uh with regard to the ethics act at the public meeting meeting on April 29th it's my intention of disdain from iting item 1096 10 and6 sorry 10 and6 which is related to chaperones which includes the nature of the interest is that my wife was a a chaperon at the high school's many time and is being compensated for right thank you very Um, yes, Miss Purdue, I just want to clarify. Is this only for the chaperons at Dominican or is there um 10 and six? There were there were other items on there, but she's on the list of chaperones. So, I'm just Okay, I think it's fine for me to just absorb. No, it's fine. I just wanted to clarify. Yeah, there
143were chaperones for uh postp prom, I believe. All right. All right. I'm going to go to vote. Uh, all those in favor? All those opposed? Yes. All right. Motion carries eight to zero with one absent. I abstain. With one abs. Yeah, one abstinence. Sorry, it's getting late. I apologize. Okay, we are going to move to curriculum and programs. Thank you, Madam President. Uh, for this evening, there are still three items under curriculum and programs. uh items under new curriculum, revised curriculum, and resource adoption. These have been on display in the district office since March 19th, and this is the date in which you will be approving all the items under 11 A, 11B, and 11 C if you so choose. Thank you. Fantastic. Does anyone want to take any of these separately? Great. Seeing none,
144may I have a motion to approve all items as listed under curriculum and programs as presented? Miss Alustin, may I have a second? Miss Shondaanda, any comments or questions? Yes, Miss Alustin, just wondering if we did receive any feedback on any of these. We've received none. Thank you. You're welcome. Miss, I'm just again very excited about the cyber security. Thank you for that, that reinforcement. All right. All those in favor? Yes. All those opposed? Motion carries nine to zero. Thank you. All right, we'll now move on to policy. Thank you, Madam President. Uh, for this evening, we are just voting on the second read items, which are all items under the 700 series. Great. May I have a motion to approve all policies as listed under the second reading as presented? Miss Olston. Thank you.
145And Miss Clearary is a second. Any comments or questions? Yes, Miss Holston. The fax machines. So, um, that was a question raised by a member of the audience. I also raised that question at policy committee. Um, Dr. Regina. Yes. And there are times that we still use fax machines in the district. That is correct. Thank you. Great. Thank you for the clarification. Any other comments or questions? All right. Seeing none, all those in favor? All those opposed? Yes. Motion carries nine to zero. Thank you. May I have a motion to we'll move to other. Sorry. Thank you, Madam President. Um we have a list of uh items for trips, transportation, uh and the gifted audit survey. These are items that were on the agenda uh last week. Um and then as I previously noted under
14613E, there were two corrections under 13E2 and 13E3. need the sim the similar correction removing the last zero to make both of those numbers equal $2,200 and um the the the the item was was presented by Dr. Sergini in in totality. Okay, great. Um does anyone take any of these separately? All right, seeing none, may have a motion to approve all items as listed under other with noted correction as presented. Yes, Miss Clearary. I have a second. Miss Graph, any comments or questions? Miss Alustin? Yes. Um, I just was wondering about the gifted audit survey um as per the MCIU gifted audit process. So, did the MCIU assist to develop the survey? It is their survey. It is. That's why that's why by policy we need your approval. Okay. Okay. Um and then a question
147came up about the removal of maintenance expenses um from the next budget um regarding the sale of the Ottabon School. Um can you speak to that please? Dr. Seni, I think that uh based on the length of time uh you want to explain that the length of time of this agreement and when when it'll actually be finalized, we're going to have to maintain the property. That's correct, Dr. Zerby. We anticipate that this could take probably 12 to 24 months for the finalization of this process. So, we will need to maintain the property during that time. Okay. So, at least for the next budget, we know Yes, it's okay. Thank you. And Dr. Sergini, we don't we we're not able to say whether or not we are going to do anything to the property in order
148for us to sell it. We intend to sell the property as is, Miss Graph. And um I think there was a comment at the work session. Dr. Sergini, could you give us an idea roughly about what the maintenance costs are on that property for the district? All right, let me ask it this way. I think if I remember correctly in our property committee, it was roughly around 50 grand, 60 grand at a max. So that's for the whole year for all maintenance. Okay. Thank you. Miss Clary, just real quick, I want to reiterate my comments I made to you, Dr. Sorgini, at the work session. I really thank you for all your hard work in in getting this to where we are. Your attention to detail uh for me is super appreciated. So, thank you.
149Great. I I agree with that as well. All right. Any comments or any further? Okay. All those in favor? All those opposed. All right. Motions carry nine to zero. And dates for board members uh for the upcoming board meeting are listed on the agenda and also on the Mactton website. Do we have any old or new business? Yes, Miss Shondaanda. Okay. I wrote it down real quick because otherwise we'll be here till midnight. Um, I would like to ask the education committee to explore whether and how we can assign an existing role to take the lead on improving school culture in partnership with the chief of police should that position be approved and finalized and all that. Many families in our district have voiced serious concerns about bullying, harassment, discrimination, and other mental health challenges
150that are negatively impact our impacting our students. While physical security is a critical part of keeping our children safe, it's only one piece of a much larger puzzle. I believe that at the core of many of these issues is mental health, not just the presence of a weapon. I'd like to see the district consider a holistic approach to school safety and that includes strong leadership on school culture and mental health working handinhand with physical security efforts. The end. Thank you very much. Any other comments or questions? Yes, Miss Purdue. I do want to say I know the high school um school board reps touched on this a little bit but I do want to say thank you to the methacing community for coming together to support postp prom yet again. I know this year my
151son was able to participate and it was a always a really well event. I was just I came into the high school early in a day and just seeing parents that look like they've lived here for hours just tired but doing what was needed to help keep our students safe. Miss Alustin, great job with the coffee shop and I really appreciate it. But I know just everybody here, members in our community that we're there from I feel like postp prom start right after prom and it goes on and then you guys start planning and it just is it's never ending. So, I really do appreciate all the work that go in because I know there are not many districts that still have it and it just really provides a great opportunity to make sure that
152we can keep our students safe on a night that there are many things that can go wrong. So, I appreciate everyone that stayed up. Many of us have very early bedtimes, but we made sure we stayed up to support our students. That's the staff, parents, and even other students in general. So, thank you. All right. Thank you very much. We definitely agree, Miss Austin. Just thank you for saying that, Miss Purdue. I I totally agree. I think every person up here except for maybe Kyle uh was somehow involved. Yeah, we'll get you next year. Was somehow involved with postpromact community. It was just incredible, incredible sight of of community working together for a wonderful common purpose. and it was it was just a great thing to see. So, thank you. Thank you very much. I
153agree with your words completely. And I will be sending a thank you out to the to the all the volunteers and the committees that were involved on behalf of the school board as well. So, just take a look out for that. Um, all right. Any other new or old business? Yes, Dr. Regina. Oh, Miss Steel. Yep. I just wanted to follow up since no one can see me nodding along that yes, thank you so much to everyone who volunteered and took and participated in in making postp prom such a success. It's such a great part of our community and uh that's wonderful. And um I I just wanted to comment on um Miss John's ask. I I did write it down for ed committee and we can follow up and figure out how we can
154bring up that discussion. And um I took some notes but I might have to follow up to the agenda. not no to the minutes to make sure I got all the notes that were said. So, thank you. Great. Sounds good. Any other comments or questions? All right. Seeing none, we'll now move to courtesy of the floor. The board of school directors will now provide an opportunity for residents to make comment on matters that are or may be before the board. The board asks that you keep your comments to three minutes or less. The board of school directors may choose to respond to matters following the conclusion of the comments. You could also submit the questions via email to information uh as usual there there was the votech uh center was mentioned in a summary report
155earlier in the meeting and one thing that to me is very bothersome is that there are 400 students being placed I guess for the next school year and over 200 students that are on a waiting list. And uh so does that mean that that the student that wants to get into carpentry for instance uh uh gets shunted back to the to our to our high school? I just uh think that uh 200 students being denied opportunity uh is a serious charge and there should be some discussion on the issue. Uh and uh you know is it an issue of uh uh superintendent deciding that they don't want their budgets impacted by enlarging the vote center or uh you know maybe they could uh hire outsiders uh to uh change the setup there so that there
156aren't 200 100 students on a waiting list. I think that's a serious educational issue issue that this board bears some responsibility for. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Any other comments? Brian Ernshaw, Lower Providence. Um, continuing on what I was commenting on it courtesy for last meeting before I got cut off. Not allowed to have 15 more seconds. Um, the master plan financials presented at the finance committee meeting show how much money has been spent um through March 31st on the new high school project that's now been scrapped. That number was 545,000. I asked a number of questions about that number and none have been answered. One is, is that an all-inclusive number? I know it's not all the spending. There's still payments to Shraider, I think, that have not been included that number. Um,
157does that number include an allocation of administrative salaries like you do on your right to know report? You take a piece of the superintendent salary and allocate that. So, I'm wondering if this number can be shown to include all the time spent from the administrative staff on the new house school project that is now wasted. I'm glad Dr. Zerby, you find that funny, but you bear responsibility for all this money spent. Your failed financial projections caused this project to be cratered going dating back to August of last year. So, I would not be laughing at spending probably nearly a million dollars of taxpayer dollars without salary costs that is now thrown down the drain. I'm glad you find this funny. I don't find a one bit of humor in that regarding your process of prioritization.
158I really don't understand what you're trying to do there. And my question is, why isn't the administration, the superintendent, his two assistants, and his other staff that's grown by 19% over the past five years, by the way, um why aren't they developing a plan and coming to the board to approve it? I can't think of another CEO in any organization that would go to his board and said, "Hey, what do you think I should do to run this company?" It just doesn't happen. and having the board pick our priorities is going to bring in personal preferences. Miss Austin, you're a big proponent of theater and the arts. I saw your gleeful reaction when that made the list. There it is again. So, it's your personal preference, not what's going to bring forth a better education
159in our school district. So, I I think you need to go have the administration develop a plan, what's gets prioritized, how much it's going to cost, and bring it to you for approval. That's your role as a board member. That's your role, not to design, not to run the district. It's an advise and consent role essentially. So, I think you need to relook at this process. Otherwise, we're have another million dollars thrown down the drain of just going round and round and spending money on consultants, on lawyers, architects, etc. Really got to think about what you're doing here. It doesn't make any sense to me. Thank you. Hi, Shannon Puffer, Lower Providence. Um, in the presentation from Shrader Group, there was something about the life skills apartment space and I think it's a terrific idea,
160but I also know that there's a nonprofit right on Germantown Pike called Integrate for Good. And I think that the board should look at maybe um contracting with them, seeing what kind of programming that they can offer. that would not only work with a nonprofit in our community, but it would also bring that space as something that the school district could maybe use for another another program in the high school. Thank you. Thank you. Jim Warorscester, that was an excellent point because you guys already have an apartment program. It's over at the Miku. It's outsourced. You You want to spend all that money to bring it in. You already have it, but that's a good idea. I think the word that Mr. Ernshaw was trying to get to was micromanagement when it comes to what
161was going on up front. Um me personally I you know I heard you know transparency and we get to you know observe all this uh the most important thing that happened was anonymous how each one of you voted. We're going to find that out. Why are we keeping that anonymous in this transparent situation? Um, I was at a Warsister Township Planning Commission meeting where one of the members and an audience member were asking about a renovation plan. And I was apoplelectic because you guys are like, "Oh, we got the plan. Uh, it's on the website. Yeah. Yeah. Come, come ask us. We'll give you whatever you need to know." What a bunch of BS that was. There never was a renovation plan. how you guys could have gone in front of that commission and I
162don't know how else to say it. Misrepresent a renovation plan is I can't trust anything you guys say. I can't um your priorities very simple HVAC parking attempt to keep the renovation in the envelope which takes care of your land development and zoning problems. Safety and security which is common sense, sprinklers, cameras, all that stuff. and then minimize disruption because that was your pitch to the planning commission, the disruption piece. So the less work you do, the less disruption you get and students should do better. That's your plan. The rest of it's gravy. You don't need a fab lab, lunch and learn, school store, steam, and the apartment trans the apartment space. Now, if you want to put it into the school after all the important stuff gets taken care of, maybe. But you got
163to concentrate on what's important. Um, a pool. You guys are talking about a new pool. You don't get a new pool because you couldn't take care of the old one. It was leaking since 2016. He did nothing about it. So, the degradation of the pool was caused by your inaction. How do you get a new pool when you can't take care of the old one? It's ridiculous. You know, spend what, 10 million for a new pool because you couldn't take care of the old one. LGI room. You don't need a This room is fine. What's wrong with this, right? Auditorium. You guys wanted a new auditorium because you couldn't fit all the grades in it. Well, you're going to build the same thing. It makes no sense. Thank you. Any other courtesy of the floor?
164All right. Seeing none, do we have any comments or questions? Miss Austin, I just wanted to comment on um the on the comment about the uh weight list at North Monco Technical Career Center. Um and say that I agree that is an issue. Um there is an active sub subcommittee of the Joocc that is a capacity committee where we're looking to explore all these options. Some of the options that we're looking at include a twilight program, uh moving some programs off site, reconfiguring some internal spaces to see if we can add a workstation or two, and then also physically adding on to the building. The the issue is that the um North MCO building is probably uh not really able to reconfigure to to add much internally and and there's not a lot of space
165to add on to it. So, but I just want to reassure that we we recognize that there's a problem. Um, and within the joint operating committee, we are working really hard to try to come up with solutions so we can accommodate all the students who are interested. Thank you. Any other comments or questions? Miss Graph. Yeah. Um, I heard the comment about the cost and the spend with the architect and the engineer thus far and I know that it was brought up in finance and I'm not going to put Miss Stephie on the spot tonight because I'm sure she doesn't have that answer, you know, off the top of her head, but I know she can certainly bring that to us at the finance committee in May. So, I just wanted to put that out
166there. All right, great. Thank you. Any other comments or questions? All right. Seeing none. All right. Can I have a motion to adjurnn? Miss Alustin, may I have a second? Miss Shondaanda. Okay. Motion is ajourned. Have a good evening.