001e good evening everyone I'm going to call to order our March 11th work session and we'll start with the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge alance to the flag stands indivisible andice for okay so we'll begin with our audience of citizens and I'll read uh the guidelines I still have to read the um guidelines Mr Patel you yes go ahead and read it do okay the this meeting is being videotaped for Community cable channels and streamed live individuals attending this meeting Mr patchel yes could you please wait till I complete this course thank you I'll start over this meeting is being videotaped for Community cable channels and streamed live individuals attending this meeting and intending to speak to the board should be aware that they are being videotaped in order to meet the requirements of Pennsylvania
002Sunshine Law it is necessary to record the names of all citizens who speak to the board during the meeting to assure liance with this requirement it is essential that those planning to address the board State their name and municipality members of this AUD members of the audience are asked to limit their questions and comments to three minutes as a reminder the audience of citizens portion of the meeting is designed for residents and taxpayers of the district to provide comment and feedback on matters which are or may come before the board it is not design it is not designed for debate or discussion with the board when appropriate individual School directors may choose to respond to public comments that have been made once the audience of citizens period has concluded or request that a member of
003the administration follow up with the speakers after the meeting and this is in reference to board policy 903 okay thanks Mr patol please go ahead very nice okay uh okay start it you can go ahead and start I sign everything first thing I want to tell you I got my thing from Montgomery County 9% I wonder how many people in uh North pen school district is going to react to this you're going to load 4% on on that they're going to be real happy about the 133% you know maybe you people on the boort here are making all over 200,000 you know whether it's privately or publicly or whatever it is you don't have any compassion stop it the people in Lansdale what do they got now oh they got empty stores no kidding what
004happened because the rents keep going up and up and up and I bet if you look at the average income of the people oh yeah we're renting oh yeah well we got to move my kid's complaining he's gonna lose his dog so you know you got to have some kind of sympathy what's going on here I told you one project at a time stop with all this uh oh yeah we're going to have a 18-year building program I told you I know you ordered this you ordered the uh switch gear okay I hope it doesn't come from Canada because it's going to cost 25% more the R cables for the underground is probably going to cost money it's coming from Italy you know and then you have uh you know other features you know unless
005you want to go with a 80y old man you gave him Botox but his heart's all worn out he ain't going to make it so look what you have to do here let's get a little idea I read look they're going to freeze the taxes for the senior citizen it already passed one time they got to get it through this they got to get it through the uh Senate and then you know what I'm going to be frozen for years and years and years and even if they make me put okay it's 500 suppose I live another 20 years uh that's 10,000 yeah but my house is 1.2 million now I think I can afford it so look what I want you to do is let's get a little creative you're working on a swimming
006pool I see Hatfield Police Department oh they got a a concrete roof oh yeah probably you'll never leak and I'll never have to replace it very wise decision so what I want to see is somebody just told me they're not going to Disney World again oh I wonder how much it is this year not 3,000 ahead it's probably 3500 I know it's their money but we got to send some uh chaperon along oh yeah you know and that's very inclusive and Equitable and whatever diversity 19 you had over a thousand graduates oh yeah that one kid he drives the his dad's Volvo to school you know they're all they're all doing well they got helicopter parents here why are you waiting for the bus with your kid don't you think he can make it or
007you going to go to college with them and no more student loans either CU they'll they'll let you in Lehi but the filler you'll be done in two thank you would anyone else like to make public comment this evening good evening Mr lunir uh Jason lir Lansdale um and if anybody wants to say anything to me you can address me while I'm up here so I don't have to yell from the uh the seats uh I'm more than willing to address any questions you might have I can explain it to you later all right Dina uh if you don't understand the whole Healthcare Medical Center um okay yeah okay no problem uh so we were talking about the the amount of taxes that have gone up and and in the the proficiencies so just just
008to do a a quick comparison 2016 2017 before this uh this ass board got in um the budget was $245 million now this year our budget is $322 million at the same time proficiencies now we're talking 8th grade here or I guess this is all the middle school so the combination of the two and now ever it's done uh all the proficiencies have gone down significantly all of them the most the most jarring would be in mathematics uh Penfield went from 45 of 45% of kids not being proficient to 59% of them not being proficient penale is at 66.5% not proficient in eth grade math make all the explanations about jumping ahead and taking algebra and what come on that's that doesn't hold much water because a kid who learns enough to get to Advan
009math knows how to pass the eighth grade test I that that's silly but I want to know is why did we spend so much money to get such poor results and who is responsible for these poor results and what is your plan to correct these because I know all the the the Dei and the the uh equity and everything has that benefited any student has it what what is the best uh Dei hire that we've had I want to know because it's it's contingent on most of the employment status except for uh school bus driver is the only one I could find and I know why because those are hard to come by but everything else you want to filter out people and I used to think oh it has to do with with some
010kind of mind you know what occurred to me it's just it's a litus test you guys want to hire only people who agree with your vision of what schools should be that is a very Progressive mindset it has nothing to do with benefiting the kids it has only to do with propagating the liberal Democrat mentality and the liberal Democrat mentality has got us to this expensive school that is has really really poor performance and why is that why do we have such poor performance we have lower standards that's not benefit kids aren't getting leaving school leaving school more prepared they're less prepared for University if they choose to go so why is this and who's going to take responsibility I know responsibility is a hard thing for you guys to accept I mean there was
011we still haven't heard anything about the Penbrook situation and who's taking responsibility for that but who is going to take respons responsibility for this bad performance that you guys put into practice here who's going to do it and I'll wait if there's any questions I'm ready to answer go ahead thank you Mr lanir all right moving on in the agenda we have nothing under new business I'm sorry does anyone else want to make public comment sorry about that all right could I ask a question of Dr Kim Dr Kim have we ever hired anybody who wasn't the most qualified person for that job no I would disagree with that we take our um selection and recruiting and hiring process very seriously we do look at all the the credentials and experiences that one brings and
012we do hire the best qualified person thank you very much thank you Dr Kim all right are you sure I want to address this idea that we have poor test scores we we are in the top 10% in the state we outperform the state averages there are so many metrics to look at test scores are one just one you could look at how many people had college credits when they were leaving 10 years ago not nearly so many how many AP classes were they taking not nearly so many right how many internship opportunities did they have right tech school opportunities did they have you know there's and to be perfectly honest that particular metric is really useful for home buying right like anybody knows when you go to buy a house you look at the
013school district the school districts are rated by their test scores is anybody having are any of these communities not selling homes am I missing something this is a desirable place to live because you're getting a quality education for an affordable price and it's a phenomenal education anecdotally I'm not sure that there are many districts in the state that are putting as many kids into stem fields in college as North pen maybe thanks in part to our pharmaceutical Neighbors in this community and the support that we get you know from them and their families um but I would say that North pen is doing great and that's all I have to say about that all right now I'm really moving on okay um okay I got it do we have any new business um I would
014like to ask Mr Summers to give us Sol solicitors report excuse me sure thank you Dr Bower uh just my report tonight is just that the board did meet in an executive session immediately prior to tonight's meeting for the purpose of discussing a confidential matter of personnel involving a support staff member and a me matter of Labor Relations involving the district's administrator group and that concludes my report thank you go for it Dr Bower okay uh first order of business tonight uh for the non-consent agenda is I recommend approval of the person agenda as per the attached okay may I please have a motion so moved second okay any comments or questions regarding the agenda Personal Agenda hearing none all in favor say I I any opposed hearing none the motion passes thank you and
015with that vote I would like to bring your attention that we just hired our new assistant director of facilities and operations I'd like to welcome to the school district Mr Shan Ryan welcome [Applause] okay stand by I'm having technical difficulties here so I'm just going to say Thank you Mr Ryan I'm looking forward to it we all are looking forward to it it's going to be an exciting ride when you join North pen with the high school project and all the other initiatives so um did see your resume it looks awesome so I think we will really be happy and look forward to you at our meetings thank you at the end of the meeting Mr Ryan come on up we can introduce you to everyone um next up I recommend approval to execute the
016agreement between the North pen Water Authority and North pen School District to assume ownership of public water lines and fire hydrants on the North pen high school property okay may I please have a motion so moved second all right any comments or questions I had a question about this is this because of we're uh renovating the High School Mr Slaughter please run run good evening ladies and gentlemen uh yeah we entered into an agreement with North Pan Water Authority uh because they own the lines uh within the district property so this allows us to make changes at will without requiring approval from North pen Water Authority and any of the permitting that's associated with that okay so they will own from the street into the water meter pits we own everything from there on in
017thank you thank you Mr sler any other comments or questions from the board okay hearing none all in favor say I I any opposed hearing none the motion passes thank you all right went away again it loaded I recommend approval of the SNS General equipment bid award to the lowest responsible biders as follows culinary department $45,600 and singer equipment $190,100 for a total of $239,500 [Music] balance for the SNS Department uh replacement of equipment in our kitchens so often in school districts one of the most expensive things in a school is their kitchen and so often you don't replace the equipment until you renovate the building uh well with 18 buildings that's not a sustainable uh replacement practice so actually miss furlick green spoke about her fund balance in the SNS Department which is an
018Enterprise fund starting to use some of those Monies to replace obsolete equipment in other kitchens thank yes thank you for that any other questions comments okay hearing none all in favor say I any opposed hearing none the motion passes thank you okay there's clearly something going on with boards Miss McMurry if I could use your because now Mr Summers went dark okay all right I recommend thank you I recommend approval to advertise for bids for technology for the purchase of Chromebooks desktops and laptops in the current fiscal year okay may I have a motion to approve so moved second all right any comments or any comments or questions okay hearing none all in favor say I I any opposed hearing none the motion passes okay thank you for that I am I'm good at that
019point at this point this is the only uh action items or things that we are moving yeah I'm good um I am very pleased to share with you this evening we are going to give an overview of the results from the climate survey and just to give a brief back background on this I believe we the first iteration of the school climate survey was given in 2019 uh right 1819 I believe yeah um it's in this presentation but a climate survey is asking different stakeholder groups across the organization about safety at school their experience their education and it's it really doesn't have much value unless it's done longitudinally so you do it on a regular Cadence so you can compare the results so this is our third formal time uh conducting this same climate survey
020and it's essentially the same instrument so you can compare the results of one question to that question two years ago or four years ago so we did have a bit of a disruption in there due to the pandemic uh but this is our third iteration of the uh climate survey we use a third party to conduct the process we use Handover research um and Dr Waters and Dr Nicholson will be sharing those results an overview of the results we did provide the executive summary to the board months ago uh but just public facing here are the results result of our climate survey so Dr Waters take it away all right good evening everyone um unfortunately I believe Dr Bower just stole my thunder for introducing the uh overview of the climate survey but that will
021limit the amount of time that uh we need to speak so um good evening everyone uh thank you for this time to produce and to um give the overview of the Handover climate survey for the 2425 school year um Dr Boward did a little bit of a an overview but I just want to call to your attention uh hover research is a leading provider of research analytics um they specialize in surveys as uh this survey obviously was focus groups and also quantitative data analysis um so they provide the survey they also provide a full-on data analysis of the survey and deliver those back to us um that we're then reporting on this evening um their K12 division supports curriculum instruction it supports students supports um also District strategic planning which we'll talk about a little
022bit on the next slide and then culture climate and family engagement which was the gist of the Handover climate survey for 2425 so the History Dr Bower did a great job of covering this in 2022 um we also administered a strategic planning survey that helped inform us for the last strategic planning cycle um this Handover climate survey that we just administered this school year um also included some of the questions from that survey as well so as Dr Bower said um we use this longitudinally to compare where we were back in the first Administration the second Administration and now this one but we also utilize some of the questions from that strategic planning survey this time around to help us inform where we've gone and where our strategic planning for the comprehensive plan should be
023for this school year we just reported I believe it was last month on the comprehensive plan and how that was informed In Pieces by this survey as Dr Bower said we did uh the Strategic or I'm sorry the uh climate survey in the 201819 year the 22 23 year and most recently in October of no and November of this past year um when it was all said and done after Handover clean some of the data which again I'll talk a little bit about on a subsequent slide there were over 9,000 respondents districtwide and that included students parents community members and staff members um all four of those were included in all the other um climate survey Renditions as well so we could look at the longitudinal breakdown of all of those different stakeholders so the
024key objectives here were really to understand perceptions of North pen school district and the climate within our schools um as I just said we really want to recognize the difference between different stakeholder groups so students this year as opposed to students last year or the years before how do they see the climate in their school Schools they're there every day same for staff how do parents and what are their perceptions of our schools today versus last year um and then also obviously to identify areas of strength where are we uh exceeding um where are we doing extremely well but most importantly where are the rooms for improvement and where can we look to improve the climate within our schools um within all of our 18 schools so the methodology and I put this up here
025I won't speak to each and every one of these pieces um but as we look at deeper data and we won't dive into that this evening um you could go down and rabbit hole and I'll introduce a little bit about what that looks like um in a a little while later um there are pieces of data that you'll see and it's just important to remember that um some of these pieces of data you can refer back to this when you're looking at them to wonder why um but for instance the middle bullet there after data collection hand overidentified and removed low quality respondents so what's a lowquality respondent simply put it's a a student potentially or even a Community member that went abacadaba through the the uh survey they just picked random uh letters throughout
026and if you completed it you'll noticed that at certain times during the survey there was a question that said please select letter C for this question um and that is their internal validity testing to make sure that the folks that are taking this are actually doing it the right way and not just clicking through turns out when you administer this to lots and lots of students in a school building um not all of them always see the link and and not all of them always want to answer um forthrightly so that's a a little way to make sure that we know students and folks in general are taking it seriously when they're taking it and then finally I think the other important one percentages May sum to over 100% when you're looking at DB and
027you see a percentage is well over 100% you can ask why um but in many of these questions you could answer more than one um which could lead to more than 100% response rate for some of the the special or the specific questions so we're going to dive in a brief overview as Dr Bower said I'll talk about recommendations this was directly from Handover and their datalytics Department um and then Dr Waters is going to cover the um key findings throughout the survey so their recommendations to us came in uh three parts the first one was boost inclusivity and cultural competencies but they also noted that we have improved in this area um obviously more training more working through this can improve uh us even further but we have improved since previous administrations um in
028this area their second recommendation was to enhance family and Community engagement strategies i' just like to take a moment and note that this was also something that we worked through with the communications audit earlier um in this cycle and something that were already uh was already identified as an area for improvement and something we're already working on but their piece was really to ensure transparency frequent engagement um and multiple platforms which is what we're striving to do throughout this entire process and then finally under recommendations the third one was improve the effect effectiveness of the discipline code review and revise the code so it's clear Equitable and consistently applied and again just wanted to point out that this did start last uh summer um we we've talked all about especially at safe schools the difference
029in the electronic use code um and how we're we're dealing with cell phones and buildings that was one instance of a greater um impact or a greater effort to really streamline the code and work with a committee not just last summer for that one specific piece um but subsequent meetings have occurred and will continue to occur to get to that point so in many ways these recommendations um really drove home the fact that we are already already um working on some of these pieces they weren't all that new to us um they were seen in previous iterations of the survey but also something that um we've already endeavored in and we will continue to so with that I will turn over Dr Waters and some key findings okay all right thank you Dr Nicholson okay
030so there are 10 areas um in which you will have some we have some key findings I not going to read all of this because I know you can all do that um but I am just going to highlight those key findings and maybe give you a little bit of information depending on what that category is thank you it's okay thank you so what happens when you get older you can't see as well I asked asked him to make the slide a little a little bigger all right okay so for the first area um we're going to talk about uh school and social environment for this particular area the overall environment regarding safety was really unchanged they did not see a big difference from the last time we took the survey to this time but
031I do want to point out in this particular area that the supportive classroom environment a well-rounded curriculum and access to materials and technology that did go up 3% and I think that's worth noting the second uh bullet under this category while adults continue to have better relationships with students than students have with peers student relationships with both adults and peers have improved so that's a good thing one of the things I'll point out here is that um even though fewer than two-thirds of student to students relationships are kind of viewed positively there's been an increase with showing respect to your peers so that's something we work on and so it's good that people feel that and over 75% um feel that the adults really care about students and that's why we're all here so it's
032always good to make sure and see that that percentage is high another area that you hear a lot about as Pete just mentioned is at safe schools this next area is about discipline and enforcement consistency and followup on the rules did improve this year overall things didn't change too much however again one of the things that I do want to point out is that over over 2third of the respondents believe that the adults in our schools are consistently and fairly enforcing school rules and we're seeing a percent a six percentage increase in students following the rules so that's also a good thing in this area harassment and bullying harassment and bullying does continue to be more pronounced among students however the frequency did decrease um this year which is a good thing so again just
033like Pete talked about areas to continue to work on however we are seeing some gains in these areas one of the things I do want to point out here because we've heard a lot about this um in the belonging survey um in Pay survey when we've reported out about some of those other ways in which we uh gather feedback fewer um I'm sorry the um harassment based on gender gender identity and sexual identity saw the biggest Decline and so that was an area in the past that was um higher um and so it's good to see that that is is coming down um also over half of the people who took the survey do feel like bullying is being addressed and there's a 3% Improvement there as well so again doesn't mean things are perfect
034by any means but it means that things are moving in the right direction under resources and support the perceptions of school curricula and support for special education student populations also improved um during uh this school year um one of the things I'll point out here is that um 75% um feel that we have the right Learning Materials 82% people of people who took the survey feel that our special education students are receiving the right encouragement the area though that we do need to continue to work on is behavior that continues to be um a concern I will say to that though we are working very collaboratively with um MPA and we've been working probably for about a year now on some ways in which to improve that and put some protocols and things in place
035um we just met a when was that Dr Kim a few days ago yeah yes yesterday I don't last I don't it was Friday thank you last Friday um and we all feel that things are moving in the right direction all right the next area that I'll talk about briefly is student development so student Development Across all areas did improve and some areas showed greater Improvement than others one of the areas that showed an 8% rise was students coming to class prepare that's really amazing that's important um so I was glad to see that um and so there is still a concern though around just students kind of being ready for class so some of them are doing better than others um but hopefully they'll watch their peers and make sure they have everything they
036need to be successful all right under student preparation the school's ability to prepare students did improve however some of those areas are still low so getting better but still not great um 6% increase in student preparation in career Readiness Community engagement uh and responsibility I think uh and perseverance I think this also ties in nicely to some of the efforts um that Chris fry has made at the high school those connections in the community also um with our safety action committee that was formed um a lot of connections to the committee um from the committee to the community that was something that Dr Bower really stressed you know ways in which the community could support our efforts and so I think we have many ties um to the community and we'll continue to get better
037in that area as well all right for staff support um North pen schools generally have a good working environment with satisfaction in professional development improving in 2425 this one I think these numbers are really great um because the staff does have strong relationships with colleagues 96% feel that way and 97% feel that staff have strong relationships with students I think that's huge again relationships are everything um it's really really important and again we're here to serve our students so when you see numbers like that I think we have to really celebrate that I also do want to note that perceptions of professional development have improved and that's a really good thing too because sometimes if you talk to teachers they don't always you know sometimes they're like oh it's a professional development day I'd really
038rather be with my students so to know that they're seeing some benefits and feeling that these professional development sessions are meaningful and worthwhile is really um good to know and encouraging so that we can continue the work that we're doing we do get their feedback after every single session and I can tell you for sure um The Jackie gam Marco in particular reads every single comment from every single teacher so it's really helpful to inform our next steps all right the district perceptions on recruiting and retaining staff didn't really change however I do want to note um that most respondents do feel that we do a nice job of attracting and retaining a high quality diverse staff um under the leadership of Dr Kim So Kudos Dr Kim all right family engagement um Pete talked
039a little bit about that in this and under the recommendations and again he mentioned that family engagement was an area in which we were already working on particularly coming off of the communications audit this also actually ended up becoming a subcommittee at the safety action committee team so when we worked with um the community members and and parents who joined us and administrators teachers it was a nice mix in that group that did come up um as well it is also a goal in our uh cultural proficiency equity and inclusion work and so it's something that's really important to us so we continue to try to get better what you'll note here is that school staff scored pretty high um over two-thirds feel that staff or they're getting communication from their staff um at their
040school and they feel like they're really informed in in the no I know many principles I think all principles I'll say all principles do send some type of communication to their families they use some more so that they can translate um if they need that and so that works really well because when you know to expect something whether it's every Sunday night or every Monday morning from your princible you're more inclined to look for that communication in contrast though District engagement with families from the last time we took the survey to this year did change and unfortunately not for the better um so we hear about transparency and all of those groups that I mentioned we hear about just feeling like communication sometimes isn't enough um we had conversations into the comprehensive plan and I
041remember Julianne Who U was a member of our committee kind of saying what else can we do right we send text messages we have social media emails District website um so we're always thinking about you know how can we improve are we doing or you are we using the right modes of communication are there things that we haven't explored yet um to that end you may recall at the last uh last month's work session when we presented on the comprehensive plan we talked about that being a a goal in our plan and so we're looking at platforms um that will kind of get to all of us we're looking at different ways to communicate but we really do want people to feel that we're being transparent we want people to feel that we you know
042we don't have anything to hide and so we have to just do a better job of getting that out there but we do try our best in that area but we're going to continue to work through that under administrators um there were some ceptions that there was a decline in some areas but for the most part that was pretty consistent and the good news here is that people feel that the administrators truly make decisions in support of the students uh which whom we serve and so that's a wonderful thing under cultural relevance and competence uh efforts to incorporate culturally responsive practices are improving again that was one of the areas that kind of came out as a recommendation that Pete already spoke to 6% feel that they are better prepared now especially with culturally relevant
043materials and supporting students um that they're teaching so that's a good thing but again we continue to work on this um this is something that's really important in our school district and will continue to be and then lastly uh District performance so overall District performance um we farewell very we farewell academically um kind of spoke to that that came up in public comment um but we do farewell there and in particular advanced placement 72% um feel very strongly that our AP courses um are very um you know helpful as well as our stem programming 74% feel strongly that that um is an area uh to celebrate so um we do have a couple of ways in which you can kind of go a little deeper if you want more information this was just an overview
044and I'm going to turn it back over to Dr Nicholson to kind of wrap us up all right thank you Dr water so as she mentioned there are a couple of different ways that have been made available for folks to um dive into the data a little bit for themselves Beyond just this overview um our district data analysis analyst naen dedri um did a great job of putting two of these interactive websites together that'll be available to folks um you can see right there hover cursor over B of view responses um but this specific one that I'm showing a screenshot of here um breaks it down by the number of stakeholders you can fill fil by responding type right now it says all but you can filter on any of the four and it goes
045through all the questions how many of the folks responded positively how many neutral how many negatively so it's something where you can spend quite a bit of time looking through this um working through this and looking at the data and then the second one that's available can you go back for one second please yeah I just do want to uh Point your attention to uh take some time when looking at these results because it is not uh as obvious as one may think so for example I won't ask Dr Waters to read the question because it's awfully small but the qu the first question there says how frequently do students within your school experience harassment or bullying based on their physical appearance right so you see at first blush you see positive 21% negative 52%
046neutral 27% but if you take 5 Seconds take a step back negative or neutral is a good thing for that statement right how often do they experience harassment so negative or neutral meaning no or I don't have an opinion on the matter you're talking 79% of respondents respon so it's not as simple as oh just look at the left look at the blue that's good look at the red that's bad look at the context of the question so you understand some of them are wonderful some of them are not I just ask that when reviewing the data closer you kind of take a look at what the actual item within the instrument States yeah thank you Dr bar I I was a little confused by that myself when I read that um and is that
047because Handover made the questions that way or is that how we're interpreting the results no these statements are literally the statements on the instrument and they are um from a statistical or data analyst standpoint their um what's the word I'm looking for the validity of the items has been been tested through thousands of school districts um so it's and and then we can do comps with other school districts across the country of course because they're taking the same instrument good questions Mr R to that point Dr BR I appreciate uh you you taking a moment to step back and look at that when you do hover your cursor on the live site over those you know red to purple bars on the right hand side it will tell you exactly what the answers were um
048and helps kind of inform what those positives neutrals and negatives are so it's really it's a little bit more intuitive when you have the actual website to look at but I appreciate that um that that clarification the second site that's available um is a longitudinal as we said from 24 um this school year to last year's data 23 and again you can see on the right this time I I was able to hit the drop down and you can see you can uh filter by all parent staff student or Community um and you can see the number of respondents so we did have more than twice as many respondents this time around uh based on the the time of that this was delivered um which is is shown on the left hand side there but
049you can scroll down this is a very long page where again you can hover your cursor over you can see what the specific percentage of each of those are and I believe I'm a bit color by but I believe it's gray is 2023 and blue is 2024 so when you're comparing um that's what you're you're looking at there what is not available yet but will be made available to our schools are school specific data so we are working with Handover right now to get that data file that Miss Dietrich will be able to work with and uh delve into each of our 18 buildings that will be delivered to our principes so there's something actionable for each School in a district of you know K to 12 with 18 different buildings one Elementary is not
050like every other Elementary and the high school is obviously very different from everyone else so we it is important for our our individual building principles to have data to delve into and that will be coming very soon so along those exact same lines Pete if you could go back one slide just to reiterate the same point so initial blush looking at this slide percentage of positive responses well it's down in the 10 to 20% that doesn't look great and the Arc of that graph seems to Trend down but if you look closely at the questions how frequently do students within your school experience harassment or bullying based on their physical appearance okay we're glad that that positive number is somewhere in between 10 and 20% as opposed to a 90% for example so just really
051look at it critically you know I'm goingon to mer wrong questions go ahead all right does anyone else have any questions in it first oh you want to speak oh sure I'll go last yeah I U appreciate the commitment to this um this process especially now that the Baseline is starting to form and we're getting ahead of that anomaly um era it for the the district uh and our neighboring districts is this something that most school districts in the area do to check their blind spots is this common practice that you're aware of you know I always think of where I live um and they do not send this out they do have other surveys that they sometimes will send out to ask for feedback so I think everybody does something but I'm not sure
052that everyone uses Handover yeah I I'm not aware I'm aware of one neighboring School District that uses Handover specifically Pennsylvania Department of Education does put out their own climate survey um it is not nearly as extensive in the analysis isn't as robust but yeah I I really appreciate the ability for you to then convert this uh and use it for leadership to try to operationalize right to drill down so the number might be you know good overall and aggregate but you can still see maybe some trouble spots and then share that with leadership it's a really good investment when it comes down to continuous Improvement and using data to not just inform decisions but allocate resources and communicate as best as possible uh to our community that we're using multiple lenses whether it's the pays
053act the communication audit this and really appreciate um the more information that we have um I'm sure the better we'll do in those areas that we'd like to see Improvement thank you thank you so okay I don't I guess I'm not sure who can hear answer this one of the two doctors there um you did mention I think it was Dr um Nicholson said something about the time of the year that the survey was conducted because when I look at the on that last I guess it's slide 17 20 2900 students 23 and 7500 students so what the hey happened now that's that's a great question that's something I can certainly speak to uh when this was administered last year there were a various number of reasons why it was administered very late in the
054school year so it was in the May June time frame um I believe many of our students were just kind of at their the end of their uh viability for taking surveys and doing assessments they were already through pssas through keystones um it was summer or getting very close to summer so I believe that's what really impacted the number um and this time doing October November students were fresher they were more apt to to take the survey and the data when it was cleaned there were any more uh viable respondents that were used in the analysis okay so so going forward for repeatability and accuracy and really validation of something improving or decreasing is your plan I'll assume your plan is to do it at the same time frame absolutely because when you compare is
055it fair to say when you compare right now the data between 23 and 24 it might something might be masks is that a fair statement it could be yes absolutely we would try to do it at the same time of year okay all right that makes sense the other piece is and I understand there's it's numerous in terms of the schools as you said 18 but is there a way to provide to the board a bit more situational awareness whether it be a collective um collectively about the elementary schools then the middle school and separate them out um just just so just so we understand it more and I think it's coming from my safe schools learning in terms of the lanes the slices that you do to understand you know is for example harassment
056that the one question that um Dr Bower said if you look at it the lower number is best but that might be different in the collectively elementary middle and high school so I think something like that if you think it's important that this board be aware of it I think that would be something I personally would want to say yeah absolutely once we have the the data that is aggregated by school I can definitely work with Miss Dietrich to to work on something that could Point some of those things out to you okay thank you I'm only GNA ask this because you actually had an answer to miss Wesley's question and I had a similar one looking at the responding count and I'll frame this by saying it's an impressive amount of people that respond
057to this it's certainly something you can have confidence in and that's for all the categories but it kind of is worth noting like parents went up by you know I don't know 50% uh students by like 250% um community members by 400% but staff went down do you have any insight into why the staff participation decreased for this this year I can't really speak to why the staff decreased it's something I think we can look into one of the things that I know in addition to what Pete shared about why other areas increased especially students um I think some of the principles um this year kind of had a set time and worked on us changed their schedule up a little bit as to making sure everyone does it at this time so that helped
058um we obviously can't do that with parents but I think we can certainly ask and try to get to what may have attributed to that I I have a guess okay I think perhaps in years past Mr fusa we did a better job of working with our two employee unions to push it I don't know that we did that as much this year um again uh 688 or 554 still a great sample of our staff absolutely it's not that I feel it's unrepresentative or anything it's just it's when you look at just how significant the increases are with the other groups no you're definitely right you know more modest would be one thing but the fact that it retreated is a little interesting to me and I I have heard that there is a little
059bit of uh survey fatigue we do send a lot of surveys out to St so and I get that too I mean maybe that's played a part of it for the teachers I mean certainly they have a lot on their plate when they go home and grade tests and everything else I wonder too um Mr Fusco is like which and I don't know that we can figure this out but I'm also curious like which staff members maybe are we talking about right because I know here at the ESC we take it and we also make sure that it's communicated to everybody here several times and I know the principles do that but I don't know for for example in other areas that you know I'm not as closely connected to I'm not sure you know
060for example in transportation um I'm not sure if they take it because not I don't you know everybody has the device but you know I think there's different departments we could try to have that conversation and then I think you know to Dr Bow's Point kind of work through our our presidents yeah okay next time yeah thank you just because we've also had several public comment related to data can you talk a little bit about how like this is all the the aggregated data and you could break it down can you describe and just tell us a little bit about how building principles might be using it to look at really how are people drilling down how are they using this um what are they you know how do they Implement learning if you could
061talk a little bit about how valuable this is to be able to we've both been building principles here um and um I know I I'll just kind of go back to my experience we um everybody has a data team at their school and so we're those teams are very much involved in looking at data no matter what it is with this in particular when they get that data spec that's specific to their school they're going to really look for those areas in which they need growth and that's going to be a conversation whether it's their data team it'll be their leadership team and it'll be their staff and they'll talk about how they can then pull some of those areas and turn them into building goals that tie nicely into our four e um because
062they all are about whether it's student learning or engagement um belonging these areas in this survey fall nicely under one of those areas and so my what I would think they will be doing is kind of taking a look at that just like they look at a look at the academic data and they'll kind of come up with some goals around the areas that maybe aren't where they want them to be and then on the flip side there's going to be areas that they're going to want to celebrate because they're going to kind of say in front of their staff like this is amazing great job we're doing a really nice job with our students on this this and this you know but like anything else where can we kind of continue to do better
063and how can we pull that into our building goal plan that we all kind of take accountability for making sure that those things happen I appreciate that because I think it's so important to see how this informs things that we do at at the board and administration level but also to see the direct impact that it can have in a building so and I appreciate you pointing out that there are times too to celebrate and I will say as well um just like when we have um the belonging survey the pays survey this survey as well like our school counselors even when they get together they look at all of this as well and they think about how can how can I also help make sure that some of these areas in which you know
064my role where if it pertains to how students are feeling that harassment all of those types of things they also really kind of work together to exchange ideas and think about how can we take this back to our school and work um on some goals around it as a team but also a part of those data teams that I referenced you're welcome my my last question is I know it's been a very long day for everyone the question I have is there an ability right for someone like naen or um yeah I I never want to do a regressive analysis again but wondering is there is there any type of comparison or ability to compare maybe between pays and this survey even certain areas so then you know there's a flashing like good or bad
065it has that been attempted uh I was going to say I don't know that it has been an analysis of between the two Mr Casa we do provide that data when we get together at our data retreats in our goal setting and I'm sure Dr y stepped out to use the restroom but I'm sure Dr W spoke to the goal setting within the buildings so it's accessible at the same time and we use it in the same processes but a side by-side analysis by the actual data analyst who has a degree in that area I'm not sure that's been done but I I totally think if it can be done she can do it yeah anything dad I I absolutely I will have you talk to her about that because it turns out my my
066dissertation was qualitative so all of that was Greek to me but thank you Dr B you got it thank you all right welcome all right okay great all right so we are into the uh last item on our agenda which is adjourn the meeting so could I could I please have a motion to adjourn move right thanks everyone good night