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5/19/25 School Board Meeting

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YouTube / Penn Manor School District
Date
2025-05-20
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Lancaster County, PA
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8,723 words · about 49 min
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2026-06-09

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001[Music] Heat. Hey, Heat. [Music] Call the Monday, May 19th, Penmanor School District Committee. The whole meeting to order. The next scheduled meeting of the Pennor School Board will be held on Monday, June 9th, 2025. Please note that change. It's not our usual cadence. at 700 p.m. in the large group instruction room of Penmanor High School. An executive session was held prior to the committee of the whole meeting for the purpose of discussing personnel, student matters, and superintendent evaluation as detailed above. Mrs. Rose, may we have a roll call, please? Sure. Mr. Beats here. Mr. Her here. Mr. Jackson here. Mr. Lombardo here. Mr. St here. Mr. Swigert here. Sorry. Here. Okay, there. Mr. Swagert. Yes. Here. Mrs. Nassiger here. Dr. Fullerton here. Nine board members present. May I have a motion to approve the minutes?

002Our community of the whole minutes from uh May 5th, 2025. So moved. Thank you. Second. Second. Thank you. Any further comment or question? All those in favor? Eight affirmative votes. Mr. Jackson. Yeah. Nine affirmative votes. Board development opportunities and reports. Do we have any board reports to share? Well, just uh briefly uh our normal meeting is this Thursday for the CTC, but we did have a general advisory committee meeting uh last week. And just remembering our weight list issue at the CTC that is now pretty much a universal concern. And so there was a suggestion just pass this along because it seemed like a good idea that there are so many students that do are not getting uh either their first or second choice and feel they're being not able to attend the CTC. But

003the business people are saying, "Hey, send those students applications or tell them doesn't mean they can't work in the field that they want to work in." And a lot of the employers say, "We'd be happy to talk with those students who are not able to get into their choice at the CTC or in at all and talk about summer work or continuing career after high school." So, thought that was a great idea. Hopefully, we can do that. to cooperate as much as possible in that regard. Yeah. So, as a followup to our discussion last last month or last meeting, I did check with our high school counselors and we do have 35 juniors to be who are looking to get into one of the intro programs who are on a wait list and then 23

004for 12th graders that are looking to get into a program. And those are folks that those are students who are on a wait list, not one that got their second choice or on the wait list for their first choice or whatever. So these are students who do not have a seat. And as you mentioned, Mr. Stro, one of the discussions that I've had with the high school administration and counselors is that they are starting to look for places that they would be able to go and do an internship with. Uh right now we we do have partnerships with about 45 businesses in the community. And right now our a couple of teachers and counselors and administrators are working with those 57 58 students to try to find them a big opportunity for them whether it's

005half a day or potentially could be a full day. And that's part of that program that Mr. EI had talked with us back in no in December about increasing the internship and increasing the the uh the opportunities for for a student to go out into a community business. Um Dr. Gail, I know that the last meeting I had suggested we look at uh additional co-op agreements with technical schools in the area. The other one I thought of was the Association of Builders and Contractors. Uh maybe another opportunity for students that are on the wait list that you know they would have a network of businesses that may take students. Yeah. And and uh I believe the executive director is a member of the the GAC Yeah. group. So that might be a helpful Sure. avenue.

006Yeah. Chris to has there been any discussion about putting programs into high schools? High school. Sure. Yep. That's certainly an area that that's being explored and can be utilized. The schools have the ability, the time uh space and the equipment in some instances. I mean that's a lot of issues to address but certainly space could be available in high schools. Thank you. Sure. Any other board reports? Miss Niger. All right. There is a facilities report. Um so the facilities committee met and uh we've had three meetings this calendar year uh where the administration has come to us with several different uh ideas, proposals for looking at um building and renovating um two or three current schools in addition to maybe adding another elementary school. Um and so the facilities committee has had a lot of

007questions and has requested some information from um the administration on those proposals before we bring back a recommendation to the full board. Um and we're working on a meeting in the near future to to develop that recommendation. Dr. Gails, anything else you wanted to add? No, just to those members and and to all members uh members of the facility committee, I put out some dates that uh we could consider. So, if you could let me know if any of those would work for you or the time uh we can get something scheduled. We we do have some information um from a meeting that we had with uh Larry Lovado, our architect. So, uh it would be a good time to meet in the next week or so. And of course, all board members, all directors

008are invited to that meeting as well. I'll let let everyone know once we have that scheduled. And then moving on to board opportunities this Thursday, May 22nd at 6:30 in the auditorium are our senior academic awards. And then Wednesday, June 4th is at least one of my favorite days of the year uh which is the high school commencement at Franklin and Marshall. Everyone should have a blue folder at their seat um with the row your row assignment and also your parking pass. That starts at 7:00. 7 o'clock. Yeah. Yes. So, so I would ask I think if everyone's there 6:30 or so, we'll have uh some orurves and drinks and things. Uh and I'll confirm the location of that and everybody should have their parking pass. Yes. That's sort of the lot adjacent right behind

009the the fence, Iron Hill. And yeah, make sure you get on the right side of the fence. Yeah. And gradu Oh, I'm sorry. Will graduates from a certain class be there that evening? No, we haven't done that since last couple years. Going to do that again. All right. And Mrs. Rhodess, when do you need information from us on the PSBA conference in October? I just need who is going to be there as a delegate right now. Okay. I think we're going to we're doing that voting. Yes. So, um but you don't need to know for anytime soon. No. For some reason, the delegate thing is like the most important thing to them. Okay. I just wanted to make sure we got that out there if you needed to know that sooner rather than later. Make

010sure they know who's coming to the waterfront. It's a great place for conference. All right, back to you, Dr. Fullerton. Thank you. Let's honor some staff. What do you say, Dr. Gail? So, good evening uh and thank you so much for this opportunity. Uh tonight we do have the privilege to celebrate those uh who again this is with mixed emotions uh that are finishing their career or time with pen manor. Um the total this year we have 18 individuals who are retiring and I think we could all agree that those 18 with their total number of years I think it was like 433 total years of service to the district have made a significant impact on many students probably thousands of students uh their colleagues which could number anywhere from 50 to 100 to several

011hundreds and just in our community in general. general. Uh while we're excited for them, we are somewhat upset with them because they are leaving. Uh but we know that they are moving on to new even though if it is uncertain at this point, which is fine. Uh yet exciting adventures in their life. Uh and tonight we do have several of our retirees here tonight uh that we would like to take a few minutes to recognize. Uh we have uh some really special people and uh and I was looking at this list. I was just thinking about uh not only the impact that they have made on our students but myself as an administrator and even as a parent. Uh there's a couple of folks here tonight that I am truly grateful for uh their work

012in our community and in our school district. Uh tonight like to start off our recognition uh with Kim Fbiner. Kim, please come forward. Uh Kim has been actually we're celebrating two things with Kim. This is her 20th year of service here at the district. Uh Kim serves as a secretary to our student support team. Uh and we counted tonight that Kim has worked with four different directors of student services over her 20 years. Uh in the district office, uh we've tucked Kim back in the corner, so to say. Uh, but that has not prevented her from impacting the whole district office. And I think the things that Kim does oftentimes go unseen or unheard about. And when you're in the role that Kim is, if you're not heard from or not seen, that's a great

013thing. And that's typically how Kim has done her job. Uh, very proficiently uh sometimes to the point where uh I've had to turn the lights out on Kim. uh when we were in the old district office and again I apologize for this. I know I did it profusely a couple times but I was there late left turned the lights off went into the other part of this of the building came back and the lights were back on. I was like dog on it I turned them off again and as I was leaving Kim was coming out of her area and turning the lights back on. I was like I'm so sorry Kim. Uh but you know over the course of the 20 years Kim has done unbelievable things to help all of us and it's

014those people that are oftentimes we don't see. They're behind the scenes but they keep us going. So tonight we do want to recognize Kim for her 20 years of service. And then sadly say thank you and goodbye to Kim uh with a uh recognition. And then of course the the blanket. So thank you [Applause] Tim. The other person who often times is behind the scenes like literally behind the scenes and behind the camera is this guy standing over here. So Brian, come on over. And then Christa, if you want to take some pictures. Uh we'll switch roles here. Uh but Brian has been our community relations coordinator for 12 years. We know that wasn't just his career. Uh Brian came to us actually uh after working for uh Langster newspapers uh where he was the

015education reporter and I do remember at the time when Dr. Lick later shared that Brian was coming to us uh how relieved we were uh because we knew we would get our story out there and Brian has done a great job in doing that. He continues to to do that. Uh his proofing and editing has probably taken another level since I became superintendent and had to correct many errors and just cut off words that seemed excessive, I'm sure, for him. Uh but Brian not only has served the school district, but has served the Pen Matter Education Foundation very well in providing them with the resources and the supports uh that our Ed Foundation has has needed over the years. Uh, I've enjoyed talking with Brian, uh, to hear about his his family and where they

016are and his trips to Colorado. I'm sure there might be a few more now. Absolutely. So, we have we've appreciated what Brian has done in 12 years. I think can't believe it's only been 12 years. It seems like it's been many more, but we do appreciate everything that you've done for Brian. So, thank you very much. [Applause] Nothing like being recognized and then having go back to work. Uh tonight I'd also like to recognize someone uh that in the past three years I've really learned a lot about uh you know my years as a high school principal, the assistant principal, and then assistant superintendent for secondary education. And I've shared this with many people. I didn't know a whole lot about what took place at the elementary level. And in many cases, I was actually

017scared to go to the elementary level because the kids, they want to touch you, they want to hug you, they sneak up on you. Uh and and really like I don't need to know how tall I am and be reminded of that as as frequently as they do tell me. But one of the things that I have learned in my time with the with the uh with my time at the elementary level is number one, you could never pay me enough to teach kindergarten or first grade. Talk about teaching everything, completely everything. And then there are a lot of hidden gems that we have because they don't necessarily have a full classroom, but they are providing the supports that really help our students uh progress and make huge leaps and bounds. And one of those

018people who sadly is choosing to leave us is Julie Yoder. Julie is our academic support one of our academic support teachers at Hambrite. And for a while, I heard the name. I heard all the things that she was doing, but I really truly didn't see what she was doing. And I think for us in terms of what Julie has been doing, uh, it's been not just her time at Hambrite, but all the years that she's been with us, 26 and a half years in the district. Uh, and the academic support team at Hambrite has really come together. I think it's partly mostly maybe all because of the efforts that Julie has put together and the benefits that we see in our students because of the work that she does with her colleagues has been has

019been immeasurable. Uh but yet at the same time it has been measurable and we appreciate the the role and the things that Julie does do. So thank you Julie. You will be missed again. As I told you, you don't have to leave. You can stay. But thank you for now to the people that I knew a little bit more, probably felt a little bit more comfortable with is our high school folks. Uh, and first I'd like to start with Jeff Heimmes. Uh, Jeff has been an art teacher here in the district. uh actually has served the district for 37 years and had a couple more years before that. Right. Two. Two. So total of 39 total years in education. Uh and if I have it right, Jeff actually started at the elementary level and then

020came here to the high school. I've always, as much as I am an art person, again, if you want to stick figure, don't even ask me. But uh I think I've learned a lot from Jeff and the other art teachers in the district and at the high school in terms of seeing things and I appreciated Jeff uh for all of his ideas. Uh sometimes I would go to him in a moment of panic. Hey Jeff, we need some signs. Oh yeah, sure. No problem. When do you need them? Uh in about two hours or we need this or we need that. And Jeff could pull it together in a very creative sense. But I I've also appreciated Jeff's perspective. He has the ability to look at the big picture and that has been very beneficial

021as Jeff has also served as the department coordinator for our K to2 art program may not have been all in his wheelhouse and taking care of all the paperwork and everything but he has given great leadership to that department and we appreciate that. Uh over the years I I really have enjoyed to see how Jeff has worked many different modes and and his creativity just come through in many different ways. Uh, I appreciate some of the things that Jeff has hung around the school. Uh, especially in the old TV studio, which was really just right on the other side of this wall. Uh, I'd like to go in there and just read some of the things that he had posted and put up. And I got a good laugh at him. I don't know if

022the kids found them funny, but I sure did. But Jeff, we appreciate all of your years of service to Penn Manor and to the things that you have done in terms of moving the art department both literally and figuratively uh into our new place and new space. And uh thank you so much for 37 years of service. [Applause] And then also tonight uh from the high school like to recognize uh our uh retirey in in Barry Grath. Barry Grath is one of our teched teachers here at the high school. And uh this is a little hard for me because I've known Barry both as a teacher and his principal, but also as f fathers. Uh Barry and his wife Kim. Thanks for coming to Lake Kim are proud uh parents of two Penman Matter graduates.

023Uh and Barry's son uh was actually one of my older my older son's uh good friends uh probably since like kindergarten I think all the way through. Uh they ended up playing they ended up doing things uh playing football together and I got to see Barry both as a teacher, a parent and a coach uh working due to different things. Uh Barry has 18 years here at service in Pen Manor, several years at another school district to the south of us and then he saw the light and came here. So we were glad that happened. Uh but Barry has taught uh teched here at the high school, has coached football at different levels and then also has been involved with some of the clubs and organizations that our tech department has in place. But it

024has been really nice. We always never had to worry about our son going down to Barry's house uh because we knew that Barry would send him home if he wasn't behaving and he always came home. So I don't know if that's was Barry getting tired of him or he wasn't behaving. Uh but again, thank you Barry for your years here and for the work that you've done. [Applause] Unfortunately, do we do have some retirees who aren't were not able to make either last meeting or this meeting, but I do just want to take a minute to recognize them. Uh Gretchen Braun is our first grade teacher at Letor. Uh again, one of those people that I've got to know the last couple years and and Gretchen is definitely one you hear before you see. Uh

025but she has almost 32 years of uh service here in Penmanor. Uh Stacy Brinkman, Central Manor, sixth grade teacher, uh will be retiring at the end of this year and she has close to 24 years of service. Uh Steve Evans, uh Martikville Middle School teched teacher, uh has 26 and a half years of service to Pen Manor. Uh and then one that was a little bit of a surprise, but yet at the same time, she has a reason for her. I don't know if it's really retirement, but she's moving on. Heather Felomb, this one hit a little hard because I remember when Heather was a student here at Penmanor, uh and she has close to 20 years. She's been a third grade teacher at Konos Stoa. Uh Steve Kramer, who was our health and fizzed

026teacher at Manor Middle School and has served as uh one of our wrestling coaches here at the high school, is retiring uh with 21 years of service. And then Margene Mong, who has been a guidance counselor and actually was our service learning director here at the high school, uh she's retiring this year at the end of 32 years of service. And then uh Vince Miller, sixth grade teacher at Pekquay, is retiring with 21 years of service. And finally, Jennifer Wyers, who is our second grade teacher at Leort, uh is retiring with close to 28 years of service. Though unfortunately, again, those folks were not able to be here. Uh but we will certainly appreciate and recognize all that they've provided uh to our students. And then keeping with the tradition of our video that captures

027uh the thoughts of our retirees, uh Mr. Henninger, Mr. Wallace have worked to put together the 2024 2025 retirey video and that is on the district's YouTube channel. So, I would encourage everyone to take a few minutes to check that out and uh watch our retirees share about their experiences while serving the pen community and then also uh make us jealous by talking about what they will be doing when we return to school. And then tonight we also have the opportunity uh to celebrate one special lady for me uh and recognize uh her as not only a retiree but also our elementary educator of the year. And as you know each year we get to recognize an employee of the year and a secondary educator of the year. And we had the opportunity to have

028Jen Roar, Mrs. Roar, and Kurt Elling. But this year, it's a privilege and special privilege for me uh is to recognize our elementary of the year and also a 2425 retiree, Mary Snider. As I was putting this all together, not only that, but also recognizing Mary. Uh she's been part of our Pemman community for 35 years. Uh she and her husband Brian who thankfully came tonight even though you probably wanted to be at home watching the Pirates game but it's over by now because they're losing. Uh they are proud parents of two Penman graduates. Uh Brad graduated in 2013 and Eric in 2016 and they are in-laws to a Penman graduate uh CC Minnik 20 class of 2016 CC Snider. And I'm surprised they did allow Brad to hire somebody or to marry somebody from

029another school district in the county that we won't even mention. Uh but this means that the Sners have been part and have spent many hours in stands or dugouts in case of Brian or in the concession stands of our baseball fields, our basketball courts or whatever you name it that the boys were involved in. Mary and I sat uh in the bleachers of many baseball games. Uh I stood next to Brian while he was coaching uh at the youngest ages to the oldest ages. Uh the Sners have really truly made a remarkable impact on the on the Penman community. And when I say truly remarkable, that's Mary because Mary has served Pen Manor for 34.81. We'll round up 35. It's just a little bit easier to say that of service to the Penman community. But

030they have all occurred at Pekway Elementary. Now, she might have changed grades, but she never changed schools. So, Mrs. Marsh, I really don't know how PC is going to operate next year without Mrs. Snider. Talk about a pillar. [Music] We won't go into that. Uh, so it's truly amazing. Mary started her career as kindergarten teacher and then the next year moved to first grade where she taught for 17 years in first grade and then she transitioned to third grade where she spent nine years and then back to first grade for nine more years. So, I did a little bit of math, might be first grade math, and I might have got it completely wrong, but I did it. I figured on the conservative side, that means that Mary has impacted over 1,700 students over those

031over the course of 35 years. And why it's special for me, two of those students have the last name of Gail. And I can say that both of them fondly remember Mrs. Snider. And one was even so special to have Mary at in first grade. And then two years later he had her for third grade. And if Mary never retired after that year, having one of the Gail boys twice, that says something about Mary's commitment and dedication to to Pen Manor and to our students. Um Mary has created and fostered a love of learning for many students. In fact, when I went in to share the news with Mary's class, I think some of the students were a little bit upset that I was interrupting their class procedures and things like that. Although, I do

032blame Mary for one problem that my son ran into when he was in school. She fostered his love of reading so much that he would be caught reading at the wrong time. And we have pictures to prove this because he had his book hidden under his desk when everybody else was looking forward except for my son there. And Mary gave him a bag, a grocery bag, the brown paper bag of books of the Matt Lupika books that are about sports and you know, and he tore through those at sometimes the right time and other times too. Uh so it's it's not easy for me to say goodbye to Mary uh because of what she has done for all of our students, but especially for my two. But it's also easy for me to see why

033Mary not only is retiring this year, but was also selected as the elementary educator of the educator of the year. So I guess we could say you're retiring on the top. That's right. Going out in the top or winning the championship, whatever we want to say. But Mary, thank you for number one all of your years of service, but also the way you have worked to not only help our students, but many of your colleagues in the Pway Elementary School and across the district. So, thank you. Congratulations. Again, you don't have to go still working. Congratulations. shopping, whatever. Congratulations. And then this is your Yeah, you don't have to buy school stuff with it. More school clothes. I don't know what you're going to spend money on. That's yours. Yeah, I'm sure you will. Yeah,

034that's right. Oh, grand. That's right. There's your blanket. You can sit at a stadium. And then there's your retirey card. It'll get you into any school weekend. So, we'll see you have plenty of basketball games, football games, and all that kind of stuff. Thank you very much, Mary. Congratulations. We also look forward to I know it's not yet even the next school year, but we do look forward to recognizing all of our teachers who have reached milestone years in their career on our opening day, which would be those who are celebrating 20, 25, 30, and 35 years of service. So again, to all of our retirees, congratulations. Thank you. Mary, congratulations and thank you. And this will be the time. [Music] My pleasure. [Music] Not everybody's leaving. Dan, you're good. Poor people to Mr. Johnston.

035Well, thank you, Dr. Gail. And you know, it's always fun to see the folks that are retiring how large their smiles are. So, Mr. Fory, we're going to talk budget. We are. So, good evening. Uh I just have a couple slides this evening to uh sort of update some of the numbers from the recommendations that the board brought two weeks ago. So we are coming to an end in the uh 2526 budget process. Um as always we are working to make the budget fit around and accomplish our mission. And as we've been talking the last uh few months, really trying to look not only in 20 at 25 26, but how does that set us up for the future? What does that look like? How do we make sure that we're in a good spot?

036And uh and we're planning for that and for future board decisions that have to be made. So tonight, uh last meeting you, uh you all moved to have the proposed final budget on this evening's voting meeting. So that's uh what we're here to talk about and then you'll take action later on in the voting meeting. Couple things still left, right? So uh tonight's action. Uh if there are any questions, anything else people want to see out of the discussion tonight, we have opportunity to look at that on June 9th and then June 23rd would when be when the final budget is adopted. um set the tax rate uh approve the farmstead homesteads couple other actions that all come into play there uh on the second meeting in June. So with the updates uh from last

037time's discussion uh what I did is I've included and and you'll see in the board packet is the PTE 2028 the form that is uploaded and then sent to the state and then available for dis display. Um, so what it has in right there right now is [Music] 115,212,924 in expenses and 114,462,741 in revenue. Um this disparity, remember as we've talked a number of times the last few months, has to do with that uh emergency uh plan in there. And so that's why it has that unfund uh that unbalanced perspective there. When you look at purely just the planned expenses and revenues, those are both balanced. Uh I just wanted to go back to the slides we looked at last time and and talk a little bit couple changes. So in this case uh if

038you remember last time we had looked at it and it was that point based on a 3% tax increase uh this number the the 58 uh,864,171 is uh including the 3.5%. um it's not quite as much or as high as we would have thought because I have also included the second to last line which was not there before and that's the property tax reduction and so you know we had talked a little bit about last week about the average home should see about a $29 reduction so not all of the increase goes into the tax revenue some of it comes with the property tax reduction and so you do see about the $300,000 change from last year that was released at the beginning of this month uh by the state. So that is in there.

039Those are the changes on this page. Um no changes on the first slide with regard to the expenses. Um the change comes on the expense side as we talked uh two weeks ago. all of the tax increases rolling into those future projects. And so, uh, we that number has increased to $2.5 one million, uh, towards those projects. Um, and it allows us to set up to, uh, to one, put some cash aside, uh, but also be ready for the borrow when that time comes. And then the uh the transfer to cap reserve is in there as we talked about last week with 750,000 of that being contingent upon uh the state budget being passed and that being somewhat close to what the governor has recommended. So those are that's the same there. We looked at

040it last week. Uh these are the same as regard to the tax increase to the median home. So with 3.5% would result in about a $90 per year increase uh to the average home. I did update some of the numbers on the projections. uh they're they're still small, but uh one of the things I did take into account particularly in the second line of 2024 2025 um those deficits that we see in those years have that $750,000 contingency, that emergency in there. All right? So, we don't expect to spend that. I also did adjust what I believe the beginning fund balance will be uh based on the fact that I don't expect us to use the funds we'll talk about in a minute here. We expect because of the increase from the state to be

041higher and so tried to carry some of those along through as we talked two weeks ago. Um at this point I'm not assuming I'm assuming more uh historic increases from the state in those outlying years. uh but at least gives us a starting point to sort of see where where things are at and and we'll see more as we uh as things progress. Um so as I mentioned uh you do have the attached form uh and I will recommend that when you get into the voting agenda this evening that you pass the proposed final budget as presented. Questions on that before I talk about the capital projects? Yes. Yes. So, at the last meeting, I had asked for us to look at anything that we could dial back in our spending. Was there anything? Did

042I miss Did we Did we dial anything back in our spending in this presentation? No, we did not. Okay. Thank you. Yep. So, just take a look a little look as we've been talking the last couple months as we start to close 2425 out and and where we are capital reserve. Normally, we've looked at the capital reserve plan earlier um because of where we're at with regard to the the facility study and trying to figure out what's next. We really have been trying to see what do we need to do this summer and then as decisions get made on the facilities, then we'll lay out the rest of what the future years look like. But until we sort of lay out some timelines on those that that's changed that process a little bit. Um as

043I talked I think uh last meeting and maybe before that we do and as I said in an earlier slide we do expect to have um a positive variance with regard to revenue particularly from the state. Right? So we saw an extra $2.7 million came from the state uh beyond what we were initially budgeting. Um so with that in mind and additionally the capital reserve fund was used uh two years ago to finish out the last 3.3 million from the high school project which depleted that uh down to to pretty low sometimes it's been close to zero. We're probably about $100,000 right now. Um my recommendation the board consider here in the June meetings is that we would transfer a million dollars from the general fund to capital reserve. Um it's a onetime expense. it's

044do that onetime revenue that's in there and and we can take that and put it on a board action like I said in June. The other thing to look at and just be aware of because of where we're at with the the facility and just trying to understand which buildings are coming next, uh we did take a close look at what do we need to get done this summer. A couple things that we talked about, if you remember back in the fall, we addressed some of the furniture uh student desk issues at Martigville and uh Manor. Uh the other thing that was the request from the the academic side of the house uh is Micville still has blackboards in every classroom. Some classrooms only have blackboards. Um and so we looked at it. We work

045with a contractor and uh we would like to upgrade the whiteboards at Martyville Middle School. Uh so that that would be there. Um like I said, we were looking at we know that we're not addressing that building at any time in the short future. So it's opportunity to do that. I've also talked about our vehicle replacement and and the fact that we need to be doing at least one or two a year. Um I have two vehicles on here that I have to do this summer. Our handicap van that has a lift is used almost every day uh by our special ed department as we take children around. Uh that van is from 2010. Um I think that most of the aids understand how to make the lift work and it works most days. Um

046but the last thing we need is the lift not working when we have students out someplace. And so that is definitely a high priority. Uh, we also want to replace one of the maintenance trucks and that'll either replace a 2010 truck or we have a 201 12 utility van when we get the truck. We'll figure out which one of those two is going away, but one of those two would go away with that. Um, we do have as we have annually have some larger custodial equipment we try to keep refreshed in the building. And uh a number of years ago when the parking deck was refreshed, uh we signed an agreement uh with High at that time to do some ongoing uh maintenance over the next 5 years. And so that that $20,000 is part

047of continuing to bring that up to standard. The last thing that I don't have a price on right now that we're going back and forth with a couple vendors, uh we have a pretty large section of the roof at Echelon, uh sort of from the library back through. It's a peaked roof. We've had uh numerous issues the last few weeks, particularly with the rain and the wind. Um that portion of roof has two sheets of rubber on it and then a coating over top of it. and we are getting water between the sheets. And so we're trying to figure out what is the best most economical way to sort of resolve that knowing that obviously there's a lot to come in that building in the future. But uh with that still being at least a

048couple years, so we would be out of that building if that's the case, we need to make sure that we're not bringing water in. So we're we're looking at that type scenario. questions on either the transfer or any of the things that we're trying to look at. Yes. Go ahead. Just two quick questions. The roof repairs, I'm pre assume that that's beyond the the warranty. Well, well beyond. Okay. I assume. And the hand Don't laugh. And so the handicap van, is that one of our employees? It Yeah, we our employees um mo some of DE's uh staff use that to take our our children out to experiences. Oh, okay. So, it's not to get them to and from. No, no, no. It's not to and from. It's the It's the field trips and and work

049experiences and all sorts. Okay. Like I said, that that's probably one of our most used vans. [Applause] Two. Go ahead. Um, two questions regarding vehicles. Do we ever look at leasing versus purchasing and how that would benefit the district? Um, I that's not something I've looked at recently. Okay. Um, but I could take a look and see if there's um I can ask around too to see if anyone's doing that, how that's worked one way or the other. Yeah, I I mean I don't know how that if if or if it would benefit us at all or not, but be interesting to find out. And then we had a conversation at facilities briefly when we were discussing Echelman about the uh one portion of the playground there being of concern. Is that on the radar

050to for removal or It is. I'm I'm trying to see how our next facility meeting goes and that might be something that we look at. Okay. All right. Thank you. I I do know in the past and I'll I'll still look at it. One of the issues with leasing is um we like the 2010 we have a tendency in most schools where they buy and we keep them 15 20 years and so right like I don't know if the cycle makes sense but I was just curious you know when we're looking at $92,000 um for a van which I mean that's what they cost so the van itself's around 60 the other 30 of them right it's the equipment so Just looking at that if there was other ways that we could save the taxpayers

051some money. I did talk to briefly our transportation contractors and essentially we play we pay in a year and a half for them to make all the trips for us what we pay one time to buy this. So yeah. No, I think us having our own definitely makes sense. I just wasn't sure if there's a better No, I'll look at the leasing and see what Thank you, Mr. Be. Yeah, I just um some of the students come to our facility and I fully support Yeah. the band being up. No, it definitely provides opportunity for this particular for sure. I mean, it's uh Yeah, I won't go into too many details, but yeah, it's it's definitely needed. So, and um as far as the roof repair, um he said it's already two two coats of or

052two layers of rubber. Yeah. And uh seal coat over top of two coats. Yeah. Yeah. And Yeah. On a slow proof. On a slow coat. Yeah. Yeah. I I You don't have any estimate yet then? No. We're trying to figure out how much to what extent could we do half of you know the one side it seems so we have a couple different roofers that are looking at it this is it leak pretty decent or is it just we're starting to notice it or I think Dr. Gale mentioned that um we do have some new interesting water structures now in the interior of the building last couple days. So water some water water features on structures. Yes. Are the proposed positions in this final budget are they built into this? So yeah, if you can

053go back to and I think Miss Snapsinger, what we have talked about is the differences in in positions we've made the requests. Uh when we were putting this part of the presentation together and this information together, we did include those, but I think you know depending on what the board has the approval for of the additional positions, that money would either be in salaries and benefits or it would go into if you go to the next slide, Mr. before it would be in the the future projects that that pot of money. So in this case, like we had two weeks ago, it includes three of the four requests as well as the other personnel requests that we have either been approved or in process. Other questions? One quick question. The um one you know one

054of the positions uh what percent right now because last time you had 3% on there uh some of the members went 3.5. Um what would that additional [Applause] position that we're discussing. What would that um be in effect for tax portion? So, right assuming $100,000 is so half a percent is $300,000. So, it's roughly 2 between one and two. [Music] Any other questions for Mr. For? This was for information only. We already have the motion. Um, and we'll see it in 2A on the voting agenda. Um, number three, PSBA delegate assembly 2025. There has been a change over the last several years. The delegate assembly was virtual, which was uh very convenient. It was separate from the conference. Um now it is back as part of the conference I think in order to uh increase

055attendance as well. We are able to have uh three members. You don't have to attend the conference to be able to go. It is at 2:30 p.m. on Tuesday, October 21st. And we need to have their we need to have our you know who our reps will be. Uh I have done the last few years virtually. Unfortunately I will not be able to go up uh on the 21st to take part. Uh as much as I love a good water park um I cannot go. So are there three folks that would like to volunteer their time and we will thank you profusely and uh vote on you next month. I am not able to attend unfortunately. If you haven't done the delegate assembly though I've done it several times. It's an interesting experience and I

056will say as someone who just spent a day in Harrisburg advocating on the PSBA platforms, it is very important that if you are available to go that we have a voice because it it is part of what determines the platforms and the things that PSBA does for the following year. So you said just that day like that after well the the delegate assembly is starts at 2:30. I would say it would last what? Three hours. About three hours. Three hours. The conference begins uh sort of Sunday night but in earnest Monday and then generally finishes around noon 1:00 on Tuesday and then the delegation will be after that. Okay. Um I I can probably go up there for that. Thank you. I'll let you know. Well, we have to decide tonight. Do we have to

057decide tonight? I thought we hadn't. We're going to we'll vote on it next week or next meeting, but I need to know who's going to be on the agenda. But you could you can let me know between now and then. Okay. I was going to say we can you can always retract your name later. That's true. Not like anybody's jumping up and down. Yeah. They're getting pretty strict about take your grandchild, jumping in and out. Yeah. Yeah. And we can send up to three. We We don't have to send three. Yeah. So, Mr. Lombardo, we appreciate your name going on there. Thank you, sir. Is anybody else planning on going to the conference in and of itself? I haven't thought about it, but I I might Yeah. So, can we get you to hang on

058with Mr. Lombarda? No, it's it's a riveting three hours. I'm And I'm being serious like it is. It's three hours, but if you haven't done it, it's worth do. It is interesting and you get to have a voice. I would probably head home Monday night with my kids. Yeah. It's interesting in that you hear what other people from other districts what their perspectives are on copious notes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there will be copious notes on it. There will be. So, we'll we'll go with Mr. Lombardo for the moment. Miss Work. Put Miss Work. I already put her in. Yeah. Miss Work. So, we will place those names for approval on June 9th. If anybody you want to think about it between now and then, we certainly can slide. You can let Dr. Gail know at

059graduation if you decide you want to be a delegate. No one's jumping at that. Uh before we adjourn, one one thing for the board. Uh we we do have to set a retreat date in June and I know Dr. Dale sent out an email about June 17th, 18th. Um, we we also are cognizant of people having vacations. If there's anybody that's available, you know, we we can look at that first week of June. We were trying to avoid anything in conjunction with uh graduation. Um, I know a couple of us are on vacation week of June 9th. A couple of us on vacation the week of June 23rd. So, uh, we're running out of time. Although um certainly we can move it into July if that would be better, but we're getting a little late

060in being able to set goals for the superintendent and such. 17th and 18th, I'm out of town. So that's I mean I can call in and Well, are you out of town for fun or are you What's that? Are you out of town for fun on vacation or something? Kind of. Well, we're not having you call in if you had it that first week of June. What dates were you looking at? That Friday. Friday, June 6. That's what is that? The last day of school coming up. The 5th is the last day of school. Uh the fifth I would be available in the afternoon. The sixth is the sixth is uh the Friday. Sixth is fine. Yeah, that might be a good sixth. Good. I think it may work. That might be better. Do a

061do a breakfast [Music] uh breakfast meeting. I'm out for all of them. So unless it's like Sunday I'm until August. out and I'm sorry. Bless it's us. That's the only day of all. Well, hopefully we can we'll get the topics out. You know, we don't have a lot of time at this at this juncture. So, does June 6th are we going with June 6? Does that work for you, doctor? I can make work. Mr. Beaks, Mr. Straw. Yeah, true. I'll figure it out. Miss work. Yeah, I think it does. Mr. Swagger time, I have to be during the day. I definitely can't do the evening. Yeah, I I would not not, you know, vote for a evening Friday. Yeah, I love you all, but I need to be done by like 4 or 5 that

062day. 10 o'clock. Earlier, late earlier, earlier 8:00 Maybe you can. Why don't we see what topics we have? We'll try to get our topics to you right away and see how much of the day we need. Let's say we start at 8:00. We put a pin on it no later than about 8:30. Oh, Miss Wart, you know, Mr. Stub doesn't ask for much ever. I know some of us are still working, Miss W. What would you like, Mr. Stub? 8:35 8:30. We'll put a pin in it at noon. What do you What do you say? A focus 3 and a half hours. If we get done earlier, we get done earlier. That sounds good to me. We'll have a tea time at 12:30, Dr. Gil. Here at the high school, I'm assuming. Yeah. Do we

063get bagels? We'll get bagels. We'll get you bagels. We'll get bagels and plenty of And plenty of coffee. Coffee. Cheese. Cottage cheese. M. Oh, miss word. Donna worked asking for cottage cheese. Just one cup is probably sufficient. All right. 66 8:30 LGI. Please have anything you'd like to talk about by say next Friday and you can send those to Dr. Gail and myself. We'll get an agenda out early that following week and then away we go. What's the date? The 30th. The 30th for Okay, thank you very much everybody. Anything else for the good of the committee of the whole? Okay, with that I'll adjourn the committee of the whole and I'll call to order the Monday, May 19th Pen Manor School Board voting agenda. Would you please join me for a moment of silence

064and the flag salute? Thank you. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The next scheduled meeting of the Pen Manor School Board will be held on Monday, June 9th, 2025. Following the committee of the whole meeting, an executive session was held prior to the committee of the whole meeting for the purpose of discussing personnel, student matters, and superintendent evaluation as detailed on the committee of the whole agenda. Mrs. Rhodess, may we have a roll call, please? Sure. Mr. Beats, here. Mr. Her here. Mr. Jackson, you with us? Here. Thank you. Mr. Lombardo here. Mr. Stro here. Mr. Swagger here. Ms. Word here. Mrs. Massiger here. Dr. Pullerton here. Nine board members

065present. Hey Joe. Um, Dell just text me asking if you could just speak up a little bit. Oh, you mean? I guess. Yeah, I guess he's having a bit of a hard time. Oh, okay. Mr. Jackson, can you hear me? Yeah. Thank you. At each of our meetings, we have two opportunities for our citizens to make comments to this is the first opportunity that pertain to action items on the board voting agenda. Do we have any citizens comments on the board voting agenda? State your name and municipality. Hi, Jackie Norman and I am from Manor Township, uh, Parkfield Development. Um, I actually have questions regarding the capital reserve plan. Um, is it really necessary to have whiteboards for $47,000? I mean, I think that's a little much. Um, the other thing, um, as far as

066a handicap van goes, have you even considered speaking to any of the local dealerships who would be probably willing to comp with their name on it for Pen Manor? Have you considered that? That's another thought. As far as your roofing goes, do you have insurance? I'm sure you have building insurance. You if you have wind damage, you should be covered with a deductible. Correct. Why are we spending even more money on that? And custodial equipment for $20,000. What is that for? That's what I want to know. And why do you need another maintenance truck for $50,000? And by increasing our taxes to 3 1/2% at a time when people are really just trying to buy eggs is a little much. Okay, I'm at $9,000 a year already. I don't have a problem paying taxes. Okay,

067I don't. But it's like you're blowing money left and right and it's it's out of control. It's out of control. I've never walked into a high school this size. Honestly, I went to a high school in Long Island. It wasn't even close to this size. I paid my father paid $7,000 a year for us to go to school back then, private school. And I can't believe the amount of money that you guys go through. It's insane. You have so much empty space here that's not even used. And why is it that buildings are not refurbished during the summer? I mean, you have all summer to hire. Even before that, you line up your contractors, you throw them a bonus. Anybody can re rebuild a bridge in in a week. Things happen when you show them

068cash. Okay? Why build another building? Expand on it. Fix it. Fix the air conditioning systems. I can't understand the waste. It's too much. Thank you. Thank you. Any other citizens comments? Okay. Um Shauna Chanelli Konos Stoa. Um am I allowed to peg back off of what she was saying? As long as it's a board voting item. Okay. Um, again, I always like to thank each of you for your dedication and your time. Um, I know you take a lot of time away from your families and other things you could be doing. So, I do thank you for that. Um, I also am not generally opposed to contributing to a community. Um, so I understand there are times when taxes do need to be raised. Um, but I feel like this is the second at least

069the second year that I'm hearing from one or two board members and I wish more would speak up if you feel this way. um you know, why are we even thinking about raising taxes if we're not talking seriously about ways that we can reduce cost or um do things differently um or cut things. Um last year a list was asked for, a small list was given. I quite frankly I don't remember even though a list was given if anything really was cut. Um like is it just lip service? Are we actually seriously looking to how we can be good stewards of people's tax dollars? Um so I really wish that it would be taken seriously um ways that we can look at things differently together. um even if it's not ideally what we want any

070of us. Um so I wish that that you would consider that and actually put your foot down and say you would like this information and and you expect it to be there. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, my name is Tim Guy. I live in uh Mayor Township. Um my kids are in kindergarten, second grade in Pen Mayor School District, so they will be with you guys for a long time here coming up. Um and we need to put more money into our schools. I know if you look at the numbers, we spend some of the least amount of money per pupil in the state on our kids. We have one of the worst student teacher ratios in the county. We're one of the only districts in the state that doesn't offer full day kindergarten to

071our kids. We need more teachers in classrooms. So, um we already don't spend a lot of money in our in our district on the things that our students need and we need to make sure that we're doing that. Whether that's reappropriating how we're spending our tax funds, looking at our general fund balance, that's really high compared to a lot of other districts in the county. But we we need to make sure that we're spending that money on our kids. And right now, we are not doing that. and we have a lot of things that we could be supplying to our our students and that I want my kids to have while they're here for the next 10, 12, 13 years. So, I I don't know if three and a half percent or 3% or anything

072that makes a difference, but we need to make sure that we are, you know, putting that money where students need it and fixing some of these issues that I see in the district and I know a lot of people are seeing as I walk around talk to people in the in the area. So, just some things to to think about where we're putting our funds and making sure they're going to the best places for our kids. Thank you. Well, there's only two of you left. Are you? [Music] May I have a motion to approve the minutes of our board voting agenda from May 5th? Thank you. Second. Thank you. Any further comment or question? All those in favor? Eight affirmative votes. Mr. Jackson. Yeah. Nine affirmative votes. Dr. Gail, superintendent's report. Thank you, Dr. Fullerton.

073Uh, I think it goes without saying that this is a busy time of the school year, but I certainly uh feel that all of the activity is really leading to a lot of action. And I was just off the top of my head thinking about the number of things that have taken place here over the last couple of weeks as we wind down the school year and celebrate all that our students have done. Uh there's been concerts. Uh the high school performance last week was spectacular. Some of our elementary schools have had their concerts, middle school concert. Uh on Friday in between rain and all the other things that came through weatherwise, our sixth graders enjoyed field day. Uh number of schools have had all school events. Uh number of schools have had their field

074trips. Uh so it's certainly the end of the year. Uh this is our last full week of school. Uh we have about 12 days left. Uh and there will certainly be a lot more that we will uh be celebrating and including this year. I do want to congratulate uh many of our elementary uh young ladies who participated in the girls on the run program this year. The majority of our elementary schools have girls on the run program that happens after school and Saturday was the culminating five 5k run. Also want to congratulate eight of our track athletes, high school track athletes for their participation in districts. uh we had total of eight athletes participating and a number of them came away with uh awards and have qualified to go on to uh states. So congratulations

075to Kate Harish. Kate finished third in the uh long jump and fifth in the pole vault. Uh Tristan Weaver finished fifth in the 1600 meter run. and uh Ethan Kloppman finished second in the high jump. Uh and then Elijah Hess uh was the district champion in the javelin. In addition to those athletes, Kelby Dings, Ada Morris, and Michaela Wrestler and Ethan Addie also participated in the district meet. Also, congratulations to our girls and boys lacrosse teams for their first round of district playoffs. Uh they won and they play, I believe it's tomorrow night. Uh sadly our girls uh softball team played their first round of districts against Dallas Town but came out on the short end. Uh so they have finished their season. Um but over the next couple weeks obviously there'll be a lot

076more of activities along with the congratulations to these students for their participation. That's all I have. Any questions for Dr. G? Okay. Treasures report. Oh, sorry. Side of the table, man. I had to transfer report for April 2025. Your turn. The balance sheet as of April 30, 2025 shows the total assets of 41 million 49 59,571.98 and there are bills to be paid and ratified this evening. Thank you, Mr. Fury. May I have a motion to pay our bills? So move. Thank you. A second. Second. Thank you. Any further comment or question? question with all some of the things is this the month where we get all back things caught up into wasn't weren't we like something behind and that was in February. We got that back up in February. Okay. Well, we're all behind.

077We're going to have to we're all caught up. Okay. Okay. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Eight affirmative votes. Mr. Jackson. Yes. Nine affirmative votes. All right. To review our agenda, item 2 A through C. Any comment or question? Yes. I'd like to table uh 2 B and 2 C. Okay. A motion on that or a second on that and then a vote on just the that piece of it. Okay. So, Mr. Beaks would like to table items 2B and 2 C. May I have a motion to do so? He made the motion. Oh, he might may have a second to do so. I'll second that. Okay. Any comment or question? Um if if this should pass, I think that um based upon the conversations that we've had at previous

078meetings, um if these should be items on the retreat that we discuss, I think we've identified there are some issues in the district that we need to address. Um and maybe we just need to look at addressing them differently than what the administration has proposed. Any other comment or question? I mean, I just like again goals. We've we're talking about investing a $100,000 plus or minus what what what is it we're going to get out of that $100,000? And um and showc I just I see it as a legal issue and and I'm struggling having a taxpayers pay for something that's a legal issue. And um and like you know, Miss Navigator said, you know, have we looked at all other ways to be able to do that? And so I just I think it's

079I'd like to see goals. If we're going to go forth it, how are we going to drive truency down? What are we going to get to? So Mr. Beaks, when you say the $100,000, you're referring specifically to the learning facilitator. Yeah. Student engagement for the student engagement. I mean, right that particular right. And the other uh as far as our learning facilitators still haven't seen justification for the additional nine days. We give them 10 days, you know, to do some of the pre pre uh school year development, that type of stuff. Um but yeah, so and correct me if I'm wrong, that's an additional $9,000 for those days. Correct. For both, right? Yes, for both. Yes. Is there a reason why or a total of it would be a total of $11,000 for both of

080them to be increased over what we have paid them in the past? Is there a reason why uh we want to table this rather than just vote on it straight up tonight? So that way seems like tableabling is simply kicking it down the road. Whereas if we just vote on it tonight, we can give the administration clear direction. Yeah, I'm not I don't want to quite frankly I don't want to vote on it and it passes. So right now we have a chance to get the data to see what exactly it is and then but right now I just don't have enough information to feel comfortable to vote up or down. Again, Mr. speaks. You're referring to the um student engagement and the learning facilities or both. So, the plan would be to talk about

081it at the retreat and then either bring it for an up down vote or bring a modified version of it. That would that would be my desire. I'm I'm one option. That's my desire too. You know, it's Does that apply to the learning facilitator job description though? Isn't that more an issue with the student engagement? I think it's both. It's those extra 19 days. So, not getting rid of the facilitators as a position, right? For me, it's the extra 19 days. Correct. And then that the entire position. Yeah. It's your expense. Yeah. Okay. Any other comment? So, we have a motion and a second to table 2B and 2 C. All those in favor. Okay. Seven affirmative votes. Mr. Jackson, are you do you want to vote to table 2 B and C? Oh, if

082we tell what we're coming at the next meeting or not, it would be on the next meeting. Correct. Yes or no? No. Okay. No. Got it. And any other opposed? Okay. Seven. Affirmative. Two opposed. Okay. So, item 2 A. Well, no, we're not ready to vote yet. Uh just now we're just at 2 A. Is there any then any comment or question on 2 A? Okay. Item three A through H. I'd like to call item three. I'm sorry. A item 3 A. You'd like to pull it. Pull it. So we vote on it separately. Correct. Okay. Any other questions on 3 A through H and item 4 A through G. Okay. May I have a motion to approve item 2A? So move. Thank you. A second. Second. Thank you. Any further comment or question? Um,

083this is the second year in a row where members of this board have asked to see options and we've gotten to this point and we haven't seen them. And so I'm increasingly frustrated by that. Um, and I was very clear that I will not support a budget with a tax increase where we don't take seriously looking at places we can dial back. And I and that wasn't what we saw today was basically what we saw two weeks ago, just taxing more. Um, and so that's very frustrating. Agreed. Any other comments or questions? All those in favor? Five affirmative. Mr. Jackson six affirmative. All those opposed. I'm at the county. Two opposed. I'm saying I was going to say I was missing and I'm saying. Thank you. So motion carries. Motion carries. All right. Item 3A.

084May I have a motion to approve? So moved. Thank you. Second. Second. Thank you. Any further comment or question? I just struggle with we talked about it during the retreat and uh just struggle with uh helping the students at their best time to know academic excellence and when they have the most support in their lives that when you get in trouble life's harder. So I think we need to work on that. So, okay. I won't go in any further be the student. Thank you. Appreciate it. Any other comment or question? All those in favor? Seven affirmative votes. Mr. Jackson, yes. Eight affirmative votes. All those opposed? One opposed. Okay. Item 3B through H. Certainly want to call out 3B and congratulate those who've met their requirements to be considered graduates of the class of 2025.

085Any comment or question 3B through H or did I get a motion? Did I not get a motion? I did not get a motion. So move. I had a second. Second. Okay. Must be having whatever Mr. Fory had. I don't know. Yeah. A little contagious. Motion in a second. No other comments or questions. All those in favor? Eight affirmative votes. Mr. Jackson. Yes. Nine affirmative votes. And item 4 A through G. We have a motion to approve. So move. And a second. Second. Thank you. Any further comment or question? All those in favor? Eight affirmative votes. Mr. Jackson. Yeah. Nine affirmative votes. Okay. We have reached the second opportunity for citizens to comment and be commenting on any district business. Seeing none, anything else for the good of the board? Seeing none, we will see

086everybody on June 2nd. June 6. Congratulations. June 4th. June 4th. June 469. We're going to see each other.

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