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Wednesday April 9, 2025 School Board Meeting

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YouTube / Philipsburg-Osceola School District
Date
2025-04-10
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Clearfield County, PA
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4,848 words · about 27 min
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2026-06-10

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0019, 2025. As a committee as a whole, please rise for the pledge of [Music] allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. roll. Mrs. Bainy Shaw, Dr. Bary here. Mrs. Bush here. Mr. Jeffrey present. Mrs. Lamb, Mr. Manachic here, Mr. Vanis here. And Mr. Wood present. There any visitors? Visitor comments? No. Uh there'll be an executive session or anformational meeting after this meeting is adjourned. It'll be related to personnel and student issues. There'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda to approve the March 26 25 voting meeting minutes as presented. And there'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda to approve the April 9th, 2025 committee meeting minutes as presented. And we'll go

002to Dr. Gushnik for administrator. All right, we have a couple reports. So tonight we have Allison Austin Garcia. It's just me. My sister wasn't able to make it. Ah. So we're going with Austin. Hey, I just want to put a a plug in for anyone who made it to the musical over the weekend. They did an excellent job. Austin did an excellent job. Thank you. And so um I just want to congratulate everyone who Austin and uh we're happy to have them here tonight with the report for the month. Thank you. So this month's quote is um if you don't like to read, you haven't found the right book, which is a quote from March 21st uh is World Down Syndrome Day with April 2nd being World Autism Awareness Day. Uh here's um two images

003we had from our Facebook as well as an image of our um flex class showing their support celebration for this for these days. Uh two members of our PO unified budget team, Danny Lesnar and Kazen has has designed t-shirts uh for autism acceptance month which is the month of April. And here's their design that they made. You can also buy the t-shirts here at the link I know is on the Facebook. Um in the in the library we celebrated the 40th anniversary of music in our schools month um with we had a series of student musicians in the library. Um it was coordinated by Miss Cahoo and Mazosquez where we had students perform many concerts during lunch in the library for the audience of their parents and teachers and he performed as well. I performed

004as well. I do believe there's an image of that. Here's um a couple other of our my peers performing in the library. Not only did we have singing singing next slide, we also had uh they were playing instruments such as a guitar or piano. Um for some students this was their first time performing in front of a crowd. The audience of PO students demonstrated uh appropriate concert etiquette which reflected the pride and respect for music and the hard work that was involved in it. um the events for April in our library. We have this student poetry competition uh where students can submit their own poetry uh anonymously where we then hold a vote um throughout the school. Um and winners will be announced on April 30th. Uh the people who uh win can win like

005gift cards of their choice. Uh we also have the drop everything and read celebration on April 14th. Um we have the building reading stamina with ELA 12 classes. This is to help find the right book for each student. And we have the Titanic anniversary cahoot with Miss um I think she's holding like a like a trivia during lunches where you could answer Cahoot questions uh based off seeing the Titanic for its anniversary um in the library as well. We also had our band and chorus concert. Uh the PHS music department held their spring uh concert on March 4th. Uh it featured our select choir, our regular chorus, our symphonic and our symphonic band. In addition, we had student representatives who um participated in contemporary a capella festival this year also performing piece. Our next concert

006will be May 8th, 2025 at 7:30 p.m. in the PHS auditorium. Which one's that? Let's check. Uh that is our pops concert and then we have a showcase where students can perform a song or number of their choosing. That is at the end of May. We also have regional chorus and Dan. Uh congratulations to Abby Pleski, Grace Henley, Luke, and Eli Hoy for participating in the excellent performance for the region three chorus. Uh we had Abigail placed at seventh, Grace at 10th. Um so we're very happy that two place in the top 10. Additionally, we would also like to congratulate Lucas Amy for getting first chair on Barry Sax code and he qualified for all state concert band which he left for today. So wish him well. We also hosted a sweetheart dance um for

007Valentine's Day. It was sponsored by the PHS cheer team and we're happy many students came out and enjoyed the event. As well, we had our academic decathlon state championship. Um the academic decathlon team went to Warriors for PA, which is just outside of Philly to compete um in the state competition. We won gold, silver, and bronze in almost every category, including speech, interview, and essay. And what did you win? I got a bronze in my interview. Thank you. Um, as well, we just put on our musical, Villa the musical. Uh, we had great turnout with many people coming to see it. Um, hopefully we uh secured some Isaac nominations for our production. Um, we did get um a certified nomination for our stage design and uh choreography. You guys won't find that out for like

008two weeks, right? Yep. Beginning of May. Um, our baseball team has been having an incredibly great season. Um, they've been dominating and have been undefeated so far. Um, there's some pictures of them playing at a recent game. Our softball team participated in Reading Cross America Week where they read to elementary schools. We're very proud of them. Our track team has been having a wonderful competition season where they competed in multiple meets over the past month. They've placed well amongst many of their needs and we're very proud of them. Today we had our junior class officer election where the junior class had organized an event where they had those students running for office um give speeches as to why they should be elected. It was a very wonderful event where many of the students demonstrated courage

009and public speaking in front of their peers as well as the audience who demonstrated great listening skills and manners. Um this Friday is when the winner of each of each office will be announced. So stay tuned. as well. We had our math competition team travel to Shippensburg University to participate in a math competition and festival. Uh, as well as taking tests they played along with math games that challenged their logic and critical thinking as well as listen to a university speaker talk about nonword proofs. Um, and of course enjoy the buffet. Our CCTC, sorry, CCCTC team for Skills USA um competed and they placed first overall as a team. Um they will we had um Marley Nelson placed third for cosmetology and place first for information technology. They will be advancing on to the national

010competition in Atlanta, Georgia on June 23rd to 27th. We're very proud of them. Our illustrators club members painted windows downtown to help prepare for that week's um Marty Raw. Here's an image of the window that they came. Our CSO um officers also presented science ideas to elementary students. Uh they also attended a trip to SH uh sorry Johntown today um as their end of year reward for being uh in CSO. Um just trying to get more students to be um involved in STEM and interested as long um as they move up um in grade levels into middle school and high school. Upcoming events, we have many senior schedu senior activities scheduled for May. You can see this all on our district website such as senior sunrise, um our senior breakfast, and practice graduation. As well,

011we have Keystone testing beginning on May 12th. We also have our AP testing season beginning on May 5th. Uh what's new this year is that APs are completely computerized, so they're completely off paper besides certain writing portions of it, but um it was supposed to be a slow roll out. Now it's just fully digitized. So, it's very exciting and neat to try out. We also have another math competition at Penn State Altuna on May 13th. Um May 9th we have our prom theme is go to the beach beach thing which is uh mainly boardwalk. I'm very excited to see how that turns out as well as we have our baseball, softball and track teams continuing on and competing. Do you want to tell them which AP test you're taking? I have AP Cal uh AP

012um I have that class with Miss Miller. I'm taking that. I'm also taking the AP literature test. I have that class with Mrs. as well as my AP governance class which I have with Mr. uh Mr. Bush. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Very good job. Thanks, Mr. Miller. Yeah. All right. Thank you. We have also on our agenda tonight for reports, uh we're alternating between the work sessions and the voting meetings, we have uh some elementary school presentations from the principles. I'm going to share um for Oil Mills Elementary. Um I'm going to highlight um some science information. Um both elementary schools have been working some engineering science into K through five. We've been working with Yes Science Kids and this has been going on for a couple years. This year we have elaborated

013a little bit on a couple grade levels. In first grade, they do some engineering with nightlights. So, first graders are tasked with um you have to create a nightlight in a bedroom for two kids that have different preferences on lights. Um so, Mr. Park's class had to do he brought Penn State back in and they were doing a research study. So Penn State came in and kind of watched the kids go through it. Um so it was pretty cool. Um just watching them go through it. So I think the picture you have in your agenda tonight is some of his first graders working together. Um kind of going through the process. Um then skip ahead to fourth grade. They have to engineer safety vests um for on bicycles. Um they use circuits and they have

014to create a vest um with working turn signals that you know go left or right. It's pretty cool. Um and what Mr. good in his computer class is doing is he's taking that a step further and Penn State is coming in and has to make a circuit um with coding a signal bracelet. So, it's kind of cool how computer and classrooms are all kind of working together um to do these science things in the classroom. So, if you're ever coming in, it's really cool to see kids being engineers in the classroom even at young ages um in all these different classrooms working together. Um it's it's a pretty neat experience. So, if you ever get a chance, I highly recommend you coming in and seeing it because it's next level. The kids are using the

015vocabulary. Um, pretty awesome to see. But that's what's going on at OM. So, thank you, Miss Mason. Just try. All right. Good evening, everybody. Um, a couple things going on at PE. Uh, last time I was here, I talked about the second grade students. They were holding a movie night for one of their classmates that was diagnosed with cancer in January. On here, I put the what we thought the total was. The total ended up being over $10,000 that the community and their classmates raised, which was amazing. Um, the family's been, you know, really appreciative of everything, including they wanted to thank the board, thank the community, thank all the principles for everything that the district has done to help support them. Uh the next part are we have a fifth grade student council and

016recently our fifth grade student council did a uh animal supply kind of fundraiser and last week we visited the SPCA in Clearfield. They they uh gave them their supplies and they were excited to see some of the animals there. So those are a couple things going on at PE. Um and leading into kind of uh Mrs. Reese's uh athletics. I just want to share on the wrestling side of things, we just had um seven student athletes that were named to academic all state by the P Pennsylvania Wrestling Coaches Association. So, we had two first team uh student athletes, Ace Foster and Connor Genno were named first team all academic all state. Uh Caleb Hmel and Connor or Caleb Hmel and uh Colton Chapman were named second team. Avery Gable, Charlie Hunt, and VA Keepart were

017named 13. So, I just want to share that. It just came out in the last few days, so I wanted to I asked Kelly if I could share that. She said absolutely. So, wanted to share that with everybody. Thank you. Thanks, Mr. F. Dr. Reese, do you have some highlights for us tonight? Highlights. Quick highlights. Um, just to continue on um what Mr. Garcia said earlier about our sport force teams. Um, most recently tonight, our varsity baseball team continued on. They're undefeated. They're six and0. Um, we were supposed to play Bishop Carol today. They reached out to me last night to say their field was unplayable. So, we were able to have our field ready and get officials in time for today. So, we brought Bishop Carol here. We, uh, beat them 19 nothing, five

018innings. So, it's a big win for us. Um, I got our JV team another game today just to get it in without the rain. The rain's been killing the spring season, raining, cold, and snow. U, but JB traveled to West Branch in our backyard and, uh, they did lose tonight. Their overall record is two and five. Um, junior high baseball, their our A team's four- one. The B team's 22 and one. Um, so I'm hoping they've had some cancellations, so I'm hoping to get some more games in for them coming up. Um, varsity softball, they're super excited for this season. Uh, they had a little bump in the road. They're four and three currently. Um, but they have 23 total players out and they're excited for fielding a JB team whenever other teams have it.

019So, that's exciting. This year, our JB team's four and two. Uh track and field, our junior high team is on the road today to Tyrone. Um we haven't really had any uh beat wins with them, but they're having some individual successes along the way, so it's exciting to see that. Um and then our varsity teams at Belfont today. Um they're also having some individual uh performances. They're doing well. Um, in regards to the team, uh, we haven't had wins, but we do have 55 student athletes out for a high school track and field, which is pretty exciting to to have that many kids on a team. Um, so spring season, hopefully it warms up here, but I don't think it's going to. I think we have cold weather coming, but so we'll just keep plugging.

020It's like a day by day. Sorry for all the emails. They get daily emails of what's canceled and what's getting postponed and when. All right. Thank you. Thanks, Dr. All right. Up next, we are going to have Mr. Martin going to talk some numbers with us here tonight. Last two meetings we went over the revenues that we received. We went over our state revenues. The first uh meeting and last meeting we went over our local and federal revenues. So today we're just going to focus on um salaries and benefits. Um and then we'll talk about some of the other expenses in the next meeting. So this is just the general fund. This doesn't include our cafeteria, but for the general fund, our actual salaries and benefits 2324 is a little under 24 million. We budgeted

021for 2425 about 24.6 million. We're estimating to come in around 24.7 and proposed 2526 is 25.7. Next slide. So this breaks down the salaries and the benefits yearbyear and shows the increases. Um and again and we'll get into the slides kind of talking about that but the piece retirement health insurance because of those amounts and everything our benefits are a large portion of of the salary. So again you can see back in 2021 uh about 12.8 million for salaries about 9.5 million uh for benefits. Fast forward to 2324 actuals uh 13.9 million in salaries benefits a little over 10 million. um 2425 budget again 14.5 and 10.1 and then proposed the 2526 salaries 14.8 benefits 10.8 next slide. So, what makes up the benefits is um social security. Uh it's about 1.1 million pieers. Um

022again, we'll get to the rates of where they're at, but it's almost 34% of salary. So, it's 4.9 million. Health insurance $4.3 million. That only $143 grand HSA contribution $190,000 and worker comp,000. So, about 10.8 million in total. Next slide. This gives a breakdown of salaries and benefits by our different areas. So we have instructional, we have support services and then we have student activities. So um again student activities would be for our athletics and for our fine arts program instructional again the main things that would be run through there would be our regular federal programs where special education programs um career and technology then driver and support it would be guidance library nursing superintendent principles business operations maintenance security transportation technology and human resources. So again, as you can see, our um we again

0232021 instructional was about 9.1 million in salaries, about 3.9 in support services, about 378,000 in student activities. We get to the actual in 2324. The instructional um increased up to about 9.5 million. The um support services stayed about flat at about 3.9 and then student activities was a little bit higher. If we look at um what we're budgeting for 2526 um again about 10.5 million in instruction support services 3.9 million student activities around 422,000 um and then if we get again go down to the benefit piece here um you can see again instruction um 6.7 million support services a little under three million student activities it's a little under 200 grand and again going to 2324 the instructional amounts about 7.1 support services 2.7 student activities 177,000 and then when we look at the proposals

0247.7 for instructional support services 2.8 me and then student activities 227,000. One thing I will point out if you look at this again we we increased our incentive buyouts and you can see that reflected in there where you saw more we had less people taking the health insurance and more people taking the incentive buyouts and so you can kind of see that reflected when you get to 2324 if you look at our benefit cost in 2223 was 10.4 4 million. If you look there, it was 10 million. So we went down a couple hundred thousand. And then some of those buyouts obviously got reflected. They show up as salary and then they go into there. So again, if you added up 2324, the total salaries and total benefits, that amount was less than what it

025was in 2223. In 2425 in last year's budget, especially on the instructional side, we had some needs, more special education needs. We had to add an extra classroom and instructional aid. So you kind of see that reflected in the instructional side. And then obviously when we get into 2526 and we'll talk about it, but I'm predicting that we were able I'm predicting that we were able to save some funds there as far as what the health insurance cost were. Fast forward to 2526 and we're looking at 4.3 million. So again 38 4 million 3.7 3.6 4.3 for proposed 2526 is about a 20% increase across the board. But down below there's about 18% in total as far as what our cost would be. Next slide. This is the ters contribution. Um again you go back

026to 2014 2015 it was only 21.4%. Um it kind of leveled out here pretty much in 1819. It's pretty much been hovering around that. State provides a subsidy for that. So we get half of that amount back um in subsidy. No subsidy for insurance. So again, if you would have looked at health insurance back in 1415, it would have been probably a fraction of what this amount is. And now we're getting to the point where our health insurance is almost up where the P search is, but there's no there's no funding from the state for that. Next slide. So impact areas, we have Parch contributions 34%. Um obviously we had increase in personnel in 23 24 and 24 25 for special education instruction. And I went back to go look I started here in 21

027and I went back and looked to see I get emails each month about how many special education students we have. When I started in 21 we had 326 students which would have been 20% of enrollment. We currently have 380 students for 24% of the enrollment. So you're seeing a shift of more kids needing um special education services. the PERS contribution um like I said 34% for 2526 health insurance premium increase of 20% for 2425 one good thing is and if you remember um we right now before we even got a rate increase or doing our due diligence and we actually have um opportunities where we might get some uh some different analysis back or we might be able to decrease the percentage increase that we're looking at. So, we're going to wait for that information

028to get back from some other health insurance providers and uh then we'll see where we're at for that 25 26. But, we'll probably have more information on that. Probably I'm I'm hopeful that we start getting some of those numbers in in May. Um it's similar to what we do with workers comp. Again, you saw workers comp on there. I had an estimate of 115 grand. We won't know what that's going to be till until we get those quotes in. And then as future uh board dates are coming up here um at our next meeting here at the end of April I will go over the other expenses that we have. So those would be our professional services, property services and purchase services uh tuition transportation services go over all the supplies that we have all

029the software all curriculum and then capital and debt services. So that will be the remainder of the expenditures and then on May 14th um we will adopt a proposed budget just to make available for public inspection. It has to be done 30 days pri at least 30 days prior to your final adoption. So the way our meetings run it and would have only been 28 days if we would have wait till the end of May. So we'll do that May 14th. June 11th, we'll put public notice in favor of our intent to approve final budget on 62525 and then we'll adopt the final budget and set the tax levies and we'll also implement the homestead farmstead exclusion. And again, um right now the state is increasing that homestead farmstead exclusion. We should know around I

030think they typically send a letter to Dr. Pushnik and myself at May 1st with what those amounts are going to be. we'll know what our increase is going to be and then we'll be able to pass that on to anybody that has a homestead farmstead property. So that's a lot of our residents um their primary home they'll qualify for that. So that amount will increase. I think last year I think it was around $330. So that number will increase. So that'll be a good thing. Questions for Tom? Yeah. back. Well, I mentioned we would have a uh meeting afterwards. We will not reconvene tonight once we get out of here for this meeting and we have aformational meeting. That'll be the end of the night. There will be no reconvening for the rest of this

031meeting. Budget finance. Mr. Archie there will be a motion regular vision agenda approve the financial report as presented motion reging dispersements credit card statements for the month of 25 totaling 1.5 million and 1.14 million for payroll there be a motion regarding agenda renew a contract with CM regent solutions to provide life advant school district July 25th 1st 25 through June 3020 as presented. A motion on the regular voting agenda to approve the PSA health and welfare fund vision program agreement as presented. And motion regular duty and Katherine Nudge as drivers for long bus company for the 242 school year. Thank you Billy Brown. Mr. Jeffrey. Uh there be a motion on the regular voting agenda to advertise an an operable golf cart on municipal. Thank you. Community relations. This is Bush. Community relations. No, I

032have nothing. Curriculum instruction. Uh Dr. Move. The motion on the regular voting agenda to approve field trip requests for a 2425 school year as presented. Personnel. Mrs. Bush. There'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda to approve a letter of understanding between the Philsburg Oola area school district and Philsburg Oola Educational Support Professional for the purpose of clarifying and memorizing the mutual government concerning an employee starting rate of pay as presented. There'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda to hire Kimberly Podiski as a 4.5 kitchen helper at Philsburg Oola Middle School effective upon completion of required paperwork. There'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda to hire Carmela Jacobs as a special education instructional assistant autistic support at Philsburg Elementary School effective upon completion of paperwork. There'll be a motion on

033the regular voting agenda to transfer Shauna Thompson from 5.75 hour special education instructional assistant autistic support at Fsburg Oilola High School to a 5.75 hour special education instructional assistant learning support at Ool Mills Elementary School effective April 24th, 2025. There'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda to post a 5.75 hour special education instructional assistant autistic support position required state crisis management certification at Philsburg Oola High School posting effective April 11th, 2025. There'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda to hire Joseph Graio Jr. as a fivehour districtwide custodian at the Philsburg Oiola Middle School effective upon completion of paperwork. There'll be a motion at the regular voting agenda to accept the resignation of Noah Shaw as fivehour districtwide custodian at Philsburg Elementary effective April 3rd, 2025. There'll be a motion on the

034regular voting agenda to post a 5-hour district-wide custodian position at Philsburg Elementary School posting effective April 2nd, 2025. There'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda to accept the resignation for retirement purposes of Keith Mousar, an 8-hour custodian at Philsburg Oil Middle School effective July 7, 2025. There'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda to post the 8our custodian position at Philsburg Ool Middle School posting effective April 24th, 2025. Um motion under the voting agenda to approve a request form from an employee for unpaid days on March 31st and April 1st, 2025 exhaust due to exhausting all sick and personal days. There'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda to approve a request from an employee for unpaid day on March 26, 2025 due to exhausting all sick and personal days. There'll

035be a motion on your regular voting agenda to post the following summer school positions for the summer of 2025 posting effective April 24th, 2025. a coordinator, one and four teachers, two at high school and two at middle school. There'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda to post the following extended school year positions for the summer of 2025 posting effective April 24th, 2025 as listed in your agenda. There'll be a motion on your regular voting agenda to post the following title one K through5 reading program positions for the summer of 2025 posting effective April 24th 2025 seven teachers three substitute teachers and two special education instructional assistants I know that's Thank you. Uh, nothing under policy. Uh, student affairs and Mr. Bane is not here. There'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda

036to approve the following extracurricular positions for the 2425 school year. The motion on the regular voting agenda to hire the following extracurricular positions is listed below. Okay. Motion on the regular voting agenda to approve the following position for volunteers that's listed below for the 2425 school year. There'll be a motion on the regular voting agenda to approve the athletic events as presented. Nothing under technology. Uh other item Dan. All right. As we know we have uh Tim Bainy's uh was his resignation was approved in our last meeting and so we advertised um and the deadline was yesterday. So we received uh two applicants uh put their name in to be considered to fill Tim's seat until December. Uh we have an Amber Vestneski and we have a Mel Curtis. And so what administration is going

037to need is some guidance of what we want to do so that we're able to fill this position at our next meeting two weeks from now at our voting meeting. And so um couple options there can be um two options. One, we put two names on the agenda that night. The decisions made by by voting. Second is that you would inter actually interview the candidates. I know that the letters of interest were emailed out to the board there last evening. Um if there is interviews, they're just going to need to be held publicly. Uh and we'll need to have guidance on our so we can have that process in place uh for our voting meeting next time. So with that, we're just going to need some guidance on how you would like to proceed. We

038need to do that. And the other thing is once we adjourn, that is not a topic of discussion. Correct. Y underformational or exec session candidates cannot be discussed. It would have to be in a public forum. Um what does the current bylaws does our bylaws have any policies behind it for how we go about this in the past or treating this in the past? Is that what the bylaws state? That's what we did the interview. I understand that's what you did. I'm asking we were doing our from that. Give me one second here. We'll put policies as your maybe some other thoughts there. Anything else you guys want to talk about? Kelly, maybe you could give us the weather forecast away from this. That is going to be rain, rain, rain. Little snow. Little snow

039till Sunday. Snow till Sunday. Yeah. So, um, softball, that game that was supposed to be Friday is probably going to be next Tuesday organization. and softball game Saturday at Juniata. Probably it won't be rescheduled cuz we're just running out of league games Juna. So our next available play date probably. Yeah, I don't think While we're waiting on the protocol what to do, I will tell you this. Since I've been here and you were here, Melvin Curus was on this board once and quit for two reasons. And when he quit, two other board members quit as well. One reason was over the fifth grade and the other reason was over his kid not getting to be the ad. So once a quitter, always a quitter. So as far as I'm concerned, he's out of the question.

040I don't think we want to get into evaluating people. Why not? We've already had it. We've already placed to do it. Your policy is silent on whether that the process as far as how to appoint somebody. You can just appoint them. Go. Should we discuss it tonight? So, yeah. Why can't we discuss it in the exact session if we can't discuss it openly? That'll be up to the attorney whether it can be discussed in an open forum like this before we adjourn. That was the question back and forth there. Yes. Discussion on who would fill the vacancy would be a public forum. Basically speaking about their character or the candidates that would be in the public forum if you choose to do the interviews and and do that deliberation. including um like reviewing their I

041guess their letters of interest would all have to be if there's discussion on it. Yes. If you were reading it, you don't have to read it out loud. Okay. But if we were going to discuss anything on there, we would have to do it right here right now. Correct. Okay. Um I guess my question is this the only thing they're going to provide us um you know resume wise um qualification wise or is there going to be something further we can ask for them? So that would be like in as part of like an interview process. So I reached out to Carlson here when before we put it out and are we you know is it simply just a letter stating I'm interested or is it a resume and the guidance was just to do

042a letter. Okay. All right. Um, can we I guess here would here be the place to say that maybe we should ask um if the board would agree maybe a resume or qualification list that would you know help us consider them rather than um you know any I guess any other thing other than personal knowledge of the person. I think you could probably request that. I think the letters pretty much covered all of that for both of them. They both leave a little bit of history. No. Are those letters available to the public? They absolutely can be. Okay. I think if we're going to have public this is the forum for everything. I do believe we probably should have those um available to the public if this is going to be um you know this

043is obviously representing them. So I I do believe the public should know who who put their name forth to represent them. What we could do um uh board's desire we can when we put on for the discussion on the voting agenda we would post both of their letter of interest on there. Right. So the goal is basically we have to decide if we if the board would like to interview or would like to present two names on the agenda and vote on it because once this meeting is over the discussion is over. Correct. Yes. That's your option right now is do you want to do the interview or interview before when we when we interviewed Nancy we interviewed Tony Curillo. We we interviewed for the position before. So, let's get him in here and talk

044to him. I say moving forward, I'd like to see, you know, board members decide what they want to do. As a public servant, I do believe that they should have the opportunity to present in front of the public because they're going to be making some very, very important decisions, taxes, budget, that type of stuff. So, don't think it should be just us. You know, we shouldn't be the only ones reading these letters. I do believe they should have the opportunity to stand in front of us and answer questions if to the public. Is there anybody who is opposed to uh having interview set up? Would it be awkward though if they're both here and well it's going to go one way or the other interview? One person to step out during the interview and then

045you could have them flip-flop. Yeah. Same thing we did when we interviewed for Dan. It's the same someone stood in the hall. We interviewed one and then they met and that was it. So we'll set up evening interviews or you can do it during the meeting even. I think it should be very I think everything that should be should be public. Um if it's this is all public it has to be discussed publicly. They're going to represent the public. Um if they're I think if they're really interested in that they should be they should be present. Any desire to tie it in maybe this isn't possible to tie it into the next board meeting. Well, I think that was the the re even for our discussion tonight. If that's the direction the board wants to

046go, that'll definitely give we have enough time in the next two weeks to make it happen during the board meeting. The alternative would be a special meeting. Still a public meeting, but it'll be a special meeting. So, the interviews would be held on the 23rd. Yeah. Next board meeting. Yes. Yeah. Um timewise as far as the board you know we're scheduled at 7. Is there a conflict if anybody you know if they wanted to start the board wanted to start earlier for the interviews? We're still working on patients. I think seven I think seven to keep it uniform. Um I think if we do anything differently that would um people are regularly tuning into these meetings. I think keeping it You you all decide as I'm fine with that. The interview process I think should

047be short and sweet. Just a quick presentation. The same thing they put in the newspaper if they were running for office. They get you know quick two minutes, five minutes I think would be even too much. Two minutes if they want to present us with the with the um with the resume or anything else I think that would be sufficient. So I don't think anything more than two minutes should really be anything more. Good. Appreciate your input. We will hold those on the 23rd. Be advertised at 7:00. Be part of the part of our next building meeting. We'll have it on as an agenda item and go from there. Can we do that at the beginning and then they can sit with the board or is that too soon? Um you would you could do

048it towards the beginning. It wouldn't be the very first thing but towards the beginning. Yes. And then they could come with the board then after they have been appointed and swearing. Right. Okay. And is that a typical swearing in by the secretary? Uh be by notary. Yes. Any other questions on board candidates and which direction you want to go? All right. Appreciate it. Uh, any other business? Motion to adjourn. A motion. Second and a second to adjourn. Meetings.

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