001Good evening and welcome all to the Spring Grove area school meeting for Monday, May 4th. Earth. At this time, we're going to do a salute to the flag and a moment of our silence to our armed services. To the flag of the United States of America and to it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with All right. Well, thank you all for attending. Everyone at home as well. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to do our favorite roll call. >> Mr. Baringer. >> Bomb here. Ramsey >> here. Ritz Shear Stein Waters >> here. >> White >> here. >> Wilson. >> All right. Uh Michael Ritz and Nicole Wilson is out for personal reasons. Uh we did have an executive session on personnel. Moving on, uh we'll do the formal and informal request to address the board
002if anyone like to come up and have anything to say. Okay, seeing none, we'll move on. Uh, correspondence have anything for >> I don't have anything for correspondence. The only thing I do have, if you, uh, did not get a chance to, uh, if you are going to graduation, uh, please sign up. That's my correspondence. Um district department reports we have transportation service and nutrition service department. Uh both were uh submitted for your reading pleasure. Uh we do have uh regular voting on personnel and Karen would you like to take care of that? >> Thank you Mr. White. Personnel board actions requested retirement. Uh, number one, Megan Rogers, Springrove of Intermediate School Building Secretary. Uh, letter B, resignation. Nicole Harlacker, high school academic team advisor and assistant mock trial advisor. Letter C, teacher appointment, approval
003of the following teacher appointment for the 2627 school year. Number one, Jacob Green, sixth grade English language arts teacher at the intermediate school. Letter D, appointments. approval of the following appointments. Uh we have Lana Trump at the ESC. Uh administrative assistant accounts payable and Katherine Barry, New Salem second shift custodian. Uh letter E, transfer approval of the following transfer. Amber Buschett, New Salem. Uh her new appointment will be at New Salem instructional assistance special ed emotional support. Letter F, classified substitutes, approval of the following substitutes uh for the 2526 school year as listed. Temporary maintenance support Denver curr approval for the following individual pending receipt of clearances and completed act 168 and letter H uncompensated leave. Sierra Schaefer, Paradise Elementary Instructional Assistance, Special Education, Autistic Support. Uh, so moved on personnel board actions. >> Any
004questions >> this time? Roll call vote. >> Archinger Sheer, >> yes. >> Ramsey Bomb, yes. >> Waters, yes. Stein White. >> Yes. >> Thank you everyone for your vote. And before we move on, I'm going to turn it over to Deafany here. >> I believe Jacob is here, right? Jacob, stand up and give us a little hello. Welcome to Spring Grove School District. We're excited to have you. >> Did you bring anyone with you? >> Very nice to meet you, Chief. Thank you. and thank you for joining uh Spring Grove as a rocket. All right. Uh we have adjournment of our voting meeting. >> So moved. >> All in favor? >> Okay. Uh now we have our director study foreman forman. Um we'll call that to order. And again any formal and informal request request
005to address the board. Okay. Seeing none we move on uh to business and finance committee. So we have budget and finance. Jessica. >> Thank you very much Mr. White. And I am going to turn it over to Mr. Zap and Mrs. Lepo. >> Thank you Jessica. So, uh, tonight, um, on our board calendar, this will be our last, um, presentation for the 2627, uh, budget. Uh, tonight, Mrs. Lleo will be leading the, uh, discussion. And Jen, if you're ready, I'm going to turn it over to you. >> Thank you, Mark. Um, for tonight's presentation, I'm going to, um, again review the parameters of the 2627 budget. I'm going to give a brief status update on the 2526 budget, review the adoption schedule, and then also go over the nutrition services budget. Both of these budgets
006will be on for final approve approval next board meeting on May 18th. Um so just starting out with the budget parameters for the 26 20 27 school year. U these were reviewed very early in the budget process. Um these were again um ma mainly all of these were known increases that we received um probably back all the way back in November. Um but again what we what this budget does is it maintains all of our current instructional and services programs. Um we had a salary and benefits increase of 3.2% and that was um based on the um contract. Our pasers rate came in right around 33.59% which is pretty much leveling out now. We were currently at 34%. We did see an increase of 11% in healthcare which we have talked about um in great
007detail over the last couple meetings as well. Um the special education contracted services increase came from the LIU as they started to restructure their programs. Um charter school enrollments and tuition rates. Again, we actually saw a reduction here. Um or I should say a cost avoidance is really all it is. Um but they um made some changes. They being the um legislative and we've seen um again some cost avoidance in our tuition rate. Uh but our enrollment continues to be very um consistent around 190 students per year enrolled in cyber charter schools. The York Learning Center um again this is something we have discussed um over our budget and finance committee meetings. Um the York Learning Center is as you heard several times in need of major renovations. Um our base rate to them was
00867,250. for next year that will go up to 100,000 and then they have a tiered structure based on the number of kids that are there and then of course your program costs from the IU. Our transportation contract for this year for from 2526 to 2627 is actually at a 0% increase. Just a reminder that I think we're in one we have two years left of that contract and our debt service remained level at 5.1 million. Uh again, a couple of the um expenditure side of the of the budget that we continue to work on is the evaluation um of all department um budgets and sitebased budgets and really working towards the historical spending patterns. We have some ongoing salary savings generated for retirements and staffing transitions and we're seeing that of course we saw that
009this year and um we continue continue to see it for next year as well. We had made changes to our overtime um policies and procedures um generating some salary savings there as well. We made reductions to the substitutes um serving the ESC. Um the board voted for the discontinuation of summer school and summer acquisition for next year. Um we continued to evaluate software um in the business office and we eliminated some redundancy in our software packages between um business and HR and then whenever possible we've been utilizing capital project funds and PCC do PCC oh my gosh I'm sorry PCCD funds um where we have um projects or initiatives that may be a one-time expense um that we can utilize those funds on the revenue side of the budget. Um, again, this is just a
010reminder of act one. The index, the base index was 3.5, Springrove's enhanced index was 4.7. The budget being presented on May 18th has a 0% increase. Um, so that will maintain the millage rate at 25.4071 mills. Um, as far as local revenue goes and um, with our real estate, we are just including um, the natural growth that we've been seeing in our assessed values. We have been historically seeing about a 1% growth in our assessed values year-toear. Um, so we do have um, that worked into the budget. Um the current budget does include the most recent county update of from a April 13th. Um and I do expect to have one more um county update in May that we may be able to adjust revenue slightly higher again. Um that generates about $120,000 just for
011in the natural growth of the assessment changes. Um, also on the revenue side, local revenue side, we continue to see growth in our earned income tax. Um, this past year again or current year into next year, we're looking at like about a 5%. I think we saw a little bit higher last year. Um, so it did increase the earned income tax by 250,000 that line item. Um, interest earnings. Um, as much as we keep hearing that the rates were going to drop and um, we've heard it the last couple years, we've been actually holding steady and able to take advant advantage of um, interest rates averaging about three and a half%. I feel like that's going to be a good number again for next year. So, I was able to increase interest earnings up up
012by 250,000 as well. The other um big line item in local revenue is our tuition from other LEAs. Um the students that are currently um in our district from West York or Southern or anyone else that we contract with. We worked with Michelle's office and the returning students um and got a better calculation on the tuition from those returning students and that amount was adjusted up by 200,000 as well. So, we did see um about a 900,000 increase in our local revenue. Then, as far as the state goes, um again reviewed before and I'll cover it in the next slide. The governor's proposal for basic ed and special ed and also ready to learn have all been included in the budget. And for the federal side, there's been no um increase. In fact, we've actually
013seen a slight decrease in in revenue. So the again just a reminder this is the BEF increase based on the governor's proposal would be an extra 74,000 in BEF an additional 132,000 in special ed and then with the ready tolearn this is the adequacy piece um that would be an additional $42,000. Um just a reminder, we did include um the sale the sale of the ESC building for the 2627 budget. So there is um 500,000 in there for the sale of that building. And again, that's just a onetime expense. Oh, I'm sorry, onetime revenue. Apologize. Okay, so those were the budget parameters for the 2627 budget. This is a snapshot of the projections for 2526. Um, again, you can see the beginning fund balance there, the revenue and expenses. We are actually looking at a
014surplus of around 2 million. We've been seeing like a 2 million to 2 and a.5 million all year. Um, again, a majority of that was um based on salaries in this um cyber charter school reform. Um we've had a number of changes in salary positions that again um uh contributed to some savings. We went through and did a complete audit of our salary budget and found some duplications and also of course we've not been fully staffed all year and we continue to struggle to find pair of professionals where we have a number of vacancies. So that is the pro projected outlook for the 2526 school year and how we're going to um end the year. So we will be adding um again around $2 million to our fund balance at the end of 2526. Uh
015for the final budget, the 2627 budget. Again, when we talk about the beginning fund balance here, that amount is again that's going to have the 200 the 2.1 that I projected on the prior screen added added into it. But that is our unassigned fund balance. The assigned fund balance there again is that 7.5 million um and how it's contributed there is in the blue the blue um corner. So again, we have revenues at about 89,500,000 and our expenses are just over 90 million. Currently, we're looking at a deficit of 784,000. And then you can see the reflection of the fund balance um for the May 18th meeting. The this will pretty much be final numbers. I have a few um adjustments to make um as we hire new staff and some of that gets finalized.
016And we just got our homestead farmstead number finalized as of May 1st and I have not made those adjustments to the budget yet. So again, between now and May 18th, there will be some slight adjust adjustments, but nothing nothing of significance. I'm going to pause here again. I just reminder that we're looking for a budget approval of May 18th for the general fund. And before I move into food service, does anyone have questions on the general fund budget? >> I have a couple. Um, one, if you could pop back to the last slide, can I know that we have talked about this many times, but just so I understand the the capital projects the the capital 3 million in capital projects is does that include the maintenance building or no? Because that's a different that's
017like a totally different number. >> Correct. or like coming from a different >> Yeah, these assigned amounts, they've been assigned like this for years and years and we can always make adjustments to those assigned amounts. um you know and we don't need to call it capital projects but if at you know >> um so the concern that I see um is the $90 million number and I was curious how because I don't remember you're have to remind me what are there large what creates the five million I know that salary was a number insurance increase like you showed a list of things as like increases and I was having a difficult time seeing all of those to equal five million 90 million here this >> you mean from going from 85 right >> yeah you
018mean from gojection of 85 >> last year for this year >> and then I see like a $5 million increase in our expenses >> projected for next year and that is a large number and And so real questions are, do we see this as a normalization? Like are we expecting an additional $5 million increase in 2728? That's would be the next number, right? 2728. And if so that concern like that worries me especially if we're looking at I understand why we're saying 0% tax increase but if we're now hit with another situation we now and we can kind of buffer that because of the surplus we had this year but if we now then then need to make up $5 million two years from now then we're back to where we were last year like
019okay now we need to increase taxes by 5% which none of no one wants to do to offset that. Do we need to have a small increase now to help? >> Well, one thing I've had a slide here because there's two ways to look at this. This is looking at it um based on budget to projection. If you look at it from like a budgetto budget perspective, it's for the on the expenditure side, it's it's like 2% increase or less. Um the salary budget alone was a million dollar increase or like 900,000, but we're actually under like that $85 million. We're under almost a million in our salaries from the from before. So again, the salary budget is if we're fully staffed, um which we haven't been all year. Um and it's based on a
020lot of positions that we don't know where they're going to come in at. So there is a swing there in the salary budget alone. Um but it it as far as the people go um we did a full audit on it and we know the number of positions that we have in the district and that's all that's in there. It's just we don't know one if the vacancies will be filled and two what they will be hired at. Um so there's a big swing there in the salary piece of it. Um again I I wish I had the budget to budget so we can look at it from that standpoint but we have been coming in um slightly under on the expenditure side and that's what we're continually working on towards towards improving. So, um,
021but to to answer your question at this point in time based on like we're fortunate enough I know a lot of the districts in York County are are not seeing um any type of revenue growth that we are um we're fortunate especially with the EIT um that we aren't seeing declining enrollment or declining they are seeing declining enrollment as well but they're seeing also declining revenue which we're not seeing. Um, so at this point in time, I don't see a need in the near future to have to look at a 5% increase. I think truly, and I've said it before, that the increase we received last year is putting us in a financial position that we are this year. >> Take a question because I think I understand what he's saying and I don't know
022that I got the answer out of it. I apologize. That $90 million includes what we are going to spend on the maintenance building that we are pulling out. It does not. >> No. >> So you think that the revenues you believe projecting that the increased revenues next year will end the chances of us being fully fund like fully staffed and actually spending is unlikely. and those that increase in revenues and what ends up being the actual budget for next year. Those two things will hopefully be largely in line moving into >> that is what we've been working that's the last several years. I mean, we're trying to make it as accurate as possible, but unfortunately, a special ed kid moves into the district and it can blow our budget by $100,000 right there. Um, so
023there's a lot of mandated costs that I can't project and budget for and plan for, but >> I don't have a crystal ball. I I just when I saw the $5 million, I'm like, if we keep >> five million, six million every year, that's a lot. >> Yeah. And it is again it's that's based on our projections that 85 million I I wish I had the budget number in front of me. I could grab my computer but like I said from budget to budget is very it's under 3%. It I think it's like closer to two or even one. >> And did that make sense to everyone is what Mrs. Lea was referring to. So um this slide right before this that or slide right here the 85 million that's our actual expenses right now.
024So what you're looking at at the 90 million is the budgeted. So, if I'm if I'm budgeting, let's just say for example, a um water bottle at a dollar and it comes in at 85 cents. We're showing the 85 cents here, but the budget is actually a dollar. So, it's 15 cents more on the budget. So, um as Jen mentioned, you know, those actual numbers, we feel really comfortable. We're going to be lower. It's just very difficult at this point or example for our teaching staff to say, "I need an item next year. Give me a quote." So, we're getting a quote, but you know that it's it's it's I don't want to use the word it's a little bit higher. We know so that it's it's not 100% accurate like this number is. So,
025but to answer your question, we feel really really comfortable as far as expense year-over-year >> and the last couple of years, I know that we continue to tighten that number, which >> correct. >> Yeah. And just on record, I want that Jen and Mark did a lot of work and we asked for a lot as a board this year, but a lot of work as I've come into this role to actually make sure that our expenses were in line, but we came in under here. Um, they did a really nice job of giving a lot of information reports. So, I also want to make sure that we acknowledge that. >> But I can I I'm sorry because I have my computer here now. I wanted to just point out one of the largest expenses if
026you look at even projection or based on budget is our contract with the IU there increases and what we're looking at like that increase alone was $1.3 million. So I have one more smaller much much smaller um I and I don't know the right place to do this to make a recommendation or a ch a change um but I would like to this is connecting to the last board meeting that we had. I'd like to fully fund mock trial at least this year and then have actual conversations about how do we define equity because it seemed like that was a word that was regularly used but no one could give a real definition for what that meant. Um, and maybe I don't know what that happens in budget and finance meetings, but like have an
027actual meeting about this is what equity is. This is how we apply equity within our district across all classes and courses, but to correct one spot and like not have that conversation, I don't that to me feels I don't like how that is. And then also in here it does actually say fully fund to our programs and we're from what I heard we're not. Now I don't know if there are other areas in which we aren't. That was the only thing that was made aware to us. So that I would also love to hear um if we're altering altering some other courses or some other programs. But >> I think that the statement said maintain current instructional and service programs. >> That's the word but we're not right. Like if we're cutting at least one
028course mock trials, >> we're not cutting a the course, >> but the how how we're funding it. We're not we're not cutting $8,000. That wasn't that's was what did we talk about to >> that's not that's still m the program itself is being maintained. The only thing we asked them to reduce was the travel expense, the overnight piece, not the not the buses, the hotel expenses. >> So these are the conversations. I am I am happy to have these conversations but I don't I don't I don't feel comfortable doing that now because if you want me to start having that conversation we can have that conversation but I don't think anybody signed up for it right now to talk about equity like we send I'll give one quick example like within the music department we
029allow students the opportunity to try out for district orchestra district choir state orchestra state choir we fund to send a teacher along as a chaperone to that is that equity like that's not necessary for the course to run but that is a thing that we offer them but we never had that conversation about whether that's okay or not >> and we're and I know we've been having them internally we can't make like we're trying to face like there's so many conversations about music I mean if we got to look at their budget K through 12 it's a big budget >> and we're I would just as a board if I'm if I this is the budget that I'm going to approve like I would rather fund mock trial fully as we were prior to this
030year and then have those conversations about what makes it unequitable with specifically in mock trial. I've not been a part of this conversation is that I come to every budget and finance meeting um and are we applying it how do we define equity are we applying it equally across every department um I don't know >> and I think we explained the way we came up with mock trial is we looked at it based on DECA which is also a co-curricular activity >> so Mr. Barer, we do have um another meeting with um with a few of us and um and the advisors for uh for mock trial um scheduled for this week. So those discussions are going to continue and um we're looking at uh some phasing in approach for that u during that conversations.
031But um um one of those items that um we had talked about over the past couple days and even um uh this afternoon was um defining what all those what those items mean. What does co-curricular? What does a club? What does student activities? What all those things mean and and making sure that we're equitable across you know all those phases. So, >> okay. Will will that information be provided to after that meeting to the board as to what the results were or >> Yes, we can provide that information to the board >> and Eric to what you uh to travel on the back of your heels. I absolutely agree. Uh and this might be my last meeting here when I say this. Everyone of our, you know, curriculum, co-curriculum, uh clubs, sports needs looked at
032because as much as I love sports, academics is where it's at. And I feel we put more money and time and effort into sports and we cut back on our academics. In four years, is that child going to go play a college sport? That's great. But that child is going to learn more from academics and take with them and use that in life lessons. So somewhere along the line I I think we as a community or or you know it it just got perceived that our sports should be number one in a school which which is great. I mean I think every school should have a sport and be able to play but the money that we take and I mean look at our football program and you know we saw Jeff LS for the
033whole sports for God's sakes. I mean a lot of that could be funded through our academics. So, I I honestly believe, look, in the last couple years, we we as a board got more information about our budget than we ever had, and that is a huge kudos to Jen and Mark for bringing this forth to us. We've never received this much information. So moving forward I believe all of us should you know have the information to look at every line item of every you know class club sport and where you know how how to make it fair you know and that's the bottom line and I and I think that in those conversations I very much want and like I think Mark and Jen do an awesome job um about you know keeping our books
034tight and everything. But when it comes to programmatic decisions, like the academic programmatic decisions, I you've heard me say this before. I don't think that's their job. Like for them to make a determination that again this old dead horse buying a brand new $100,000 truck and cutting and find and funding mock trial. They're trying to figure out if we can afford those things and that's great. But to to determine what is the best use of our funds within the district, that's DAP's job. That's, you know, the superintendent's job. That's those kind of decisions should be done there because we are primarily an academic institution. And I just cutting academic funding, especially when it comes to the high achieving students, all students, but high achieving students. I never want to I hate seeing that. I'd much
035rather have all of those cuts happen other places. And so that's kind of our mat especially when it comes I mean as we were told mock trial we've won districts like 16 years in a row or something to kneecap that I'm like what again equity we have a maybe the best football York county I don't know if we have the best one not you know not equity across district you know across the county it's like what we've decided we said that we really want this So that >> do we pay meals and and and uh motel for other curriculums? >> Not for not for uh curriculum um organizations. No, like um for or even for clubs and stuff. >> And that $8,000 was for mostly for >> it. It was um >> meals and and
036motel or hotels, whatever. It was approximately, I think, $7,200 for um hotel registration or hotel fees and then approximately $800 for food. And as was shared last time, I'm all for having a discussion about how if if there is an alternate way to fund that and there is a an easy way for that group to do it, that's a that's another discussion. But from what we heard is that there really isn't a place for them to do that. And you know, we received more information that they were having struggles as to where and how, which avenues to take to fund and to throw them there without funding it and then going like just figure this thing out. I feel like that's unfair as opposed to let's figure this thing out. Let's, you know, give them
037a clear direction. Give them a clear avenue to, you know, figure out some sort of funding. And then we go, hey, now that you guys know what you're doing, now we make a cut that we think is, you know, that both parties are feel like is is value. But right now, we're just cutting it and >> tossing them in ore and going, you know, good luck. >> But there must be ways for fundraising because in your fundraising account in the high school, we have 188 million or thousand dollars in there. So clubs can or people can go out and do fun. >> It's not a club. That's part of the problem. >> People can raise money. There's no reason they can't go out and raise money just like the rest of the people do. >>
038Apparently, they can't do it as I mean that's we had that conversation two weeks ago is that like things I don't know all of that. I don't know that whole side, but it made it sound like >> there are ways and there are avenues that must be taken to follow the right procedures and they were on I don't know that's what we >> I'd like to know what them procedures are because I I I can't understand why the kids or the group can't go out and do sell subs or whatever like everybody else does. I don't understand that. >> And and that's a conversation but it's also a conversation this is a like this is a curricular. This is not a club. >> And Christian had been involved in these conversations. It wasn't Mark and
039Jen saying like he's had the curriculum side of the conversation. I don't want to put him on the spot if he doesn't want to come up and speak, but I mean there's a lot of other background information on it. So the nutrition service bud budget um for the 2526 school year. Again, this is just looking at like where we're going to end the year. The beginning fund balance uh at 2526 was 1.5 million. Um projecting revenues of about 3 million 90,000 and expenditures of 3.1 million. So we're looking at just a short um def deficit of of about $36,000 or yeah, I'm sorry, $36,000. So, um, again, looking very close to what we're projecting for revenue and expenditures and pretty much a balanced budget there for nutrition services. Um, for next year, um, this is
040just kind of a breakdown. Local revenue of about 1 million, state revenue of about a half a million, and federal revenue of about 1.5. Um, the expenditure breakdown there, um, salary and benefits 1 point almost 1.6 6 million technical services 20,000 purchase services 57,000 and supplies which also includes food at 7 or 1.7 million. So currently we're looking at revenues um of 3.1 and expenditures of um 3.4. So the overall deficit is coming in right now for nutrition services at 309,000. at the end of next year if all this plays out which we did an audit of course on the salary and benefits for food service and there's definitely some adjustments we'll make before the May 18th meeting which will bring that deficit down further um they're ending their fund balance even if it was
041the 309,000 at 1.2 million um which is over the 3month operating supply amount that the state um says is all we can have in the fund. So we are not recommending any type of increase for meal lunch or for meal prices next year. And then this is just a statement. Again I as I mentioned there might be some changes to the expenditure that will bring that 3 um 3.4 million down a little bit. So the overall deficit might be lower than the 309,000. Um those numbers will be finalized of course before May 18th. just a few um slight adjustments there as well on the food service side. Um but again the the the point um or the point is that we won't be raising um meal prices again for next year and that will also
042have an adoption before May 18th. So any other um questions either for the general uh fund budget or nutrition services myself the one question for clarity sake this will help me process was the high school's budget reduced going into this year or is that mock trial money being spent elsewhere this >> No the whole high school budget was reduced And again that was looking at historical trends. The only reason mock trial was being looked at was because we wanted to make again going back to the fairness and aligning it with DECA which is the only other um co-curricular that most aligns with mock trial where there's a course and then there's the competition piece. >> Hopefully we can have those conversations sometime. Thank you, John. >> Mrs. Watersf, can I just continue? >> Yes, please.
043>> Okay, so next on the list there, um, we have the renewal of the school depositories. And as we annually do at this time of the year, uh we ask the board to uh renew the appointments of those depositories. They are listed um and they are um they are beginning uh the terms are beginning July 1 and you can see that they are for one-year terms. Any questions on our school depositories? Okay. turn it over to um to Jen again and Hope for our um our recommendation for our uh substitute teacher service STS. So before you you have our uh memorandum with recommendation to consider um STS for contract service for our substitutes. Included in there is a brief staffing proposal from STS um as well as some uh information that Jen provided on uh
044cost proposals and cost comparisons specifically for current sub rates at other school districts as well as um current fill rates for uh districts that STS covers. Um and then also included is a data for cost analysis that um shows the substitute and PDM rates and what the the cost would be with that markup from STS. Um and then I think in addition on the last page of that or part of that packet are the pros and cons to not only using the substitute vendor but also for in-house management with a dedicated substitute coordinator. So we're available if you guys have questions. >> How how long would this contract be? If I'm not mistaken, I believe right now it would be for a year, right? To see how >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> And then re-evaluate
045after that time to determine if it's something we want to continue with. >> I I just have a couple comments. Um we in the last two years or even longer than that, we've talked a lot about substitutes needing filled. I mean, that has been a big conversation. It comes up repeatedly. But the other one that comes up quite often is our test scores. We keep saying, "How are we going to get the test scores up? What's wrong? What are we doing wrong? Where's the test scores?" So, I'm just wondering if there might be some correlation here. Um, you know, I just I during the the meeting that we had the curric or the budget meeting, we talked about uh the substitute rates and you had a chart and you showed Dallas Town's substitute bill rate
046and Dallas Town was in the high 90%. I don't think that's in our board stuff for tonight, but it was extremely high. And I I just think maybe and maybe we don't have to do this before this vote is taken on this thing, but I really believe we need to look and see what is Dallas Town doing and how much does it cost Dallas Town to do what they're doing because they're paying a little bit more. And I I recognize that. Is it $50,000 a year more? I mean, what is it? But if we're always talking about test scores, maybe that's something we need to look at because if we can get high quality subs in here and maybe we can even pull back in teachers that retired from our district and they know our
047district, maybe it's worth putting the money, a little more money into substitutes and filling those spots and getting to the right people in there. And I really think that's something that not just the business office needs to look at, but I think we should be really looking to our, you know, superintendent, assistant superintendent, building secretaries, whatever, and saying if we can get good quality, high uh substitutes in there. What's the value of that for the educational? What are we going to get? Can we raise the test scores? I think there could be some correlation here. And I don't think it's just a case of talking about money. I think it's a case of talking about having the proper teachers in the building so the building can run so the classes can run and we aren't
048taking teachers and taking them out of other positions or doubling up class sizes. So I'm I'm asking and if the board supports it other people need to speak up too because I'm just one member. I think we should be looking what's Dallas Town doing because we keep talking about well our secretary should be nice to the the the subs when they come in and we should thank them. We should all but we got to look at the money part of it too. It's not just being nice to substitutes they show up. Money is important. So I think we should look into that. Uh, I don't know it has to be before the vote on this, but I think it's something we should be looking. What does it cost to get ourselves and fill those subs
049and do something like Dallas Town does? >> And and Doug, I was looking at Dallas Town's 150 and they're at a almost 97% >> bill rate. And then we have Central's at 83% and they pay 129. But hope you do you want to explain you're missing an important piece here going through this we can obtain more retired teachers because they will not be paid through the district and the benefits of using STS. So do you want to explain? So, one, yeah, one big pro to using an outside resource for substitutes is all of those retired substitutes that are collecting their peasers and um would otherwise come sub for us. Every year we have to get approval from the state for the retired substitutes to be able to sub for Springrove. with STS, they would be
050able to work through STS and it would not affect their peasers. It would not affect their ability to collect their retirement pay. They would be able to substitute through that vendor for Spring Grove. And I think that while I can't say would they 100% come back, I think it would be definitely be an incentive to a lot of the retired substitutes. In addition, when we have teachers or pair professionals that retire, if they say, "Hey, I want to come back and sub, they have a requisite like 90 days, I believe, that they have to wait before they can even come back to substitute." With this, they could go right to that substitute vendor and the day after they retired, they could start subbing for us. And we do get a lot that want to do
051want to sub right away. we just we can't bring them in because of that requisite waiting period and we have to get that approval every year from uh the state. In addition, when we do have retired subs, we can't offer them positions right away. Like they have to be the last resort for filling vacancies because they're retirees. They have to get last preference. with this vendor, we wouldn't have that. They could pick up a job the same as anybody else. They wouldn't have to wait until um second choice or whatever. It would go to them the same as it would go to a regular substitute, if that makes sense. just concerned not just not retirees but just in general uh comparing what do you pay a subsidy compared to what I don't know what the
052rate is at ruers but I remember a while back you know maybe a year ago they were $15 an hour just to work at ruers so it's not like these substitutes are making big bucks and they're doing a much higher level job than what they would be doing in some other jobs so I think we should consider it it's worth a presentation uh what it would what would it bosses to do something like Dallas Town because they're they're just so much above everybody else. >> And Mr. Stein, I um I did find out from um Dallas Town, as you saw in the cost comparison there, they do pay their retired teachers $200. So, it's $50 over the daily sub rate. Um but STS did confirm that 21% of their filled positions are from retirees. So,
053they do have a a a good percentage that of retirees subbing. >> Yeah. Plus the fact that they are offered benefits as well which we as a district cannot offer and during the summer uh they can collect unemployment. So it it's a winwin the whole way around and we're ain't looking at it for a year. I mean at the end of the year if it doesn't work for Spring Grove we can re-evaluate it. But if this helps us to obtain more substitutes, I mean, for goodness sakes, we're at 67%. This is a prime opportunity. And Karen, you're you're a retired >> teacher. Anything could be better than the 67%. >> Right. Exactly. >> And I would like to see like maybe halfway through the year um either Hope or Daphne to give us just a
054quick update on how it's going before we have to make the decision again at the end of next year. >> Yeah. I'm going to piggy back on what Karen says. That's that's what I was going to say is and I would like for us to at least have some clear expectations before we go into it. Um just as like what what do we expect to happen after we have it? Are we expecting 90% or 85%. I did see that like they they're saying 85% to us, but that list shows that only four of nine districts are really kind of hitting that number and so trying to how do we determine whether it's meeting our expectations? I am also for increasing subpay, but this service will love if that happens because >> then our percentage will
055go up and they'll claim credit for it even though maybe they're just coming because they're getting paid more. So that'll be tricky to find correlation, you know, causation correlation there. But I would love to see a presentation in six months and then after a year to determine whether or not it was what we were hoping it was. >> Thank you. Yeah, I just have one um followup regarding um a question that Mr. Ramsey had several times too. Um the Red Rover software can allow a window of opportunity for selected substitutes to have first right of passage or whatever to to be able to pick up those jobs first. That is possible. So >> I think too the Dr. Patrick meeting with a substitute here recently and some things came to our light that we didn't
056know was. I think we're going to see a lot of good stuff come out of that. I think that's going to be a very positive thing. So I I'm looking forward to that. So thank you. >> What the program doing the >> substitute program period? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I'm all for that. But I'm just saying I think we're going to I think in light of what has come to our light through a substitute speaking out, I think we can make our program look a whole lot better and more productive for them, people, because we found there's a lot of substitutes very frustrated with the way they just didn't have the materials. And we're going to fix that. >> Yeah. And and let's all be clear, I mean, we we are a uh you know,
057a close-knit community, and as much as I would love to have someone in house and have that personalization there, we're at we're at the point where we can't and due to the fact this is why we can't get a lot of retirees to come in because they won't they can't get paid and then it's going to upset their benefits. And this is a win-win where now we can obtain more substitutes and they're, you know, paid by a different company. So that that's a huge piece right there. And, you know, then you got to if that person's on vacation or medical leave or something like that, then who who fills in? So this is a uh rock solid program. Plus, if I'm correct, Hope, as you were saying, we will have a representative stay with us
058for that year to guide us through and >> Yeah. Yes, we will. So, we would have the first year we'd have the same dedicated representative um on that team. So, that would be helpful. But to your point, and even to Doug's point, I think um this is a win-win all around for us financially and otherwise getting it filled. But then in 6 months, um, it'll be a good idea to Karen and Eric's point to have a presentation and then determine what's Dallas doing and what should we do because we likely should look to increase some of those, especially for our retired teachers. >> Thank you, Jen. Thank you, Hope. Um, next we have a Sapphire extension and I'll turn it over to Mr. Rank. >> Thank you, Mr. Zap. Um so last fall the board
059had asked that we do an evaluation of um our student information system and specifically Skyward. Um so uh I've gone as far as I can with that evaluation myself talking with some other districts. Um right now we're seeing and and these things kind of go in cycles. I would say right now there appears to be a little bit of a a swing to Sapphire. if you look at what other districts are going to or making changes to. Um, but I wouldn't read too much into that. Uh, what I found is basically there's parody between both systems and without a full-blown evaluation where we're bringing in stakeholders and setting up demos um, with all the users of that system to fully evaluate it um, and then do a cost comparison based on what those evaluations say.
060Um, that's going to take a lot of time. We're coming up on a renewal. Um, and I would like to propose that we look at extending through a multi-year agreement extending our renewal with Sapphire at the conclusion of that we that renewal. What? And I know that the memo says three years, but I'd like the the flexibility of saying, well, Sapphire only say they give us two years of of of no cost increase or they give us four years of no cost increase. that we go that route rather than just pigeon pigeon holeing us into a guaranteed three-year. Um but regardless at the conclusion of that time, whatever that time period is, that we would conduct that full-blown um evaluation of Sapphire versus Skyward at that point and come back with a with a more
061uh robust recommendation than what I would currently have by myself. the stakeholders or I assume that the deeper stakeholder look would be administrators, teachers, students, parents because Sapphire is their student information system and so that everybody's touching that. Um >> absolutely. Uh nurses, counselors, uh special education. Yeah. >> Um and shouldn't we be doing that what you just said? and and maybe maybe I misheard maybe misspoke I'm not sure but conducting that indepth like research into comparing those two will happen at the conclusion of that contract won't we be right back where we are right now with we don't have enough time to look into it before we our contract is up >> no I would want to have that done when this contract is up so at that >> the process of this contract
062comparing it okay correct Yeah, thanks for asking for clarification. If there are no other questions or concerns, and I will bring back to you that multi-year agreement from Sapphire after we have those conversations, >> Mr. Ink, I think you're still up with the uh technology and equipment refresh. >> All right. Thank you. The the other item is yeah, we're up for uh refreshing our uh teacher laptops. Um at the same time, um I'm providing you with the the highest buyback quote that I received. The reason I'm bringing this to you now in May, uh even though this purchase would not happen till July 1st, is because that buyback quote on that uh price of $320 per laptop is only good until the end of September. So, working backwards for us to have all that work
063done, I need to get them in as early as I can this summer so that we have time to to prepare them and and get our teachers transitioned so that all those used ones are ready to go by the end of September. So, um that's again why I repeat myself why I'm bringing it to you now. Uh Apple will not invoice us till July 1st. So, we do not have to worry about committing before um the funds are available in next year's budget. There any questions um about either of those proposals? >> How old are the laptops we have now? >> Pardon me. >> How old are the laptops that we have? >> Four years. >> They were purchased in 2021 um later in 2021, but essentially they're four-year-old laptops. Thank you. >> Thank you,
064Mr. Inc. Uh Dr. Lewake for uh contract renewals and for SAP services. I'll turn it over to you. >> Thank you. Good evening. Um a memo has been prepared to explain the 2627 contract renewal for SAP services. So I didn't know if there was any questions. That's excellent. Thank you. >> Thank you, Dr. Lewig. Seeing none, uh then I will turn it over to Mr. Ramsey. >> We have the memorandum for buildings and grounds. um talking about the access path, the YMCA project, neighboring property for maintenance building, maintenance facility, and the swimming. I feel like this stuff's pretty self-explanatory. So, does anybody have any questions? >> I have a question maybe more for Mr. Zap, but it we talked previously that it looked like at least online that the zoning had not indicated us. It
065was indicating the YMCA. Did we ever figure out why the online records at least the tax records showed that >> it is a mistake with the county and they are fixing it. Thank you for that. >> Wonderful. Thank you. >> So, uh Mark, just to follow up and and to Ben, uh we had talked about the access road and which is starting to pick up more uh traction there. Yep. Uh what what is going on with the grant? >> So I just received word um actually today and I was talking to Dr. Kurpatre. We did not receive um um any any so uh we are working together Dr. Kurpatre and myself at other opportunities other grants and we'll keep the board apprised of um as we progress. Well, my only thing is I mean I
066I understand we have it as you know part of our bond which you know the access road needs to be done but you know we have construction equipment on site now. So is it any possibility that they could you know reook at it rebid it you know because they're not moving equipment. So we can my suggestion would then be that we uh we would value engineer what we currently have the bid uh that came from Lobar. Um I don't see them I mean we I don't see I'm I don't want to speak for Lobar. I don't see them lowering their cost just because of of materials going down. I think uh it would probably be the opposite in with fuel prices and other items going up. So, I think we would have to value engineer
067it and take a look at what items we can remove from that road if we want to get it to a um to a a rebid. Uh we can also put bid contracts out on the street and have other contractors bid it if that's the will of the board. We can um definitely have a uh bud or buildings and grounds meeting and discuss that as well if we want to either um put put those bid specs out on the street or if we want Lobar to uh help us value engineer it. Um I'll I'll take any questions or comments. >> Well, thinking that yeah, definitely should be brought up with buildings and grounds, but you know, I'm I'm a true believer. you know, we have a good relationship with Lobar, but you know, in my
068end of my business, we always, you know, obtain three to four bids, and it wouldn't hurt to put it out there on the street to get some extra bids on that project. >> But again, that that's something we can >> Would you like to have a a buildings and grounds? Um, >> which we should because I I know again, >> it it's it's come down to Yes. We we made it 20 years without any incidents up there. But I'm telling you that one incident can cost this district and and keep in mind we are taxpayers. Who you suing? We're suing we the people. You know, everyone pays. But, you know, as a as one accident could cost us over a million dollars. So, is it worth to take that, you know, chance or do we
069spend a million dollars and put a road in and finally be done with it and have a piece of mind to, you know, our police department, DMS to fire, you know, moving, you know, now that we're putting the freezers back there, now we're going to have more truck traffic running through right through the parking lot of of kids. So yes, as nine of us, we seriously need to look at different avenues of redoing that access road. And so yeah, if Ben, you know, you want to set something up and we can do that, that'd be great. >> According to Mr. Styles's um report, we have a um a future buildings and grounds committee meeting here for that 25% of the uh of the project. And the last meeting that we had uh with EI Associates,
070they were looking at the end of May, beginning of June. I'll get a firmer time frame from them. And if we can combine that meeting with um a buildings and grounds committee where we can discuss the road. Is that okay, Mr. Ramsey? >> So, I'm I'm happy to have the conversation. Um but I'm going to do something that we don't do very often that I wish we would do more of. And I'm going to ask for a show of hands of how many people are interested in a road if we're not getting some grant money to go along with it because I'm pretty sure we lost that one six to three. So where I don't disagree with you, Mr. Right. If we don't have board that has an appetite for it, um I would like
071to see and if we want to integrate into that buildings and grounds meeting what some of the other grant stuff and things are because if we don't have an appetite for five people, I don't feel like having work get done whether I agree with it or not. I agree with you on the road. But how many people are interested in talking about a road unless there's grant money? So I would before before that said I I remember when we were talking about the road we were 90 believing that we needed a road. So like no one who voted no on that was anti-road. The concern was the cost of the road. And I remember being in those meetings there were multiple options and I just we we picked the most expensive one and I just
072was not for the most expensive one. So, I'm pro road, but if it means a one because it was getting up there. It was a $ 1.5 million road that then no, I don't have the appetite for the five 1.5, but that doesn't mean I'm not don't have an appetite for a road. I do have an appetite for a road. We Eric, I I I agree. I mean, it did get out of hand. We We don't need all these lights. We didn't need walkway paths. We need an an easy access simple road. That's it. Very simple. >> We want to integrate into the meeting. Are there five people that want to see us talk about the road and understand the relationship between grants with it? >> Oh, the next meeting >> and I'm open to
073what Mark said about, you know, opening it up to bids and see what's out there to see if we could get something a little more reasonable. But the problem with the bid process is >> what's the big clim I know we had a point when bids things were really high as is construction looking for work right now I Ronnie you always seem to have a fuel for that is it a good time right now >> it's time right now the problem we got is we have an engineering service that that works for schools and they just overdo everything I mean you look at that parking area they're putting down there for the YMCA. There's no reason in the world they need an 18inch silk pot sock out along that road for that for that sidewalk.
074And they surely don't need to fence the whole thing in because the fence is open at so many places. They they just back there, you know, we're trying to do that uh greenhouse pad and they ran a 2-in copper line out to that to that ball field just in case he wanted to water something. But it's a it's not a 2in copper. It's not a 2-in plastic. It's a 2in copper. It's they just overkill everything and it drives the cost up. >> And you are correct. And I there are I will not say the names and I've dealt with them for 30 years of that reason. And it c it just floores me that we cannot because they see as a public, you know, entity and they're like, "Oh, >> schools are worse. schools are
075they they give schools a bigger screw and then they give municipalities. >> Yeah, that's exactly right because they they know, oh, it's taxpayers money. We we we can get it. The schools have the money, which is such bull crap. So, >> yeah, we we should reach out for other bids and >> and and I want to make two notes here that to your point, Mr. Stein, yes, there's um some there's some concern in the construction market depending on what you're in. So, um I think there's that and price-wise. Secondarily, I think we also need to note to your point earlier, Mr. White, um, not only is it about, you know, lawsuits and things like that, but we care about safety. So, I care more about people's, students, law enforcement, everybody's safety. So, I think that's
076one of our wise here, too, that should be on record, >> right? That that should be our number one priority. in you know the bottom line folks we would not too long ago we had u you know a mulch fire and and so imagine this if school was in they had tankers using our water system and they blocked that whole high school. So now imagine school's in, we have that fire and there's no access to get out and none of the buses emergency the safety of our students was was done. >> So that next meeting can we talk about grant possibilities and we will talk to yes and about how we're going to try and repric it out >> next please. >> All right. Management committee Mr. is you have a memorandum of understanding with
077the Northern York Regional uh Police Department. It's for uh for a one year, I believe, or is it two years? >> Pretty well self-explanatory. Something they do, they do that every two years. So it it spells it all out there. There's a roughly a 4% increase I guess every year the way it sounds and I can't answer them. So or can but So here's what I'm going to say about that. As I say every year, it's a pro and a con. I mean we have a good great relationship with Chief Lash. We have u you know uh officers in the school out of the schools. Uh do they have a little more uh management and what they can and can't do? Yes. But I say the same thing every year. We have a lot of
078other schools that have their own SRPs and I think you know we should reach out and and get other pricing and what they can and cannot do. How many hours a day are they at the school roughly? Seven, eight. How many hours a day are they at the school? >> Yeah. So, the typical um >> It's in It's like 3,000 hours. >> Yeah. But I mean, but how many hours every day? >> It's >> Yeah. They start around 7 and they end after dismissal. They leave around 2:30 or 2:40, you know, PM. >> Then that the the contract includes um the the the hour. So if at the end of the if if we need them for graduation or for sporting events or especially if we or if we have other activities where we know
079there's going to be a conflict um um those hours are I see through our and and maybe this is just paying their regular hours but I see in our checklist extra like checks sent out to regional police to cover football game to cover and it I always so is that a part of this contract or is it over above and above and beyond? >> Correct. So like for graduation you'll see here we'll have um at least four officers um clothe you know in uniform at least four officers and we typically do that for those types of events. Uh we'll do that for um um larger wrestling events, especially if there's a conflict. But um typically most of those are included in this contract. But like I said, if it's above and beyond, I'm open to
080whatever. I have no I don't know what they can and cannot do, but if enough people are interested in going through the bidding process for whatever that means, I'm I'm >> well going to improve our >> I I just think sometimes that uh it wouldn't hurt to have some presentations with other entities coming in. >> You like that? >> Can I just jump in here quick? So there's three basically three options school districts can look at. One is a school resource officer which you have had with Northern Regional. Another option is uh school employees uh authorized as school police officers. Some school districts have those. And then within that category, there's questions about what authorities do you want them to have? And there's a wide range of that. We can save that discussion if we
081get in into that. So that's a school employee model, school police department. And then the third category are contracting with private providers. Southwestern does that. They contract with a private company for armed uh guards. So you could request proposals from private vendors if you are interested in private services. Uh again the the other option is employees serving as school police officers. if you can find and attract and keep them, they would come on your payroll as school employees. So, there's basically three options. Uh some schools do a combination of both. They might have a school resource officer and some in-house uh school police services. Uh some have some in-house school police and they also contract with private providers. So, it's all uh outlined by the school code depending on what the board may be interested
082in looking at for the future. I feel very comfortable with Northern Regional. I just I don't think we want to get in the police business. I think we need to stick with education. Uh I struggle with getting into medical business. I now we're talking about getting in the police business. I I I just feel very comfortable with Northern Regional. >> And when you say get in the police business, that's what we would need to do. We would be responsible for their uniforms, their training, their all their equipment, all everything. like you they would be school employees but we would have to train them do all the things and all the pay for everything that goes with that. I'm not in the I'm with you. But the Gareth gave a three options. First one being regional,
083last one being and and sure maybe that would be worth looking in, but maybe not. This is outside of my realm of expertise. >> I don't quite understand. It comes out to 445 days a year. If we only have two gods, that's only 360 days. What? Why do we have them extra? I don't if we're paying extra time. But you say we pay anytime they're not at school during school hours we pay for. >> Yeah. If they're going if they were going to the soccer game after school or going to whatever like they're those count those hours that they they get deducted from that total hours. So there's lots of days when you come. >> Oh, okay. I don't pay an extra for that. That's >> no it's it comes from that we have a
084total number of 3,000 whatever hours to start >> another 45 games. Okay, that's where we >> I would not be interested in a presentation. I think we have access to an extremely high quality police department through Northern York County Regional. So I don't think we need to assess anything else. But again, I don't know if we want to take a show of hands, but I'd like to just continue here. We just got a donation from the gentleman that helped us find our superintendent because of how impressed he was with our SRO officer and I will 100% agree with what you just said. Um there are things that I'm just not interested in trying to save a buck on and this is one of them. So if we want to do the straw poll, I would
085also like to move on. >> I think so. I think so too. I think these guys are professionals. I think for liability reason the training they have when they get into incidents. I mean we they've got a lot of officers on call instantly. I don't know how these private guys would be if they would have an in-house shooter how many they would have and come in. I I think it would be I don't like spending the money either, but it's leaving that that department I think would be a mistake. Truly do. >> I revoke my desire. All right, moving on. Uh, >> so I'll take over that one, Mr. White. >> What's that? >> I'll take over the next one. The PSBA delegate assembly. As you see there in the um in the memo, it
086is the association's annual business meeting where uh they review reports, consider bylaws and legislative platform updates uh and they uh receive leadership election results. Our our school board is invited to appoint two voting delegates uh to represent the district at the in-person event on November 7th. Um if you are interested uh please let uh Mrs. Sterner or myself know um in the next few weeks. Any questions on the uh delegate assembly opportunity? >> It's been what two years since we attended that. Um Karen, didn't you used to do that? >> I went years ago. Yeah. I don't think anybody's lately. >> You what? >> Nobody's gone lately. >> And when is it, Mark? >> November 7th. >> You don't have to let us know now. Just um think about it and we're allowed to. >>
087Thank you. >> Okay, moving on. We have uh uh personnel if anyone needs an executive session or anything on that please say so and then moving on to program committee Mr. Baringer. >> Steve if there's anything you wanted to share >> just it's uh again the curriculum memo is the same uh list of courses that you received last month with the links to uh the work that was done by the teachers. Um the only difference today is we have administrators here if you have questions or comments that they might be able to help you with. Um they're here today. Um our goal would be to bring it forward uh next time to approve so that we can do the work we need to do this summer. I am going to beat my same dead horse.
088I will keep doing this. Um and I wrote it down so I don't get distracted. Every year, new and revised curriculum are presented to the board, and every year, many of the curriculum presented are incoherent. When a single unit claims to address 20 or more standards, that tells us the document was built by cataloging standards rather than designing for mastery. Effective curriculum design requires prioritizing standards, sequencing them deliberately, and aligning assessments to them. What's being presented doesn't reflect that process and improving it as written would give us the appearance of rigor without the substance. What I see are standards being listed and not taught and not a clear understanding of depth versus breadth. Curriculum is not a pacing guide or a checklist and shows an accountability gap. How is mastery for each standard assessed? For
089any unit claiming to cover more than five to six standards, I would love to see if someone could show me which are the priority standards, how they're assessed, and how the assessment data will be used to determine whether students achieve mastery. I continue to believe that we need a curriculum, someone dedicated to curriculum and instruction in our district. And this is clear to me as to why we need that. Thank you, Eric. I'm going to add a little bit I will vote yes on this right now. I am going to vote no. Not that I don't think that curriculum is revised a new curriculum, I'm all for it, but without and unless a clear corrective action plan can be put in place and not a we're going to fix it later because that's what I've
090been told for multiple years in a row and it we continue to get this. It's not being fixed. Only thing that confuses me and I don't understand any of it is is we keep adding all these new courses. Do we ever get a list of the courses we drop? Do we drop any courses? We we typically we do. It's not like you say like they don't all run every year. So based on the student course requests and and Mr. Ahart has explained this in previously based on that is what they used to build the schedule. So there are lots of courses that are on the have been on the list previously that well I'm going to use the word retired or put on pause until a later date if they were to come back. >>
091Correct. later we should take some off. I mean, my god, you're adding 20 every year. >> It's they're not 20 brand new. Some of them are are revisions of other ones or renamed. Sometimes, courses get combined with other things or they get renamed. So, in effect, they do do come off the list if if the name was changed or if it was rewritten as something else. So, they don't all live like that forever. It is a fluid kind of process and we try to bring those changes to you every year to keep you up to date and make sure you're aware. Um it's not a random process. >> Deon, we're not having we're not having a class or a curriculum or something going and it it out of out of 400 kids in your senior
092class, only 10 of them are taking that class and we're designating a teacher to teach that class. >> We don't just teach them because they're on the list. You have to have a process to have students required. The number of students required for sure. >> Does it ever get to a point where it's so too overwhelmed of all the extra courses? I mean it >> again >> old school. You know what? What happened to just teaching the basics and offering some classes? We're not a college. This is a public high school. When kids want to go to college, they could take all the electives they want. It's not really about a being a college. It's more about getting trying to create courses that teachers and students are excited about. So there teachers are always looking
093to do something new, do something different to get students excited about whatever it is related to their subject. So teachers are always looking for that. And this back to our previous discussion, the classes that get filled up are the classes that have teachers that go out and get the kids excited about recruit for those classes and that's how that works. So some of them are end up being more popular and more um and fill up and they stick around longer and others fizzle out. >> Steve, can we see some reporting on that? Like I mean I'd be really interested especially with block scheduling just to see what classes have what enrollments and everything. I mean to Rod's point and I'm I'm new so I don't know and I don't have kids in the high school
094yet. So it'd be really helpful to see and I know you know even talking to Mr. Zap last year like I mean I know we had like yoga classes and like 20 gym classes which seemed which seemed crazy. So could we get some information? >> We could absolutely is my question to you would be is when do you want that information? Um, we presented that last year. I believe we had that those reports last year. Um, do you want to see what it was for this year that's done or do you want the information for the new school year once we get started? That's it's really just a matter of when you want it, we can get it. >> I think it would be helpful to see the interest for next year. So, whenever you
095know that makes sense. I don't it's not extremely urgent. So, next year as after that completed >> once the schedule's complete, we can put that together for you. That' be >> great. Thank you. Yes. Okay. Any other questions? >> All right. The second thing on there is um an agreement with Keystone Red Rock JobCore. Um this is a an agreement we have with this uh this group. Um every once in a while we have a student um who needs an alternative pathway to graduation. Um we have had some students uh work with this group before um but we did not have an agreement with them. So, the only way that they could um get involved with them is literally drop out of high school and then go uh work with this group and um get
096the training they get there. Um we're trying to improve that process. We have an agreement with them. Um it doesn't cost us anything. It doesn't cost the students anything, but we agree to work with this uh group if there are any students, and again, this is a rare occurrence, but if there are any students that are interested that we partner with them, they do their work. uh that that they're required to do. Um but they also get graduation credit from us so they don't have to drop out and they get to graduate and they get the training at the same time. So it's it's just another partnership. Um and in the rare occurrence that we have another student that wants to do it, um we have a way for them to do it without having
097to drop out. >> Thank you, Steve. And moving on to athletics, Mrs. Bomb. Uh we have a request from the athletic um department to send uh it's for the athletic directors association executive council meeting July 6 through the 8th and the best part is it's zero cost to the district because mileage and accommodations are funded through PSA. >> Wonderful. Okay. We have any uh planning items to be considered? If not, then we'll do All in favor. >> Is that? >> Yes. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> All right, everyone out in the audience, thank you so much for attending tonight's meeting. and everyone at home, thank you for listening and watching.