001Good evening. Welcome to the Springboard Area School Board meeting. Today is April 28th. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge alce to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The Springford Board of School Directors believes the community has the right to bring before the board issues and concerns they may have about items on the agenda or about items in general which affect the district or their children. Because of this belief and philosophy, the board will schedule a time at the beginning and conclusion of every meeting to have an opportunity for community members to share their concerns with the board. At the start of the meeting, members
002from the public may comment on agenda items only. The school board will move through the meeting agenda. Then at the end, when prompted, there will be a time for public comment. This meeting is being filmed to be broadcast on community cable channels and online. Individuals intending to make public comments should be aware that they are being filmed. Speakers will be asked to state their name in the area in which you reside before your comment. Thank you. Hello. Good evening. Welcome, Miss Crew. Could we please have a roll call? Yes. In person this evening we have Mr. Lackey, Mrs. Weine Garden, Mrs. Westwood, Mrs. Herman's, Mrs. Dearorf, Mr. Jackson, Dr. Wright, and on Zoom, we have Mrs. Goldsmith. Thank you. And Mrs. Goldsmith, uh, just as I was attempting to do for Miss Westwood last week,
003I will do my best to defer to you. And, uh, if you have any questions, feel free to jump in. Thank you. Okay. As far as announcements go, we did hold an exec session previous to the start of this meeting to discuss personnel matters. Mr. Rizzo, do you have anything? No, I just want to say thank you to Dr. Murray for sitting in the seat last week when I fearlessly trying to get back here from Tennessee. So, thanks. Thank you. Okay, so we'll move on to public comment. This is on agenda items only. If anyone wishes to speak, please approach a podium with your name, township of residence, as well as the agenda item for which you are speaking. And also, as a reminder, please sign your name on the sign-in sheet. Seeing as though
004no one is approaching the podium, we'll move on to our presentation. However, I will say that Miss Stein did uh notify us this morning that she was not going to be um available today. So, we will be postponing this presentation until next month when we can um celebrate her. Correct. That'll happen at the work session. Thank you. Yep. Okay. So, moving on to board and committee reports. We'll start with the MCIU. Dr. Wright, thank you. I will have the report for next week or next meeting. I don't have the minutes yet from it. Thank you, Mrs. Wgarten. The Western Montgomery Career and Technology Center. Yes, thank you. Uh, the Western Montgomery Career and Technology Center, JOCC, met on April 7th. Uh, Mr. David Livingood met with Gilbert Architects and they will provide WMCTC with a
005feasibility study without charge and Mr. Living Good has given them until the end of the year to complete that task. Marbar Elementary School had the carpentry class students build a wall to paint a mural. And the students enjoyed those that experience of an off-site job. And the principal was very pleased with their work. It's always nice to hear about our uh Western Tech students getting out and making a difference in our schools and the community. So, that was a very cool project to see and hear about. Um, we are now able to receive dual credit through Pen College in welding and electrical. Um, news has been coming in um about our the tariffs indicating that this could cause a rise in pricing on supplies. So, you realize the uh tech center uses a lot of
006things like car uh copper, hair supplies, electrical supplies, wood and such. So we are as always watching our spending very closely and trying to keep get ahead of any impact that that might have. And as usual this time of year applications to join the Western Montgomery Career and Technical Center uh applications were closed on March 15th. So we had, let me pull these numbers for you. We had 286 applications. 220 students were accepted. And as you know, the typical problem we have each year is that we get way more applications than seats available. So approximately um 64 students are weight listed at this time. And to give you perspective, of those students, 80 students from Springford uh were accepted. So that's always very very exciting. And make it short and sweet. Our April 30th is
007the Noctti performance day. May 1st is their field day and May 5th is our next Joocc meeting at 700 p.m. Any questions? If not, that concludes the report. No thank you. Uh, no questions. Miss Mrs. Goldmith, as you sit on the JC, I just wanted to see if you had any comment or questions. I did not. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Um, I will make one comment. I did have the opportunity to uh go to the Western Center and uh attend the uh senior co-op banquet. So, for those that don't know, uh if you attend the Western Montgomery Center in your senior year, depending on grades, attendance, and some other criteria, you have the opportunity to go actually out into the workforce for half a day. and um specialize in in your area and earn real
008money. And so uh there was a celebratory lunch for all the seniors uh along with their employers. And I just want to again thank all the local employers who support um the Western Center and provide our students these opportunities. And congratulations to all the seniors for a successful co-op. Okay, with that said, we'll move on to Mrs. Westwood, the legislative committee. Good evening. Um the legislative committee met on April 2nd at 6 PM virtually. Um we were joined by Brandon Langanger from the MCIU's director of innovation and strategic partnerships. Um he shared an overview of a new student advocacy initiative called Voices for Education. This program began just this past January, so only a couple months old. Um students have had the opportunity to interact with legislators, a county commissioner, and a school superintendent already
009this spring. The group will be taking their learning and applying it during a visit to the capitol on June 3rd. Um, Springford is not part of this yet, but it's going to expand to other school districts next year. So, more more to come on that. Um, the group also discussed several key legislative topics. Um, and I'll I know Dr. Wright was here too at the legislative breakfast, so she might want to add some things, but we talked about cyber charter reform, which has been a frequent topic that we've talked about at this table and I know that I've brought up. Um, I'll get into that in just a second. Um, we also talked about um there being momentum on both sides of the aisle to make some changes to that and implement the cap this
010year. The cap is $8,000 as proposed right now. Um, this is something that we should keep messaging on the topic. Cyber charter costs us uh millions of dollars per year just in our own district. So something definitely top of mind. Um the next I will say I'll talk about the legislative breakfast briefly and then I'll mention the next meeting. During the meeting, we also talked about um unf unfunded mandates, um concerns around title three, Medicaid, -ate, and esser extensions. Um some of these topics came up during the legislative breakfast which was held on Friday. Um during that breakfast, there were a number of different presentations and it was a great format. It went through um federal funding, state funding, and like some of the local concerns, and there were different superintendents and legislators that spoke
011at that meeting. Um, I know one of the things that I took away was just some of the things that we can work collectively on across the aisles to have stronger student outcomes. So, like cyber charter among other things. Um, I didn't know Dr. Wright if you wanted to add anything since you were also at the breakfast. Right. No, you you did a very good job there. I think one of the things that um to touch to expand on what you were saying is that when we're looking at things like our budget here in Springford that the cost of things going up the the those money that we pay for cyber charter schools that's where if you want your taxes not to go up that's where you need to do is to vote um and
012and pressure your legislators. Doesn't matter what party those in Harrisburg because cyber charter schools do not have a brickandmortar building they are they we are only allowed to keep capital funds of like eight was it 8 thou or 8% of our budget can that we can hold on to like a savings they have millions that they're keeping. This is your taxpayer money and that it what we could do with that money with our budget here if we could get a piece of that back. There's a place for cyber charter and there's a place for charter but this is ridiculous what the amount of money that they are getting for our students for it costs them. They're making money handover fist. So yeah maybe maybe to that point the legislative panel we were joined um by
013which was um bipartisan was um representative Matt Bradford, Representative Donna Sheron and Representative Joe Sesi and they and they did talk about that. So just the idea that you know school choice remains important but the idea of keeping the cost reasonable for our taxpayers and tied to student outcome. So um in any case the next meeting I'm toggling between screens. Um the next meeting will be May 7th at 6 o'clock. Any other questions or comments? No. Okay. Thank you Miss Westwood. Uh moving on. Mrs. Goldmith, PSBA. Sure. Just a couple things. one PSBA is offering a course and it's actually a multi- uh asynchronous course that runs the first cohort runs from June 16th through August about foundational AI and for school leaders and it's aimed at helping uh school leaders to learn how to
014use AI to enhance decision making and administrative processes. In addition, we've talked a lot about advocacy day on May 13th. Registration for that does close this Friday. Uh so if you are planning to go, please register by this Friday. And it's that time of year where PSBA input so any board members can if they desire provide some feedback in terms of bylaws, amendments, and a legislative platform. Those all have to be done relatively shortly. So if you are interested, it's at the end of June, June 27th, please let me know and we will make sure to uh get those proposals to PSBA. That's it. Thank you. Thank you, Mrs. Goldsmith. And, um, I think right around that time. Uh, so there's, you know, multiple steps. First is giving the feedback on those bylaws, but then
015we'll be looking for some, uh, board members to potentially attend the delegate assembly. I think last year it was, I forget who it was, Heidi, Mrs. Westwood, and myself. But if anyone else has an interest, it's always interesting to hear from board directors across the state. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? All right. Moving on, Mr. Lackey, Spring City American Legion. Spring City American Legion baseball met on Thursday, March 27th. Uh there are a few items I want to bring back to the board. Uh league tryyouts took place on March 29th and 30th with higher turnout than last year. As a result, both junior and senior teams have been filled. Um the new outfield signs were put up in Ram Stadium on the morning of April 2nd. So that's exciting. Um, as far
016as field maintenance, the Legion is looking into replacing the protective barrier on top of the outfield wall, which has degraded over time. More to come on that in the future. A quick reminder, the Legion is hosting a regional tournament on July 18th to the 22nd at Ram Stadium. This tournament will be a total of 14 games taking place over a span of five days. The next meeting will be on Thursday, May 22nd. Uh, and that concludes my update. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions from Mr. Lackey? Okay, Mr. Rizzo. Yes, thank you. Just a reminder, um, and I believe it was already mentioned, but the 5K is going to be hosted, uh, the Spring Ford Ed Foundation 5K is going to be hosted on Friday the 16th on the campus of the 10th through 12th
017grade center. Um, this year promises to be larger even than last year's. Uh, the 5K supports two amazing events, which is why I'm mentioning it. Um, held annually, which is the impact awards and the decision day. So, uh, coming up next Wednesday, the 5K supports spring forward's annual impact awards held each spring, which is an opportunity for seniors to nominate any spring forward employee that has had an impact on their lives. Uh, this year's impact awards ceremony is being held next Wednesday, May 7th. And then decision day, which is an incredibly amazing opportunity. Um, the educational foundation again supports this. That's going to be held this Thursday, May 1st. Decision Day is open to all graduating seniors along with their parents to celebrate this important milestone. Whether they are entering the workforce, serving our country,
018or attending a two or four-year college, we look forward to celebrating their futures and the decisions that they make as they move forward. And my last announcement is we have one retiree on the agenda, Clyde Cring, head custodian of Oaks Elementary School with 17 years of service. We wish him well. Thank you very much. Thank you. Any questions or comments? Okay, Mr. Fitzgerald, solicitor's report. Uh yes, and good evening. Um just an update. Um since we met last Tuesday, there was a pretty significant uh federal court case that has implications for for spring forward involving u a series of executive orders that have been coming down over the last several months. And this was the specific executive order and and dear colleague letter surrounding uh what was deemed uh illegal DEI practices in schools and
019adherence to title six. Um, for those that have been following along, um, there was an first the order, then there was the dear colleague letter, and then there was within the last 3 weeks a commitment notice that went out to all the state education agencies and potentially to all the local education agencies to have to commit to not um uh practicing an illegal DEI and uh not violating Title 6. Well, on Thursday, a federal court in New Hampshire enjoined the US Department of Education from implementing or enforcing those uh regulations. Um the plaintiff in the case, the most prominent plaintiff was the National Education Association. Um and their argument really had little to do with the substance of of what the um the government was proposing. It was essentially that they they got the procedures
020wrong, that the the initiatives were vague, that they didn't follow the uh administrative procedures act, and there were some first amendment violations. The court sided with the National Education Association, and in doing so, they directed that any school district that has an affiliate of the National Education Association um would be then part of this injunction. In other words, the government can't force any of their rules and regs in those schools. Well, Springford has the uh Springford Education Association, which is affiliated with the Pennsylvania State Education Association, which is affiliated with the National Education Association. So, like most districts in this county, um there the injunction now takes effect for for Springford and at least for the foreseeable future. Any questions or comments? Right. Thank you for the update, Mr. Fitzgerald. Okay, so moving on to
021the voting portion of our meeting. As the public knows, we discussed these uh items last week at our work session. We had a quite a long meeting last week, so I don't know that we'll have any outstanding questions, but if we do, please feel free to raise them. So, section five minutes A and B. Do I have a motion? So, moved. Is there a second? Second. Any questions or comments? All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? The motion. Uh, Mrs. Goldsmith. Mrs. Goldsmith, what is your vote? I Sorry. No worries. Okay. So, that motion carries 81. I'm sorry. I apologize. So, no, Mr. Dr. Chararma is not here. I cannot do math today. So in 8 0, excuse me. Um, moving on, we'll do personnel letters A through P. I'll take a moment
022to see if you want to separate anything. Do I have a motion? Oh, no. Go ahead. Motion first. Okay. Do I have a motion? So move. A second. Second. any questions or discussion? Uh yeah, I just want to step in very quickly and just wish Dr. Collier well. Um 10th through 12th grade uh building principal. He will be moving on. Um he's on here for resignation. And then I also um want to acknowledge that Lori Bickard has been gone for a few months now and we at the superintendent are very happy to welcome Kristen Schmidt as a replacement for Lori Bickard both as the superintendent secretary but also as the board secretary which will take place soon. She is not here tonight but we welcome her. She's going to be a a wonderful addition to
023our team. Thank you. Great. Thank you, Mr. Rizzo. Any other questions or comments? Okay. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. 80. Moving on to finance section seven. Uh Mrs. Herman, do you want to get uh Yes. Mrs. Goldmith, my apologies. What is your vote? It's I. Thank you. 8 Z. Moving on to section. Keep me honest, Miss Grew. Moving on to section seven, finance, letters A through I. Is there a motion? Move. A second. Second. Questions and discussion? Okay. All those in favor say I. I. I. Mrs. Goldsmith I. Okay. Any opposed? Motion carries. 8 Z. Moving on to property letters A through F. Can we separate E, please? Sure. Happy to separate E. Any others? Can we separate B? B is in boy. Okay. Any others? Okay. So, we're
024looking at section 8 property letters A, C, D, and F. Do I have a motion? Is there a second? Second. Questions and discussion. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Mrs. Goldsmith. I. Motion carries. 8 0. Moving on to section 8, letter B. Do I have a motion? So move. Is there a second? Second questions or discussion? I was just wondering maybe very briefly if um Mr. Pelgrren could just speak to this um considering the number of communications and conversations we've had about the door situation in our schools. Yes. So, so what this is is basically we looked at some of our interior secondary doors that are located when you walk into the first primary set of doors. We're looking at creating security for them doors similar to some of our other schools.
025Thank you. Okay. Is there any other comments? Okay. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Mrs. So that was a no for Mr. Jackson. Mrs. Goldsmith, what is your vote? I. Okay. Motion carries 71. Moving on to letter E. The playground installation at Spring City Elementary. Do I have a motion? So move. A second. Questions and discussion. Uh yes. So, um I my question about this regarding this $223,000 uh purchase of Spring City equipment is that I had asked and I and the the board had asked for the cost that it would be for just to bring it up so that it was safe and repair it and so that we could plan um decide make the decision whether to do that or not. that information was not provided to the board and
026so therefore not I did not see a cost for just bringing it up to standards. I saw information about it but not a cost. Was that in the board memo? There was information in the board memo about it. I I didn't I didn't get a sense that there was a board directive to have somebody come in and give us an estimate on that. Um we provided the report as as per the request for the uh for the board. Um if there was an interest in doing that but I think what came out of that report was um given the age of it any repairs would have just been pushing that cost down the road. Right. But I mean if we want that if the board wants that we can right we can delay this and
027do that. But I think we need to move forward. Right. Well, and and the the question what I saw from the report was what I was looking for was as opposed to making this purchase at this time for $223,000 to see if because right now with our budget as we had discussed last week, uh we are, you know, at over four or over 5% talking about potentially referendums and we need to Yep. That came up at the last it was mentioned at the at the table. It's an option. It is, right? It's an option. And we have I want to clarify, there's referendum exception and there's referendum and they're two very different. We're way past referendum at this point, right? We voted um though to allow the we voted back several months to allow referendum
028exceptions to go through if we wanted to. So anyway, I'm saying that as you know last week that we are too far apart from where we need to get to that 4%. I I my understanding when we left the meeting last week was that we were going to find out the cost that it would be just for the safety and you know to and that so that we could look at this later on. Um I did not get that. I saw the report that was provided by the company the audit that was provided by the company that we would be buying the playground equipment from. So, this has nothing to do with the fact that I want Spring City to have everything that they can have. I want all of our students to have all
029of that. I just uh feel at this time that that we don't have all the information that we need so that I could vote on this. So, I I want to clarify when you say we don't have all the information we need so you can vote, you mean I don't have all the information you need to be able to make a vote. I have all the information I need to be able to make a vote. And to be clear, I just want to clarify one thing for the public. when the words being used that we voted in January to allow for referendum exceptions to be used. No, no, no, no, no. We followed the act one timeline as required and applied for referendum accions. There has been no conversation yet in terms of the levers
030that we will pull for the budget which is on deck for finance in in May to have that that more robust discussion um given we were just on the um cusp of Mr. Fin's proposed final budget last week. So, I just want to clarify for the community. Um, I feel I have enough to vote. I'm not going to speak for the rest of the people on the board, but we it was mentioned at the discussion of finance last week's meeting here that it that there was that there was that a possibility always of referendum referendum exception and I will own the fact that I am only voting for myself and I don't feel that I have the information needed. However, there were there was at the meeting last week a desire by more than just
031me to have that additional information. I do not feel that it was provided enough for me to make the vote. Um so therefore that is where I stand. I would have liked to have seen the number that it would have cost and I did not see that. So, if I may, um, I guess find it interesting that we cherrypick. We're concerned about the budget, but we cherrypick items. If we were really concerned about the budget, the only items we would be approving are required operating cost. So, I respect your position on this, Dr. Wright. However, Mr. Mr. Dan is not a consultant of an ADA consultant that could come in and define what is needed from a safety perspective. That is why we have hired that company to do that. I mean, we can sit
032here and peel the DNA of $233,000, which is a sub, you know, substantial amount of money, but so is every other thing we paid for here. So, I just found it interesting that we cherrypick. With that being said, if you do not want to support this and this is for the board, you vote no. But to sit here and make this the line of demarcation for concerns about the board, I think it's just cherrypicking. We address the ask of the principal. They will define what they want. Property will go out and purchase that. I've said this numerous times before. This conversation needs to be held with the principal because they are the ones that define what they want. They want five apples of blue, three apples of red, and two ops of purple. That's what
033we go out and buy. But I'm not having the discussions with the principal. That's not my role. I'm here expressing my views. Yes. But we're saying we want property to come back and present this to the board. what property will present to the board is what the what the principal has asked for. So that is why I say the shortest distance for this conversation is to have a conversation with the principal and that can come through the administration. But to come and say Mr. Dan should come back and address this. It's just like the community complains about traffic after the homes are built here. If you're that concerned, you go to the township. This concern here should start with the people that makes the decisions and it could come through the administration, but that's where
034property stands on this. Mrs. Westwood, do you have a comment? Three quick things. Um, one, although I know not everyone could attend, Dr. Choy was at our property meeting last month, so I just mentioned that the principal did come to the meeting, so was available for questions. Um, the second thing, and I've just noticed this more recently, first I say like love the zeal around being fiscally responsible, but there's a little bit of a feel. You call it cherry-picking, I call it recency bias. There's a little bit of a like, let's decide to like dig into the playground. I've been to Spring City two times since we've renovated. Yeah. Two, three times. Three times since we've renovated. That playground is a mess. Um, there were 20ome pictures in our board memo detailing how much of
035a mess and how unsafe it is. And while every board member may not feel that they have the appropriate information information to make a decision around cost, which I respect, um that playground isn't safe and I wouldn't want any of our children playing on it unless it's repaired. So that's just my personal opinion. So are we closing it now if it's not safe to our community? It's not the school's been closed since last since June. Yes, it is. It is ripped off. You can go Yes. I mean, if you want to drive by, it's under construction or you can come to our next tour. Um, I will our next what? I'm sorry. Tour. The next tour before the school opens again in August. And I will also say I want to thank our community members
036for sending pictures. Um, that was unsolicited and unprompted. And um, it really, you know, I think it's one thing to say that it's a mess, but it's another thing to see the visuals uh, from families that attend that school. So, I very much appreciate that. Um, so, anything else? Okay. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Opposed. Mrs. Goldsmith, what is your vote? No. Okay. So, that motion carries 62. Moving on to programming and curriculum, letters A through H. H. I have questions about B, C, and D. I don't know if you want to separate them. Well, would you like me to separate them? I don't know if you want to do them all together or as individuals. Well, I'll separate what you said. B, C, and D. Okay. Yes. Okay. Okay. Any
037others? Okay. So, we're looking at programming and curriculum letters A, E, F, G, H. Do I have a motion? Is there a second? Second. Any questions or discussion? All those in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? No. Motion carries. 71. Moving on to I will take them together unless anyone objects. Um, you do object. I don't. They're related. Yeah, they're all related. So, I'll take them all together. So, moving on to section nine, letters B through D. Do I have a motion? So, move. Is there a second? Second. Questions and discussion. Th This is Heidi. I So, I asked the question last week to clarify what they were and I felt like we did a great job of that, but then conversations from my initial question kind of got I don't know, went in
038different directions. So I guess what I'm what I want to know tonight is are these independent items can they be done individually or is it one has to be done so that two can be done you know so that you like in that con in that order can they be done independently Dr. Hill, did you hear that? Okay. Yes. Okay. So, letter B, the -ray category 1 agreement is the uh fiber that connects our buildings and is separate from C and D in that category 1 is the connectivity, the internet service that connects our buildings. C and D are scheduled upgrades as part of our annual upgrade plan. and will need to be done in conjunction so that warranty and support agreements will be in line. Okay. Thank you. And then for C, the cabling,
039um I I believe it was mentioned either in the um curriculum report or at the meeting that some of this new cabling would be done in the eighth grade building. Is that correct? Yes, that's correct. Okay, thank you. I'm sorry. Can I go to Mrs. Goldsmith? Yeah, Mrs. Goldsmith, just for voting purposes, could we vote B separately than C and D? Yes, we can do that. How should I take it? How do you want me to handle that, Mr. Fitzgerald? So, was was this moved as as in conjunction? It was all together. Um I I think the the cleanest way to do it would be to amend the current motion and and to uh separate B from the current motion. Okay. So, we are going to do an amendment to this motion to separate B
040from C and D. Okay. So, I'm making I'm going to ask someone to make a motion to amend the motion to separate B. Correct. Who would like to do that? I'll make the motion. I would like to make a motion to amend the motion to separate B. So, we're just going to B is going to be separate from the other two. That's fine. That makes sense. And do we need to make public comment? Yes. Public comment on our separating B. Anyone who wishes to speak, please approach the podium with your name or township of residence. Okay. Okay. Now we vote on the amendment. Okay. So, let's vote on the amendment. All those in favor of the amendment, please say I. I. I amend. Okay. Yes. Is there anyone opposed to the amendment? Mrs. Goldsmith, what
041is your vote? My vote is I. Okay. So, the amendment passes 80. So now I'm going to focus solely on B which is category 1 agreement. Do I have a motion? Is there a second? Second questions and discussion only on B. Just piggybacking on what Mrs. Deodder said. Dr. Hill, I think this came up last week because you um or it came up in curriculum about in the eighth grade building. I thought you said something around if we put the fiber optic in it could be reused or it could be auctioned or like there was some like it wouldn't be a lost cost completely. Can you just clarify please? Oh, absolutely. So for B only this is connectivity among all of our buildings. So this provides internet and data services for all of our buildings.
042It's dark fiber in the ground and on the poles and we lease that to provide connectivity for our buildings. Thank you. And just one other quick thing, I'll just apply this one to be for now. The the concern that I have and this came up last week and I also asked this during curriculum is just um I like the idea of the project obviously and it's attractive to have the 50% rebate um and also for the um return to the district. My concern is the decision on -ate and that being stuck in our courts and potentially I think Mark correct me if I'm wrong. I think you said you weren't expecting a decision till summer. So my concern is the timing of this and I'm worried about the district potentially not getting the 50% back.
043Well, you don't have to comment, but that's my concern. Well, last week when I asked that question, the response was August. I thought the response was we don't know what the future holds. Is that not Mr. Fitzgerald? I think that I think that's fair to say. I mean, the the the arguments are before the the courts. Um, a decision is likely late spring, early summer. So, I would I would say we're going to hear something probably in June as to whether the program persists or not. So, that's my concern. Like, if the program doesn't persist, do we still get the money back? I I believe we indicated and we indicated last week that I'm not anticipating a clawback of of money spent prior to a decision. So, but again, the crystal ball is is still
044out there in terms of what nine justices will be doing. All right. So, is there any other questions on B? Okay. All those in favor say I. I. Is there any opposed? No. No. Mrs. Goldsmith, what is your vote? My vote is I for B. So for B we have the motion carrying 62. Moving on to C and D. I will take them together unless I hear a desire to separate. Do I have a motion? So moved. A second. Second. Any questions or discussion? All those in favor say I. I I. Any opposed? No. No. Mrs. Goldmith, what is your vote? No. Motion carries. Doesn't pass. 53. There's three. Who was the No. Three here and one online. Four. So, my apologies. Can I have a roll call just so I clear who? Uh, let's
045just do a roll call. It was Mrs. Dr. Wright. Mr. Jackson. No. Mrs. Deerorf, no. Mrs. Westwood, can you use your mic so the community can hear you? No. Thank you. Mrs. Wingarten, yes. Yes. And then Mrs. Goldsmith. No. Okay. So, that motion does not carry. That's 44. All right. Moving on to let's see, we have other business letters. B through E. Do I have a motion? So move. A second. Is there a second? Second. Thank you. Questions and discussion. All those in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. 8 Z. Oh, I'm sorry. Mrs. Goldsmith, what's your vote? Yes. Motion carries 8-0. There are someformational items that we acknowledged last week and we're moving on to board comment. Does anyone have board comment? Yes. Uh, I just wanted to make um the
046board aware that um the Springboard Youth Football League's um agreement for renewal is up at the end of June. that we are um that I am working along with some other you know people to with the u members of the spring for youth football league to get pull that together uh so that we can take a a look at a vote on on that um hopefully next month we'll be able to so you can just look for more information coming as those that are not familiar with the spring for Youth Football League it's a separate entity but it serves I believe over 300 of our students Um and but they and it's a wonderful for for football and for uh cheer, but they have um a facility uh on our property. So similar to the
047Spring City Baseball, the League, the American League Legion, we have an agreement with them so that we can work cooperatively together to provide our students with this this service. So you can look for that to come. Thank you, Dr. Wright. And and again, thank you for your efforts along with Mrs. Goldsmith and Mr. Lackey. I know that you've been working diligently with Mr. Frink on uh the negotiations with the association. So, thank you. Any other board comment? Yes, I do. I just wanted to take a minute to congratulate Katherine Mull. Um she won. Let me pull it up so I don't mess it up. Um, her performance in the N, how do you, how do you say this? NAFME. NAFME. All Eastern concert band. [Music] Um, it features students selected from all state bands in
048Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington. She was selected to represent Pennsylvania bo based on her placement in the PMEA. Is how you say that, right? Yeah, I'm learning um all state band and a rigorous audition process. In addition, she's gone above and beyond with her work in the spring forward music program as a phenomenal flute player, student leader and drum major and a good human. Um so just want to take a moment to congratulate her. I know it's been on our social pages, but it's a huge accomplishment. So congratulations, Catherine. Thank you. Any other board comment? Okay. I guess I just want to ask for some clarification on the motion that didn't pass 44. Are we saying we're not supporting the work or we're
049not supporting the reimbursement? I think Dr. Hilt probably needs some clarification. For me personally, I just don't support the timing. I'm just worried about the reimburse. It's only It's just me. So, you don't support the work? I do support the work. I just want to make sure the district's going to get the money back and I worry without having the court decision. I know you said that typically it's not clawed back, but we're not in typical time. So, I don't take anything for granted. So, I would want to know for sure that we're going to get the money back. What about the rest of you? Any clarity for Dr. Hilt that voted no? I don't support the work. Um, as I mentioned last week, I asked a simple question. If would the district fall down
050if we didn't um implement this change? The brackets address hardware. Um, the fiber optic is the most important part of the connectivity. So, I do not support this work at all. Mrs. Goldmith, I don't support. So, sorry. Can you say that again without Mr. Ros's mic on? Sure. I don't support the work going forward at this time. Okay. Well, then based on this then Dr. Dr. Hilt's directive from the board is that he is not going to be doing the cabling or the hardware adjustments for the upcoming school year. Just making sure we're clear on that. Okay, Dr. Hilt, you have any other questions about that? Okay. Thanks. So, I have a question and I don't intend to muddy this, but it probably will muddy this. If we had four people that said that they
051voted yes, and we have Miss Westwood that says, "I voted no, but I support the work." Is that not the will of the board? Five people that would support the work. No. Well, not on on the vote. No. Correct. I mean, go ahead, Mr. Fister. I'll just Yeah. I mean, the vote the vote as presented failed. Certainly. I I understand the position that Miss Westwood noted. But in terms of direction, this failed. I mean, it would have to come back as a separate. It would have to come back once there's clarity for someone like Mrs. Westwood to feel comfortable with voting. Got it. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, I think that I can echo that sentiment is that it's I can't I don't it's not that I don't I don't support it right now like Miss
052Goldsmith said. I don't think it's forever. I know there's a deadline, but it's just I the way that it's presented. I don't have that comfort level to say yes on that. Okay. So then potentially we might see it as an action item down the road once we get clarity. I would Nothing prevents this from coming at a separate board meeting for consideration. Yep. Perfect. Thank you. So, can I just ask for clarification? Um, am I hearing the board say that it's okay for us to bring this back without the work back without? That's a no from No, because we get the 50% rebate from all three of those items, which um Dr. Hilt would know the math because how you came up with the numbers for the district savings, but I would imagine that would
053not be the same savings for us with the 50% on all three of those items not being received. All right. Thank you. Can I ask a clarifying question? Not about just procedurally. Sure. So, typically when people vote no, is it every time we're going to be asked on the spot to answer why we answered no? Because I don't recall that necessarily happening all the time. Wow. Okay. Well, let me address that. So, um, no, the question was around -ate. It wasn't around the work. So, I just wanted to make sure that the board understood that it's not about an -ate thing at this point. That work is not going to get done. And I just wanted to make sure the board understood that. That's all. So, no, I will whenever you vote something done, I
054will not question you unless we don't have the clarity that we need. Okay. Okay, any other questions? Thank you. So, we're going to move on to public to be heard. This can be on any topics. If you would like to speak, please approach a podium with your name and township or residence. And don't forget to sign in. Okay, seeing as no one is approaching the podium, motion to adjurnn.