School Board Meeting - 6/17/25

001Good evening. It's uh 7:01. We'll call the meeting to order. Um, please stand for the pledge of allegiance and a moment of silence to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. May be seated. We have a roll call, please. Mrs. Krauss, here. Miss Jal, here. Mrs. Hollow, here. Mr. Lady, here. Mr. Lustik, here. Mrs. Blank here. Mr. Wr here. Miss John Cover here. Mr. Wiggle here. Thank you. Uh we did not have an executive session before tonight. Uh do we have an approval of the agenda? So moved. Second. [Music] Agenda. [Music] Yes. Uh I do have um a motion to make to amend the agenda to accept the Alex the resignation of Alex

002PCEL French teacher effective June 17, subject to the execution of the separation agreement under 14.2.2.3 2.3 professional resignation. Thank you, Mr. Lustik. Do we have a second on that? Second. All right. Can we have a roll call, please? The roll call's on the amended agenda, just for clarification. Mrs. Krauss. Yes. Miss Jal, yes. Mrs. Hollow, yes. Mr. Lady, hi. Mr. Lustik, yes. Mrs. Plank, yes. Mr. Walmer, yes. Miss Young, yes. Mr. Wiggle, yes. Thank you. All right. Do we have a a motion for approval of the minutes from the board meeting of 52025? The minutes from curriculum and extracurricular committee meeting on 63 2025 and the minutes from the business and operations committee meeting on 63 2025. So moved. Second. Can we have a roll call, please? Miss Jal, yes. Mrs. Hollow, yes. Mr. Lady,

003I. Mr. Lustik, yes. Mrs. Plank, yes. Mr. Wmer, yes. Miss Young Cover. Yes. Mrs. Krauss. Yes. Mr. Wigle. Yes. Thank you. All right. Recognition of delegation for student representative report. I don't think we have any tonight. They're on vacation. Hopefully at the beach. Um, moving on to public comment. Uh, the board of school directors encourages comments from community members during the citizen comment section of the agenda. Upon being recognized by the board president, an individual shall state his her name, confirm that they are either a parent, guardian, resident, taxpayer, district employee, district student, or anyone representing a group or firm in the community, and may ask may speak to the board for a period no longer than 5 minutes. No participant may speak more than once on the same topic unless all others who wish

004to speak on that topic have been heard. Questions posed on citizen comment will not be addressed during the meeting. The question requires followup. The board president or superintendent will follow up individually. The board requests that neither complaints concerning job performance nor allegations of misconduct relating to specific employees or students be raised in a public meeting. Such concerns should be referred directly to the superintendent. The board will conduct its meeting civily and respectfully. All citizen comments deserve that same respect from both the board and other meeting attendants. at the discretion of the board president. Verbal disruptions, commotion, or other disrespectful comments, behaviors may result in a verbal warning, termination of the comment, board recess, or termination of all citizen comments. Uh the public speaker, uh John Linda Moulder, Good evening. I'm gonna uh show you my

005chat GPT here real quick. I uh I want to thank u the board. I got to tell you u we uh we just went through a primary and uh what you have to do to just do what you're doing. Deserves a lot of credit. Um, but I'm I really want to talk about a few things that um stood out as a a person that's lived here since 92. You can do that. It's a lot of years. Um, person that has uh raised four daughters that have graduated from upper school district and and pretty proud of Nation. Pretty excited about it. uh I think I've always been participating uh in in as much as I can and contributing. And so I I want to share with you a couple pieces uh because there was some misinformation

006which in reality is called lying. Uh it was really said out there and I thought it was kind of uh wrong. So, as I as I say these things, I just want to make sure they understand at least my point of view. Um, so we'll put this out there. Uh so I've been here since 1992, married 41 years and uh same person and then four daughters through this school and uh watch some of these faculty members grow up actually in the school and and it really amazes me, makes me proud watching watching these pieces. Um came out here running a Walmart There's only three Walmarts in all of Pennsylvania. And and I I shared you that because that kind of gives you a time frame. Um I guess most people only know me for two

007things, maybe three. Uh my wife, who all the kids seem to stop being giant when we're walking around, uh if you don't know, she a learning support aid up in Artsville. Um, and for my house which has inflatables at Christmas and Halloween. Other other than that, most most people don't know anymore who except for a few of these folks who knew I was coaching here for a long time. Spent a lot of years coaching, especially on the girl side. So, with that being said, I I I went to the primaries. you know, you go in there pretty fired up, you're ready to, you know, compete. And I got to visit with a lot of folks and and got to meet them and and and realize, you know, we're just people. Then I got to one

008place and uh let's see, I I probably registered as a Republican. Not that it matters to anyone. at the age of 18 college Reagan Republican for those that don't remember it was probably longer Republican than most of the people out there and had to hear information saying well I'm not a true conservative because I crossed screaming and anyway I didn't think that was really cool but being the person I was I you know, just get them to figure out who I am and go from there. So, as I share these pieces with you, I have more admiration for the people that had to sit up there. You guys go through this stuff a lot. And I really got a really I had a really good time up in in Al. I got to meet got

009to meet you and and Melissa and and we got to know each other. It's really funny when you get to know PE people. When you get to know people, you kind of get to relate to. And I got to tell you, the one that really stood out with me was I hope I get her first name right. I think it's Christina Lustig. I may be wrong. The first I got to tell you amazing the story she went. It's funny when you get to know people, not just say stuff about them because you don't know. When you get to know, it's a whole different ball game. And and I I share that with you is I I read posts on online after this primary. We'll get some writings that are better. They're they're fake. And really

010five minutes. Is it five minutes? Oh my gosh. All right. Well, anyway, I'm going to end with one thing. That's it. Um, well, you know what? That's my five, I guess. But I just want to share with you that I think it's more important to get to know people before we start throwing stuff out there about um God know I I still remember K called me up. I want to talk to you about garden or something or teaching my kids how to play piano. Sonia who god go back so far I can't ever remember when she was I think secondary Jamie I played basketball with him he's a hacker so you know my five minutes is up and Neil's gone come on man shut up anyway regardless thank you for what you guys do up

011here primaries are done and uh I will sit in the back at the end of as many meetings I can to answer any question anybody has about honest and I promise that I'm always looking forward, not backwards. All right. All right. I will shut up. Thank you. All right. Um nothing on the correspondence reports. The LU had their um annual staff recognition awards. There were several people there that are listed. They elected the officers uh as well that serve July 1 through June 30th. And uh they had several personnel items that six resignations, three retirements, eight professionals, five support staff positions filled and their next meeting will be August 12th at 7 p.m. at the Thank you, Dr. B. Any questions? Anything about you? All right. Federal programs, uh, Mr. Albert. All right. This is

012about as exciting as federal programs get. June of every year, we have the numbers. So, are you ready? Anyone do a drum roll? You're welcome to it. They finally came through for us. We weren't quite sure. I thought it was going to be July. I told Mrs. Hobbs, I was like, it's it's not looking good. We're going to have to wait till the July to file this. but they came in at the last minute. So, title one uh and it's in your agenda manager if you want want to see the exact to the dollar amount. But, uh we got $22,772 more this year in title one. Uh and title one is we pay for reading specialists salaries and benefits and supplies for the title one program at elementary with with those funds. Title two, we

013got $10,32 more. And title two pays for an extra kindergarten teacher salary and benefits at Picklerville Elementary School. That's good news. So, we move on to title three. We actually were decreased. We lost $6,215 in title three um money. and title four, we lost $2,79 uh dollar. So, title four es and flows. I'm not really worried about that. Um want to take a look little closer look at uh title three to make sure um reporting is done right and so forth. So, we make sure uh we remain consistent there. So, if you're looking at the end all amount, we have a consolidated gain of $24,510 in federal money this year. out pretty good overall. It's a package. Any any questions, comments for Mr. Al? Thank you. All right. Uh, Miss Krauss, Cumberland Perry. Okay. Um,

014I did see tonight on channel 27 there was a little uh blurb about the middle school camps that Cumberland Perry and talked about several hundred students from the 13 Sunday schools attended. So, we're hopeful next year we have a larger response to it. Um the other thing I just wanted to mention um due to the plans for construction starting at Cumberland Perry um originally it was shared last month that they thought the daycare program would not operate because of the problems with construction and getting the kids in and out. Um there was an hour of public comment at the last meeting as well as um response from the committee the JLC committee and uh the JLC directed Mr. Wolf to investigate ways that the daycare program could continue. So at this point um next week

015we have a meeting and I should know more about what they've done to try to ensure that that program goes through for the kids. So that's it. Thank you, Miss Krauss. Any questions, comments, Miss Cross? All right, Miss Hollow from the advisory board. Um, we were to have had a meeting this evening. Um, it was cancelled because there was nothing new and terribly uh pressing. We are continuing to work towards the 501c3 status uh that we have talked about a number of times. Um Amanda Markle sent through she chairs the uh distribution the grants uh the classroom grants and she sent through information on that just today and um I'm not going to list down through all the all the different lists but um there was 35,000 in funding requests which was up 16.5% from

016last year um and the Caner boards um approved 16,026 in funding. Um, of that 21 requests were fully funded, eight were partially funded. Um, and just a a little blurb here, a breakdown of the funding, 6,000 will go towards field trips, 4,600 will go to classroom enhancements, and 5,000 towards student activities. And Amanda provided a little a little pie chart of where the money was going. And it was interesting to me the breakdown that um it really is used throughout our district, grades K through 12. Um all the grants don't go to elementary or to high school. Um it's broken down pretty darn fairly to um the different the different schools. So pretty exciting. A lot of lot of requests are not new, but they tried and true. the fifth grade environmental camp, color day,

017um, soul sisters, but some new ones as well. So, pretty exciting what Caner Funds is able to do for our district. That's it. Thank you. Anything for Miss Halo? Thank you for the report. You're welcome. All right, moving on to the uh administrative reports. Uh, any comments, questions for administration? I got a few. Go ahead, Mr. Ray. I'll mention I'll mention one real quick. Mrs. Hobs, in your report, I noticed that there was the slight decrease in the cafeteria debt. Uh, I also noted that all the seniors paid up, which is good. Um, but we have a good trajectory here, but it looks like it's only down uh maybe around $1,000 down to 44,856. So, I I think we should move forward with JP Harris and um go to the next 30. Looks like 30

01830 referrals have been made to JC Harris. I think we should move forward with another 30 or whatever your team thinks is appropriate at this time. We need that to go down more than it has over the last few months. Thank you, Mr. Waller. Um I have a question. Yep. Go ahead. I just have one. Sure. Um this is for Mr. Brewer. How long have we been involved with Caitlyn's smiles? This is our first year. Yeah. And this was an idea made by our student council students. They brought the idea to Miss Gates and Mr. Robson and they kind of randomly collected different items for activities and crafts for the kids and spent the day there and they really hope to continue. Yeah. Good. Um, how does a child get on student council or student?

019uh they are elected by uh criteria set by our eighth grade teachers. Um the seventh graders have volunteering. So our eighth graders get priority and then seventh grade based on the criteria point average play into it activities outside activities and just overall leadership. So that is done by our Thank you. This looks like a really good program. Thank you. Mr. Lady, uh, Mrs. Buckley, I just wanted to say congrats to the fourth and fifth grade students on all their awards and achievements and the sixth graders. Um, and congrats to Mrs. Wilkinson and Mrs. Cauldron. Would you would you like to share a little bit about that? Well, they had the opportunity to get high, right? reading program. So we try to entice students to do things over the summer. So we have activities for them

020to do the summer and they do those things in the summer and they complete a certain level and they're put into a drawing and drawing they selected to come. [Music] I'm sure I'm sure Mrs. Wilkins and Mrs. Cauldron had had fun. Um, would you care to hit a little bit on the Caner Cares positive program? I saw they had end of day activities. Looked like it was a lot of fun for the kids. Yeah. So, we have we have a program that can cares program and they again earn things throughout the year and those who have earned the highest level have the opportunity to enjoy and obstacle course. This year we had rain every day. So we had to place inside our gymnasium because that inflatable was huge. Um and the full length of our

021gymnasium kids loved it. They were able to go through the obstacle course and there's a slide at the end. Last year we had it outside. put water at the end and there was a water slide that slide down but it was still just water. So those who um did that level down still got different outdoor games in the gym. They had actually brought in game systems that we had against the wall and they were kind of playing like tennis court. And also it looks like you have quite the list of summer projects, so you're staying busy. Yeah. Yeah. Uh Mr. Brewer, actually you already answered the question I was going to ask about Caitlyn Smiles. So, uh, congrats to the 100 students on their achievements that you recognize. Congrats to all of them. Um, Mrs.

022Graham, it looks like Keystone and APs all went well. Yes. Good. a lot of testing. Good. And I don't know if I'm gonna have the word right, but the Lat Latinx club hosted. So, you want to share a little bit bit about that? Um, years ago, it was a eB second or third year that the Latinx club picked up. and they call it connectal cation at the end of the year and it's a very nice way to end the year with our community and students different organizations [Music] painting [Music] I believe it was they had a rock wall different activities. Like a good time. Thank you, Mr. President. We have one more. Yeah. I have um something I'd like to mention to uh to our group and in particular to Mrs. Graham. Uh some of

023you will remember at our last meeting uh we had a a presentation by Mr. Kaiser the history teacher and then three uh of his stu I think it was three of his students gave up came up and spoke about uh the benefits of a field trip which Mrs. Holal, that's, you know, something that we all support like that. A field trip over to uh Gettsburg National uh Park uh as it relates to uh World War II vets who uh are uh interned there. Now, re I've always been very interested in World War II, but uh interestingly, I'm in another venue in my life. I as a retired military guy uh have been recruited to go and visit vets who are in hospice and right now I'm working with a a gentleman from uh Gettysburg who

024is 99 and a half years old and uh served as a tail gunner on a B24 bomber uh with over 25 missions, combat missions. and uh I'm looking forward to uh mentioning to him some of the things that those students specifically said in appreciation for those World War II vets. So I want to thank you for uh for that. Ask you to relay my thanks to Mr. Heiser and the students. Uh and it's interesting to be able to use their comments to encourage this vet in this time of need. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Rustic. And I just had one other thing for Mr. Graham. Actually, it's it's on agenda manager, but I think it's worth reading out the names for all the kids that uh are athletes that did very well. So, I'm just

025going to read them out quick for people that are listening. Uh Sydney McCleaf, uh pitcher in softball, Joselyn Miller, and Kieran Wagle, outfielder, Joselyn Miller's infielder. Uh they were voted all conference by the YAA conference three coaches. Uh, congrats to Haley Smith for fourth place in discus and Javelin patience king fourth place in shotput. Claire Roberts seventh in shotput. Landon England seventh in triple jump and Ryan Bungard in fifth in 110 meter hurdles. And that was at the PIAA district 3 track and field championships. And then uh this year they actually had a uh for those of you who didn't see it uh they had uh a commitment day here at the college here at the school for all the kids that were going going on to play sports and that you know it was

026a it was a really nice event something that hasn't been held here before and it was good for everybody to see. So those those students that are going on to for their college career in our sports would be Landon Taylor is going to Arcadia for univers Arcadia University for wrestling. Tavian McCulliff, your sinus for college, your sinus colleague for football. Bo Fory Stevenson for football. Gabriel Roger, Mansfield for field hockey. Ava Peterson, Marywood University, field hockey. Leah Strawber, Wilson College for softball. Claire Roberts, Robert Morris University for rowing. Kierney Wagle, Shannondoa University for field hockey. And Maria Alvarez, Lebanon Valley College for soccer. So congratulations to all them. Anybody else have any comments? Any questions? So I Yeah, go ahead. Back off of what you said and um they have earned over$4 million in scholarships.

027That's impressive. Yeah, it is. Thank you for sharing. All right, I will just say to the administration, thank you for all your hard work this past year. Um, I do not want to be known as that board president that made you come in July. So, enjoy July off and we'll see you in August. Enjoy the summer. uh superintendent report. Dr. Bell. Sure. Want to thank you all. This uh is my last uh official board meeting. So, I want to thank you all for uh first off asking me to come in here. It's been a blessing for me to be able to work with you uh individually and as a group and on the committee structures. It's been uh it's been a wonderful time. It seems like just yesterday that I sat over in Miss general

028area somewhere when you approved me and uh it was uh I consider it a great blessing to be here and the opportunity to work together with you and as you've heard me say before a lot of uh excellent administrators of teachers staff members in this district you have a unique atmosphere um and that's what makes you so special and uh while I haven't toured a lot of districts uh of the of the ones that I've been in, it is unique. It is something where you can tell right away and it's not necessarily something that somebody says, but that you care about one another, but most importantly care about kids. And that is something that I think you need to hold near and dear to your heart and continue to hold on to that because the

029kids recognize it. they say it. Um, unfortunately, one of the things during an interim position, you don't get out to the buildings as much as you'd like to. Um, I do know I've talked to Todd frequently, and uh, he wants to get out in the buildings a lot. So, you all will see him a lot more than you were able to see me. Um, but, uh, it's something that you have that's very special. You don't want to you lose it. Um, and I know the people that are here don't want to lose it either. So uh stay focused on that. Stay focused on doing everything you can for those kids. They do produce not only in uh curricular co-curricular uh but also extracurricular and all those events that they're involved in. You as a board

030support and promote and that is something that is very special as well. So, I want to thank you all very much for uh the time that you've permitted me to be here. Uh the opportunities that we've been able to have together um and the and the options that we've been able to discuss uh at least uh you know from my time since last January. Um one of the things that I did tell you in my interview is that I don't like snow days. I still don't like snow days and uh that's not going to get any better. at all. You never make the right decisions. But that's okay. Um, we'll take a little uh time now and I'll work with uh Todd on on a remote nature. I also have some some things that some

031people have asked me to stay involved with and and will stay involved with uh from the Caner funds and and the turf uh athletic program as well. But uh um you can be very happy with uh the individual you selected in Todd. He's going to help lead you into the future. I am convinced of that and uh you guys will be able to maintain the high level of excellence that you have here. So I just want to thank you very much for my time. Thank you for the report. So you kind of beat me to it. I was going to save the comments for the end, but we'll do it now. So um I just want to say thank you for the last 6 months um for your professionalism that you have brought to the

032position for us and one of the comments I wrote down in my notebook but you have a a humble confidence um that you made the decisions and you were confident what you were doing but you were not arrogant about how you carried yourself. So it's very um refreshing and to have that humble. So thank you. And then if other board members might want to jump in or have any comments, feel free and good luck. We're gonna try to keep it as long as we can. Go ahead, Mr. Wmer. If Thank you. Uh thank you, Neil. I just wanted to say to docu Dr. that you have done a great job and and it was I I think one of the things that you know aside from your administrative tasks and and all the things you

033do daytoday I think the tone that you brought in that you brought with you and not only gave to the board itself but also uh the administrators the teachers and even down to the students it was a real real trickle down effect and and I've heard some uh fantastic comments about you. So, uh, thanks for all you did. I'm sure Dr. Duchong will will continue, uh, what you've done and, uh, we look forward to that. So, thank you again and and, uh, good luck in the in the advisory role that you'll assume here, uh, for a few months shortly. Thank you. I' I'd like to say, you know, in my career, I've worked with probably at least eight superintendent either through teaching or schoolboard. And I supervise student teachers for a lot of districts, too.

034And I shared with someone recently that I felt you certainly are in the top tier of those superintendent with with whom I have worked. And thank you for coming to move us forward to the next step. Thank you very much. Many of us were uh able to attend the recent uh graduation for the senior class and I was very very pleased with uh the presentations made by our school leadership. Uh really thank uh each one of you who found yourself at the podium uh and it was uh a source of encouragement for me but more importantly for the students. So uh really thank you for that. Likewise, I'd also like to say that in the six months, um, it seems you have really made a mark on our district and out in the community, I

035heard over and over, why can't we just keep Dr. Bell? Why are we looking for him? Right, Neil? Neil and I sat on a basketball bench saying, why can't we just keep Dr. Bell? So, I'd say to have risen that quickly to that point out in the community is saying something and you will surely be missed. Thank you for all you did for us. Thank you. Yes. Thank you for your leadership in the last 6 months. Uh I think when we all thought we were at a very dark time, you brought us into a a better place in the last six months. So, thank you for all your leadership. Yes, Dr. Bell, I would just echo everyone else's words and you thank you for your leadership and professionalism and accompanying us these past six months

036and I would say ditto all of that as well. All right. I would yeah I don't text many people but I got I went a couple days without getting text from Dr. Bell and actually text him and said I miss you. So, thank you for all you've done. Thank you. All right. Uh, moving on. Treasures report. Mr. Walmer. All right. Thank you, Mr. President. I have three items tonight. Item 12.1, two, and three. Financial report, food service fund statement of operations, and the student activity fund. All ending on 53125. And I'd like to make a motion to approve those three reports. Second. Any comments, questions? We have roll call, please. Mrs. Hollow, yes. Mr. Lady, hi. Mr. Lustik, yes. Mrs. Plank, yes. Mr. Walmer, yes. Miss Young, yes. Mrs. Krak, yes. Miss Jal, yes. Mr.

037while. Yes. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Mr. Walmer. U moving on to consent agenda items. Is there anything that we would like to pull from the consent agenda? All right. I hear nothing. Can we have a motion to approve? So moved. Second. Any comments, questions? All right. Roll call, please. Mr. Leic. Yes, Mrs. Plank. Yes, Mr. Walmer. Yes, Miss Young Cobber. Yes, Mrs. Krauss. Yes, Miss Jal. Yes, Mrs. Hollow. Yes, Mr. Lady. Hi, Mr. Wiggle. Yes. Thank you. All right, moving on to committee reports and action items. Uh, Mr. Lmer, finance. Okay, thank you, Mr. President. Again, uh we've got a number of items here and we'll go through it. Uh I'd like to keep item 14.1.2 and that's the fiscal year 26 budget. I'd like to put that at the end of the

038list. So, we'll skip over that and come back to it. U the first item is donations. Got a generous donation from an anonymous donor for the cafeteria debt in the amount of $1,45. also uh another very generous donation of $1,32.33 from the Bruce Hollow endowment fund and this uh donations to purchase gardening supplies for the garden club uh at the intermediate school. So very much appreciated and that garden club will continue to thrive. I think that's a great thing uh Mrs. Buckley and and others are doing up in Artsville. Uh, as I said, we'll skip item 14.1.2, that's the budget, and we'll go to item 14.1.3. Uh, this is the yearly resolution to approve the Homestead Farmstead Act. Um, so this is kind of boilerplate. And I'll just note some figures on this. Uh, we're

039looking at just over $1.4 million from the Pennsylvania gambling tax. Um the average amount that goes to each homestead or farmstead is slightly over467 which will effectively lower the tax burden of all who are enrolled in the program. Uh and the total number of homesteads in the district is 200 uh 2,937 and farmsteads are 113. Uh um so why why don't I just make a a motion uh to approve that now? Second, comments, questions. All right. Can we have a roll call, please? Mrs. Plank? Yes. Miss Miss Shan Cover? Yes. Mrs. Krauss? Yes. Miss Jal? Yes, Mrs. Hollow. Yes, Mr. Lady. Hi, Mr. Lustik. Yes, Mr. Wmer. Yes, Mr. Wigle. Yes. Thank you. Okay, the next item is 14.1.4. These are the wage increases, which is year 26. We've got three separate groups here. support

040staff, act 93 staff, and the uh director of business administration. Uh the details are in your agenda there. Uh cola increases 2.5 across the board and then uh merit increases that range from 3 to 4%. So I'll make a motion to uh approve that. Second. Do we have any comments, questions? Mrs. Plank. Yes. Mr. Walmer. Yes. Miss Young Cover. Yes. Mrs. Krauss. Yes. Miss Jal. Yes. Mrs. Hollow. Yes. Mr. Ley. Hi. Mr. Lustik. Yes. Mr. Wiggle. Yes. Thank you. Okay. The next item is the sport staff compensation matrix. You can review that. There's um there's some longevity in there that may um you know be adjusted in the upcoming years, but that's where we're at uh on that for this upcoming fiscal year. So, I'll make a motion to approve that. Second. Any comments? Roll

041call. Mrs. Krauss. Yes. Miss Jal. Yes. Mrs. Hollow. Yes. Mr. Ley. Hi. Mr. Lustik. Yes. Mrs. Plank. Yes. Mr. Wmer. Yes. Miss Young. Yes. Mr. Wiggle. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Um, if you don't mind, Mrs. Toss, I'd like to skip to 14.1.6 for now and come back to it. Okay. Uh, so we'll go to 14.1.7. This is the LIU bid summary document. Um the total amount is increasing over last year and this is a competitive bid that uh multiple school districts uh put in for involves copy paper art supplies and trainer supplies. So I'll make a motion to approve that. Second. Any comments, questions? Roll call, please. Miss Cobber, yes. Mrs. Krauss. Yes. Miss Jal, yes. Mrs. Halibal, yes. Mr. Lustik, yes. Mr. Lady, hi. Mrs. Plank, yes. Mr. Walmer, yes. Mr. Wiggle,

042yes. Thank you. The next item up is the chemical disposal contract with Elk Environmental. I'll make a motion to approve that contract. Second. Comments, questions, roll call. Mr. Leic, yes. Miss Young Cobber, yes. Mrs. Krauss, yes. Miss Jal, yes. Mrs. Hollow, yes. Mrs. Plank, yes. Mr. Lady, hi. Mr. Walmer, yes. Mr. Wel, yes. Thank you. Okay. Item 14.1.9 is the fiscal year 26 contract with new story school service. This uh this is uh only will the districts will only receive a charge if a student is sent there. It's for special education services students with IEPs. So I'll make a motion to approve that. Second. Any questions? All right. Roll call. Mr. lady. Hi. Mrs. Krauss, yes. Miss Young, yes. Miss Javal, yes. Mrs. Hollowal, yes. Mr. Lustik, yes. Mrs. Plank, yes. Mr. Walmer. Yes. Mr.

043Wigle. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Uh, and for the sake of time, I'm going to combine a few here. Uh, Mrs. tops if if you don't mind. Sure. And I I'd like to combine item 14.11 14.12 um 14.13 14.14.15 and 14.17. And did you include 14.110? I'm sorry. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, we can include that as well. Thank you. Second. Okay. Those items. Um, go ahead. Yeah, we have a second. Any comments, questions? You can go ahead, Mr. Rome, if you had a comment. Uh, I was just going to go down through the list, but everybody has the agenda and the details in front of you, so uh, no comment. Okay. Thank you. Any comments, questions? Roll call. Miss Jal, yes. Miss Young, yes. Mrs. Krauss, yes. Mrs. Hollow, yes. Mr. Lustic. Yes. Mr. Walmer. Yes. Mrs.

044Plank. Yes. Mr. Lady. I. Mr. Wiggle. Yes. Thank you. Okay. So, that leaves us with a couple uh um let's see. I guess the I think that I think we can do a item two and that's the upper school district budget. Um, as as I've stated in past meetings, from a budgetary standpoint, fiscal standpoint, the school is in a fantastic position. Uh, just today, I heard another school district uh, in the area who's increasing taxes and has for many of the past years. This year, we're not having a tax increase, and I hope that's the case in the foreseeable future. Um but the um real estate tax is set and will remain the same at 156383%. Again a 0% tax increase revenue expected next fiscal year is 36 million217,864. expenditures expected to be at 38,000

04538,86,458. Um, so uh I'll request a motion. Uh, do we need a motion? I'd like to pull something out of the budget. So, do do we approve it? Do we get a motion and then talk about it? Yeah, we need a second before we can discuss. Yeah, we need a second. Second. Second. Okay. All right. Go ahead, Mr. Wr. I just I think it's a great budget. Shel, you did a great job on it. There's one item I'd like to pull out of it. It's the girls wrestling program. Uh the expect the expected expense is $35,000. Um I think that uh you know, one of the things that Mr. Ever said in the past and and I've also said is that you can maintain a budget and be fiscally responsible by resisting the urge to

046add programs. And it's my view that there's just not enough interest at this point in time in a girls wrestling program. Uh they do have the option to participate with boys. Um, so for those reasons, I'd like to pull that out of the budget. Perhaps have a a vote separately on that. That pulled out um uh be ready to approve this budget. I'm not sure with Title N if there's a request for a program that we can deny that request. I don't know if any if you or any of you can address that, but I I would caution about pulling a program like that that's being requested for our girls. Dr. B. Um the request would would not make any more restrictive or less restrictive under title 9. Title Nine is dependent upon a total

047number of students, student population, the ratio of how many participate in that program. Um, we are I I would have to double check, but we are well within that title nine as it is right now. Um, so from a perspective of title nine, it's a good question. Uh, but the request does not impact um whether you're meeting it or not. Okay. Do we have anything comments? Yeah, go ahead. Mr. Rome, Title N, you know, it it really ensures equal opportunities for students and staff based on based on sex. Um, so there there are there are other options out there. My question would be like uh you know I'll leave it at that but I I think there is equal uh opportunity between boys and girls males and females. My question would be how many um

048how much interest was there you know to to have the request come forward like I can't remember I was trying to think if there was numbers attached to that request I feel like when Mr. uh presented to us. He had done um some survey work and some research and had um girls who were interested. And I also remember him sharing that the girls who um chose to wrestle on the boys team often didn't have the opportunity to wrestle. Um I I'm sorry he's not here, but I I remember him sharing that the numbers of girls interested in wrestling is growing. There are more school districts, I believe there were all but one in our county who has girls wrestling and he felt he felt it was viable. And if I recall, um he said if

049we didn't have the number of girls to come out, there'd be no loss to the budget. I mean, there simply wouldn't be a program this particular year. Am I right? Did I hear him say that? Yeah. And yes, and and you're your comments are appropriate. One of the things you can look at as a board is approve your budget per se as it is presented. Um but maybe if you don't want if a majority of this board doesn't want to move forward towards that program, it gives you that opportunity not to do that in the future. And that's really I mean you have that opportunity now because you don't have a tax increase and you don't have uh anything that's being increased as a direct result of wanting to put in any program at this

050particular point. So technically you could approve this budget as it is and then direct the administration to come back to the board prior to something like that being implemented. You could easily do that just so you know because I'm not a numbers person just so I can get some clarification. You're saying that approve the budget as it is. If there isn't enough uh numbers to make the program work, then the program just wouldn't happen. That is correct. Where would that those funds then go? And then the expenditures don't take place. They would end up rolling up into the ending fund balance for the end of this year in meaning next year July 1. They would roll up in the ending fund balance and start then the beginning fund balance in the following year. Okay. Like

051a surplus. That is correct. Okay. Would that we'll have to would that happen on a yearly basis like if we would approve the program say this year there wasn't enough numbers so it rolled up as a surplus would it be in the budget then for the following year or would that program be done? That's left up to you as a majority of the board to make that decision in the following year because your decisions on the budget are only yeartoyear. You can't can't do multiple years. Okay. Yeah. Mr. Walmer, go ahead and secure the question. Well, do we need to determine what the threshold is for enough interest for girls wrestling? Does it mean no is enough interest one girl interest 10? I think we need to I think we need a number that defines

052what what is enough interest. I I think you could certainly do that. I don't necessarily think you need to do that tonight and in around the budget, but I think if you want to as a as a group uh and under athletics have a have a direction and a discussion made of what you think is appropriate for that. I do know that there has to be a certain number can't remember the number to actually have a team. You have to have I thought it was seven of the weight classes filled at a minimum. So, but but I don't want to speak for uh Anthony and I think he should, you know, he's he's the expert in that athletics. So, he should be the one that does that. But from a standpoint, uh Jerry, tonight I

053don't necessarily know that you need to do that, but I would basically say to the board, you should direct then the administration to put something together that you would request at a certain point of time. Okay. So I think Mr. Walmer Mr. problem. I think yeah, I think we would need if if that's the case and that's the direction we're going I think we would need to amend the motion to approve the budget but to revisit the girls wrestling at a later time through a policy meeting or not policy through a committee meeting. Yeah, that would be good. That works for me. I think that's a good compromise. Okay. So, can you amend your uh motion? Please tell me where to amend it, Mr. President. Which which we're we're going to motion to approve the

054the budget um with the girls wrestling to be uh discussed during the committee meeting. Okay. I'll make a motion to approve the fiscal year 26 budget uh uh with the understanding that uh the girls wrestling the potential of the girls wrestling program will be discussed at a future future committee meeting. Second. Okay. Any comments? Any questions? I guess my question is if I vote if I vote yes on this, am I saying that I do not want to necessarily have the wrestling program? No. You're saying we're approving the money, but we're going to discuss it in committee. Okay. Yeah. All right. Any comments, questions? Okay. Roll call, please. Mrs. Plank, yes. Mrs. Krauss, yes. Miss Young Cover, yes. Mr. Jal, yes. Mr. Walmer, yes. Mrs. Hollow, yes. Mr. Lady, I Mr. Lustik. Yes, Mr. Jal.

055I mean, I'm sorry, Mr. Lustic. Mr. Wiggle, I'm sorry. Yes, it's too early. I've got you twisted up, Mrs. Hobs. That's all right. But this next item for 14.1.6, uh, that's one of the items we're going to come back to. Kind of relates to the to the girls wrestling program, and there's a couple positions in there for that. So, I think I I would I would make a motion to approve this with the understanding that we're going to revisit that program in an upcoming committee meeting. Second. So, that's a motion to approve 14.1.6. Second. We have a second. Any comments, questions? Uh, roll call, please. Miss Jalal? Yes. Mrs. Krauss? Yes. Mrs. Hollowal? Yes. Miss Young, yes. Mr. Lady, hi. Mrs. Plank, yes. Mr. Lust, yes. Mr. Wmer, yes. Mr. Wigle, yes. Thank you. Okay,

056if my accounting is correct, we have one more portion 1.16 and this relates to the uh visual sound smartboards. Uh so I'll put out a motion for on this. All right. Do we have any comments or any questions? Um I think the proposal is in the agenda manager. I actually did have a question about this. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, first of all, I was just wondering what exactly are smartboards? Smart, so I need that stuff told to me. Good evening everybody. Um, so a smartboard is an interactive panel uh that takes place of a whiteboard, a regular just dry erase whiteboard. Um, these devices are slated for the elementary school um, grades kindergarten and second. Um, so they're pretty much an interactive panel. You you write on them, you you erase on them. They

057allow digital content delivery for the students that allows the teachers to um enrich their um teaching with their schoolwork and everything through Google and whatnot. So, okay. So, when you and when you say it allows digital content, explain it to me like I'm a second grader. So uh uh a presentation um on the whiteboard it's interactive. So the teachers generate and create um how I want to say this Mr. Kurs there. Can you help me out? Basically you can do on a computer screen you project on the smartboard. Okay. Kids can come up. Teachers could have you know for example if you have a kindergarten class you're learning about counting. kids come out, it can move objects on the board to certain spots and count them and so forth. So, it allows the students to

058interact with the learning as well instead of just being like projected on a screen. Anything that you would put on an iPad or a laptop, it's automatically up there. So, they can like touch and drag and that goes up. Okay. It's a It's a large touchscreen and um I know that some of the teachers that would utilize these may go so far into a class and then the class ends and they go to something else where they're at they can then save. So the next day they can come back in and pick up right where they were. Okay. And it may be different for different classes. So those are some other benefits that they can pick up off of that. So the my other question that I had when I was reading through that was

059what's the life expectancy on those like between five and I'm going to say 10 years. Right now we're coming up on eight seven and eight years and unfortunately they're degrading in performance. The sensors are going bad. Um so just like anything else I mean they start losing update functionality. So the ones that we have now that we haven't replaced already don't update anymore. So between five and 10 years. So we already have these in the K and second class. Yes. What is the um I guess the warranty because if I'm looking at it, there's a a one year and a threeear service plan. So like what's the warranty? I mean do we have to go with the additional 15 grand? They come with one year warranty on them out of the box. So, no, we

060don't have to. Yeah, I've seen some that kind of flip up so that you can access the whiteboard behind and then flip it down when you want to use the interactive Smartboard. Is it like that or is it just fixed in place? It's fixed. Fixed. Yeah. Is this an ongoing expense or is this something new? Like, is this part of our new budget? Was this part of capital projects or is this just entirely new? This is built into the budget for replace hardware refresh replacements. So we've had this the past couple of years. Yeah. And Mr. can't trout. Well, but can you just just let the board know are are these replacement machines? Are you retiring some? Are some broken? Are you adding to These are all full full replacements. Mr. Full replacements for K

061and second grade. [Music] Does every um grade have that these in the elementary? Third grade was completed last summer. Is what? Third grade was completed last summer. Oh, gotcha. Yeah. Okay. Personally, I'd like to get a little more information on these smart boards u um before we approve them. So, I'm going to make a motion to table this tonight and revisit it at our next meeting. Second, right? Do we have any comments, questions? Ex. Um, can you be more specific about the kind of information that you would like to have given to you? Yeah, I'd like to know which which ones are being replaced, what the schedule is for retirement, what's the useful life, uh those kind of things. I would say as well, do we get any benefit from the ones we're replacing? I

062mean, is there any value to the ones we're replacing or not? I guess a trade in program. No, no, no trade up on those. Oh, we cannot work with when they're You just answered all the other questions. It is replacement for what grade? You already answer kindergarten in second grade. Yeah, Mr. Rober, I don't know if you could hear. We already have them in K and second grade and we're replacing those that are seven or eight years old. I guess a question for Mr. Canrell, what's the latest that we would have to decide to get those in by the start of the school? um probably by July one to be honest because there there's going just like everything else there there's probably a wait time. So um the discussion that I had with uh Mr.

063Brown from Visual Sound was if we if we put this order in uh supplied them with the PO if this was approved we'd probably have them mid August so right before school starts. Okay. I guess I have one more question. Is there one that is maybe needing more replacement than the other one? Kindergarten or second grade or they both are we have smart grade levels that start to have continuing issues. So I can't say one's worse than the other. That's kind I guess a question I would have is do the teachers really enjoy using them? I've I've heard mixed bags, not from this district, but sometimes they just become a dinosaur that collects dust or and sometimes they're really really used and every day. That's that's good. That's important to know. I don't I don't

064see a reason not to approve this based on what what is being used already and what those of you who use it all the time. It's already budgeted. Correct. That's correct. I don't I don't see a reason not to approve this. I agree with Mrs. Halibah. Uh I've been thinking about uh you know the the whole concept of uh something that I didn't did not know even existed. But I appreciated the comments from our uh teachers and our administrator at the elementary level and uh I will support uh this purchase because I believe it's important and will be useful. I think if it's if it's a tool that teachers really enjoy and rely on. Yeah. and what need and you know I know how it is when it can't be updated and then it gets

065clunky and slow and then your whole beginning of the school year gets thrown off. So, uh if it's going to impact that, I would be in favor of going ahead and approving it. So, I guess maybe I have a couple more questions. Um looking at the proposal, if we went with without the one-year three-year plan, we're talking 46,000 and change. Is that correct? roughly 46,000 plus installation too. I I I think there's an installation in there too from visual sound. May not see that. It might be closer to the bottom. Okay, I see that. So, we're talking 60,600 total. That's correct. Okay. That does not include the one year or three year. That's correct. But there is a one year out of box. That's just an additional year. Sorry, I did not scroll down far

066left. Any other comments or questions? At the end of uh one year, would would uh the board uh of directors then have an opportunity to consider and perhaps approve the three-year uh service arrangement? Absolutely. Okay. I think it's technology. It's already being being used in the classroom. The teachers obviously like it and it's literally it's replacement. So, and it's built into the budget. So, there's no reason not to approve it. I think it would be a huge step backward to say no, we're not going to do this. Any other comments, questions? All right. So, we have a motion on the table for Mr. Walmart to um table this with more information. Um, we would either need to vote on that or you can withdraw that, Mr. Wner. Uh, for fun, I'll get out voted twice

067here. So, let's let's do the vote on tableing it. Do the vote on accepting it. See if I can go for two for two here. And I for anybody who votes against me, I never do, trust me. So, we can have a table vote and and I'm not opposed to them. I I really can't hear Mr. Canrell very well, but but okay. Um, we'll get more details, but let's have a let's have a vote. The table vote first. Okay. The the motion on the vote is to table this, Mr. President. Point of order. Was there a second to that motion? There was a second. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Roll call, please. Mrs. Krauss. No. Miss Jal, no. Mrs. Hollow, no. Mr. Lady, no. Mr. Lustik, no. Mrs. Plank, yes. Mr. Walmer, yes. Miss Young Cover,

068no. Mr. Wel, no. So, we have seven nays and two yays. All right. Okay. Let's go two for Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Mr. Walmer. You're up to go two for two. Yes, that's what I was going to say. Let's go two for two. So, I'll make the motion uh for approval on the visual sound smart board.16. Second. Any comments, questions, or I think we said it all, right? Roll call, please. Michelle Hoverver. Yes. Mr. Wmer, no. Mrs. Plank, no. Mr. Leustic, yes. Mr. Lady, I Mrs. Haliba, yes. Miss Jal, yes. Mrs. Krauss, yes. Mr. Wel, yes. Motion carries. Okay, it looks like we did it. Two for two. Uh uh I believe I believe that's all I had. Mrs. Hobs, I think I got to all of them then. Correct. I think so. Thank you.

069All right. Well, that's all I had for tonight. Back to you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. Walmer. Okay. Moving on to uh personnel. Mr. Lustik. Yes. Thank you, Mr. President. uh we have uh before us on our computers six items that uh we will be addressing plus the one additional item that uh we I spoke of at the start of the meeting. So uh I would suggest that we use the same procedure that I've used in previous meetings. uh I'll I'll uh direct your attention to the various items and pause for questions or concerns and then handle it all as uh a single uh vote or or motion for a vote uh at the end. So having said that uh our first item is under 14.2.1 2.1.1 Reorganization. This relates to current administrative staff positions.

070As you can see, okay, our next uh item uh is going to be 14.2.1.2 job description. And you'll notice this relates to uh secondary assistant principal uh with um a a PDF uh uh information there uh attached. All right. Our next uh item is 14.2.2.1 2.1 new higher and uh I'm having trouble with my computer so I'm not able to make the comment about that. I I can't pull it up. Uh but I'll move on to the next one which is 14.2.2.2 to post and advertise. And you can see that that relates to uh an an anticipated Spanish teacher at the Bigville High School. Our next one is 14.2.4.2 supplemental contracts educational [Music] and you'll see information there regarding uh four uh uh people for our attention. Now to stay in sequence uh the next

071one uh will be uh which I'll add is 14.2.2.3 2.3 professional resignation and I'll read this to you uh so you'll be informed about what we're dealing with. Recommend to accept the resignation of Alex Purcell, French teacher effective June 17, 2025 subject to execution of the separation agreement. And our final one is uh relates to volunteer services 14.2.5. And you'll see three people who uh have stepped forward to volunteer with us. Uh I'm always appreciative of that. And uh that concludes my report. And uh I would make a motion that uh what we have just looked at be approved. Second. comments questions. Can I ask to uh move or remove the reorganization to a separate vote? Certainly. So, uh if you'd like, I'll amend my uh motion. Okay. We I would make a motion that

072we approve all of the items listed, including the one that I read. uh but uh but reorganization which is 14.2.1.1 uh will be uh dealt with separately. So uh my motion is to approve everything except that one item. Thank you. Mr. Lester, you have a second. Second. Any comments? Any questions? Roll call, please. Mrs. Krauss, yes. Miss Jal, yes. Mrs. Miss Halib, yes. Mr. Lady, hi. Mr. Lustik, yes. Mrs. Plank, yes. Mr. Walmer. Mr. Walmer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's upset that he went two for two. Miss Junko. Yes. Mr. Wel. Yes. Thank you. [Music] Then that takes us back to a discussion and a vote relating to 14.2.1.1 reorganization. Um, and I would uh ask if there are comments or um considerations. I think we need a second. Second. No, you're good. All right. Any

073comments? Any questions? I would like to see um the approval on the um the change in assistant superintendent and the wording that that was updated. Um but I would like to also uh not vote on and table the um the reorganization until we can get more information and vote at the next meeting. Is that your motion? That would be my I guess that would be my motion. Motion to I'll second that. Motion would be to table. Second. Yes. Second. Any comments? Any questions? So, you're motioning to table this until further information. What information are you uh wanting to get? So, I would like to do a comparison with other schools in the area. Um, do they have a a principal and an AP at the high school, middle school level? Like what or you know,

074what are the other schools in the area also doing that RSI as well? Um, or do we want to stay with just a Dina students and not go to the AP? So, the AP would be under act 93. Dean is doing stays under the union contract. So I would just like to have more information to compare those two. Mr. President, would you uh anticipate that that uh information would be available so we could uh again consider this at a vote at our next meeting? Correct. I'll ask uh Mrs. Hobbs and um yes, we will get that done. Sure. Any other comments, questions? I I I understand, you know, adding, excuse me, adding more duties to the role of assistant principal would make that excuse me, it would make that position more valuable, I think, to

075our principles in particular, that, you know, the fact that an assistant principal with certification could evaluate and supervise teachers. um a dean of students is in that CBA salary schedule and it's a little difficult for your peer to evaluate you if you understand what I'm saying. A date of students can't do that. And um you know I I think too we've we've revised a couple other positions where we didn't just add an assistant superintendent. We we modified restructured the director of curriculum position and we increased the salary for the assistant superintendent but we also increased the duties that that person is responsible for. So, um, you know, I' I'd be in support of it the way it is. Are you are you just looking to compare how um neighboring schools are structured? Well, yeah. As

076far as neighboring schools and then do we need to go to the AP or can we stay with the Dina students? Dina student stays under the union contract the act 93 which would be the admin the AP um which is u you know they get the cola their merit increases or more there are more more increases over the next couple years more expenses okay so just a comparison of the two positions you have to look to see what other schools in the area doing and you know do we need the AP or can we stay with the D students if memory serves Um the dean of students was limited by hours of work per day. Correct. Must fit the contract. Mhm. Whereas the the AP does not. Is that correct? That is correct. Can you

077have a dean of students who does not fall under the collective bargaining agreement? Well, you would have to put them somewhere, which means you putting them back in Act 93, I assume. Okay. So, that could be an option. Well, yeah. If you're going to do something like that, I'm not sure if you want to keep it as a dean and you want to make it an assistant principal. Um, and and you don't want to spend 12 months worth of a salary, you want to look at 10, um, those are other options, but it isn't going to change Neil's comment about where they fit salary wise. Right. Right. Okay. Any other comments? So, the vote on the table um would be to uh table this to uh to the next meeting to get more information. Can

078we have a roll call, please? Mrs. Cross. No. Miss John Cobber. Yes, Mr. Walmer. Yes, Miss Jal. Yes, Mrs. Hollow. No, Mr. Lady. No, Mr. Lustik. Yes. Mrs. Plank? Yes. Mr. Wigle? Yes. Thank you. The motion carries the table. He already did. Okay. Moving on to uh to property. Uh, Miss Young Coover, uh, I recommend approval for the, um, to surplus the following items from the high school and the middle school cafeteria. couple um a rectangle table seats four green top seven round table seats four six folding rectangle seats 16 four folding rectangle seats 12 five folding rectangle seat 16 and two 8ft folding could seat 8 to 10 um so I would recommend approval make a motion to surplus these items second conference ations. I guess my only question, are these then to be

079donated or um offered to the public? I'm assuming. Yeah. The decision is uh whether they go to a variety of different places is within that policy that you've approved. Um, and that really is usually left up to uh Anthony and that group to see if they're salvageable, not salvageable, uh, or if they would collapse or cause harm, they're going to be destroyed. Okay. Yep. Okay. Roll call, please. Mrs. Clank, yes. Mrs. Krauss, yes. Miss Jal, yes. Mr. lady. Hi, Mr. Walmer. Yes, Mr. Lustik. Yes, Mrs. Hollow. Yes, Miss Young. Yes, Mr. Wy. Yes. Thank you. All right. Uh, thank you, Miss Young. Moving on. Nothing under transportation, uh, committee reports. I don't see anything under curriculum, athletics, or student activities. Uh, so policy review. Uh, Miss Grass. Oh, thank you. Um, I'd like to separate

080these two policies. Um, we have two policies at first read tonight. Um, excuse me. Like to recommend approval of the policy number 802, which is school organization. If you look at that attachment, it is the breakdown of chain of command basically at the district who's who's supervising whom. Um that we would I would like to make a motion to move that into second. Any comments? Do we go on to 109 then? I I don't think there's a there is not a vote on Okay, so we're at 109 First Street. Um, so if you take a look at that. Okay. This is listed as 109. Um, first read and I'm going to defer to Mr. Alvin. 10. And can you explain where the the language in 109 came from? Sorry. So 109 option two as you

081see in your uh agenda managers this came from a request from the some of the policy committee members they wanted to mirror uh 109.1 uh where if you remember that is for the library and media centers that we worked through uh the past year and now we're applying that model that framework to actual classroom resources books supplemental materials that are in the classroom as well. So you'll see this mirrors that policy uh throughout the language has changed from library media to classroom resources uh to encompass all of that but pretty much it it follows that trajectory trajectory the whole way through and this was the option that the committee chose to move forward for first year. What about option one? That was not uh that was shared with the committee, but the committee did not

082want to move that forward. That was on the May one agenda along with um the administrative guidelines. Yes, that's where there was an option two, option one, and the administrative guidelines. I was unable to be at the May meeting, and I I would like to pursue option one. I would like to look at that more in depth. I I think also um I believe I believe it was you Maria requested um perhaps we reach out to the faculty and see what their take was and we were provided um some information that the the faculty um had had given regarding this policy and I I really appreciated the time and effort they put into um responding to it and as a non-teer it really made some light bulbs go off for me like oh wow I

083didn't realize that this would impact this in this way so that was very helpful to me and I think we should I think we should take into consideration the feedback they gave us and look at option one again um I want to add that the teachers association took the initiative to put together that survey and um when I I I saw part of it in early May or early June and you know I asked to be sure that every teacher in the bargaining unit had an opportunity to have a voice and I really truly appreciate that they went together and organized a a survey and and gave it to us. Um, and I'll point out um May 1st was when we moved this to first read and that's also when Mrs. Jalal suggested that we

084hear from the teachers. So what we heard the survey that we received from the teachers has not been discussed in committee. Okay. Um where we are right now we're we're in that summer law. Remember last year we had no committee meetings for policy in June or July. Um so we we have two ways that we could go from this point. Um if if people are interested in option one if if we can share the teachers input about how 109 would affect them. Um, one option we have, yeah, I'm sorry about the word option, but one thing we could do is discuss this next board meeting Jul in July. We only have the one board meeting. We have no policy meeting until August. So, it's either let's talk about it in July and get information together

085or this board decides that we need to take it back to the committee which would meet in August. So, I I'm asking for input about which way you folks would like to go. I think in essence of the information without seeing opt without majority of us not seeing option one that weren't at the committee and also with the time that was spent by the association and teachers to give us their their thoughts. I would be in favor of this getting moved to August to the next committee meeting. I think we've already spent a great deal of time on the book policy and when we came to the conclusion for the library all along the comment was made I believe it was Gareth who made it and most of us had agreed at that time that

086in an effort to be consistent that we would use that same template and this information has been available whether you were at the policy committee meeting or not the information was available able for you to read. And so I think we've we've we've drugged the book policy out long enough and I think that we should be consistent across the board whether we're talking about the library or whether we're talking about the classroom. Mrs. Plank, I I feel that a board member requested information um from our teachers and that information was given. that was not available at the policy committee meeting in May. And I think it would be a huge disservice to them to not at least read what they have to say and and talk about it in policy committee in August. I'm very

087grateful to the teachers association for providing the information. and I've read it uh thoroughly and line by line and I wholeheartedly support the teachers efforts to provide resources that are student centered and culturally appropriate as a teacher myself. I'm uh 100% and I was actually really relieved because I don't think that the pol this option two um will impact the concerns. I I I I'm I'm I was like, "Oh, that that's what that what it seems to me is the real crux of the issue is um teachers worried about having to catalog the every single resource before it being used. No one is prop that has not been proposed and there is a language about you know keeping an inventory but that was part of the policy from before that was not introduced as something

088new. So I I I think that um you know we should move forward. I have a question that perhaps uh should go to Mrs. Krauss, but I'm looking at uh the uh final page of uh option two and uh under enactment and scope of this policy uh it's it reads this policy shall take effect with the beginning of the 2025 2026 school year if we uh chose to um have our next have at our next meeting uh the discussions that I've that I've uh heard from the table that that would perhaps be a good uh thing for us to do. Would it still be possible for us to have the implementation take place at the beginning of the 20 2025 2026 school year? Are you are you referring to the August meeting for policy that

089when you speak about the meeting? Well, I No, I thought that you said that we possibly could do our consideration in July. Isn't that what you said? I I said we could share option one and the teachers input at the board meeting. Yes. Right. Yeah. And and I I can appreciate that. Uh my only question was is is that uh going to prohibit us from from having a possible implementation at the start of the next school year? Um I'll defer to you. I think it may be wise if we bring this back to the policy committee to take a look at that particular sentence for a more reasonable timeline. Whether that's January 1st, whether we and you know November 1st, however the progression of the approval will take place and in the same length if

090the inventory is something that was in the old policy and you wish to soften, modify, change that language as well, we can certainly um address that. Jo at that meeting as well if we wanted to um share that if you wanted to uh explore that concern a little more closely. Yeah, cuz that has never been I'm curious if if inventorying it was in the prior policy, I'm not sure why that's causing such an issue now. I mean, it seems to me that if an inventory was done based on the prior policy, all you should be doing is adding to it, not creating a whole list of I think what did someone say, a thousand books. I mean, that inventory should have already been done. I I don't think there was ever a request for classroom

091library inventory. The inventory was is merely a textbook. It was approved. Yes. And as textbooks were public were approved by the board, we we kept kind of kind of running inventory, right? Um the difference here is that the implication is that everything would need to be inventoried that's considered classroom resources and be approved by the right well I thought that this policy 109 issue had been solved and we were moving on with it. Um, I did go back to the May 1st meeting, pair the two versions, one and two, and it it's a big it's a heavy lift to sit there with both side by side and look at each line and compare the two. So, I ran out of time. Um, I I would be in favor of holding off on it tonight and

092pushing it to August. That's that's my opinion, you know, and and I have one other comment on page on page five of six, the second paragraph, and I'll read it. It regarding the opt-in form. And you know, I think we all just need to read this, read this paragraph and understand what it's saying. And and I'll read it here. It says, "The opt-in form must include the following language. By signing this document, you are giving permission for your child to be provided with classroom books and instructional materials that may include written or visual depictions of sexual conduct and excessive profanity. If you decline to sign the document, it'll no way impact your child's ability to participate in the class, school activity, or school function. I think need to look at that and think think why

093why would there even be depictions of sexual con conduct or excessive profanity in the school. So, uh, you know, whichever way this policy goes in the end, I think we we should all evaluate that and realize that sexual con conduct or excess excessive profanity probably shouldn't be in any book in the schools that children are reading. So, I just wanted to make that to pushing it to August so we can all digest it more. And thank you, Mrs. Krauss, for going through this and all the work that you've done. Uh, it's been a long journey and everybody else who has as well, but especially Mrs. Krauss, thank you for everything you've done on on this policy. Thank you, Mr. Walmer. So, Miss Krauss, I guess, from my understanding, if we did talk about this in

094July, is that going to be second read or still first read? Um, Dr. Bell, if you if you make a if you make a a minor or minute um change, you can go from first read to second read. If you make a major change or a larger impact upon the actual u what you have before you now it would go back to uh a first read again. So it all depends on what you look at if you're changing and we did this once before. We changed a very small part in our discussions on a committee but because it was considered dimminimous. Um that change didn't cause any major uh reconstruction then you could go from the first read on that evening to the second read. Okay. So at this point to me it sounds as

095if there's a a desire to hear about option one. So, can we leave this at first read or do I have to make a motion to send it back to committee? And I'm I'm not sure. I guess I'm not sure if we're moving towards August policy for a discussion on this or the July board meeting. Well, the the discussions you guys have, obviously you're in the discussion mode and I don't want to interrupt you, but from a from a format perspective, um, you have before you a first read. You don't necessarily vote on a first read. It's not needed. You could if you wanted to, but you don't have to. And what you're asking for is either to accept what this is and move it on to a second read or have some further discussion

096of which would take place in one of two areas. Next, the July board meeting or the August committee meeting. So, as I understand that's your request and what you guys as a board are looking the request that you're making to to have the direction Is that correct? Yes. Okay. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. And yeah, going over what the teachers association I would say 99.5% of it the consternation, the fear, you know, the dread is that every single resource would have to be approved by the board or some procedure before being used. Personally, I would never approve of something like that. I'm a teacher myself and I say you have clear policies and teaching is a science and an art and teachers are constantly pulling in resources, you know, off of the fly to respond to

097a particular need of a student depending on their interest or their culture. Um, and I wholeheartedly would support that. I'm not sure where the myth came. Um, I think it originated from a letter that went out last year that we were requesting cataloging of all the every single resource. And if you remember, I stood up and said, you know, I object or, you know, call call to order or privilege with a motion to privilege or whatever it was I had to say to interject to say no, we that did not originate from the board. I personally would never approve of that. We need to create a culture of respect and trust, you know, amongst the school, amongst the teachers and amongst the parents. Set clear policies. As I've always said, clarity is charity. Make it

098clear and then trust the teachers to make those decisions. And that wording is in the policy. Number two, that it would be incumbent upon the teachers to curate those collections, you know, in cooperation with each uh school principal. Um there's no way that you can, you know, catalog every single resource that you come in, but just that there are there are parameters there are parameters to be respected in terms of certain content, you know, being introduced into the school. I have I I cannot see how that would affect um IEPs or the use of EPIC or um anything or or the um idea for you know the individuals at the with um disabilities and education act. I don't see how um minimizing, you know, avoiding sexually explicit material would impact, you know, um the the

099idea or um individual education plan IEP. Um, and then the optin, you know, that goes along also with, you know, teacher evaluations and the Danielson model, you know, that you need to communicate with families about what's going on in the classroom. That's part of the evaluation, too. So, that would just be responding to the needs. I don't think it's any um surprise or controversy that this is a you know a a conservative area but most of our families hold traditional values and that also needs to be respected as part of the culture. you know that there's many different cultures here and you know just have like a baseline um amount of respect that if you know if you're going to you know have some uh content that crosses some lines to you know to get

100some approval for that especially in the older grades you know I think that I think it's real common sense so uh I think it would be good to get some more information I would be open to moving forward with it now or moving it back to committee as you know as everybody wants to do what you know but I really would like for the teachers just to take a deep breath calm down um no one is asking for every single resource to be cataloged before it can be used that would be absurd if we have a discussion in July if it goes back and we have a discussion in July is it possible to see the actual survey and the questions that were asked is that a possibility We can make the request. We didn't

101do it. So So alls we have as far as the is just the generalized feedback of the survey. Yeah. Would you got what I got? Okay. But we don't have the specifics of the questions. Specific question. No. Yeah. No. I mean that that could be a request if that's what you want. Yeah. would be helpful I think in understanding you know how the questions were asked and what the responses were to the questions I think would be very helpful. Yeah. And I would like to know what the procedure is you know like what teachers are expected to report in terms of their curriculum and what resources they're using anyway what Joe can you speak to that like for general curriculum. Yeah. When we do curriculum writing, we use an application called Firefly and we write

102the curriculum in there and then find the supplemental resources to support that through a textbook process like we did with the steels. Uh sometimes it's can be quick, sometimes like steels took three years until we read the curriculum, uh surveyed a number of resources and then brought that to the board for approval. And do teachers have to submit their lesson plans, you know, or or unit plans that we're going to be using um epic and cahoot and different things or or I don't believe so on a regular basis. No. Okay. And Mrs. Joel, I just want to say I appreciate and I thank you for saying what you have said. I think the confusion is 109.1 obviously was library media centers and that was all resources that was clear in that policy all the library

103books. So when this was modeled after at the request of board members of 109.1 and 109 all classroom resources. So there's where the implication came from. I think if we could if we take this back to committee, we could craft some language that would meet your needs as well as I think make the teachers feel a little better at and more clear as to exactly what they're expected to report back to you or to their principles as you said and when that needs to happen. Um, and then the optin opt out policy. You certainly can look at that language if if you so choose to do so there. But I think that's the main confusion because when you look at 1091, it is everything. 109 was mirrored off of that. So option two is all

104classroom resources. And when you say all classroom resources, that's a pretty lengthy list. I have a question. When it comes to um the libraries that are are not part of the curriculum. So, how is how are those books collected? They come from a number of ways and we talked about this in committee. Uh, personally, I'm going to give my story. I started as a sixth grade teacher. So, when I took over for that teacher, I inherited the library. It was probably 200 books. I did not, you know, I did not read all of those books. you kind of adopt those and I brought in books that I collected over the years and add it to that library that I knew as well as if there is a question from a parent or a student about

105questionable content in a book which there was there was a Jurassic Park book when I taught sixth grade had some language in not super offensive but you know for sixth grade it might have been a little touchy it was brought to my attention the book was gone you know that it it it was that easy so Libraries come in that respect. They come in from book fairs. So, uh, back in the day, we used to have book club orders, troll book clubs, if you remember going through school and they got the book orders and then teachers would get free books from the amount of books that the students would purchase and they would build their libraries that way based on Newberry winners and other award winners or special content area. A third way is through

106curriculum. So our wonders series has a lot of level rock level readers that come with that program. They become part of that classroom library too. So it's it's an eclectic group. Um I can't I will never stand here and say every teacher reads every library book that they have in their classroom because of that fact because they may have inherited they may got got them at yard sales. They may have a personal collection got them from another teacher. Um Mrs. Granger tells me she has like 6,000 library books in her room that she has that she would have to go through. So there's a variety of different uh quantities and qualities out there and the teachers do their best and use their professional judgment to keep those books in or out of their personal library

107based on their uh the developmental age of the students. So the the personal libraries in the classroom is basically chosen by the teacher or you know teacher discretion. Yes. And it was brought up at a at a committee meeting uh again about ethics and professionalism. And that's one of the things every new teacher I because I'm in charge of new teacher induction. I know well we take them through with uh attorneys with uh other professionals and make sure they understand the professional code of conduct, ethical behavior and professionalism in making those decisions. That's what we employ them for. That's what they're certified for. That's what they went to school for. We have to trust that they will make those decisions and and well in verse with any guidelines that are in policies as well. I

108feel like we've come I still think we're we're muddying the waters here. I mean, we're talking about sexually explicit material and excessive profanity. And look, I I I hear what you're saying, but when you tell me I'm supposed to trust the teachers and everyone, we all know that there are some that you can't, and I think I've said this before. I had an eighth grader who had to read a book about oral sex. That should never have happened. And that is exactly what we're talking about here. Okay? There was no uh syllabus for me to know that she was required to read that book. and I didn't find out about it until she was already reading the book. There is a problem that there are books like that in the classroom and parents are unaware.

109Mrs. Krauss, I feel like we have come full circle in this conversation again. I could I could say everything I've said for the last 12 months in respect of time and in respect of you. I'm going to ask that we move this um policy discussion to our August policy committee meeting and hash it out again. Even though I don't think any of us want to. Clearly, there is enough constrnation about this. I am not willing to vote on this tonight. That's me personally. Thank you. I I did see I don't think we have to vote, right? It's discussion whether we want to do it or not. I I did see a neighboring school district actually send a first read back to committee today and this discussion we're having isn't just unique to us. So um

110I guess from Mrs. Hobbs, where do we go with this if if we're considering sending it back to committee? So can I ask Mr. Alvin? When when's the end of the first mark period? I want to say around October Halloween, October 30th, 29th that week. I don't have the exact date in front of me, but it's typically what it is. [Music] So, as I said, I need a little help here. Do we just send it back to committee? Is that the wish of the rest of you with Mrs. Hollow's request, or can you give me a direction? So if it goes back to committee, we're looking for the survey. We're looking for more discussions and I Mr. Mr. Ley mentioned hearing more about option one. Option one. Okay. And and there were administrative guidelines that

111uh Dr. Bill and Mr. Alvin had put together that would have gone with option one. Yeah. Does it have to be in August? Could it be in the July? We don't have a July. Well, the July board meeting. Yeah. Um I think it discussion we can have a discussion. I think it's probably going to be lengthy. I mean, tonight we've spent quite a bit of time on it, which is good. I It's good to hear from everybody. But that those are the options. We either wait till the beginning of August or we bring it forward at at this time in the agenda in July. Goes to committee. Then the committee could come back to the board. And I have a question. So a big question, it seems to me a big question that the teachers

112have is what they're expected how and what they're expected to report in terms of their classroom uh resources. Is that something administrative? Is that something that could be decided amongst the administration and doesn't really concern the board? I I think we I think we've come up with several questions tonight that I'd like to meet with you in the in the next week or so just so we can try to summarize what what was asked here and see what we can do. Can you also I guess ask Mr. Walmart. I think he had a question on the optin. maybe what he would like to see review the opt review the opt there there's an opt in and I know one of the comments from one of the teachers or more of the teachers was that I

113guess everything else are opt outs that I I gathered from it that the optin forms would be more more work for the teachers because they would be collecting them from the concern was the yeah the logistics collecting monitoring and making And then every year doing that and we have to do it for every class. There's maybe that. But with that said, um maybe based on the suggestion from the teachers, maybe we should look more at the opt out. My thoughts on the optin when I read the policy was that it was only necessary if there was questionable content in the book. That was what I understood. Huh. That was what I understood also. Yeah. So to me that would seem that that would only be necessary if in fact the book had something in it

114that was somewhat questionable which I feel very strongly it's important to have the optin because how else would the parent know that that content is actually in that book because if it's an opt out option nobody has to tell the parent that the parent has to find that out. So, I feel very strongly that the opt-in is actually not that much work. That it's actually the responsibility of the teacher if they're going to teach or have a student read a book that has somewhat questionable content to inform the parent that that is in there and give the parent the opportunity to make that decision whether they want their child to read that book or not. And I certainly think that could be addressed. We fine to that language a little bit more. uh maybe tied

115back to a syllabus, tied back to the word required reading personal libraries perhaps. Um but in a personal library in the classroom, how do those books get distributed to the students? Like they would just pick the book up and want to read it. It'd be I would imagine most times self- selected at the elementary level. They might be uh divided out by reading level. So a teacher might say you need you can pick any book but you have to book pick a book from level three level four type of uh thing. At the older levels it would be a bookshelf. That's how I ran it in my my sixth grade classroom. It was it was open to any students because you want them to find a book that they engage in and then try to

116spark that love of reading. Okay. So which is important because there has to be a lot of variety in order for kids to find what they are interested in. But again, personally myself, I feel like that's also another reason why it's important to have specific policy def definitions of what is appropriate and what isn't appropriate so that there are guidelines for the teachers to know this book I can have in my library and this book I can't have in my library or I shouldn't have in my library. And like I said, if there comes a point, such as my example with the Jurassic Park book, I don't know if it's 100% guaranteed realistic that every teacher knows everything and every book in their room. So if something's brought to the teacher's attention, we trust that

117teacher, right? Uh as Mrs. Plank's example, that book's no longer there. I don't know. I can't speak for the teacher why it was there in the first place or how it got there or anything like that. Teacher was made aware of it. It's gone. was in in in a in a personal library. So that's how we would handle those situations. Uh it's unfortunate when those rare situations happen, but we trust our teachers to make those decisions and act on them. And that's actually also where the opportunity for the complaint to be filed so it can be made aware. Perfectly, you know, so um that's important too. Um I just think that sometimes having a defined um policy is helpful in you know setting those sort of parameters of what is and what is not considered

118and I think the teachers would wholeheartedly agree they appreciate all the guidelines. So when a book is brought that might be questionable too Sally brings a book and hey this has this in and they can say oh you're right that's in the guidelines I'm going to take that book we're not going to worry about that anymore choose another book I believe I heard Mrs. Plank's uh comments regard and I think I heard her say that the book in question was required reading not optional not but but required uh I'd like to have a clarification from that if Mrs. Plank is on the board or still on the phone call uh to um to consider that that question. Was it required reading for all the students in that class? Yes, I believe it was required reading.

119Required reading for all the students or for your daughter? No, I believe it was required reading. It was an um you know an advanced ELA class. And I I think when you know we had originally talked about it, one of the comments that was made was because she was in an advanced ELA class that you know she could handle um that particular reading level. But my argument would be okay well that may be the case but I don't I don't want my eighth grader you know reading about oral sex in detail. Well, what I can what I can say is when it was brought to my attention that was not referred to me was not a required read for all students. There was limited amounts of books. I think there was only one I remember

120it. So that's how I remember it and that was communicated to me by the teacher. Sorry, I can't hear what he's saying. I I believe to summarize the reading assignment was required whatever that particular uh teacher had asked of that reading lesson but the book was self- selected at that particular reading level. It was labeled as a suggested read suggested reader at that reading at the reading level that she was recommended to but she chose the book. That's how that's how it was explained. So, I kind of feel like with the this is I mean really I mean look this is this is what we're arguing about. The fact of the matter is there was a book that was listed as a book that she was supposed to read or that she could choose to

121read whichever it was. That's really hardly the point here. The point is is that that book was one that was selected for her to read as an eighth grader that detailed sexually explicit material. That is the problem. But I was supposed to trust the teacher. That wouldn't have been my choice if I was given the choice to do the research and on the book myself. And that's what I'm saying. I needed that information so that I as a parent could make that choice. So it seems to maybe I'm not understanding correctly, but go ahead. Go ahead, Mr. Honor. Yeah, I was just going to say if all the guidelines in this policy are followed, there should be no reason for an opt in or out opt out policy. And I I wouldn't say that I'm

122for an read the comments uh from some of the teachers that said it it is a lot of work to do and I believe it is. I'd rather have our great teachers teaching rather than handing out and collecting papers. But as I say, if all the guidelines are followed, there shouldn't be any need for an opt-in or opt out. There should be no need for it. So I actually agree with that wholeheartedly. So would the optin would the optin also protect the teachers as well? Um because the parents are agreeing to that book and would that eliminate some of the questions as well or some of the concerns? Yeah, I I I believe if it's a required reading, if it's a novel that everyone's going to read, it would be in a syllabus if they

123said only to get approved and or a permission slip say, "Hey, we're going to read this book. It has some of this content." And I did that actually again in sixth grade when we did a Holocaust unit. So I thought some of the content was sensitive for that um one of the particular books we were reading and we got permission slips for that book as well because we were requiring them to read that particular book but there was always alternatives and choices which are I think all of our teachers provide and again if there is something outside of those guidelines that comes to the teachers attention once again they'll the teachers will pull that book and it will not be available to students in the future but I I just heard correctly. Mrs. Plank and

124Mr. Walmer, I think agreed on the opt-in. So, it would go back to committee and we'd have to redo the opt-in portion of it and then come back with updates. Yes. Okay. So, that'll that'll be August then for the committee meeting. Um, so, Mrs. Hobs, what do we do in terms of agenda for this? Does 109 just stay at First Street? If we're going to answer everybody's questions in August, and I'm not going to be here, but I know you're going to be on the phone. I know you're going to be calling in. Um, we we have to work to get a series of questions completed, uh, meaning responses to the questions that I've heard tonight. Mhm. Uh because there's been a lot and that's what we'll have to do administratively to get that information

125together and through you as the as the chair you can distribute that information from an agenda standpoint there's in July that I would recommend that that's pulled because you're not going to have a discussion in July. Okay. And there'll be no there'll be no policies in July because we have no meeting in July, right? So you could okay the the July board meeting since this is now you could you could look at the 802 as your final. Okay. And then take your final vote. Okay. Thank you everyone for your comments tonight. And again, thanks to the the teachers for putting together answers to that survey. It's greatly appreciated. Thank you, Mr. Albert. Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Miss Cross. All right. Nothing under miscellaneous agenda items. Uh, payment of the bills. Uh, do I have

126recommendation for approval for the payment of the bills attached? So, moved. So, moved. Do you have a second? Second. Any comments, questions? Actually, I have a question if I could. Sure. Go ahead. Uh, we're making uh it looks like a one-time payment to Rob and Brewer for $7,500, which is the maximum amount um for the contract. It appeared to me from the contract that we were making those payments monthly as there was a submission of contractor time. I guess coincidentally um she put in exactly 250 hours since we're paying the maximum amount. So I'd like to see um that submission of contractor time. And I guess I would ask a question as to why the contract's written the way it is if we're only ever making a one-time payment of the maximum amount. Okay, we'll

127get that information. Um, my only comment is is my normal is uh this this pay cycle $110,414.74 cents to charter schools. Thank you, Mr. Lady. Welcome. I will miss that come December. I'm going to miss that, too. You can zoom in. You can watch us. I will be watching. All right. Do we have uh any other comments, questions? Roll call, please. Mrs. Cross. Yes. M Jalal? Yes. Mrs. Hollow? Yes. Mr. Lady? Hi. Mr. Lustik. Yes. Mrs. Plank. Yes. Mr. Walmer? Yes. Michelle Cobber? Yes. Mr. Wigle? Yes. Thank you. Motion carries. All right. Nothing under old business or new business. I would just say uh congratulations Mr. Alvin. Again, come July 1, you will be the new uh assistant superintendent. So, next time we see you, you'll have a new touch. Um general information, the next

128school board meetings, uh there's no curriculum or extracurricular meeting in July and no business operations meeting in July. No policy committee in July. The next school board meeting will be 7:15 2025 at 7 p.m. Do you have a motion to adjourn? Second. Thank you all.