001by member bill day a compilation of reports for the past 10 years is enclosed and principal andrea spaz will present very briefly to provide some context as she is a school psychologist by training evening everyone hello miss boss hi good to be here can you hear me okay okay all right so i've been asked to speak a little bit about bullying this evening um as ms picard said i have background as a school psychologist and i can speak to a little bit about adolescence and brain development and have some information i can share there's been some questions about our numbers at the middle school in terms of bullying so i can speak to that as well so in terms of an overview we do have some slides up here that you can reference um bullying
002does most often occur as a repeated behavior so this is not a one-time single incident between the bully or the cyber bully and the offender this is a pervasive serious and persistent matter to be classified as bullying it's not just a one-time event so that's important to know that definition of bullying there's also a rhode island state definition of bullying and i want to review that with you this evening and this is the use by one or more students of a written verbal or electronic expression or a physical act or gesture or any combination thereof directed at a student that does any of the following it could cause physical or emotional harm to the student or damage to the student's property it places the student in reasonable fear or harm to himself or herself or
003damage to his or her property it creates an intimidating threatening hostile or abusive environment for the student educationally it infringes on the rights of the student to participate in school related activities and it's also considered materially and substantially disruptive to the educational process and the orderly operation of a school building so it could be any of those acts or a combination thereof [Music] so let's talk a little bit about why we see bullying tend to peak during middle school okay so we have developmental stages that students are going through during this time we know research tells us that our brains continue to mature and develop all throughout adolescence and even early adulthood some studies tell us you know our brains are not fully developed until we're 25 years old so just think about a middle
004school student adolescent and what their brain development is going through that's a critical stage for them they're starting to learn these skills but they're also learning by trial and error okay we're also teaching them important skills to employ during this time and they're often relying on adults to help them with these skills there and we help compensate and help support them in that area so there's some major developmental things happening in the brain for students during this time our prefrontal cortex is developing prefrontal cortex i'm going to get a little uh sciency on you but that's really important in terms of the decisions students make that's when our our prefrontal cortex is developing during adolescence and early adulthood and this really comes into play with decision making it comes into play with being able to
005control our responses it's something called response inhibition that's our ability to think before we speak and think before we act these are critical things when it comes to bullying right to be able to weigh decisions before us and just so just think about how this is still developing in our middle schoolers um middle school it's a time of big transition right our students are used to our smaller elementary schools i know some of our elementary schools are larger than others but then they're coming to the big high school where all of our elementary schools converge there's a lot of social needs that come with that that's a big shift for our students to endure that transition um similarly they're forming new friend groups because now they're interacting with students from other schools they're also establishing
006who they are as an individual their personal identity is forming they're figuring out who they are what their interests are where they fit in socially and because of that they're also more easily influenced by peers and think about this in middle school they may not have some of the same exposures as a high school student to learning how to cope with these peer influences um they're also starting to become a little bit more independent any of you who have a middle schooler might see that through some pushback and other things but they are becoming more independent and along with that comes many positive things as well but this can also impact um why we see some increases in bullying and then also mood and behavior changes occur during this time during middle years um there's
007a lot going on social emotionally mood behavior these all come into play when it comes to bullying so we you know it's also important that we know that our middle schoolers have less experiencing employee employing some of these skills i do want you to be aware that we have a bullying form on our character district website it's on our main page it's linked here in the slides our schools do provide an inform parents and students about this bullying reporting form so whenever there's an alleged bullying incident they're made aware that this form exists and that they have the choice to complete it or not there's many times students do not or parents do not choose to submit a form because they rely on the interventions that we have in place maybe the results of the
008of the investigation don't warrant further reporting um and they don't feel like it determines the category of the alleged incident to to further report also know that sometimes you don't see a bullying form completed because we try to employ preventive strategies and resolution strategies so i can speak to the high school we have something called conflict resolution and mediation um i'm sure you've heard the term mediation before and mediation can be done um peer to peer appear at a teacher um it's when a trained person um i've done a lot of mediation with students sits in front of two part two bodies and tries to come to a common solution so that an incident doesn't maybe turn into a bullying incident maybe there's some um conflicts occurring and so we want to get ahead of
009it we want to get those two parties in a room to try to solve it as smoothly as possible so that they can prevent any type of something that could escalate into a bullying situation um again conflict resolution is something we teach we might act out some role playing scenarios like if you were ever faced with with this situation how could you handle it so as it to not turn into a bullying type of situation um and then again strategies to diffuse uh situations strategies to you know do simple things like walk away from a situation or go tell a trusted adult uh these are all important preventative measures that may result in a bullying form not being completed because there's other interventions in place so that's just a really quick summary of um you
010know why we might see some increase in bullying in the middle school years does anyone have any questions yes miss andrea chambers was great um does mediation usually work with the kids or do they continue to hold grudges or continue yeah it really depends on the situation um each obviously each individual situation is unique um it's a great preventative strategy to get ahead of it before it becomes worse um and you know oftentimes what i find is that giving students the opportunity to talk it out with one another really helps resolve so many issues and again this is not only student to student but it could be student and an adult um as well but it's a really effective strategy mediation in general and defusing conflict it gives people the opportunity to be heard and
011sometimes that's all they really want is just for the other party to feel like they're valued and listened to they might not agree right but they at least have been heard and that's a big part of it um in terms of the mediation oh sorry in terms of the mediation how how long has that approach been implemented and is there a body of data that hasn't been implemented long enough to track some data around it that's a really good question um you know i wouldn't say i have specific data that i that um in terms of us as tracking like this case has you know this mediation case was successful um and it's just something i know historically we've we've been doing as a practice at least when i started as assistant principal six years
012ago um this is my first year as principal in the building but six years ago when i was assistant um it's a practice that myself and the principal at the time employed our deans employ it um in terms of hard numbers i don't have those right before you yeah mr luzon yeah how much would you say it's increased due to technology oh in terms of bullying yeah you know there's social media plays a big part that's for sure um you know i'd have to look at national data to be able to really speak to to that but have we seen it here we do yeah yeah we see the impact of social media absolutely yep i'm sorry mr day and then mr callahan thank you excuse me goldie goldie you just one second you can
013have it i'll let you know good mr day i was expecting to hear a report on how the middle school was successful and not successful in turning around what what the report that i asked for which had a high number of bullying situations no this didn't tell me anything no mrs onions here well i gotta say this was nice nice and nice and flowery and fluffy and everything else but you know uh i wanted i was specifically concerned about the high numbers uh at the time when of the report that i got uh this report we sent to the state is this all the only thing we sent to the state do we we don't we don't follow it up with a letter or something to say that we've had success in turning around a
014certain percentage of students uh you know i i this to me is is not anything that that i can go back to the community and say that we've done to to minimize bullying it it tells me you know i when you look at some of the significant issues in schools throughout the united states 99 of it goes right back to bullying from school shootings to to to suicides and stuff like that and and i was expecting to hear hear what we were doing and not not telling me what i already knew maybe maybe the people in this table didn't didn't know no no the facts but i did so i i i have one other one other concern so if i could just mr you requested that we we'd be able to talk about the
015bullying report i just said miss father's going to provide some context over so we were all calibrated on what we have for bullying overall the big picture so i also have uh director tatro and principal zenion here who uh mr zenion if you would like to speak directly about the middle school but to your point the state does not require us to talk about what uh the success rate is or isn't it asks us to say how many incidents are reported how many actual bullies are found from those incidents and yes there are successes to share that um and maybe i was unclear about the ask but first we just wanted to give context but we're here to talk about whatever you need to talk about as it relates to bullying it's always going to
016be a topic of concern which is why there's state regulation allow it around it um middle school ages are difficult but we do think that there are several strategies and i'm happy to have mrs annie and come up to talk about specifically the middle school we only asked miss boss to present first because she's the trained school psychologist just to provide some context well if i may i think that it would behoove us if we're successful because the state is only going to use these things against you they're going to come out and report somewhere along the line that compared to the i don't know foster gloucester we're at the bottom of the list as far as a number of bullying or the top of the list i should say and and i i think
017that it would behoove us even though it's not required to to to follow up with with with some justifications of of what we not justification but incidents of where we've we've done done and made improvements over over previous years i mean this ten-year thing here is is great but when you have to report report immediately the state is not going to go back 10 years they're going to they're going to concentrate on the first or second i know hey i have no confidence in the state of rhode island being friendly to to any school district especially cheruhol we get splashed all over the newspapers when something is uh to the dislike of of somebody so uh if if mr zhenyan can uh can explain why there was been a there's a spike here with the
018i look i somehow i misplaced the paper that i got that i know that i had gotten that had had them had this very high very high uh when i asked for two meetings ago so uh maybe there's a reason that that that we're having this problem maybe he's going to turn around to me those are the five reasons that it's it spikes at the middle of school yeah and their data is it it's calibrated based on what you've seen that's why we gave you um we went all the way back to 11 12 so you could take a look at the trend but if misses any if you want to come up and just share and i agree with you yesterday there are definitely successes and often times we find you know out of
019the eight reports there were three bullet incidents actually that were actually um allegations that were bullying hello i'm greg zane and prince of my childhood middle school so um one thing that the middle school does that i'm not sure if the rest of the district does or i'm pretty sure the rest of the state does not do is um every time a parent or student mentions bullying to us we give them the definition of what bullying is and then we give them the form so we don't um sugarcoat it we don't hide from it um about eight years ago when the new form came out and the reporting came out john anderson our attorney who was still our attorney made the recommendation that if someone mentions bullying you should give them the form and that's
020been instilled in the staff in the middle school i have it on my desktop and anytime i get an email from a parent and the word bullying's in it i respond by saying you know this is the definition of bullying and here's the form if you feel um your child is being bullied please fill it out so that's why we probably have a higher number um and then when we do get bullying reports we ask if um it involves more than one student that they put one on each form because they're that can become part of a confidential um legal process so i don't like more than one student's name on a legal form so that's another reason why my numbers may be higher i also have them a thousand students most middle schools have
021around 600 i believe we're the fourth largest middle school in the state so i would expect our numbers to be a little bit higher based on just our the size and then um i will say that um covet has not made things easier or better and um if you watch the nightly news i'm pretty sure you cannot watch the news without seeing um a brawl at our school committee meeting in congress on our airplane and i think our children are modern our adults so we have some work to do on our behaviors um we are not alone but we don't hide from it at our home middle school we never have i i appreciate that and this this is this is what i want to hear the things that you know i did not hear
022previously tonight that you you you also have a form you ask of everyone who mentions that word to fill out a form this is not something that was related to relate earlier in this evening so you know i can understand that and i combine it i i really appreciate the job you're doing over there i wish i had the confidence and and and some of the other administrators here that i have in you as a principal i'll say that right here publicly because i think you're doing a hell of a job over there and and i applaud you but i did all i wanted to know is what the reason was so i mean you explained the reason in very good terms so i will also say that some of the mediation practices that mrs
023spa spoke about we have taken from the high school our guidance counselors will um try to mediate with students we do get parent permission to mediate because we're point two kids that may not necessarily like each other in the same room so we do request parent permission we don't always get it when we do get it we do try to mediate i will also say that um if the budget is approved the um the return of a 0.5 dean will be helpful in the middle school we are now operating with one dean so um when the building was moved to the model of um one principle one assistant principal it was with the motto of two deans we currently have one principle one assistant principal and one dean um if you look at most middle
024schools in the state that are smaller than us they have more support than that if you look at middle schools that are our size or larger they they tend to have more than what we have so i think the 0.5 dean if um if it goes into place will be helpful because um there are some preventative actions that are are harder to take when you have less staff could i ask one more question yes and then mr callahan i notice here that the middle school i mean high school career check has numbers here uh i i've heard this many times and i certainly don't agree with it but this doesn't tell me whether these incidents of bullying happen at the career in tech building or they happened in the high school and you know there
025are two separate buildings they they have two separate administrators that i i i hope that mr auth doesn't have to have to confer with the with the principle of the high school that they deal with bullying i i i don't i don't understand why i don't know whether they happened in the high school or where they happened in a career in tech builder because there are two different two different work related situations here one is where kids are working hands on and stuff like this and automotive and and some of the other trades over there uh and and it might be just something over over he was said in jess that was misconstrued as bullying in the career in tech atmosphere so so character high school and uh charter tech there's actually considered one school
026it's one school code um and actually andrea is the principal of the entire school director auth is the director of the ctc programming pathway but mispas is the principal to all students whether it's ctc or because we have over 700 students in ctc so she oversees as the principal um where charitable tech is not considered a separate school because it's the same school code as travel high school for mr os responsibility he actually reports directly to me and his responsibility is to the pathway programs some while yes majority of our programs live in the ctc uh building there are also ctc um like our business uh early childhood or over in the main high school so yes while there's a separation of the two buildings it's one high school so um director author is not
027not paid as a principal nor is he coded that way but he is a direct support to the spot who oversees all operations at the high school can miss bass could you answer mr day's question about does mr oth have to confer with you if he has a student issue is he um well our deans do investigate the bullying cases that take place at terre haute tech and we'd be able to go back and look to see where the incident took place um and we like ms picard said we consider ourselves one building director off and i work interchangeably throughout every day so you work as a team as a team 100 thank you mr day good i'm fine okay thank you uh mr callahan and then mr ligouri thank you for waiting mr callahan
028yeah no no problem uh thank you both for being here tonight uh can you clarify incidents versus bullying on the uh the count right now yeah so the instance is um when it's reported so um when it's reported it's considered an incident and then when you um when you look into it and investigate it you then have to document whether or not that incident is some is technically bullying or does it fall under harassment or something else okay so okay thank you for clarifying that uh follow up on this when i you know the data's really interesting i appreciate um you providing it to us like this uh when i look at the amount of bullying that's taking place in first semester 21 22 it's not a surprising number it's very consistent with from previous
029years um in fact it's much lower than a number of years in our past but the incidence rate specifically at the middle school is much much higher and i guess this gets to your comments earlier about kids coming back and dealing with you know coming out of a pandemic and so on um i guess the the striking data point in this is second semester 2021. zero uh for incidents and for for bullying but obviously that's that's due to dl so so um second semester uh you're talking this um last year yeah second semester 2021 so you're um you were looking at approximately a thousand students which approximately we started the year with [Music] in person which was pretty impressive when most middle schools didn't open with anyone in person right but you still have to
030remember we had about 230 that were not in person and then um we um took a very unique approach to it um our superintendent gave us the leeway or the liberty to um let kids in at a natural break and um i chose as the principal the building not to do that and i let kids back in within 48 hours of the request if we could make it happen so um we had an influx of kids coming in um throughout the year and then when we had spikes which we did have in that time period of covet um you had you had parents requesting to um dl so they would dl and then two or three weeks later they would request to be in person again and um me and all my wisdom um decided
031that i was gonna allow that because i really wanted kids in the building so but it definitely caused our um up and down and some seesaw effect of on behaviors in the building because you have kids coming and going yeah i'd also like to just add that those middle school years are so critical too for students to be here at school in person learning those social skills learning from trial and error learning from interacting with one another and their peers and those students who were distance learning for an extended period of time you're likely going to see some repercussions from that you're likely going to see um you know a difficulty acclimating back into the building that can likely happen because they haven't had those exposures those opportunities to learn um through their peers through
032uh corrective feedback from adults thank you i guess i sorry no so when i'm looking at this 1920s second semester it's you know your total incidents and bullies is one and one first semester 2021 it's three and two and then it's zero zero and then it's now back to kind of historic numbers um i mean is there anything in that performance timer i mean that's those are outstanding numbers to have is there anything that can be learned from that that we can then translate going forward to help us avoid you know incidents occurring and then them being egregious enough to be classified as bullying that's a tough question i know but i'm just saying that there's a lot to unpack in those numbers so i think it helps if you're um aggressive when you're dealing
033with it i think um if you can get in front of it it helps i also think um when you um with social media you can see problems coming so if you can try to head them off the problem with social media is um we can't keep up with it i mean with you know some of the social media they're currently using in 20 minutes it's gone so it's very hard to track down or to figure out exactly what happened or who said what or you know um you know the rumor no starts or the claims are made and to verify what is truly happening can become an issue and i think we've seen a little more um of their issues around social media this year with um kids became very um tech savvy during
034covet too because they were um many of our students were not allowed out of their houses or they had to be with their immediate families so they figured out ways to communicate with um their peers and through technology and that um communication has continued even when we're back in person thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you uh mr glory go ahead yeah thank you both um i guess my take on this and i think i think an important thing here that maybe to some degree addresses what mr day says but we don't know the numbers from any other school in the state so before i would even raise a concern i'd like to see where we stand within the state but i suspect it's good and you know i think mrs spa
035is your background on developmental stages i do think that's important because you know we had kids out for basically two years that were fourth fifth sixth graders and re-entered the middle school which is developmentally the most awkward time in anyone's life and i think to see eight incidences only three of which were founded is actually remarkably good as opposed to remarkably bad and again i'd like to see other data and as mentioned mrs ennion we are a very large school but um i can't think of a more dangerous environment to re-engage in and haven't been out for two years at like i said these you know fourth graders who are today's sixth graders they got kicked out so i think it's remarkable i think uh at the high school regardless if it's in the tech
036school or not by my calculation in the last three academic years there's been i think three founded incidences of bullying now i would have just guessed there would be a lot more so i'm very very pleased to see that and whatever effort you guys are making i hope you continue to do those thank you [Music] thank you goldie do you still want to have a do you you have a chance now to speak thank you for waiting okay yeah goldie williams richmond i got told by a parent that there's a pervasive amount of bullying in the middle school and then and when my son was my youngest son was in the middle school he had to help his friends defeat the bully like not i mean help with the bullying and then he would get
037bullied and then my son who graduated from the rise program in 2017 he was bullied on a daily basis from 2016 to 2017. nobody did anything and also mrs garlick from the rise program bullied him and nobody did anything about it did you ever report it to anyone goldie he i didn't find out until two years after he graduated well that's like that's sort of hard for us to for the you know administer for the teachers but i know um yes ms chambers yeah i would just like to suggest based on what the good information that you just heard that if they if these parents are out there and telling you and sharing with you the pervasiveness of bullying let them know that there is an avenue where they can report it to the principal
038and they will do something about it there's a form to fill out also um this kit kids have been telling me too students i mean anybody anybody apparently can communicate administration correct and they can fill out a form and that will be the right place to do it and you know that now so you can share that information with them but i want to know how many kids are bullied that are special needs that information wouldn't be available in this kind of data form but sorry but a lot of kids who are special needs get bullied thank you you're welcome yes ma'am would you like to speak yes you're welcome hi my name is elaine ritchie i am a resident of charlestown i've lived here all my life i have a daughter who's a sixth
039grader in the middle school and i have a daughter who's a junior in the high school and i just want to say thank you and whatever my comments are i i hope are not found to be defensive um but i just want to start off by saying that when a student comes to either the middle school or high school with something that they feel is deemed as bullying i i would hope everyone would know that that would not have been the first time this child had felt this way and just as in here it says causes physical or emotional harm so i'm not sure who is indicating whether a student is founded to be bullied or not bullied um and i'm going to speak on two issues one i believe my daughter was a sixth
040grader that was found to be as one of those incidents um and i don't know maybe it was not because this was just like two weeks ago um i just want i'm not sure where the forum is to speak on this i had met with um gina picard and the principal of the middle school and i was very disappointed from that meeting not two of which i'm speaking to either of them but just on the system and protocols which i kept hearing we are bound by the state protocols and rules i was looking at the state protocols and what can be done and honestly i felt they were very vague and i felt they were they could have been interpreted to have some discipline or action by the school which was not done um in
041which i understand that as a parent it's not my child that's that it's not my right to know what's happening to that child but i do know when the child is back in the classroom my child was threatened um that a child was going to um get her after school and beat her up and bring a weapon to school and stab her with it and that child was put back in the classroom two days later he was founded unfounded and which i'm extremely grateful this child did not mean to bring a knife to school and stab my child but where's the discipline where's the discipline allowing the student to come back in school i mean i know it's been a while since i graduated high school but i i just when you threaten someone essentially
042with their life to be you know basically a slab on the risk and i kept hearing that well the state doesn't allow us to keep us a child out of school so one i was very disappointed in that and i had to keep my own child home because i wanted to separate separate them in school because the only alternative was for my child to have a body garden in school or from my child to disrupt her classes and to change classes and i appreciate the safety protocols that were put into effect to have that happen but i didn't feel like my daughter needed to make those changes um so at that time i was never offered a bullying report um and i'm sure this was way beyond bullying but i was never offered a bullying
043report and i was never offered to speak to the resource officer so i did inform gina bacard and the middle school principal that i would be going my only option was to then go to the richmond police department and they said they could not inform me not to do that but not once did they say i could speak with a resource officer i went to the richmond police department right after that and the very first question they asked me was did they um have you speak to the resource officer and i said no i was not given that as an option so i followed the police report um so i did do that so i understand that maybe all of your hands are tied and we are not able to discipline students for making harsh
044accusations or threats against other students but i think that is a problem and i think that is enabling bad behavior to continue um i also want to mention that my child um a couple days before this happened on a monday the friday before i went to mr zanyan with a couple of students because this kid has been um disrupting um their classroom activities over and over again and was told there was nothing they could do now at one time when they offered a bullying report um which on here it clearly states here disrupting the education process and um from happening from happening so i just want to make that no also i know of other students that also when they go to um report a bullying instance they're told that's not bullying which i don't
045know how anyone can deem that they were not emotionally harmed or and were not in a reasonable fear fear of being harmed to themselves so i'm not sure who's making those judgments calls for these students um and now i want to talk about unfortunately my child who's now in the high school my other child um just a couple days ago um was being harassed by students um as a sexual nature for um sexual orientation um and basically my daughter and her um girlfriend were basically dismissed no bullying report was filed nor was i um called as a parent um to talk about this they were told that they were going to talk to the students so i feel the bullying reports and the incidents might be higher than they're actually being reported because students are
046being told this is not bullying but do you want to fill out a report first of all it takes a lot for a student to go to someone to ask for help and to reach out and they are being told this is not bullying um so as a parent that was really hard to hear and it's really um i just feel it's unacceptable and i and i understand cobit is an issue i feel like covet is used as an excuse and i feel like mediation is an excuse of like a very low thing to solve a problem i feel like we need better action plans to actually help these students whether it be middle schoolers high schoolers because middle schoolers become bad high schoolers bullying does not stop bullying especially when you're based when you're
047not really doing anything to prevent this from happening again but besides having conversations um and if if um people are if kids are not reporting then how do you ever have a first incident how do you have multiple incidents to show there's a problem so i feel it is a problem um and i'm trying to think of so much i wanted to say but um i might be forgetting things but i want to say thank you for listening to me um i hope that we can make changes um not only for my children but everyone's children's and it's our community and our kids grow up to be citizens and i feel like parents have to be responsible and i as a parent you know like i said with my high schooler i was never called
048i was never informed um and this just happened two days ago and i looked and it said i'm a parent should be notified in 24 hours but babies basically they were not they did not fill out a report and i know it sounds good to say oh you know to a child you can fill out a report but what what high schooler if they're if they're feeling diminished and they're feeling like you shouldn't be here it took a lot for them to go there they're not going to fill out a report so i feel like these numbers might be a little low and i feel like we need to have action instead of just making excuses on why we are in this situation because even if our numbers are the lowest in the state they
049should be lower we should not tolerate it this is not kids being ignored this is not kids not being like these kids are being bullied they're made to feel like they um like they're not safe it's just it's just wrong it's on it's on whether where they come from their race their sexual orientation their gender their religion whatever it is it's happening in our schools and the school knows about it and the kids are being brushed off this is not bullying i was thinking to myself do i not know what bullying means i was looking it up before i came here and i had written something but you know what it was presented here it was presented here i was thinking that maybe because my child didn't get stabbed maybe because my child wasn't beaten
050up that this wasn't bullying so thank you for your time um thank you for everything that you do hello hi my name is betsy alvarez and i'm speaking today as a parent i am also a teacher here but i'm a parent first i'm from hopkinton rhode island um elaine's actually my sister so i had you know this is actually really concerning and i want to start off by saying this is a pre-covet problem my son is a 7th grader at terre hall middle school and in fifth grade we filled out bullying reports they were dismissed and then we went dl we had issues this year i had my husband deal with it because i didn't feel like i was really being seen as an educator my son does not take the bus it's not just
051in the school i'm fortunate enough to be able to drive him to school we started off with the bus even though last year he had a hate crime on the bus which zenian did deal with but my husband my my husband is mexican and my son is mexican-american is very proud about that he no longer wears his mexican garb to school he's singled out he does not take the bus anymore because of things that were said i said to my son we need to fill out a bullying war i'm an educator i know what has to be done he said mom they're not going to do anything about it they never do anything about it my husband said don't worry about it we have an option you go to school he walks to your classroom
052you bring him home at the end of the day he gets here some days at 6 30 with me not to take the bus because of the problems that transitioned from bus to school continual problems in the classroom my husband brought him in mr zenyon kicked my husband out of the middle school my husband then walked over to picard's office mrs picard did talk with my husband and son [Music] but point blank said to him my son what you're describing is not bullying that evening i come home i say to my son we still need to fill out the forms i don't want to fill out the forms mom because they're not going to do anything it's a waste of my time so these incident reports that we're talking about are very low because kids
053don't want to report year three in the middle school from an educator family knowing what we have to do my son broke down a month later mom they're still bothering me they're still bothering me i felt the report no i can't do it we allowed him not to do it against my better judgment the problem is huge and it is concerning to me because now it's my son my nieces having problems we grew up here my family we chose to move here my whole family chose to move here we have great education we have great educators but unfortunately this bullying is a problem when just going back i just made a note when my bullet the bullying report my son from fifth grade we were never told that it was just harassment we were just
054said it was not bullying something has to be done when with this problem and this is just one family one family three incidents or multiple instances race threat threat and sexual orientation is a huge problem in our community i thank you for your time thank you any comments miss juice tea um i think it's important and certainly i'm sure all of you won't address those all for the prime secret families too in public but certainly will be followed up on um i think it's important though for the community to understand what remedies are available to you because my husband is an educator and if they're their children now he's in he's with little kids so it's not as big of an issue but when he had older kids um he would often say to me
055like there's there's not much i can do there's not much i can do i know this is a problem we're doing everything in our power to work with this child to keep this child um contained and to help this child work through their own issues um but could you walk us through exactly what what are the remediations um if you have a child who is disruptive or a child who's bullying because it's not as easy as and i don't think you have the power to remove them from the school or even the classroom and i think that is a very difficult thing that the state is putting into place but i think most of us parents don't really understand that can you speak to that so yes we are a public school so you can't
056just remove students completely from the school system um some of the things that we can do uh one easy one is a safety plan but typically that happens for the person who feels like they are the victim to mr spa's point mrs annie's point oftentimes there it there are incidents that happen and they're unkind obscene um or they can even be harassment or it can be uh threat of violence things happen there's incidents but there but bullying has a very specific state regulation around it so it may not be bullying sometimes and that's why the definition is important it has to be pervasive so it's over a series of incidents um that someone becomes a target so let's for example if it's random and then there's multiple people and it's not necessarily one person that
057wouldn't qualify as bullying but it's an important incident that's taken care of it's serious um and obviously we have a court of conduct the state allows up to 10 suspensions for any individual regardless that's it total so once a student has been suspended up to 10 times there is no uh they cannot be and that includes in-school suspension not just uh out-of-school suspension when you remove a child from their environment you're already providing an alternate placement so um yes both the the victim and the aggressor have rights so with the victim oftentimes we try to if we can remove the situation and and move pods classes uh to alleviate we put uh we make all teachers aware of the information we provide the social workers if a lot of the parents get permission to mediate
058among the um the young people who have the conversation of concern we safety contract with the aggressors and with victims to see what help that they were looking for sometimes um everyone wants it a little bit differently at the middle school age the parent would take the lead on that safety but it would be for the person who feels like they want to be protected um every parent has the right to advocate for their own child but they cannot provide the administration to say this is where i want to happen to student x so it becomes i mean i'm a parent as well it's very difficult when your child is feeling um by having and it's happened to them it's take but it's all taken very seriously but qualifying as building is just under the
059state regulation but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be taken seriously and then consequences provided it may not everyone doesn't know i can't go into anyone's personal or all of the history of the background but every incident is different every case is different every student and family incident is different um and i do think that i have full faith in our administration and they're really thoughtful about how they handle they use their deans their teachers um we as you know in our esta plan it's becoming more pervasive all along being just kind right we're seeing that that lack of kindness across um the nation so we have a lot of um supports built in to increase our our skill sets and advisory to be able to teach our students you know how do we how
060do we deal with difficult situations how do we cope how do we how do we um tell somebody i don't want you to do it without feeling like i can't advocate for myself but also know when to get that trusted adult and intervene that's why we're here so um as you notice other than mathematics that the support is around our mental health and our sel to really build that that skill set because we we recognize that it's not a problem that's going to go away without us taking more care of it just one second thank you yes sir i'm i am flawed at this because when we had the situation of crt and the anti-racism task force here to give their presentations we heard so much from the public about how it is not necessary
061we do not have bullying in our schools we do not have intolerance we don't have racism okay so and i totally believe what you're telling us is your experiences and i think we need to work closer with this wonderful task force that we've set up to figure out how we can build tolerance in our children it's they're intolerant of each other for whatever reasons whether it's covid or um just mimicking the parents in a lot of cases i believe hearing what they hear at home about people and different backgrounds and i i just feel like we need to address this more we need to and i would definitely as you were speaking i said this is going on in the future agendas because we need to figure out a way of handling it in a
062diplomatic way handling it with discipline handling it within our curriculum teaching kids that you don't historically you i mean we don't they don't even want to teach that us our schools to teach the history of intolerance these kids need these this history facts so that it's not repeated more than ever now intolerance is not acceptable in this school district and we've got to figure out among all of us how to deal with this and i am sorry that you're going through this i'm just hauled over with the idea of the immensity of this problem that we have anyway thank you miss chambers mr day and then i'll give you a chance to speak mr tom i have a question for the administration we've heard couple of individuals there very importantly say that they were told
063that it wasn't bullying were these were these told by professionals was there any just an incident report for nothing else not even a bullying report just an incident report i met with with so and so about a potential incident and and i believe that it wasn't bullying so that there would be some a paper trail to the better i mean it's one thing if a teacher that has little or no training on on bullying turns around and says says to a kid you know that's not bullying i i i think i i don't know i'm asking you that if it does a teacher automatically re refer this to a professional or do they just take it upon themselves to turn around and say it's not bullying it typically referred to the dean of the administration
064the teachers typically referred directly to a professional that knows knows and understands that the law as it pertains to bullying and would be able to at least make a incident report that would uh had a discussion with you and it and it can be coded it just may not be quoted under the uh there's reporting like we report all discipline but this report is separated out and required to be um submitted to the school committee choice a year so for example you would see incidents um threats are violent i mean there are other incidents that occur fighting mutual education assault they're all coded differently but this is a specific report required by the state separated out i'm not talking about that report i'm talking about something that do we have in-house that's an incident that
065said i met with so-and-so and and yes there's no any incident in any report well i i i would think that this would be a step forward and and to reinforce what these two two ladies said here that they were told that there was not bullying there should be a report that they were told by somebody that wasn't bullying like are you looking for like a like a finalized letter of some kind yeah we could i could speak with history well that to me which is is the way i used to do business when when when i was in charge of some individuals with reports on any any any potential mis or wrong doings thank you mr day ma'am you can please if you have another comment please thank you mr day because i was
066really basically following up on that um i because i did state um our students are being told this is not bullying so they're not filling out a report um so i feel like when a student comes forward and they're speaking to a dean have them fill out a report because otherwise how are you going to see that they are being targeted if they're never feeling out of report because they're being told by somebody you are not being bullied so i feel like maybe just when students come forward whether it be the middle school or high school just give them the form have them fill it out because you know you're not we're not we're not you don't know the numbers unless they're filling out an instant report or a bullying report and if it's not
067bullying all that's doing is creating paperwork i understand and i'm sure in some cases unfounded but it will show a pattern if someone is being targeted and you know school shootings and stabbings they don't just happen overnight you know and we are korean we don't do anything you never know what a child is going to turn into so i i feel like it's no one's fault here it's just we can do better small things like just by listening to our students and having them fill out a report whether the dean thinks it's bullying or not just let them fill out their report it took them a lot to go there so just listen to the students listen you know it could be maybe it's bullying maybe it's initial you don't know but it's like let
068them fill out the report and then our numbers will be seen and then you can see if a student is really being targeted and it'll be looked into i agree so thank you so i'm on the website and the forum is on there but um if i understand how it's used here you've gotta download it fill it out and submit it to someone which is probably the barrier that you're talking about someone it seems like maybe isn't as receptive to receiving it well what i'm hearing is um because as a parent honestly you know you know i've taught my kids to handle their issues so it's a lot when they come forward that they're having an issue because they look out for other kids that are being bullied and you know this incident with a
069student um she was looking out for him she actually you know i'm not going to say any further because obviously this is like i don't know if it's televised or like people are listening to it so i don't want to say anything more but she was looking out for a student and then that student ended up acting out on her so i feel like um so as a parent like i haven't been going on but the student they're taking it upon themselves and they're going to the administration and they're being told you don't need to fill it out right so what i'm wondering is is there an opportunity to make this forms submittable online for the students to just submit and just that's a great idea submit it and they don't have to go to
070an adult they don't have to go to a resource office so they can just that's a great idea we also have the say something app which is anonymous even if a student feels and you can put your name and not put your name but any student for any incident can use that middle school i like i like gary's idea yeah they know every time you feel about every time you add a layer of you know so i'm an educator too and a parent um and there's always a power hierarchy that that's easy to ignore and just say oh they're a good teacher or they're a good resource officer they are but the power hierarchy always exists that that's one reason they may not be comfortable doing this so if you can this shouldn't be hard
071to create just boom it could be submitted electronically an app on their phone i mean we can do everything on powerschool this shouldn't be hard to do good ideas thank you yeah i'm just going to say i will suggest this for a future agenda item for sure but we need to be more proactive with this and creating the pathways for these kids to come forward this is not acceptable that these children have to deal with this we always had to deal with it you know even as old as i am we had some unkindness is done but this is this is pervasive and we need to get a handle on it and become more proactive with it thank you mr luzon i i just got to echo what what donna was saying not just then
072but before the last eight months we've seen different sides of cheruhou and um this bothered me thank you for telling us thank you yeah we might invite you back to some meetings when when we get the opposition in those seats that are saying don't talk about racism don't deal with that or um gender um equity and all of that so anyway thank you everyone um good conversation important one you want to letter b i and b is k to eight mathematics curriculum revision and um suspico is here along with dr carmela to provide those updates specialist for five through twelve i'm going to be reporting out the k to eight math curriculum because we did all kind of work together anyway um with dr camelo's help we have brought together the end part of our
073curriculum so if you would remember i'll just kind of bring you through the timeline because of the legislation to bringing in new curriculum materials we started the middle school off almost in a head start application because they already had the old version of the curriculum we had selected so we got them the newest version as quickly as we could get it for them and to do that effectively and the elementary i should say um we had to have uh the documents showing quarter one or trimester one on the books so that they could start it in september and then from that point on in the fall we took on the rest of the curriculum to finish it up for quarters two three and four or trimesters two and three and that is where we are
074now so you already approved quarter one and trimester one of this exact curriculum we did do some updates on those first pages we made hyperlinks to all of it so that you don't have page numbers on the table of contents and then a great suggestion for mrs picard to bring the click here to return to the table of contents so that it was easy to get right back up so if you guys were using this live um you know prior to this meeting hopefully that was useful um i want to specially thank the entire two teams that were part of this so again the spring of last year and this fall um so everyone really worked very well together we had come up with a very nice template um everyone was able to stick to
075it since we started from scratch and work with again the new curriculum materials to kind of like see the pacing and things like that um as okay as we know in all of our curriculum documents we state our foundations and our beliefs and this is one um that i really feel especially in math we want to have meaningful learning opportunities and we're going to talk a little bit more about what that means with the new curriculum and what that really signifies in this new process including the new materials so um as you can see we kept all the same introduction the mission the vision the things that you've seen in all the curriculum documents that have come through we know that we expect rigorous academic standards we know that that also means that we have
076to have really great supports and we do that here very well with tier two and tier three interventions with rti and others and that this is a learning process not just a one-time situation um the practices is where i was going to tell you a little bit more about if you've been seeing homework come home and the new curriculum again k to 8 right now you're going to start to see i think what we did in math compared to what we're seeing now in math is a very different thing and i think the first three math practices really speak to that and these math practices cover kindergarten through 12th grade just so you know like they are they are the same exact eight ones that just follow through and the first three specifically are different
077from what i think we did a lot of when we were in school making sense of problems and persevering to solve them the perseverance part i think that's really important and we're really working that is a new part of the teaching it's not just expecting kids to have the perseverance but teaching them to how to perseverance the reason abstractly and quantitatively you will start to see way more algebra in the younger younger years and it's not going to be the first time they see it as a 9th grade they're getting a lot more of that abstract piece at the younger year so you're going to start seeing more of that and then the third one which is the most visual when you walk into classrooms now which is construct viable arguments and critique the reasoning
078of others so not only are they knowing how to get to their correct answer but they can tell you which strategy they use they will use words like strategy my approach right and they can dialogue around this which is really interesting and they can disagree with one another um maybe that's where we're teaching dialogue and disagreement but we are teaching them how to respectfully disagree with another person's answer or how they got to their answer so and that takes a lot of learning because it's not just the math it's teaching all those other things as well but the others are i mean things that we would have always had in math attending to precision things like that that's still there but those first three i felt like really spoke to the new parts of what
079we're going to start to see in a lot of the curriculum um the hallmarks of excellence um of course we are always going to try to do our very best and teach our students the very best and i do think that the curriculum and the new materials are going to really heighten everything that we work with here the goals we are always going to envision that we have a vision of a graduate right but the graduate can't start at high school the graduate starts at kindergarten and so we want to make sure that we are creating that vertical articulation so that when they get to the high school we're not playing catch-up again now going back to the documents themselves you have kindergarten through eighth the references are always to the right and the common
080core state standards we have it just set up i think as neatly as we could so that it was for all the stakeholders to really understand what we're doing we have the number of days of instruction which will not necessarily um always match so its number of instructional days that doesn't include quizzes tests and all the other things that would also be involved math in action just so if anyone had a question about that is mainly like a project or a thing at the end that really brings to all the different lessons from that unit together and makes it a little bit more realistic then we have the essential contents and skills which are the major themes the content to be learned and the essential questions for that unit i just had picked a sixth
081grade example here and then if you when per you per lesson you would see which focus standard was being specifically outlined and then if you clicked on any of these blue links the next thing you would have seen was the vertical articulation so even as a teacher or parent you could say what would they have learned last year again especially these days when maybe they didn't learn it so strongly last year this is what they would have learned last year and that's why they may be struggling and what will they be using this for in the future so it's really going to bring you the behind and forward look of what that standard expects so um i think this is also helpful at the rti level we're seeing that you know the students going in
082needing a little extra help for the gap fill section we will be using this to see what they will be needing prior to that lesson that was a really short summary because i just felt like you guys had a very long discussion but if there's anything you have questions about i'd be happy to answer them i know you guys have looked through these documents very closely and just that last piece of that timeline is the high school's being worked on right now for quarter one only by june so that we can start quarter one in september and then the finality of that curriculum will be worked on in the fall kind of the same timeline we did for this good dr callahan you have a question yeah no i don't have a question it was
083so thorough just a general comment i i really enjoyed looking through this i found it very challenging um i thought it was um very initially i thought it was very aggressive because you're right algebraic expressions are pulled in much younger i like that statistics and probability is introduced that's something we have not been covering well as a country um and so to have it introduced at an earlier age i think that's just outstanding i think the team did a great job i just wanted to publicly commend you on that so thank you so just about the stats and the probability because i think it's every math teacher's joke in a sense it's always chapter 12 or 11 in every textbook and you ever get to it so it's really important somebody actually asked about the
084instructional days and how we plan on fitting it so we're building calendars with the hopes that it's an ideal calendar but that we're not going to cut at the end but instead weed out the parts that are not less important standards but that are not as foundational to the next year's learning so you can you know just comb out some of those smaller standards continue with the focus standards but not skip chapter 12. like not and like that that was always something and it was always the last one was province that's like i don't know why maybe they thought it was fun to like roll dice and do stuff in june but it never got there and i think it also supports the um you know the high school with introducing statistics uh as a
08512th grade option so it's that vertical and that's awesome and i do think that the books are more rigorous i mean the new curriculum we purchased is new and more rigorous and what i think i would say publicly for parents and community members to know is that's going to take some time for the teachers to really take a shift to but also for our students so we have to be and i'm not i almost have to take my own medicine on this one i have we have to be gracious with our students that they may not get straight a's all the time right away because this is really hard stuff and they are having gaps and they are going to have and not to say they won't get straight a's but if there's a bump
086in the road that as parents we say what didn't you understand instead of what didn't you study i think those are like two different things like what didn't you understand let's relearn that let's re like see how you can especially in math so that we don't lose it for the next chapter but not necessarily it only being about the grade because i think that that's where you know it's gonna get a little messy for a little while as this is all coming up stronger miss juicy yes um it is very difficult um and so my seventh grader started in algebra this year and it was it was something you know and um it was a lot of struggle there were some tears but she persevered through it um so i think it's it's certainly challenging
087but i think we've kind of lagged behind in mathematics in this country and so i think it's important for our kids now to understand that no it's it's important stuff um so i appreciate all the work that you've done on it but yes i want to echo your sentiments that i think a lot of kids are used to i'm really good at math right and so then they get this mindset i don't have an a anymore so i must not be good at math anymore it's just completely different and markedly different from what i learned so and another piece that i'll add to that is there's a ton of reading comprehension yes that's involved in it it's no longer numeracy for numeracy sake so if you were good at math i would put myself in
088that category but i was not very good at reading comprehension i would have struggled a little bit more in this curriculum than i would have in our traditional one so i think i tasked my teachers which is a good role i i sit in in that let's identify where the errors are coming from is the error coming from lack of reading comprehension skills or new mercy skills and let's try to really identify which one is lacking and put the correct supports in because that's really where we're going to see the difference because i also say like if i read it out loud to them do they get the right answer would if they read it to themselves do they get the right things like that yeah thank you but there are strategy being placed on
089that there's three reads you'll ask your students about three reads being read out loud to they read along with they read themselves or forget the order of them but they read themselves something like that whole classroom there's three reads just check it out it's definitely part of their system there's somebody who's very good at that please get the hell what we do have students who test out um at the high school level so um we have students right now that might test out a geometry during the summer so that they can go from algebra to algebra two because they weren't pre-selected back in sixth grade for accelerated so the only reason to test out is to get to calculus it's not ever intention to skip out to get less math but the intention to have
090more math but we do allow for that miss spears yeah i think any kind of framing that we can do that steers our students away from dichotomous kind of understandings of their learning styles is really comprehensive integrated and it does serves our community better i mean i feel like this particular approach is highly integrated it is one that is useful for all of our learners and i just want to applaud all of the work that you and your team have done and kind of the roll out in the progression um makes sense for our educators as well and i think the grace that we need to extend to our students we also need to extend to our educators who are learning in a system and working in a system in a different way in multiple
091ways but also in this one in particular so i applaud the group and i do think that we had really great support the state provided pd we had pd implemented part as part of our program that we purchased um they've been well supported and i believe a second year of support is also going to be in place and so i think um that would be what i would say is much better than common core round one in the sense that i think there's a lot more like daily support that's being offered and i think that's really good i'm still going to have struggles and you know obstacles but i do think it's going to go much better yes ms chambers thank you susie again excellent work thank you thank you mr chairman's team yeah thank
092you excellent job thank you so much and the whole team and the whole team the whole team a lot of work went into that uh item c 2023 school committee meeting schedule i recommend approval of the 2023 school committee meeting schedule there's been a motion and a second to approve the god it's terrible to say 2023 school committee meeting schedule um open it up for questions or discussions anybody have any changes suggestions i kind of look through it seems pretty standard okay i'll take it to a vote those approving any opposition recusals or abstentions that was unanimous thank you so much agenda items do we need anything pulled yes dr callahan chair i'd like to pull a1 and a2 okay a1 a2 is being pulled mr day um i would like to pull uh uh
093a uh a b transfers the transfers yeah okay sir thank you any other pulls seeing there's none madam chair i'd like to move the remainder but before i do yes sir i would like to acknowledge the donations one a donation from marjorie auby of richmond rhode island of a new prom dress value at 70 dollars to a junior or senior in need two a donation from rudy hemp in the foundation you are master gardeners of a shade cloth for the richmond garden valley at 419.33 to the richmond school and three a donation from daniel fowler or wesley rhode island of a john deere la 125 riding mower valued at nine hundred dollars to the charo high school baseball program to maintain their field second there's been a motion in a second to approve the remaining
094consent agenda items those in favor and that was unanimous also thank you so much madam chair yes sir i'd like to um make a motion to approve a one a the executive session minutes of march 8 2022 approval of the executive session minutes of february 8th 2022 minutes not sealed second there's been a motion by miss luzon a second by miss miss giusti to approve the executive session minutes of march 8th 2022 approval executive session minutes of february 8 2022 minutes not sealed any discussion or changes amendments or additions to those minutes at this time i don't see any i'll take it to a vote those in favor and opposition abstention recusal abstention thank you mr madam chair yes sir i'd like to make a motion to approve a two regular session minutes of march
0958th 2022 there's been a motion in a second luzon is second by ms uh giusti to approve the regular session minutes of march 8th 2022 any discussion or changes amendments to those minutes no those in favor any opposition abstention thank you thank you madam chair yes i'd like to make a motion to approve b the transfers exactly been a motion and a second to approve the transfers now i can open that up to discussion mr day uh i need i'm i don't need to i want to abstain from the vote on that oh okay yes sir okay does anyone else have any discussions on that nope take that to a vote those in favor uh those against upstate upsetting yesterday and any thank you mr dang okay now we're on to reports so the set
096up we have no subcommittee reports i'm going to sell uh we have kindergarten registration that's opened on march 14th that is a digital central centralized registration paper copies are always available to anyone who needs one um we message our k registration via our family emails our towns shed flyers social media as well up to date we have 28 k registrations for ashway 5 at charlestown seven at hog valley and 12 at richmond we also um wanted to give an update on the peer-to-peer mentoring as part of our mental health and supports for uh next year we had a presentation at the health and wellness subcommittee on march 8th and discussed the program as it's designed to build support through the school so that students know where and how to get help the purpose is to
097reduce the stigma about dealing with mental health and asking for help the prayer program also has resources to help schools build programs including how to create the school team some schools will create an application process and staff recommendations to be able to get training over the summer and moving into the fall one of the core principles of the program is that young adults will listen to one another mark collins who is the founder of the chris collins foundation said that the peer-to-peer website includes resources from other schools to help schools plan their programs feedback from the schools who have implemented this program on training sessions is very very well received there are several south county schools already implementing the program and we had narragans and south kingstown students share their experiences that they've had as
098they've implemented so we're very excited to begin working on this as we enhance our ability to create a less stigma around mental health and more support for our students we also have upcoming events hope valley school spirit week march 21st to march 25th so that is happening right now early release day is tomorrow march 23rd secondary is dismissed at 12 45 pm in elementary at 1 55 pm we have our national honor society ceremony at the cms auditorium at 6 00 p.m on march 24th on march 30th we have our terre haute high school benefit concert chorus of westerly at westerly hall at 7 00 p.m on april 4th hope rally school pto meeting at 6 30 pm on april 5th our all-day budget referendum at the town halls 8 a.m to 8 p.m on
099april 6th and april 7th we will begin third grade um english language arts rycast testing which is the state testing and on april 8th secondary end of grading period quarter three what's going by uh this time i'd like to offer the time for any school committee member to request future addendum items or legal opinions yeah i said you were going to i would very much like to carry on the discussion on i don't necessarily think it needs to be limited to the word bullying it's the lack of tolerance in our children and how can we become more proactive and engage the administration in that as well um possibly i don't know gina the peer-to-peer peer mentoring might be one avenue it sounds like it's possible but let's just explore different ways that we can do
100to um get a better handle on the lack of tolerance of of the kids in the school call it discrimination call it bullying call it whatever does that make any sense it does my thinking is you know um as you know a lot of the work for the asteroids are on our uh specialists our student service specialist which is thinking about that whole needs assessment of all the needs based on what our students needs are what our teachers are saying the needs are what they're seeing in class outside of class the incidents right so i think it's it's our larger plan that's what we want to we want to sort of talk through the beginning stages of that work that we plan on doing moving forward and and that's a good idea to talk at
101the beginning because this is this is going to be an ongoing challenge correct um so definitely if we could begin the conversation at on our agenda we're also looking at how we structure advisory to make sure that those skills are built in within that that and also i'm a little surprised that the law is limiting you and what you can do to keep management in the classroom and keep these kids from threatening other kids so i would like to hear a little more about that too i don't know if you want to bring john in for that but we have to um you know i'm so old that we used to just have kids suspended and kicked out of school and that was the end of it get rid of the bad apples it doesn't
102sound like you can do that now no anyway so just to begin the framework in the um conversation yeah april at this point just to let you guys know april's pretty full we have only one meeting in april and we have yeah i just think that it needs to be but there are things i think on april that's we'll talk to this work around right student uh student surveys that are coming up and the the work that students are already saying that they have with their mental health but we all agree it's important so we're going to get it on as soon as right right and begin the conversation of what how we can be proactive in this and bring in the um anti-racism task force and see what they can do to help this
103situation in terms of their working on the curriculum also thank you thank you mr day my understanding is we will have this in discussion in may then on the um well we have too many to make sure yeah absolutely well i mean you know we don't have a lot we don't have a lot of left to this school year and i know that parents want to be involved once someone comes here you know a lot of times uh things get you know moved moved to their their agendas they're not in tune with us so mr dave we will make it a priority ready yes sir madam chair yes make a motion to adjourn there's been a motion by mr luzon second by dr callahan who had during the meeting those in favor and that was
104unanimous thank you very much i like we don't have discussion we just go straight to voting well listen to disgust who wants to you don't want to adjourn i'm sorry i'm welcome for a discussion