2025 - November 10th WSD School Board Meeting - Part 1

001Oh, sorry. Chairperson Sandal >> here, Vice Chair Sher >> here. Members Rulan Bryant >> here. >> Um or Candace Eisen >> here. Shell here and >> right number three, pledge of allegiance. Ice to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Do we have a moment of reflection or prayer today? >> Yes. I know you guys may think I'm just reading from the computer, but I'm actually You can find the Bible on the computer. First Peter 3 [clears throat] 8 and 9 says, "Finally, all of you be like-minded, be sympathetic, love one another, be compassionate and humble. Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult. On the contrary, repay evil with blessing because to

002this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing. >> Thank you, Sally. >> Okay, number five, conflict of interest. We've got a few today. >> Um I didn't receive Miranda's. She was going to bring it with her. Um but we can approve hers next month, but I do have hopes we can pass them around. and I included mine in um the board packet. >> So, we'll just add Miranda's to December's meeting if that's okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. in December. Thank you. Um, all right. Item number six, approve agenda. >> Oh, you need to >> Oh, we need to approve those. >> I'll make a motion to approve the conflict of interest for Miranda and Amy. >> Second. >> Excuse me. >> We have a motion, a second to approve the conflict of

003interest for open Amy. >> Any other discussion? All in favor say I. I. >> Post same sign. Motion passes to approve these conflicts of interest. Okay. Now we'll move on to number six. Approve agenda. >> Move. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. >> I. >> Post. Same sign. Motion passes. Approved agenda. On to number seven. Approve consent agenda. Take a motion to approve consent agenda. Second >> motion and a second. Any other discussion? All in favor say I. >> I. >> Same sign. Motion passes to approve the consent agenda number eight. Got open form tonight. Do we have anybody? Right. You're up. >> Good evening. For those of you who don't know me, my name is Cindy Dinger. I have um four kids that

004are either currently in or have gone through the system. The well school district here. Um Ava graduated in 22, Nora graduated in 24. Um EMTT's a senior this year and Ethan is a seventh grader. I have a few things I would like to talk about tonight. Um the first one is middle school computers. Um, it's my understanding that their use was restricted and they're not allowed to take them home. And I understand that this they're school property. You guys can determine what you will whether or not they're allowed to use them or bring them home. However, I was told that the reason behind this is that there were issues with them visiting inappropriate websites and playing inappropriate games. I find it interesting that the football state t-shirt order form was sent out via multiple forms

005of social media and email and I was even got sent a text message to order my football state shirt. But as a parent of a middle school child, I was not notified that the entire middle school got in trouble because they were visiting inappropriate websites and playing inappropriate games. I'm more concerned as a parent that I wasn't notified of that because that's something to me that I need to address with my own child and talk to my own child about. So, the fact that it got kind of pushed under the rug is very frustrating to me. The second thing I would like to talk about is the Wednesday middle school practices. I know it's policy now that they're not allowed to practice on Wednesdays. I would like you to consider revisiting this. Middle school is

006a time for developing and learning skills. They can't fine-tune skills by not being allowed to practice. Practicing on Fridays, which I'm okay with, but it makes it awful hard for people who are rural to get their kids into town for an extra day when they wouldn't normally be here. whereas on Wednesdays they would already be here. You can't develop competitive teams by not allowing coaches to have practice. I've been told Wednesdays are for family time. However, Wednesday right after school, a lot of the parents are still at work and have jobs and can't spend time with their children anyway. I don't see what it would hurt allowing the kids to have practice on Wednesdays because a lot of them wouldn't be with their family anyhow. Just an example, junior high boys basketball season, there's five

007weeks of games. If you add two weeks at the beginning of that for when they're allowed to start practice, it runs seven weeks. That's 49 days. If you take out game days, weekends, Wednesdays, and potentially Fridays, you have 14 of those 49 days that they're left to practice. My three oldest kids were all on state tournament teams. They didn't get there by practicing 14 days in their middle school seasons. By opening Wednesdays back up to practice, you would get seven more days of practice. That's a lot of practice and a lot of skills that can be learned in seven days. The last thing that I would like to address, and I know that Ryan Ket is on the agenda to discuss this later tonight, is the um gym use. I listened to the schoolboard meeting

008last week and I was quite disturbed with some of the comments that were made. One of them being that we need to punish these kids if adults are playing basketball and high school kids come in and play with them. They're going to punish a child for coming in and playing basketball where they could be out drinking or smoking or partying, but they're not. They're trying to better themselves and be healthy and improve themsel. One thing I would like you to consider when you're deciding what you're going to do with your gym time and whether or not kids are allowed to use the gyms on Sundays is that the powerhouse gym, at least last year, was closed for the entire month of December to public use because the gymnastics equipment was set across the entire floor.

009If you close the powerhouse gym and don't allow coaches to have open gyms on Sundays, that leaves the high school kids with no place to shoot around. If they have a game on Monday, my kids always liked to come in and shoot around on Sunday evenings. And I know you consider that family time, but as a family, if I'm going to leave town for the weekend, I'm going to probably be gone Friday night and Saturday and I'll be home on Sunday. And that would be a great time for my kid to have gym access because we'll be home. Whereas if the coaches decide to have open gym on Saturdays, if you're gone for the weekend, you can't make that work. And then your child might get upset with you because they don't want to go

010now because they're going to miss Open Gym. And my family might not be like your guys', but we like to spend time in the gym. My kids like to shoot around. They like to put in that extra time. I had two girls that played college basketball. They didn't get there by not being allowed to put in extra time outside of practice. EMTT has spent a lot of extra time in the gym shooting. Many of you probably have seen him and you probably feel like he was there illegally. However, I feel like he proved himself last year. Those extra minutes that he spent at the gym, actually hours that he spent in the gym really improved his game last year. And you could tell he was a key factor to us getting to the state tournament

011by not allowing these kids access to the gym. And I have no problem supervising it if you prefer that it be supervised, but we're taking that away from them. And that's their joy. And I'm not just saying it because they're good athletes. My three oldest kids were all the top three of their class. They all had over a 4.0. I believe EMTT does. Um I think he's ranked number three in his class right now. Ava and Nora were saludiatoran and validictorian. So they're not just gym rats. They're also putting in time with their books. So by taking that away from them, that's their release. And I know people that live out in the country don't approve of open gym possibly, but if it's optional, I don't see what the problem is because some kids need

012that release. That's all I >> Thank you. >> And with open form, the board cannot respond anything, but we do appreciate you coming in with that input. Thank you. Um, okay. If that's all we got for open forum tonight, anything else? Um, we move on to number nine, student presentation, recognition, and student of the month. >> Okay, I've got a couple groups I want to present uh to you tonight. Um, some of these are here. I was hoping my September students of the month one is here. I guess our others may still be in practice. But I already told you I think last time um I congratulated September students of the month were middle school PICE Jolen and Brand High School was Brand Hilgen Camp. I wanted them to come tonight because that was something

013I wanted to make sure and do and we didn't get the September kids here. So, I'm going to let you guys all walk through and the board can congratulate you when I'm done with everything. Okay. Okay. And then October students of the month, middle school was um Jimmy Smith, middle schooler. And then we also have Rian Cheney here for our high school student of the month. So those are the students of the month that I want to present to you tonight. In addition to that, because they've overlap, we're just going to wait. Um we come on in, Joe. >> Oh, >> are you coming? >> I'm just here to pick up my sister. >> Oh, sorry. Okay. There's a whole bunch of these students. We celebrated these guys in a pep assembly. I believe that

014it's important to celebrate academics as well as our activities. So there were 32 students from Wall who went and took 42 different tests. Um most of these kids competed against 30 to 50 kids in their test and our team as a team this year got fifth place. Best I think Wool's ever done. And I want to just announce to you all the kids who placed in the top 10. These are kids who um put points on the board for wall. And some of them are here tonight, some of them are not. If you are here when I read your name, I just like you to come out. Um so I'm going to just name the 10th places first. In 10th place, we had younger Amyot in physical education and sports knowledge got 10th place. We

015also had Rigins Cheney equin management. She got 10th place in that. We also had 10th place animal science Hadley Match. Good job. Um, eighth place we had Rigens Cheney in veterary science. We also had, he's here, Mitchell Moer, wildlife ecology and management. Eighth place. Moving up, we had seventh place, Tariq Bell. I don't believe he's here. general science. Um, they're all mixed up here. Sixth place, we had Bria Boomman in business law. We had Khloe Kerman in flash fiction. What Khloe had to do was sit down and write a story, write a narrative, and she got sixth place. That's huge to go do a performance test. Um, so sixth place is outstanding. We also had Owen Geel, business management decisionmaking. Sixth, sixth place. Um, let's move on to fifth place. We had Satie Davis in

016environmental science. We also had Bryce Moers here, environmental science. And we had Brand Hilgenamp in personal finance, fifth place. Let's keep moving down. We had fourth place Bryce Moer again in wildlife ecology and management. We had um Okay, I think I said all those. We had this year for the first time that I've ever got to experience a first place and first place goes to Tyler Hines in American government and they at Shadron all these kids will get certificates awards and Tyler will get a um scholarship to Shadron for first place. So kids Just everybody come through and shake hands. >> Congratulations. >> Good job. >> Congratulations. Congratulations. >> Congratulations. by the way. >> Oh, sorry. I didn't see you. [laughter] I have one other um um thing that I want to present. This came

017maybe right after our last board meeting and we'd like a picture. I know we're not all here, but they really push us. Um our school board got gold level. Um, I know they you get points through the year for the different trainings we do, for the different things we do as a board, but they're hanging out on the wall. So, here's one more to add to the wall. Good job, board. >> Yeah. Why we do it. [laughter] >> Well, we take a picture someday when I can stand up and hear it. Miranda, >> still missing Miranda. So, um, all right, we're going to go on to number 10, Student Counselor Board. anything we can talk about there. Could you share about a little bit about the region workshop you went to and anything else that

018we're kind of doing as >> Oh, for that we went to the Armory and Rapid and we did a bunch of went to a bunch of different stations and we worked on like team building skills and like ways we could improve like as student council members for like collaborating on different ideas we could do. And there's a lot of that sort of stuff pretty much. And there's a bunch of games in there too. and dancing which it was pretty fun. >> I've included the student council a lot more this year. I've asked Brand um or the seniors to sit. Belling came last meeting. I got Bran sitting this time. Um we'll have the Christmas party coming up. We do they've been responsible for doing some pep rallies since we don't really have other leaders for

019that. They do a good job of that. We'll have a one Friday morning at 8. send off the football team. That announcement of that if it hasn't come out, it's coming out. It's been a busy day. I look at Mrs. Myers because we're kicking something out. >> Um, >> for clarification, are you doing that Thursday or Wednesday or >> did I say Friday? Thursday morning at 8:00. Um, what else are we doing? Student >> I don't know. Seems like we just got to get through. Huh? >> Is that on the website yet? Not yet. Okay. >> Been extremely >> Yeah, we'll get there tonight. Um if not, we'll just send out a little bit of some blurb. >> I appreciate you guys. So, thank you. >> Thank you. Thanks for coming in. Thanks for the

020update. >> Yeah, no problem. >> Um number 11 today, we got approved surplus items for disposal. >> There was actually no items for disposal or surplus. Just going to pass right over that one. Um, number 12, committee reports, budget, negotiations, and insurance. I have not met. >> Okay. Or >> um, we don't have anything for the budget negotiations and insurance for this month. >> Good. Well, we move on to the next one. Buildings, grounds, and transportation. Missing Tyrell. He's on that committee and he's not here tonight, but Candace and I are. I had to phone in. Um, but we we went over we went over, I guess, a fair amount of talk about the powerhouse. Um, I don't know, >> upgrading security for the doors. >> Upgraded security for the doors. regardless of what happens

021there in the next two or three years that you know we can't have a we can't have a building that's not secure and we can't have a building that we don't know what's going on in it. So that's a that's a cost that you know no matter what happens with the building um and and I think our minds uh there's there's really no way we can go on for a year without it. And so, um, that was on the that was on the topic of discussion. Um, little bit of discussion, no decisions made here, but, um, possible fee increase there. Um, and, you know, updating our application to be able to get your key, that kind of thing. Um, >> also wanted [clears throat] to address the doors and the issues with the doors not

022opening. We have discovered is likely due to a power surge, older wiring. They haven't pinpointed what exactly is triggering it, but it seems to be a power surge that's locking the doors and making them unaccessible. So, they're working on that, possibly upgrading that security system as well. So, >> yeah, >> Becca does have a quote for you if you're interested in that quote. >> Wouldn't be interested. >> So, with the doors and the cameras, um, for the three doors, it's $15,890.97 for just the Golden West part of it. And then there's the state part with VPN and getting that connected so that we would the powerhouse would then fall under managed services moving forward. That's about $1,000 >> and they'd all be synced with the school. Correct. >> Good. >> Could you repeat that first?

023I'm sorry. >> Yeah. $15,890.97. >> That's three doors. >> Three doors and the cameras. >> Three doors. Cameras. Etn is separate,000. meaning it's going to hook it so it'll be on our camera system just like everything else, right? >> And part of our managed services moving forward so that if we call them with any issues, it would not be a fee for service at that point of time. >> Sorry to jump on you. >> No, you can keep you can keep going. And we talked about increasing powerhouse fees to help pay for a lot of this updates. Um, keeping everything functioning is a big part of being able to use it. Updating our application system for people that are applying for key cards to get in and out of the powerhouse. Um, also having reiterated

024this before, but explaining to employers that are buying keys for employees, especially those that don't speak very good English, that these are the rules, these are the policies, you must obey them or else you will lose your key cards. We just have to be a lot more strict about this. And we have discussed hours of operation for clarification and gone over policies that already exist. reiterated on that, hours of usage, etc. Missing anything? No, that that was about everything I caught. Yeah. >> Um the warranty walk through, >> you know, >> talk about that, >> Chris. Well, we had the it's been a year since we finished our addition. And so what they do as a part of their war, we have a warranty for a year. And so our RCS manager, project manager, and

025the um engineer engineers, >> architect came out and looked at things. Um, a couple things we did ask about, we had a sewer backup and so they suggested that the flushing wasn't the mechanism was not strong enough. Well, we found out today that the um those were not recommended by the plumbers. They were recommended by the architect. So the the so it's a smaller flusher. So we're going to have conversation. I said send that to the architect and see what his explanation is. They said that those flushers should not be in a big public um school like ours. So we're going to look at that. Another thing, um, the railing in that in that CT shop that goes up to the mezzanine is got little screws, not good bolts like the rest of the railing

026that going up the stairs. So, it's like stripped off and rattles, doesn't it? >> Yeah. It's very loose, very unsafe. And so, they're um they've got to do something. They're going to do something with that. Now the roofing where we had all the leaking before the roofing company actually extended the warranty on that. So it will go out um farther you know farther time past when they fixed it. We haven't seen any leaking since it's been fixed. So I think but that's what that walk through was is just to come through and make sure I think there were a few >> the warranty on that I think after they came the final time is this one. Wasn't that what it said? >> Well, there's a >> that came in the file. >> It's longer than

027the Yes, it starts over. I think >> start >> there's some still some your drain the drains out in those shops are not draining very well and it happened. I was out there the other day, Thursday, and then water goes all over. So, I don't know. It's a very slow drain. >> That's the like washing station was there. So, remember we did when we were there with the open house part of that and we wondered about them just piping that straight. >> They have to do that. >> They have to leave a gap. >> That's some kind of code. >> But when it even goes down in the drain, it like fills up and then it then it spreads out. So, we shared that with them. So, they're working on that. I remember that being

028talked about, I guess, but I >> Yeah, and we wondered why the pipe didn't hook to the drain, >> but there's something about code because they said that's how we have to do them all. It's got to be some space there, but it like doesn't take any amount at all and it goes it goes out. So, I don't know for sure. >> Yeah, I guess I don't understand why that would seem, but yeah. >> But everything seemed pretty good. Uh the biggest concern I have over there is that design where the tumble weeds fill right in front of the main door. And when you get a snowstorm, it's going to take some plowing. They keep telling me the only thing that'll change that is if we put a fence out there. >> We discussed putting

029an awning over the top of that door with glass front doors like the gymnasium does to help. >> It'd have to go clear out to the that is suction between those two buildings. >> You know, it's snow and tumble we leaves and stuff like that. But >> but anyway, >> so we're in kind of a tunnel >> there. >> Yeah. Um we're going to bring in we did a little bit of discussion about um the powerhouse assessment we did have and bringing in an analyst that could visit with us about different kind of financing options um in terms of any kind of addition of the new new year. uh you know there's tools at our disposal that I don't think we're probably even aware of. I don't know if you'd like to speak any more

030on that either. >> Um just he specializes in [clears throat] financing and analyzing school districts because there are laws on how much debt a school district can have and different types of capital outlay certificates and bonds and whatnot. So, um I will look at having can once our final audit is I mean our audit is complete. It's just getting the the final numbers back. Once that's done, we have all our land valuations back from the county. So once those I can share with him and then he can give you guys a a detailed analysis of our finances and then see what we can do for different financing options because we don't um as far as the um CTE edition that was all cash pay by with cash and um so we don't have the funds

031to do that with another building project. So, we would have to do some sort of finance option. So, that would be something that would need to be presented to the board to see if that is something we'd be willing to do. So, >> as long as long as I've been on the board, we've had the cash. That was just the discussion was the cash. So, been little different world going forward and probably more normal um you know for I guess what you'll see in the future for sure. So, we went through a unprecedented time. One thing I want to say about budgeting, you guys, is I know there's other school districts tonight speaking that are voting on cutting schools. I've had a lot of teachers and a lot of people come to me saying, "We

032need we need to have this program, we need to have that program right now, guys, if we can maintain what we're doing and keep from ripping teachers and programs because you're right, we got used to money and those days are gone. And um there's a lot of uncertainty right now. I just had a big meeting today with um impact aid with the government shutdown and everything. Do we have our impact aid staff? Are they going to be able to keep our payments coming in a timely manner? We had a big meeting about it today on Zoom and we're hoping things they they're keeping things going, but we just got to be smart about our spending. Yeah, thank you. Um I think that's about all the buildings and grounds I talked about unless there's something else.

033>> Yeah, that we move on to we'll move on to the next committee report curriculum instruction and technology. >> So we did meet and we had quite a bit of stuff that we went over. I guess we can kind of touch on it. >> No, go for it. I tried to put the bullets I tried to put the notes just the topics down there I hope. >> Yeah. So we a concern that's been brought up is the is the even in the testing and stuff is is the level of reading our kids are struggling in their reading and so we talked about some of the foundational pieces there that are missing and the changes that have gone through and Dr. because there's the science of breeding kind of going forward with that. We as a

034committee feel like it's probably a pretty strong option and that one that we need to p pursue. Um just to bring some of those I guess you can explain it better. The science of reading is simply the research around the way the brain reads. And that's what I've done for the last 10 years before I was here was did a lot of research, trained a lot of schools, coached a lot of teachers, moved them out of reading improvements to doing much better. Um, it does, this is what it includes, a big cut, phmic awareness, which are sounds before we ever get to letters. Um then the phonics which is your letters and it's very very um systematic and then you have the reading fluency. You have vocabulary very very explicit instruction on all of these

035and then reading comprehension. The pendulum flips. It flips from comprehension to back to phonics. So if we're not careful we can focus too much on the phonics. But we have come from a place where we're focused way too much on comprehension. Just read it, answer questions. That's a way to teach reading. No. If I don't know my sounds first and my letters and read sound to letter correspondence. I mean, we're talking fundamentals. >> And I know this is new to some. I have really tried to work some interventions into middle school because we're seeing it. We're seeing it across K12. The lack of reading skills. I'm going to blame it some on this. and text talk is really contributing. We don't write in complete sentences. We struggle to read through and just take our time

036to focus on complete thought. We skim, we hurry fast, we answer questions, and then we're frustrated when we don't get the grade we want. We're seeing it even it kind of flows into even some of the next few things. But even in math class, you know, moving faster in math class and pushing kids in math, but if they don't even have that foundational reading piece, they're even struggling in math. And then we see it maybe struggling in some of the science pieces and just it just kind of the reading part of it just overflows into so much these kids are doing. So we're looking at changing that a little bit, updating it to um the math classes then kind of on the opposite side of the spectrum. you feel that there's been some push back,

037maybe a little bit, maybe our math classes are pushing too hard, moving too fast, and we're missing then key pieces there, then that's overflowing into some other areas um into science even there, which then is kind of further down talking about maybe switching the sciences and biology. What was it? physical science and biology just because those kids don't have the found those foundational math skills yet in ninth grade that they need for that class because they're in the math class at the same time. So, we need to get the math class done and then they can take the science class where they need those math skills. So, I think next year if if that's how we're going to go, ninth and tth grade will both do biology together. The ninth grade right now is doing

038physical science and then the 10th grade will be the or the ninth grade class will be the first one then to do it the correct order. So we'll go biology and then physical to kind of give that algebra piece that they're needing for that. Um the health class the we talked about the relationship smarts class. This has come up quite a bit before. Um it was being provided by Grant Ridge. Even when you and I were on the curriculum committee too, we've been through that. >> No, it's granted. >> It was grant at the time. The kids didn't uh permission slip to attend the class of thing. But this will be the last year of the grant or >> So the grant is gone. But what they did was they brought out Youth and Family

039Services brought out the curriculum and said they could give it to us. So he did give it to me and and I told my teacher that we can teach it but we have to teach it on the guidelines that the board approved during the grant. So there were certain topics we are not touching. Um, we will still the grant required the permission slip. We will still send a permission slip home. Um, so there's an opt out. If you don't want it, we will have on that permission slip. I'm going to go into even greater detail. That's probably before it was a face a website, but I'm going to type in the topics that we will cover. Um I will not cover controversial I don't want to move into the controversial topics but there are a

040lot of good relationship pieces um being saved you know and I'm talking safety computer right now we are struggling guys I'm just going to say it we've had these last two days some major things have come up with the use of technology um Cindy mentioned it earlier we have um what we're realizing our kids are using it. I've talked to several parents um if it's deal specifically otherwise it is kind of a widespread thing. So we're having to make some widespread decisions on we didn't we're using them we're using our computers but intentional use is what I told teachers. >> So I do have one question. So in a couple years ago when I was on there trying to remember how it all went down you guys are I think relationship smarts is a good

041program but you guys are going to go through it or you've already gone through it. >> No we didn't know about it until just their last are you feeling we need to go through it again? >> I'm not necessarily saying that. I just you guys are going to go through and decide what is >> I'm going to keep with the same that you've already approved. Okay. >> Unless you feel we need to go through it again. >> Not asking for that. No, I don't think anybody has. >> Well, we kept it the same as as we >> chapters we do not cover. >> We don't go through those and then as long as the permission slips still get settled up in >> the reason for that is because this class there's a lot of woke

042agenda in it. It's in the slides, it's in the powerpoints, it's in the it's in the materials, it's in the short videos. And so when we went through the previous curriculum committee, when we went through that piece, um we we said we're not it's not the school's job. There's there's a fine line. There's a real gray area on what what is is a home job and a parenting jobs and what's a public school's education job. And we just don't feel that necessarily those relationship pieces are the school's job to be teaching. It's unfortunate some kids don't get taught that at home. It really is. But it's not it's not the public school's job to educate those certain places and is how we felt. So we removed them from that. >> Yeah. It's the way it's

043the way it has been since I I'm I'm good. I think there's good stuff in it. And so I hate to scrap all of it, but So yeah, I just want to confirm. >> Yep. And then um talk about the online piece of that. We talked more about the LL piece. um some of those other programs that are being used um as far as it being a homework, you know, educational, just just looking at those pieces more and how they're being used. Teachers making sure that what the lls are given out that they match the curriculum that they're currently studying, but sometimes it doesn't match. Sometimes those online pieces advance you further than what you've been taught in the classroom and we then it can get hairy and messy. But anyway, just maybe just evaluating

044some of those pieces. We haven't done that yet, but just something that's on our radar. Um the CTE program, they talked they've got some pretty big projects going. um talked a little bit about bringing in some local community people who want to you know certified in those things and just utilizing some local teachers in that some of those bigger projects as well. It's going to be pretty cool deal there. And then we did talk it's just the very beginnings discussion of preschool and even daycare options in the school. We have a lot of teachers and a lot of staff members with a lot of little kids and we just feel like something that we need we need to be looking at. We need to be looking ahead if we want to retain teachers, we want

045to retain staff members. Um there's not a lot of options in Walford for daycare >> and it's really expensive >> and it's so expensive. So, we're Amy's running some numbers and we're just looking at some different state pieces on what that could possibly look like for our school. >> You will see in one of the resolutions coming up that has constantly been a request of the state for quite a while is to fund preschool. Right now, you only get state funding for K12, so nothing for preschool. So, it's on our own, which we can do. You can if that's a priority of the district, you can do anything. But um I know there's a huge push, um to lower it because kids are coming in more and more and more not prepared for kindergarten. We

046don't have the language. Our kids don't have the language skills and so we are constantly in kindergarten working on speaking sentences. You know, some of that we don't we we're really seeing a huge gap. And so, um, that's part of that whole preschool push to include preschool. So, yeah, it's just something that's out there being big and bold right now. >> I just wanted to make some comments, too. I got to talk to a bunch of middle school kids at a football game that were super excited. They were talking about whole mech type. I don't know which class they were referring to, but they were making breads, >> science, chemical work. >> They were over the moon passionate about this class. And I just wanted to give credit where credit is due because these kids

047were insanely excited about the stuff they were doing in that class. I mean, it's real world stuff. They're creating and making stuff and skills that used to have. So, >> well, it's home, but I told her it's also chemical bonding and all this work. So, she's it's related into is science. So, she's embedding the science into some of that work. Middle school science. >> Yeah. was an question I had as well on the CTE program. There have been adults asking if there could be an after hours adult class held at some point in time obviously new building get wet first but >> we kind of talked about that even with economic development um with the what was it the PDL class and things like that because so Western Dakota Tech is going to come in

048he's working Mr. Roshine's working with them to come in and do some teaching. And I had specifically said, let's open it up to the public. The problem is I think that that right now it's looking like a daytime class. Um, and but [clears throat] again, we got we can't just dive in. My goal is fundamentals first. You can't do fancy moves unless you know your fundamentals. We can't just dive in too hard, too fast. So, >> um I think it's in I mean I'm hoping it's in the works. We just talked about it last week. Um but we're what we do have because we're in the code of tax going to do some dual credit work >> with some of those um classes. And that's when I said could we offer some of that for

049our commute? And Mr. Frostein said, "Yeah, I don't know why not. We'll probably just have to figure out what works best in schedule. This was available instructors will probably >> determine that as well. >> Okay, >> that's what we got. >> All right. Well, thank thank you guys for >> Oh, there's one thing on the back. >> Sorry. Hope we're good. >> Next one is legislative policy and strategic plan there today. We have I think the hot topic button for the night and we are going to talk about it again in the next one with the policy reviews. Um but I just wanted to open this part of this with the policy committee has been working working on this for a while with the the Sunday night Wednesday night. So 3015 is the policy in

050question um and the and the activities handbook. Um, I want to point out that this is not new policy. So when we when we adopted these new policies, they weren't new. This isn't new. So we went clear back to 2020, the activity rules, the policies, these aren't new things. They just have been recently enforced or or whatever's happened, but they're not new. So when we adopted the policies, we went through a complete policy audit and everything's not perfect and we know that. But we just got done with this. So there's going to be some things to work out. There's going to be some kinks to work out and this is one of those things that we're tweaking. So we have updated this 3015 policy uh to what we believe. So this one is is specific

051to practice. And then we added another one 3015.1 that specifically addresses open gyms. Now we worked on this. We have reached out to schools in all of all the areas. So we've talked to Pedoka. We've talked to Philip. We've talked to New Wonderwood. I've talked to Kuster. We've talked to Hill City. I've talked um to Elden out out at White River. Like we've talked to a lot of people on this and worked together. even new um come up with these two kind of policy edits and additions and what we as a committee and you guys can speak up. Tyrell is not here but this is our recommendation to the board these edits and and additions because we want what's best for the kids. We want to be able to use the building. We just didn't

052know at the time how what that could look like um to ensure our non-negotiables which are safety, liability, and equitable access. So, we need consistency. These two politics. So, the Sunday night practice or Sunday practice just needed kind of updated. It just not say I think before it said only if there's a Monday game, >> right? >> And we updated that to say host in play because even now the Sunday practices could be approved by school administrator, building principal or AD. And so, and they weren't. Our football team just had practices and postseason play. They went through the process. They were approved. Um then the open gym policy we wrote in there. Um [clears throat] we had lots of input like I said from lots of schools and if you read it if we can

053get it if it's get it up there but we pulled we changed it and then we pulled straight from the Southakota. >> Which one are you on? This is a 3015. >> 3015.1 or we could do 3015 too. So we took out what we did is we when based on your guys's discussion the other night we took out what was there which is the crossed out and then we just rewrote it like this to make it easier. So some of it's from the right there. And the big thing for me with the Wednesday practices um for middle school, not every middle school church school is at 6:00. There are some that are right after school. There are some kids that get released a little bit early from school to go to church school and then

054once they're done with church school, they have to rush over to the powerhouse or back to the school when their practice is going on. And it seemed that they were already missing quite a bit of the meat and potatoes of practice of the plays and what else because they were at church school until 4:30. um that middle school came when Dennis Reedman was here and they're not practicing on Wednesday and that was because at the time the churches were concerned because the students were going to church school and then they would say I need to leave. It was 3:30. They said we have to go cuz we have practice. Even when the coaches said you don't have to be here, we're not going to do anything new. we're just going to shoot around or we're

055just going to do whatever they did on Wednesday that didn't involve some a new learning a new play. [clears throat] So that's why Dennis um changed it to do the um practice on Wednesday because kids were leaving. I mean we could get them there and they said we got to leave. >> Well, they've had practice since Dennis Riman's been here. So that's that that has nothing to do with this. That's why that's why they went to no Wednesday practice. But the thing of it is too is that wall in all the schools we visited with about the other things, wall is one of the only schools that allows early release specifically for church school. So if you look at if we didn't do that and kids had church school Wednesday night right after school, they

056wouldn't be a practice either. So that's why we just stuck with the no with middle school specifically um which club sports is separate. Club sports is its own thing that is not. This is just middle school. How far back has that policy been in place? >> Well, I think >> how long has it been? >> Goes back to I mean >> that's what that's when I I remember it coming into um >> Right. But they've had practice since Reman's been here is all I'm saying is like they've had practice in the last three or they've had there was practice on Wednesday nights last year. So there was >> okay then two years ago there was 100% two years ago. I think when I started and this is the thing people can say that there are

057new pol I I try to follow policy if you guys and that's why if we aren't following it let's rewrite it. Just because there's policy doesn't mean it's always followed. And that was kind of our point with the policy audit is we had before even policies that conflicted with one another. So >> it was just a pile on like okay we're going to make this policy that they pile on to this one when it >> goes against this one >> from probably the seven. >> So >> it was a but so this was it's all clean and done and now we just have these little edits and little tweaks that we're going to find and we're going to have to make. So so that was that. So that's the 3015. The 3015.1 then specifically addresses

058open gym. So we have as a committee and administration and talking to the other schools come up with what we think it is a bangup plan. I don't know. I guess we were all very excited about it when we left our meeting last day >> because it's all new. >> It's all new. So what this policy is proposing is it it defines what open gym is and that comes from South Dakota High School Athletic Association. And then it sets open gyms for Sundays. Middle school open gym 4 to 6. High school open gym 6 to 8. In South Dakota High School Athletic Association, if you pull up the handbook on page n, >> it's which we copied and pasted on here. It kind of lists out those things. You can't have open gym and call

059it open gym if it's specific to one sport. That's practice. It's not open gym. So open gym according to high school South Dakota high school athletic association you can you can split by eight people you can have high school so you can have boys basketball in there girls basketball in there volleyball you could have a wrestling match sparring whatever you want to do but what this does is it opens up some of that consistency piece that we're required to have the safety and liability piece comes in with uh the participants having to sign in and it having to be monitored by a staff member um and these staff members will sign up. They're working on a calendar, I believe, or some kind of system to keep track of who's going to sign up. They have

060to sign up by Wednesday so that they know that they'll have open gym on Sunday because there will be somebody signed up by Wednesday to run that open gym or to monitor that open gym. >> Why don't we just read let's read through that line by expect? >> No. >> Yeah. >> So 3015.1 open gym. The definition open gym refers to a period of time when a gym or fitness facility is made available to students or or self-directed use. During open gym, individuals can access and use the gym with supervision of a staff member. This is not an organized practice. Open gyms can be held on s on Sunday afternoons and these are the guidelines for that. One, coaches or staff will sign up and be responsible for the individuals at the open gym. Middle

061school will be from 4:00 to 6:00 p.m. and high school open gym will be from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. Two, all open gyms will be scheduled the Wednesday prior to the Sunday open gym. The coaches and staff will ensure that the school off will schedule sorry will schedule the school office to sign up with the open gym. Schedule with it should be okay. We will make that. Three, all participant all participants will sign in at the open gym. Four, opportunity for a split gym may occur. If you have enough kids that want to play volleyball or do, you know, wrestling or whatever, we have that curtain that you can drop down and still be able to play basketball on the other side. Um, and [clears throat] then five, all open gyms will follow the SDHsa

062rules listed below. And then this is copied and pasted out of the handbook. >> One thing I think you want to make clear is this is for this gym. It's got powerhouse is open to whatever. >> Yeah, the powerhouse is the powerhouse and it's it's it's its own deal. This is wall school gym and easy. We're we're getting feedback from parents from community members and they want to be able to use that and that's great. We want that too. We just had to come up with some kind of guidance for that. And we think that this solves that problem for a lot of people because it's open gym but it's available to everybody. >> But the open gym rules apply to both buildings. If you decide as a basketball coach that you're going to have

063an open gym, quote unquote, on a Sunday to try and get by the rules of what the board has set, then that is a foul and there will be repercussions for those actions, >> right? I mean, the open gym still >> if you decide that on Sunday at two you're going to have your basketball team over at the powerhouse and make it a practice, that's unsat. One thing I guess I so you know as far as the 4 to 6, 6 to 8, do you think that's really necessary or if they schedule? >> No, we do because and this was from visiting with the other schools. Um then everybody knows what time it is every week. >> So we have cuz what we have here is we cover a lot of ground. So we have

064rule kids that if they decide they're going to come in and they just know high school open gym is Sundays at 6 from 6:00 to 8 it's across the board. So it doesn't then just one Sunday happened to be you know at 2:00 in the afternoon and they they missed it because they drove in at 6. So that actually came as a recommendation from several of the other schools that we visited. >> Okay. >> Will that help with that? You know down here it says it has to be posted. >> Yes, it does have to be posted. And it will just be an ongoing ongoing thing >> as long as somebody signs up to supervise it. >> Yeah. Which is why they have to sign up by Wednesday. So it will be on the calendar

065every week >> if you're having one. And if >> unless unless we're not having one unless no one signs up and and did you guys say that on that calendar we'll also put the staff person responsible? >> Yes. Mhm. >> So that then you know that someone we got to have somebody responsible. You guys brought it to my attention that we've got some things going on. We have blocked locker rooms. We have tried to do some things to keep track of what our kids are doing. I would hope this does not turn into a Sunday evening place for kids to hang out doing things that they shouldn't be doing. And so I think we will just have to kind of watch that. But that's why I I mean I have confidence in our staff >>

066and I think it's very unlikely that who who you're going to get is you're going to get that three or four kids that that really want to come in and work on their skills and you know as a board I mean you hit the nail on the head. I don't think anything we've got here is final and we're not we're not perfect and and I'm sorry if we've ever come across that way. We've got to go through this stuff. We have to have people's input to do that. And you know this case I think probably in my mind a month ago I'm sitting here thinking just so you understand that I I have reason behind what I think. I don't wake up and just think something but I'm thinking in my head okay our kids

067are busy with so many things for six days of the week and and there really is a lot of activities. There's more activities than there's ever been. Can we give families a day when there's no pressure? And you know, after talking to people and putting some more thought into it, um, you know, I'm also a pretty big advocate for, you know, I want the community to use the space. I'm here for the rights of the parents and I think the parents have a say in when what they want their kids doing. And are we holding some kids back that really want to go out there and get better? And and I don't I don't want to do that. And so I think I think in this sense common sense has kind of come through. >>

068Yeah. >> Um I mean I you know I think we're doing a lot better here. >> Can I ask for some clarification? >> Sure. >> It also states here students. It is not discussing parents coming in. I will be honest when we had open gyms and Philip Ron Williams would come play against us and it was awesome. And that is what really pushed us. And we it was scrimmage, but it was open gym and it's parents making. And she wasn't a parent of a Philip kid, but it was awesome seeing these extra parents come in. And truthfully, it's just open gym scrimmage. And so I do have a little bit of concern of just students because what if some of the Philip kids want to come and do an open gym with wall kids? Is

069that a possibility? Are we strictly wanting it only high school kids and a staff member? I think where we run into community. So I don't I don't necessarily think that's a bad idea. We have not had any community members say they want to come in that I know of anyway that have been like we want to be able you know to come to open gym at the school. I think just because we have powerhouse usage for that kind of stuff. But I don't know. I mean are you asking about other adults or students from other schools? Well, as I'm thinking a lot of these parents coming from other these students coming from other locations, a lot of times their parents are with them because they want them to improve just as much. So if you

070put put that in there like must be supervised by a parent then >> well would have to be supervised by a parent because you're going to have you know juniors, sophomores, juniors coming in by themselves that aren't going to want mom or dad to come with them. Like my freshman's not going to want me to go hit a volleyball with her dad. >> So make her better. [laughter] But I don't know what >> I don't think there's anything wrong with having if a parent wants to bring their kid in. >> There is no out there. >> That's the way open gym used to be. I don't know about opening it up to other kids from other towns necessarily, but I mean >> would it be the sole discretion of whoever's supervising it who's allowing them

071in? >> I don't know. I mean, you get into I mean, they're there to monitor whoever's using the gym >> because I don't know like are can our kids go to Philip open gyms or any other we should ask around about just to find out the liability of that also. I mean, I don't if if a kid comes from Philip say and breaks something or takes something or hurts themselves and then their parents are mad at wall because you allowed my kid to come in and do whatever and I didn't know about, you know what I mean? So, I'm just thinking of like I'll just use traveling basketball as an example. You have >> kids from other other towns that are working together. Maybe they want to come in and shoot hoops with their teammates

072to better themselves. I mean, it's a possibility. >> Our policy says students, doesn't say we're all students, >> right? >> But our our policy doesn't affect a student from Phillip. Our policy is signed by students from this new. >> Yeah. Um we can talk about it, work on it some more. Like I said, nothing nothing is is final. We're still working on this. This is this we we think that this is is a positive direction to move in that answers a lot of some of these hesitations and these needs that are needing to be met. >> Students and the kids that are wanting to be in the gym on Sundays. I mean, if anybody has any input, call call us after the meeting. This is not final. >> No, I mean, we we're doc we

073we're going to hopefully because we're going to talk about these specifically here in just a second with some other ones, but um >> yeah, we kind of we've kind of covered them >> these ones, but we haven't done yet. >> Um well, with that, let's let's just move right into 13. And I I know we we've covered some of these, but we can we can continue to discuss or we can >> um you know, we can go from there. So, the first one's policy 315. That's our Sunday and Wednesday night activities. >> Yeah. >> Um >> did everybody get a chance to look at that or does anybody want to visit about that a little more there today? >> You guys have any question? >> I need to pull back up. Sorry. We all have

074>> it does state though under the high school activity association handbook open gyms are intended for students enrolled in your school district. South. >> Yeah. There. >> I'm gonna guess some time over the last 20 years they've had to had to maybe >> maybe that's something we can discuss because it says intend. It doesn't say must be. So there might be some wiggle room there. Like I'm not opposed to the the parents being involved. I >> the other community member or other different community students. I'm not real keen on personally, but like you know, Lij, if you wanted to come in with your kid, I >> Well, if I brought my kid and want to shoot around, I think that makes sense. >> Yeah. >> For time and family. >> Exactly. >> So, I I

075don't I don't think that >> I guess that that's that's one thing that I I hope we don't word that in a way that that a parent can't come in and play. I guess he's the >> because I didn't think that, >> you know, because you got middle school kid here anyways, >> right? >> Yeah. As far as kids from other schools, I think we're probably overthinking it there. I don't think that this is going to be used by a few select students that want to come in here and work. And so I don't even think we probably need to go down that road today personally, but >> because it does say individuals can access the general supervision of the staff member as long as it's not an organized practice. >> Yeah. But we'll set

076through policy committee is one that is always working in um 5003 is part-time students. We just added clarification in here. We had actually this uh started with the curriculum committee um with the criteria for receiving a wall high school diploma. Uh we talked about this and kind of adopted this in our curriculum committee. it just never made the all the way into the actual policy. So, we're adding that. So, the red is what we're adding into that. So, this would be part-time students. These are those kids and it starts with the freshman class this year. What we have are the kids who are homeschooled and they're coming for a class or two classes. And we are just putting some guidelines because we're at that point in in our society and culture where um if we're

077going to offer a diploma to these kids, here are a few of the guidelines that they're going to have to meet. And I didn't want I wanted to make sure that a student could come in as a junior and senior and still be able to get our diploma even if they've been homeschooled freshman sophomore year. This still allows a kid to either go at least four classes junior and senior year or if they've been homeschooled all the way up to the senior year, they need to take a senior year of classes with us to make sure that they >> so they'd be part-time, junior, and senior year. Core classes each year. Two of those have to be core classes. And if only a senior year, they have to be a full-time student. And then our

078administration is able to then transcribe their homeschool stuff into credits. >> And here's what board here's what my guidelines are going to be. I will not probably transcribe hit and miss class here. Yeah, I gave them a few math lessons, but if you can show me that you're using, which most good homeschoolers do, a curriculum of some kind, then those uh credits can be transcribed or you know, we have some testing. Uh but right now there's anything and everything. Nothing nothing is uh what do I call it? nothing. I can't ask any homeschooler about anything as they're doing it. They don't get tested or nothing. So, we have no idea what those kids have had when they come in. So, that's all that the red is that's it. This is a little bit about Yes,

079they these are this none of this has changed. >> Nope. It just adds a clarification. And we actually had this committee or this um curriculum committee meeting back in February hoping to get it all the way into policy, but we didn't we just missed this one piece. So again, it's a lot of policies and going to be tweaking things for a little bit. Just finding little things. So >> yeah, >> but those are the revisions and stuff you guys want to read through and then we go back to next meeting. >> School board. I'll add school board has three three main functions. You set policy, pass a budget, oversee the superintendent, and you know, so you got three things combined. And policy is just one of them. And um you know, again, I I think

080there's probably some things in here that are going to have to be ironed out. And you know, I really do want people to don't be afraid to come come say something. If there's something you don't like, something you don't you don't think makes sense. Your job is the board. And that's what gets tricky. And hopefully you elect a good board that you can can trust to to to do this for you. and and that is people have wants, people have needs. We have to look at the needs of the whole and and that's when you have to roll your sleeves up and that's when the work starts and that's why it's important to elect good people because hopefully they have good judgment. Um but if we don't have your employed then then then we're kind

081of blind and so um all kinds of stuff we overlook we'd love to hear from you. I do I do feel like sometimes it you know when you're on a board and that's part of being on a board and I I welcome it but I I think that if more people would sometimes say Rich where you coming from on that at least I could describe myself because in my head and I think for most of us here and all of us here I could say this as well is we're one port we're one person on a board and not a single one of us makes the decisions for this board but whether it's a bus or a building or open gym. Um we are trying to look at the needs truly of the whole board

082here >> and it's ever changing >> and and that is ever changing you know and so um you know man as long as we have these discussions and and we you know we treat some treat each other with some respect um you know that's that's all I ask and and uh but please we welcome your input. So, um, is that is that a wrap for the discussion of our policies? >> Okay. Um, Ryan, we'd like to welcome you on the 14th. >> All right. Well, thank you guys for allowing me some time tonight. Uh fortunately I was thankful to be able to get in contact with most of you over the last 10 days and left all those conversations really glad and felt like you know we all gained insight from each other. So super

083super productive in that regard and and I'm I'm optimistic that like you guys have already touched on we're moving in the right direction. we're not ignoring it and I hope that we can come out on the other side happy with how things look. So, um, yeah, I guess there's there's really kind of just one focus and this, you know, as I was talking to board members kind of everything started falling in place as far as ideas for me. And so I guess I'm just coming to you with what I think and this is again not going to include any middle school at this time, but what I can consider could be a tremendous opportunity as far as gym access is concerned for our high school kids. Um, and to kind of give some background on

084what I want to touch on here, I guess I just want to start off by reading the last tidbit of our Wall School District mission statement. And it says, "Thus empowering our students to fully develop their potential and lead and succeed in an everchanging world." And I think that's very intuitive for us in Western South Dakota. I think a lot of our pride comes from all of us, our tremendous work ethic. And you know, I think we can all agree that compared to the world, we have some of the hardest working people in this area. Um, I think it's and our our identity is rooted in the idea that we can make a difference and our daily actions truly do matter. Um, and if we want to be better, we have to take action. Um,

085it's super simple to say, right? I think if any of us have ever tried to do something to be more, to become better versions of ourselves, not so easy sometimes to actually imple implement those simple things. And I think that can be said as well in basketball as anything in life. Um, and so the last thing I just want to touch on is a statement that was posted to our Wall Eagles, I think it was our Facebook page, um, by Dr. Sally a few Sundays ago. And before I read it, just want to uh acknowledge tremendous leadership that Dr. Sally has provided for me helped uh facilitate different areas and I think is in a doing a tremendous job for our school as far as leadership is concerned. Go to a Christmas concert and you

086walk away just like wow where is that then you know so I think kudos to her for what she's been doing. Anyways back to what she posted and this was alluding to our Black Hills youth football teams who were playing that Sunday in the Super Bowl. She posted, "I'm cheering on all our activities. We have so many. Whether I can be there in person or not, I love watching our students participate and succeed in so many types of activities." And this last part is the part I really want to emphasize. Going back to her statement, she says, "I don't believe in luck. I believe in hard work every day, and good practice results in good performance. Go get him, Eagles. Dr. Sally. And I think, you know, reading those words, like all of a sudden

087here, we're just like get like it makes sense. Like it hits the hammer on the head. Like that's what it takes to succeed. Again, going back to our South Dakota heritage of hard work and again touching on what I alluded to to begin with, the full development of our potential. I think we say those things and it's again some somewhat obvious I guess to us that's what it takes to succeed in life and yet I feel a little conflicted where I'm saying that out of one side of my mouth and then if a kid comes to me on a Sunday and it's not very often but if they came to me on a Sunday right now and said hey coach like I want to do something special can I go to the gym today I'm

088going to have to say sorry buddy like I can't I can't let you and I just it's such a weird thing for me to have to even think about making that statement to him and so you know I after giving it a lot of thought and you know wanting to help the situation instead of coming to you with a problem I'm coming to you with what I think could be a tremendous solution to this problem and so I've spent a bunch of I'm I guess in line with what Hope was talking about speaking to schools and leaders, coaches I guess who have achieved at the highest level because I think again that's another um cheat code in life is if you want to do something great, go find somebody who's done it and ask them

089how they done it and then try to implement implement that in your own life. And so I'm glad that you tal uh touched on Elden Marshall because it was it was literally an answer to prayers for me that I was able to get him to tell him. And I'll just Yeah. He uh he he said to me four years ago about exactly they were in a similar boat to us. They lacked clarity on facility use. They wanted to promote the formula that had helped them reach 19 consecutive state basketball tournaments. 19 in a row. I mean, that is tremendous success. They've had numerous college players come out of their program. One of them being Louis Croman, who is the all-time leading scorer of South Dakota history still today. He went on to play at USD,

090University of South Dakota. Coolest thing about that whole story, guess where he is now? He's back in White River. He's the superintendent. What they're doing down there with their basketball and promoting life learning is working. And another kid that is doing tremendous right now is Joe Sailor. We had the privilege of playing against him. He's currently on the starting roster for the South Dakota State Jack Rabbits. I mean, it's just phenomenal what they've done. And I give you these details to ensure you that we would be following a tried andrue formula that has brought success at the highest level in athletics while also encouraging personal responsibility in life. And I think if there's anything that I really want to hit home tonight is sorry that last few words that I just said personal responsibility in

091life because I think that applies not just to basketball it applies to academics. It'll apply to their future careers whatever that may be. And you know for us as a community we're saying hey nobody's going to save you. like you got to do it yourself. We're going to give you every opportunity we can to become the best version of yourself. Whether it's in basketball, academics, extracurricular, anything, arts, whatever it may be, we're going to give you that opportunity, but we cannot do it for you. You have to take initiative. You have to be willing to put in the extra time on your own. And so yeah, I think with all that being said, you know, Elden, I'm not sure if he shared this with you or not, hope, but they have an existing policy that's

092been in place going on four years now. So it's tried and tested. It's right here in front of me. I think Amy, did you give that to all the board members? So you guys have it in front of you. And I mean, it is elaborate. They've done the work. They've had a school attorney go through approve it. like it's in use today. It's been in use for four years and they're doing it successfully. So, we have the blueprint and it's coming off of tremendous success. So, if there's a school we want to follow, it's that one. And I'm talking just basketball. I don't know what the rest of the school is like, but I mean, based on what we're trying to address here, that answers every question I feel like that we answer. the beauty

093of all of this and again like this all kind of unfolded as I talked and I think that's the beauty of me talking to you guys and just as a a future side note I don't want to get off track but you know hope you had touched on how many different schools and people you talked to and I would just say the one thing that is missing from that is nobody talked to me we just came off the most success wall has played basketball for 81 years to the second state tournament in school history we win our first game, went on to win two in the state consolation championship, [clears throat] most successful season in the history of law. And through all this, I have the previous handbook in front of me. I don't want

094to get caught up in these details because there they don't I don't want to take away from what I think is a tremendous opportunity, but in this previous handbook, I don't see anything in here regarding what we're talking about regarding Sundays. But anyways, beyond that, I think it would be in the best interest of our teachers, coaches, if we're going to change policies. I mean, it wouldn't hurt just to reach out and say, "Hey, like do you have any insight here?" Because I mean, why I don't I guess that that was one thing that I really was lost on like why did nobody talk to me on it? >> Do you want us to reach out to you to ask what you think we should do with the policy? >> Absolutely. Why would you not?

095>> Because there's too many policies to ask the opinion of one coach. We got the opinion of an entire law firms on all of our policies. >> Well, I guess Hope just said that she talked to numerous schools on on this one that we just >> on this one we just did, but that was after we had visited with you. Like I reach after out to >> Anyway, like I I actually apologize. I don't I literally don't want like that's not something that's not my focus tonight like that is we can address that later and I I guess if that's your preferred method that I can support that but my focus is I think we have a tremendous opportunity here to provide clarity for us as coaches the personal responsibility for the students and everything

096is covered so it's like I I can't think of a reason why we wouldn't try and see how it works. Like it it just I don't understand why we wouldn't give it a whirl, I guess. >> Right. The open gyms is what you're asking. >> No, no, not the open gyms. The person the So Amy gave you the White River uses personal use. Personal use. So that means I guess for an example if a the way and I guess you'd have to read through it but the way it's set up is if a kid wants to come in and use a high school gym they first in order to have access to that would have to sign a waiver. The parents would have to sign the waiver taking responsibility for that child. >> Right. Right.

097And they would have to contact me and say hey coach can I get your key to come to the gym? I [snorts] would have to grant it to them. Now there's criteria that has to be followed in order for them to be eligible to have that privilege because it's a privilege right so that would have to be qualified and then sustained in a manner that's appropriate if there's issues then I guess we all make mistakes in life and due to mistakes there's consequences so they would face consequences but it just it eliminate all this worry that we have of coaches trying to do practice what have you and it And it totally promotes the idea of a kid being able to do what they want. And it I mean it's a win-winwin for everybody because

098you guys win. We don't have to worry. We have the waiver. It takes covers the responsibility, the liability. The kids now have access. We as coaches don't have to feel like we're pushing the kids to do something that they don't want to do. Again, like I don't like coming to you with problems. I like coming to you with solutions and I'm happy that you guys are on the same page of hey like this isn't perfect. We're going to continue to alter and I guess the Sunday the Sunday gym uh open gyms I right now I don't I I've never never in my career coaching has I have I haven't had a have I had a Sunday practice. I've never had a Sunday practice. Yeah, I've had a few shoot arounds optional 100% that's known by

099my players. I've never had a complaint from a parent. never had a complaint from a kid. No issue. So the fact that you know that this is coming upon us seems strange I guess to say the le. Like I have never had an issue. So I guess my only question is is I coming upon us. I don't Hope brought this up during our committee meeting the other day and I thought it was very fitting. Uh, if you have a trumpet player, your trumpet player says, "Hey, I want to go to the school and play my trumpet because it's at the school on Sunday. Are we going to start granting kids access to the school to come play their instrument?" >> I would say, "Let's try to find a way to make that work or say

100that's why we have a powerhouse. >> The powerhouse that's why we came up that's why we were working on the open gym policy." >> Yeah. So, like this would actually not even be considered open gym. This is a completely different. >> So, and the issue I take with that is there is no >> security from the gym to the rest of >> Yeah. So, like I said, there's going to be little kings that we have to consider. But that goes back to the So, we can let kids drive cars to go deliver wheels on meals, all these things like we can ask a kid next year to go join the military and die for his country, but we're worried that we can't promote the idea of personal responsibility. And if they do access the school,

101guess what? There's ramifications and it's no more for them. So, it's like we're covering all these bases. And I think it's good to have those concerns. And that's why I think Elden Marshall was like such a blessing because they dealt with this exact same thing. But they were like, man, we have to we have to figure out a way for this to be accessible because that's what leads to the success. And then the personal responsibility aspect is what develops these kids to go do something on their own. like it's I I'm excited about it, I guess. And I think there's certainly maybe some concerns that we should address and I think you just touched on one of them, but I think that that can be remedied whether we figure out a way to lock these

102doors so they can access it or we just say, "Hey, don't access it." And like if they do, there's a problem. And there's not we're we're not going to have the only kids that can use this are kids that are in the sponsored sport. Meaning if you don't play basketball then you don't get to have this privilege. Does that make sense? You have to be a member of the team >> or volleyball. Yeah. I mean the sponsored sport. >> Ryan. So do you know what he does here or what this means? All persons using the weight room or gym during such a time. Am I reading it right? Are responsible for biting their own supervision but then later on. So, do they I mean, according to what they do, do they let kids go in

103on their own? But that says right there. So, I was just >> They're saying they're saying you are your own supervisor. >> Yeah, you are your own and that's signed off by the parents and they take full respons. >> I get it. I was thinking providing meeting s some adult supervision. Follow I'm following you. >> Yep. Yep. It's it's all covered. And that's where it's it falls back on the responsibility of the student and ultimately if anything should happen, you know, we're not planning on issues, but in the event that it does, it's covered because the parents signed up on it and they can choose to do that or not. It's not a I think if you not to interrupt you, you're good. If you're a if you're a kid that gets off work and

104it's nine o'clock and you say, "Coach, I want your I want your guard. I won't shoot till 10. That kind of kid would be a very brazen individual to come in here and claim. They really would. The kind of kid that wants to come in here at 9. So, it's not a risk that doesn't exist, but there is inherent risk to everything we do. >> And is there a way to make make this work better so the kids that want to work can work? And I I think that's worth us I think that's worth us trying to find a solution to. >> I think it is too, but I don't think it's policy. So to me, and this is it's really hard to write policy for a select group of students. >> To me, this

105is more building use, legal forms, things like that than it is than it is policy. And I'm not arguing that that this is important than for these kids. >> Yes. I apologize if that's >> but it's really hard. It's really really hard to write, >> you know, the policy that we wrote for Open Gym like that's for high. That's for >> I think you're right. I don't think this is actually I I'm incorrect in saying it's a policy. >> So this is a waiver. >> Yep. So to me that is something that needs to be looked at as like forms and and approval as opposed to being >> right >> policy. And I don't mean to interrupt you but this also their school and their gym and their weight room is all one building. Correct.

106>> Yes. Our weight room is separate from our >> So I mean you could actually if you wanted to eliminate weight room from this. I just >> I eliminate gym and we make it a powerhouse thing. Like I don't think that this gym when it's not supervised by an adult should be open this building should be open and available to a random 16-year-old. >> Okay. Hold on. You just said random. Okay. I don't mean Hold on. I don't mean random. So don't Yes, I did. Don't pick and choose the things I'm saying though. Listen to everything I'm saying. I don't say we or I'm saying that we don't allow it open to a underage individual without any supervision. That's why you have >> I'm speaking Ryan. Well, I I I think this is something we're

107going to look at and I think that it's something we can find a way to uh >> that's why we have the powerhouse rage and we can sign all the waiverss we want in the world, but that's not going to stop somebody from doing something that's stupid. It's not going to stop something from happening. >> But Bill, at some at some point, you have to have you have I guess I'm torn because I I don't want to give kids I can't necessarily give kids access to the to the school alone to run the welders. Um, but if we've got a single individual that is in good standing with his grades and good standing with with all the things he's doing around here, he's not in trouble and and he really wants to come shoot hoops

108and he goes to coach and now I've got coach's guard. That's between me and him. He trusts me. >> But it's not between you and him at that point. Well, that's that's why the powerhouse exists. This form here, this this waiver is because the White River School and the gym and the weight room is all one. So that that kid, that great kid that wants to go work on on his own has to have access to that entire building to go use one of those pieces. They do not need this waiver because they're already doing it with powerhouse access. And that's why the powerhouse is there. If my daughter was an art fanatic and she wanted to come use the kiln on a Sunday and she asked Miss Hayes, "Can I go make a vase?"

109Is that okay? >> No. But well, that's that's for the the board to discuss. But but I think that it's not unreasonable to say that there's certain activities that that perhaps we just we can't go there and there's certain activities where we can go there and there's maybe an age limit to you know when when these kind privileges could happen this this special access. I guess all I would I guess I would ask that we just yeah >> sit and discuss this and if we have to put this in front of um our attorney and get their idea. I mean I >> no no no no offense you know but I >> you didn't send it to her no medium and all of this >> I can't take you know just because it works for

110White River and in their case their turn sign up doesn't necessarily mean that ours would have a different opinion. So he needs to >> can we send it can we leave this here? Can we send this to our school attorney? make sure it aligns with written policy that we have and the other forms that we have because we're I think we're updating some of the other forms as well. Just make sure everything aligns and then we'll discuss some more as a and address security. >> Yeah. And address the the security piece and stuff, but we got to have we got to have some more conversation, >> right? Where do you see this happening? Is this like the morning early morning when those kids want to come in I guess or you saw students playing in

111there after board meeting or when you left a board meeting? >> I I would say whenever it's most convenient for them because all of us are so busy that it's hard to know exactly when. And I think that's why you promote the idea of hey, if you want to do it, you take the responsibility. Yeah, you're going to have to do a couple things. You're going to have to talk to your coach. you're gonna have to qualify in order to even have the privilege and then you take the responsibility and we're going to trust you. And I think that's like such a tremendous way to propose to our kids, hey, >> we trust you and we want what's best. Don't mess it up. Like don't mess this up. >> Would it be your card? Like

112they would come get your card and use your card. >> Exactly. It'd be coach or administrator. >> Coach the kids don't have like Oh, I got the >> No, I know. I'm just wondering as far as Well, we would probably have to have a separate type of cuz your card fobs the doors open. >> Uh, no. You have to It's just just bobby. You have to like hold it, pull back. >> So, we would like yours during the season fobs it open. >> Yeah. You're like, if you know the trick, it can different types of cards. So, like one that is yours and then one that would give >> Yeah, that would make sense. So, it's not possible to fob it open. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Can the doors be locked in between

113the multi-purpose room and the >> I don't think this at the building >> they would have to bring their own would they give >> that's what we were saying like with the little detailed part like that we need to just discuss more >> yeah no I I guess the thing that's I think awesome about it is it's tried it's true it's been done it's it's happening right now and it's succeeding and it's getting the results that we all hope for >> we just have to be careful with these kinds of things because we just went through a major policy and forms audit to make sure everything aligns with itself. And where we got to trouble before is the previous boards adopting things and accepting things like this that layer on each other and then they

114don't align with each other. So, we need time to be able to go through that. I don't think anybody at this table is not wanting the idea of our kids to be trusted and have access to these gyms. I think it's a healthy venue myself, but we also have to look at the the safety of the school and you know, not just a liability with damage, but injuries, vandalism. There is no barrier between that gym and the rest of the school. >> So, that is a lot of trust to put on a teenage kid. So without having a separate key fob and you know somebody present until we can come up with that legality barrier in a policy we need to keep our ideas on the table of hey we're doing this because of this

115we have to safeguard the school too. It's not that we don't trust the kids. We don't want that opportunity. We still have to look at the protection of the school, >> you know, but Candace still in my mind, I mean, I would think this would work in a way that it's the coach's discretion as well, right? I mean, it's his part. So, he's trusting this kid, right? And if he doesn't trust me or if he doesn't think that I'm capable of handling it, then again, the coach has to know that kid a little bit. And I still think that some common sense could be used. I would like to think there could be. Um, but you make a good point. >> We go back to the computers. >> What's that? >> Same principle with the

116computers. >> And one ruins it for the whole bunch. >> I know. And I hate to see that happen. >> It's not just >> right. It was, >> you know, and I think that's where it goes back to, you know, last year, for example, we have 15 kids on our high school basketball team. So, we're pulling out of this a group of 15 boys that I know extremely well. Okay. And so, it's not it's nobody random. That's for sure. Like, I know them well. Yeah. Not that. And if there's an issue, I mean, we deal with it. And it's life. I mean, it's messy, right? We all have kids. Life is messy. It's never it never goes like we want it to, but we continue forging together and try to do something special for our

117kids. And I guess that's what I've been trying to do. And I, you know, I hope you guys can see that. And I I want to do what you guys want us to do as well, but I don't want to I don't want to shy away from hard conversations, I guess. And you know nothing that I'm saying is anything personal. You know it's just ideas coming from me. And I think you know we can be in this scenario we can be an example to our kids of how you resolve issues. I think in today's world you can look around and see a lot of division a lot of hatred a lot of mishandled situations. And you know that's why I talked to each one of you individually. uh minus one I guess wasn't able to

118get back to me. Um but otherwise, yeah, I I think we're moving in the right direction. So, >> I appreciate your passion and advocacy for your >> Yeah. >> Um I can share that polic or this with the attorney. We do it is covered within our policy audit if the cost as or would be an extra cost for >> we'll send it over and just get their first opinion of it before >> and then yeah then we can set a meeting or >> I I don't know that we'll have a decision date on this in December necessarily but >> no but we could we'll start >> send it to where we can discuss some more and we can bring a >> recommendation with it if we do go this route there's going to be growing

119paints cuz we had it when the powerhouse was open too. >> Yeah. I guess the nice thing I will I'll take as much away from you guys as far as that as I can, you know, like I'll take the verd if there's something beyond me, I'll have to address that, but if I can handle it, like I hope you trust me to do that. So yeah, no, this is the kind of input we ask for. I mean this is good stuff. So, thank you for coming and uh if you have anything else, don't waste not. Thank you very much. >> Okay, with that uh we'll move on to number 15 ASBSD delegate assembly proposed resolutions and standing positions discussion. Um this is where I need to take some notes because I didn't actually print this

120off. planning on I'm planning on going to this print off real quick. >> Well, I can. >> Would you do it? >> Yeah, >> that'd be cool because then I could have it printed and I know what I have. >> Is this on the This is just on Yeah, I just looked up resolutions. This is not the standing positions. This is resolutions. Um, so you guys will be talking about those. Here are just some brief things. Now this is nothing notice they have been these are the things that the associated school board stands for. Um the first one is state funed preschool. So that's been in the works for a while as you notice. They've been trying to do this for >> every single year I've been there. >> Yeah. I personally I personally don't

121like state funed preschool but however you guys want me to vote I'll go. Well, that's one of the pieces that we've been talking about as far as child, not that preschool replaces child care, but when you look at how many even just not in school, how many of these >> I shouldn't say that I don't like stay preschool until I've done like more research and listen to people. I guess I >> we have a private school in our school. We offer the room. We don't charge for it. Correct. you know, so um but and it's working. There's a lot of kids that come through our preschool. [clears throat] Um but if that were to ever end, um it may be something you want to kind of have in your back pocket. that started preschool and

122building started the fall of 2000 when I came here and it was the focus was to allow them to use the the uh preschool and if we had a preschool student needed special education services the student would come to the um preschool and then they they could receive treatment or not treatment that were there services for that that would keep whoever the teacher was working with the student from going to the family's home. That was a really a timesaver for for us. That's why the preschool is in building like this. Um this number two that this is it's some of it's crossed out because right now um with if you're students got to go to school until they're 18 or 17. They can take the GED if parents um they can take a GED at

12317. Parents have to sign off. If there's a plan they can do it at the age of 16 right now. Um here's one curriculum adoption. They support the authority of local school. This is saying we have local control to use our curriculum committees and to um to choose our own curriculum. without notice statutory intrusion. >> So I guess when we're going through these, if somebody has something that we want to do no on, let us know because I guess that's probably best. I mean, most of them are pretty common sense. I mean, if we have something that we feel strongly about, let's stop and talk. >> This is on um so alternative instruction, which is homeschooling. Thank you. notice. Um, >> how does that work if the children are homeschooled, but they can be a

124part of the school's activities? If you can't test them, how does that like I don't understand how they can bring that. So, what they do is um we had one last year at a time. They send me grade reports and you're right. I kind of have to go off. We have no guidelines right now on homeschoolers. So, I'm just going to say you have very very very good homeschoolers. I totally support my relationship with homeschoolers or support a relation a good relationship with homeschoolers. I love that they feel confident in us to come to us for some classes. Um but I'm not going to lie, we also have especially 2020 and co really showed some things an opportunity to do a poor job of of homeschooling. and there's nothing we can do. Here's where I

125get a little bit nervous. Chuck and I have talked about it. There could be kids out there hurting. We don't know what. And right now, kids in our school, if a kid doesn't show up to school, if something happens, we can call and say, "Hey, are you okay? Is Johnny okay?" And with our homeschoolers, we don't know what's going on out there. we that love kids, we do get concerned a little bit about that. Um, so that's kind of the thing. Now, I'll be honest. I don't think our wall district has as much concern. Some of these districts are losing huge numbers, but I believe it's because my goal and my state is we keep a good relationship with them. We should all have the right to do with our kids what we need to

126do with our kids. And if that includes our traditional school and I guess thought is I want to provide a school that's got a good enough education that they want to come be a part of us. >> So anyway, >> so is that one I need to sum that up there? >> This is saying um that they will be held to the same training rules for those kids that are coming to our sports and our activities. they um will be held to the same training. >> All right. Okay. So, >> in other words, eligibility. >> Yep. We support that. >> Um Oh, this is >> samples and amendments. >> There's an amendment that's proposed for this one. um decision-making authority regarding transgender legislation. This may have we may want to read this uh dealing with

127school sponsored trips and our our attorney usually our attorney has shared with us recommendations for this. So if you notice it says within the parameters >> local school board. so the local control of your public school boards and school district are going to act in the best interest of all their students within the parameters set by the state statute. down below. If you notice, the proposed amendment to the resolution is in response to the new state law that dictates who can and cannot use a multi occupancy changing room restroom in a school district while a sleeping quarters procured by a school on a district sponsored trip. So, we had to write new policy for this also. >> I think I'm we're a guest on that though. >> So, your local Yes. >> Yeah. I you're

128under local control means it be considerable. >> Yes. Within state parameters, >> right? >> Um I mean so there's that. But yeah, right now >> one thing our policy does you guys some of those policies seem long but our attorney kept telling me whenever I wanted to kind of say do we need all this? She would say I'm right. It's written with state law in it. That's why it's longer. So I think you can trust that anything we have here right now is within state law. >> And what's nice about KSB is this policy auto number five. Um this is a new law Amy talked to you guys. This is school board. Oh never mind. And school bond elections. Yes. Um, if you notice here, what they're wanting, I think, is that the date should

129be selected by the local school board instead right now. What are our what's the law, Amy? That can only be June primary or >> November >> or the general election, right? >> This is saying >> they want to make it local decision so we can set our dates. But with where we're at, do you think we'd get a better turnout with having it when the other elections are going on? Like if we had our own dates, >> we usually try to do it like Amy said with the city or something like that. >> Okay. Just not the >> But I guess that's that that's basically saying you could still decide though and I don't think that >> right. No, not at all. >> Yeah. >> This one right here. So Mr. Sakora is getting letters

130ready to send or maybe already did. Um we do have a law we have to follow about immunization. Now in that letter it does not say you have to be immunized. The letter says what the law says but the way you either have to be immunized, have an appointment to be immunized or have an exemption site. and we have the exemption forms. So, um this is going to oppose it opposes a repeal of immunization requirements or expansion of the immunization exemptions um beyond what is currently permitted in state law. >> Same thing it was last year. They're basically saying leave it the way it is now. And I think that's probably fine. >> Yeah. you have an exemption. We're not going to push either direction. I think that's probably my logical mind just fine. >>

131Um, just going to put it out there. We did say December 1st is a deadline because to we I have to write off an assurances for our accreditation every year that we are following the immunization. >> Those letters out yet? They're in the mail right now >> because the mail is taking 10 to 15 days. If you have a December one deadline on there, >> you're running into Thanksgiving week and then you're going to have kids that need to be if they call us before then. >> Are they going to be that long and everything's in town? >> Yeah, because everything goes to Rapid and comes back here. >> I thought about doing second semester, but as We have to get it in like >> you know what if they get it and they're concerned

132about that date >> saying if you don't hear from somebody maybe call them be calling because they may not have ever even got the letter in the mail. >> Um Associated School Boards opposes legislation implementing a recall process for school board members. What's that? >> Currently, it contains a process for the removal of a schoolboard member for multiple reasons making the implementation of a recall process unnecessary. >> Is recall meaning like a prior school board member? >> No, it mean like if you're on the board right now and everybody said ridge is even worse than we thought. We got to get him out of here. >> Or no, he do something illegal or something >> unethical. Yeah. But no, you could get recalled just because, you know, yeah, popularity is not so good. I don't

133know what I think about that, I guess, because there there is, you know, there is within the confined state law um like a list, right, of what we've I guess legislators have deemed unacceptable enough to get you booted. So, should it stay in that or should be able to be recalled? I now we serve a short enough term um outside of something in state law that would get you in trouble. I think it's probably best not to go the recall route, but I would oppose that. Some of these that don't have any red means that they have been in the books for two years like this one 2023 and they still supported local patrol of facilities and activities. parent and guardian rights and responsibilities. We always um we have policy on that. School instructional library

134materials review again keeping it at the local level. That's what that's doing. 11 nonpartisan schoolboard elections. It's just saying that we don't. You're not like a Republican and a Democrat. >> They don't want to. >> Yeah. >> School board policy, uh, local control of school boards and creating. This is why I appreciate South Dakota local control mandates on displays in school buildings. I look at you guys the policies that we have put in place just cover all ex um this right here. Local school leaders can decide what should and should not be displayed in commons. I approve. The policy says I approve any posters that are are put up and like advertisements veteran state posters. Um sparsity funding. This is this is the um the proposed it's been in there since 2014. They did increase

135the sparcity funding a little bit and I don't know the whole formula for sparity but it's for schools that are rural small. Can you get a little bit of sparity? >> Are these are only the ones in red are the ones that are changing? >> Yeah, these are all I just with our new board members. Um >> can I ask a question? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, we're really pushing for kids to be home by 8. Can Brent be dismissed? >> Yeah. at 8:00. I was going to say you can go. >> I didn't want to say that though. I thought exactly what you want. [laughter] >> I have to go, but I was going to say at 8:00 you guys can go. I didn't realize it. >> Thanks. >> I know this is riveting

136stuff. >> Oh, it is. [laughter] >> Thanks for coming. Thanks for having me. Yeah. >> Uh school bond crew. So, let's keep going. Unless you have questions. Accountability waiverss. Now, um Amy, do we ever This is revised. Second sentence of the resolution was included in new re resolution. Amy has to we are accountable for making sure that we are paying the teachers right having the minimum teacher salary there is law about that now we've we've been good >> Amy does >> our very first year as a business manager we do not need that >> protecting school district EV valuations. Um, I know there's been lots and lots of talk about this because public schools are funded with taxes. And there's been a lot a lot of um talk about taxes, especially in certain counties. They

137oppose legislation that would reduce or cap any property valuations without the inclusion of a hold harmless clause for school. >> Yeah. >> Or unless an increase in the state aid percentage is provided to meet the full amount local need to account for the decrease in local leverage. >> Does that does everybody understand what that means? >> Share that a little bit. So with the state aid there's a calculation and with the local effort that goes in so what's supposed to happen in that calculation your local effort >> local tax pay >> yeah so like what your tax tax dollars for your your property taxes goes into that calculation. So that local effort is backed out. So if your calculation for your what it means is if your local effort goes down your state aid should

138go up. >> Okay. There are some districts, especially when they have lot of high price land, they don't get state aid because if our budget, if we need >> $7,000 a kid, >> then and we can provide that seven with our local taxes, then we would get state, right? >> Like if you're like, uh, I'm making this up. Let's say Alcester, South Dakota, $20,000 acre farm ground and you're a school our size. I don't know that that's the case with them, but like that would be >> like but then so yeah so there should not there should be a home whole harmless clause. So like >> we should not be as a school district penalized because of >> or lacking lacking tax revenue >> or like a valuation decrease. So if there was a say

139say the town went to heck and everybody's houses were worth half tomorrow basically >> our taxes would go down though. Well, let's say the valuations go down. >> Yeah, that's would be what it would saying that the state >> and our local effort would go down, but there was a cap on how much state aid you could get. There shouldn't be a full harmless. So, we shouldn't be suffering as a school district because there's a cap either way. >> You know what I mean? because then we'd be screwed because at the general fund is where we've obviously and you have to max levy in general state. >> So yeah, that's a we're going to vote yes there. Um >> yes, >> I will put a big Y right there. is funding for current technical education.

140You know, state typically does not fund any school facilities. Um it's you'll you can read more about it in the standing position. They've just taken it out of this piece. This is something we should be familiar with. Um we can transfer our money from capital outlay to general fund. I believe it's 40. Doesn't say it here, but is it >> is there a percent? There's a percentage rate. >> 35 or 40%. >> I was thinking 40%. >> Um, >> we've always done our impact aid into general fund, but you can you can transfer capital outlay funds. >> Capital outlays what we use for our buildings curriculum. The right Yeah. anything over a thousand. >> They're just they're just going to push for more percentage that can be transferred. >> Um, this is going to talk

141more about teacher pay. This new resolution would allow for associated school boards to support legislation proposing the suspension of teacher pay accountabilities in tight budget years where small or no increases in state aid are provided right now. We have to keep that average teacher pay according to state law. And this is saying we >> if there's no increase to state aid, there's no money to increase teacher pay. If there's no increase to teacher state aid, where are we going to increase teacher pay if there's no extra money? >> You don't have a choice. >> Property tax reduction. Um what you're going to find is associated school board because they are supporting the public schools are going to this is kind of similar to that other >> Yeah. They're going to really keep an eye on

142property taxes. >> Well, >> unless they write something into legislation to meet the local need. >> Yeah. >> Right. or if they're going to cut property taxes or if they're going to have a max on how much you increase those different levy amounts, then that you got to make it up in state aid. >> The Yeah, the the actual even though there's people that talk about repealing the property tax, they the likelihood of anybody ever doing that. >> So, and carrying that out, I think it's almost uh >> it's a talking point. It's not so much necessarily repealing property taxes. It's the max you can on each one of those different ones. So, it's like a owner occupied and other. So, the legislators they they set the amount on each one of those different categories

143>> and it so like last year they decreased the max >> percentage >> the ma yeah the max we could levy. So then that means less money for the schools because even though you max levy, >> right, >> that max amount that you can levy is less >> but it's counted by increasing valuations which is what they've >> but we always can we can the the caveat is schools and um municipalities can always they always count on increase in valuations. >> Yeah. So that's how we that that's how we try to because we have increased in prices for everything our goods our our our how much we pay our staff and stuff. So we have to count on those valuations going up to get more but when they have those different categories that are decreased

144but the valuations go up it's almost like a wash for us but everything that we're spending our money has gone up. So, when our our income is a wash, but we're spending more, that's where we're in a bit of a pitfall. You have to watch those things. I've seen quite a few of them lately shared on social media about the repealed property tax and how they're going to make up those that funding. Their math is not correct on majority of them. It's kind of like when you see those sort of penny in a jar every day for a year, $36,000. I try. >> Yeah. And so maybe I'm not saying you have to engage in all those posts, but when you see those kind of things, I mean, my mom just sent me one the

145other day and I said just do some basic math there quick and then take your post down. >> But then so you have to think too is like >> social media has stuff. >> Yes. But then you can't take blood out of return turnup either because even if you decrease the property taxes, where are you going to get the increase in state aid? You got to figure out like are we going to have increased tax? I mean like sales tax. >> So it's like where is the money? >> The unfortunate truth is our entire economy survives on inflation. >> Yeah. >> And all public bodies need it and the government ensures that it will continue to happen due to the printing of money. And so, you know, on one hand, we sit here and say

146we want to stop inflation, we want to bring down our taxes, but uh you know, that that that's me as a person, right? And then when you sit on a board where there's government money, it it makes it conflicting, you know, it really does. >> It's like I mean, you got there's like >> we need to protect our school is what we need to do and make sure that we have um students taken care of and and staff taken care of and that's that's the hat we wear when we're here. But it is conflicting. >> It's it's just an interesting because I grew up that rancher's kid that that's all we cussed was the high taxes and they shouldn't that's our school district didn't need that and I schooled on and on and on and

147now look where God come. >> What's too is like we could lower taxes but the state aid has to come >> be raised but where's the state aid going to come from? And and I think this covers they're still saying um without you know basically a clause >> and just just so you guys know anybody that's new this isn't >> these aren't these aren't bills. This is just this is just uh lobbying. This is how this is how we're going to tell you to lobby and we all come in here and say nope we don't want you to lobby this way then technically they're not supposed to stand there appear to lobby for it. So small >> districts all send a representative and they agree on what they're going to what they're going to go

148lobby. The last one is uh human resource and oh no it's not the last one. >> There's a lot I'm post bottom but um this is saying we have policy on our teacher hiring evaluation compensation and we do state education mandates. If you've noticed, you guys, the bulk of these is putting the putting the decisions back to the local school boards. And that's been South Dakota's grounds for ever since I've been in it. Funding federal mandates and programs. Um here is what um [clears throat] full funding for all federal mandates and programs funded by federal dollars because of all the tickets. You know, we may not get title monies. We may not get some of the you know, we we use title money from the federal, we use Perkins in our um CTE program. Do

149we get lunch? >> Yes. >> Yeah, we get lunch. So there's several different federal programs. While they question, you know, there's a lot of talk about cutting some of those. They're just saying they support it. School nutrition some minor words just changes in that. So a lot of these are just the standing revol revolution resolutions. E-ate we use that's how we use uh for technology infrastructure. Um, Becca is probably going to tell you, but we've just got a new five-year grant. Um, and she'll tell you how many dollars that's worth over the next five years. Every Student Succeeds Act, that is law. That's the end. That's what Ridge is going to go work through. >> Oh, there's another one. >> Yeah, these the standing >> standing positions. I mean, I I I don't think there's

150really been anything we've done. Is there much different same topics? >> They so they vote on these. I think it's first and it's basically their like kind of missions on certain areas. Um but I guess I would say everybody wants to like read through this on their own and um well >> Oh, should I say that? >> Let me let you know. >> Well, yeah, but then one person can't let me know. But if we see something, I guess if anybody sees something in these standing positions and wants me to call a special meeting, we can get together and do that. But >> only three of them that are that are changing, right? >> I can sure look it up here. um investment in education that's proposed presenting >> new funding sources for public schools

151including but not limiting uh including but not limited to utilizing a transfer for excess funds in the state general fund trust or accessing available trust provide much needed additional funding to schools. So they're just basically saying um can we look at alternative funding sources? Then we've got um the only other one they're changing here uh non-public schools or alternative education funding or establishment of non-public school systems. This has to do with vouchers. Um was talked about a lot last year. Uh ASBSD opposes establishment of funding of federal school choice program. Federal dollars shouldn't be reallocated to fund a school choice program, charter schools, private ed, etc. Um I'm all for everybody doing whatever they need to do to get educated. To me, I guess I actually in a way I agree with ASBSD because if

152I want my kid in a private school, if I tie federal money into my private school now, I have to follow the same reasons. We s we sit here and say, "Well, we have local control, but do you really?" Because you're tied to money and we all need the money. And so, we have to do what the pets say. And if I'm if I'm inclined that way, which maybe I a little bit am, I would rather have the say. So, I think it's perfect if you want to take your kid to a non-public school, then find your own way of funding it. That's perfect to me. Um, does that make sense? >> Yep. >> And [clears throat] most of our most of our uh strong homeschooling folks don't want this because of exactly what you

153just said. They don't want to be tied to. They're doing it because they want freedom to teach what they want to teach >> and when they want to teach it and all. >> So, um the other one here, student achievement. Um this is CTE option stuff like exploring and involving different opportunities or something. I don't know. >> There's a line in there about staying in school until they're 18 up top. >> Oh, yeah. And then there was the senior exploration stuff down the road. >> So I think in the past they didn't have anything in there about that before >> A2 and C8. That's what this resolution goes with is A2 and C8 which they're getting rid of. They're proposed for deleting to get rid of both. >> So the CTE email ones >> it

154I think the amendment has to work with the new uh law you guys that students can now there's they can earn their GED at age 16 with parent signature or age 17. They kind of have to have a plan at 16. >> So I think if you vote yes on A2 or C, you're >> well, they're gonna if I >> If we say yes on the standing position, they're pushing for that to be 18, which the current law says if you get your GD at 16 or 17, you would go, right? >> Yeah, that's currently. >> So they're just pushing to basically say we think it should be 18, not 16 or 17. Personally, um I think I pose that >> I have a handful of friends that even in high school graduated at the

155age of 17 just because of how their birthday fell and how their parents turned them. So I >> think if you go out and get a GED and you're determined to go do something else and for some they're not, but we talked about personal responsibility tonight. I think that um I think I think I would oppose this myself. So you're proposing because that red says in order for a student to achieve the high levels enrollment in school should be required until the student graduates >> or comma earns their GED or reaches the age of 18. >> So student >> Yeah. I'm just saying when they put that law into 18, you know what that created in our schools? Bunch of boys are getting >> major behavior struggles. And so >> wait a second. I need

156to be yes, not this. >> Well, we're yes with A2 and C8. I think we need to be yes on this one also. >> Is it getting late? >> It is late. >> Weird, too. Going through a lot of stuff and it >> all right. Well, get ready. >> It's going to get worse. Um, I think we've got this set up. This is going to be November 21st. I'll be in here at 1:00 Central time. I'll take my own vehicle, my own gas. I'm not gonna bug you guys. >> Yeah, I like my like my car. If anybody wants to ride with me, you're welcome to. But hey, I don't need anybody else because I'll I'll go there and vote on this stuff. But if you'd sure like to come, then have at it. So

157anyways, thank you guys. With that, we will move on to um number 16, appointment to legislative action network, LN. Um I sent that. Oh heavens. Yeah, I maybe don't want to shut it off. I need to put this back up. Um, let me find that email. We need to find somebody. There it is. [clears throat] [snorts] Um, we need if you want to I sent this in an update. Um, so the and I this is different than what Ridge is going through. >> This is our legislative action network members. Um, if you read a little bit there, please. >> Thank you. That was wonderful the first time. Sorry. >> Um, this is just a member district if we want to. They are encouraging us to appoint somebody to this network. They call it the land

158to attend to legislative issues. Land members and associated school board are the link between state legislators and your local school board. You'll be periodically be contacted by associated school boards asking them to contact legislators. It's kind of our connection where if they need, oh, hey guys, we need our legislators called for such and such and such and such. Um, not saying I mean I do a lot of work. In fact, I go to in December to superintendent meeting where we work through a lot of the same stuff. We also go to the legislature. Um, I'm just wondering if if any of you want to be nominate, not really nominated, but be appointed. You want to represent us in this organization. It's not really an organization. You notice legislative action network. So you're going to help

159make calls is what it's kind of about. Maybe you say Ridge is doing his delegation work. Amy's also on the delegate and de you're a delegate for the business managers. We've got two plus me. >> I don't think anybody has to feel obligated to to join it. But if you feel so inclined, I mean, you have we have the SPSD we can talk to and you send them to go do the the talking. You can still talk to your legislator as an individual, but if anybody wants to be great. Um, >> talk to me if you do. >> Yeah, >> that'd be something right up Tyrell's alley. I think we should just nominate him. >> I was going to say obviously like we're not going to say Tyrell is doing it but I really think

160that would fly back in oh no three days and what a treat. >> We'll call him as soon as he lands we gifted you. >> Yeah well we yeah better um if we don't have anybody that wants to do that tonight that's that's fine. We'll go on to number 17 um combined school and city election June June 2nd 2026. So, we established our schoolboard election on June 2nd of 2026. So, we usually try to um combine with the city like we've talked about. Um I talked to uh Carolyn at the city and they have not established their election, but they will be doing that next week on the 17th at their city council meeting. However, um because they haven't established their or their election, they um she wasn't able to send me a what it's

161what it's called is a combined election publication agreement. We usually do that with the city of Wall and the town of Wasa. So, basically what it is is we um share publication costs with the two other entities. um if you're okay with that because they they have the same requirements as we do as have when we can have our elections. Um so if you're okay with that um just giving me the okay ahead of time for Bridge and I to sign that agreement once they establish their election when they have their meeting and then we can share the costs of those publications. >> A motion. >> Yeah. because it's an agreement between those two other entities and then I will sign it because this is what we usually do is I sign it and then

162the board president signed it and then okay >> because we have to start publications right away in December. So, it we by the time we have I'll have to send or Carolyn usually um kind of does the work for me and the town of WASA and she sends all the publications to the paper before our next board meeting. So, if you're guys are okay with us signing it and giving me preapproval to go into that agreement, it just saves us money essentially. >> We have a motion. >> I'll make a motion to approve. >> Second. Second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. >> I. >> Post same sign. Motion passes to combine the school city election. Um all right. Number 18, elementary princip. >> Oh, start with the congratulations for the Black Hills youth

163football on their successful seasons. I also want to congratulate the football team for making their way to the hill this weekend. and um also the shattered testing students that Dr. Crower talked about. Last last month I showed data from the reading and um hopefully next month I'll have the data the growth for the reading and for math and then the last was the immunizations. So that's all I've got. have any questions? >> Thanks, Chuck. >> All right, K12 assistant principal and tech coordinator report number 19. Just a couple of things. We did go through the department of education for a risk assessment. I should be getting the final report so I can share that out at the next board meeting when we have that. I'm working with Golden West to build a 5-year technology plan

164that will help work with the -ate that we have been granted. We have 90,000 approximately to use within 5 years starting in February and it's a 60/40. So we pay 40% that will cover 60%. And then I don't think there was anything major unless you guys have questions other than those two. One thing I do want to add to her when you talk tech you guys is um so Eric Eisenbrron part of our managed services >> and part of my goal is a strategic plan. You guys approved three years of calendars um and that's going to be very helpful. We are putting together a five-year strategic plan. It's going to include capital out this maybe superintendent. So, I'm just moving into it. Oh, no. I won't move into it, but super um it includes capital

165outlay plan, technology plan, curriculum plan, and they're helping us. We've already started the technology plan. So, he went through with both of us kind of an analysis of our technology needs and then he's going to help us write plan for that as to needs and then budgeting. That's kind of the whole goal is that we can have a strategic plan going forth five years whether I'm here, whether I'm gone, whatever, so that you guys own it. School boards stay, administrators come and go. And too often what happens to a district is every time an administrator leaves, you got to pick back up. It shouldn't be about what the what the leader wants or doesn't want. It should be about what your district and you have established. And so often leadership flips that and that's why

166you're always changing things every time you have a new administrator because you don't have good strategic plan. So that's what we're working on. >> And if someday Dr. Krower wins the lottery and decides not to come to school when you hire the new superintendent, that'll be a good guide to picking the person who works best for you. Okay. >> Sorry, I said that much just on the technology side. Now I'll let >> All right. >> Business manager report number 20. Thank you. Thank you. >> Well, that administrator might not go for >> the lottery. >> I don't buy enough. >> I don't play ticket. Yeah. Said, "I don't believe the block." >> Okay. >> I've been [laughter] here almost 10 years, so I'm not going anywhere. Okay. Um, I sent you guys last I was

167just looking at last year's November agenda. And that's what I kind of do to try to build this year's uh November agenda. And I noticed we talked about bonuses. However, last year we had a better financial outlook than this year. So, I did send you guys in your Ford packet a spreadsheet um for Christmas bonus. So, I don't think we can be as generous as we were last year. I didn't know if we wanted to think about it in November or if we wanted to opt into November if we want what you guys wanted to do. Um, I kind of gave you guys my recommendation in the email. I don't believe we're already back in Christmas. >> So, Chris, so payday is November 20th. We did do that in November last year just to give

168a little bit of time for a bonus and for Chris ahead of Christmas shopping. Um, what where I thought we could find the money. Um, we're just tight. We're a lot tighter this year. It's not It's not as The only way I could find it is revenue. We don't have any extra money within the budget as far as expenses cuz we're going to be spending everything we've budgeted probably. Um, where I found any additional money is I budgeted um a little about 22,000 less than what I thought we'd get for revenue in taxes. Now, we're going to need all of that for expenditures and here or there, but we could use a little bit of that for a little bit of a Christmas bonus, but I don't know what you guys think. or we could

169move it to after insulation. [clears throat] >> I like I love being able to do a Christmas bonus and I love that the school has been able to do that years past and our our budget being tighter um makes it more difficult. I mean I think think we did 5 we do 500 last year. >> We did 250 last year. So, we could do the same 250 for the full-time staff. >> No, we should not. >> I think we should do like 150 or so. >> No, I um would not recommend doing What does the budget allow? >> I would recommend between 100 or 150 max. I would look at >> well I don't feel that the bus drivers part- timerrs all those get deserve I shouldn't say deserve that's the wrong word but are

170entitled to the same bonus as full-time employees that's >> and you've never done that >> okay that's I don't >> this is just full-time then is that what you're saying >> so yes in that um >> in that spreadsheet if we were to just do full-time staff a $100 bonus would be $4,200 total. And then if we were to do $150 6,300. So when we're t I mean it's very expensive to do a box. So that's I mean $100 for a I mean an individual may be like oh that's not very much but for an entire I mean for the entire staff it's very a lot >> for the organization there's a lot of >> I do think we should look at the long-term subs maybe two >> we've [clears throat] had two long-term subs

171that have been here throughout the whole semester >> like they've been here the whole whole first half of the Oh, and therefore I mean essentially they're so I would I would say we'd make that exception. >> Oh yeah, you're right. They're right. They're half time. Oh >> you can split the bonus. >> Whatever you decide you can split the bonus. Yeah. So, we did the 150 and then scaled it between us. >> I'm saying we have all our fulltime and then we have two we have two long-term subs that have been here since beginning of school year that every day September 30th. Well, covering second. Oh, >> so they same >> maternity >> they get 75 and the other the full-time staff would give 150 that were they here every day like everybody else would

172give them >> every okay so yeah there's two of those >> there's two of So really it's a one full tax, >> right? One. >> So instead of the 6,300 for the 150, we'd be looking at 6450. >> Yeah. >> You know, and to me the these are situations where there's a lot of things we talked about spending money on the board and and Bill, I know you brought it up before, but whether it's a bus wrap or a bigger bus or a I would rather spend the money now. This is where I would rather spend the money. >> Yes. And I think many would to me to me the rest of it, you know, I'm I'm not I'm not as uh excited about it. >> I agree. >> You know, it's sad to me

173that we could, you know, spend the kind of money or talk about spending the kind of money we do on some of the things we do and then, you know, 150 bucks is a stretch. It's not the fault of anybody's here. I'm not saying that. But I'm just telling you where my mind's at. That's me. >> I agree. >> Agree. Now, I think if we do something like this, we've done like end of year parties or those type of things, we should probably cut something like that. >> Honestly, those are expensive, too. There's >> I would rather give them 250 bucks and not have a pizza party or have a party at the end of year. >> And that's just my place of employment. I'm like, >> we could go do a potluck over there,

174right? >> You guys want to do a self-funded party at the end of the year. >> Yeah, we can go buy our own type deal >> because we've done a Christmas part. What is it? We did a Christmas party and we paid for all the food and that is very expensive as well. >> Is there >> I don't think we can do both. >> Is there an end of the year thing built into the budget already? >> Yeah, but Well, no. We usually so I usually over budget and we're really like there's things that we've had to pay for that >> were more than what we expected and it's just >> it's it's the reality of >> it's just things are way more than what we budgeted for than I've ever had. >> You know

175what we could do is do a couple of of concession stands. [laughter] Chuck is volunteering. >> You heard it, Heather. >> So, I think that I think that we're somewhat in agreement here on the one the 150. Um, >> and I just uh, you know, I we appreciate our staff and wish we could do more, but there's there's only so much to work with. And, um, you know, I I think we've been as generous as we could, and just passed as much as we could. Yeah, >> that's where I'm at. >> Yeah, adding the two long-term split each. >> Sounds good. I will add that to the November. Thank you. >> Thank you. Is that all you've got? >> Do we have a motion and second that since we >> I would app and bank

176my Yeah, let's do it. Bring a motion to pay the full-time employees 150 and the two part-time employees 75 each. >> Second motion second. Any other discussion? All in favor say I. >> Same sign. Passes from the Christmas bonus. >> Second. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Got losters. >> Number 21. >> Um I'm going to just start with this week. We just got a lot of details going, you guys. Um, feel like I'm running behind all the time. This week, tomorrow morning, I invite everybody to our 9:30 Veterans Day program. Our Veterans Day program is also dedication of the new flick. So, we've got a special part. Our new or not new, but our um music program with our long-term subs have asked to do more music. So, there's more music. There's just several things

177in this program to honor the veterans. That's tomorrow. Wednesday, we dismiss at 12:00 noon because of the FFA competition here. So, all of our teachers will be either helping with FFA judging or working through the day, but the students will leave at 12:00 noon tomorrow or on Wednesday. Let's back up. I'm also going to make sure um Mrs. Myers is going to get it out to the public, but um Tuesday night there is a gathering, good luck gathering is what they called it, I think. Um for the football team at Salty Steer at 6:30 Tuesday night. Wednesday we get out at noon. Thursday. Um, we are planning to have a full day of school. If kids are called out, they to go to the game, they can go to the game. Um, they'll be gone,

178but I'm going to treat it like a school activity exception. Um staff who are parents of players can leave at 2:00. Mr. Sakura, we have decided we will cover, we will combine. I want people to go as they need to, but we're still going to have a full day of school or Thursday. Thursday morning at 8 there will be a pep rally at the gymnasium to send the boys off. Our game will take place on Friday at 9 our time, 10 Easter River time. What am I missing you guys? >> There's the welcome back piece as well. >> There will be a welcome back on Saturday at 5:00 >> starting here. And then again, I think they might go eat at salty sear, but that is uh but our welcome back will be here at

1795:00. What we decided on I think that is this week. Um just something else that has kind of come up that I put down is NCS and you guys, it's a test that we have taken, the state has funded it. It's all of our seniors take it. It is what we use. The state used it to show if we are career ready. So we have to have a parts college and career ready. That's points we get for the state report card. The state is not funding that anymore. So then Kelly and I we we talked about is it doing our kids enough good to be buying it and paying for it. What we found is that the OSHA that we are making all students who take any CTE course, all freshmen taking a CTE course

180are going to go through the OSHA training and that also we dump that into the data and that will count as our uh one of our certifications for career ready. So, we probably won't be taking that NCRS test. um because we're having to pay for it. Um something else I have to remind you about is it is time to be thinking about my superintendent evaluation. Um I think policy says we will decide on the tool December. There's two options. Associated schoolboard tool, which they used last year, and our KSB attorneys have a new tool. We found out it does cost $1,500. I don't think I'm worth that, but you can do what you want. >> Well, what Let me ask you this. What did you think of the tool from last year? The ESPS form.

181>> It's good. Here's what I think. I feel that we have a relationship. You guys come in when you have things. I attend every committee meeting. Um, I think that one is all right. Maybe it's not as convenient for you. I think the one with KS KSB is like an app, right, Amy? >> So, it's maybe handier. They were just piloting it last year and they wouldn't let us use it. If you remember, you said we'd pilot it for them, but I don't believe they wouldn't let it go out at that time. So, I can't really speak to that tool. >> So, that was included with our everything we did. could sweet talk Sarah into being like, "Hey, >> we tried, but they won't let us leave it early." >> I think consistency with the

182form as much as possible, >> I think. Instead of changing it every year, using an app that'll just >> Well, we all do our own form and then we sit down and discuss like we did prior and then we all >> list. Yep. if there's something you want to see different or some something like that um in terms of you know that you don't feel like the evaluation covers and you'd like to have our discussion on it then you could let us know that but I think we'll go with the same same format we had last year and just kind of go from there >> you guys also have to think about an evaluation for me now yeah because mine is not do you have >> that that the I mean it's very dramatic. It's

183like it's not I mean I asked Sarah if there are if they do have this due to school >> you might not like this but I chat GPA Jack chat GP it found a fairly good evaluation for principal assistant special direct special ed directors business managers and we can personalize you want to go look at that. >> I like that idea. At least look at it and get a rough idea. >> It gave lots of when I when I threw it in, it just gives lots of um radiance and then rationale. >> It just says for me it's just I have to be evaluated by the April board meeting and yours is we do it in January. That's what your contract says. So, we have a lot of time for mine because policy says it

184just says whatever it states in your contract. >> Yeah. Come. We just looked at my contract and I think it said by January, right? >> And I know things got really busy last year and so we talked about it for several months. >> What year? >> Because we need to have the need to have the paperwork in December so we have some time to do it. So then in January you >> Well, it got really late. Maybe you wanted a special meeting. >> We ended up doing it. We we we kept having meetings and I was in Sou Falls with the problems that I was having and then I think the meetings were all we had two pages of meetings and we never it was 10:00 but one day but >> we gave up. But

185I think if we bring back the um I guess we'll start with you and we'll bring back at the next meeting the ASBSD packets we had last time. We'll fill out the eval come back to the January meeting. Yep. >> That's when we'll go. >> Well, yes. That's when we'll go forward with it. >> Yep. And I think uh unless anything crazy happens, I mean, I should be able to handle that. >> Yeah. Unless our agenda is 45 pages long, then I think he's set a scheduled special meeting. >> Yeah. And I'm fine with that. >> Yeah. >> Uh this is the only thing other thing I want to know from you guys. Life has been crazy here and I don't know what's different. Um, I never scheduled Wade or KSV to come in and

186do any board training. Now that we've got everybody here, I think it would be very beneficial to have them come. Wade I know wants to go a little more than governance or he keeps offering with couple new members. Do we want to redo governments? Do we want to add some >> I would like to continue kind of with growth >> last year. I feel like that was a really good one. And I >> like what we when we went somewhere and did it a little bit of a retreat that we did it in February last year, >> you know, and the governance though, I mean, I do think for the newer members too, like when I got on this board, you know, there was I think we had a governance training not long after I

187started. >> Boy, I learned a lot. I know >> there's a ton of stuff that you don't even know that, you know, I wouldn't have known necessarily. I could have I could have done something illegal that I wouldn't have even known. >> Should I ask him to do a little bit about maybe not not new, but review that and then >> keep working through our where maybe bring us back around to our goals and where we've been and what we've done with those and >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, I almost I wonder if you could do a board retreat thing that was kind of centered around governance because I do think there's a lot there that could be impacted. Now, if we need to go back over our goals again, we can do that while

188we're there before we leave. >> But what do you think? >> No, I think that's topic. But >> okay, >> there's so much there that you'll learn. No different than even, you know, if you go out to eat tonight at Badlands and somebody comes up to you and wants to talk about this. Okay. Wait, no, that's not for me to talk to you about. That's for me to say. Those are things that I didn't know. There's people just assume if you're on the board that you just been open book and and that's uh that's open communication and that's not necessarily the way it's supposed to be handled. So, I think that'd be good. And I'm good with anytime this spring. I don't know if anybody has preference, but February or March. >> I think it

189gets really busy again. March and April. >> I mean, >> we did like an earlier though. We started with like four and Yeah. I think that's a better idea because then we can we can pay back for that. >> And I'd like it early, too, so that we can put it in our plan for what we're going to do next year. >> And then it's Oh, early in the year. >> Early in the year. >> Yeah. So do I. >> That way that way we can plan for we can start making plans for next year with our staff development and other stuff. So >> um I remember something I forgot about you guys. It's going to be before I mean we're not meeting before Thanksgiving. We do get out not at noon, 2:00 on the

19026th. So that's the day before Thanksgiving. Um because I know this does affect I just want to make sure everybody's got the music um concert December 15th on their schedule. C Music Music at the Capitol. I love this music Christmas at the Capitol is going to be Saturday, December 13th. One of our long-term subs came into me the other day and said, "Sally, you don't have to worry about any of this. We've got it all organized." Perfect. Absolutely perfect. So, even though our music teacher is coming back that week, those ladies are going to stay through the concert and and go to the they're taking the kids I want to go with, but they're taking the kids to the capital on the Saturday. >> It's kind of nice. It's I mean, I like it when

191it's a school day when all the kids, but it's kind of nice. on a Saturday so that >> we could go to >> and they will get the feel of more visitors at the capitol, not just the noon time. >> Concert starts at >> 6 and it's K12 again. >> Yes. And >> it's not a holy day. Last year we fell on a holy day. >> Didn't even check that. on a holy day too first day. >> It's not 15. >> Before we're done, I want Mrs. Myers, would you please share the update on the app? We have our messaging out. You've maybe received different messages. So, I'm good for a snow blizzard. God forbid. I just want good moisture. >> Um, I'm still working to get the notifications for Apple, but if you have

192an Android like I do, the notifications are working. >> So, if someone messages you, then it will pop up with a little eagle at the top of your phone. So, I don't know. It's an Apple generated app. I don't know why it wouldn't work the best with Apple, but you have an Android, it's working just >> Is there a trick to logging into that? Because it says on the instructions to click forgot password, but when I go there, there is no forgot password. >> Yeah, that's then it's contact me and I will work with getting you in and then after you're in that forgot password magically shows up so you can change it. >> We have to add major in meetings. >> That's a nice feature. >> Yeah. [laughter] So, right now I I will

193put another post out, but I'm really honestly waiting until after Annie Junior is done to do anything with the app that requires a bunch of emails because I don't want to miss one. >> And it's still separate from Infinite Campus, right? Like they're two separate apps. They're not >> correct. >> Infinite Campus has no app. >> Yes, it does. >> Parent appal. >> Oh, parent portal. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is it possible to kind of put them together so it's one login? >> That was the goal, but they have it as the email because if you don't have the email, you cannot utilize the forgot password feature. So if we can convince everybody to switch their Infinite Campus username, their email definitely could do that. >> Apparently I'm learning over here struggling with the parent

194portal. [laughter] >> Thank you. Security has just driven us to a crazy >> Yeah. >> It's very convoluted and it takes us a lot of time. You guys all work in this system where everything takes time to move from one place to another. >> Yes, >> that's all I have you guys. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. Um Sally, we're going to move on to number 22. Can >> we take a short recess? >> Yes, we can. Let's take a recess and we'll come back. We'll move on to 25. >> Um, if we are just following if if this is all worth going over. >> Yeah, it is. >> It would need to take more than two minutes and if you read your packets and don't have any concerns, we can move to 23.

195I don't know. >> Well, you got to go to the restroom. >> Yes, I do. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah, there you