001It is uh June 4th, 2025. This is a policy or a meeting, a committee meeting with budget and compensation. We have a couple items on the agenda uh that we'll be looking at and discussing or at least getting uh before the committee. Mrs. Jones will not be here today for u health reasons she's having with her husband right now. So, uh the committee is made up of um Miss Beth, Miss Holly, and Mr. Hanzert. Uh, Mr. Ballard is also present. Uh, Mr. Costco. Uh, Mr. Costco. Is it H or R? Costco. No, not you're in the baseball. That's Scott is here anyway. Um, but and and April is with us and Mr. Shores is in here. Mr. Damewood. Okay. Uh, first thing I think we have on the agenda. There was um back about I
002guess last board meeting the board approved a job description for a head mechanic at the school bus garage. And uh I think that's part of the concern today is the the compensation that the board is considering for um the head mechanic which is Mr. Holland I believe. And uh so I guess we're right now open for discussion or whatever you might want to come up with. We've gotten some figures from April and Amanda from bookkeeping and park department and what have you. And uh Mr. Harker will have we'll have some information to share with you. So I guess we're just open for discussion. Uh if y'all want to start or let Mr. Scott start, whichever. Go ahead, Scott or Mr. Tardro. Thank you, Dr. Pal. Um at the during the May board meeting, uh Mr.
003Morris spoke and there was discussion on the um at that meeting with some experience that one of the board members could write and vouch for. Um that kind of gets us to where we're at now. Mr. Morris also spoke about some additional pay for being the lead mechanic and where where he started uh the gentleman in question started is at 16 years with those recommendations that put puts him at 21 years. Um, you're looking at a 4% increase in pay that is across the board for for employees as well as the $500 a month supplement for being a head mechanic. Uh, that was all recommended during the the meeting which Mr. Morris. Um, after a couple conversations with him, he feels like the gentleman would is is good with the amount, but it took him
004from 49,385 to 60,977. And if you need those numbers repeated, what was that? Sorry. 49,385 to 60,977. Okay. 45. You said 45 49 49 I got the last one that that April gave me was 459 190. There was a corrected Yes, that was corrected, Mr. Hanzer. That uh there was a correction from the bookkeeping uh somewhere during the uh year there was a a correction found and his salary was at 49 385 for the the the 25 2425 school year. So yes, that wasn't that was an initial init that she gave you, but that was found to be uh needed to be corrected some some point in time during payroll. But there wasn't an error in paying him, right? So there was initially so when we roll our um payroll system we have people that
005sometimes don't get they roll back to the same year that they were already on and we try to spot check several people in different areas of our budget. Um we did catch it. I think it was I'd had already sent you guys out the information the pay information. Um but we did catch it. I think it was in October and we we've already paid back paid him. So, we took care of that and we we notified him that we had the issue and then we asked how if he wanted us to respread it or lump sum and so we made it right for him and so in the initial file I think that you guys have it does say the 45 but I think I corrected that and gave that to Dr. Pal and passed
006that along. Yes. So, not to venture off subject but how do we know that hadn't happened to others? Well, we we um when I go through the like every month when I go through the budget, like that's I I do review of every payline in the budget and things like that fall out. And so we do we do spot check as much as we can, but we have, you know, sometimes 800 employees that in a in a month. So, um we have contacted our payroll company and they're aware of the issue. It was just an old program that software Mhm. that is they we've told them there's a glitch in it. They know they're aware of it, but it does and it's this is not like the first time it's ever happened. We usually have
007those almost every year. Just curious, what is the software? It's called Siesta. Okay. As I had recalled at the last board meeting, we discussed this was presented the fact that he had years of experience that we were going to recognize. Had that been done? Yes, ma'am. He he he had 16 years and Mr. uh Mr. Gilly wrote a letter in support of the other years of the 16. So, we're adding Yes. Okay. Good. Well, it's actually the next year and it ends up the mass right 21. So, he'll get a year for this year. So, when we roll him, he'll go to 17. And then we had the letter takes care of the other years. So, correct me if I'm wrong. The letter that Mr. Morris sent out said 23 years with a um $6,000
008additional to his to his salary of $6,000 annually. This would only be an extra $500 per month. That's where the 500 comes in at a cost which would be would save would save us obviously what he's saying. So, with my calculations, and I'm not I'm just figuring up the 45 with uh I guess why are we not giving him 23 what Tim asked for? I don't know where Tim got his figures from, Mr. Hanzert. But, uh we talked with uh I talked with Tim on the second time, couple of different times I've talked with him. He's talked with Mr. Harlo and he I don't I don't know where Tim got his years to start with. I think it probably when he said he worked for this company for so long and this company for so
009long. I've got two letters here that's from Mr. Harlo that documents the 23 years that he's got. Well, the only thing I know is that that Mr. Morris uh talked to Mr. Harlo and told him the what we had come up with and he was very satisfied with that 21 years experience. So, I don't know I haven't seen any letters from Mr. Harlo. I don't know where they came from or who got them, but I haven't seen any of them. And apparently Mr. Mars hadn't because he didn't say anything to us about any other pal. They went to pull them from his file. Uh, Dr. Pal, and they weren't in there, so he reprinted them off. Or who who printed them off? I mean, uh, where did they come from? He I'm not arguing with
010M. No, Mr. Harlo got them. He went back and got the people to write another letter. Well, we haven't seen those. Okay, here you go. And Mr. Mars apparently hadn't seen them. And I haven't I mean, all we have and I haven't looked at his file and could be something we already have in his file. We went through all of that, but I wasn't aware of the letters either. So, I haven't checked his file to see if there I mean, I'm just going on what Mr. Morris, he had already said that he had documented it uh at 23 years of experience in auto and diesel mechanics. However, like y'all were saying that uh he is only being paid for 16 years. This discrepancy is due to the fact that some of the former employees have
011either gone out of business or uh or or or are deceased. So, I mean with that being said, I mean that he ought to be up around 65. Mr. Chair, just quickly, I know we do Whenever u somebody turns in for experience, I know that Mr. Hargrove would not be aware of this yet. Dr. Pal has done a few of them. Uh there are certain criteria that actually has to be provided to to give an employee those years experience. uh it can't be just a letter from somebody saying they have worked in this many years. There needs to be more data to that, more true information because if you're if you're not careful, everybody can or many people can actually get somebody their neighbor to write a letter just saying they have worked doing this
012for this many years. So there there's a little bit more to it than somebody just writing a letter and saying they have done this. You you've got the things that we normally look for and uh the director is usually the one that actually does the the signing off on it. Uh I do read those, but they're the ones actually that signs off on it. It's a letter head. Uh it's actual dates. It's uh it could be records from uh where taxes was turned in showing the actual amount of time that they have worked. Uh how many hours uh because somebody can say I've worked at this for this whole year, but it was only two days each week. Well, that's not counted as a full-time job. So, you can't go that direction. Uh and and
013and the director's goals usually is to give them as much as we possibly can, but for our auditors, we have to be able to prove and show that uh we have the true knowledge that they they provided that they did that. And so so that's kind of the direction we usually do. But I I just want to make that mention of how we normally go about trying to give the uh experience has is turned into us. Okay. So I have a question on that because this is was brought to me um not by by this gentleman but another employee um a couple months ago and I spoke with Dr. Pal about it because I I did not know anything about it but it was a custodian. Remember us talking about that? and um they were
014trying to get hours for cleaning a restaurant and then cleaning people's houses. And I didn't know and I don't I didn't know if there was a how that was decided. Um I think there was an issue maybe with letterhead or whatever that her letters were written on. But uh is there a policy or a procedure that we can fall back on and say this is what we go by? I didn't know what to tell her. This this was actually a procedure that went through the compensation committee what Miss Melson two years ago I guess I believe so. Yeah. Uh that was this whole setup. Well, I've always believed as in my position and before I came up here that teachers and certified employees received their year's experience when they moved from one school system to
015another school system to another school system. it traveled with them the entire amount and whenever I came here or or up here I started realizing the s or classified it wasn't working that way the most that anybody would get was five years and and I I didn't agree with that if you have that many years experience I felt like we should treat our certified the same as we did our certified with experience and so that's the reason why it was brought up okay but the The difficult thing is they it was put on the employee to be able to prove it. They have to be able to prove it. If they can't prove it, then you you otherwise we're just giving everybody the same experience. And but you if you can prove that you worked
016full-time for the full year, then you would get the full year with that uh position. But but it's just the procedures that has been taken place and and usually the director is the one well the director is the one that signs off of them. Well, I I'm just asking because um question. Yeah, because I can see this coming up a lot more and if we have I don't know if we have a policy on it or if we have a procedure or whatever on it, but it would be great to be able to fall back on something to cover us if nothing else to say this is what is required. And I agree. I don't think it would be a policy. It would be more of a procedure set to to be able to show
017the proof that you have right the years experience that you have these certain things these these type things and and like I said it's it's legal documents. It's it's actually being able to show legally that you or that employee was on the payroll can prove that they were on the payroll for a full-time position for that entire time. Right. Or even if it was like someone that had their own business, they could provide us their documents. Yeah. Saying this is the years I had my business, right? And we were we were able to use those as well as experience. So we didn't just narrow it down to like letters and we tried to be as open-minded as we could on some of these situations. Really, I guess try to be consistent, you know, so that
018there's no question. Okay. Mr. Harrove, is this going to be a supervision position? No sir, not necessarily. He will just be head mechanic. Mr. Morris is still supervisor over school bus garage. So, it will not be a supervisor position, per se. And how many years has he been with us? 16, I believe. That's what we're paying him on. Um, I'd have to look and see. Let me look and see if I find his fire date. I believe he did bring some experience with him and and did receive experience before, but I I don't have that information directly from me either. I guess my my thing that we need to watch out to as far is this young man is a you can go two miles down the road here make 3750 an hour tops of
019machinery. If we were to if we lose this gentleman and we take this bus to a bus garage, it's $217 an hour. Mr. Hand, all I know is that I have spoken with Mr. Marsh on two occasions within the last four or five days. He has talked with Mr. Harlo. Mr. Harlo has indicated that he is perfectly fine with the uh experience, the 21 years experience we're giving him, plus the $500 per month, which would be $6,000 pay raise that would be in there every year, plus the 4% that they've already gotten. He said he would be that he would be fine with that. Now, I haven't talked to Mr. Harlo. I I have. Well, I'm sorry. I haven't. And we haven't seen this. Okay. I don't know where it came from. I mean, I
020know I know and I understand her her information. This would give him according to this, he could have worked with him for eight total years. Yes, sir. Based the one that the other gentleman wrote had no dates of any kind on it whatsoever. Yes, sir. But all I know is what Mr. Mars is related to Mr. Harrow and myself, plus the email that he's given us. So, Yes, sir. That's all I can tell you. Okay. He started with Coffee County Schools on in 2019, came in in February. So, I just saying that when I talked to uh that he wanted to be uh between in in the 60s. So, well, he is in the 60s. He's at 60. So if if you know I'm just saying to get him comparable to keep him here I
021guess is what I'm trying to to give the board is to make him make us competitive to other uh places that he could go forward. I understand that but all I'm saying is this is what he has told his immediate supervisor that he would be satisfied with. So that's all I can tell you. Tell you that. Would you would y'all mind if I stepped outside and called him? No, sir. Not really. Is this 60,977? Is that um after the 4%? Yes. Yes. Okay. And that puts him above the other mechanics in the shop. He'll be about I think we looked at about 4,500 more than Yes. Something like that. Next one. The next one down would be what? He's at 52. Is that correct? Well, with the raise, he'd be around I think around $4,500
022more than than the one below him. 54 5459. I think we I don't have the exact number, but I think we looked at it was around $4,500. Okay. Based on the 25 26 of 24 25 school year salary the highest person and this is not counting the 4% that that come in this year 52859 was the highest salary for the mechanics prior to this taking place and that was because of experience factor I think but 28 and that that's not counting the 4% that they would be getting this year. So that would put him at 54,974. Is that correct? Yes, we I haven't figured that. Mr. Heler, how does this I haven't had a chance to look, but how does this compare to districts around us? Do we know? I I haven't had a chance
023to look. I'm not sure. They have a desated head mechanic. Yes. Yeah. Most a lot of our around here have gone to Durham. Oh. For buses. They pay. really hard to compare bus pay to anybody else because I've tried it. Everybody's doing something different. Warren County's gone to Durham. U they they they got away from it for this for this very reason. They couldn't find, you know, I don't think that Coffee County Schools wants to go into the private bus, but that's not my decision to make. That's that's what his supervisor has informed us. Budget. Yes, ma'am. If it if it were me and I wasn't satisfied with it, I'd speak up and say something. That's what I'm saying. And I'm not Dr. Paul, I'm not trying to I'm just telling you I just talked
024to him a couple of days ago and he was looking at about he was thinking right at 65 is what he told me. Well, this conversation I had with Mr. Morris was probably last Thursday or Friday afternoon. Yes, sir. After I talked with him, I think either you or Miss Holly had given some information to to Melissa and she brought it in to me. I called Tim up here to see if he knew anything about it. He had no idea what that was all about. He had not heard anything from him. He went back that afternoon and talked with him. They talked again. Tim came back up the next day, told me what he was going to be, what he felt like he would be comfortable with. Uh he's written us, he sent us an
025email and I don't whether you got a copy of there or not, but we have it on file where Mr. Harllo indicated that that the money that that Mr. Hard Grove is recommended. The 20 years experience, 21 years experience, le of 4% plus a $500 per month would be satisfactory with him. Now, I don't know what kind of conversation y'all had. If he's got those conversations, he needs to be bringing it to the director of schools. We've acted on just the information we've been provided. Yes, sir. I've got it from Mr. Harllo and his supervisor. Is that I'm not doubting what you're saying. I'm just saying I've got him. He he never I've got him right here if you'd like to look at the text. He never made comment on that either. Is that part
026Is that 60,000 plus overtime? No, sir. That's just that's his base salary. And I don't know how much overtime he would be getting in a year's time. It varies on how how much time they ride the butt they if they have to drive a bus, right? And then come back to the garage and work on the bus. It varies on the bus driver situation. Varies where they has to drive or where they don't have to drive. And I don't think he drives unless it's absolutely necessary from what Mr. Morris tells tells me. Okay. Um, I'll just say that y'all might want to talk to this man. And let's uh I'll make a motion that we uh put this off till tomorrow or something and Mr. Hargrove can talk to Gary or Mr. Harlo and uh
027get this straight because I'm getting I'm talking to the man right here. He's never said that. I'm sorry, but I'm I'm right here's a text. I'll let you read it. To my knowledge, he's made no attempt to talk to Mr. Harrove. Now, he did indicate he he called me Yes, sir. a couple of probably latter part of la first part of last week. Uh I was out. We did not get a chance to come together to talk, but I have not had any conversation with him per se. All my conversations went through Mr. Morris, his supervisor. Yes, sir. Understand. I I did. He he reached out to me and uh well he needs to be reaching out to Mr. Hargrove or 101. This this email I pulled it back up that Mr. Morris sent on
028May the 1st. Here it is. Uh yeah. Yeah. It it says I don't know if you have We've got that. Okay. Um he has approximately 23 years of experience and I think that was based on what Mr. Harlo had told him based on what he thought he had worked for certain individuals for that period of time which he couldn't verify. So we're giving him how many years? We're giving him 21. 21 now. Okay. From from 16. He'll roll to 17 and then we'll give him an additional four years. Yeah. Okay. So what would it have been? How much is the difference between the 21 years experience and the 23 years experience? I'm just curious to see what how much difference that would be. Give me a minute to my number. Okay, it's fine. Miss Matthews,
029if you'll remember, he's only been with us in our system. Did you say 2018? She said 19. 2019. So, he he is receiving many years experience that he was able to prove uh through his documentation in previous times. So he he's he's actually getting a whole lot of experience. So it's it's down to it sounds like four to six years that he's struggling on providing the documentation. Maybe not even that. They're giving him 21, but they've asked for 23. But it sounds like Mr. Gilly wrote the letter. Oh. And it was approved by Dr. pal I believe uh for the four years but the two other years is and this is all I'm I'm understanding what I'm hear hearing on it the two years still has not been enough information documentation to show and proof
030that he worked those years okay that that's so it's really down to two years so two more years would be around $1,400 18 $148 a year I mean total so that would put put them at 62 396 for two more years. Okay. And how many years experience would that be, Miss April? That they were saying 23, which means I don't know if that means 23 or 24 because we're rolling him a year. So, we would have to look at that and see. I mean, I think if we had I think he would be good with with 21 rolling it to 22. That would put him at uh 43 47 a month. 56 uh 513 a year with the $6,000 annual raise that he's talking about that Mr. Morris is talking about in his letter plus
031the 4% would put him at 65. That's just going by what Mr. Morris has has in his letter and he's and he's fine with that if I just Here it is. Are you talking to Mr. Mars or Mr. Harlo? Mr. Harlo. Evidently, he hasn't related this information to Mr. Morris. It is Mr. Morris's budget. Mr. Morris is he's at a a transportation meeting. I think Miss Beth out of town. He's not here. I I would I would love to sit down with Mr. Morris, have a conversation, and Mr. Harlo. I think that would be a good idea. No, that that's a great idea. And Yes, sir. We need to do it. We need to be careful though. Uh we need to watch how we conduct our business now because Yes sir. Feels a little bit
032like a free agency in baseball. We're opening Pandora's box. We want to be fair to our employees. Yes sir. We want to treat our employees right. Take care good care of them. But I think we are we need to watch the precedent that we set. Yes sir. And what we have done in the past, I know this board can definitely change it, but I want to throw just a a small piece. We normally base pay not on the person but on the position. Now, if that's something that the board is wanting to change, that opens up a new new error in things. But normally what the board has or what has been done in Coff County schools in the past and normally I want to say most school systems base it off of the position
033because the person might not be there next year and whoever comes in it's going to be based on the position rather than the person. That is what has happened in the past. That's a very good point Mr. Showers. It's and that's what I'm trying to say. If he was to leave here, no matter how much experience he has and goes two miles down the road, he can make 3750 an hour, right? It doesn't matter whether he's been there 25 years or not. And to pay for he is a a a essential part of our school system. Would you agree to that, Dr. Schers? It's Mr. Shores, by the way. But u he could make it down there. I don't know. I'm just saying normally as a school system we do it through experience and step
034raises through each year and that's how school systems have far as I know always pretty much have done it. It's never looking at the actual individual. So yes, he he could go somewhere else. Mr. Mr. Harlo is a great man, great mechanic, but he could leave tomorrow and whoever we hire in would take that same whatever you you provide through the compensation committee to the board and it's approved. They would get the same even if he does that person doesn't have the knowledge that Mr. Harlo has. They would receive the exact same setup that Mr. Harlo would be receiving. When would this I'm sorry, I didn't mean to. Were you? Okay. When will this new pay go into effect? Because we've already like we're closing the year. We we talked about July 1 would be
035when we would start his new because we'll roll we'll roll the years. We'll add the experience and and that is but to to do that we would have to vote on that in the June meeting next week. Correct. June or July because we won't our first payroll till August. Okay. For the school year. So we could potentially vote on it in July if if you wanted to talk would give us we need a little more time. Yes, ma'am. That would give us an amount of time to Okay. Miss April, you could do it even in August and and back pay if you if it was retroactive type setup. Okay. And if we had to look at, you know, maybe taking it out of our fund balance, we've got obviously quite a bit of money in
036our fund balance. So just chime in here. Sorry, the only thing we would be voting on would be the $500 a month supplement, right? So not not his years of experience. So, he'd have to try to document another another two years somehow. Um, you know, wherever he can get that, but we would be as a board, we'd be voting on the $500 supplement for that pos that would go with that position. So, that's kind of how I understand it. And my understanding was that that Mr. Morris said he can he he talked with you and can work it out in the budget that it really isn't going to add any extra cost to him. Is that correct? Well, it'll still be a budget amendment, so I'll have to find it somewhere within our budget. And
037so, like early in the year, that's incredibly hard to do because, you know, they're starting the year. So, um I could take it from like his diesel line or whatever, but it typically is still a budget amendment because it's salary. So, anything salary that changes has to be through a budget amendment. Well, I thought he had said I thought Mr. Morris had said he'd had it worked out. It's not currently in the in the budget. that I presented to you guys. Okay. That because I only budget what I know, you know, for the school year and then overtime. Now, his overtime could cover it, but I don't budget that much overtime. I thought he said in his email that he could make some line items moves that wouldn't require a budget amendment. We could, but
038we would have to make a budget amendment to do it. Okay. And then potentially another budget amendment later in the year to cover the line that I took it from. So, I I don't want to speak for Mr. Morris, um Mr. ballot or the committee either one. But I think Mr. Mars's uh intention or insinuation was that if if Mr. Harlo received the $500 a month, $6,000 increase that that over the time the system would save money because of his expertise and because of the contacts he has with vendors and mechanics and so forth and shops and what have you, parts and what have you, that that money could be saved. somewhere else in the transportation budget. Not necessarily this you couldn't say we're gonna pull this out, but I think that's what an insinuation
039was that that Mr. Harllo could save the system and the overall budget. Um that amount of money is what he I think what he was insinuating is my understanding. Yeah. But the salary per se was not in the budget as such. So that where the amendment would have to come from in the salary line, not necessarily the transportation budget per se. So then we'd have to do we'd have to vote on on the to do the $500 supplement plus a budget amendment then to make it happen. I would probably bring that in probably the same meeting that you guys vote on. Got it. Yeah. Well, as long as it's next school year because I wouldn't do the budget amendment for this school year for next school year yet. So, if you voted on it in
040June, I would bring it to you in July. Okay. I was just making it clear to the committee what what actions we'd have to take as the board to clean that up. Well, I guess I'll make a motion to for us to move on from this and uh bring it up and let Dr. Mr. Harrove uh take it and talk to Mr. Harllo and Mr. Morris and and bring it up at a later time. Thank you. Okay. Anything else on transportation? All right. Another thing that I want you to take a look at, Mr. partially had sentenced and he he just came into the room some information uh dealing with with coaching supplements and not only necessarily coaching supplements but also we get a second on that we don't vote you don't vote in well
041I think there needs to be a motion I mean there needs to be a motion come out of the committee yes so I thought you you made the motion miss okay second miss Matthews second the motion All right. The motion is to postpone this and let Mr. Harrove, Mr. Mars, and Mr. Harllo get together or Holland get together and see where we are with this situation. Everybody clear on the motion? All those in favor of the motion say I. Opposable by lock sign. Motion carries. Thank you. Okay. Um the coaching supplements, we're not going to get into discussion about all the coaching supplements and so forth. Um Mr. Parsley has asked that we take a look at uh some of the coaching supplements, not necessarily all of them, but uh I think u Miss April
042has a handout for you that shows all of our this year, not next year. Now, this is not next year's information. And this is what happened this school year about our uh the coaching supplements uh who they were, what they got uh at the middle school and also at the high school. So this is just for information purposes right now uh so you can get an idea of what how the coaching supplements are set up and and that type thing. Um, let's look at the high school first. That should be the sheet that doesn't have the blue lines on it. Um, I'll try to explain it fairly quickly to you. Um, the athletic directors, you've got two. There's a total of 16% supplement. They split that with a eight and eight supplement as is right
043now. the uh baseball supplement the uh that is set up where the head coach gets to 16% at this point in time and depending on how many coaches they want. You got one short depending on how many coaches they want and it may this this particular year you had four assistant coaches. One of them was field maintenance. We don't know at this point in time whether whe the baseball coach has all the coaches for next year or not. But whatever is left over, that money is divided among the coaches and Mr. Parsley, the athletic directors and the coach get together and decide what the supplements they'll give to the assistant coaches. Is that correct, Mr. Parsley? That's cor that's generally correct. this percent like it says at the bottom 16% on the high school director
044total high school athletic director supplements. Now where does the percent come from? It's a percent of something. Right. Okay. I'll let Miss April answer that. So these percentages were set back years ago by the board. Um so they specific percentage is given to each sport and then those percentages are taken to the pay scale. So like it depends on what the person's on. So like if they're on masters and 22, they get 16% of that okay line and that's what their supplement is. If it's a non-ballet coach they get paid off the bachelor's zero line. So that it would be a percentage of that one. So that's kind of how we So the percentages in total never change, but the people may. And so the dollars will fluctuate based on who's in that position and
045what years of experience they have. That makes sense. U and you can go down the list and see where they are there. You've got uh your baseball, we looked at that. U boys basketball. Um they have a head coach and this past year uh Mr. Andrew had three assistant coaches. He may have three this next year. He might not have but two. We don't know. That hasn't been determined yet. I don't think they haven't got all that taken care of. Same thing with all the rest of them. Uh so this is just going to give you an idea of how the money is spread out with the coaching staff and it depends on how many assistant coaches that particular sport or that head coach wants in their program. So basically that's that's kind of the
046basis for it. So these numbers are what was what took place this past school year and doesn't include any percent raises or any anything whatsoever. Um I guess the largest one out of this of course is a football which is on the second page and you'll see that there are several assistant coaches in there. Again, at this point in time, we don't know how many assistant coaches will be on the football staff. So, that's to be determined at some point in time with with Mr. Parson ads and the head coach and so forth. Uh, you'll see also in there there's a stipen for a maintenance a field maintenance person. That person basically is in charge of of striping the fields, making sure they're ready to play on uh that type thing. And I think he
047also mows the field themselves. Is that correct? Yes, sir. Yes, that is correct. Yes. Um, so that that's a a stopping for that particular individual in there. And you'll see uh uh Mr. Ham's name in there on a couple of different sports uh football, baseball, softball, I think, because of field maintenance and that type thing. And um then of course you got girls basketball the same way. Uh Coach Cope had three assistants this past year that were being paid. Uh that may be what he has this next year. We don't know. Uh we'll have to look and see. Now also we'll say this, sometimes the booster club will pay a volunteer coach, a non-faculty coach. They'll pay it out of booster funds. So that wouldn't necessarily be in here. That money is paid to the
048school system and we pay them. The booster club cannot pay them per se as I understand it. Correct, Mr. Parsley? That is correct. So, uh, you know, the the booster organizations can, uh, provide, um, money for an assistant coach. However, that must run through the school system. Yes. And so, in particular, the way that it works at Coffee County High School, uh, a booster member would bring that money in to the school to to Miss Amy Barard, our bookkeeper, and then it would run to the district office. the person would be paid out uh through a check or checks from the school district. Yes. Uh yes, I have a question on that. It looks like this has been updated because back at the beginning of the year uh under girls basketball, Crossland was not listed
049and so now it's been added. Okay. And you're talking about run back again. Okay. Under girls basketball at the beginning of the year, Crossland was not listed, but it is now. So, it looks like this has been updated since then and there's a 5% U pay. But was that booster club money or is this so they switched who they wanted? So, originally it was Nia Ganon that was in that spot. Oh, and they she from what I understand she chose she was going to choose not to coach. They filled that spot with Miss Crosslin and then Miss Ganon came back and wanted to help again and so Booster chose to pay her. So, we switched those two spots. So, Ganon gets the booster club money. Ganon will get the booster club money this and she
050and she has resigned as of this year. She has now resigned. Yeah, Miss Ganon will not be coaching next year. Yes, that is correct. Now, whether Mr. Cope is going to get another assistant coach, we don't know that. That's something that they'll have to decide upon. But far as I know right now, the three coaches that you see there, like I said, this was last year's, Mr. Vincent, Mr. Mr. Chumaly and Miss Crossen are the assistant coaches at this point in time of being paid. And again, that could change. Th this is the current staff and particularly during the summertime. Um these kind of changes tend to take place. Sometimes they happen in the spring for fall sports. Um coaches for fall and winter sports uh are are talking in the off season with people
051that might be interested in helping them. And um so so that's that's kind of what's going on here. But I I mean just to be quite honest, these changes occur throughout the year because you've got sports going throughout the year. Um you know, for a spring sport, it's it's common to have a change during the fall or even during the winter. And for fall sports, uh even during this time of year, anywhere you see a percentage, that is paid out by the school district. So there's no one on here that's paid out by booster. Okay. So this is just school district fund. So will girls basketball will I mean do we know if they're going to add another person to pay under booster or if they do add somebody will it be on here? We'll
052get it a we'll get a list usually fall um ads provide that list to us usually after summer. Um so we can start working these into payroll. Um, it just will be determined on what's on that list and what's what's determined by the head basketball coach and and and if I could say, you know, anyone that we're interested in hiring, anyone that a head coach talks with us about that they would like to serve, for instance, as a non-faculty volunteer or something like that. Um, I mean, they're going to be interviewed, they're going to be vetted, um, background checked and whatnot. Okay. Have all the football coaches been background checked? Uh yeah. Yeah. I can attest that anyone on this list has been background checked. Okay. That they would they wouldn't be receiving pay from
053the district or uh or even being paid by boosters if they had not been background checked. Okay. Okay. Keep in mind though, Miss Holly, that this is this past season's coaches. Oh, I know. I don't know what this next year is going to look like since we've got a new head coach. He may have this many, he may not want this many. I don't know. But and he he probably, if I understood it correctly, they kind of get to decide themselves, the head coach, right? How they divide it out and how many they want on staff or to a degree. So, it is to a degree. So, um you know, different coaches have different mentalities as far as uh the role that they have themselves. because of course they're the leader of the team. But,
054you know, some head coaches in football want will also want to be a coordinator of offense or defense. Some don't want to do that. That uh that changes some things. You know, if the head coach is going to be a coordinator, then there's not going to be at least one of those coordinator positions to pay a larger supplement to. That gives that leaves more money left over to go maybe to some other coaches and allows you to maybe hire another coach or two. Mhm. Um so, uh just to further clarify what Dr. Powell said, um you know, once it sort of settles as far as to how many people a coach is going to have working in a program, the coach works with the ads and you know, I'm I'm typically a part of that
055conversation as well, but they'll talk with us about the percentage that they would like to give each coach based upon the duties that they want to assign them. um you know obviously more responsibilities equals u more pay is generally how that works. You'll also notice on the on the back page even though they're not ball coaches as such. You also have uh band supplements for a band. You have cheerleader supplements. You have color guard supplements. You have dance supplements. uh and cross country of course which is a a sport as such and tennis and what have you. But um we're not only looking at just the athletic coaches as we normally would call them, but now they consider girls cheerleading and uh dance and so forth as part of the athletic program. So when you
056look at this, don't just think about it being something that involves a ball, I guess, so to speak. Uh yeah, I mean I agree with that. I'm a cheer mom because I'm not uh don't forget our but you know look through that and and and see I know that there's some uh for instance cheerleading uh which I know Miss Holly is very much aware of. Um this past year I think there were four cheerleading coaches as I understand it. That is correct. One of those has since resigned. Uh whether there's going to be another one to come on board, we don't know that at this point in time, but u that's something that Mr. Parley will have to look at and and come back and recommend to the board that they pay three or pay
057four or pay two, whatever the case may be, and and what have you. So, like I said, these were these were what we had this year, and it doesn't it's probably I'd say 70 75% pretty much what you'd have next year, but that's to be seen, I guess. And the same thing with them. You got the same thing with middle school. Um same situations with them. They don't have as many of course to deal with as far as number of coaches are concerned, but they have the same programs for the most part and uh and what have you. But I just what I'm what we're trying to do today is just make you aware that this is something that the board needs to to begin to look at a little bit and see uh where
058some of these need to be if they're more than what you think they ought to be or they need to pick up more. Mr. Par have recommendations to the board at some point in time or Mr. Hargrove. Um and that will come before you. But I just wanted to put on your radar that there because we're changing personnel and so forth, there may be a difference in what you'd be giving your coaching supplements. I guess basically I mean you may not have what was it 10 or 12 coaches in football. I don't remember. I didn't count how many was on there. A whole lot. I think last. Uh of course you have to consider too whether you have a varsity team, you have a JV team, you have a ninth grade team. Those things are
059all to be considered uh as part of the high school program. Uh same thing with the with the with all the sports even cheerleading and and band so forth and so on. Middle school is not uh I don't think they have that much of a breakdown in their athletic programs as far as uh I don't think they have a JV football team. I'm not sure, but I don't believe they do. It's just they play as the varsity. Is that right, Mr. Shores? I couldn't hear what you just said. The middle school have a JV football team and a JV basketball or they just kind of I believe so. Yes. Okay. They may have that. But anyway, that's that's how some of those supplements are broken down like Mr. Parter said depending on the responsibility that
060that particular coach may have in their in their program. So are I guess I'm just asking like why we're looking at it. Are there any changes or Well, I think there's going to be changes. Yes, because Mr. partially asked the board to consider some changes for next year. Okay. Under which program? Uh well, probably if you want to go ahead, Mr. Parley, whatever you I I don't I don't mind at all. Um you know, we could we could discuss each one of these programs at length and and variables such as is there a JV team, is there a freshman team, how many kids are in the program. Uh there are all sorts of different directions that a conversation about this could go. But one thing, let me say it this way. I guess the first
061thing that I would appreciate could be addressed would be that there are in my mind there are about three programs here um that are not the high file high-profile programs. Uh whereas the head coach receives a supplement that I just feel is is not enough. Just just flat not enough. Um and I'll give those examples. Um our dance coach, our head dance coach receives a six and a quarter% supplement. That program runs virtually all year. I mean it really does. And um you know we have a non-faculty assistant that works with her. does not receive any money from the school district. Uh the pay she gets is all uh fundraised by the boosters. Uh but I would just I would advocate that that our head dance coach and perhaps there even be an assistant dance
062supplement. Again, they're running virtually all year. I would support that 100%. She sent us an email. She's I talked to her at the basketball game, too. I hope you all not She did. I thought she did a really good job. She did. She it was very well written and I I I support that 110%. That that is she needs some help. That is an example of what I'm talking about. Um aside from those my recollection um our cross country coach as well as our tennis coach received six and a quarter% supplements. And um you know cross country is a fall sport, tennis is a spring sport. Um, you know, there's lots of responsibility running a program. Um, whether it be spring, fall, winter, whatever, you know, what have you, any of those. And, uh, some
063of these programs, in fact, uh, I believe all these programs, I'd have to double check the cross country. I think both I think tennis as well has an assistant that is a volunteer, a non-faculty volunteer. And uh there there's no pay from the district on that either. So I would you know again there are lots of different things we could suggest or I could suggest but I think a good place to start would be in potentially increasing the supplement for these head coaches in these three areas. um all of the other areas um you know we we could you know discuss whether it's enough or not but if tennis dance and cross country could be increased to at least equal the amount of the I guess the next highest sports 8% you see in some
064other sports you see that um and so I would suggest at least 8% um across the board on those sports because of the responsibility that goes along with with being in charge of those. That's not an increase of 8%. That's bringing it up to 8%. Right. Um and you know it obviously would be up to you all whether you wanted to to do a paid um assistant coach supplement or not. Um I mean in cases where we don't uh generally um the parents the boosters raise money to help to pay for someone to help. You got to keep in mind that money that they're raising for you know through fundraising and for booster it doesn't take but maybe one or two competitions to eat that up. That's right. I really don't know how they're they're
065able to even pay anybody with it a substantial amount. Right. So, and I hate to see kids fundraising and and parents. It falls on the parents really to do a lot of the fundraising and and the parents and the kids not get most of the benefit because we as a district are not paying an assistant coach. I don't feel like the the parents and the kids should have to carry that load to fund raise for an assistant coach. I feel like we should. We've got an assistant coach everywhere else or here. Well, to me, when we pay how many football coaches? Um, and then we can't even get our our girls with dance an assistant coach. Yes. Something's unbalanced in that to me. I mean, I've always had people say, "Well, football pays for itself."
066I'd love to know how if you could share that with me. How does football pay for itself? But I know that it needs to be more balanced in my opinion, right? Um I I would say um you know, and I have the list here. I see how many coaches we had on the football staff this past year. Um that's fairly normal. Um, you know, if you if you look at other schools our size, uh, you generally see that many coaches on the staffs. Could be a little less, could be a little more. Um, I have no idea how many school districts actually pay all those coaches versus districts that have, you know, boosters maybe paying four or five of those folks. I don't I just don't know without researching it. Um, one thing to bear
067in mind, I mean, I think of note is the number of kids that are involved in a program. Um, you know, foot football, and I know this is not about football, but football does does have a lot of kids involved. I I'm pretty sure we're over a hundred players at this time. Um, and you know, dur during the summer, there might be a few that decide that that they don't want to continue. That happens in any sport. Um, but you know, I think they're probably around 100 kids now for the number of coaches we have. And I think the number of coaches we have currently is very similar to what you see here. Um, just still putting the staff together with our new football coach only having been with us since the start of May.
068Mr. Chair, can I ask a question real quickly? Ju just curiosity. It may not make a bit of difference whatsoever. I'm just curious what surrounding counties pay the dance, the cross country, and the tennis coach. Just out of curiosity. So that are we right there in with them or are we way under or are we way over? We're over and and I I just And like I said, that may not make any difference. Well, I will say I I have I have it in front of me right now. Um, yeah, we're we're way over. Could I could I ask you something? I'm not saying that's a bad thing. When you're saying we're way over So, we're paying these three areas way over what most counties or systems and and like I said, we may want
069to go way way over that, but yeah, at a glance, I just curious. I I have two other districts right here in front of me. That's not very much to go by, but that's a little bit. And yeah. So, so we're doing pretty good in that sense. Our coaches are paid very well here. Okay. And you're referring to those head coaches for the three sports we were talking about. The three sports we were talking about. Yeah. Okay. In in every area because I've looked at this for a few weeks now. And I'll just tell you who I'm comparing and I can send you the data. It's um Franklin County and Bedford. And there's a lot more to look at besides those two. Okay. Um one thing that Bedford County does too is they pay a
070lump sum. They don't do it by percentage. Bedford and Franklin County. A lot of systems do that, Mr. H. Yeah. A lot of them besides us. Yeah. You know. Yeah. The good thing about a percentage is it it doesn't go down in value over the years. So three year or 10 years from now, 15% is still 15% with the raises that went up. But if you keep it at a flat amount, then in 15 years that say $2,000 that you were paying isn't worth what $2,000 was 15 years ago. Does that make sense? True. So that that's the reason why Coffee County tried to stay towards the percentage is to make the money stay still worth what it was made at the time it was it was set. And I would say that's probably why
071we are ahead of those districts because they probably pay and I don't know because I haven't seen but they probably pay a lump sum where we pay a percentage increasing [Music] and I'm happy to share that information you guys said I only did it for two but just didn't have time to keep digging. Also I think we need to consider for instance dance and or cheerleading. You know, dance is something that's fairly new to high schools, at least in this area. And I think that's a growing sport, and I don't know when the board how the board initially set that percentage. I have no earthly idea or when it when it was even set. That program is growing. Uh cheerleaders used to be what, Holly? When you were eight or 10 maybe at the most.
072Yeah. Now I think now I think there's 30 on the high school team. 2ish, maybe more. I'm not sure about the middle school, but those groups are growing. Uh, and and some of the what we call the minor sports, golf and tennis and so forth, weren't around several years ago. So, I don't know how those percentages were initially set up by whichever board set them up. I have no idea. You know, definitely growing. You know what has generally happened and I think we probably all realize it is virtually any sport has grown uh with respect to the amount of time demanded if you want to be competitive. Yes. Um you know if you want to to have a really quality dance team um you know you're you're you're practicing and you're involved for just about
073the entire year. We could say that of of any sport. Um, you know, in the off season there's travel ball and there's, you know, offseason workouts, uh, during the summer for for baseball and softball. Right now, it's going on several days a week and that's that's common in most any school you might go to. So, and whatever we do or commit to, we want to do well. Absolutely. And and I'm I'm kind of like Holly, you know, if we're going to have a a sports program in the system, we need to try to fund it through the school system, not through booster clubs. Uh I know a lot of schools have that, but I've heard a lot of bad tales about booster clubs paying coaches and paying them under the underhand, so to speak, and
074they've got caught at it. they've had to a lot of financial information involved it. We don't have to worry about that because even our uh non faculty coaches are paid through the school system. The booster club does not write those people a check. Uh and I think that's good. Yeah. So, we've got a good accountability standard there. I just look back and it looks like just a little bit of history. The dance team at the high school was added in 2010. 2010. That's the first time we we saw the stop in for that. And it probably had what, five or six dancers? 4.5 at that time. Okay. 4 4.5% when it first started. And how that was derived, I have no idea. It did. It did in um 2013. The board chose to vote to
075change that. Um it's been a long time. Maybe I'm overlooking it, but I thought we had a swim team. I don't see it on here. We do. I think I saw it in here. Is it on? And I'm just totally overlooking it. It's on the bottom of the very first page. There it is. It's It's broken apart for me, but I don't see Oh, yes. There it is. Okay. There. The swim coach is also the swim coach. And someone correct me if I'm wrong, unless it's changed. The swim coach is also the coach for the middle school program and there is a supplement for middle school as well. It's not noted here because middle school supplements are not on here. Yeah. You have a separate packet for middle school. Middle schools have your blue lines
076on them. That's a separate It's middle schools. And for the swim coach at the middle school is 5%. And it is the same person. And there's no dance team at the middle school gathering. We have a strength and conditioning supplement going to the middle school. Do we have that for the high school? Not not per se because I think in the past the one of the football coaches has done that for class because you can get credit for that I think as official education credit if I'm not mistaken. So that's not what Mr. Travis does after school with all the sports. He doesn't that's not his class. He's has a five six period class. Then he does that after school with all the athletes at the middle school. Sorry. I I believe Mr. Kelly actually
077does it for multiple sports. Yes. And it's worked in with the multiple different sports that I was going to add that's pulled in. Exactly how they do that with I was thinking it was part of actually the percentage that was given to each sport. put it towards that strength in strength and conditioning. But it the way it's here, it looks like it's a little different, but um but I do know it's multiple sports. Is that some like can any kid participate in strength and conditioning or Well, that's what I'm saying. It'd be like uh football during the time that they are in their preseason or whatever, they might be doing strength and conditioning. Then it might be soccer connecting up with Mr. O. Kelly or baseball connecting up with Mr. O. Kelly. So it's not
078a strength and conditioning. It's just itself. It's tied to the sport. Okay. The individual sport. And that's the reason why I thought that it was part of each individual sports percentage and they were given a portion of their percentage. But way it's written here, it doesn't look that way. But Miss Melson, it's Yeah, it's always been set up just separate as a separate supplement to support all the different sports at middle school. Okay, I can add on some. So, so you know, we do have a strength and conditioning uh coach or teacher, you might say, at the high school. Uh that would be coach uh Harmon, who's our new head football coach. And uh so he I believe he'll have my recollection is that he will have six periods. Don't hold me to that. I
079think he'll have six periods of strength and conditioning classes this year. And um what we try to do is put various groups of kids in their sports where we're able to uh you know, for instance um with coach Harmon. Um, we talked with him when he was hired about, you know, would would if you had your brothers, would you want to have all of the football team in the same class period of strength and conditioning or would you like for them to be divided up? Uh, would you like for them to have strength and conditioning in the morning so that they could uh perhaps, you know, rest up a little bit during the day while they're having classes and be ready to go for practice. Um, and I think that's probably what we're going to
080do this year. That's kind of his, uh, philosophy. But, uh, I believe we're going to have the football kids, if I'm not mistaken, in a couple of class periods in the morning. Um, Coach McQuarter with softball, he has all of his softball players in one particular period. Volleyball kids are all in one particular period. Now, every now and then, um, there'll be a student who wants to take a class that is offered only one time a day, and it could be an early post-secondary opportunity of some sort, usually is and uh, if it's happens to be offered during that same class period where the sport has their conditioning, a choice has to be made. And, uh, just to be quite honest, I mean, I I would encourage the kid to take the early postsecary opportunity.
081Uh, that might put them a little bit behind. They but they can still do the strength and conditioning. Yes. Yes. Personally like at the high school and I can speak for baseball for just a second. They actually use one of their coaches in their supplement for their strength and conditioning which is coach Moss which is their strength and conditioning which is after school hours. Yes. So I'm assuming the other might be doing the same type of thing. So what's happening with baseball in particular? Um, so our our head baseball coach, um, he wanted someone in particular to work with his kids with respect to strength and conditioning. And so he said, I want to take, um, X percentage, and I don't I'd have to look and see what it is here. I want to take
082X percentage and pay this gentleman to do the strength and conditioning with my kids during the class, which our head coach is there for as well. And so that's exactly what we do. part of the assistant coaching supplement pool is paid out in that case for strength and conditioning which coach Brute believes is well worth it and I can't argue otherwise. You have to keep in mind too that each individual sport may have a different type of strength and conditioning they need to go through. Uh what what would be good for a football player may not necessarily be what needs to be done for a softball player or a tennis player. Is that right? um a a a question that I think you asked a few minutes ago, you'd ask if I think if if
083students who are maybe not part of a sport could still and the answer is yes. Okay. We have uh lots of students that take strength and conditioning. Uh basically it's it's part of our health and PE program and so students can choose that uh as an alternate to a traditional PE class. Is that an option at the middle school? That's what I was going to say. I don't I think you were asking about the middle school. the middle school. In the middle school, they actually tie it to that it's a little different. It's not actually done during school hours. It's it's after school hours. So, it's a different setup than what the high school is, you know? I mean, I I guess like I this is kind of divided out by program, athletic program, and
084this kind of makes strength and conditioning look like its own program. And what if you just had a kid that said, "I just want to get in shape. I just wanna based on be strong and conditioned, you know, based on what Dr. Anderson based on what Dr. Anderson tells me about the strength and conditioning. It's an afterchool program. Is that only available to sports team?" And I think it's only available to the sports teams if if it's a football during football practice, if it's basketball or they may let them interchange. I'm not sure. They go out to the big fieldhouse out behind the field if you're aware of that. Of course, Miss Holly. Yeah. And and I'm based on what Mr. Anderson tells me, that is not part of the five or six period school
085day. That's an after school program. I'm sure it is. Yes. I'm just saying, you know, if you had a kid that said, "I don't play a sport, but I, you know, that might not be a bad idea to make that available." I I don't know. If it's done after school, you'd have to really want to. That's why Mr. That's that's why Travis gets a supplement because it's an afterchool program per se at at this point in time. Yeah. On top of this. And I'm I'm speculating a little bit here, but I would imagine that those workouts are uh specialized, I would say. So, you know, for those sports and and you know, it may change uh throughout the year for that particular sport based on whether it's in season or out. Yes. Miss Milson, is
086there a chance that that's how Mr. Harris or the AD at the middle school set it up so that they took their percentages and and actually created that for those sports so it's done that way and that's a question I don't know I don't the strength and condition specifically or like um I guess that I mean that would have been a like a board voted like percentage way back when um but I would say that he would have a lot to do with he would work with those people and have a lot to do with what those percentages look like similar to the situation Mr. Parsley is on is on with his coaches his ads and coaches. I think they're said is that what you're asking me? Did I answer it? Maybe maybe not. I
087was thinking they might have gotten an X number percentage and then actually the AD. No. So that percentage because everybody was using the that strength and conditioning at the middle school per sport. No, that that um percentage is set specifically for strength and conditioning. Like that percentage has always been 13% for that particular thing. So it doesn't fluctuate. It's always been 13. Okay. Any other questions? Miss B. um on this um dance supplement, we're talking about the possibility to raise that to 8%. But within that 8%, it doesn't give any thing for an assistant. So, we would have to do it more than 8% in order to cover an assistant, right? Well, that would be up to you all to decide whether you want to do that. Um if if the question is, would I
088recommend that? The answer is yes. Okay. Um, I I just I just know what I have seen in recent years with our dance team throughout the year with respect to the amount of effort and time that they put into the program. And uh I I believe they're they're earning that money and and then a whole lot more. Of course, we we know that um you know, you you could say that you know none of these supplements, no one is getting wealthy off the supplements for their coaching. And when you consider the amount of hours that are put into any sport uh with respect to the amount you get paid, it it doesn't just doesn't generally add up. But uh I I would recommend there be an assistant supplement uh for every sport we have. Uh
089well, I notice we have four that including the color guard that are at below the 8% which is the least that we pay any other head coach. One thing that I want to say about color guard um and again our instructor for color guard is earning her money very well too. Uh but color guard is part of the band and so I I would and I know it the way it's laid out here but uh you know we have a a head band instructor supplement there's an assistant supplement and I know color guard has a different name um but it it it really it's sort of like another band assistant sort of is. Okay. Also, I just want to point out that on these sport or these programs that do not have an assistant, if
090that head coach is sick or has to be out or, you know, like who steps in or need they need to be out of town and some of them may have assistance, but they're funded by a booster. I don't know. Some of them may not. I mean, middle school golf, there's no assistant. Um there's, you know, anywhere on here where you just see one name, you have to wonder if something happens and this coach cannot be at a game or at a match or competition, whatever. They really probably, in my opinion, I'm one of nine. I would love to see everybody have an assistant if for nothing else to be able to step in when that head coach can't be there. to support your remark. Um several years ago now, probably five or six years
091ago, um our dance coach, uh who who did not have an assistant, um she had a personal issue come up that just absolutely could not be helped. And we had a football game, a home game. Yeah. And uh so our our chair coaches um just I just kind of basically they helped her and took care of it that night. um not their responsibility, but obviously willing to help and glad to help. That's how we handled that. Well, I'm glad they were willing, but it would be great if we didn't have to rely, right? Yes. It wasn't an easy night for I know it wasn't. Our swim coach, too. So, really, we've got several that are in that position. Does the swim coach you feel like need an assistant? Um, I hesitate a little bit and
092I I I would definitely not just say no. I don't know without doing a little research. I just don't recollect whether our swim coach maybe has a volunteer assistant that is getting paid through booster funds or something like that. Okay. I'm not certain that she does, but she she might. Okay. Let me throw this out one more. I think we pretty much talked about you you've got an idea of what we need to be looking at or what y'all need to be looking at in the future and you can you can see from this that it that could lead into quite a bit of discussion of course but this is just something to look at. Um let me go back to the dance coach for instance right now excuse me the uh uh head coach
093is getting uh 6.25%. All right. The assistant coach. Um I'm sorry. That's cross country. I'm on the wrong I'm on the wrong page. Dance coach. Okay. We don't have an We don't have an an assistant coach in the dance program right now. We Well, we do have an assistant, but she's not paid through the booster. She does not get paid. Okay. I think I asked I think I asked April to figure out if if we were to give that assistant dance coach uh 2.75% uh that would be giving that particular individual $1350 and I don't know what they get paid now. I'm not sure. I have no idea. I would have to look you know right off hand. It would be I think we figured it non-faculty and zero I think is what we figured
094it how much a non-faculty coach at zero I think that was 1300 and Okay. Yeah, but that's like the lowest we would, you know, that would be the lowest we would pay, right? If we hired someone within that had experience, we would give them obviously their experience. Okay. So, that could fluctuate. Sure. Sure. So, all non-faculty coaches, this is a question I had before I came in here. How do you figure a percentage for a non-faculty coach? They're all at zero with a bachelor. So, they're in that top left corner. That's right. Yes. No matter how long they've been coaching, they get a year in. Oh, okay. Okay. So, they can build. Okay. We don't move them along. They stay at zero. Okay. I did that. And they just get the increase we give to
095the pay scale each year. So, like we give a 4%, they get a 4%. So, they never jump out of that top left. Not unless they start working with us and then we give them they stay at 0% through after and if if the 0% or the Yeah. zero level goes up 4% and there they would go up 4% based on their supplement is but their years of service of coaching doesn't no it's whatever percent the system gives is what they'd be getting in their supplement okay any other questions right now I I think you know where we where we need to to start doing some searching uh I will say this um there are some other organizations at the high school that are looking for some concern about stipens or supplements or whatever you
096might want to call them that have extracurricular programs. Uh so I'm sure that's going to be coming up. Mr. Parsley is well aware. He's kind of grinning. He's well aware of what I'm talking about. So it's not necessarily just athletic supplements per se that we're that that we need to be looking at. It could be some other programs that have after school programs and and other responsibilities that are not during the school day that that could be looking at some some possibilities. Uh some systems, the ones I familiar with or talked with early on about it when I got a question about it, they may pay just a flat rate for a certain position, uh whatever that might be. So that that's something else that that probably going to come out of this conversation at
097some point in time. I think that would be great. I know they anyone else have anything to say? Anyone think we've had a good meeting? Very productive. Uh open a lot of eyes. Uh Mr. Hargrove and Mr. Morris and Mr. Holland will get together and uh come to some kind of a consensus on what Mr. Harlo will recommend to the board or that and it'll be on the next board meeting I think if I'm not mistaken. So will this be on the June meeting next week? Be on the June meeting. Yes, ma'am. Okay. So you guys will have to meet before the for next week. Correct. Or get on it. Don't got much time now. Which which shouldn't be a problem, I don't think. You know. Okay. I don't know. Will Mr. Morris be back?
098I think he's supposed to be back tomorrow or Friday. Okay. He's been at a state transportation meeting all all week. If we if it can't happen, we also have June. We'll have July. July, August. I mean, we can back pay him. So, if it can't get settled, we can make it. We're not dead in the water if we don't. Okay. Anything else that would like to bring up? All right. Thank you very much. And um make a motion to adjurnn. I make a motion, Miss Beth. second it and Mr.