001me to order if you would stand for a moment of silence and place [Music] plan salute pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for [Music] all good afternoon everybody good to see you here we've got members here so we've got a quorum which is what we need uh first item of business is to approve the minutes the last meeting back on 3:25 I move to approve second motion to approve and second any discussion those in favor say I I those opposed say nay guys have it we have a letter from the attorney that we need to discuss in executive session so before we get started on anything let's do that [Music] short this way
002go B's office it's closer [Music] it's a letter that it has to do with the budget that's to do e e e [Music] they're going to be get Federal stuff returning States more we our state here boy in County another I don't just I know you got [Music] this I stole Jason's chair yeah his is sheding for some reason okay okay as we move forward I think we should probably look at a couple things first the sour discussions Mr Steph you want to take off one M well looking at the raises so um just wanted to see now that y'all have looked over if you have any questions or want to have a disc discussion on them I'm uh cuz this would help the budget process for to be approved sooner than later okay but
003what we did is calculated them like we discussed in that work session so a 17 15 13 for each certified person and 2% for the classified and then two 2% for supervisor and admin we have that [Applause] cheat one yeah we can start with one mhm which one you first the budget one first and we're starting off with the classified hourly it's the same one no it's has the hourly like the zero year is $158 oh no color on that page black and white page that three hang on did I do that I put three in Fr Stan Mower and then teacher assistants and then well I think I lost it it's doesn't have any color on it looks like this has zero maybe I moved it back to three hold on I thought you
004that's what I did each category is like the first one is codian Mower and the next one is teacher assistant maybe under three instead of one it's under three for me oh is it under three okay I'm sorry conf to number one I think originally it was attached to number [Music] one okay so Mr step I wasn't here for the um first budget meeting but in watching it you had reiterated that we were down to the 1.3% for meeting the state requirements for the raise for the teachers right down to 1.3 yeah well we had done incremental so there's 1.3% left in order to get us to that mark13 left okay for next okay how that percentage is at okay all right so we're looking at that plus the step raise and step rais is
005for teachers and everyone gets a step raise according to their years experience [Applause] that's step one yes one p I didn't get any emails with questions so I didn't know if there were questions that y'all want to talk about here any questions about classified in the 2% how's that going to bring us in relation to the surrounding counties because I know we were a little bit off with that even considering our compensation packages they're between 14 and 16 start out depending on the county okay so if we come up the two% where does that put us on our hourly in relation to the zeroe person would be $11.58 okay so with the classified Personnel just a reminder and I think everybody knows this already but I'll say it out loud to move the hourly classified
006staff one doll it's about a half million across the board is that right Kim right it's like 550 something like that how much is it percentage pointwise each percentage point do you know um I don't know totally classified I can get that for you yeah Miss Bray if you could send me this unlock can you do that the sheet that we're looking at is locked for edit okay if you could do that I could calculate some of that myself and not have to ask those questions but I was just wondering if you went 3% instead of 2% all the way up to six what would that look like as a total amount across the county did you you had a sheet where you had the 2 3 4 5% I think the two I shouldn't
007it's been long since I looked at that I'm thinking 175,000 yeah you had it broken down by each percentage rate we'll get that to you so you don't have to calculate okay y is six the highest you want to go I think so that's we'll definitely get that to you so this represents 2% this represent present 2% what was last year's starting zero uh $136 $1. 36 is that right 22 C mhm and there's 2% between each step on this scale exactly the scale is balanced so has that changed what it was okay well at one time it was 3 after had the Sal St you back to 2018 think so yeah okay and then certified is required by law so it's 17,700 I think the page we have we'll do a correction there say
00817 13 yeah no worries so that's not necessarily required by law this year but by the by the end of the year next year we have to be at the 50 so you're splitting it in half basically half and half yeah the first year the board did a big jump 8% that was pretty big again last year too 3,000 last year and then this splits the difference of what's left kind of like I refer to it we sort of front loed it did it heavy on the front end and now we're finishing up on the back end of the years that we were given which was to the benefit of the teachers mhm we Compound on that every [Music] year so 2% is where you felt you all felt that was a good sweet spot
009for us to come in on plus the step raises in accordance to where we were with the budget also taking into consideration what we did last year with things yeah of course y'all could tell us to do more on the classified if you like we'll get those numbers to you percentages I'm looking for what you and your Administration recommend you know as a base point for us we were looking at what we got for Tisa um and the pay raises across the board and 2% seem to be the the easier not easier the better place for us to land when you look at the budget and the increase in the insurance package mhm that was a big one that we've split up between the years that's about a $10,000 benefit just for a single person
010MH yeah and I know we have to take that total compensation package into consideration when we're talking the hourly pay and comparing that to surrounding districts because surrounding districts from my understanding their compensation packages aren't 100% like ours is Right some are 8020 some are 7030 just depends on so that's a that we have and we allow you to pick your plan we don't them tell them which plan they have to participate in there's a full bread of plans you can pick which is very unusual these days very unusual these days so if they choose the high deductible plan does that um affect their salary no I mean procedurally the board could decide to do that I mean it's up to you what if you pick the standard and not the top plan what you're
011saving the county does that affect your salary or not cuz typically if you're paying a portion of it then when you pick your plan it's priced according to what you pick the better the coverage or the lower the deductible the more you're paying so then your safe saving the money along with the company saving the money but in this situation we're paying 100% there is no savings to the employee if they go with a lower coverage is that an option to look at is that something that we've looked at in the past yeah we can look at it I can get you numbers um I mean is it worth looking at well since we're we're spending well over $10 million a year a little over a million dollar a month for the benefits package so
012I mean yeah it' be worth looking at board wants to go that direction we can get you numbers for they what they would say if they pick standard and not the top plan yall want me to get numbers on percentages too like 90 10 80 20 so what I was wondering is will that raise their salary if we do that no so so is it really worth it is it really worth it if we've got people that don't need insurance don't take it that helps us right I understand that they they don't get a reward out right there's very few in far between that don't want to carry insurance I would think yeah I think there's a lot of new employees that don't want Insurance you got two groups you've got the young people that
013still on their parents and then you got our retired folks like our bus drivers that are on the plane and with a former employer only two groups of people that and we've talked in the past about maybe making considering making some modifications to that um where there's some opt in or opt out and that would give them maybe a different pay um but there is a lot of behind the scenes calculations that need to go on with that even to get us to that point and then in order to substain that point because the way that the County systems were you probably explain it better than I can I'm recounting from what you told us but there would be a lot of hand calculations if I'm calling correctly because the way that the County finance
014systems work we wouldn't really be able to do that within the system itself right I remember it was a house so that would be hand calculations for the employees that have maybe chosen not to take it and were changing what their salary is because of it so we want Mr steep to get anything different to us on that regarding it don't see the benefit right now the biggest thing is getting you the percentage for the classified raise CU um it would help like I said before it' help we get the salaries passed and we know that's what we're going to do in the budget since that's the majority of our budget M so passing the salary piece first so you you would prefer that we break this up into chunks to pass it in sections
015versus passing it as a whole um unless unless y'all can just say you're good with how these salaries are set up if you get to a point to where there's no complaints about it I mean we can not pass it but I think I think it would be good to pass it early so that that 86% we know is going to be this number so like uh Mr King explained before after any one of these work sessions if we give enough notice we can just schedule a special call and just vote on something so that's what I would recommend cuz we're already going to be here Thursday but you're not ready to vote on it Thursday I I'm not saying you have to I'm just saying that's an option as as far as this salary
016scale goes can we see the total amount of I guess um supervisors and admins total amount of classified hourly then total amount of classified salary yep broken into those categories versus going sheet by sheet and having it broken out by Department yeah that's I mean I was going to try to do some of that but the Sheet's locked that's fine that's easy okay I got that okay and so 2% being as I'm calling it The Sweet Spot and the one that we're looking at first off it what would be the the second recommendation if we didn't do the 2% what's the it's just going to be more money to go to 3% I mean that's that's the difference we're looking at where we are to our budget we can show we can show what that
017looks so I'll get that out to you hopefully as soon as we can so you see the percentage increase in what it would look like for classified versus admin at 2 3 4 5 6 one more thought that I had on this was what if what if we St the 2% and then look at health care packages for some that don't get it now I know that some of our classified employees don't get the same Health Care considerations okay we'll have to know the number of people that that affects all that kind of stuff yeah that's why I didn't I couldn't answer it and you're saying full-time classified yes can I ask kind of a weird question to go along with this how do how does our because of where our salaries are and everything
018how does that affect our attrition rate and and losing people having to hire them back I mean how many are we having to throughout the year replace because they just they quit they go away whatever else you know what kind of turn over to other counties yeah or turn over to just other jobs in the count in in this County that are paying more and things like that you know I mean I know that there's a cost to having to hire someone there's an HR cost if if nothing else how much does it cost us each time we have to hire a new person to replace somebody that left from a cost avoidance perspective yeah yeah usually several thousands of dollars yeah from the studies that I've seen not to mention the loss that you
019have and starting over with someone crash yeah I have the time training and everything else so I know that that that cost alone can be you know it's more expensive like for example a bus driver that we've trained yeah and put a lot of time and effort into yeah financially as well as opposed to maybe another position but a lot of our folks um the attrition here a lot of times is not to another County a lot of folks they just decide to go home they retire I mean we have people that have worked here 35 years and then you know they go home and retire most most of ours are retirements more than turnover yeah okay can I ask one question is your question regarding most of our classified people there's probably less than
020a dozen that have any coverage other than simple because they can't afford is that what you so what I'm getting at is what do we provide the teachers versus what we the teachers do correct yeah but the hourly don't right they just they have their single coverage and if you want any other coverages you pay 100% Yeah question for you Mr step in the administration since I have been here and been involved in the budget process we've always just equally said you know 2% for classified percentage for certified and then a step raise or a 3,000 like we did last year are there any classified positions or non-certified positions that we're finding that are harder to fill that we should be looking at those a little differently rather than doing a percentage across the board
021we need to be looking at where we're having trouble filling that we need to be more Market marketable with yeah I mean bu drivers are tough uh any of the um assistants teacher assistants that work in Behavior settings that kind of stuff's hard custodial is always custodial is hard yeah technical maintenance to you have any trouble don't have turn over there okay very little in technical well we had that one um pair professional that came in and she was she started how much lower we were than all the surrounding counties um for that position that's like you said one of the the harder positions to ours is a graduated scale and like I said she was calling out a number but I don't know how many years of experience they had and and there's some
022other methods that play into that yeah and also she stated that night that they're required to take a test which is a Paro tester that have hours of college credit all assistants have to have that not just special education assistance so that's something we require for all of yeah so to help staff those positions would you all recommend that we look at those separately or stick with the across the board method I mean we can pull like bus drivers out if we want to uh we stay short bus drivers and we probably what 10 short right now eight eight now so we got a couple more back on board so yeah looking at a different pay scale for them would be good but we we have increased theirs substantially mhm and most of the ones
023that quit either they retire or they're just it's too much job I don't know that another more money is going to make going to they have crazy hours responsibility mhm how about like the custodial or the teachers assistance that yall mentioned would that be I I'm just looking for your professional opinion you're in it doing it every day so you know should we be taking a different approach to this and saying we're having trouble in these areas let's not do a flat across the board for everybody and kind of pick and choose where we need to make sure that we're filling back filling um if not then keep going with the across you know right now I keep going with across the board we across the board we need to raise it up I guess
024look at cuz when I came here 6 years ago this $158 was $8 less than $8.50 so we have made some St we have I we there's been a concerted effort along with money spent on studies and you we've worked to bring that dollar amount up and the thing that you folks did that really helped this the most is allowing people to bring their experience as a custodian to the custodial skate right that they didn't have to come and start over right just like a certified staff if they had 10 years of P experience they start at year 10 not year zero that's good and that's made a big difference and then also help with the assistance yeah so how would you say we have many people starting at the zero level not okay good
025all right so 2% increase and then the 2% step raise on top of it so really we're looking at around a 4% for the majority probably another six on their insurance right thank you for the clarification and brainstorming we'll try to get this out quickly to you um yes so that y'all have until Thursday afternoon to look at it and I encourage you as you got questions when you're looking at this stuff just to email me uh some of this stuff I can I'll have ready for the Thursday meeting this stuff your questions here I'll have ready but if you have others email me and we'll go ahead and get that information ready for you before the meeting and that way you can have it at at your finger chips already so the goal would
026be to approve the salary whenever y'all are ready next meeting if if everybody's okay with it but if everybody's not then we need to keep talking we can put down schedle vote [Music] ready yeah postpone it for not works better that way so the I guess the hard part for me on this is when you go over at the budget they're in different lines so you don't have everything combined with that 2 3 4% you have to go and figure out which line that affects and what the overall total is going to be affected that way is there any way can identify those lines M that would be affected by classified I mean maybe just with a highlight or something what color I can do it off the top of my head we'll start a
027key color key yeah do that and do classifi one color yeah sour yeah and then unlock that so I can work on it and then you asked for it to be lumped together yeah she's working on that yeah yeah she's she's already got that anyway I think from that's the way it was looked at in previous years MH so it give you give us an idea to Total overall budget amount MH y okay with taxes and insurance or just Sals if I can if you can highight if you can highlight the salary line I can see the taxes are I just want to make sure I don't miss anything on the totals that's what I'm getting at okay what next after salaries we covered all the salary mhm so about I want to get we've
028been working on this list here I got this list down these are the maintenance major projects and then the rotational things that word [Music] y down here myself clumps So the plan rotation these are the schools and what they're up for course that's been mapped out for 10 or 15 years right Miss Bray I have to go back and look at my spreadsheet and then the major projects so just the the rotation would be approximately $1.78 million uh in that the if you see the $200,000 that's just for the maintenance department to fix things throughout the year um repairs and that kind of stuff that come up then the major projects you got Martin electric Phase 2 South fire alarm Martin drain system South gem floor and smhs track those are total to 2.16 where's
029the cchs fire one the Cs be done this year that'll be done this year okay yeah okay along with no okay and they we bid those out right before summer 30 days or more before summer so that the bid stays good okay question um we had Mr Chamberlain's grou do the engineering evaluation allot the schools and come back with the priorities at the schools so have we aligned this maintenance plan rotation with that or is this just on on the same old this is what's due rotation this is what's due rotation but we took care of the the fours and fives last year and we'll look at that plan again but um with the amount of money we're looking at with the major projects uh we think we're going to be okay okay in what
030regard with what we've proposed here okay all right so these are all things Miss bre as the COO that it's not just up for rotation but it's also needed oh yes okay yeah there there invite you to go in any school any probably the eth grade boys bathroom I know the bathrooms are always I can imagine horrendous I just know there's been discussion in the last couple years that sometimes things come around for a rotation and they are absolutely necessary and and sometimes they're not so necessary so that's why we were talking about you know working that engineering report into like the electrical at Martin that's a big priority yeah and that was one of the things that was identified the roof at um Brown will get done that was identified yeah these are like
031everything out of a five got to be mhm corrected y so I'll shoot that report to you and Matthews I think I have I have that you do have I did share okay that's the one that they they did the evaluations on each School MH yes y I do have that that was back right when I first started okay I don't think I that okay we'll get that to you now so last meeting we talked about not doing those projects now we're moving forward with those projects no the discussion was I'm going to show you what it looks like if we don't do them don't do them that are Bid out what's that number look like I was just giving youall book in situations here's to to move on in our current strength y in
032the Gap and then stuff we could not do in what that Gap is so we we've moved forward with those now the discussion from that meeting okay yeah got you yeah so we haven't bit them out yet but we they're ready it's just the timing we got to hit it in April I think not that we can't go back and look at things but those things were items that have been kicked down the road through prior budget processes and their Safety and Security issues actually said that I was just providing numbers I wasn't saying do this or don't do that just suggestions well just numbers not even suggestions right oh yeah just numbers just numbers yeah and it's North's year for the renovation piece right and that was if I'm remembering correctly there were postponed
033yes okay because South have been postponed her got postponed so everything has been bumped back so the homestead electrical is going to happen this year too phase one probably not this year we need to discuss what we're going to do at Homestead in general I think before we move forward with that electrical so it's just not on your not at the present time but yes it's still can be I mean it's in same both as South and Mar is that something we need to go ahead and have in the budget and if we don't do it then it I had it in here and then I like I said I would still a little up in airport we going do because it will make a difference as far as the electrical as far as if
034we did an addition or whatever we can put it back we'll put it cuz I have a priz conversations of kind of phase one in in in this budget I have it prized so it's not a problem it back okay yeah I think definitely a priority in my eyes is safety security education pieces and then of course meeting what we need to for the salary increases for state law to stay competitive um all big bucket items though South fire alarm is the same as just wor out of Parts excuse me is that the same as cchs they just don't have parts anymore you have a lot of original equipment in 40 girl builds so their end of life like it's all kind of hitting at once like mhm when you build two schools kind at
035the same m m yep yeah and what's being done at the South gym floor is that a Reish oh no the South gym floor is a disaster we tried everything there there's moisture there's the one where the water's coming in we' spent probably more money than we should have trying to correct the issue and I've had fers come out and that's really the only option they're giving us now is to replace it so had the humidifiers in it trying to keep the moisture out of it but have we now fixed the moisture problem so then if we put a new floor in it won't continue to be a problem hopefully we got that corrected but it's just the damage that has been done is done M yeah okay holds up to a lot of beating
036but water is not one of them tends to ruin that wood floor it looks really good atically [Music] yeah H so and again just like the north renovation being bump back a year I'm seeing some things on this list that were extended from prior years because we hadn't gotten it into the budget so it's definitely important in my experience from prior budget years a lot of things didn't get itemized in the budget and when the discussion occurred about how is this going to be paid for it was it'll have to come from the general fund right so and that's an issue obviously obviously and it also puts not only us but the Commission in a position where in essence we're somewhat turning our budget decisions over to the commission because every time something comes out
037of the general fund we have to go to them and get permission for it right so we definitely need to make sure that if it's something that needs to be done we're getting it in the budget for the overall budget approval so we don't have to go back and forth on that yeah um this next year and we're not going to the commission and saying can we use the money for this now was in the budget it's line item and it's approved when everything is approved right right I got the recommendation to add HS back on for electri okay so we'll have that ready Thursday okay yeah cuz we don't know where to Scott's point where the discussion is going to go or how quickly it's going to go cuz all that's kind of tabled
038out again with the change of the Committees on the commission and think we lost some progression with what we're going to do out there longterm at [Music] Homestead we've had a lot of discussion lately about Stone's football field and and tennis courts are those things that we need to consider in this budget repairing those or or we on the we could put the um track into this budget the track is the track so the field um I'm trying to get it fixed right now so there'll probably be a request for a certain amount of money to take care of the final parts of it in the next meeting um if we have to do that so that we can get it ready now it can mature over the summer and be ready and all August
039for the first game is that going to be a permanent fix or is that just to get us through this this football season I think it would be permanent I think that's looking for a permanent fix to it I adding the drains and yeah fixing the drains and also the uh have plans on sing the entire field okay the crown and all that and the tennis court discussion I mean we're looking at that for both schools and we're looking at a huge chunk for that so I guess well we're we're currently Dr maddox's currently talking to the city and the county on other options good where we could partner with them that's a great idea maybe have one complex you know but nothing is finalized with that I know there's a great idea so how
040many other systems are doing that how many other systems that we compete against are sharing public tennis courts rather than having their it it depends it depends that like I didn't have ten courts the school I taught there I principal at we didn't have access to them they had to go to the community courts over by a trace sure so that was my experience so nice if our YMCA had courts yeah hey I asked about that right from the GetGo said there was there was property it's hard 10 cours to the swimming pool it creates a scheduling issue with two schools playing the same sport at the same complex don't disagree and it also creates practice scheduling issues and time of matches depending on how many courts you have then you have to have lighting
041if we had that along with the optional practice areas that we have now then that would at least increase what we've got and also guess put us in a position where there could be competitions right we we have to have a a facil large enough that both teams can practice at the same time uh but on top of that when they play matches most of the time we can we can schedule we've had to do it before with things away at home way at home M so I don't think that that' be a big issue with it we would like to have it at both places yeah eventually but we're really running out of a lot of space at one of our high schools yeah there's there's some a little bit of land left over
042behind the football stadium about 5 Acres but uh develop that that's that's the large cost that's plenty to build a lot of tennis courts 5 Acres yeah yeah sounds like there needs to be I'm I'm happy you started that discussion I've met with the city and I've also met with the county and and they're looking into some of the options that we have an official start of the discussion I've been planning bu people's ears but nothing official so in hopes that we can all work together for the community and the schools and and they both seem you know re mm of it okay so it sounds like we need to make a little more progression with that before thinking about budgeting for it especially where we are for the budget this year cuz that's a
043need sort of but I mean when we're looking at the number of students that that impacts compared to some of these other do we know how many that is I me last time we asked there was 27 students on the Tenn I think total from both both schools both schools yeah tennis teams we looked at it I think over the last three seasons MH the yeah so for competitive small not that it can't be used for PE and things like that for the rest of the students but still when we're talking scale of impact cuz lots of lots of football there's a lot of kids that impacts from track too yeah track Middle School you know flag football now and and everything else I mean so it's a multi-use feeli it really is gets a
044lot of heavy use too and well you got also have the community you know with Junior Panthers Junior Jets that's a lot of traffic on this field yeah so if we have a place to put them now or repair them can we get give access to the community and and work on the ones that we have most certainly you talk about as far as those tennis ports yeah maybe it's like it's Stone you know is we've already got the space we've already got the courts they're not fible I mean we looked at that to see if they're not fixed they're not they already have yeah yeah they' been repaired multiple times multiple times and apparently the way that the ground was prepared and again the water they keep them the engineer suggested doing a s
045sample of that property immediately crossed and flipping them perhaps to over there and making that a parking lot but he was their toast and he said there's no at this point there's no going back it would be a complete one person that we talked to well two okay I'm just asking and then there's been the people that have repaired them over years there's been quite a bit of money spent trying to repair okay been multiple repairs and I've been out there to look at them and actually measured cracks and the ones that aren't being used have cracks that you can tell had been repaired multiple times and they're like this and the ones that are being used have repair spots on them and some smaller cracks um how what are we down to three or
046four that they're actually using you talk about which school uh when I was there just a few days ago checking out a couple things of that field uh I saw one cor looked normal there were cracks in all them the whole but they were still using some of the ones that weren't terribly cracked last year there I think there was three or four of them in play they're using for practice so one of the questions that I had just regarding the Athletics is we had talked about putting the athletic maintenance into some kind of rotation like we do for our buildings and grounds um is that something that's being looked at putting into place as we go into next year doing a little evaluation or putting together heard you guys talk about that at all
047yeah we've talked has it been a couple work sessions that that's come up I think um and just so we get an idea of what's going on where the where we need may need to be doing maintenance for wear and tear okay I think what's the what's budgeted for that like was it 50,000 or 20,000 that's budgeted for well the grass I've been that's that one was an accurate statement that night cuz I went back and I looked there's other things that we pay out of other lines for that like irrigation equipment fertilizer grass seed sand so there probably at least 50 to 75,000 that comes out of Mary's budget in various Pockets that goes towards the for grounds maintenance for grounds maintenance and then at the elementary schools we do chips and things like
048that out of their budget but we were thinking just to get a grasp on what's wearing out what's going to you know the needs that are going to be coming forward so when we're and I know we're already in the stages of budget planning for this year and we've got the track on there but we're having this discussion about the tennis boards and I think be a good idea back some time ago you guys had I believe the board had discussed having someone come in and study that at one time if I'm not mistaken we did we did anything about it we talked about we you talk about it but I didn't know where it went after that after that it was two elementary schools looking at trying to create a study to see how
049much it's going to cost to turn those into Middle School Fields that's what that no okay well that too something separate yeah that was separate but this was yeah having looking at the stuff before it gets to that and having kind of a rotation in place like we do for the building and grounds but this being you know equipment and Fields as we move forward I think it'd be a good idea because if we we spend this type of money on on the track then you just might as well Bank on many years have to do it again budget so much each year the same thing going it's going to wind up happening here at C County high school as well right you know and if we do end up going down the middle school
050road then we're going to have the athletic equipment and grounds and all for that so it's just really about maintaining our investment I mean if we're investing this kind of money into one thing makes sense to being good Steward so is that something as my question was if we're going to do something like that do we need to go outside and pay someone to do it or do we have the resources internally where we could put that together ourselves because if we have to go outside do we need to look at adding that cost into the budget we can go half outside I think we can do that okay we know what we spend now with boosters and everything that's going on with that to keep the fields up and the facilities up uh we
051haven't done the formal calculation on that in a while which but that's not that's not hard to come up with I think we did that some some time ago and it was uh it was really shocking to see what what the parents were were raising every year and it's I'm sure it's haven't grown since there there a lot it wasn't for our parents you know when people dedicated what we do that's not in common I'll say that that's not in common with school systems no because a lot of times what what we do is we've lost in in our community we've lost a lot of our youth sports programs what used to be part of our rec center when you guys grew up around here that was taking care of a lot of the elementary
052top basketball and some of the sports yeah M we don't have that fall into the schools it goes into the schools are taken care of the why will help with some of that well we also looked at some some of our organization that's already in place there's been some discussion there as well I've met a couple times of the uh they call it it's not Parks and Recreation anymore they call it leisure activities through the city I've met on two different occasions with with Mason Fox and Ethan medley discussing the possibility of pulling some of back keeping keeping our schools uh actively involved but not on the government side of it as far as running the process because we're running through a lot of expenses but we don't want to cut down any type of
053participation yeah oh it's just getting it's been difficult and it's getting more and more difficult to be able to afford covering a lot of that to carry to carry it for the community rather than some Community shared involvement on that and that's the that's one of the biggest things is all of our elementary schools we used to have each one had a football team each one had their own basketball teams they had buses that ran them back and forth and it allowed for kids to be able to participate in all those things and all those extracurricular activities um where some now you know if it wasn't for parents driving them back and forth um they they don't get to get they don't get to participate and even some of them I mean like some of
054the different um cheer teams and this that and the other the money that they're expected to raise just to support that one you know one kid I think um there was one that I I heard about that was each kid was responsible for like3 $400 and a family that has multiple kids wanting to do that same thing that's $1,000 $1,500 really fast you know that families can't afford and it's simply because the the our school systems are not supporting those things like they once did need to start talking to the legislature for next session y or can we get some help so line 420 is the lawn care supplies it was 14,000 and 23 24 it's 275s estimated for this year is that enough to support all of our baseball football fields that gives you
055sand fertilizer Andress is what I'm providing over that what I'm asking is is that enough to support that depends on the on on the the field itself of what's happened to it because it may support it one year but then what happens when you have a have an ie storm that tears down all the Nets right you those kind of things and uh so I think it varies from year to year so if if you had that year over-year then we could average it and create a budget that would possibly cover that you could predict a little bit better that way yeah and then drainage and septic was 487 and not all of that that's that's public for the district the biggest expenses the Sprint yeah when they have to be rep you're looking at
056$1,500 easy yeah that's and then that and the lighting on the fields is very expensive anytime DC driv truck on the field that's $2,000 what page were you looking at Scott um it's um maintenance of plant3 VC has to do it because they have we don't have the truck we don't have a b truck col to reach the we need to find somebody with the truck so VC charges us $2,000 every time they come on to replace lights they charge for the truck budget line 420 but spread sheeet line 590 my God that's insane yeah that's ridiculous appar but it's not hasn't been in a while who needs to talk to VC column if you go all the way to the left side it's it's a row 590 is the lawn care supplies and then
057we have about 100,000 like fure repair which is very expensive course that's an IND door thing but that's still yeah I can imagine I turned my page view off got it in normal view you me pull it back put it back on that's it yeah 420 lawn care supplies L 420 and drainage and septics just below that and then I don't know leure parts of that that's $ 5.99 M all right so if we can do it inhouse then we wouldn't need to budget for having somebody come from outside which would be helpful and then that's something we could start looking at Dr Maddox yes okay all right that was all all the questions that I had regard regarding the maintenance fees this time so I guess we could talk about this now with the
058state retirements 9% increase this year over no it's not a 9% it will be 9% it will be 9% can you explain that a little bit better okay there's three different plans for pcrs you have the people that are in the legacy plan they have different rate it's low but those number of employees are the people that were hired before June 30th of 2014 so there's less and less of those then there people that are in the hybrid plan are certified set with their hybrid stabilization that's around 9% the state set that then the classified votes like myself the County Commission stat sets that but that will be after our budget has been established currently 8.75 the last two years they have raised it I'm guessing okay so that's the three rates what I use
059when I budget for classified is the 9% and then on all certified I just go with the high number because being those categories it's very hard for me to know who's hybrid and then who's Legacy so the actual versus the budget that that I ask for would help help us realize what that is closer to what that's going to be I mean that's a big number that it's so yes you can see it like I said it depends e with the classify that's a set Fe for everybody the difference is your your certified staff there's two different unique plans I got you yeah I'm just I'm just wondering if that total so that that over inflates the budget if slightly yes but you got to be careful because the hybrid stabilization is in a different
060account so you got to right I'm just trying to get a closer number for that that's where I'm I might to pull a payroll report and get the exact number of people but of course it's also based on what they make CU it's a percentage of their I know it's just an estimate I'm just trying to like I said I estimated High yeah because the number of people that are in the older plan obviously they're rolling off y okay Mr BR that 9% is the rate not actual 9% it's just the rate that's will be I like I said there again I don't know what the commission is going to pick for their fols which is what our classified people will be at but they won't do that until later but it's currently at 8.75
061and with insurance it's a percentage increase yes it is a percentage increase but I'm estimating that we don't have anything hard on that that's based on what's happened the last 3 to 5 years which is a pretty good guess well it's anywhere from 6 and A2 to 7 depending on the plan right hopefully they won't get more but they could are there other questions Mr step we've got 141 142 and 143 mostly what we're looking at here is 141 pieces those to it in there you give us an idea how how long we're looking to have all that done so the federal side we don't get our projected estimates until April so somewhere around that second third week of April um so couple weeks before we get the actual numbers the allocations from the state
062uh there's some some we're not sure of I know we're getting Title Five back so that's good title two is being somewhat um affected by the uh federal government so hopefully we'll have those allocations the exact numbers in that week of April 15th [Music] okay we just looking at can we take 143 as a separate item and pass it ahead of time 142 we have possible I'll have to get with those departments a lot of us like we're doing now we're projecting because we don't know exact numbers for certain things we're going to hit our goal of April 15th kind of have to happen yes but I'll get a timeline for those 142 143 for you are there other questions or discussions we need to have this afternoon chairman can I ask a question for
063clarification yeah if M Bray is able to pull it together or he want him to classifi teacher SC voting item for Thursday in case you all do decide to vote I've got that down here to do yes [Music] are we still good to meet on the third do we need to wait till the 8 I'm available third yeah I'm good Thursday I gave you enough time y okay okay if there's nothing else questions from the media there nothing else I guess we're ready to adjourn for today thank you