001good afternoon we're convening the joint committees on transportation and education and senate here in conference room 229 as well as uh online for the purpose of hearing one measure sb2544 let's just note that in case we lose the feed uh we'll find another uh date for this agenda item otherwise uh we do have testimony we'll note in writing from a number of our testifiers today so for those who are testifying in person we just ask you to summarize your comments so we can get to everybody and with that on sb 2544 this is relating to safe routes to schools it establishes the safe routes to schools advisory committee and testifying first is the department of transportation hello chair ed sniffen from the toronto transportation stand our testimony in opposition thank you up next is department
002of budget and finance comments uh department of health oh excuse me state council on developmental disabilities in support department of health with comments uh hawaii bicycling league and support bike share hawaiian support uh aloha care in support apologize oh important fans yeah with our testimony thank you so much chairs have a happy valentine's day oh thank you american heart association support get fit kawaii with us in support ulupono initiative good afternoon chair lee kidani members of the committees michael munich on behalf of the ulupono initiative we'll stand on our testimony and support thank you thank you path hawaii and support uh maui bicycling league in support hawaii public health institute a lot of chairs amanda fernandez on behalf of hawaii public health institute i'm also here on behalf of the statewide obesity prevention task force
003we strongly support this measure it was one of three priorities chosen by the task force over the summer to push this year that we feel will have one of the greatest impacts on health especially with our keiki we really appreciate the committee's hearing this important bill and we do hope it will move forward we believe that it is the all community's responsibility to take care of kids if kids are being hit by cars struck by cars on their way to school um and we know that a lot of the pedestrian um the pedestrian incidents um and car crashes that are happening um uh with k that involve kids happen during the hours you know when they're going to or from school we know that a lot of our infrastructure is not made for kids to
004safely walk bike roll or bus to school and we're hoping that safe routes to school fully implemented in hawaii will go a long way in changing that and make sure that we can move away from an auto-centric society and really enhance the health and well-being of all children in the state we're available for any questions thank you so much for hearing the measure thank you up next is blue zones project hawaii in support american diabetes association support and office of foreign affairs with comments we have additional support from 16 individuals with one in opposition is there anyone who's with us today uh wishing to testify who's who's been missed get everybody okay with that that's all our testifiers are there any questions no questions sure thank you chair uh for department of transportation it's sniffing
005that's true um how much funding or funds are we talking about for for the federal program justice school program um the funding stopped in 2012. so the funds that are left over in this federal state foster school program is like 1.3 million 800 000 for infrastructure and about 500 000 for non-infrastructure at this time there's an ii in safe routes to school is recognized again map 21 took it out um iija recognizes it again but there is no funding that's dedicated to it so we don't anticipate any more funds being added to this safe routes to school program not in the existing legislation so the way the way that the congress had pushed for it is identifying it as a program again but not identifying any funding towards it so there's a potential that there
006could be funding in the future that gets directed towards it but there's no funding at this time so what would it cost to hire a full-time safe routes to school coordinator i think all loaded i mean loaded rate i'm assuming this would be like an sr26 sr28 kind of person loaded rate would be about 120 000. okay thank you thank you further questions i have a question for sure yes um so ed since the department had been doing this before and you're already familiar with the program so if you have a position for the as noted in the bill the coordinator do you need a committee to tell you what to do i i don't think so senator from my perspective so we've had this program for a while yeah that's what i thought yes
007we're trying to wind down the funding that's existing in the program the problem has always been when we push funding out towards communities community groups or counties it's very difficult to get applicants coming in for the program partially because when you use federal funding on anything the requirements for delivering that project go up so it's very difficult from our perspective we're trying to see what we can do with with federal highways to see if we can potentially utilize that funding within the state program and then put out state funding to replace it i think it'd be a lot easier for a lot of community groups to use state funding versus the federal one and you can continue the program rather than wait until you got federal funds exactly makes sense the premise of this bill
008is that there is no point of contact within the division or within dot to have these conversations with which is not the case we push out our hawaii hoist bike plan refresh and our pedestrian master plan to ensure that we get as much input as possible from the community happy to have the conversation with anybody we absolutely support getting kids to school safely but if you look at eight hundred thousand dollars for a statewide program it's not going to be enough so we've been advocating for pushing for these as cip projects that we push out from the division to take care of a lot of big needs versus just small little ones in different areas okay thank you thank you other cheers on this measure i have another question of ed with d.o.t um so
009with the 1.3 million in the fund currently is this money spoken for do you have projects to use it for um good question chair we had two projects that were taking up to 800 000 but both of the recipients dropped out they said they couldn't deliver the projects so it's back into the system again we're pushing our project forward in nanakuli um to improve the pedestrian paths on the mauka side of the farrington highway and as you and i both know that area that has rolled curb it's slanted very difficult to use and it connects up to the nanakuli schools that are in the valley so we're going to change those out it's 15 million dollars and we're thinking if we cannot find a recipient for the 800 000 we would roll that money into
010that project to make sure it gets expended thank you for that yes thank you further questions um it's not i've got just a couple and following up on um uh senator kiddani's questions about sources of funding as far as iaja i mean at least notwithstanding who knows what may be in the future let's just count that out for the moment but for what we have right now what's in the pipeline for the next five years are there other grant opportunities for these kinds of projects that the state and counties and so forth can apply for absolutely there's significant amounts of money in discretionary grants that are available to states and counties and some of those discretionary grants are only available to counties so all told in the programs that are coming through about 50 billion
011that's available over the next five years in discretionary grants that's all competitive that we have to compete with other states and so forth nothing's guaranteed correct thanks and then just following up with um hph i believe it was unless department of health is here [Music] and chris i should add just on on that note our our statewide programs are gearing up towards those discretionary grants for the state i got to say though 85 percent of the schools actually on the county systems so there's only about 15 of schools that are on state systems on those for those areas we're pushing the priorities for those schools but in in on the county system we're not dictating to the counties what their priorities should be thanks is h is excuse me department of health or hpha still
012here i'm sorry not hpg i'm sorry hawaii public health institute i'm reading this wrong my apologies i'm here and then i also saw that uh bev brodie is now on the zoom okay thanks very much um so just following up on this uh obviously we're having a discussion here where i think everybody's generally in agreement with the young purpose which is how do we keep kids safe and upgrade infrastructure particularly in school areas where we have a lot of accidents and crashes and so forth i know obviously this particular bill came out of an effort with a bunch of different stakeholders over the last year um meeting with i think the doe department of health other community groups etc they're obviously not here testifying before us right now but is there what was the genesis
013of that and really why are we here and not just i guess business as usual funding projects as they come i might actually ask to to share the time with bev if um it would be possible to unmute her i think she could really speak well to the the need for the srts programming um but i will say that we hear a lot from communities that would otherwise want to apply for for funding um with the dot that the compute that the process is too confusing or burdensome and so what the advisory committee would really do is get all stakeholders on board it's a collaborative process it brings the counties and the state and the different agencies as well as community members together to figure out what are the metrics of success moving forward how
014can we streamline these funding sources from the state and the federal government so it's all of these and i i would love to pass it over to bev if you have anything to add i know you didn't get the opportunity to testify earlier hello we can hear you oh i can speak i i apologize profusely for being late thanks for calling my name my name is bev brody i'm the director of get fit kauai which is the healthy eating active living coalition on kauai county we have about a thousand affiliates just a little over that represent multiple sectors and disciplines they include educators parents students elected officials engineers city planners business and community leaders health officials bicycle and pedestrian advocates law enforcement hawaii department of health and hawaii department of transportation and numerous uh community
015individuals and we've been promoting active living for the past well since 1994. and we have a county-wide um safe routes to school task force and we've been able to the in 2012 if you recall governor amber crombie signed that hb 2626 into into law and um that was the um a fine based mechanism for moving traffic violations that's what the special fund is about and um h dot has done an exceptional job i just have to say in the disbursement of these funds to the counties based on the formulas that were established through the administration rulemaking and um providing annual reports to the legislature and i guess it asks you a question sorry i just wanted to give a little intro is i think that it would be very very beneficial we feel kind of
016like a little bit alone out here to have a statewide effort to move forward some of these goals to actually establish performance measures and goals and um it would also be very great to secure some funding with this uh on unburdensome funding from the fine based funds i just am curious where is that money now like none of the counties have seen any of that money for their safe routes to school program this this i'm just wondering is there a mechanism right now for us to be able to apply for that money or um prior to this just counties were given um distributions of the money is that not right ed it was i'm just thinking right and that's not that's not happening now and it sure would be helpful for us to move forward
017with our programs but what would be more helpful and what would be a big win is to have a state wide safe house to school coordinated full time that could bring us together and we could come up with these performance measure goals statewide goals that we could really start to create safer ways for the kids to walk and bike to school and roll um they love it they love to walk to school and the benefits of it are numerous too numerous to take up much more of your time so i'm gonna sorry yeah i know if we could wrap that up thank you i think what i was trying to get it is why are we here and um is it doe with us i know they had submitted late testimony hello chair randy tanaka
018the oe hi mr tanaka thank you very much and i apologize um i it might have been a glitch on our end getting your testimony processed um but that being said i think fundamentally what we've been looking at is trying to help our schools collectively whether they're on kauai or wahoo or wherever is there is there additional basically is there additional benefit that can be had trying to coordinate with doe and dot here in a way that we can put in place some basic goals or structure to some of this um the way you know our our end goal is the same a safe pathway for our our students to get to school and return home um of reason in the last year and a half i've worked much closer with ed sniffen and we're
019talking about this bill a little bit and it seems like there are a number of things in place um that is led through the dot so i think that needs and deserves maybe a a revisit on what we're doing there but it seems like uh we have a good pathway there so i would once again objective is is the same i think we're all on the same page safety first to school and from school and go from there thank you thanks and following up ed just on your end so in your testimony i believe you had referenced um existing structures within dots the state uh highway safety council and whatnot to sort of be the place if we made them the repository where they could come up with programmatic goals and um metrics to track
020progress etc etc is that generally a direction that you'd be open to absolutely as long as it's part of the overall program like i said this shouldn't be considered just just the program the program is a statewide bike and program to ensure that we connect everybody but we're starting with schools first because that's the area that we see the most conflicts between vehicles bikes and pedestrians so if we're looking at that i'm good with it um if we're trying to carve this out as a separate piece to just be funded by by safe foster school very difficult for anybody to deliver a program on on six hundred thousand dollars so if we're looking at this as a programmatic as a goal as a whole that's that's perfect and just following up on that how can
021we be so i think this has been part of the the issue that's been raised right you had uh obviously way more need than there is resources part of i think the frustration that we've heard from some folks through the safe routes to schools working group that's been going on for the last two years that there hasn't been the capacity to um or really the programmatic structure to make it easy for schools to or community groups to come forward to apply and then make sure that that stuff's prioritized in a way that obviously delivers i totally agree but but again this is a federal process we've got to follow it's not one that we made up it's one that we have to follow because that's what's required for that federal funding which is why i'm
022saying that the difficulty in this whole program is that federal peace i'm trying to pull that out because there's no more funding coming to safe routes to school and it should be funded by ta that taps i'm trying to look at absorbing into the dot and making state funds available for that ta program if that's the case then there's a lot of community groups that can develop or that can deliver on state funding we don't have any work to worry about nepa without having to worry about the federal requirements and we're not having to worry about those difficulties in that federal program so for me that's the goal to make sure that we can absorb those ta funds into state projects make state highway funds available to uh to the communities for this types of
023projects to ensure that we can push that kind of funding out to the public thanks and so just following up so for all the the working group folks department of health department of education other various community stakeholders and so forth have been going at this over the year i mean is there a way we can incorporate everybody into the same room because you know as it stands i mean i was in most of those or a good number of those meetings dot was the only one that wasn't actively participating what's interesting this was the product that came out i mean that was the interesting part i was never invited to any of those meetings so i don't know what happened during those discussions i did what i do know is we i want to make
024sure that we can treat this as a full program not just the portion that we that we portion out of it we want to make sure that our bike and ped plans are tied into schools and tied into funding that's available to push out on significant projects versus just these small pieces so i don't know what was discussed in the meetings i do know that that all of these groups are invited to the hsa hshc meetings and a lot of them a lot of them come to those meetings to to provide input and then lastly on that point if we were to do something parallel to the state highway safety council within d.o.t that incorporates a lot of these folks because the highway safety council itself obviously is every issue under the sun when it
025comes to highways and safety and it's mostly prosecutors and law enforcement and other folks and it's only half filled right now uh is that something you'd be open to can we craft something that brings everybody together on the same page so that we know that this particular issue is a priority when it comes to focus on school areas so this issue is a priority but i would rather make sure that we look at it from a programmatic perspective talking about one portion of the program without considering the others is very difficult so if everybody's on the same page with everything because i get it that bikes and pads gotta be required for safety but there's still vehicles on the system there's these are still conversations we have to have so on that state highway safety
026council it's not just law enforcement we have bicycling league on it we have tommy noyes from kauai who's also a bicycle advocate we try to get as many people from different diverse backgrounds as possible we just can't get enough people involved so if these groups would like to be members of the hschc to have these conversations not only about bike and pedestrian safety but safety overall on the system i would happily endorse that all right thank you any further questions from any of the members or anybody online all right if not let's oh sorry sorry go ahead senator favela um basically this uh uh dlt uh and um i know in the beginning um when i first came in i know we had this the program that we did with paulken elementary walking from the
027community park to the school and i was partially with with your um with your d.o.t division so you're telling me you guys do have this program within your division uh it's just that it's not funded is that all that i'm hearing yeah there's two pieces right state brought to school program there was a state program and there was a federal program the state program was transferred from d.o.t to the state legislature so it's like a granting aid now the federal program is still with d.o.t and it's funded up to was it was funded up to 2012. after that there's no funding that came in from federal government so it stands at about 1.3 million about 800 000 for cip and 500 000 for non-cip work and that's the only funding that's in that portion do
028you think having this [Music] coordinators school rousey roadster school coordinator would enhance this program we already have a we already have a coordinator that was that's responsible for it was responsible for this the state portion and is now responsible for for the federal portion so that position still exists in d.o.t until we expand this funding out that being said we have our bike and ped and active transportation group within the ot already so adding another position won't necessarily help us in implementing this program and then you know like when it comes to state and city jurisdictions with the safe route to school is this if if this goes through is that going to enhance any more things that you guys already have in the pipeline so from my perspective senator and this is this is
029what we always try to get done we we want to make sure that we push the priorities on our system we coordinate with the counties on theirs last thing i want to do is direct them on the priorities for their system so for those 85 of schools that are on their system we would definitely talk about how we connect to them and how we can make be additive to it but having a statewide committee that directs the counties on what they do i don't know if that's if that's stepping over their purview thank you chair thank you chair if i may please i'm sorry who's speaking here i'm sorry this is bev brody speaking hold on if if uh no okay i can't i can't believe i'm going through members questions at the moment so
030if you could just sit tight please i know there are questions from members of the committee if not uh just real quick back to ed if you have one i recognize uh we've been here for a little while now um if we were to have the ability to continue the safe routes to schools efforts have been ongoing for the last year bringing everybody at the table and i know dlt was invited to every single one of those is that something you guys would be open to participating in going forward so chair i don't understand why we wouldn't continue this conversation within the statewide bike and pedestrian programs that we already have in d.o.t i don't understand why we wouldn't pull it into an existing committee like the uh um state estate um safety committee i
031mean from my perspective there's those are groups that have already been established the programs are already moving forward and the robust communication has already gone on with the communities so i would much rather roll this through the coordination that we already have versus creating a new group i think i think let me uh just wrap this up real quick um if there's one last thing on this basically i don't know what the answer is here for how to get everybody at the table i think that's the end goal that we're trying to achieve because it seems like they're conversations happening in different areas i think for the moment we're not going to solve this right here but for the moment is d.o.t open to working with all these other stakeholders we can figure out what
032that looks like as as we move forward in session i guess is what i'm getting at absolutely yes okay okay thank you no thank you thank you any last questions from anybody else all right if not thank you everybody we're in a recess for decision making recess good afternoon we're reconvening the joint committees on transportation and education uh here in room 329 and online we've just heard sb 2544 relating to safe routes to schools which establishes the safe routes to school advisory committee given the conversation and i think some of the questions raised what we like to do is keep the conversation going but we're going to defer this measure for the time being we'll come back and see if we can't follow through with a uh task force and and something else to make
033sure everybody's at the same table that both uh the departments and the other community stakeholders are all engaged and we can get everybody on the same page so we're going to defer the measure for today and that wraps up our agenda mahalo everybody good afternoon welcome to the joint committees on education and higher education welcome to this joint committee hearing today today is monday february 14th at 3 35 we are in hearing room 229 this meeting including the audio and video of remote participants is being streamed live on youtube you will find links to viewing options for all senate meetings on the live and on demand video page of the legislature's website the zoom meeting and youtube live stream event will include the 3 30 3 10 pm agenda for the committee on education and
034committee on higher education in the unlikely event that we have to abruptly end this hearing due to major technical difficulties the committee will reconvene to discuss any outstanding business on wednesday february 16 at three o'clock p.m in this committee room i'd like to take this time to remind our testifiers that due to time restrictions on our hearings we will be limiting testimony to one minute per testifier per bill for people participating remotely please remain muted and video disabled until shortly before it is your turn to testify when i call your name unmute yourself and your time will begin after your one minute is completed staff will mute you so that we can move this hearing along in an orderly and efficient manner thank you for this agenda we are hearing senate bill sd1 relating to
035education to establish a working group to study and prepare an implementation plan for agricultural career pathways and report to the legislature and it makes an appropriation to testify interim superintendent ki payashi please good afternoon cherokee dhani chair kim and members of the committees keith hayashi interim superintendent of the department of education the department supports the intent of senate bill 2928 and provides comments the department believes in the importance of a career and technical education programs and their ability to prepare our students to be workforce ready we stand ready to continue dialogue with the legislature as to the best way to move forward move our programs forward thank you for the opportunity to testify thank you erica lacro vice president for community colleges not present chair [Music] tammy are you giving erica's testimony right i am
036so tammy chun for the university of hawaii i will stand on our wrist and testimony supporting the bill thank you tammy brian miyamoto executive director testifying for hawaii farm bureau fees good afternoon chairs kidani and kim and members of the committee's ramyamoto here on behalf of the hawaii farm bureau we'll stand on a written testimony in support of this measure thank you thank you brian that concludes the oral testimony members are there any questions of the testifiers no question senator kim thank you question for superintendent hayashi hello center kim aloha so um according to your testimony how do you your this bill and what you folks are already implemented how is that differ or how is it similar um the the department has our career pathways um our agriculture food and natural resources program of
037study uh has four different programs of study it includes agriculture and food production of business animal science food systems and natural resource management so those four areas definitely align to to the intent of this bill as well as the department um within that particular pathway within all of our pathways have pathway advisory councils and the advisory councils were formed to advise the standards associated with the courses uh offered in this in the particular pathway it's comprised of industry professionals uh post-secondary instructors secondary teachers and an administrator from the uh post-secondary or secondary level so um definitely aligns with uh with sb um and so um it we are able to um work together and moving forward with this effort so is is it are we duplicating what you're already doing or is it enhancing or
038i'm a little confused here well it's actually enhancing what we're doing um building upon what the department has are are it is it is it is not a duplication at all and so is the doe supportive yes we are okay because you just had comments so i wasn't sure if you were commenting in support or yes we're commenting in support thank you senator thank you chair the questions members do we need to go into the room no need to break up what do thank you after discussion with the uh higher ed chair the recommendation for the department i mean i'm not the department the recommendation for the chair of education would be to pass this bill out with amendments the amendments would be to move the working group to report to the due also to
039have working group members selected by the doe in consultation with the university third the appropriation will go to doe for the purposes of the working group and for technical and non-substantive amendments members questions [Music] if not for for uh education pass senate bill 2928 sd1 with amendments cheer votes i for the committee on education on sb2928 sd1 chair's recommendation is the password amendments chair votes i vice chair kim aye senator de la cruz excuse i vote i senator favela hi four eyes chair and one excuse your recommendation is adopted thank you for the committee on higher education same recommendation senate bill 2928 sd1 to pass with amendments discussion not your vote side shares recommendation for on higher education sb 2928 sd1 is the password amendments chair vote vice chair kidani hi senator keith agaron excused
040senator wakai excuse and senator favela chair you have three eyes and two excuse your recommendations adopted thank you thank you this meeting is adjourned welcome to the senate education sorry welcome to the senate committee on education today is monday february 14th for our 315 agenda we are in room 229 this meeting including the audience video of remote participants is being streamed live on youtube you'll find links to viewing options for all senate meetings on the live and on demand video page of the legislature's website where this agenda we have two bills and we will start with senate bill three three three relating to education appropriates supplemental categorial funding for remote schools repo appropriates funds to testify superintendent hayashi please all right geron vice chair brian hallett do you assistant superintendent for fiscal services on behalf
041of superintendent interim superintendent keith hayashi the department stands on his testimony in support of this measure and will be available if there are any questions thank you brian next to testify osatui junior president hawaii state teachers association aloha chair and members of the committee laverne moore speaking on behalf of osatui junior president of the hawaii state teachers association we support senate bill 233 since the passage of act 51 in 2004 weighted student formula has had the unintended consequences of limiting academic programming for children in small and rural schools the hsd agrees with this legislation of subject to legislative appropriations a remote school may receive supplemental categorical funding to support additional instructional and support staff in addition to the allocation determined under the weighted student formula that is made to remote school as identified in this
042bill to provide all keiki in hawaii with access to a quality education the hsd asked your committee to support this bill mahalo laverne next to testify ivan lao interim executive director for hawaii state public charter school commission good afternoon chair kidani vice chair kim members of the committee the state public charter school commission appreciates this opportunity to submit our testimony and strong support the commission deeply appreciates the inclusion of our public charter schools in this funding measure we look forward to working with you on this thank you very much thank you yvonne that concludes the uh oral testimony members any questions on this bill if not we will move on to our second bill which is senate bill 2564 relating to after-school programs appropriates funds for the department of education's resources for enrichment athletics culture
043and health program to match federal dollars that the state receives for the 21st century community learning center to testify interim superintendent hayashi please aloha chair kidani vice chair kim and members of the senate committee on education and kara tanimura interim assistant superintendent for the office of strategy innovation and performance on behalf of interim superintendent hayashi department of education the department stands on its written testimony in support of senate bill 2544 and appreciates the attached appropriation to provide high quality after school programs for intermediate and middle school students thank you thank you yvonne next to testify yvonne lau intern executive director hawaii state public charter school commission good afternoon chair vice chair kim members of the committee the public charter school commission appreciates this opportunity to submit testimony and strong support of this measure just to
044note a lot of our public charter schools do apply for and have received funding for this program so we are deeply grateful for its continued support thank you very much thank you next to testify also to a junior president testifying for hawaii state teachers association aloha chair members of the committee laverne moore speaking on behalf of osatui junior president of the hawaii state teachers association we support this bill after school programs provide important learning and enrichment opportunities for potentially thousands of our k-12 students across the island 72 percent of parents surveyed in hawaii agree that after-school programs help working parents to keep their job the intermediate years are important for reversing high school dropout rates and ensuring students remain engaged in their education and community the reach program meets this need to provide this up
045for appropriation to match federal dollars to fund the reach program in hawaii the hawaii state teachers association asked your committee to support this bill mahalo thank you laverne [Music] next to testify dean nathan morata college of education please good afternoon cher kadani vice chair kim and members of the committee nathan morata dean college of education here at the university of hawaii manoa we stand in support of our written testimony and i'm available for any questions thank you thank you and this testimony is also from michael bruno provost of uh manoa next to testify paula adams executive director hawaii after school alliance chiara kidani vice chair mercado kim members of the committee my name is taula adams with the hawaii after school alliance since the beginning of the pandemic we have been hosting community meetings with
046after-school programs to share resources talk stories and support them as much as we can in those calls stories have been told like the one from a middle school in the big island where half of the kids choose to stay for the after school programs the parents are so thankful for the opportunity to have their kids engaged in enrichment activities explore their passions and learn and fun in a fun and safe environment on another program in waimanalo where the kids learn math through cooking or a program in waialua where students are fully engaged in stem for all these reasons i'm happy to see this bill supporting after school programs for the last years and a half i've been receiving phone calls from parents saying that they need an after-school program for their children if if this
047field passes we'll have more programs for our children to learn be safe and engage thanks for this opportunity to testify thank you paula next to testify maria glidden individual maria there please not present chair thank you that concludes the oral testimony we had 23 testimonies all in support members questions of the testifiers if not do we need help we have a question okay senator kim let's see who's here i guess some superintendents uh so currently the um after school program the funding what where what's the funding like or is that the is that the obstacle is getting getting people to hire people and getting resources as far as bodies to get the program up and to where it was before aloha senator kim this is kara tanimura um yes so the current funding is just
048under 600 000 that's what we received this past school year so an increase to 6 million is quite a bit and yes the challenge has been getting personnel so i guess i'm just wondering from the six the six hundred thousand to six million um why the big gap in that and and again is it the funding or is it getting the personnel i believe it's the personnel so general right now the reach funds that we receive in the 600 000 is about is from general funds and is it and it funds all of the pro it's been adequate in funding all of the programs it's just for the middle school grades so just three grades um it has been adequate but um we believe the intent of the bill is to match the 21st century
049funds that's why it went from it went to six million okay and 21st century excuse me 21st century is k to 12. so yes okay and so even though the funding might be there we may have problems just being able to yes okay thank you very much thank you members further questions do you want to vote so members the um recommendation of the chair will be pass out with amendment senate bill 2333 which authorizes supplemental category funding for remote schools senate bill 2333 to pass with amendments chair votes i oh i'm sorry the amendments are to expand the definitions to include the additional schools mentioned in the department of education testimony which is kaunapakai kilohana mauna loa elementary and molokai middle school there's also technical and non-substantive amendments questions if not senebil 2333 to pass
050with amendments chair votes i share vote sign senate bill two three three three pass with amendments uh let's see i'm gonna call roll just to see who's here i special bonsai senator de la cruz and senator della cruz on senate bill two three three three with amendments okay excuse me four members present all voting eye one number excuse recommendations adopted thank you members moving on to the final bill sent bill 2564 relating to after-school programs recommendation of the chair is to pass with amendments amendments is to delete the appropriation amount but noting the amount in the committee report for consideration by ways and means the next committee and also to defect the date to july 1 2015. questions members senate bill 2564 to pass with amendments chair votes eye checkpoint's eye on senate bill 2564
051with amendments any members present voting in opposition any members voting [Music] with reservations hearing and do we have senator de la cruz online no so four members present or voting i one number excuse recommendation is adopted thank you members that concludes the meeting from the committee of education