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EDU-AEN, EDU-HWN, EDU-HRE, EDU, EDU Public Hearing 3-19-2021 3pm, 3:10pm, 3:15pm, 3:20pm, 3:21pm

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YouTube / Hawai'i State Senate
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2021-03-20
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Honolulu County, HI
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5,988 words · about 34 min
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2026-05-22

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001good afternoon and welcome to the joint committees on education and committee on agriculture and environment this meeting including the audio and video of remote participants is being streamed live on youtube you will find links to viewing options for all senate meetings on the live and on-demand video page of the legislature's website this zoom meeting and you too youtube live stream event will include the 3 o'clock pm joint agenda for the committee on education and the committee on agriculture and environment the 310 joint agenda for the committee on education and the committee on hawaiian affairs the 315 joint agenda for the committee on education and the committee on higher education and the 320 and 321 pm agendas for the committee on education in the unlikely event that we have to abruptly end this hearing due to

002major technical difficulties the committee will reconvene to discuss any outstanding business on monday march 22 and a public notice will be posted on the legislature's website i'd like to take this time to remind our testifiers that due to time restrictions on our hearings we will be limiting testimony to one minute per testifier per bill for the people participating remotely all testifier audio will be muted and video disabled until shortly before it is your turn to testify when i call your name staff will unmute you and your time will begin after your one minute is completed staff will mute you so that we can move this hearing along in an orderly and efficient manner thank you so our three o'clock agenda jointly with comedian agriculture and environment we have one item house bill 767 hd2 relating

003to the farm school program moves the hawaii farm to school program from the department of agriculture to the department of education establishes a programmatic goal for the department of education that that at least 30 percent of food served in public schools shall consist of locally sourced products by 2030 creates an annual reporting requirement and to testify we have randy tanaka department of education randy are you there hello sir kidani members of the committee chair gabbard thank you very much for your time we have submitted testimony and willing to answer questions that you may have we continue to dedicate ourselves to using more locally produced products for our students and thank you for this opportunity you next to testify phyllis shimabukuro kaiser hawaii department of agriculture i'm sorry board of agriculture phyllis are you there good

004afternoon cheers kidani and gabrielle morrison on behalf of the department of agriculture uh we will stand on our testimony noting strong support for the pharmaceutical program and offering some comments thank you thank you more micah munipatta testifying for ulupono initiative good afternoon jared kidani chair gabbard members of the committees michael munica here on behalf of the uberpony initiative we'll stand on our written testimony and strong support of this measure there are some recommended amendments just to tighten up some of the gold language we hope that you will consider making those amendments and we do appreciate the chairs looking to streamline some of these bills i know that there's been quite a bit of support from this legislature to to move on farm to school and we appreciate any consideration of bringing some of these bills

005into play and that one in particular we're looking into is potential regional preference as far as farm to school movement going forward thank you very much cheers thank you micah next to testify brian miyamoto for hawaii farm bureau good afternoon chairs kidani and gabbard vice chairs kim minnichiar and members of the committee's brand new motor here on behalf of the hawaii farm bureau we'll stand on our written testimony and support thank you thank you brian next to testify laidy bernal from hawaii farm to school hui laity aloha maika ko laidy bernal a local armed louis coordinator also representing hawaii public health institute and the obesity prevention task force collectively over 60 organizations across the islands we stand on our written testimony and support with the recommended amendment to maintain a program within the hawaii department

006of agriculture as well as the hawaii department of education thank you very much for your support of pharmacy school thank you ladies next to testify john garibaldi for local food coalition hello chairs vice chairs and members of the committee john garbaldi with the local food coalition we'll stand on a written testimony on strong support and also want to voice our support for gulu kona's amendment requesting a geographic uh preference thank you very much thank you john that concludes the oral testimony we have a number of written testimonies members and um sure gabbard do you guys have any questions for our testifiers yes chair uh i have a question for ulu pono good afternoon yeah micah you mentioned in your one of the amendments was add as measured by the percent of the total cost of

007food could you just elaborate on that please yes chair um this is just looking to i guess solidify some of the language around the goal we feel that if it's sort of left open-ended there's going to be interpretations that may not get to where farm to school is trying to get by establishing it as an overall percent of total food costs you are addressing the entire meal itself and price are purchases that are made for food itself as opposed to concentrating on one particular category whether it's like the main dish or the side vegetables or the fresh side when you do it a percent like that you actually only encompass a smaller percent of the total meal so we're looking at you know making the biggest impact here and you know by our calculations with

008some of the the pilots that have been done on kohala mililani and the island of kauai we do feel like the 30 can be attained thank you mike thank you chair thank you members any questions okay if there are no further questions called recess welcome back to the joint committee on education and committee on agriculture and environment and we are hearing house bill 767 hd2 the committees have discussed this and the recommendation of the chair will be to pass house bill 767 hd2 with amendments to remove on page 2 line 14 the words and other institutions as this program position will just be for farm to school we'll also note in the committee report that in order to achieve the goal of 30 the doe should employ multiple strategies such as geographic preferences in procurement

009inclusion of food hubs and other localized strategies members questions if not chair boats eye chair votes eye on house bill 767 house draft two senate draft we're going to amend it to a senate draft uh chair votes i vice chair vote side center de la cruz is excused senator canooha hi senator favela madam chair with five members one being excuse your recommendations adopted thank you this concludes this hearing you mean you have an opinion okay go ahead and share gabbard thank you chair okay uh folks same recommendation for aen any discussion i'll go ahead and take the vote on chair boat's eye vice chairman shihara is excused senator ocasio hi senator rhodes all right senator fidella all right that is that everybody yeah okay uh the measure passes thank you members thank you this concludes

010this hearing okay sorry thank you and welcome this is the comedian education and committee on hawaiian affairs for joint committee meeting to hear house bill 753 hd1 relating to school impact fees to testify we have randy tanaka department of education randy please vice chair kim aloha we stand by the testimony we have submitted and stand by to answer any questions if you have aloha thank you randy we have william ayla jr testifying for department of hawaiian homelands mr eyes uh first of all thank you cherokee for scheduling this bill we stand in strong support in this bill and believe that it will it highlights the fact that the department already houses many charter schools and [Music] is contributing to the education of the significant savings now can be applied to the development of additional lots

011for awards to get beneficiaries thank you very much for consideration thank you mr isla members of education committee are there any questions for these testifiers i have a question senator vice chair kim mr aila what is what how much are these uh fees that you expect to save i know it might be variables but it will likely be in the several millions of dollars because and it depends on where um development occurs but one example is there's a hundred and sixty lots in homestead on maui the school impact fee of 5 373 per lot times 161 lots is 800 600 865 000 um dollars and uh it's close to 900 000 just for one development okay thank you question for education who's that randy tanaka randy so wendy when you folks do these impact fees

012do you give any kind of credit for the whatever contributions they may make in the case of what um the hhl is saying senator from what i understand the way the impact fees were created was to help subsidize the building of new schools right and that's the equation is based upon either land or cash contributions to the to the cause of building the new school um that's my degree of understanding of how the the formula was created i cannot start the center oh no when i was on the console and we did these unilateral agreements and when there were impact fees for affordable housing or impact fees for schools we would look at equivalencies if you want to call it that or any other contributions that they might be making that would in fact lessen

013some of the impacts because they're they're making up for it in some way so i wasn't sure if that's something that also goes on at doe that you know taking note that whoever is building the homes if in fact they are contributing in other ways that addresses some of the issues of education educating our students in those areas that the fees could be lessened or or waived um your correct senator of recent history what i have seen is really two two factors land of cash other contributions uh other teacher housing is a discussion we're having with another developer right now has not been in recent times added to that formula but we are now asking for other other uh opportunities or assets that they may have willing to let not necessarily cash okay that's something

014i think that that discussion should take place and we should be a little more flexible as we look at these impact fees absolutely thank you thank you for the questions members chair uh do your members have questions yeah i have a question sure go ahead senator phillips oh sorry come on no no no go ahead well the only concerns that i see going forward and i understand the breakdown of the new development of maui um but in the complete region her unit her uh on how much impact he's gonna spend uh in that area by [Music] we need to get our beneficiaries of hopes but it will start to accept it in the first place so uh maybe uh for many of them others develop and expect the same expectation as saying that we're discriminating

015against uh and i'm not sure if maybe randy um if you know if there's any provisions for that going forward i'm sorry senator if you can repeat the question the question is uh if we do this bill and then we pay impact fees because we know we need to get beneficiaries on all the hawaiian vote uh developments i want to stop the other developers are asking for the same consideration going forward on their impacts senator i expect we will get that question but i think our relationship with the hhl and their objectives and their mission to provide more homes for our community especially the hawaiian community is a different perspective most of the the things that we have gotten through the impact fee has been land so this exemption really goes towards actually building the

016homes we need that dhhl has been working so hard to do going forward the deals are not all the same but i do expect and i would if i was them i would ask how come they got the deal and we we didn't get the deal but i think we need to take that on a case-by-case basis thank you i just figured i asked that now at least we have that on the right going forward knowing that without an agreement um what is the cause and why we are working foreign thank you thank you any further questions from members of hawaiian affairs excuse me yes um add a comment until i ask questions or so it's not that the department isn't contributing the department has contributed for many years in giving gratis leases to a

017numerous charter schools on dhh land so the department has been in a sense contributing to education into facilities of the doe the charter schools are part of the dod and i just wanted to make that that clear that it's not it's not it's not a free lunch we are contributing to the education of public school students through charter schools thank you for clarifying that important information follow-up i'm sure senator kim has a follow-up um again so randy wouldn't it be a lot um fair in the sense that there's a some kind of a metrics which would consider other types of contributions and how that relates because you know providing leases on land for charter schools may be more than what you're asking for the five thousand could be less right and as far as what

018kind of credits a developer would get and we want to try to i mean yes we want to make sure that there is homes for our hawaiian population but we want to make sure there's homes for everybody that lives here right so the developer any developer can claim well if i don't have to give you land i could build more houses on that land and therefore have more homes so if you know if that's going to be the argument or one of the arguments then we need to have something that is systematic applies to everybody so we don't get into a discrimination lawsuit of any kind and so i think it's imperative that d.o.e does that and that these kinds of exceptions are not actually put into this measure but you folks have it and

019that they can receive a credit and they might receive more of a credit that could be applied to another parcel because that's how we do it in the city so um you are absolutely correct and my predecessors had begun that thought but didn't formalize it we are in the process of formalizing and creating a metric so we're all on the same page when when this occurs and there will be a continuum of development especially in the kapolei air going forward so our our plan by design will be to give those elements uh some weighting uh towards how the how the impact fee is measured currently the it's primarily in terms of land or cash but we will work on that absolutely okay that's just troubling that is not part of your testimony and this is

020not something that you know you're informing us and taking a stronger active lead on it so that would prevent these kinds of legislation that will continually um exempt one one group of people versus another so um understood understood point well taken thank you is it uh canada casio yeah chair thank you i have a question i'm just thinking are there any other state-funded agencies that are that act as a pass-through for these impact fees senator not i think too that i just wanted to make a note that as we see more and more uh multi-generational families coming into developed housing already and i see that a lot in mililani our schools are becoming overcrowded and there's more of a need to build more buildings or uh you know double depth or buildings and that there's

021no impact fee at all coming in so it does put a big burden on on the state as well as a department of education to figure out how we can do this and and have the correct um schools amount of classrooms that we need for for our students so that is a problem also if there are no further questions and we'll go into recess welcome back to the joint committees on education and hawaiian affairs we are we have deliberated on house bill 753 hd1 relating to school impact fees the recommendation of this chair is to pass this house bill with amendments the amendment is to insert a sunset date on the exemption for dhhl properties for three years also inserting language that will expand the eligible uses of school impact fees similar to what is

022found in part two of senate bill 468 members questions if not chair votes eye chair votes eye on house bill 753 with amendments vice chair was both with reservations senator de la cruz please excuse senator canujo aye senator favela senator fabella you're unmute can hear me now yes yeah reservations okay reservation marine chair four members president uh your recommendations adopted thank you thank you juan affair same recommendation um vice chair kyo and kaloli are able to take the vote i was i don't know obviously maybe he's not present i can take the vote okay so um he's there miley i see him oh okay okay vice chair no colonial take the boat please can you hear me yeah okay yes yes okay hb753hd1 passing with the men miss shimon bokoro aye vice president senator castillo

023aye ihara is excused senator favela care preservation adopted thank you very much thank you many things adjourned thank you for joining us this is the joint committee on education and committee on higher education we are here to hear senate concurrent resolution nine and senate resolution 8 convening a task force to address implementation of hawaii state law corollary to title ix in light of recent changes to federal title ix regulations to testify beth shimmer shimmel fenning for d.o.e and otm admin my name is beth schimel fennig i'm the director for civil rights compliance branch of the office of talent management i'm here testifying behalf of dr christina kishimoto thank you for this opportunity we stand on our written testimony and support thank you testifying next is jennifer rose for the university of hawaii jennifer good afternoon

024chairs kidani and mercado kim and members of the committees um i am here on behalf of vice president govaya and okinawa we stand in support of this resolution and have provided some comments i'll be available for questions if you haven't thank you thank you next to testify yonggi overly for aauw of hawaii yankee please good afternoon teresa dhani and sir ricardo kim and members of the committee my name is yankee oberli i'm the public policy chair for aauw of hawaii we are we stand on our written testimony in strong support thank you for the opportunity thank you next to testify nora balo testifying for the everly voice every voice coalition hi madam chair not present thank you next to testify and achua individual anna doctrine chairs vice chairs and members committee my name is anna

025and i'm a student at the university party at manoa i stand by my written testimony scr9 um i just wanted to be saying that i really believe that this resolution and this task force would move forward the movement to prevent rape culture from advancing on college campuses and i think it helps us to move beyond being reactionary and instead push to upgrade many sources of sexual and gender-based violence on college campuses like uh making performances thank you we have no further testifiers we do have several written testimony also members are there any questions for our testifiers and senator kim you have any questions okay we are since there are no questions we are going to move into the next item on the agenda which is uh joint again with higher education and education and for

026those of you just joining in the meet this meeting including the audio and visual video of remote participants is being streamed on live and youtube and uh in the event that we are abruptly interrupted due to technical difficulties the committee will reconvene to discuss any outstanding business on tuesday march 23 at 3 pm and a public notice will be posted on the legislature's website scr 89 this is urging the university of hawaii systems and department of education to include training courses and curriculum related to the mechanics repair and maintenance of electrical vehicles hydrogen vehicles and other alternative fuel vehicles in their programs um is just an scr we don't have an sr on this okay just the sdi first to testify scott glenn from the hawaii state energy office in support aloha this is kirsten

027baumgardt turner i'm here for scott glenn in the white state energy office thank you kirsten please proceed and members of cheers committee the hawaii state energy office supports this resolution we acknowledge that programs to prepare and train the workforce to participate in the growing alternative fuels vehicles sector are needed to support the continued successful adoption and operation of these new technologies and we acknowledge the work that the university of hawaii is doing and feel that this is supportive of their continuing efforts in that direction so we appreciate the opportunity to testify mahalo thank you kristen uh erica lacro from the university of hawaii community colleges comments june chi from hawaiian electric chairs vice chairs and committee members my name is jean chi with hawaiian electric i would stand on our written testimony in support of

028this resolution and also provide suggested ambitions for consideration to also include courses curriculum and training for electric vehicle supply equipment or ev charging stations in addition to electric vehicle maintenance thank you for this opportunity to testify thank you very much we don't have anyone else here in on zoom to testify we have written gotten written testimony from about nine other individuals all in support uh any questions members of hre or education committee any questions no hearing not did you want to go into breakup or just go into decision making i don't have any questions so you can go into decisions okay well go into decision making you want to start off with um the first one scr9 and sr8 oh okay so for scr9 and sr8 the recommendation of the chair is to patent the

029chair of education it's the past with amendments inserting the amendments to match abyss to the amendments made in hcr 12 hd one okay cr8 and rcr9 yeah so scr8 and sc sr8 and scr9 it's friday i'm sorry toss it amendments to pass with amendments okay chair votes i okay we're gonna take the two resolutions together sr-8 srs to pass with amendments the chair is voting i the vice chair will be voting i senator de la cruz aye senator kanuha aye and senator i'm senator favela it's a friday afternoon guys with five members all present all voting and affirmative your recommendation for both resolutions is adopted okay for these uh scr 89 urgent i'm sorry oh sorry okay so higher ed you got it i have it okay you take it that's why we don't usually

030have hearings in the afternoon you guys are acting like too much too many people within the uh and d.o.e [Laughter] no comment okay okay so some recommendation for the committee on higher education to pass with amendments chair votes eye chair votes i vice chair votes i senator agueron excuse senator wakai excuse senator favela misha is adopted madam chair thank you very much so going on to now scr 89 uh the recommendation is to pass as is that was simple right here's the yes i have okay you guys wait oh that's right okay so recommendation for scr 89 recommendation is to pass unamended chair votes i haven't shared you both sides yes vice chair votes aye senator al goran excuse senator wakai excuse senator favela measure the doctor okay now it's your turn oh so for

031the committee in education same resolution chair bosai jeff mozar on scr 89 vice chair any members on the higher education committee uh voting with reservations any member voting negative if not all members president voting i your recommendations adopted thank you and that concludes this hearing have one more right thank you for joining us this is a 3 20 p.m hearing on committee on education 3 20 p.m friday march 19th in room 229 to hear house bill 613 relating to education makes an emergency appropriation for fiscal year 2021 for elementary and secondary school emergency relief fund esser funds monies received by the state from the cares act to testify brian hallett from the department of education brian please hi good afternoon cheridani vice chair kim the department offers comments on this measure we have them in

032writing and we stand by if there are any questions thank you next to testify mitsy higa hawaii state teachers association hi aloha chair kidani um speaking for corey rosalie hawaii state teachers association we stand in strong support as you know there has been much delayed confusion from the department of education regarding the fact the spending of carers act ser funding and even now going into the american rescue act which we don't know how it's going to be spent yet thus we support this measure because it will solidify retaining our teachers which is the most important thing that our students need along with the supports within the school and our district level who support our special ed students we need all of these things and we need to retain them first as that is what is

033best for to focus on studying student learning and achievement thank you thank you next to testify shari nakamura testifying for hey coalition yes aloha fudani vice chairman kim and members of the committee sharing here from coalition i would like to stand on our written testimony in support of hb613ht2 and offer a suggested amendment for your consideration thank you for this opportunity to testify thank you members that concludes the oral testimony we do have several written testimonies members are their questions regarding to house bill 613 if not uh recess i met him chair we were now into the breakout room is the only thank you welcome back to the committee on education friday march 19th 320 conference room the chair is recommending that we pass house bills 613 hd2 with amendments we are adding to page

0344 lines 1516 to read as follows and who are employed at the school level in the classroom we're adding the language in the classroom and we're also defecting the date to july 1st 2051 members questions if not chair votes eye chair votes eye on house bill 613 passed with amendments all members on the hre committee anyone voting in the negative anyone voting with reservations hearing none eu committee i'm sorry your committee did you say did i say higher education committee five members all present voting and affirmative your recommendations adopted thank you that concludes this hearing we have thank you for joining us on the committee on education friday march 19 3 21 pm agenda conference room 229 first on the agenda is scr 100 and sr 77 requesting the department of education to provide free

035menstrual products to students on all hawaii public school campuses to testify heidi armstrong department of education hi good afternoon sharoki dani and vice chair kim heidi armstrong from the department of education testifying on behalf of superintendent kishimoto the department stands on its testimony for scr 100 the intent of this resolution would absolutely support our students however to implement this proposal additional funding would be required we did a preliminary estimate for year one costs which include the dispensers receptacles and supplies and the estimated total for this would be 1.3 million dollars the recurring annual costs to provide free menstrual products is estimated at about eight hundred and fifty three thousand dollars per year the cost for replacing these pads every year was derived by using the total number of girls in grades 5 through 12 which

036is 52 643 in all schools this includes the 5 902 girls in the charter schools and the 46 741 girls in grades five to 12 in our doe in our doe schools estimating that they would use two pads per day five days a month ten days or ten months a year and estimating the cost of the pad at 14 cents a pad that gave us our total of 853 for 853 000 for recurring costs the department supports this effort and recognizes that logistics need to be addressed but an appropriation would be necessary to make this a reality and i thank you for this opportunity to testify thank you assistant superintendent armstrong next we have courtney hamakawa department of education hi madam chair she's not president thank you next laverne moore testifying for hsta hello chairperson

037speaking on behalf of corey rosenly president of the hawaii state teachers association we strongly support the resolution it will move toward providing free feminine hygiene products in our secondary schools what is happening is many of our students stay home because they cannot afford the sanitary pads what this does is it brings gaps in their education in order to better service our students we need to provide the products they need in order to be successful in school the hsta strongly supports this resolution thank you for the opportunity to testify thank you laverne next we have nicole's liverens for hawaii health and harm reduction center hi madam chairs he's not present thank you next we have nikki and me for my movement hawaii vice chair kim and committee members my sisters and i started mighty movement hawaii

038to end period poverty in the state we strongly support the resolutions and stand by our testimony we're a native hawaiian and we have seen and experienced firsthand the struggles that many locals face when i was 12 growing up on hawaiian homelands in waimanalo our mom died leaving behind five children my youngest sister ended up in foster care and we lost touch it breaks my heart to know that she was without our mom or us and she would not have a safety net in the family she lived with or the schools that she went to especially when it came to period care because of it she missed school and her health and well-being suffered we're finding out through our work it's still happening today that's why we stand behind every menstruator because no one deserves to

039feel any less or suffer unnecessarily because of their biology or family situation mahalo for all the work you do and thank you again thank you next to testify michelle pandry an individual hi madam chair president thank you jamie kapana hi thank you my name is jamie and i support sci 100 because i believe that period products should be free in all public schools students shouldn't have to worry about the shame of not being able to afford a basic necessity i know that you don't know me or my story but growing up i had an unstable housing situation which made it difficult to get something so basic menstrual products none of my schools that had it and i couldn't ask anyone we need to end the stigma and take care of our students how can we

040do this by offering these products to students for free how amazing would it have been for schools to provide these products to students without this shame so they feel safe seen and understood thank you for taking the time to hear my testimony thank you jamie next sarah miliana laughing aloha chair i'm going to yield my testimony to my elima students go ahead and get it started alana nice and loud i'm mute good lima afternoon active school this is very important to me because children deserve equal education but children and teens miss days at school because their families cannot afford these necessities lastly i want to thank senator kirwani for meeting with us on march 5th to talk about the issue thank you ashanti hello my name is student of the lima intermediate first i would

041like to thank representative caruso for helping us for their first year first first bill last year and for helping with the resolution today this particular concept today is important to me because having emotional products both close by because of your people without their period unexpectedly thank you thank you go ahead rizzell nice and loud hello hello i am a seventh grader from elima intermediate activist club pets should be a school supply because band-aids and pencils are like pads and are similar to each other and i don't think that menstrual products are less useful than band-aids and pets thank you rizz go ahead bryce lee good afternoon my name is bryce lee rio i am in seventh grade from the luma intermediate and i think men and boys should not be scared or avoid periods because

042it did not happen to them and also i would like to say santa claus for helping us with sb 966 although it didn't pass thank you bryce lee finish us go ahead elia hello my name is i am in 8th grade thank you chair for having us providing free period supplies in schools will fight stigma no one should be afraid of periods it's natural mahala for your time thank you chair thank you students aloha members that is the end of our oral testimony and we have at least 50 other written testimonies all in support of this measure um let's see i have a question for um assistant superintendent heidi armstrong fees my senator hi heidi you noted that it would cost 1.3 million the first year because you need dispensers and i'm assuming you're going

043to put these dispensers in restrooms yes and so for this for that estimate um we didn't include every single girl or gender gender neutral restroom in grades 5 through 12. what we did is we averaged it that there would be rest we calculated on 10 restrooms in each of our 33 high schools five restrooms in each of our 45 middle schools intermediate schools and then one restroom in our elementary school being that usually if it's a fifth grade or a sixth grade usually there's a girls restroom on that wing it wouldn't be necessary in all of the restrooms in the school so that doesn't cover all of the restrooms but just the numbers that i shared heidi i know in the past that some of the schools may have had these dispensers and in time

044they're either broken or they're not filled etc so i'm not really sure that there's a need for dispensers and why they couldn't be just left at the health room or maybe every building could have a teacher who had a supply etc so i'm i'm you know not sure about the cost of that and then we said 855 000 per year thereafter anyway i i would rethink the the dispenser thing and the other thing is for title one schools is this something that the title one monies could be spent on we know that i checked with the mckinney-vento funding and mckinney-vento funding for our students in unstable housing can be used to help purchase these products for those students our title one funds in addition right now as we look at our title one budgets and

045allocations they're they're expended they're they're spent on the academics and the tutoring and the supports for that so they haven't that this cost hasn't been included in that and with the funding now that funding has been exhausted from the academic and the social arena i i want to go back to to the dispensers i agree dispensers um we put the dispensers in because of what we've heard from the girls that privacy is very important and so dispensers in a restroom do allow for that privacy they don't have to walk to the health room or another location to get their pad however that is an option if the whole ideal situation cannot you know be funded there are logistics involved in this especially with dispensers in a restroom and if they're dispensing free products the management

046of that as well as possibly one taking more than what is necessary for their needs at that moment could be an issue as well i'm assuming since many teachers and the hst supported this resolution that teachers would not be um would be willing to also dispense from their classrooms when you know for for needed uh menstrual products so again i'm not really sure about the dispenser and i think we should rethink that and and at least try uh maybe with the health room and the teachers uh for now or at least one or two teachers per building would be my suggestion also i think that some of the state agencies could help whether it's department of health or department of human services because they do have these kinds of agencies that have some of these

047products for other programs so if you could also look into that members are there any other questions i wanted to follow up madam chair thank you so heidi um so you didn't look at what the cost might be without the dispensers and using uh some other way other method of providing the needed supplies no no we did that was the second number that i gave the 853 that cost was based on the 56 or 52 643 girls that we have in grades five through 12 with the two pads per day five days right but that's but that's with the dispensers though right now though right the 1.3 million was the initial start-up cost dispensers were part of the equation if they're not and the recurring cost just for the pads every year would be estimated

048at 853 000 and that could always be adjusted after the first year when we actually know okay what the usage is so the 1.3 million didn't really account for the breakdown of these of the the spencers the people it would take to constantly replenish um and all of that the 1.3 million included the dispensers the receptacles and the um the the pads for the right but it's got to be maintained and it's got to be repaired and students and not just students anybody i mean we've seen these in in public restrooms where you put in a quarter or whatever or some of them are free like if you travel on airlines you know some of them have free ones but people break them anywhere right so um you know that's that's an issue and um

049so the cost to maintain it and keep it working and then keeping it keeping it full or you know i know in a situation where even when you pay it it runs out and when you need it the most you can't get it because um somebody didn't fill it up so these are all the things that i hope that doe or i'm sorry the schools would look at as to how logistical it would work because this is a lot of money and if the legislature don't provide it and you are required to do it where would it come out of that is an unanswered question at this time i do know that the support that we can that is available it is for a limited number of students would be our students who qualify under

050mckinney-vento because providing pads for those students who need that is an allowable excuse allowable use for that funding okay and then you know to say that they're only allowed uh two two a day um some women and some girls may need more some may be i don't know take it into their families so i mean you know it's a matter of how do you manage it as well because you know again that's cost coming out from somewhere and don't get me wrong i support this measure especially as a woman support it but there's all these other logistics and costs and you know how do you manage it correct thank you members further questions on this measure if not let's move on to senate concurrent resolution 203 and senate resolution 168 urging the board of education

051to form a special committee or permitted interaction group to monitor an account for how the department of education is spending its federal relief funds and to testify laverne moore hsta oh a bird board okay speaking of oh sugars here we go okay speaking on behalf of kari rosenlin president of the hawaii state teachers association we strongly support this resolution it will make it oh it will make it clear on how the doe is truly spending the federal funds thank you for the opportunity to testify thank you laverne next fairy nakamura hey a coalition assalamualaikum kim and members of the committee sharing nakamura director of a coalition we are testifying in support of sar 203 and 0168 and we support the boe forming a permitted interaction group to monitor and account for how the doe is

052spending as federal relief funds and while the boe has a finance and infrastructure committee which looks at policies regarding financial operations we feel that an investigative group made up of the chair and committee chairs would be appropriate since the federal monies can be used broadly across the system we would like the we would like to encourage that the vue create a strategic and systematic guidance for these funds particularly because they are one-time funds that we want to use effectively we provide some suggestions in our written testimonies like creating a near mid and long-term framework for the usage of funds also if the bue should need additional staff to conduct strategic analysis perhaps you could consider using some of the federal funds for this purpose thank you for this opportunity to testify thank you sherry members

053questions if not moving on to the next measure senate concurrent resolution 249 and senate resolution 208 requesting the board of education to authorize an e-sports program for public high schools in the states let's see she testify no one on the list to testify all right um do we need to go into okay i think we're we're ready to uh decision make members the chair is recommending that we pass out senate concurrent resolution 100 and senate resolution 77 requesting the department of education to provide three menstrual products to students of all hawaii public school campuses um i think in the committee report um so we're going to pass as is but in the committee report i think we're going to note that we'd like to recommend that we start right away that the department of education

054dispense with dispensers for now and try it using the health room and maybe female teachers in the schools and also to consider using federal funds for the title 1 schools as well as seek advice from other state agencies who may already be providing these products through different programs again recommendation is to pass as is chair votes eye okay chair votes eye on senate resolution 77 and senate concurrent resolution 100 to pass as is all members are still president any members voting with reservations any members voting no all five members voting affirmative recommendations adopted thank you recommendation for senate concurrent resolution 203 and senate resolution 168 urging the board of education to form a special committee or permitted interaction group to monitor account for how the department of education is spending its federal funds recommendation is

055to pass as is and we'll note in the committee report the board should also consider utilizing the committee or permitted interaction group to create short medium and long-term strategic plans for the use of federal relief funds to ensure that the doe maximizes the use of these funds again chair votes eye chair votes eye on senate concurrent resolution 203 and senate resolution 168 pass as is any members voting with reservation any members voting no hearing none all five members and the affirmative recommendations adopted thank you and for the final item senate concurrent resolution 249 and senate resolution 208 requesting the board of education to authorize an e-sports program for public high schools in the state recommendation of the chair is to pass as is chair votes eye jeffords i'm sending concurrent resolution 249 and senate resolution

056208 any members voting with reservations any members voting no hearing none all five members in affirmative recommendations adopted thank you very much members have a great weekend aloha friday everybody you

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