001good afternoon thank you for joining us this is a joint hearing of the committees on education and on human services this is friday february 12 3 o'clock p.m we're in conference room 229 uh we are here to deliberate on senate bill 1347 relating to sex trafficking prevention requires the department of education to offer training for teachers educational officers and school-based behavioral health specialist on sex trafficking prevention and response [Music] we have only one testifier for oral testimony it's heidi i'm armstrong assistant superintendent department of education heidi please hi good afternoon cher kidani and vice chairs um kim and ihara i'm heidi armstrong in the department of education representing superintendent christina kishimoto the department stands on its written testimony absolutely supporting the intent of senate bill 1347 we have our original comments in our testimony and
002the department remains very committed to getting this training to all of our secondary schools so thank you very much thank you that's the um only oral testimony we have members questions and we have several other written testimony for your information if there is no question then we are going to recess to deliberate on this bill recess thank you we are reconvening the committees on education and human services and deliberating senate bill 1347 relating to sex trafficking prevention recommendation of the chair of education is to pass as is members of education questions if not chair votes eye share for chair of human services saying um recommendation vice chair senator ihara for the vote we're voting on for human services committee members we're voting on senate bill 1347 to pass unamended uh cheers uh san bernardino ventura
003aye vice chair votes i senator cassio aye senator misa lucha aye senator favela hi the chair of the recommendation is adopted thank you this adjourns this committee meeting calling the committee to of education to order this is friday february 12th the 305 pm agenda in conference room 229 to decision make uh on senate bill 843 relating to career and technical education recommendation of the chair is to defer indefinitely members questions if not this item is referred and the meeting is adjourned [Music] calling to order the committees on education and committee and government operations february 12 310 in conference room two to nine this meeting including the audio and video of remote participants is being streamed live on youtube you will find links to viewing options for all senate meetings on the live and on demand
004video page of the legislature's website this zoom meeting and youtube live stream event will include the 310 joint agenda for the committee on education and the committee on government operations in the unlikely event that we have to abruptly end this hearing due to major technical difficulties the committee will reconvene to discuss any outstanding business on wednesday february 17th at 3 o'clock p.m and a public notice will be posted on the legislature's website i'd like to take this time to remind our testifiers that due to time restrictions on our hearings we will be limiting testimony to one minute per testifier per bill for the people participating remotely all testifier audio will be muted and video disabled until shortly before it's your turn to testify when i call your name staff will unmute you and your time
005will begin after your minute is completed staff will mute you so that we can move this hearing along in in an orderly and efficient manner to begin senate bill 118 relating to the compact for education amend section 311-2 hawaii revised statutes to remove the governor from the education commission of the states and add a fourth member appointed by the governor and we have no one to testify on this measure members questions [Music] okay if not [Music] moving on senate bill 465 relating to the department of education requires the auditor to perform an annual operational audit of the academic and financial plans of the department of education requires the department of education to contract with a third party consultant that specializes in school finance to study the adequacy of education funding in hawaii appropriates funds to
006testify brian hallett assistant the superintendent department of education please brian hi good afternoon sharokina chair muay wacky uh committee members brian hallett the uecfo testifying on behalf of superintendent kishimoto the department has comments on this bill and i'll just summarize them very briefly um in regards to the audit um just commenting a statutory requirement for an annual audit in you know it's i think that's fairly rare uh and it may have diminishing returns over time uh and our con suggestion may be to consider uh we don't have a a problem with an audit an audit would be can be constructive and helpful for us um it just may be better handled through a resolution for for a one-time audit and we go from there uh in regards to the adequacy study we very much appreciate
007that and we'll just point out that's something that our committee on weights has been recommending um it's something that that could be pursued to help with the work that they engage in so thank you thank you for the opportunity to testify thank you members questions if not next testifier shari nakamura for hey coalition aloha chairs kidani and moriwaki vice chairs kim and de la cruz and committee members my name is sherry nakamura director of hai coalition we're testifying in support of sb 465 we like the first part of the bill the academic and financial plan together for a school is its playbook on how it will utilize its resources to make the greatest impact on students we know the school's process for creating and monitoring the two plans and we have highlighted this in our
008written testimony what we don't know is where there might be a system breakdown in the process an operational audit could help identify these disconnects and if we know specifically about these disconnects then we can be more strategic on allocating resources to address them and provide the best support for schools in addition we think this bill goes well with sb 807 on academic and financial reporting which tries to give more structure and simplicity to the academic plan we believe that these two measures can help education stakeholders understand how best to help our students and our system thank you for this opportunity to testify thank you sherry members questions if not next testifier susan picola davis susan please is susan there [Music] hi senator i think she's experiencing technical difficulties on her end [Music] susan are you
009there if not members susan is testifying in support of this measure as an individual [Music] that is all the oral testimony we have moving on to next item [Music] senate bill 466 relating to a school facilities agency amends act 72 session laws of hawaii 2020 to require that the school facilities agency comp file complies with the hawaii public procurement code authorizes a school facility agency to have additional powers and duties specifies additional uses for the school facilities special fund provides the executive director of the school facilities agency with authority relating to capital improvement projects for the school facilities agency to testify randall tanaka assistant superintendent department of education randy please hello kidani jeremiah vice chair kim vice chair de la cruz happy aloha friday we stand by our testimony and continue to appreciate your support
010and help i'm willing to take any questions that you may have aloha what is just comments thank you so senators questions are you uh is the border is the oe in favor of this or it says comments so you're standing on what are comments of improvement projects assigned to the school of facility agencies it's more of a the way we saw it as a clarification of the bill from last year do you see this bill costing any more money um i don't know senator because on page six lines 19 through 21 it says you use the department of human rights human resources development to recruit hire retain exempt employees architects engineers existing civil service positions and other technical positions for the development planning and construction related to capital improvement projects in that regard yes there
011is cost but some of that cost is going to be transferred out of the doe as we currently provide that service from the development standpoint okay i'll reserve some of my questions till later thank you members further questions thank you randy next testifier bonnie kahakui acting administrator state procurement office good afternoon chairs vice chairs members of the community committee uh bonnie colloquy for the state recruitment office we stand american testimony in support and support thank you members questions next to testify ed sniffen deputy director department of transportation ed please hi senator they're not president thank you this testimony is in support that's all the oral testimony we have members further questions uh i do senator kim so i guess it's uh randy doe so randy the bill also asked that you folks be able to
012appoint your own attorneys this is for the sfa not for us we use the attorney general's office we have a deputy it's taking power away from people and putting it into the facility i'm sorry to say that against taking powers away from doe facilities and putting it into the school facilities authority right so there would be like a hcda or but then so it's not doe it's the authority which we don't have anything yet really i know should be on because he was he's supposed to be the point person for the school facilities authorities i'm not sure what he's not on well and that's why i have some questions and concerns as far as what's the overall cost implications going to be how is it going to be managed and then you know i've seen
013these attorneys at uh start out with one or two and then grow into a huge bureaucracy uh similar to you know architects engineers and so forth and then they end up hiring consultants so i just want to make sure we don't fall into that dark hole again so i'm not sure who can answer any of this can we defer this until we have people to respond um yeah let's move on for now that's actually is the last one that was the last of this agenda okay so we're going into recess reconvening the joint session of committee on education committee and government operations the recommendation of the chair of education is to pass out senate bill 118 with amendments the amendments would be to instead of replacing the governor's seat to replace it with an employee
014and appointed seat the who will be the executive director of the charter school commission also with technical and non-substantive amendments members questions if not chair votes eye chair votes eye on senate bill 1118 is there any of the five members president voting in reservations anyone voting no if not five members president of voting i recommendations adopted chair recommendation okay thank you recommendation adopted for senate bill 465 recommendation of the chair of education is to pass with amendments deleting the annual reporting requirement as recommended by the auditor's office providing additional clarification in the committee report as to the specific areas of the academic and financial plans that the auditor should look at and also requiring the department of education to contract with the third party consultant that specializes in school finance to study study the adequacy
015of education funding in hawaii striking that members questions if not senate bill 465 with amendments chair votes eye chair vote sai any member voting with reservations any member voting no hearing none five members president voting i recommendations adopted madam chair thank you and for our final i'm sorry i forget same recommendation for gbl committee uh shareholders okay recommendation password amendments uh with four members president any objections any reservations recommendation adopted nomi now for a final senate bill relating to the school facilities agency the recommendation the chair of education is to pass with amendments pushing back the report date on page 15 section 10 to 20 days prior to the convening of the regular session of 2022 also to strike out section 15 on page six and also there are technical and non-substantive amendments members questions
016if not chair votes are chair votes eye on senate bill four six six any member voting no any member voting with reservations hearing none all five members voting affirmative your recommendations adopted okay so recommendation is to pass with amendments with four members present any reservation objections recommendation adopted thank you um for the first bill i may have said senate bill one one eight and i met senate bill 1118 relating to the compact for education members so that correction and we passed that with amendments i think i repeated it this concludes the meetings a joint meeting of the committee in education and government operations