001meeting the order. Um, we're going to do our moment of silence and pledge of allegiance. So, everybody will stand and we'll have a moment. Thank you for that. We've got Aiden Bacon going to come do the pledge of allegiance for his leaders to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Appreciate that. Public input. We have two. All right. Our first one is Miss Pam Oaks from Jefferson City. Speaking about allied going. Yes, sir. Probably going to go over the three minutes. She'd be all right. Yeah. And I'm going to do my best. I'm going to I'm going to keep it real concise. I even wrote it out so I didn't didn't ramble, didn't
002do, and could stay right to the point, but I do have two important things I'd like to mention. So, I just want to be able to to do that real fast. So, um um so I am speaking about allied and the reason I like we need to keep that in our school systems. Um, a few years ago, we had a student in our building who had displayed deeply troubling behaviors. He was emotionally unstable, defiant, often aggressive. Uh, he had drawings that depicted violent, sometimes sexually inappropriate content. Um, from the start, it was clear this child was in crisis. As the year progressed, his instability intensified. He began expressing thoughts of self harm. We responded quickly, connecting him with multiple support systems, including online mental health services. um our school counselor and most critically our allied
003counselor who built a consistent trusting relationship with him. Eventually, his statement shifted from harming himself to harming others. He began describing fantasies of violence, hurting or even killing students. At first, he named no names, but the language was disturbing and carefully documented. Near the end of the year, during a session with his ally counselor, it escalated. He identified targets, our principal, three students, and myself. What happened next changed everything. The allied counselor immediately followed protocol, bringing him to the principal. Our school counselor and SRO were called in. A statement was taken. He had names. He had intent. And this time, he had a plan. He was arrested that day, just 10 years old. He was handcuffed and taken from our building in a police car. A search of his home revealed that he had a
004box of machetes underneath his bed. He had talked about guns. He had never talked about guns. He had only talked about knives. He was ready. And had it not been intercepted that day by the quick thinking of the allied counselor, the support of our school team and law enforcement swift response, our school could have faced a tragedy. That summer, as I was walking out of Walmart with my daughter, that same student approached me. And he said, as he came up to me, I notified my daughter and said, "This is the the student. Just just be alert. I'm not sure what's going to happen." And he came up and he said, "Hey, Miss Oaks, I want you to know I'm getting the help that I need and I'm doing okay." And then he told me, "I
005have a great summer." And he went on his way. That situation was handed so effectively that our principal after that began to have to go and speak sometimes at school safety seminars talking about how our plan wasn't just written, but it was executed. It was executed professionally and as it should have been. No one was harmed that day. Had that been changed, our principal would probably not have obviously been able to be still with us. Was named principal of the year this year for the year of 2025. She's able to watch her son graduate this year and attend college. She's celebrating 20 years of marriage today, but is in this building at this meeting because it's that important. Had it not happened, I wouldn't been honored enough to be the building leader to be the
006building teacher of the year and the district-wide teacher of the year. I get to watch my son open up his own business and build a home, watch my daughter become a university art professor and my grandson grow and my other son thrive. Had these things not been intercepted, I would have missed these milestones. And they are not small. And my principal would have missed them as well, if not three students who possibly could have had lost their lives. Our allied counseling services don't just support child in crisis, they prevent and preserve future lives. Then I did have a if I could be permitted, sorry about our time, if I could be permitted, I had a great grandmother asked me to share her story because she's at a function that we're having at school and she's
007not able to be here this evening. Um but she had her grandson um he is a fourth grade student at our school and he's facing significant challenges physical, emotionally, and socially. He refused to do things like brush his teeth, overwhelmed by the texture and the sensation. But even more concerning, as a fourth grader, he is unable to use the toilet or have bowel movements. He refuses to do that at school. That's something he won't do. He has requested to have a diaper. He will even delay this behavior until he gets home, puts on a diaper, and has his not grandmother, greatgrandmother, who is his primary caregiver, change his diaper. He is emotionally regulated and deeply affected, his regulation is. He experiences frequent tantrums not only development developmentally, sorry, developmentally typical for his age. He's displayed
008aggressive behaviors including hitting, throwing objects, throwing himself on the floor, and at times he expresses thoughts of self harm and suicide. His great-g grandandmother did everything she could to find help. But with long wait list of 6 to9 months and insurance limitations, there are no realistic options for her in our community. Allied counseling service enabled already embedded into our school system was her turning point. Because Ally could begin work with him immediately without weight list, without financial barriers, without the stress of traveling, without having to sign him out of school. He received the support he desperately needed. And over time, he began to make steady progress. He learned to manage basic hygiene, gained emotional regulation skills, and overall well-being has transformed. Today, he is a happy, typical fourth grade student who is thriving in the
009classroom and with his peers. His great-grandmother wanted me to express what a life-changing experience has been and what an amazing student and well- behaved little boy he is because of our allied support that is there. It not only helped him, it empowered his family and changed their lives. They also have been able to connect her to other outside resources for them to get him even further counseling beyond what he is receiving at our school. The story is not unique. Many students quietly carry the weight of emotional struggles or trauma. Alli counseling services meet them where they are at school every day. Offering timeless, consistent care, making longlasting relationships to help our students. I ask you, I implore you, that is a lot of lives that are touched in one school. Please consider extending their contract
010and keeping them on. We desperately need mental health services in our school and I thank you for allowing me to go over my time. you something I did forget to say before we got started and this doesn't pertain to the person just spoke but when you are addressing the board you're addressing all of us not just one person or that's in policy you're addressing everybody so no need like call out names or anything like that so just keep that in mind who's our next person our next person is Sarah Montgomery from speaking about ally All right. Hi again. I'm Sarah Montgomery. Um I'm a mom to two girls at White Pine School. I'm also a CDC assistant at White Pine. Um I let you all know earlier this week um about the impact Allied has
011had on my 12-year-old daughter, Adeline. Tonight, I'm going to read a letter from a fellow staff member and local foster care mother, Sharon Bernie. Hello, my name is Sharon Bernie. I am a parent and a staff member staff member of the school system. I am writing to express my opinion about allied behavioral health access being removed from the students in this county. I am sure you are aware that there is a significant number of students who need this service in our county. Students that live in abusive and neglective neglectful homes, students that have incarcerated parents, drugaddicted parents, and students with mental illness. These are just a few of the adverse childhood experiences or ACEs that our children live in. If you are not aware of the percentage of these students, then maybe a study should
012be done so that we are all aware of just how important mental health services are. I am begging you on behalf of our kids that we do not leave them in a position with lack of mental health care. Students who suffer from ACEs need to have a trusted adult in their life, someone they can talk to that is trained to help them through the challenges they face. We are living in a society that deems it imperative to offer these services at school. I understand it is hard to accept that we have such needs in our county. I know that we all want them to grow up to be happy, successful adults. As the adults responsible for them, let's make choices in favor of helping children navigate their lives by providing mental health services at school
013that they may never get otherwise. Thank you for your time, Sharon Bernie. I'd also like to say that um I want to encourage a few of you to visit our schools, speak to a teacher, speak to an assistant, sit in our class, go to lunch, talk to our students. It's clear to me just from being present at the last two meetings that some of you have no idea what our students are dealing with. You are supposed to be advocating for the students in our community. You cannot do that if you know nothing about them. Thank you. Thank you. All right, that was it. All right, so um that brings us down to the any changes or anything to the agenda before we approve it. And couple of board members have reached out and want to
014um on number two on the new business, take the mental healthou off of new business this month. I think Dawn even mentioned it at the work session. They feel like there's a little bit more need to be worked on on it. So, do we have unanimous consent to object? All right, then. And that means do you want to put that in your Well, then that means we'll have to vote here. So Paul, do you want to make a move? You said you wanted to do that. Yes, I will do that. I make a motion to remove Could you please turn your mic on? Yeah. Sorry. I make a motion to remove mental healthou from the new business on the agenda. Second. All right. So motion's been made and seconded to remove number two, mental healthou
015from the agenda tonight. Any discussion? What is the reason for it? The motion on the floor that I made in April 3rd was for the school board to work with the lawyer and the director of schools to develop anou. We were given a draft which I have no problem working off of, but I have no input in what goes on, what isn't on there along with any of the other board members that I'm aware of. And I I think that we need to be able to have that ability. It is it is it is the motion. It's on the on the floor. Why are we electing a school superintendent and trying to override his authority? I'm trying to override his authority. I made a motion that along with the director and lawyer to develop anou.
016Anything else? Yes. Um, looking at the um the minutes from I know we haven't approved them yet, but from last meeting um it even says there for school board members along with director of schools and schoolboard attorney attorney to develop anou mental health providers and I for being a part of that process. All right. Anything else? Uh, yeah. I We received theou last Monday at our work session. I really I've seen it read it a couple three times. I have some questions that I'd like to clarify. So, I think I I would be for uh putting this off uh until the next meeting or whenever until I can ask those questions to him to provide some input. All right. Anything else? Yes. Well, before start, I started last Monday. Three-hour marathon. If this MOU was
017not good enough last Monday, why didn't you change it then? You'd had it ready for this meeting. That's what a work session is for. The lawyer was there. We were there. you had it in your possession several days before the meeting so we could have worked it out then with us. That would have been the time. I don't know when when you think we're going to be together to do what you want. The director of school was there that night. The lawyer was there. We were there. Were there any changes made to that? No. No. Now uh I I don't know where to go from here except we cannot um allow or hire or whatever the correct word be uh mental health provider until we have anou. I agree with we need one. I thought
018we had one because we walked away from that meeting a week ago a week ago. Monday and nobody objected to it. I did not remember hearing anybody say we needed to get together and work on this. We were there. So, this is just putting off something that uh the public wants us as a school board to take care of. That's our job. They're very concerned about themselves and the students. So what kind of major changes I mean that that lawyer should know what he's doing and comprising and putting together a legal document and I think he worked off of that documents you can correct me on that other documents from other schools he looked at the trend so I say we had our chance on Monday to make any changes to this the director was
019there the attorney was there. We were all there and nothing was done. I'm done. All right. I mean, anything else from second? So, the other night, um, I agree there there's a lot of good stuff in that. One of the questions I brought up was where's the background check that I'm concerned about? And I'm concerned about our kids safety of going into a locked door without somebody being background checked by themselves. I brought that up. I'm not presented with anou that shows it on there. Okay. I even brought it up a second time during that meeting. I still don't see theou with it on there. And there's some other questions that were brought up. No changes have been made to thatou. So, the one that we would be working off is that. But this was
020put on there. I have no idea when it was put on there what the what that agenda item even was. I the last I remember from the meeting. We approve we we passed this motion and Commissioner Martin said that he would like to talk more about this at the work session. Would like to have it put on the work session of the next meeting. Okay. I didn't see it on there. I just saw the theou. I was under the assumption that we were going to talk about how we were going to develop thisou. Okay. What we were talked about at that last meeting and we passed the motion was on there was the uh mental health contract renewal. I didn't see it back on. In fact, I called Dr. Arnold the next day and didn't
021know what had happened to that and then asked him if you know Commissioner Martin had taken it off and he said no that's what the HM or theou was. So, you know, I remember just a couple months ago we talked about the JAS not being real specific, and I didn't think we needed I mean, I I would think that it would be by now pretty well um detailed in in our agendas of what we're talking about. We talked about theou the other night, but we never did finish talking about contract renewal and and I have a whole bunch of things. I actually requested a representative from Allied and Helen Ross McNath to be here so that I had questions for them. Once we took a uh a break after the lawyer spoke, I thought we
022were coming back to finish talking about it. Next thing I know, everybody got up and left. As far as I was concerned, the discussion wasn't over, but we moved on. So, like I said, I thought we were going to talk about theou and how we were going to develop it. And I'm not saying we all have to get together, but I think we need to figure out how we're going to make that happen. And I would be fine with, you know, individually. I don't think we have to get together. Uh we we can I could send Dr. Arnold things that I'd like to see on you or taken off. You can any of the any of the commission if you all want to meet, we can meet. But my motion is that we're to develop
023this with us. I had no say in what was on there and I think it's a good document to work off of. I'm I don't think we need to start from scratch, but the motion on the floor is to develop it with them and and I'm not saying that we have to sit in a one room together or call a special call meeting for I'm willing to do that if y'all want to do that. But I know that I have certain items that were not put on this that I requested the other night. So, Mr. Chair, if I'm up. Yes. The director of school was there. The lawyer was there. They done what the motion asked. They presented us with a document. Then we had a meeting and we could have changed things. I didn't
024hear anybody ask, I want to add this. I want you to take this off. I never heard none of that. I would be in in favor of if we work on thisou it'll have to be done in public. We cannot break the sunshine law. So a work session is a good time to do that and we had one. I thought when we left Monday night I don't know you said everybody left. I think all school board members were there when the death settlement. Okay. So nobody left. We were all still there. And so after the meeting was over, I'm coming to this meeting tonight assuming we had had anou to vote on because nobody changed anything. You had your chance, but apparently you want another chance. That's fine. Put it on agenda for the next
025uh work session and do something. And then when it shows up on the agenda, then we vote on it. we vote tonight or you can vote. You can make a motion on that and then get it on the floor and then you can amend it if you want to. But anyway, I thought since nobody changed anything on the document that it was good to go. I don't think if any changes had been made, we could have published that quick enough for this meeting. I mean, if if somebody said, "Hey, we only had this. I'm going to take this away." Well, we've already put out this draft. And I don't think that it would have been suitable to just say, "Well, we got three days for people to look at it." But that's just me done
026second time. Mr. Mr. Chairman, uh, I think if we made any changes, we as a board would have had to vote to make those changes. We don't vote at work sessions. We vote. Oh, sir, I know that. I know that. All right. Anyone else? So, we going to vote to make changes tonight. When are we going to make the changes? Answer my question. I've already session the only way we can change that document then the end of court here is we have to vote on it during work session. So it's on the agenda has to put it on the floor and make some changes and vote on the amendments. All right. Motion's on the floor to remove number two mental healthou from the agenda tonight. All those in favor of the motion to remove mental
027healthou from the agenda, raise your right hand. That' be four. Four. All those opposed. Three against. The motion passes to remove mental healthou from the agenda. That means we go to the approval of the agenda. Is there a motion to approve the agenda? Doug made the motion to approve the agenda. Dawn has seconded. Discussion. All those in favor approve the agenda show by raising your right hand. 54. All those opposed. Two against. Motion passes to approve the agenda. All right, that brings down the consent agenda. There's a couple things on here. The minutes from last two meetings and the field trip for the JCHSLA. Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda? [Music] Doug has made a motion to approve the consent agenda. Second. Second. All second discussion. All those in favor of approval
028of the consent agenda show by raising your right hand. All those opposed. One against four one against. Consent agenda passes. No committee reports. Unfinished business budget amendments. So that brings us then down to new business. First thing up is number one, fund 177 2025 20226 budget approval. Is there a motion on this? Mr. Chair? Yes. I move to amend the school district 2526 budget to include the $12.5 million approved by the county commission to be placed in fund 177 for the Jefferson Elementary School renovation. Is there a second on that motion? second. All right. Again, move to amend the school district 2526 budget to include the $12.5 million approved by the county commission to be placed in fund 177 for the Gerson Elementary School renovation. Is there any discussion on this? All right. Well, we'll
029vote. All those in favor of the move to amend school district 2526 budget to include the 12.5 million approved by the county commission to be placed in fund 177 school renovation show by raising your hand 740 against and next um is the Pekka committee members um you remember Dr. her honorable was going to pick some new folks to be on the committee to replace the school board. Um so I'm going to make a move to approve the revise committee list um as presented. Is there a second? Dawn has seconded. Any discussion on that? Is this the revised one? Yes, I one that's in here. Okay. Anything else? All right. All those in favor of the move to approve the revised packet committee list as presented. Show by raising your right hand 74 zero against that
030motion passes. And number what's now number three? Lewis group contract termination. Mr. Chair. Uh yes. I move to terminate the professional service agreement. uh dated 61121 between Jefferson County Board of Education and the Louis School Architects by executing provisions 9.5 and 9.6 under article 9 of set agreement. Is there a second on that? Second it. Is there any discussion on that? I heard if he's not going to he's got first choice. Yeah. You got anything you want to? Uh yes. The uh 9.5 and 9.6 are the uh the uh clauses that allow us to uh terminate the contract uh which I believe now that we have decided and voted to renovate is in order uh and that is under article 9 of state agreement. Uh I believe now that we the funding has been approved
031and that we have voted to place that money in our budget that is in order to terminate this contract. Anybody? Uh I'm going to vote for this motion, but I do want to say something about the Lewis group. I've known those guys since 2010. They're straight up. They're A1. They do a good job. Uh if it wasn't for the Lewis group, we wouldn't have a performing arts center to our school. Uh they did their research and have made an excellent performing arts center that's highly used and other things throughout the county. They have also worked for uh the county itself, not just the school system. And but to me personally, I guess of course they did a renovation of high school and Patriot Academy, but the jewel is a renovation of Pedmont and that was
032an awesome job. I know the teachers and the principles and they had to put up with a lot and I was down there some the Lewis group had it under control and you go down there now, you would never think that that building had ever been remodeled. It looks brand new. and they came they came in under budget. So they are a good architectural firm and in my opinion very trustworthy and that's almost and just to clarify this is just um cancelling the contract for the project of the Jefferson Elementary the new the new schools that was signed back in 21. Yeah. I just want to make sure that that's what that was. Anyone else? All right, then. Um, I'll read this again. Move to terminate the professional services agreement dated 61121 between Jer School
033Board of Education and Lewis Creek Architects by executing provisions 9.5 9.6 under article 9 said all those in favor of this motion show by raising your right hand. 74 zero against motion passes. That brings us down to school commissioner. But remember, if you talk, please turn your microphones on as well. Anybody got anything? May I ask Mr. Arnold what effect this mental health issue will have on our school system present time by the Glenn Glennian, excuse me, there is June meeting. So, um that is a great possibility um to get that in there. Of course, after after that June meeting, then um I'm not sure we'd have to special call a meeting to address it to have a contract in place by the start. Um I I do want to call attention that, you know,
034we do listen to the board. Um I heard Mr. Hardy speak about um and ask about background checks. And uh um on page one five uh talks about background checks. Contractor agrees to comply with Tennessee code annotated 5495413 as required under statute. contract will provide fingerprinting and criminal history record checks conducted by Tennessee Bureau of Investigation. The Federal Bureau of Investigation for all employees, subcontractors, personnel, and volunteers of contractor that will enter the grounds of any Jefferson County school property owned by Jefferson County School System. Um, it goes on under B to talk about scrim criminal background check shall be conducted at the expense of the contractor in accordance with TCA 49513 and the contractor shall maintain background check records in accordance with applicable laws and that also in 495413 includes DCS background checks also.
035Thank you. Anyone else? So, I'm going to address that first. Uh, I've actually got a couple things to say. Um, I know that the nursing does fall under a little bit more stringent background check. I know that for a fact. Um, we've had a nurse that tried to come on board, come into schools. Now they're done at their employment of their agency uh and passed it. When they pursued to come into the schools and had to have a background check, they were not cleared. So at some point, what's been able to be allowed to get employment with an agency or the school system, whatever level that was put in for them to go and have a background checked, something didn't clear. And so that tells me that there are different levels or things they look
036at and I would like to see it. And that's kind of what I had said at the meeting the other night. Um when I said something to uh Mr. Bennett, um he made a comment that well I'm sure that we're doing that. We would hope you are and I would like to see that level. I mean, we're talking about our kids and our kids safety is number one. Period. To me, it goes above education because if we're not going to keep our kids safe, we can't even educate them. And so, that's my first priority when it talks about a child, let alone them entering a room, closing that door with an adult alone. Okay. So, that's that's the level of background check I would like to see. Um I do want to make a comment
037the other night. Um apparently I had made a comment uh and had mentioned some principles the word principles and did not mean to direct and point a finger at principles as a cause or the reason why we're having a discipline problem. Um apparently some had kind of taken it that way and I do want to you know personally apologize. That was not my intent. And after thinking about it, you know, like I I was just trying to move up the chain. And I think as a school board, as you move up the chain of command, even when you get to Dr. Arnold, he has a chain of command above him and that's us. And you know, I'm not trying to point the finger at anybody over discipline or how things are done. And if there
038is somebody, we need to be looking ourselves and how we deal with policy. Of course, everybody has restraints. Everybody underneath us has restraints to the policies we make. We are under restraint of the state. So, we can only make certain policy as well. But I do want to make sure that I if there's any of the entity in the school district that feels called out, I did not mean to do that and I apologize. The last thing I'd like to say is that I would highly encourage school board members to uh I'm willing to work out this however we need to to get it done. Um I would suggest maybe we send things to Dr. Arnold what we'd like to see on there or off of there and if we do need to have a
039special called meeting to pursue this further to get this done, I'm fine with that. um so that we can get this thing wrapped up at the next meeting. Yeah, I had a question um from a citizen who had asked um let's see, are there any enforcement mechanisms to make sure these counseling services adhere to protocol? Now, I'm assuming that's essentially what is supposed to help with that as well. Is there anything beyond the Theou is a binding um legal document that would um you know if they choose not to follow the theou then that would essentially could terminate um the contract. Okay. And the other question is are there any reports required from the uh these mental health service providers to uh give to the school director to keep them accountable? Well, I'm not sure
040what keep them accountable means. Don't hold them accountable for I guess if there's any harm or anything like that done to a child hypothetically. Yeah. So, they're independent contractors. Um, you know, no different if a HVAC person was in there working and and dropped something on an employee, injuring them. We're not liable for that. The contractor would be held liable for that. So, um, they accept liability coming in to um to our place of business. Okay. So essentially I just want to say that is a great it is a great foundation to work from. I read the whole thing top. I do like how it does protect against liability very much so. But with that said um I was not a part of the development process. I I do like it's a good start. And
041just know on on my part um normally I come to the board with a recommendation. I don't come with a blank sheet of paper. I feel like that's my job. So I produced I mean if you want me to come, you know, and just sit here and I'm happy to do that. But I mean I feel like in my inboard policy it is my duty to inform you to bring you information and to give that to you. Um so um I feel like that I did my due diligence. Um, I got the board attorney there and um, you know, this is is is what we produce for you and I feel like that, you know, it's in compliance with what needs um, for our district. Uh, first of all, uh, I'm sorry if I didn't
042mean to do that. You watch her. I said, "I'm sorry if I threw off the handle. I didn't mean to do that." All right. Okay. Well, I just I'm married. Okay. Well, yeah, we're all Anyway, first of all, um Oh, you're fine. Yeah, fine. Uh secondly, my my my reason for wanting to it. We just got this on Monday. It's Thursday. I just really haven't had a chance to read it as much. Uh I think there were some questions that Mr. been raised that I had even thought about, you know, that I would like to think about while I'm reading the a little bit more. Um maybe email some some suggestions or concerns to Dr. Arnold. He can then get together with Mr. Bennett, talk about them, and bring something like he had at the
043last work session back to the new work session that has our input. I think that's a good way of doing it. Uh I I think it's great that we have a template to work from. I do uh just coming in with a blank sheet and trying to figure I mean I've never written anou. That's his job. He did it. I think it was great. So you know now we'll have some input in it. Now we can have a document we can discuss at the next work session and hopefully vote on it the next uh business session. Our next work session I think is June 2nd. Correct. Right. And a business session I think is June 8th and six from eight or two from eight six or something like that. So I agree with you on
044the time. All right. But the only time we can as a group uh come up with anou is during a work session. during a public meeting. Yep. Now, and we all agree on that. I know we could not vote on it Monday night, but I, you know, I I came to that meeting looking at that thing as a draft. And I know Tommy and and the lawyer put it together for us. It was something for us to go by is the way I looked at it. I I read it. I couldn't quote you one word from it right now, but I did read it and I think we need one. I've always I agree with you. So, what we need to do, I think, is change that June 2nd work session back a little bit
045so we can meet the time constraints, have a meeting, work out anou, and get it on the agenda for the June 8th meeting. Does that make sense? We need time. We got to follow the rules. And again, if we worked it out at the June 2nd meeting, we have to do that during a work session. Okay? June the 2nd is not going to meet our policy. So, if we could, I'm just thinking here is move our work session back to fit that time constraint that we have to meet. come together and we're not voting. Okay. Uh if you'd like to change something and act then it's then uh you know we can talk about and then come up with anou that when it's on the agenda we go ahead and vote say I I that
046was on the agenda tonight. I assumed there was no problems with it and I was ready to vote for it because I thought everybody was savvy with it, but apparently not. So that's my suggestion is have a a work session far enough back so that we can vote on it June 8th and and uh bring you a pill and a blanket. as far as a document. Um, so we put an agenda together and then we put information in there for the board. Um, so that doesn't mean that there'll be anou in your work session packet in June. That doesn't mean that we can't make changes, bring a new document, hand carry, we hand carry budget amendments all the time, right? Uh so we hand carry a document to a meeting. Um and be able to
047make those adjustments. Um, you know, the thing is you don't want to do anything that um, you know, you don't want to add an agenda item that is not given the public time to, but changing a document, you know, adding certain language doesn't change the agenda item and and go outside of of having public meetings. But um you know I just want you to know that we're willing to do that on a you know fly by seat of her pants basis as we need to. Dr. Could I suggest being that May is kind of a crazy month especially we get further into graduations and everything. Um, I I think the the most important thing is that you're available for it and I don't know what nights you are available because there's so much going on.
048Could you maybe email us some suggested dates and then we can get back to you on which of those dates, you know, would would work for for us. I mean, I'm pretty open, but you're the one who's got the constraints, I think. So, if you can let us know what dates you would suggest, then we can all respond to that. Sure. just for individual type meetings. So, uh either either that or or like coach Bradley said, you to work to to reset a work session maybe earlier instead of having work session on the 2nd of June have it like the last week of May. Is that what you're saying? You know, whenever Dr. Arnold's available, right? I'm you know, I'm pretty much available other than the high school graduation night. I'm sure he's not available
049that night either. So, but but I mean it's fine with me if we keep the work session to where it's at. That's fine with me, too. It's just that if we're going to set it, I think we have to be more concerned with Dr. Arnold sketch because he's going to be the one. I'll be happy to send out some, you know, individual meetings or you can email me. I know that I've reached out to a couple of board members and um started a chain with Mr. Bennett in case you know you want to uh talk to him. Um but if you meet June the second, you make any modifications, then we could hand carry a document. Yeah. So, if we if I meet with Bill and Dawn and Doug over the next two weeks, make
050some modifications, um I could put that in the packet for the second and then if more modifications are made the second, we can hand carry a document for consideration on the fifth. That's kind of what I have. All right. I don't think I don't like that idea of somebody getting you individually and getting to work on anou by theself. I think this group needs to be together when we work on anou with him individually and you say well I want this under 89 whatever you add it right okay I had no input on that I didn't get to speak up and I don't see it until till uh June 8th and I don't have I don't have time to express my opinion Mr. Sure. No, you would see it at the work session on June
0512nd. You would see it at the work session on June 2nd. Well, what he was talking about was meeting with some of y'all individually and getting some ideas together and bringing that to the work session on the second where we can all talk about it. I don't think we've got enough time. It doesn't meet the time frame, does it? Yes. Yes. Yes, it it does meet the time frame if because you will have you will have theou five days prior to the work session or so. So then you would have the work session and everybody would have an input. Then um I understand I still believe we should do what work on this as a group. That's what we are as a group and uh no individual meetings on this and you can on the
052the second uh we can walk out anou and if it meets the time constraint at the end of that meeting you'll have something that can tap up and bring to the meeting on June 8th and we all you know if Bill says something he wants on there and I I'm here I'm meeting I say I I agree with that. I want to be able to speak my peace, but you, like you said, we can't vote on it. We have to work it out somehow. And I just I still think we ought to do it with a as a group. Yes. I don't like the idea of just two or three meet. We're a school board. I' I've been on a school board 20 years. Okay. Okay. We've always had our differences. But we've never had
053two or three that tells you exactly what they want, how they want it, and we have to follow that procedure. I think we need to work it all out together, not as an individual. I just don't I don't agree with that. June or June would be so if we were to have something if we were if we were to have our normal work session I think it's June 2nd and make our changes is what you're saying is that we can say okay we're all fine with this if we can get this worked up and then three days later on I think it's the fifth you'll be able to present it to us for to vote We we would hand carry a document to the meeting. Um let me interrupt. I was 50% right on the
054day. It's June the 2nd. Yeah. As a Monday, but our meeting is June 5th. Yeah. So there's not enough time that times. I was still thinking June the 8th. But thank you, Danny. Enough time for what? Well, to let the public know that we have it. let them know it's like seven days in advance that we're it would be an agenda item honestly. So it doesn't have to be the agenda the week before, right? We try to get it out to the public seven days before, right? So theou that we work out on the second, the public will not get a 7day advanced time to look at it. Right? So that's not a requirement. We do that all the time with budget amendments and this is a big deal, right? And I'm not I know
055I understand. Yeah, budget amendment they pop up. I understand that. Right. But thisou is a big deal. We're we're we're working with something that the public is really involved in, maybe more so than the remodeling of Jeff Elementary School because this is a countywide situation. So, we need to get it right and save ourselves some headaches. If you want to do it the second, type it up. Bring it to the meeting on uh not the eth but the 5th. I know June the second. That's fine. I'm just uh maybe being too picky. I don't know. But it is a big deal is the only thing. So that's the last homeless. Mr. So I and I would be, you know, I don't I don't want anybody to feel like we're trying to run something by him.
056I kind of agree with coach on this is, you know, I would hate somebody to say, "Hey, we didn't have time to look at this or not that the public really has any say in changing anything, but I do, you know, I used to be on the other side, too, and I enjoy being able to see something and knowing what I was going to walk into. I I would be okay if we changed it. I know end of May, especially Memorial Day weekend, being that week before, it may be hard, but maybe we keep the work session the same. We just move the business agenda forward to the following Monday or something. You know, I'm okay to work with a different date, you know, doesn't matter to me. I really want to say, we said
057here tonight, we didn't get the document ourselves soon enough to do anything. And now we're going to uh push it through and the public I'm really this uh is a big deal. It's very controversial deal and if you remember I do I remember uh was in 2022. I remember that meeting. Um I believe it's Allied VA was in 2022 because I just become chairman and that was it. I remember last year we had two we had two meetings. One about the graduation tassel and one about was 22. You're right. And I remember that meeting. If you remember this place was packed. Couldn't get nobody else in it. And what I don't want to do, what I don't want to happen is an excuse. Well, we didn't get this in time. That's the only thing. I'm
058not trying to be difficult here. I'm just trying to save some part and get public support whatever we do. They they had notice, but that and I agree with you. I don't want I don't want it to look like we're trying to slide anything. You know, I would like to if you want to make changes. All right. So, I think we worked something out. I don't think we I don't think there's any major changes to that document. We're we're going to we're going to try to figure out whether uh after this evening, we'll figure out if we can maybe as the suggestion maybe instead of moving that work session back, move the business session to the next week or something like that. That probably better. Yeah. So, we we'll try to get that worked out
059and then we'll let everybody know on that. So, the work session going to stay on June the second. Yeah. I think I don't think nobody's going people may be out of town during that that last weekend. Yeah. All right. Uh, anything else? Well, I'll end by saying this. I believe next week is teacher appreciation week. So, happy early teacher appreciation week to everybody. We know the teachers work hard and put a lot into it. We appreciate everything they do for the county. So, anything else? All right. And nurse appreciation week. Yeah. Yeah. Nurse appreciation week. I think there's some words administrative administrator per there's all sorts. So anyway, all right. Is there a move to adjourn? All second. All those in favor?