001business session to order. Um, we'll go ahead and we'll stand. We'll have our moment of silence and our pledge of allegiance. You don't mind standing. We'll have a moment of silence. All right, thank you for that. Um, we're supposed to have 4 member here and pledge Matthew Bird here. We'll go ahead and say it here. Attention salute pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you all for that. That brings us down to the public input portion. Do we have anybody? Nobody on public input tonight. So, we're quick to move into um changes to the agenda. Are there any additions to the agenda tonight? All right, hearing none. Is there a move
002to approve the agenda? Got a move by the end to approve the agenda. Second by Paul. Discussion. All those in favor of frozen agenda show by raising your right hand. Motion passes. Mr. Chairman, I mentioned please uh make sure you uh we keep getting complaints from our audio visual lady that she get the uh recordings don't pick up our voice. So, could you make sure you uh talk into the mics, please? Thank you. All right. brings us to the consent agenda. Is there anything um with the approval of minutes? Any additions or subtractions on that before we vote on that? All right. Then um is there a move to approve the uh amendments from the March 6th and 14th meeting and the overnight field trips? So I have a move to approve that. Is there
003a second? Second moved by Doug and a second by Dawn. Any discussion? All those in favor of approving the consent agenda. Show raising your right hand. All right. It' be 64 again. Motion passes. Okay. That brings us down to committee reports. Um, we don't have any policies on first reading, but we do have a couple on second reading. So, I'll turn that over to Doug. Okay. Mr. Chairman, I propose adoption of the following policies as approved by the policy committee on second reading. Um the first is uh a policy 6.312 which uh is on our use of personal communication devices and electronic devices. What it does is pretty much uh standardize uh the uh consequences for infractions throughout the u the school system. What I would like to is chairman Cameron contacted me this morning.
004I guess Governor Lee signed uh legislation that was passed by the state house and senate into law. Um we knew this was coming. We knew what was in the bill. It didn't change virtually any from the time it was first introduced. So um Dr. Arnold contacted our attorney. field this fully complies with that legislation. Uh we won't know exactly until we get, you know, sample legislation from TSBA, but there might be a couple little tweaks we have to make into this down the road, but as of right now, this fully complies with the bill that was signed by Governor Lee. So with that uh in in mind I move that uh the uh revision and the new policy 6.312 uh be passed. All right. Motion has been made to approve on second reading policy 6.312.
005It doesn't need a second. Any discussion? All right. All those in favor of approving the policy 6.312 on second reading by raising your right hand and B 640 against that passes. The next uh policy on second reading is policy 6.702 student clubs and organizations. What this does is um gives the principal director uh and whomever they deem needs to be involved the authority to approve uh clubs, new clubs uh on any campus in the school system and does not allow once a decision is made um to not approve a club. there is no appeal to the school board. It also sets out very detailed uh criteria as to what somebody what a new club what how they have how they need to qualify to be on our campuses. So with that in mind, um I
006move that this be adopted by the board on second read. All right. Motion's been made to uh adopt policy 6.702 on second reading. Need a second. Any discussion? All right, we'll vote. All those in favor of adopting policy 6.702 on second reading. Show by raising right hand. That would be against all those policies pass on second reading. And then brings us down to you want to say anything about the budget there, director? I know that's coming up next week, but you want to since we got budget committee down here, we can speak on it now. If you all have any questions, I apologize. I wasn't here during the workshop. Um I was with budget committee at the time, but um if you all have any questions what's been presented to you, um we're happy to
007answer any questions this evening. Yeah. So, I've tried to get you um some notes and just about five year um your fiveyear plan and how we you know that definitely helps us to give an idea of what you want. We can tie things to it. I do want So, our next meeting with the budget for consideration is the 10th and that is at 6:30 with this board. Yeah, with this board at 6:30. It's listed as 5:30 just that was on a budget. Um but it's posted at 6:30. So it'll be 6:30 here on the 10th. Um and if you want to come in, schedule any time to look at it, discuss it, you know, um if you want any individual time, I'm I'm happy to to set that up before before you know you have
008to consider it. So, um, just let me know. All right. Thank you for that. Um, let's see. That takes us down to the um select or ad hoc committee reports. Um, so joint school board county commission committee, we are supposed to be uh county commission supposed to be the host of the next joint commission meeting. That'll be April 17th at 6:30 I believe Patriot Academy. Um we're still waiting on finalizing the um agenda for that night, but um hopefully it'll be a lively and [Music] spirited meeting. Um building maintenance, you anything you want to add in on that? Uh we spent Tuesday night and uh we had on our agenda was the um traffic control duty. Um Dr. Arnold had actually spoke with the sheriff himself on other um police departments and just making sure
009that we are within the guidelines we need to be um to make sure we weren't liable for situations or any concerns that they may have. I know that the sheriff This was the sheriff, right? Had to offer couple vehicles, lights in certain areas, you know, where they were doing some traffic duty. Um, also offered any other uh equipment we may need to um maybe help out with our people that are out there. Anything else on that? Yeah, they just u mainly spoke about the uh you know Dard city they can't really they can't offer any officers to help um you know Dard city has three officers or two officers three school zones just not enough help to go around so so they're they're really supportive to provide um I came through there today and there
010was state trooper state troopers are out right Now they've got an initiative going on, but our school zones were well protected today. We have a lot of people from out of town that that come through and don't realize. So, we really try to emphasize it. Um, you know, with people going through and people standing in the road, whatever. Uh, we want to make sure we can make it as safe as possible. We also discussed the mainten maintenance needs lists and we We'll be having that brought up at our next maintenance committee which will be on May 22nd at Jefferson Elementary School at 6:00. Of course, everybody is invited whether it be public or any board matters. Um the other thing that we had discussed at the previous meeting and uh Mr. Bridgewwater had brought back
011to me was there was a concern for lack of um speed zone flashing lights at Rush Strong and Big Market being on Old AJ County Road didn't have any other than just a sign. So we actually got prices on those that was going to be total to put both of them in installed. um also be put on I think it was a fiveyear kind of a uh program um that included in that was total $32,732. So I think we're looking at maybe getting those put in at both of those schools and I don't think we kind of trying to figure out there's any other school that needed that not to our maint. All right. Thank you. What was the next meeting? May 22nd. May 22nd. Yeah. 6:00. All right. Thank you all for that. That
012takes us down to unfinished business. No unfinished business. That puts us in new business here. And looks like we've got mental health contract renewal TISA outcomes funding resolution requesting permission to participate in section 4 of the Education Freedom Act. 25 a resolution on transportation surplus Jefferson County employee bonus proposal with use of fund balance and then recommendations from the science curriculum adoption committee. So first one up mental health contract renewal chair. Yes sir. I'd like to make a motion. I move to suspendou and contract renewals with all mental health providers in order for the schoolboard members along with the director of schools and the schoolboard attorney to develop an MOU for mental health providers which we presented for approval once achieved. Is there a second on that? I'll second. That would be Doug is second.
013And so it's Paul has moved to suspend theou and contract renewals with all mental health providers in order for school board members along with the director of schools and the school board attorney to develop anou for mental health providers which will be presented for approval once the chief. you're I'll try to keep my short although I have quite a bit um done a lot of looking into this and actually spoke with TSBA uh attorney that represents us. Um, what am I the reason why I asked to suspend the contract renewals was um the way I the way I look at it is the schools are under our uh responsibility and to have a contract made by another company on the stipulations that they will enter into our buildings. I don't think that that is uh
014the proper way to have it done. We don't get to dictate any of the regulations, the rules, or um how things should be followed when they come in. Um, and I'll kind of just put this more in maybe a layman's term. If somebody walks into your house, if I walked into somebody's house and I said, "I'm here, but this is how we're going to run your house." It's no different. You know, I don't follow they don't fall under my rules. I need to follow with somebody else's rules. Now, with that being said, I have several concerns that I think that we need to make sure get, you know, into thisou um through my discussion with Miss Trent, um I found out that these therapists that we have coming into our schools, they don't get background
015checks done by our school district. Um which is very concerning to me. a lot of you know that my son has a nurse that follows him into the school. Um and I'm you know I understand that these therapists when I get hired by the agencies that they work for they get their background checks done um just like my nurse but then as for my nurse to enter the schools they they also get one done by the school system. Um but this is not happening with his therapist. Concerning part to me would be um you know I I don't I don't allow a nurse to go into any room with my child unsupervised let alone lock the door close the door. Um a lot of these nurses that we have I know very well. You get
016to know them after a while. You're talking about a therapist who maybe a parents met them once or twice and you're you're talking about a child at anywhere from kindergarten through 12th grade stepping into a closed doors atmosphere with an adult. Um, if I was a parent, I would have a lot of problems with that. I don't I don't think that that's proper. I think it's very um responsible for a school system like us to allow that to happen. Um I also know that we're having therapy sessions for students in the gened setting um that are not special ed children or kids that have BIP, which is a behavioral intervention plan. um you know they don't uh NIP is an individual education program they these are children that may um due to their disabilities may
017have behavior issues stuff like that we're talking about just gened setting students and who for whatever reason end up having to be referred to these mental health agencies and are seen by them um during school time. After speaking with the attorney, uh he said absolutely no way should that ever be happening. It should not be happening in our schools as far as therapy sessions. There should be offices that these mental health agencies have that you know if it happens that should be done on on their grounds, not our grounds. Um yeah, he was he was pretty adant about not having general therapy sessions inside our school. You know, another thing um that I've been told uh two years ago I sat out here when when this subject came up was the convenience that it has
018for these students and the parents. Um you know, I'll just tell you it is I have a child that has specialist. Um, nothing's conveniatrist, a cardiologist, pulmonologist. We don't have any specialists that my that I can take my child to make it convenient for me or my family or my wife to be able to be seen within the school. I wouldn't expect the school system to do that. These are medical treatments that is being performed in the therapy sessions. No different than any other kind of medical treatment that would be performed on a child outside at at a doctor's office. Um um see what else. Also speaking with the attorney on that um he said no way should that be ever used for a convenience purpose. parents have a parental duty to make sure the
019child gets the proper medical attention necessary. It's not the responsibility of the school district. Um, and that's kind of the same what I've been trying to kind of reiterate there. Um, when I was talking to Miss Trent, I asked her what the problem was trying to fix or accomplish and what they were brought in for. and you know I I was told that it was an attempt to lessen behavior issues and be supportive of the team. Um I requested a behavior um incident bullying incident report and thought I do my own work and got it and I don't see these incidents declining which we were told two years ago that was supposed to do. In fact, I have I couldn't print because every time I tried to print with so many school districts, couldn't read
020the school districts, but I'd be happy to pass this around, but I broke this all down per year. And we have gradually been increasing um to a staggering 196 incidents last year being reported. Um we're probably on the average about a hundred more incidents a year than Hamlet County who I have been looking into and finding out unless they've just recently um you know brought in their own mental health agency. We're about 100 on average more incidents a year. Now they have two high schools. They have populations more their their student body I would imagine is more than us county I'm kind of asking no but when I see that many more and a continual rise over the years since 2019 when this therapy group came in I start questioning whether or not um it's
021actually getting done their purpose of being in our schools Um, I can keep going on with more things. I don't know if if anybody has any questions up to this point. Other thing that I have kind of concerned is, you know, and I'll just say I'm not a kid in school today. I don't I'm glad I'm not. I know they deal with a lot of stuff, but if these children need to be seen that bad, we have a current wait list of 67 kids on a waiting list to be seen. Why don't we have these kids or why are they not being opted out to go see some other therapy therapist somewhere? And to know that we have 67 kids that if they really need this kind of treatment that bad and we're okay with
022them sitting on the waiting list, that also bothers me. Um the first year that the company came in, they saw 175 students. It jumped the next year to 450, then to 456, then 511. I mean, you can kind of see the staggering way keeps inclining. um over the course of a year and a half from January 23rd through March of 25 they've seen 686 kids which is roughly about 10% of our student body and that's staggering to me that that many kids need mental health I don't I don't know if if it's really being done. Um I know that they get referrals once they get referred they I would say are labeled with anxiety, ADHD, whatever it is. My first question would be if if we have this many kids being labeled I hate being
023I hate kids being labeled to begin with. All it does is give them a crutch for the rest of their life. why they can't perform, why they can't do things, why they can't pay attention. Um, you know, it's it's comparable to if you think you're sprained your ankle, you walk into a doctor's office, once you find out it's broke, suddenly you can't walk on it. And I think we're doing that to our kids. And it makes me wonder if we have that many kids need to be seen, do they display these same type of behaviors, diagnosis at home? You know, a kid has ADHD and he's labeled that he goes home and he sits on Xbox for three hours. I'd probably say a kid doesn't have ADHD. I'd probably say that there's something going on
024in the classroom that keeps them from paying attention. Maybe what he's eating, maybe a lack of patience on a teacher that uh you know, for some reason thinks that he misbehaves. These are kids. I don't Nobody has a perfect kid. because they misbehave, we label them and send them off to a therapist. And I don't think that's right. I think we need to start showing a little more patience. I also think it starts to calm their parents, maybe quote being a little more accountable for their children's actions. So, I'm not blaming the school system, but it makes me wonder if we're kind of producing the environment for these kids in the school classroom settings and the way they behave. Um, I mean, I have to see 10% of our student body in a year and
025a half. That's pretty staggering number. Um, two years ago when this all came up, we were told by the I guess she was the director down there that they don't facilitate classes. And I know for a fact that two years ago at Patriot January 20th, 23. A therapist named Kayla Owens actually facilitated the class at Patriot. Since then, I've had two parents that have contacted me. One was also a Patriot. I don't know if it was that same day. And I had another parent that said it happened at one of the middle schools. Um, being told that they don't facilitate a class and then it happening kind of sits with me. and all that. Another thing is we were told that they don't uh report out core subject areas such as science, math, English. And
026I can tell you for a fact they do um after speaking with Miss Carrie Trent, she said, you know, they they may they may get pulled out of a subject they excel in. So, let's take a kid out of an area just because they excel in science. We're going to remove them from that class to go have a therapy session which shouldn't be happening in our schools to begin with. Um when I was running for school board, I knocked on a lot of doors. I knocked on one that was in January during the snowstorm and he said, "Man, I used to be a science teacher." I said, "Oh, you mind me asking why you no longer work for the system and for the district?" and uh I was kind of waiting to hear about it
027being money or something like that. He said, "I'm going to be honest with you." He said, "I can't teach my kids. They keep not showing up for class when they're there. They go see a therapist or whatever it is that they have instilled in the schools," he said. And then half the time they have a therapist sitting in the back of their classroom, which is just as disruptive as a student not being there. When I spoke to the attorney about that, he said that these therapists shouldn't be doing any of that kind of stuff. They shouldn't be walking in any classroom for observation or anything like that. You know, these are just some of the points that I have that that really make me wonder, you know, why do we have them in our schools?
028You know, if I'm being told one thing two years ago and I'm finding out things aren't that way, basically being lied to, I start getting a little I start losing trust in certain people. Um, I'd like to think that was maybe a one time occurrence. Maybe we've, you know, they came in with the right intention and over time, you know, things get a little soft. There's not a lot of oversight, you know. I can maybe accept that a little bit. But I I think by creating anou that uh that we create and we mandate how and where and and what's going to take place in our schools is the right way to do it. Um I I just I'll leave it at that for right now. You second. So you're Yeah. I I just have
029a questions. First of all, what what were the real concept? You know, I was listening to you and you were kind of interweaving your opinions with with the attorney. What was the what stood out? You mentioned you spoke to two attorneys, the TSBA attorney and our board attorney. Yes. What were their m when you explained the situation as we have it now, what were their major concerns and did they both agree on these? They both had the same u opinion and they both said it was their opinion and when I spoke to each of them individually um they both share the same exact opinion um on separate occasions that one we should not be having any kind of therapy sessions in our school that having a room dedicated for that you know for these therapists
030to basically sit in our schools all day was was not okay. That was their that was the first thing they both that stuck out to me that they had both said that that was not something that was okay to do. Um now when you say okay to do okay meaning that is not that's against state law or it's we're accepting liability by doing that. I mean, but they both they both they both felt that um you know our schools are for educational purposes and if there are therapy sessions that need to be taken place and there's no times after school then that's up to the parent to come and get those kids and take them just like I said if if my if my child had a doctor appointment or a dentist appointment there was
031no times after the parent goes and gets them take them to the to the appointment. Um, now they both were pretty happy when they they found that out. Um, they were both very disturbed finding out that these therapists were sitting excuse me sitting in, you know, would would enter a classroom and sit in the back and, you know, for whatever purpose, you know, I I don't know what the purpose is, so I couldn't say yeah, they're doing this or doing that. and make both um said probably observation purposes, but that's not really the scope of what they're supposed to be doing being in our school system. Did you you mentioned about background checks? Were they Is that your opinion or is that our opinion that we needed the school district needed to do our own
032background checks and not rely on somebody else's? They both felt that um it should be something that we follow suit with if if we're going to do it for the nursing um and they agreed that it should be done for nursing that it should also be done for anybody else that comes into our schools that's going to do any kind of therapy session or um you know any other type of person that has access to our students. And I guess my last um question would be u what when you mention us versus contract. In my mind I'm a memo of understanding is usually between individuals. A contract is usually between like a public entity for example the school district and outside vendor. Are you indicating that you feel that we should go theou route you
033know where each person coming into the school uh signs of memo of understanding stating that they know what they can and can't do if they come into the school or we do that or we actually continue with a contract with a with a you know outside provider. I don't I'm a little confused there. So when I spoke with the attorney about that um you know in my in my thinking was contract you need for monetary agreement and he said that's not always that way but you definitely if there's money exchanged um then you definitely would need it to be a contract. Um having anou um he said once you start getting you take away the money and it's more of an agreement on how something terms are to be agreed upon. He said you could
034put contract orou it's really becomes one and the same but theou is um so it would be the uh companies assign theou and each individual therapist nurse or whoever comes into the schools they also have their ownou that which is the sameou but they would sign individually anou so that they are underneath they understand all of the rules and terms that they're coming in. The contract would be really just signed by the agency and then it'd be up to the agency to kind of um dictate what's in that contract to the individual that's coming into the school. Does that make sense? Yeah. Did the attorney indicate that there was any situation where like in an emergency or something where uh somebody who is not actually on staff at the school could come in and and
035calm the situation down or anything like that. Would that be okay or not or or what? Yeah. So, um when you're talking about emergency crisis and you know, maybe I should have kind of started my things. I'm not trying to completely disband what's going on. Um I understand there's emergency crisis goes on. I understand there's students with, you know, an IEP, which is an individual individualized education program. I understand that, you know, they may have these written in their IEPs or or the VIP IEPs. IEP, it's an individualized education program. Um, and what that is is when you have a child in the special with with special needs, whether it be autism or any kind of I mean it could be anything as far as poor hearing or somebody might have one that's, you know,
036autistic or some kind of disability. Then it's a um it it's kind of a contract at which the school will abide by certain terms on how this child will receive services. Um I mean it gets it gets really involved. My child at one point had one was under 40. Um that's kind of uncommon but u you know it's it's it's kind of an agreement between it's a agreement between parents and the school system on how their child will be given services basically. And my last question I'll be quiet because I'm just asking questions to make sure I understand where this is going. Are you does your motion indicate that you would want to suspend any agreements immediately or we would do that after this school year for the next school year? Yeah. No. So, we
037have a current contract with them right now with whoever's in there and um you know I don't think that it would be right um you know a contract's contract we need to see the contract through. I think it comes up at the end of June, June 30th. With which Well, I know with I think it's uh we have Cherokee Cherokee Hel um sets up on our campus at Rush Strong um occasionally and um Helen Ross McNab has people that are in our schools and allies behavioral health has people in our schools. So um especially Helen Ross McNav and Allied Behavioral Health both are contractors that serve students in our schools and the contracts end June 30th because I know typically it starts usually okay and and I'm trying to avoid any contracts. I'm not trying
038to get any void. So you would let the contracts in place run their Yeah. Yeah. So you know tomorrow but we we're still abiding by contracts. Yeah. I'm not trying to get rid of the contracts, but I think, you know, I also know that these companies need some time to get a contract so they know, you know, I guess for whatever purpose they need them in advance. Um, I think that this gives us some time to work out anou on our end with them. Um and not with them but with with the attorney and director of schools to kind of you know find what what we allow and what we don't want and then you know once that's done we can come back and move on as a board. Okay. When you're saying you are
039we are we going to ask Dr. wanted to kind of head this up to see what he can do or we're going to be involved with it. What are you asking? Well, I I definitely want Dr. Arm part of it. I think that he he definitely needs part of it. Obviously, the attorney for the language part of it and the legality parts of it. And then, you know, to me, every board member wants to be part of that. That's why I didn't write a board or a certain amount. If everybody wants to show up and work on that, I'm I'm fine with that. You know, I encourage it because I think that we all have some input of what we like don't like when we're all together. Then if we if there's only two that
040show up and they create thisou with the attorney and the Dr. Arnold and then we present to the board and two don't like what's in there or want this change then we go right back to the drawing board and recreate. So I I would I would highly encourage all the board members to be part of this process too. I do want to advise one thing. You only have one attorney who represents you. Other attorneys can advise, but Scott Bennett is your only representation. Um, you can get an opinion from TSBA or whatever, but they do not represent you as far as if needed. Only Mr. Bennett would be your representation. Yes. How many are we looking at here that have to be negotiated? I have so this is new information to me. So I was
041not nothing was in the packet. Um you know I'm not privy to to anything um tonight any of this information. So um I I would have to dig into it. Um I've not talked to the attorneys. Um, I don't I don't have that information. I I don't I'd have to study this. Are any of the company that involved? Is there a contract in place now? Honestly, there is. And is there money involved? There is no money involved with any of those folks. No. Helen Ross McNav is state funded and um the state um funds those and and they come into um some of our schools and then um within allied it is there is no money given to them as far as for their service. So the one that you mention there the state funds
042would we have any control over that? No. Well we we cannot accept that um or you know if we send in um So I I mean we would negotiate that with them and see if they wished, you know, if we did. It's like with anything. It's no different than painting or mowing or providing a mental health service, right? Um if we put stipulations in there that they need to follow and they choose not to follow them, then they don't have to provide a service. um within our district, any contractor, HVAC, um food service, whatever it may be. So if we get Mr. Bennett involved in these uh I feel like anou like you distinction if we approve anou and it becomes a contract. I don't that's just the way I see it anyway. Uh but
043if we get Mr. Bennett involved in thisou uh negotiation or whatever uh how much does he charge an hour? So we're under contract with um Mr. Bennett and whatever we ask of him is covered throughout the year. So he's under retain. He is. Anything else? All right. Can I just I finish up with one thing. I sat out there 2022 and Shane Johnson at the time was our director of schools and there was a series of different social services that were being promoted to the school board. Shane Johnson said we're no long he said I want you all to realize we are no longer about offering education services. We are now here to offer social services. my jaw and I looked around nobody and that bothered me. We We as a school district are not
044about a a child's social services. We we are here to provide educational services. If a child needs mental therapy, there's places they can go. And in fact, if I'm not mistaken, I think Commissioner Mayor, you have a list that you were working with somebody and made I don't know if it's already been implemented, list of providers. Yeah, I do. um one that um I started contacting Tommy about um to see if we can if we have a list of providers that can be provided to parents so they have options simple options and uh it should have been emailed to all of the board members and so this isn't an end all kind of thing we can add more you know and uh basically provides the options to the parents. I want parents to have options
045and see that they have these options and a way to reach out to any kind of um provider to ask any questions that they want to see what will be a better fit for their student. Um, you know, I really think that if we were to get back to educational services and everybody talks about literacy rate, I think our goals are way too low. Um, I think if we get back to start providing educational services and get off of the social services trip that everybody's been on, all these school districts, maybe our literacy rate will start going up. I'm tired of hearing about low literacy rates across the state. Um, you know, and I don't know what we are compared to, you know, other counties. And I'm going to be honest, I don't really care.
046I think our school should be 100%. And if what's holding us back are social services and this being one of them, maybe we got to start thinking about how to get these kids up to 99% and still try to find out why that one kid or that 1% didn't hit 100%. Uh I don't know where to go with this one. I see what you're talking about. I understand I haven't told school, you know, uh I've had kids over the years that needed some guidance if they want to help on the score or whatever would be help. I was just without I can't do that as a classroom teacher. You want to know that you can't get into that. And so sometimes you get involved in district problems and you just deal with distance problems. There's
047kids that need help and uh you talked about a list. That's great. We give it out to parents, but it is convenient for it to take place in school because some parents don't have transportation to get their kids to come and pick them up or whatever. There's there's some problem now. It may get out of hand, but we I don't think we can do away with it totally. We need that service in our schools and for our students. Uh it may get overgrown. I don't know. But I know in the years past. Uh I've been in some hairy situations and nobody to turn to. It was just me and I. You have a kid that threaten threaten you. don't mention the threat but what do you do? Uh so uh these services that are being
048provided uh I think scheduling could help and does help with that and the kids are not missing that much class time as and uh there's there's students that need that. They really do need some counseling and u if we don't do it I know it's getting to do a lot of socials but if we don't do it who's going to do it you know they fall through the cracks and uh they need somebody to talk to besides a teacher and and even parents I don't know about y'all, I found it very difficult sometimes to talk to my parents about some issues I was having at school. You know, you just, you know, as a third party can be more objective. I'm seeing a student as a discipline problem, right? And because they're acting out in
049class or doing things or, you know, Uh, and so if I deal with that and I have to take the offer or did had to take the office, I'm out of my classroom. I'm not getting to teach the other 29 or whatever. Uh, but with somebody available in the school that can be immediately on hand to deal with this problem, deal with this child and talk to this child. Uh, I think if you that's just my opinion. life experience and not demeaning parents. Sometimes it's just not reasonable even to leave their child during the day and take their child to uh some kind of therapy. They they've got to work food stuff. All right. If we can help in the school system the best we can and I think we need to. That's just Yeah.
050I didn't hear anything in Mr. Hardy about doing away. I I see it more as kind of clarifying guidelines, you know, and if there's if if Mr. Bennett, who Mr. Hardy said he spoke to, has some legal concerns, um I think we need exp what's in place now, you know, we don't do away with the contract or whatever you want to call it that's in place for this school year. Um, so I would definitely, as long as that's understood that we would keep what's in place now until the end of the school year. I think it would be very appropriate for us to take a look at, you know, what kind of guidelines we want to set forward. Like you said, you know, it's It's our house. You know, we need to set the rules
051and you know, maybe after we look at it, the rules that we set will be much different than what we have now. But I think we need to look at it. So, I'm going to vote yes or no. Thank you. Anything else? Um, about how many hours have kids missed each year or collectively? Do we have a figure on that? I I would speaking to me um whoever can answer um for going to mental health services that's unemployment. So I do actually have figments on that. Okay. Do you want to break it down by year or do you want it to Sure. So up to the end of the 2324 school year, 23,255 hours were spent for mental health therapy sessions. Over 23,000 Yes. over 23,000 hours in this district. In this district? Yes. Between
052between No, no. Up to from 2019 through 2024. Five years. Wow. And I can break those down individually if you need to. Okay. That's That's all right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'd like to make a motion, please. Uh, I move to postpone this to our next meeting. I don't have the date. If you guess I'd like for the date to be in the minutes, May something, right? May our next our next business session not not special call our next May 1st. Huh? May 1st. May 1st. I move to postpone this to uh May 1st after hearing what the director had said caught off guard a little bit and maybe us with more information. until what? The work session. Do what? No, you said no. Our next business session. Oh, we could do the work session.
053That might be better. Whatever date that is. Work session would be April 28th. Yeah, let's go that route. Good idea. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Let's see. Is there a second on that? If I second, can I make a comment? Yes, sir. You're second? Yes. What Mr. Hardy said, I I'm fully behind it. I do think we can make some changes. I agree with you. You've done a lot of study on this. You got your numbers and like Doug said, you know, we don't want to do away with mental health. That's something I feel like we do need in school. Even coach has commented that when he talked, it's something that he couldn't teach his class if we didn't have help like that. So, this is something I feel like we do need to
054sit down and discuss. Uh, but I I I understand what you're saying and I'm not I'm not turning you down at all because I agree with a lot of what you're saying. Maybe we do need to make some news. You know, I'm with you on that and I agree with everybody here what they said. Mr. fun. Uh I think we our participation in this we can improve the system to do but I don't think tonight would be the night the time to do that. So the director's kind of I'm call you know I don't you got the information but I don't you know and the director too so I postpone this. I'm not trying to delay it. I'm not playing a game here. I need more information. I think we're all and the director can
055we can discuss it at the next business session. Put it on the next uh next work session. Put it on the agenda at the next business session and not get too far behind and have more information and and have and we oversee the process. Yes. Have no problem with that at all. I don't mind putting it on the next. What do you put on the business or the work session? My problem is between now and then we sign a contract then we're bound to it for next year. A contract that we didn't create that we're sticking to somebody else's contract by their rules. Um that's the problem I have. Um, I'd be okay with majority of the board decided they want to put it on the next one. I would be of a contract being
056signed between now and then defeats the whole [Music] purpose. And you know, I would just kind of say yes, I have a lot of information. Also information that I requested a week ago that it took me one phone call and an hour later that I got, but I was told it would take at least a week before I could get this information. That's disturbing to me. Why do I have to work so hard to get information? And and I'm not throwing the director down the road. He's been anytime I recall him call me back anytime I need information asked this morning for two pieces of information I had by 2:00 somebody else was put in charge of it still haven't gotten it that would have been very crucial for me to have it and I
057had to do the lab work took me all day before I finally got hold of somebody but with all that being said, "I still don't want to have contracts signed because otherwise all this is useless till next year." I think if somebody wanted to, you could, you know, make an amendment to that postponement with the stipulation that there is no contract sign. I mean, that's something But that's just I'm just throwing that out there. I know you're putting that in your ear you're on that Mr. Chairman. That is a subsidiary motion. I don't think you can do that to that motion. The motion I made is basically putting off this motion till a specific date. You can't do it really. You need to really vote it up or down. Yeah, that's why I didn't Mr.
058Chair, we have to vote for that motion and approve it or not. May I speak to this to the amendment? Sure. Yeah. Well, I'm asking him. Well, you're looking at me. No, no, he didn't make amendment. He moved postpon Okay, I used the wrong term. My apologies. Um to me all we're doing at this meeting if we were to pass Mr. Hardy's motion is say you know let's talk about this a little bit more. Let's let things run the way they are right now to the end of the year and then talk about it. I don't think delaying this until our next month is going to do anything that passing this motion wouldn't do anyway. we're going to be getting all this information and we're not going to be voting again on it until we
059all have it, we all understand it, we all discuss it. So, I I think Mr. Hardy's motion, if we vote on that tonight, obviously, we're going to get the information he has, we're going to get more information that we need while we're discussing it, and we're not going to vote on it again until we all understand what what we're going on. I just think that's kicking the on the road for no reason at all. It's true if I uh it wasn't in the packet. I I mean I've caught off guard here. I had no idea what that was. There was nothing in the room. I can't vote for this tonight. I'm sorry. Uh I probably would in the future, but I didn't have no any time to study your information that you have. uh and
060look at it and that kind of thing. So I I can't that's the reason why I made the motion. I did. But if you don't I'm not going to be mad. I didn't mean to you. Yeah, I know. But I agree. First of all, um I did have a quick question. Uh actually a couple questions for you. Um, who do we currently have contracts with that are going to be expiring at the during summer or something like that for mental health services? Yes. Yes. I believe that is allied behavioral health and Helen Ross McN. Okay. I would like to see those contracts too. When do they expire? June 30th, I believe, is the date. I'll have to look to verify, but I believe that is um and according to the stipulations of those contracts, don't
061we have to also be able to provide a 30-day notice that we are not going to because yeah, I can review that. I can send you that contract because if that is the case, my concern with pushing this to a first is going to really encroach in that window really bad. We're going to lose our own our options to decide what to do at that point. So, I personally feel like pushing it off another month is like like explain is no point. We're going to get the information. That's so by voting by voting for this doesn't mean we can put it on the work agenda, you know, and talk about the work agenda. Someone can put it on the business agenda however they want to and deal with it. Then this is right now this
062is securing that we're not going to sign another contract until we until we work on theou and then uh but somebody can put it on the work agenda we can have a lot more you know lengthy discussion with it it's not saying that this is a done deal somebody can come up the next meeting in the business meeting and do it by time at work talking about it again the session. So, u you know, this is this is not a done draw. We can't talk about it anymore. This isn't saying they're no longer going to be in there, you know, uh tomorrow. They will still do the services that they've been contracted or they've contracted us to do uh until June 30th. What this is doing is just preventing a contract between now until we
063create you we talk about at the work session. Somebody wants to put on the business session and say I you know whatever you guys decide to do say a motion but if you somebody wants to put it on there to renew then we put it up for vote then but I'm not going to be for postponing this because I just got done watching three months get wasted away on a Jefferson Elementary project where we could a lot more stuff done and progressing and I'm done the board member sitting here spinning my wheels in a month and that's what that's where you spoke twice I'll let you go one more and then we're but everybody else has spoke twice I'm sorry I'm talking about this this motion to postpone All All right, we have a motion
064to postpone the motion that was made previously. So, coach made the move to postpone the April 28th work session. All those in favor of postponing show. Is it too late to ask a question? We're already one. All those opposed to postponing that five. The motion to postpone fails. So, And that gets us back to the original motion. I'm going to read it again because I think some people have brought this up. Move to suspendou and contract renewals with all mental health providers in order for the school board members along with the director of schools and school board attorney to develop anou for mental health providers which will be presented for approval once achieved. So we can put this on the agenda for the next meeting to discuss bring up okay as long as we can
065discuss more of what we're talking about. I don't want to do away with mental health right here and now. I want to talk about it. I don't want to discuss it because we we do that's what my motion not there for that is just to make sure we don't sign a contract to we in my hopes was to work with the director and board member and the attorney to develop anou and put the uh the ball in our court on how things are going to be done somebody put it all the work and I figured somebody I encourage you if you guys if anybody wants more information you know I work very hard and tried to get information and and I did get a lot from whatever I asked. There was a few times that
066I really had to work hard. There wasn't time to put anything. This is all within the solid week. As long as we have Dr. Arm and her attorney involved in whatever we do, I'm okay as long as as long as we're working with. I do want to say that that the information you requested is in my inbox to review. U with Miss Trent, who you requested it from, who was out today, who was investigating um stuff yesterday. Um and I've not had the opportunity to review and make sure. The last thing I want to do is to bypass my office with information and then give it to you and you ask questions and I have no clue what you're talking about. So that is in my she has provided that information that also that information
067comes from previous supervisors, previous years. Some of it is in um e plan or in a platform. Some of it's in somebody's file somewhere. Um, so I do have that information and if you tell me, if you call me at whatever time and you say, "Hey, I need this," I'll get it for you. But I didn't realize that you needed information for tonight's meeting that you were going to discuss. So I I didn't have a rush on that. That's why I said I didn't want to sound like I'm throwing you down the river and I don't even in her I I asked other things about u you know specific things that Miss Trent had to get provided with that and I do appreciate everything. There was that one thing that I when I got an
068email saying that it may be to the end of the week or something. Um, you know, I just started making phone calls um to know people in certain places. Um, I want to talk about the state level and um, you know, got forwarded something where I've been able for just for the past about 36 hours being able to review. So that's why I said this information I wasn't even able to put a lot of this information out for I couldn't even print it out. You know, I try but I tried to print out but um, you know, I can try to do more information to get more in print form versus handwriting. But uh you know I know that we are in the past this the school district has always within the first two weeks
069of April renewed contracts and being inundated with other agenda items for the past seven months. Um you know I would like to put this on last month to talk about it more. Mr. Chairman calls there second. All those in favor of of voting on the question being called and proceeding to vote show by raising your right hand four coach is so questions been called then we'll proceed to vote on this motion. Read again. Motion has been made to suspend theou and contract renewals with all mental health providers in order for school board members along with the director of schools and school board attorney to develop anou for mental health providers which will be presented for approval once a chief. All those in favor of this motion show by raising your right hand be 54 opposed
070and be one opposed. motion passes and Danny has requested that that be information be added to the work session agenda. Now we are at peace outcomes fund and if you don't mind real quick could you talk about that real quick outcome. Sure. Um, so that money's already been approved to be in um in the budget. Um, so basically I just want you to see the plan to expend those funds. Um, it's very similar to um the way we spent the money last year. We received a little bit less money this year than last. Um, so some few items were removed. Um, so basically you're looking at a little bit of CTE money, um, some, uh, tutors and instructional assistance for early grades to, um, like for you to consider that plan for TA outcomes. Mr.
071Chair, yes. I move that the proposal for the use of TISA outcomes money be accepted as presented so that these monies continue to support the programs that generated this fun. Is there a second to that motion? Seconded move that the proposal for the use of TA outcomes money be accepted as presented so that these monies continue to support the programs generating the funds. Discussion. All right. Hear none. All those in favor move that the proposal for the use of T outcomes may be accepted as presented so that these money can support the programs generating experience motion passes. Next resolution requesting permission to participate in section 4 of the Education Freedom Act of 2025. You want to say anything? So, this is just a requirement to be able to receive those um bonuses. Um we stated
072it's not an agreement to it's as it states in the resolution itself. Um it's just a requirement to receive those bonuses for um what the state refers to as teachers. And let me say it too, Dr. Arnold reached out to JCA, you know, after we kind of got the feel and they they all sort of agreed and approved what the resolution was there. So, you know, we we we we wanted to see what they thought. I mean, we did oppose the the voucher bill, but they all agreed that nobody want to stand in the way the teachers getting the the bonus. So, um, is there a motion on the resolution requesting permission to participate in section 4 of the Education Freedom Act of 2025? Mr. Chairman, yes. like to make a motion that we accept
073the resolution 2025-139 requesting permission participating section for the education freedom act. Is there a second? I'll say any discussion all those in favor then of approving the uh resolution requesting permission to participate in section 4 Education Freedom Act 2025 show by raising your right hand be 640 against motion passes. Then we have a next a resolution on transportation surplus. Is there motion for that? So move. Mr. Edson's move to approve the resolution for the transportation surplus. Is there a second? Second. Dawn second. Any discussion? I I just information purposes. Are these all from our uh bus department, transportation department? These uh surplus vehicles. Yes. You say they are. Yes, they are. Okay. Thank you. Anything else? All right, then. All those in favor of approving the resolution for transportation surplus by raising your right hand.
074640 against motion passes. Uh, next on the agenda, Jefferson County employee bonus proposal with use of fund balance. Is there a motion? You you want to say anything about that part? So, you hand paper. I handed I handed a sheet of paper that deals with a 500 $250. Um some of you um maybe did not get to see this. You may have seen a 600300 um classified bonus. And then there's also whenever the state gives the $2,000 bonus to teachers, not all um in order to be in that category, you have to provide you have to have a license and you have to u spend the majority of your day instructing students. So we figured 75 people did not do that in the district. Um that's that's a safe guess. Um it's not going to
075exceed that number. Um so roughly it would take right at half a million dollars of fund balance to be able to give all employees a bonus for next fiscal year. We ask that um that's totally up to you as far as that goes. But whenever I came in to be a director, I did mention that I feel it's important that if you give a bonus, you budget a bonus. Um it's not something that you know December the 3, we decide we want to give a bonus and and someone make a motion and move forward. It's important to budget those items. M clarification. Are we voting on the the one that was in the packet, the $600 um bonus for the $500 bonus? That is up to you, but I would recommend the one that I
076handed out to you that is 500250 that is highlighted in yellow up top. um just based on the amount and what we have to come up with I feel like that is more in our capabilities. [Music] Just I got one. So just to clarify if we approve this this will come out of our phone balance and this will cover probably not to exceed 75 staff members. Correct? And I will cover everything by doing that. Oh, sorry. I've got yours. That's all right. So, this is the number of hourly employees here and that would be the amount to cover all hourly employees. And this would be the amount to cover teachers that are not covered under the state bonus. Yeah. And that's what I meant. Yes. Yeah. I knew this and that's covered that. This this
077bottom line includes both of that. Yes, that is correct. So, roughly there is um $335,000 to cover employees and there is roughly 1.1 million to cover licensed certified employees. Some of it's from fund balance the remaining from the state. Yes. How much money is in our fund balance if you take away the money that was allocated for the re remodeling of Jeff Elementary School? I know the county commission has not passed traction on that, but it is obvious. Roughly $2.3 million roughly. You okay with that number? Roughly. Roughly. They have pennies and dollars and roughly $2.3 million. like roughly better. Yeah. So, we take away from that a half million dollars 1.8ish. Okay. Okay. And our fund balances, what is it down to now? If we It would it would go from if you approve
078this, it would go from 2.3 to 1.8. And then there may be then come next October there may be a $2 roll or a $2 million roll into the fun house. I don't know. We're not going to guess. Somewhere they'd be somewhere in there. So what the state is doing is mandating bonuses. The state is offering that bonus. Well, that's money but still it's not enough to cover everybody in our system. Yeah. It is not for hourly employees and it's not for certified employees that are not in direct instruction as students. We have teaching positions over not the limit as what as far as funding. So that was in the BEP. This is different. Tissa is different um as far as positions outside of the BE like it used to be. So TISA is a
079per student. It's based on students and not positions funding. Okay, that's good. All right, thank you. Is there a motion on this? Yes. Um, I move that we accept the bonus for classified staff as presented at $500 for full-time classified, 250 for part-time classified um, and $2,000 per certified staff not covered by TNE. All right. Is there a second on that? I'll second that. All second that. So Doug's made a motion to that we cover the cost of the bonus for classified staff at 5250 and cost of a bonus for ser for certified staff not covered by the Tennessee Department of Education at a total of $55,742 for fund balance. Is there any discussion. All right, then. All those in favor of that motion, show by raising your right hand. Six nothing. Motion passes. And
080that brings us down to the recommendations from science creat um I just want to praise um our teachers um the parent citizens who were on the committee that put forth time. um also supervisors that oversaw, directed, brought them together. Um Miss Mayor was there. Um it's it is time consuming and it's not over. Um once that new curriculum is adopted, there's a large uh workload that goes into implementation of that. So um I do want to also commend the board just over the past few years reading, math and now science is coming before you. Putting these tools in front of teachers to be able to provide this education to students is important. Getting it to them in a timely manner is very important. Um, you know, I remember being in the classroom in the August
081or in August whenever school started, sometimes in September, um, whenever I first started teaching, but we would be using last year's material till the textbooks for the current year came in. Um, so it's very important to get them in their hands. We also have teachers that are volunteering to come in to gain an understanding of the new curriculum on their own time and dime. So that that's very rewarding too that they put forth that effort for our students. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion. Yes. Um, I move to approve the elementary school recommendation for McGra Hill and the high school recommendations for Hill and Kenn. Is there a Is there a second on that? Second. Any discussion on that one? All right. actually have a question. Yeah. Um because I was talking to
082somebody too and the seven however it's pronounced um these are just recommended right these are just that's recommended by the public and school employees. So yeah this is a year-long process. It begins at the state level and these people um these companies qualify their materials and once they're qualified then it comes to the local level and [Music] um our employees who specialize in this area. So our science teachers then come together and we had some citizens um that were a part of the committee and they reviewed all the materials and this is their recommendation uh from this from the committee to you for textbook adoption. Okay. Um do we know if there's actually going to be actual textbooks that will be buying with these or is this computer class more computers or um so in
083high school they want glass sets so they're not going to buy per student or or sign a textbook but they'll have a p they'll have a print copy in their classrooms to be used and then also all of them come with online materials so they can also access the materials online um middle school also has print copies and elementary as well so they'll be able to have books in their hand and learn access. So they won't be taking textbooks home, right? Those will be for like in class and then as students come through they can use the textbook if they need. I would say in uh especially in high school they will not be taking the textbooks home. They will be able to use the print in in their room and have access to all
084materials online to do their assignments. Um middle school and elementary may may have they may take their textbooks off. Okay. How how long how long will be before they would it be like six years or something like that before we start for science? They changed it to Okay. So even we use the same text. Correct. And notice so this pro kind of new to me. So this may be a dumb question. mayor had made a motion and left out the middle school, but these things that we need to adopt, like she didn't do the the middle school one, and I actually don't have a problem with that. Um, I've never really been keen with that curriculum. Is that something that we sent them back to do to look at the curriculum again? Is that something
085that we have to adopt the new curriculum? I mean I my understanding it is the board's duty to adopt curriculum. It is not your duty to purchase curriculum but it is your duty to adopt curriculum. Okay. So, I'm just I guess what I'm asking then is, you know, um I see a lot of the McGraill except for middle school. Um I'm heard her speak the other day about McGraill being very desirable compared to a lot of the other ones. And uh just it worries me when I whole different curriculum being used for like middle school and guess that's probably why you did not have that information right um I had gone there with two other people to review all of the curriculum and McGra Hill I really loved it um I did look through a
086lot of the other ones including SAS and all of the that were available and I did not like status just it didn't sit well with me. Um I know that I personally would not like my child being taught curriculum the hill. Mr. Mr. Chairman, if can we approve a portion of this recommendation and exclude that one salis book or whatever it is? And if we do that, what what has to happen is what what what would that cause the how how would we replace that or determine what we're going to use instead of that? I I'm just trying to find out what the what the hardship would be of the school district and what the uh procedure would be to I mean, can we approve half of the bill or not half, but the majority
087of the pro proposal excludes that one book or or not? or do we have to do them all or nothing? I'm sure as a board, you know, you have the ability to do that. Um, you know, I I would go back and and say I mean, you know, we put a committee together of um these subject experts and and they spend their time taking care of this. I don't know when we could get this information back to you. Well, that's kind we're entering tecaps. Um, so they spend a lot of time reviewing this. But if you as a board choose not to accept their recommendations, then that that's up to you as a board. If you choose not to accept the recommendations of that committee, so the um Department of Education does have certain forms
088that we have to turn in. There's a due date of July of June 30th. Um, and one of the forms is um that our chairman and director have to sign that these are the adopted curriculum and it has to I do have to turn in what we adopted at every grade man. So I do have to turn in something for middle school. Um, you know, so I you know you'll have we'll have to we'll have to choose something so that that we will say that we that we Ed for each grade. I guess my question is do we have to choose you? It doesn't seem like there's any problem with the McGra Hill curriculum. There seems to be some I I haven't seen the book or the curriculum on the other one. Um, I guess
089my question is is could we approve the McGra Hill curriculum and delay approving the other one until next month's meeting until I mean I don't know what did that give you enough time to to to get a group together and and choose another book or decide no this is the one we want or um we can do whatever Even my boss here tells us you act as a board. No, but I'm wondering do you have the time to get a new recommendation back to us by the next meeting? I I wonder would you be would you like to hear from a few of the middle school committee members because there are some very thorough they spent they they very thoroughly reviewed and filled out rubrics and they would probably be willing to share why they
090made that decision and they have reviewed other m So they can tell you pros and cons and you know what they found and why they made that decision because I have no idea. Is there any of them here? No. No. Oh, there's not. I thought No, there's nobody here. I know the motion is on the floor and I know we've had teachers, expert teachers, parents. I know Miss Meer did not really like the the Sabbath, but uh I'm going by what the teachers feel and the experts feel. Can I make a motion to accept what they have put on? You can you can make a move to amend and add the middle school. Do that, please. All right. because we have expert teachers and everything that they've done a lot of study and I know
091you was there and I appreciate you but but I have to go teachers everybody kindly recommen Is there a second? I'll second that. All right. There's a move to amend the motion that's on the floor to add the middle school curriculum of Sabus. Is there any discussion if I uh Well, Danny gets to speak to it first because he may I'm good. Uh I I the only reason I'm doing it is I think it would present a real real hardship to the school district to get this to get to reevaluate that book and everything else especially when under a deadline. Um maybe I did request it in the in the future we get these curricula requests a little bit earlier so if there is something like this does come up you know that you know
092we we have time to you know have you know send it back and I don't want to feel like I'm just a rubber stamp for this. I mean I agree with Mr. Martin that you know the the teachers are the experts in and all this but I mean just to save the you know I would vote for the amendment not for the purpose because I agree with the book because I don't know if I do or don't but just to save the school district the trouble of of having to go back and re-reon the committee and then bring it back in. I just think it's too late in the game for that when we have to present something by a certain date and that date is quickly short. Thank you. Um how long is the
093adoption? Is it four or five years? Eight. Eight. It is a is a year. Okay. Um, are we able to forgo recommendation and put our own thing on there? Your own curriculum? Well, what I mean like I see most of them here on McGraill, but could we is there a possibility of going with McGraill? Not with the not with the not with the amendment that's on the floor at this minute. I mean with all due respect to the committee I know they put a lot of work into this eight years it just really concerns me because there's no change that can be done for eight years. Um is is a review of the materials really necessary? Anyways, is it would a review of the material really necessary during the 8year period? I mean, they have
094reviewed um more than just the one they recommended. They they've done reviews so they they do have information and like rubrics and you know scores for multiple you know so they have a score in middle school for McGraill it's just that you know they recommended the one that scored the highest for their section and yeah so that so I mean we I could share the reviews with you so you could see see the reviews that is that what you're asking um I'm just wondering if it would have go back to committee for that or we can make a decision now. I mean the board adopts the curriculum. You don't have to take the committee's recommendation. So it's only a recommendation that what they're suggesting it's not what we have to do. And I get, you
095know, a lot of us rely on committees to make recommendations so that we know um maybe things that are out of our purview of knowledge and expertise. I just find it, you know, I see McGra on there five times, Kendall Hunt, which which I don't have anything against. Um I've spoke with other school board members in other districts. um they kind of have the same concern as commissioner mayor does about the service and I think I I kind of fall in line with uh commissioner mayor as far as or my concern is I have two concerns. one the material that might be in there which becomes a little more objective in a broad term versus more factual. Um, and then it makes me wonder why all these other the elementary school and high school all
096all the time the McGra Hill and we have middle school isn't we're going to have elementary kids that are learning in the McGra Hill curriculum jumping the middle school is going to be a different curriculum and then going right back into it in the high school and that's kind of concerning for the next year eight years we're stuck with this um you know, there wasn't much more in, you know, saying, you know, it's it's it's a red apple or a yellow apple, you know, a green apple. It's all taste the same. It's one thing, but I do think that the middle school curriculum is it's not I think you're looking at compared to apples, I think that's an orange. And so I have the same kind of concerns as Commissioner Mayor with accepting middle schools
097curriculum and I think we just need to be careful because for the next eight years we're stuck with that. I'll throw my two on here. I know coach probably been part of this process as a teacher. It's not exciting. It is laborious. Sometimes you get a lot of material you can review. Sometimes you you get like one and it's like that's that's it. You know, the state couldn't get anything else to you besides one. Um now when I'm looking at this elementary, McGraw Hill, Middle Sus well then you'll go into a totally different one if you take biology kind. So there's going to be some some jumping around. I know personally um the last time I approved books was they didn't buy them for me but we had books had four different books for four
098different subjects. I mean I was getting what was closest to state aligned you know curriculum that I could. Um with that being said if you pay attention to the news the department of education is probably not going to exist in its current form in the next few years and states will take up and so within eight years this could all sort of change and standards change everything like that. I'm not sure you can get just me personally get anything that's going to be like you know 100% as close to you know that you want. I I'm I'm like what Doug said that you know the folks on this committee here went through and you know I want to put my faith and trust in them. So that's all that's all I'm going to say on
099the on the amendment. Is there anything else on the amendment? All right. Danny has made move to amend the original motion and add the middle school curriculum of SAS. Um all those in favor of the amendment to add the middle school curriculum of Savage show by raising your right hand. All right be four. All those opposed two against motion passes to amend the previous motion. So now the previous motion reads to approve the elementary recommendation on McGraw Hill um the middle school curriculum of SAS and the high school recommendations for McGraw Hill and Kendall Hunt for the current adoption cycle. Any more discussion? Mr. Mr. Chair, I would just like to reiterate in the future, please get this to us earlier. All right. Anything? All right. All those in favor of approving the elementary school
100recommendation for McGraw Hill, um the middle school recommendation of SAS, and the high school recommendations for McGraw Hill and Kendall Hunt for the current adoption cycle. raising your right hand. All right. All those opposed. One motion passes five to one for the curriculum approval. I'll get this here in just a minute. All right. That takes us down to budget amendments. We've got two budget amendments. Is there a motion on budget amendment for general purpose fund 141 number 14 items 1 through 30? So move. Is there a second? Any discussion? All right. All those in favor of passing the budget amendment for general purpose fund 141 number 143 show by raising right hand. All those opposed 640 against. Next we got federal purpose fund 142 number eight items one through four. Is there a motion on
101this budget amendment? Any move to approve? Second. Second. Doug second. Any discussion? I do have a question. Yes. Item three uh where it says reallocate funds for Mountain View. What is Mountain View? Mountain View Youth Development uh youth detention center. Okay. So, we were a title one D funds went to them. Um they were a private entity. Uh so, they cannot accept these funds. So, they passed through us and we control them um through federal programs. So since then, Mountain View was taken back over by a state department and title one deed funds were removed and we were allowed to allocate those funds on behalf of our students in the county. So it this is being accepted from Mountain View to benefit our students. Am I it's being reallocated from the um from the state
102department, right? So these are federal funds that passed through the state department that went through us to support the students at Mountain View. Right? So now Mountain View cannot receive these funds. Okay. So they come directly to us. Now they come directly to us for our use. Okay. For this year only. That was my question. Just just this year. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Any other discussion on this? All right. All those uh in favor of approving uh budget amendment for fund 142 number eight items one through four show by raising right hand 64 zero against motion passes and that brings us down to scope commissioner input and Danny you want to reiterate what you was wanting. I just like had more knowledge of what Mr. to talk about just kind of next session so we
103can I mean it's interesting it really is we took a lot of time did a lot of work but you know I'd like for all of us to know what we can So are you looking for a um are you looking for some sort of proposal contract to to begin to look I mean of course I'm going to send those out to you. Um, I'm not going to bring them to the meeting. I'm going to go ahead and send them out to you. Uh, I'll send out the RFQ. U, I think that's important to know whenever we whenever we set that RFQ, then that's our purpose for developing any contract with that agency. just just long as we have more knowledge of what we have. You know, like I said, I don't want to do
104away with with allied or whatever. I just want if we need to to do more, you know, to set more rules or whatever, I'm okay with that, but we just need to talk about RFQ is fine. I I'll go ahead and send you all the stuff we have now with Helen Ross McNav with Allied with and the RFQ that that brought them in or or the state proposal to fund and then also work on maybe something you know if you have input that you want in there then then send those to me so that that I have that knowledge to to develop. Is there is there any way that Mr. Bennett could be at one of these meetings that we discuss this with since he's going to be part of the whole process? I know
105you can't answer. Yeah, I can ask him. Yeah. Um he might have some additional information that he might want to share with us. We'll do we got any more [Music] input announcements? Um, we got April 10th, which is next Thursday special call meeting for the budget 6:30. Where is that here? Put it in the It is. It is here. Okay. So yeah, 6:30 April 10th here in the courtroom. Um, we'll have the special call meeting on the for approval of the budget. Any other announcements? All right. Is there a move to adjourn? Any move? Second. Say all second. All those in favor? Looks like everybody