001we'll call the meet in the order this business session um we'll stand here and have a moment of silence and Pledge of Allegiance and we'll ask cor Cox the with for H come forward and we'll do the Pledge of Allegiance after we have her moment silence thank you for that on up attention salute i al to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all thank you for that good job all right so brings us to public input we have anybody nobody on public all right then that's to the approval of the agenda we got a couple things to add uh under the field trip if you don't mind I think these were laid out for you
002um Jer Kane High School forensic speech and debate probably need to get that approved because they're supposed to leave tomorrow and J County High School mock trial team um those were two field trips that had been added um and just a clarification that didn't get put into the actual agenda but this is for the budget uh agenda um general purpose the number one should read general purpose fund 141 number 12 items 1 through 11 and and that got left off and then budget amendment number two for federal purpose fund 142 number seven items 1 through four that's how that should read once again those just got left off but is there any objections the budget amendments yeah um page two there the first one was one through 11 yeah items 1 through 11 and the
003bottom is number seven items one through four it just got left off of there um but nothing got changed in your actual budget amendment um is there any objection to these additions here none we'll have an unanimous approval everybody approve show by raising your right hand unanimous approval then of the agenda so then brings us two consent agenda items is there a motion to approve all the consent agenda items is there a second Mo I believe Danny has motion and bill has seconded any discussion he none we'll proceed vote all those in favor of approving the consent agenda item show by raising your right hand be seven for zero against thank you on that then we're down to number five committee reports and we'll start with um on policy committee here we have some new
004ones on first reading and then we have some on second reading here and since these are coming from the committee they only need a motion don't need a second so I'm going to turn that over to Mr Doug here all right and the policy committee recommends the following policy revisions for acceptance on first reading uh the first one is policy 6312 use of personal communication devices and electronic devices um on here what we've done is no uh you will notice on the uh proposed agenda there hasn't been any revisions made on our present policy the present policy that's in place is not being changed uh what we have done the major revision here is replacing the existing um how shall I say enforcement procedures for infractions that is now in the student or the uh
005teacher handbook in policy to standardize it throughout the uh you know the district so we're really not changing anything we're just adding that to the policy um there are a couple know word changes uh in um on the first page on number line number three uh students May possess personal communication devices and personal electronic devices devices the devices prior to this is it should be stored uh we are putting must be stored we're suggesting that going down to the uh line number eight under students um what we did is because this hasn't been revised in quite a while and these electronic devices I mean there's a new one every other day it seems like we're just trying to enumerate categories so that we can uh kind of keep up to date so um this we're
006adding including but not limited to Smart devices such as airpods watches Google Glass Etc so we're adding that where it was not there before uh in line 14 uh it used to be prek prek through 5ifth then I believe it was a there was a middle school category we eliminating that putting six through 12 so we're modifying that and then the the first offense second offense all subsequent offenses again that's not a change we're just adding that to policy from the uh from the what it is in the existing handbook on the on page two what we're doing is under the category buses in uh line four we're adding driver SL monitor since now we have monitors and before when we did this we did not have monitors and then number seven we're adding use
007of cameras on personal communication devices is strictly prohibited on school buses so uh this passed the uh policy committee anly so I on first reading I'm so I'm moving that we uh accept this on first reading all right the move's been made to accept this on first reading any discussion he none we'll vote all those in favor of approving 6312 on first reading show by reing right be 74 against all right thank you on that next the next one is uh policy 6.72 student clubs and organizations this was brought to us by commissioner mayor and um I will kind of read kind of just graphically what's on here and then she can add anything if I miss something um what this is doing is we are just uh qualifying the kind of clubs uh there
008there seems to be all kinds of clubs that are not you know used to be the stam club or something like this but there's all kinds of other clubs and we just want to make sure that they are qualified to be in our schools uh what we're doing is we are uh leading that up pretty much to the uh School principal and the director of schools if they say no they do not want a club on campus we are putting in head that there is no further appeal to the board you know they somebody you can't say well I don't agree with that I want the board to see we are cutting that we feel that the principles are the captains of their own ship they know what's best on their campus and if they
009say yes then we would like to have that brought to us very much the same as they bring the field trips that we just see where kids kids are going and stuff like that um accordingly that Dr Arnold there's not going to be that many of these clubs that probably come to our attention and uh as say we're not taking any any control away from the schools if they say no that's it um down number lines 15 through 12 are the qualifications we're asking uh people who have organizations or clubs that they want to establish on the school these are what we want them to know that we expect them to have these can be uh you know it's really up to the principal and the director as to how stly they want to adhere
010with these but we don't want people coming in from some crazy group that we've never heard of we want to be either chartered or Incorporated in the state of Tennessee we want the people who want to have the clubs to be you know adults etc etc etc I don't have to go through all this so that's all I have to say on this m you have anything else to add you coverage just like okay so that being the case uh I move that we adopt this for first reading all right move been made to adop 6.72 on first reading is there any more discussion hearing none vote PA those in favor of approving 6.72 on first reading so by raising your right hand seven for zero against all right now we are on to second
011reading second reading these uh the following policy revisions were passed on first reading and are recommended for adoption as policy on second reading um the first one has agenda if you'll remember that is the that agenda is just uh being included we not no changes being made to 1.43 that's just here for reference um number two 1404 appeals to an appearances before the board this changes the uh public uh appearance to allowing public input at the work session uh on any item that relates to the school district and restricts the public input at the business meetings to items on the agenda uh this is Tas first and I move that it be adopted on second so move Mr chair all moov been made to pass 1.44 on second reading is there any discussion all right
012here then we'll proceed vote all those in favor of approving 1.44 on second reading show by raising your right hand 74 Z again next one is 405 this changes the rule of order what this does is this adds the pledge and a moment of silence to our work session it also moves the budget amendment uh where it's placed in our agenda from where it is presently to uh new business uh after new business so move Mr chairman been moved to approve 1.45 on second reading any discussion none we'll vote all those in favor of approving 1.4 five on second read and show by raising right hand all those oppos be six to one the next is number uh policy 4.63 promotion and retention 4.20 special education what's that 422 I think they got out special
013education how you go she I don't have that that's not on my uh that's allation what is that now 4.22 okay special education yeah thank you just I know we passed this on first first reading uh just go by the agenda that that's fine yeah it it was passed on first reading I do not have the specifics here it was added uh some a initial um questionnaire to parent oh the question of par and the exit interview yes after the uh okay the meeting um so that was added in there uh We've since reviewed some of those procedures and just recommend that that be added so that everyone is in the know of of the procedures so move Mr CH been move been made to approve 4202 on second reading any discussion uh on that
014I know that there was uh talk about when that would possibly be implemented um is there any way that that could be implemented sooner than next school year I mean I and the only reason why I say that is I know a lot of these annual IEPs are starting to come through usually at the end through mid April through May um and I just think this is very import for the parents to have a voice you know I we have you're talking about 50 some teachers across 12 different schools need this implemented um so the main thing is that we get it right um you know once we start something um the way we start it is is usually the way that it continues so um I I need at least 30 days at at
015a minimum to um get in front of teachers U to have our people to direct them principles um and make sure that we're all on the same page of when we send this out how we send it out how we collect it on both ends of pre- meeting of post post meting so so if this passes today I'd ask for at least uh you know mid April to to get this implemented um as now there being two different forms the one would be a parental input which would be the way I was liken to see this done would be it' be put into uh when there's a um an IEP meeting notice and that would be included on that um and then as soon as the meeting is over and that and then that that
016can be turned in at the meeting um and then when the meeting is over they're handed a physical form that's a parental survey basically just kind of reviewing over what they thought about the meeting and um and then you know then they can then that's up to the parents if they want to turn it in or even fill it out I I maybe it was yeah all all forms would have multiple modes of completion if they wanted to complete a hard copy and turn it in if they want to complete an online form and turn it in uh we would send a link we would probably send a QR code um so that you know they have the capabilities for whatever mode they they find most convenient for them to complete pleas any more discussion
017all right hear none we'll vote all those in favor of approving 4.22 on second reading show by raising your right hand s for Z against okay policy 4.63 promotion and retention this is a policy revised to comply with the updated state regulations some move Mr move's been made to approve 4.63 on second reading any discussion all right we'll vote all those in favor approving 4.63 on second read show by raising your right hand be seven4 zero against policy 5118 background investigations again policy revised to comply with present state law so move Mr chairman move's been made to approve 5118 on second reading any discussion we'll proceed to vote all those in favor of approving 5118 on second reading so by raising your right hand s for Z against policy 5302 s leave this is to
018allow sick leave roll over unused sick leave rollover from one year to another for school bus drivers and monitor so move Mr chair who been made to approve 5302 on second reading I thought that was just ke all right Daddy D hear none for the discussion all those in favor approving 5.32 on second reading show by raising your right hand 740 against uh policy 5303 what we are adding a personal professional gement of mever adding grandchildren to the coverage some move Mr chairman move been made to approve 5.33 on second reading any discussion we'll proceed to vote all those in favor of approving 5303 on second reading by raising your right hand 74 and z uh policy 6319 alternative education policy revised to reflect State Law changes so move Mr chairman move been made to
019approve 6.31 9 on second reading any discussion all those have in favor approving 6.31 n on second reading TR by raising your right hand 74 Z against uh policy 6.41 student surveys policy change due to State Law changes so move Mr chairman move has been made to approve 6.41 on second reading any discussion hear none all those in favor of approving 6.41 on second read and show by raising your right hand 7 for Z against policy 106431 pediculosis headlight update policy ref current treatment standard so move return move's been made to approve 6431 on second reading any discussion all right all those in favor approving 6.4 z31 on second reading show by raising your right hand hear that 70 thank you for all that um next portion is just a a report from uh the
020building maintenance committee chairman Mr Paul Hardy so I'll turn the floor over to him thank you uh yeah we met on uh February 25th two weeks ago on Tuesday and sorry uh yeah we met uh on Tuesday February 5th um we had a lot of I think productive input from everybody and uh some of the things that was discussed was um uh possibly looking at how the maintenance is set up is maybe needing um doing more of a a maintenance um crew versus having just individual maintenances guys at each School um another thing that was discussed was U you know doing um kind of like a a time sheet of of each individual job they work on throughout the day more of an accountability time sheet um to kind of see where their time is
021being spent on different types of projects they're working on um and uh maybe using that as kind of a incentive for uh maybe not a bonus but maybe you know you look when it comes time for a you know pay raises stuff like that um anyway so there were several things that were brought up one of the concerns that there was made was um how we direct traffic in front of the schools uh in the safety of the Personnel doing it um I know that like at the high school we have you know Mr Rogers the principal out there um on Dublin Valley I believe there's another principal or somebody another School employee and how that could maybe contribute to being a liability versus having actual police uh out there we may need to look
022at maybe something um in can maybe try to bring it to the board is um maybe hiring um Personnel that will actually come in and do that in the morning in the evening um because the the thought was that if there is an accident these people aren't properly trained and then I think that we could be actually looking at a liability um because using them non-trained Personnel uh I do know that um I think it was brought to my attention like white pine I think the um the police out there used to do a lot of the the road the the traffic control and I think this year they no longer do it I know down in uh front of Jefferson Elementary and Jefferson Middle they do and we really appreciate Jefferson City supplying that
023um so this maybe something that we need to look at as a board is possibly um especially with budget time coming up maybe something of adding this position so um overall though I think that uh there was a lot of positive input um from most all the members and uh the engagement went well another thing that we thought about doing was instead of doing this quarterly there may be a lot of time you know maybe not a lot of stuff get done takes to slow um maybe we might start meeting monthly at least in the beginning and then you as as we kind of progress into the uh the committee meetings we can maybe start stretching it back out so these are just different things that were kind of thrown up um Dr Arnold wasn't
024there so um it's kind of hard to throw some ideas off to him at the time but I do have a meeting set up with Dr Arnold and Mr Bridgewater and um you know we'll discuss a lot of this stuff and and uh you know see how that goes the other thing that was a seemed to be maybe a problem was the time we met was 4:30 may kind of crunch into some of these people who actually do go to work I know we had one gentleman comes from a bridge somebody else comes from Dollywood I mean that's that's quite a travel time to get there someplace at 4:30 so we may have to adjust that um and maybe make it a little bit more feasible for some community members that just want to come
025in and sit in on the meetings um so I me that's pretty much about what I have for that um I app apprciate uh commissioner Bradley being part of that did you have anything you want to add to that well it looks like yes um traffic control uh One Source would be constables I know they've done that before particular Mari we might want to reach out to those first you know but a good idea hiring somebody my only thoughts for I believe Mori the person director traffic is U part of the maintenance department am I correct on that so uh you know I'd rather be doing maintenance I'm sure also would like to have him on the job at 7:00 say uh and of course I go through that school long law and and d
026johnon uh the only thing too it's a little misleading there's a police car sitting over there and you see the guy out in the middle of the road well they don't M she's not a policeman but he's got a police car there uh so it's um a little confusing and it could be um like you said and I brought that up a liability issue they've not had any training in directing traffic or croud control or whatever and a School employee and they're on a state road right now I can see uh on school grounds right no problem but once once you hit a County Road or a state road and an action occurs or even somebody hit that person say what we do now right who's responsible for his well wellbeing and so I just
027you know God forbid something happens but you got to look to the Future bit but thank you for letting me speak that's all I got well and I think the other thing too kind of spinning off of what uh commiss Bradley said was um you know when you're talking about a principle out there doing that you know the resource officer that may be outside the school if something happens within the school who is in charge that's inside who can who can deal with that and that was another concern that we I me personally I don't think the resource officers that should be out of way from the school they should be inside the walls or inside the fence or something I mean yeah early in the mornings and night is when things could possibly could
028happen I mean there's no evidence of that but um another thing we discussed I believe I I mentioned the chain of command if anybody need anything with the maintenance department Austin uh they need to go to this guy here because Austin works for him right and if you have any request just get in contact with the director he's more than well at work with us I think he's exhibited that and anything you need he'll get it for you but uh but to put pressure on them said and Tommy probably knows what more of the documents are than Austin would and that way Austin can do his job he started at what time 5:00 in the morning you told me that you about 5 or is it earlier now I start 5 6 ear he's drinking
029I know he does 7 days a week if needed but you don't get up till 6:30 in the morning either do you no he's he's doing a good job I would like to say that yeah we don't like to direct traffic I mean that's not something we like to do you know we had a a school security vehicle ran over at Dandridge sitting in the road by an individual and uh but you have to remember also Dandridge has two officers on duty and three schools uh the high school Dand Elementary and Mar within their jurisdiction so um you know it either comes the point of traffic gets directed or or doesn't um but you know well the high schol not something we want to do then then we just do away with well the high
030school's got red light and I've seen them work and it goes pretty good so that does not the only thing if an officer was out there is to catch somebody speeding in schools uh as far as that the red lights kind of take care of everything now down you know exiting the school might be a different different kind of story uh but uh you know you know we probably like I said earlier had to repeat myself my the first people to contact the constables you know uh they got elected for a reason and and the people on I know me the conso is at danridge I voted for him and he was out there welome I think he had illness or something that did remember his name Jerry co co that his name a long
031time ago a new one yeah got but anyway just a thought it was a good like uh Mr hardy said it was a good meeting it was a little long we may have to put it I'm going to bring an egg timer next time so but there was a lot of discussion you know and a lot of times uh we didn't that and you know uh things got going you know and and I couldn't keep up with it all but there were some good ideas thrown out there but those ideas need to be by you or me representing the board channeled to the director of schools and then he can bring them to us and we can sip through them and sort them out what we want to do right if basically what I was
032telling them uh was anything that they an idea they had and it required money there about only one time during the year that that can happen and we're getting ready to start the budget season after that you know we can't we got to have a balanced budget and like the federal government I don't want to be derogatory but they do tend to spend more than they have you know we got we got to stay within limits and so if we get it if if there's a good idea pops out we need to run it through the finance director and director of schools and get it funded and go from there it's just the way it is you know so I try to explain that to them and and but I like hearing all these ideas
033you guys fired up on that yeah then so I guess you could be the bouncer move one I don't which if it's really heated you know I I thought maybe once or twice it was going to happen I'll bring my stick next time you know and the meeting started a little bit slow I think there was a lot of hesitation on people on not knowing what to say and you know you you have a mix of school um officials and private citizens and uh you know I think once it started going with one topic specifically it kind of got a little bit off topic um we saw a lot of Engagement happened and and and so I let it go for a little bit and it really produced a lot of Engagement from everybody then
034we kind of had to kind of bring it all back in um but then once that happened it kind of got moving but yeah it did it did kind of stretch out one one thing we are going that I U think that we need to get and and I reached out to uh the one lady was um somebody to kind of keep track of the discussion points that we had and so we kind of have more of a meeting minutes and then she can kind of round up at the end with the things that we had discussed and um and then like coach said somebody kind of say hey let's keep on track you know um because we can get we get going I think it you know I really didn't want it to go
035too long I think we were there two hours well it passed quick until I got out in the Jeep and I said I been this long you know one thing I did notice uh we had what eight people you besides you and me and Aus director eight more uh I think those people that showed up for the meeting I think there were one half they were quite excited to be there and be included okay and and they and at the end of the day some of them were teachers you know and probably would rather have been house but they were there and and they were throwing things out there and that that was good so the committee is a good idea I'm done you know we can move on you well and I just just
036to end it um I do know that uh we we got approved the assistant maintenance supervisor um it got approved back in uh January through the County Commission and it has been posted this week and it'll run for 10 days so hopefully we'll get some interest in that and uh until then we'll just see what happens Mr chairman one I just wanted to mention our next policy committee meeting is uh August 25th I know that because that's my anniversary and I'll be spending it with the policy remember good boy be single after that but who knows but but however just if anybody wants to bring a policy to the committee prior to that you have do is let us know if if it's urgent we can call a special meeting if not the next one
037is August 25th all right thank y'all appreciate y'all doing that committee and all the folks that came out I'm sure as things goes on people gets more familiar and everything will there's no telling hopefully it'll be a really productive thing for us all right so then that brings us now to the budget amendments here so we have two um once again I I'll reiterate the the additions to it that got left off general purpose fund 141 number 12 items 1 through 11 and um Federal purpose fund 142 number seven items 134 so is there a motion on the first budget amendment motion been made to approve by and we have second by PA any discussion I have a question yeah uh the item one on fund 141 for the science book is that for the
038books is that the science books that we're reviewing this year is this money for those uh yes that is money that we we are recognizing U so the money is there yes we're just recognizing it into an expenditure line and it is for the science book it is for the science B thank you anything I do have a question are we actually using these books because I I'm hearing more and more we're moving away from books and doing more on the computers we actually so there's multiple ways to purchase uh books um just as anybody in this room um some people choose to read a book some people have a Kindle read it off a Kindle some people have audio books and hear it um so books have a multitude of of modes that they
039can be accessed um so this in the past Jaron County schools has bought books so we bought a reading uh Edition we bought a math Edition and I don't know what direction this will go but um we we normally buy books actually online uh books are more expensive than hardback uh books because just the adaptations that can happen from year to year change so um I don't know we're kind of old school um but we we do buy books now the there was you mentioned about using computers I don't remember the last science adoption to tell you the truth I I mean it's probably been 15 years ago that there was I don't even know the last science adoption so teachers were using resources that we didn't provide them that's one thing that we want
040to get away from is is is teachers having to go out and get their own resources number one that doesn't protect them against state law that that they need to remain on the curriculum uh using the standards and not deviate from um so we need to provide them that curriculum any other discussion on this ex all right hearing none we'll proceed to vote all those in favor of approving general purpose fund 141 number 12 items 1 through 11 show by raising right hand seven for and zero against is there a motion in regards to Federal purpose fund 142 have a move by Danny is there a second second by call any discussion all right all those in favor of approving Federal purpose fund 142 number 7 items 1 through four show by raising right all
041right no unfinished business that brings us down to new business we got six it items under here um three resolutions certified employees recommend for 10 year property behind toell and J um is there a move to approve resolution number two number 225-1368 those has seconded any discussion hearing none all those in favor of approving resolution number 202536 student nutrition surplex overing gr hand s for zero against Mo passes hear a motion on resolution number 2025 d137 Transportation Serv so Mr hardy has moved to approve is there second no second I do want to note that this uh vehicle has been um asked for by the highway department um so it has some issues that we're not going to repair so um it's scrap for us they have their own U mechanics at the highway department
042and I think that they actually maybe have an engine that they're going to put in so that's where this vehicle's going that was a question I was going to ask what to us all right any more discussion on this one all right we'll vote all those in favor of approving resolution number 2025 d137 Transportation Surplus Show by raising your right hand s for and zero against motion passes next one to hear motion to approve resolution number 2025 138 technology Surplus got a move by Danny is there second second second by do any discussion yes I just have a question I just was going through this I just noticed a lot of laptops and um just a lot of different uh computers and stuff um I understand they kind of get old they F out or
043whatever where do these end up going do they get pour apart how does that work we have a ecycle company that picks them up uh they yeah it's kind of like our light bulbs um fluorescent light bulbs that we had you know it cost $1.97 to buy them and $4 to throw them away uh so the E cycle yeah she can speak a little bit about that she loves to get some air time the camera um so the laptops like if parts of them are broken and we can't repair them anymore we will take them for parts and and scrap the rest um some are just like not Windows 11 compatible anymore so they've been swapped out for devices that are um but we do have an e cycling company out of Knoxville that comes
044and picks up our our surus and they will give us a certificate of for our hard drives showing that they've been disposed of properly that's thank I do have one other question so I noticed all of these and list of usually at schools and stuff like that that the stuff comes from are these just as as the year goes on or whatever they get kind of turned in one at a time or is this something where they just said okay you know I don't 12th grade these are all gone we're going to give you all new ones so let's see last year we mostly replaced sixth seventh and eighth grade laptops just to bring in new ones that were Windows 11 compatible okay so middle schools all have new ones uh fifth grade we did
045this year so that's probably what a lot of are as well um we're getting ready to replace fourth grade and then all the ones that we' pulled back that we can put 11 on we're going to put out to third grade so everybody because by October everybody has to be on 11 um so we should be able to have everybody on 11 after over the summer appreciate thank and high school's already been done anything else all right all those in favor of approving resolution number 225-1387 for and zero against and that brings us to certified employees recommended for 10 years there a motion on this list move by Denny to approve the list of certified employes p is there second Paul second any discussion on these all right hearing none we'll vote all those in
046favor of approving the list of certified employees recomment for 10 raising your right hand for zero against that brings us down to the property behind Tober Elementary I'm going to let the director talk about this for just a second and then we'll so there's a little bit of property that joins U Tab Elementary it has a older house on the property um it's located on the the name just left me the road the nor W Pine Road um and it's located past the ball field playground on the back side of the property um one thing is you know we're getting ready to start a renovation um we're get you know we're going to need a lay down um that that it's kind of tight in that in that school um so we do have a
047use for this property um also that school is on a drip field um you know if you ever need to relocate some additional um lines or anything thing uh could be useful um so I would put that it it is you know we bought the property down at at rush strong um it didn't have a house setting on it so so that's adds a little bit of value to it um right now the um owner first price to Austin she had done some research look at market value of of high highs and lows um came up with about a a price of 150,000 um so that that would be a first offer um I would imagine um if you if you move for us to uh to go after some this property we would need
048roughly about um you know I would feel comfortable at 10,000 addition dollars added to that to be able to have you know any survey closing cost those type things but you know to me up to you all as far as that in that it's a little under an acre um off the top you remember Austin I me it's a it's a hair under an acre I'm going to say 3/4 of an acre um we going demolish the house right gone yeah we would oh yeah kind of like at rush strong where we bought that property demolished the fence that building's still there uh we'll get to that sometime but um so really for us that house would add add no value to us for that property no no we not going to we not going
049to get in the business of being a landlord we just want the property use yeah like if you so choose we would just turn that into the initial uh start of of a building project there here soon as equipment comes in we' load everything out um clear that property uh clear the fencing clear the scrub brush probably rock it and uh use it as a lay down yard for uh steel block brick water equipment um a good staging area right yeah has a access drive into it um already so so there's some benefits there uh that could definitely help us because that's where we want to access um the renovation so cost to get our own um survey down and cost you cost test oh I'd say to get a survey done well not survey
050but for us to get an estimate of the value of the land I mean apparently the owner done their research and came up with a number so uh is there somebody we use or have used you know what I'm talking about yeah we got a lot of connections with some um realators um that would would that would actually estimate the value I mean yeah and just in talking you know I don't feel like that it's an astronomical price feel like it's a fair market value U you know I think it's a little bit on the higher end of the fair market value um but I mean it's no different than I mean stuff's expensive you know um down there where I live just the other day there was a a single wide trailer on a
0513/4 acre property sold for $185,000 U you I looked at it I thought maybe 120 uh but I mean somebody wants it they buy it well I think we need to understand that they're selling it with the house so if they sold it to somebody they're selling it as the house yeah you know I mean it sounds like a lot 34 even if it was one acre you're saying wow $150,000 for an acre if we don't get it someone's going to move into that we need to understand that it's not that it's that much for 3/4 of an acre you know and the thing is you know we may throw out price if you so choose I mean just as we went to rush drone I mean you know we're not we're just seeing if
052that's something you want to it's up to you you all make that decision and you know if you so choose we'll make it happen I like to see Austin negotiate with them and come back with the price on it and go from there I don't think would you just jump up we're going to take for $150,000 I think I think you should negotiate with them and and talk to them and and go from there yeah and I don't think we should get any real estate people involved in until he talks and comes back to us one one thing I just want you to be aware of is um anything you do has to go in front of County Commission which meets in April um which our next meetings in in April is as far this
053before their next meeting is it not um and that is a time frame to get something in front of budget and before the the full commission so that time frame is tricky uh without without approval so um also just bottom line is if it doesn't happen in April then May's too late for us to you L what your idea as to how to handling yeah that's what I I think if you approve a use of fund we'll you know we'll stay under that amount and just tell them so if you approve right now 100 blank amount of money you know if you approve 150 we'll just go back to them and say hey this is what we got uh you know we we like to buy for 135 then that'll cover our cost and we
054can go from there U you know it's it's totally up to you uh what you feel comfortable with I I personally um want to see us get that property and it would really help with that renovation um if not we're going to be laying down where the kids play and we're going to cram them into a a small amount of of um they already kind of strained up there for space so yes sounds like a lot of money uh we're going to be there for 2 years close to it 18 months anyway what kind of house is it a brick house or frame house or what house just 1960 remember so it's got a cross Space Foundation oh yeah so is this is this something they're definitely going to put on the market if we
055don't buy this or is this something they just offered to us yeah we found out that she might possibly want to sell U so we went to her um I I do not know the intent of moving forward on the property kind of like that property at rush strong they were going to put it on the market but offered it to us prior to um so um fitted us there oh yeah parking and it's only going to get better um same type of thing as far as um you know at at T um The Rush strong property ended up closing through church U Larry Church well U so um there's a uh there's that usually takes about three to four weeks um to finalize everything is there somebody living in it right now no but
056the house is but it's livable it is livable they have to get all their stuff I'm just going to be straight out here with you this is my wife's aunt and she had they've moved to when when her mother passed away they're living in their house now and if the people that live beside her are possibly if if we don't move they want to move so the farm decide them and I had just she said something me I said I'll let Tommy know about it and I'll pull myself out of the equation and I think one thing we need to really consider this very serious because if if we don't move on it and she does de sell to decide to sell it and it sounds like it's a just a matter of time you
057don't know who buys it and there's a house I'm going to use up there at rest strong there talk that you know it worries me it's a rental property and it's it's not a good scenario right there in my opinion and uh so I I think that we really you need to consider this if for anything not just the construction side of this but if if we don't move on it and and we could use this um you know like I said you know my concern is you know if it becomes rental property for something like that you have no control over who's going to be in that house and that kind of worries me with school grounds well Dr did you not also say that you know after the renovation has done this could
058possibly be used to help the drop off and pick up traffic flow I know that Mr jigan had requested that we consider in the renovation uh traffic flow and uh you know the any the sheriff uh the Constable up there they all want cars off the road there's just not much we can do right now with what we have so um anything would help it's an option I don't we've not studied it Beyond a place for a lay down yard and and space to be able to get uh access to you know that guard rail comes almost all the way up our property and and the state won't allow was to move that and uh so to be able to get that access to that end of the property it would be beneficial uh go
059ahead should I mean I feel like this is something Dr was concerned about feels like we can use it it will benefit us I kind of feel like we need to uh go by what this gentleman says and make a mo to approve him to to buy this property I would just need to mail and uh and and source and you know like we said we feel like that it would be no more than than right around you know um we could secure the problem I might Mr chairman um I'll support anything this school is in your District your District I I'll support anything that is agreeable with you two on the price of that property I'm not familiar with it that much and uh so whatever figure you all want to make a motion
060I I'll support you um is the property a zone for agriculture resal does it um I couldn't find I looked I couldn't see it I don't know I know it wasn't in the green belt um I know it's not um you know any type of industry or that nature um I would imagine it's just a what would be considered residential l find anything when I looked at it yesterday I guess the question would be with with the zoning of it whether it's A1 or har would that preclude us using it as a staging area no okay no no we're not building anything on it right so you know I I don't there's it's not as if there's somebody right next to it that would it would imped impede upon there property rights or anything of
061that nature it's Farmland those Cals wouldn't care yeah as long as long as there's nothing that would exclud from mus for what we want and that would be temporary uh that purpose would be temporary while the construction went on it doesn't have anything it says land use code zoning it doesn't have anything next to it yeah there's not I don't have any concerns there not putting anything on the property so would that have any effect on the price depending on it definitely would if it was you know similar to The Rush strong property you know you're looking at a a you know roughly a $335,000 lot versus that down at rush strong was a commercial $120,000 lot so but uh you know just being a residential lot you're just standard type price of you know
062somewhere between 25 to 30,000 $35,000 lot for a building law he made a motion I'll second that motion who made the mo Danny made a motion I'll second that motion I think we're stayed right at 150,000 I do I think that you negotiate talk to them and whatever they work out report back to it many up to 150,000 from fund balance yes all right that motion been made by Danny and seconded by Bill any more discussion he get to go first so I may missed it $150,000 that incl then uh uh the Demolition and survey and all that we're not going to spend more than $150,000 correct is that what you intended we might roll the demo into the uh uh talet project whenever they bring that equipment in and they start to lay down
063and diging Footers and take it put it in a dumpster Hall to the Landfield well I know but I'm saying $150,000 is that just for the property is that what you intended so they were're going to have to them more money to demolish we ain't coming back for money huh we ain't coming back for money who's going to pay for demolition we might roll that into the uh to the addition at tal there's a contingency in the addition I understand they still will pay an extra so what I'm saying say what I'm saying is $150,000 includes going where else demolition surveys all regor needed everything we're not going to spend more than $150,000 for the land and all the other things that go with it is what I everything is that what you intended or
064yes yeah there might be some additional demo cost whenever we get but that would come out of the talet renovation cost I understand s prep yeah is what you're talking about I'm but what I'm saying is you know we're going closing cost like you said surveys we got to tear a house down and I think all that that $150,000 if that's what you intended then I'm fine with it because and then s trip obviously would come from somewhere else yes right okay that what we're doing I'll go ahead and v wait on the rest any other discussion anything all right so uh I just want to clarify what uh commissioner bradle was saying um that 150 is going to cover the survey the title all that kind of stuff the purchase of the land the
065house but he's wanting it to also cover the demolition as well of the house yes but I didn't make a motion the Dem I was just asking the question what did that $150,000 pay for the 150,000 I made a motion for would be by the house to survey and to close them not to demolition the demition come that will come after that yeah whenever we have equipment on site we'll just roll it into the so we don't have purchase yes the surveys whatever it takes to actually acquire the land yeah we don't currently have a bid on talin ele project we don't even have a scope of work yet so we could run this into the scope of work whenever they have that equipment there and and and it would be much less of a
066cost than the just bring a company in to do this right right yeah I just want to make sure because I don't think that they're going to go for that price and now that that would put that on on the people we're buying from in the demoing it you know um but as long as it doesn't include the demo just the purchase and all the cost to purchase the land then I'm okay with that I just want to clarify before I thing I was just asking well I got a little confused yeah I know I I got a little confused does includ I'm still fine the house the house may move to his place so he can stay I'm fine with that yeah I might need a place to go need to check so so
067I'm curious has the house ever been updated anything updated in it does it still have all the original H the original paint meaning as is you know lead or anything like that because that would add to the D I'm sure there's probably a little bit of asbest is in there um so lead that doesn't concern me um the asbes would be minimal U you know we didn't run into an issue at R strong um there's nobody around um the property is quite away from the main school to yeah yeah it would not affect any of that um it'll be a summer type project so um you know you're only talking about goly was it500 Square fet so you're talking about a a small space the one that we P down at rest strong was built
068in 1940 and we run into very little there no problems at all on that yeah I don't know what the duck work is what the gips and board is but that'll be the we can put we can put that into the total project scope of work and stuff I mean that'll take care all that yes yes I I don't know how how to say this but would it be an order to ask Josh not to vote I'm not going on this on the account and I think he understands and we understand and everybody understands knowing Josh he wouldn't do anything out of order but it would be an out of order to ask if you not vote on this not do itain on personal interest thank you thank you jge any other discussion all right
069all those in favor of move to use $150,000 from fund balance to purchase the property behind tobert Elementary School by raising your right [Music] hand and then one exension on personal interest so the motion passes six zero with one abion all ready all right and then that brings us to number six jff Elementary School Mr chairman yes sir I move to contract with blank ship and partners for the renovation of Jefferson Elementary School for a total project cost not to exceed $23,600 th000 okay you got this now Mr chairman yes sir order yes please I was hoping I wouldn't have to do this he's not even but there's a a a motion in forced on Jon Elementary School and this motion would be out of order and I ask that you rule it out of
070order for that reason because we have adopted Robert's Rules of Order that basically States in there that if the motion's in order you can't take any more action on that so motion is in order I think was made my day in 2021 like March the 5th or something for and motion was to build one new J Elementary School and remodel Pont and then we interviewed hired an architect Lewis group motion was made to hire them a construction manager we got schematic drawings and then from those drawings we got a number uh funding amount so there's a there's a motion in place concerning Jeff elementary school so this motion is out of order so what happened I've mentioned this before what has to happen is that motion uh um a new J Elementary School needs to
071be put on the agenda and if you want to resend it or amend it or whatever you can but you got to follow a rule then by doing that then I and you know it's a seven day we've set that precedent you might say of advertising needs to be advertised because I've heard from a lot of you you want more public input well how can the public put input into this if we've already done away with it some people might want to come come up that Podium and speak against this motion say and it was not first first of all it was not on dis je Elementary if it you know if it said je Elementary remodeling follow me you got you know you got to be susp but in my opinion and it's my
072opinion but you're the P pity and but I in my opinion and Robert's Rules of Order that motion is out of order because we have we have a motion that's in force Mr chairman ask today I'll let you speak okay um my take on this is this has nothing to do with a new school this has to do with the renovation therefore the motion for a new school does not apply to this uh the motion for a new school has been on the books for 3 to four years now no action has been taken on the new school part of it uh because that has to do with the new school and not with the renovation apply to this so I don't think we need to resend that motion can I respond sir yes sir
073I'll let you it's the same scope and it doesn't matter how long that motion been on the book it's the motion that's enforced and it is enforced and it has gone far enough now if we had not hired an architect and they had not done schematic drawing and come up with it an amount then it would not be enforced because we've made some motions pass on building elementary school but we never follow it through and other most were made but since we have and Roberts Rules of Order actually if there's a motion in Force and and then you it is about the same school it's still the same school but it's not I know it's not it's not about the but it's still the same school and there's a motion to build a new school
074and this is you can't do anything else until that motion is gone I disagree so if we don't follow our rules and set an example of following Robert's rulle order and let people come and speak and know what we're doing then follow me there's there's people probably would like to come and speak but they had no knowledge of this o motion being made tonight Jefferson Elementary was on our work session we had nobody show up Jefferson Elementary is on our business session nobody showed up they've had ample time to come and speak this business session and on here it the simply says Jon elementary school that's right if it said jff Elementary School remodeling or if it had the motion on here to resend I'm sure some of the people would have come so jeffon
075Elementary School even I didn't know what was going to happen tonight I got the agenda I show up you know what's going to happen say uh but it's up to him to to uh make a decision I've called for a point of order and I asked him to uh rule this motion out of order and that it be placed on the agenda at the next meeting and you have to put the the motion on their verbatim as it is in the minutes and then we can vote it down or resend it or amend it or whatever when I left the house Carol said don't say anything you get be we can get in front of it that call special call what do you have to say I have a whole lot to say but this
076motion is out of order completely there is not a price on remodeling it we don't even have a figure we just have some fig gave to us and you don't even have an exact pict how much it takes to remodel I've heard so many people so many comments our board is made up now of four to three vote regardless of what happens are we going to sit back and take it that way are we going to support the community or we going to support the for Doug you want yeah um based upon that uh I believe this would be more apt to be dealt with at a special call meeting so I'll withraw the motion thank you all right that motion's been withdraw short this a short review but I I do agree that it
077is different in that new and REM model but in Robert Rules of Order you are wanting to change an action voted on at an earlier meeting so you're wanting to change the action of a new build to a renovation and I do just in three minutes feel like that that would take a resending of a current motion to change the action um of course I'll check with your your attorney and uh and just verify that I'm sure so I hate not having an answer but but I I'll check on that just so we can be clear and everything on you know last thing we want to do is make a step that gets thrown out and and not approved well then I would like to put on the next meeting we have whether it's regular
078meeting or special call meeting of resending that action resending that action that former action and put on a motion for R Json elementary school thank you for that is there anything else regards um I'm going respond to what Comm J ber just said by um actually stating a 4 to3 sighting when there hasn't been any kind of voting done on that and that to me sounds a little bit out of order um that's you know to me that would almost be insinuating that he already knows what a vot would take place that hasn't been taken place yet too um and I think that we need to be careful about doing that kind of stuff in hopes of um making people vote a certain way so um I I'll just I'll leave it at that um
079I do understand what you're saying um I will just say though that when I spoke with the tsba lawyer when I was out there in November he said that that motion can sit on the table and you never have to remove because what you're doing is remodeling which is considered a maintenance which means that we can't do any maintenance on that if we decide to do nothing would be would be basically what I'm hearing is we'd be out of line to even go in and change Windows or repair doors um I've got a list of all the stuff from 2020 on and the very last thing in that list was a Pont remodel which is under maintenance so with that being said I would you know from what he's told me was if we remodel
080it that doesn't mean that down the line we still can't build a new and that motion would be still there to build a News 5 years 10 years 20 years if I may Mr chairman I'd like to rebuttle what he said we don't have to make a motion or hire a construction manager or an architect to go in and change doors and windows and that's something the maintenance department can do without any kind of action at all uh you can call it what you want to call it but when you go in there and totally remodel then that motion that was made would require than us to uh interview Architects or construction managers schematic drawings which we haven't seen I've not really seen anything but 245 so that requires a motion but to repair the
081building and this replace windows is not remodeling all right it's he's withdrawn it I think good now let me let me clarify what he asked because what he asked to be put on the the agenda yes so the motion has has to be stated the original motion and you need to make sure you get the right one first of all um the first motion I don't have the dates the first motion was made to build two new elementary schools that wasn't funded and it wasn't funded because we hadn't hired an architect had no schematic plans and no number and I understood that I didn't think of the past either and I think Mr Martin I'm not sure not either that's why I'm not huh I'm not for sure either that's why yeah I know I'm
082saying I mean I didn't I didn't look this up befor because I didn't know that remod motion be made i' had more information but something I think is March of 2021 somewhere in that time R then we put that motion on the agenda and then the motion was made to remodel Jeff uh pedmont never thinking that that would happen first honestly in my opinion and we trying to build Jeff an elementary school and that was the motion that was made and then we proceeded through the interview process instruction manager schematic drawings and then got a quote okay I think a 195 and the board sent it to the County Commission that's the process okay okay I have a I have AAL motion right here you like to see you see it uh it was for
083$1,600,000 to be added to the $7 million from fund balance was a total of 26.6 that motion was made as faal call meeting in June 27th and for a person to sit here and say let's py let buy a new car we can get that new car for $26 million I'd really have this hold for 24 let's think about it man I mean I may have said things out of order I apologize I did but think about what we're done I mean 26 million to build a brand new building but we going to buy a new car buy an old car for 24 million some don't who make did I make that motion or I believe that was commissioner P at the time was it not I have I have two of them in here
084that was made if you read them both I can read them all I'd rather just have a copy of that if I could I think ronda's got yeah we'll research we G you you go to the school website in under minutes and you look it up I didn't know this going to be made i' had them already print out for well when I asked for them I got March April June was there July wasn't there August was there and then it was another one was made in September so I'm missing 3 months in between those other ones and I'm really having a hard time figuring out how we jump from one all the way to something else that's what I was telling you the one you need to find is the one that just simply
085says there's no dollar amount attached to it is I don't exactly how worded is to remodel pedmont and build a new jar Elementary School and there was no dollar amount attached to it at all so and it passed so then we had to interview Architects construction managers and schematic drawing so the the motion you're looking for Ronda needs to look for uh is that just that motion that says remodel Pont and Bill and new Jeff Elementary and there's no dollar amount or anything else attached to it but in the minutes it doesn't exactly say the exact motion made that's the problem that I have and I asked for exact that's what I had asked for was the was the motion made I'd like to see the motion made I made that I made that here
086and it was given out hold on hold on everybody could be my wife no don't talk to them I know what you say I'm you well let me finish okay what I had asked for was what I wanted was the motion that was made which one because you talked about one and 215 you said which one well we we all thought there was only one I told you which one okay listen what what I what I would like to know is the exact word for word motion that was made to make us get us into the position we're at right now so that we can decide to either resend which he's put on there or decide not to I okay okay we will have those we have a work session April 3D no we got
087a work session on March 24th then we have our business session on April 3rd and then we've actually got a special call on on April 10th so April 21st work session those should be in the pack or March 24th session that should be in the package you know what you're requesting you know make sure you get it to the director and that way it's it's in there there can be some discussion about it then and then whatever needs to be put on then for ascending that'll be plenty enough time to seven days you got to advertise so that one two three four five six seven that'd be PL enough time so right that take care of it so any school commissioner input I would like to personally thank you from Rich my heart for your
088all attitude towards my brother and family I really appreciate I just like to say Mr chairman I'm not stiring aart don't get wrong no no I feel like you know follow the rules if that's what it is if you you know if You' have said no the motion good then you you me uh but if we put this out there maybe it'll Spar more interest we'll have people come to speak about Remar I don't know I don't know who wants walk from J City I'm not heard anything I don't know how to vote i' just like to say Mr jonan made a statement that no matter how it goes it's four to three I know we're the ones that's been on the board the longest I know that uh I've only been on five years
089sometimes I wish I hadn't been on any but anyway you know I don't have a I don't have a problem at all to build this new school I love seeing you but I don't have a problem to remodel whichever way that I feel like we need to go I'm Bo so it's not really 4 to three it's not really 5 to2 it could be seven and0 if we work this right um so you know my heart sit here waiting say whichever way we need to go I'd like to do one last one last I spoke 15 who's keeping Camp uh I'd like to kind of defend Mr jonan on the statement I mean I come in meeting I usually know the field of the lay of the land and who's going to vote for what
090you do too I mean you know I don't deny it you know kind of have an idea of what's going to happen and during the meeting I feel like it's my job during debate time try to convince somebody that I think is going to go that way and become come my way you see so that's how I approach a Mee and I think who do I need who to I need to talk to during the meeting okay that's just all I want to say about that is we all if you don't count votes then that's fine you're but I do I I just I don't get speak again I don't know I would just like to say that I know this has been a very contentious subject but for the seven months I think it's
091our seventh meeting now that I've been on um I feel like as a board I I think that we handed very well as far as debating it even today you know I don't think anybody really has any hard feelings we just have a lot of things we got to deal with with the Robert's Rule the procedures and the only thing that I was stating about his statement was that that applies pressure to somebody in a certain way I'm not saying it was towards commissioner Martin it might have been towards somebody else but I'm just saying that putting that puts pressure towards somebody to vote a certain way or could and uh but anyways I just you know I want to appreciate that show my appreciation that we that we can have a debate and not
092leave here with black eyes I'm sorry I made that comment take it any way you want to I went to get them all Chang last week and G City the remark was made doesn't matter what kind of motion you made said four to three vote I said Thank you walked away and I take to First C and it it hurts I'm telling you it hurts um so so he's saying that on because um the um let me see he saying that instead of it saying just Jefferson Elementary School it needs to say Jefferson Elementary School and what else on the agenda you want me ask question need to be a on the next agenda there need to be an advertised motion to resend and then specifically something with J Elementary so if you're W to
093do a remodel J Elementary School remodel renovation J Elementary School um new bill J Elementary School under the new business yes so if that's the case and and I agree I think that it should be more specific like that I do why was it that last month when it was put on the agenda it just said Jefferson Elementary School too anyways that's what I notic when I went to that meeting I was like what is this concerning until way at the very end and I I'll was not specific either I'll go on the record to just clarify that so I can help each of you out tremendously if you trust in me and give me information that you're going to bring in front of this board um so if you all I know is that
094all I knew coming into this meeting was we were going to discuss Jon elementary school so without without knowledge of where there again you know you don't need to talk to him and he doesn't need to talk to him but you're welcome to talk to me with any concerns that you have on anything and then Josh and I can get together as the executive committee and and nail down exact exactly what's going to be on there um we have a board attorney that's on retainer for a monthly fee that um we can go and bring this in front of him and get information so um we can get this taken care of any direction you want to go just like whenever we talked about contracts and and clearing that up um sometimes it's not about
095what you I get information from you and then I ask the board attorney and I have to ask it in the exact right way to get the information that we need so the first time I asked him he was anticipating that the contract was is it still good and not can we get out of it so the second time I asked him I got a different answer based on how I asked him and uh so just know that if you need anything myself and Rhonda will move the Moon and Earth to to get you what you need to make a decision and for it to be you know on part U with Robert's Rules of Order or anything of that nature I I would I would love to see the um agenda being more specific
096just like that last month I was confused on what we were supposed to be doing whichever address on there I had no idea what we were going to be doing at all I would like to see specifics too Mr chairman I know I'm limited but I think she asked me a question anym last month well I was kind well I answered it last month said jar Elementary School on the right you are correct but what motion was enforced there was only one Mo Motion in place at that time and that was to build a new school so I had the right to make the motion because that was on there and that was the only motion it's still enforced and I now if if there hadn't been another motion then uh it hadn't been advertised
097I going make a motion to build new school then I would have been out of work well that's fine but I would have love to see more specific information on the agenda for that that's all um we can only post what we have yeah to go by um can I say one more thing which is on a lighter note and not related to Jefferson Elementary School so um it was what was it Tuesday I came to the bus garage yes um to review the curriculum materials that are up for adoption and I went through and and and a couple other people came and we all went through all of the different um curriculum providers that were there and I got to say I was really really impressed with the McGraw Hill um curriculum provider that
098was actually um to me it looks like a very well-rounded curriculum for you know for um I think is that is that also for elementary yeah Elementary I love for Middle School I loved it for the high school um physics and chemistry part of it and for the high school um biology part uh the curriculum committee from what I understand is leaning towards the Kendall hunt curriculum provider which I took a look through that too and I got to say they they're on the right path with that I I could get behind that easily and of course mcra Hill I think that those are fantastic curriculums ours second