001I was hunting while >> I've gone >> [laughter] >> Thank you. [laughter] [laughter] >> I'm not Good. She's a big girl. They do actually strawberry. >> I Everybody That's what they do. [snorts] >> [laughter] >> over there. Firework. I started getting >> pretty close today. >> What you been doing, Dr. Woody? Any baking lately? We did some traveling and I I made those goooo clusters. >> I don't know if you ever read clusters. >> She makes pecorn. >> Well, I had I don't know. I say friend, but he brought me a huge box of pecans that had been cracked. He could pick them out. door, [clears throat] you know, doorbell rang. I'm like, I rec I've seen him and I recognize his face, but since I had that stroke, my memory just stupid me. I
002was so flabbergasted. I was so great. I guess you're >> a veteran. All these little trees, >> they look good. It's banana bread. I call it the banana. It's got cream cheese on top. Cream cheese. >> I can tell you look a little bit tired. [cough] >> I just reduced the sugar and the banana long day like 12 hours. >> Well, 10 hour day. I do 10 every day now. Today was just a lot [clears throat] changing [clears throat] [laughter] contract. tracks with our show trucks, big rigs that passport parts logistics figured out to get everything emptied and ready for the change over a lot of stuff. >> Tell us how good it is. >> Okay, [laughter] >> I'm not sure what this is. >> That's banana bites. Banana bread with cream cheese. Great. Oh
003my good sit at home and just do stuff all day. >> I got to keep busy. I can't stand to sit still. >> And the chocolate ones are the [snorts] Ritz cracker peanut butter dipped in chocolate. >> That is a Texas strawberry gooey buttercake. >> Okay. >> Hold that. >> Do what? >> I said that hold all that. Oh, no. No. Okay. >> That's when I got to get rid of it. [laughter] [clears throat] >> Okay. I don't really like us sitting like this for a workshop. >> I'm good. I'm ready. I'm tired. >> I want to get a table and pull it up so we can look at each other. I got this order. We'll start with there's three things we need to do is the recommendations for the director of schools. Um the
004salary range and a timeline what we want to do. I'm good. >> That's fine. >> So So where do we start? You want to start on >> Okay. So this is the >> This is what we did. >> Just around the corner. This way. This way's faster. >> And we can look and see if we want to continue or if there's anything we want to change. And I talked to Sam. Sam said he could help with the the verbiage of what we want in there. um requirements and master's degree. Okay, never mind. Um professional educator's license. Doesn't that need to be an administrator's license? Where did you say that? So an active Tennessee professional administrators >> license. >> Yeah. Exactly. It's educator administrator. Is it education administrator? I don't know there's a difference. >> Are
005you talking? >> Yes. >> Do we want that to be an administrative license? I think we should. >> You're going. >> Well, down here under to apply is listed. You have to present a copy of Tennessee professional and administrative license. Does that not cover that? >> Yeah, but it needs to be >> Oh, you want it under the requirements? Okay. >> That means a master's in administration. >> Administration. So if someone had a masters in psychology, >> right? Yeah. It has to be, you know, >> and if you had a master's in um >> curriculum and instruction, you know, I I feel like I feel like that it should be a masters in administration, too. >> The leadership masters, um I don't know exactly how to word it. I think it depends on what college
006you a master's in um educational leadership >> or yeah >> I mean would that would be appropriate right >> that would fall under administration >> master's degree in education leadership >> or administration >> which it says down here minimum three years of successful experience in school administration Most the majority of principles, assistant principles have their administrative license. Most people do when you're in administration. >> Aren't they supposed to? >> Right. They're supposed to, but >> that's why >> not all do, but they're supposed to. But I feel like it should be you should have your professional administration license to be bill. >> That's just my opinion. >> Well, and they have to present that according to this >> under to apply. >> Yeah. But I hear what you're saying. It should go up there too.
007>> Do we want to increase the time frame for administrative experience >> or ask that again? >> Do we want to increase the time from 3 years to four years or five years? >> Minimum of three years is >> I think it's fine. I think what you got to do is once you put it out there, you see what applicants you get and then we can >> we can look that further. >> Three. >> I have a question. Are we going to post this opening or we going to hire? [snorts] >> This does. >> Yeah. What's your thoughts on the matter, Miss De? Looks like you got some. [snorts] >> Well, I just I feel like that confusion. >> Well, if we're going to hire them, we're wasting our time right here. We can go
008ahead and talk about that. [clears throat] I mean, there's some people who want to hire from within and there's other people want to open it up. So, I just I just I just want >> That's a good question. Where where >> where does this board stand on that? Because if I were not from the system and I applied and I didn't have a chance because I wasn't from the system. I wasted my time and money coming. So, are we gonna look at because when when we hired Dr. burden. There was dissension about that. That was an issue that came up. So, I think we need to decide up front. Are we going to do this from within or we post it? I just like to know. >> Yeah, I'm I'm fine. I'm fine with posting
009it to see what we get. But I'd like to know everybody else's opinion on it. post >> then you go from there >> post um at our lake county schools website or post ts are we going to use tsba to us >> that cost money >> is it about 2,000 okay >> depends on the plane Yeah, it depends on if you want them to do everything, it can go up to 10. >> Yeah, I'm not necessarily recommending TSBA, so we're going to post ourselves. >> Okay. >> I think it's wise. I mean, we may have folks here right now that know they're gonna vote for someone within, but um [clears throat] I think it's wise to post it and let let that opportunity >> Well, I can truthfully say I have no preconceived ideas about
010any of that. >> I don't either. You know, I post >> That's what I was asking. Where do we post it? [clears throat] I mean, we want it to go beyond >> Lake County. >> Well, I know y'all not going to look at these plans, but I read through this afternoon. [clears throat] Plan one is $3,000. >> This is TSBA. >> Yes, TSBA. >> And they publish um they publish nationally and distribute to a multitude of places. Um they advertise via a website. They receive credentials, provide all of those acts of materials to us. The rest of it's up to us to background checks and everything else. [cough and clears throat] >> That's the 3000 plan. >> Yeah, it's the cheap one. >> That's the cheapest. >> I think we can post it and go
011from there. I don't think we should I don't think we should spend any money with the SBA to do it. >> Post it on the website. >> Okay. >> Like I what my question would be is if we post it where it reach where we need to do that Facebook >> I agree. We post it where we post it, but I don't have one. I'm asking where >> I'm thinking about toss office and I'm looking at you Willie because I know you know Barry Alhousen is an assistant director of that of that office. It's not connected to the department of ed. But would you know if they and if you don't want to answer we can find out. >> I don't mind. >> Do they make avail do they make it available? So TSBA is
012pay for them to do those services, but Barry does a lot of preliminary stuff and so he's in touch with lots of people that want to become directors of schools before they go to the TSB superintendent academy and so he leads people in certain directions. So yes, toss is a good in between. As far as posting it to our website, you may not know this, but we have a contract with Gallagher. And Gallagher allows us to we post on Indeed. I'm not sure what the other platforms are. So, when we post our jobs now, because four years ago it was just just our website. So, now we have it, it branches out. That's why we get applicants from Missouri, Kentucky, and Tennessee, but we also get them from the Philippines. So, you you also get
013that. So if you post it on our website, it's going to go out on those other platforms that we have to contract. >> Okay. And toss. Yes. Because Barry is the deputy director or whatever he is. >> He's a good advocate for >> and there's no fee with >> this. This is Barry being he's just talking. >> Yeah, that answers your question. >> Beyond Yeah, >> I was just worried about not being able to reach out. Yeah, I'm with I'm with you >> question. >> Yeah. >> So, okay. >> Okay. Is there anything Is there anything else with the recruitment? >> Who will be the lead person to get the application to? >> Yeah. And that's the way it was set up here to the chair. Yeah. >> And then [clears throat] talk about [snorts]
014applications will be accepted through date. >> The election year have somebody hired 45 [snorts] days before election. >> Yes. Either that or it has to be an interim. >> Yeah. 45 days before or 45 days >> after 45. >> Yeah. >> Take applications in January, February, and March. I think this deadline right here is just about as good as any. Thursday. [laughter] >> Okay. >> So, take applications through when? >> So, we're in the exact position we were when we collection all everything. >> So, [snorts] you think I'm good with this? not very interesting that our candidates [bell] give us a little more time because after that we'll need to start it once. >> [clears throat] >> So, what day did they decide they would be exemped? >> March 31st. That's good with everybody. I'm
015just thinking we need >> I feel like we got to give enough time to get out there. >> We can say February 27. >> Whatever y'all agree on. >> I like February 27. Sounds like a [snorts] good day. You said a Friday. >> Yeah, it's a Friday. >> Like a Friday. >> This is the closing date for putting on the website. What was the date? February >> 27. >> You wanted at the close of business on February 27th. >> Or at midnight. >> Yes. >> That is not flexible. That is deadline. [clears throat] >> Deadline deadline. Yeah, I remember last time. >> Yeah, >> it be closed business or midnight. >> Midnight dealing with time zones two months really. So I just need the the job description and then any requirements of documents that you're
016requiring. So they'll tell them what >> transcripts, degrees, references, resumes, >> you're right, M. It was I didn't see that in the copy of professional English. Yeah. >> Well, that'll cover that. Yeah. [clears throat] >> Okay. So, this looks good. Let me ask you a question. And this is probably an HR question. So, when we get three references from somebody, we want to check those references. Do we have to have a release to contact them? >> Last time I just called in references. >> Yeah. >> Does one person call or can everybody call? >> I think everybody calling would be too much for >> Yeah, we can designate that to one person. Whatever. >> I'm saying background check >> education there. There was a company that does background checks. They talked about it when we
017were talking about adding a financial aspect and I can't remember the name but I think I've got the information. >> The state law requires to be done through the the company that's that we do it locally for all of our employees through the TVI. So >> yeah, >> we could use that. >> So you have to do a drug test for your policy and you have to have the background check. So I had to have my fingerprints. >> Okay. just use what we have in place. [clears throat] >> Is the background check done before you? >> Yes. >> And so you offer offer employment pending passing a drug test and passing the background check. So once those things are done, then it starts the next part. Okay. All right. So, our recruitment looks good. All
018right. Next is timeline. We said we'll accept applications February 27. So, do we want to do interviews the month of March? as soon as possible. >> Okay. Between receiving applications and interviewing, we're going to cut down. We're not going to apply, right? >> So, I think we can maybe have another work session and review our applicants [cough] and their qualifications. Yeah, like if we have lots of applications, >> we probably >> I'll be surprised if we have lots. But if we do, yeah, we could >> I think four applicants when we hired Dr. Woody. Is that right? Four. >> That was what was in paper. >> Yeah. Three. And Dr. Oh yes, that guy. >> That guy notes. >> Yeah, very meticulous note. >> He was interviewing us >> a little bit. >> Yes. >>
019Um I'm gonna suggest something. When I talked to Ben, he suggested I think it's a wonderful idea. Um, and that is to do a community survey about what they expect from director of schools, how they think we can improve. Um, actually got check GBT to do one just to see what it looked like. >> It included things like [snorts] what they what requirements they think a superintendent should um have um things like experience with rural school districts, transparent use of taxpayer funds, ability to secure grants, uh strong communication with parents and staff, accessibility and approachability, support for teachers, uh knowledge of Tennessee education standards. Um there's a whole section here on financial stewardship and resources. Um what does financial transparency look like to you? It gives the it gives the parent, guardian, the stakeholders because
020even if you're just a community person, they could fill it out if they were this website. Um I I think it would be a good idea because you know [snorts] you'll know how it was. Well, I think it's a good idea to put it out there and give them a voice. Some voices are wild, >> but yeah, I think I think they should speak >> have an impact >> and we could do that while we're getting the applications. >> I talked to Miss Chris the other night. I think she said, didn't you say Sunny did the Survey Monkey? >> Well, she No, it's we do. We usually do it on through Google >> Google Docs. >> Well, there's a Google form that you do that's got it, but Sunny did I think the last one
021we did that we published. I mean, I could do it, but Sunny's done them, too. >> So, this kind of survey can be done in that same way. >> Yeah. and it collects all the stuff and it goes like into a spreadsheet and all that stuff >> so we can see the results and the data and comments. >> You know, I think this is a good idea, but somebody that's elected to be in this position should not be saying what I'm about to say because it would probably cost a lot of votes. So be it. Um, we do need to know this, but when we vote on whatever the issue is, um, we're voting, I would hope, in the way that we think is best for our students and our school system. and not I
022mean we've been through training modules that has helped us be better school board members. Um certainly I I want us to pay attention to our community, but there might be some things that we might know a little bit more about than our stakeholders. Anybody else agree with that? >> I completely agree. We go to training sessions every year and we sit through things to learn how to do this and how to be better at this and our community's opinion is very valid. Absolutely. >> We are trained to make the decisions that we made professionally >> and some and what I just said some people will take that the wrong way and I don't mean to be saying we shouldn't listen to our community but there are things but that's what a board is for >>
023right >> I think that you know certain situations are like honed in but they don't actually seem to be picture or even know that you need picture because you don't know unless you're here >> and Jody >> you there's no way for them to know. They they don't they don't work the stuff like a school board does. So, yeah. Um >> I'm not going to say you're wrong. I just feel like with a lot of the feedback I got, I think it would be good for us to take and listen to what they had to say. It doesn't mean it's going to shape our decisions or change our decisions. >> I'm sure it will shape it. >> I mean, >> yeah, we need to get them involved. At least maybe they'll stay involved. >> Well,
024I don't know that they'll stay involved. You know, a lot of people just want to complain, but >> the only time we have anybody here is when they're here complain or push agenda. It's not really got to our children. It's because my feelings got hurt and I want something done about it. >> But I do think stakeholders need to have their voice and that's just my personality. >> No, I agree with that too. which >> um but again board policy >> a board member is here for a reason >> and it's not that we're here to run the schools because people in the school run the schools it's part of one of those trainings we all know what we're here for >> you to we do a survey I'm in favor of the survey We
025have people feel more invested in the system when they have that input parents, teachers, staff, you know, everybody should be in the survey and this is something that's going to be done at like in January >> should our description job look at what what the what the as well. >> Yeah. >> Here's an example. >> Yeah, that seems too long. >> It's blank at the end for those extra >> if you want to. Um, and then next will be salary range. >> I think some of that should be based on qualifications. >> I think we could probably I don't know what the best way to approach that degree. Well, if we want to do like if you have someone with a doctorate degree and five years of, you know, experience with school administration, you know,
026that's going to be on the higher end. And this compared to someone with a master's degree in just three years. >> Yeah. So like a range of what do we want our kind of lowest to highest? >> Do we dare wait on that and see what applicants we get? >> I don't negotiate with the lawyer. [clears throat] salary. Don't you always have an idea what your salary? I mean, >> well, that's what >> And you said range. >> So, yeah. Yeah. >> The range based on take what we have now and go down. Now, be in the top >> and go down within that range. 95 to >> I say 115 to 127. >> 115 to 127. >> That's what he makes 127. >> So toss actually has the information about what every director of
027schools makes in the northwest my salary compared to what the other directors. So that information is available to you. Jimmy Dale, did you say 115 and what' you say? >> 115 to 127 >> to 128. >> I I think that's [clears throat] good. I'd go I'd probably go 100 to 127 just to give a range on that way you can say well the qualifications because we [clears throat] don't know what kind of applicants we're going to get because you can't go back the offer. >> That's true. whatever you said. [snorts] >> So, do we want to say 100 or >> what's the difference in in 5,000 6,000 the difference between a a masters and a doctorate in our system? >> It's about that. >> Yeah. >> I mean, you know, that's what a difference of
028a teacher would be. It doesn't matter to me. We have it in the middle. We have a child. >> Yeah, I like to >> three digits looks better than I mean on the front six digits rather than five digits. >> But was I wrong about that? When when you hire someone, do they not negotiate the salary >> in that range? Yeah. >> Is that right? >> Yeah. So, you negotiate it through your board attorney. >> Yeah. >> Sam does that through you all and your board, but you it goes back and forth and it goes back along with like mileage, right? There's other things that you can negotiate. That's all. >> You hire the board attorney to do that part for you and then once he negotiates it out, he presents it back to you
029and says, "Do you agree with this contract, you give him an idea and he does that >> and then he works with that person >> that way. Otherwise, you would continually just have to have board meetings and negotiate every piece of it. That's why he does >> [laughter] [snorts] >> Is there anything else? >> So, did y'all set a date on when you want this posted? >> I'll go ahead and post it now. >> Post it tomorrow. Well, do we need to make sure to get everything? >> I'll make sure. I'd say January 1 time if we need sound to review anything. >> Yeah, we're here. We're at the 15th. Yeah. So, that should January first business day be the second maybe is the day of school. January 5th posted and that gives it enough
030time. >> So that document will have the salary range, the requirements of the documents is closed on February the 27th at midnight. >> I got a quick question. I heard the auditors been around. >> How was that? [clears throat] How was the auditors? >> Uh I would say I think four of them are the ongoing failure to reconcile both with the trustee and also with bank account too that have been there for years. And so then you have the third one that says [cough and clears throat] you haven't fixed these two issues. So that's a third [snorts] I always mess up the word mccurial. It's where they have to move the money for us within and a lot of that had to do from changing over from the local government platform to synergy. So it's
031like trying to or not synergy with the sky. It's like trying to build a plane and fly it at the same time. So, the purchase request part did come off. There's an IRS finding on there that the auditors put on there. That's an interesting one. >> I should say how that happened. >> Well, so it's $125,000. But here's the deal. I've already talked to Sam about it, but some of this $40,000 of it occurred before 2020. So this is an ongoing [cough] thing [clears throat] of so quarterly taxes have to be paid as an employer and whenever it's an inconsistent amount of money that you have to pay out you have to pay attention what those quarterly are. If it's not paid on time it's the wrong amount and you get a penalty you get
032interest and over time it just keeps it's like a credit card you can't make a payment on. So this it was so much before 2020 they just put it all in one boss of $40,000 and it's the same processes that have been broken about paying the wrong schedule in quarterly taxes. So it's $125,000 bill at this point. So folks didn't understand what that was. So Amy stayed on the phone with the Treasury Department [clears throat] and she got all the information [snorts] and said this is lack of understanding accounting and taxes. So but in that it looks like there's an opportunity to request relief in abatement because this is not people taking money. This is a lack of understanding of those quarterly taxes. So, we've asked Sam, so I sent Sam all the information and
033he has a tax person in his office. We thought that was a reasonable ask of the IRS to go through that process to get relief. So, this wasn't a recent development. [clears throat] Um, that was when we changed over to for the cafeteria. I think that was it. the IRS, the cafeteria, the transfer of material funds, and that amount was like three million. Last year it was $2 million and it's about So here's another thing. We went through all the right processes. You put an amount of money to a line item like $10,000 and you are going to overspend. So the process is it has to come here to the board and will you move this money from this line to that line item? You say yes and you take it to county commission. We've
034done those pieces of parts, but one of the findings was about the minutes did not reflect accurately what actually had transpired and that became part of the finding. >> So, we did all of the hard stuff, but the minutes didn't reflect it. So, again, it's what we had always done. I think auditors I don't speak but we've done it this way for a long time and apparently they need more information on the minutes. So that was another part. So I always look at it when I always have a hard time listening to them because I think somebody has done something illegal with somebody that's not the case. It's just it's always about internal controls. It's always about processes. It's about knowledge of the job. And that's what it came down to. Shelby, the comproller, the
035auditor said it was the perfect storm. You switched from local government to Skyward in the throws of people trying to learn their jobs and and I don't disagree with that. So, y'all asked a question about reconciliation. We had hired a company of auditors to try to do that reconciliation from the back because that was part of the mess. We are up to date in the reconciliations for this fiscal year from July moving forward. November is done both through the bank and the trustee. So we hired these folks and they have not been doing and Emily who's been a rock star said let me do it. So she is dedicating the time to do what we had originally contracted out to do and she is tenacious. So she is now going to be doing the reconciliations
036in the past and we're doing it moving forward. So it speaks highly of of that team and especially at >> a rock. So yeah, it's it's getting cleaned up, but you do the auditing exit. It's a lot of the same stuff. >> Reconciliation we got down to when we did the we had to do the corrective action plan. That's the root cause of almost all of it is the failure to reconcile. [clears throat] [cough] >> May I go back to Deborah's question at the beginning of the meeting? Of course, Vivian has expressed she has no preconceived notion as as a board. Are we of that mindset? And am I allowed to ask that because we've not voted on anything? No. You know, we can't talk about a vote, right? >> We've not voted on anything.
037>> No. >> But are we of that mindset as a board? timeline. I want to say our options and myself what I feel. >> Okay. >> I speak [clears throat] with you. >> I think that's important. >> That's right. >> Or whatever that's worth. You know >> what's best is nobody sitting in front of you. I don't want to disrespect or downplay anybody in our system. >> What's best for our system? [cough] [clears throat] >> Okay. [clears throat] Can I address one thing with y'all? There was a question about fund balance and I think that I know there's a misunderstanding. I had a misunderstanding about fund balance. We were talking about $4 million. So the more and more questions I asked about it, this is the reality. The fund balance is not a true savings
038account in whole. It's partly a savings account. It's all one account. So if we have to write checks for payroll and for whatever the reason we haven't been reimbursed by a federal grant, that money comes out of that fund balance, it's a checking accounts savings account. So depending on where we were in the month, depending on what money had come in, gone out, it can fluctuate by a couple of million dollars. So [clears throat] Amy is digging through about all of the things that the board had agreed to if they had to give into the fund balance about, but you can't just look at the fund balance and think that that's a savings account. That is a revolving account. And I didn't fully understand that. Mallerie had made mention of that. I don't remember if
039she did that for me or what it was and I went okay now I understand that amount is very fluid but you can still what you're talking about is carryover money carryover is what was not spent in the GP budget that goes over and it is but it is a separate amount of money so just to say fund balance is an oversimplification so that $4 million we talked about was not the savings account. You want to know what's in that amount of money that's carried over. That's what you need to know about in thinking about a remodeling job or buying a bus or whatever. And that's what Amy is trying to get down the bottom of. She's identified the things that you all voted on. So, you have to figure out what was left over
040from last year and the year before. It's a little more complex. And I didn't realize how much more complex until we went through the Shelby made that comment and I went it was about two million but I don't think it was in totality. I just want to make sure it was clear to y'all about there's more to the definition. Amy will get you some more information at your January meeting. What are some of the things I know the building and learning I know the retirement. >> So the biggest one was Esser money was set aside for Schneider and then you agreed to pay the overage >> which is like 4 million 400,000. Then there was the roofing project. [snorts] Those were two big ones. I know the retirement that was 200. >> The TISA was
041another for everybody else who wasn't teachers. That was almost 100,000, >> right? That's 100 and then the bonus is 100. >> Then there was a grant that y'all paid the matches for. I can't remember. >> Is this something she gonna give us? >> Yeah, it's a list. >> Okay. She's going to give it to us. Okay. >> That's right. So when you see it, she's going through it and I was like, "Okay, we're not to that point." And I'm like, so what are we talking about? And that's when we got into the definition of fund balance. And I'm like, that's not my understanding what fund balance was. And so it is in part, it's not totality. It is a revolving account. Mer, I'm sure, could do a much better job explaining. I wasn't sure I
042was going to get into that tonight. And we'll have a much clearer definition in January. So you understand that. >> One more question and let's go home. Um the survey, did y'all like what GBT did for us or do y'all want to do one yourself? >> Yeah. >> Did you think it covered? >> I think it covers everything. >> Yeah. >> So, if you will send it to me, give me the directions of what you want and I will send it to you. >> I can give you a hard copy. Or I can send it to you on my phone. It's still up. >> Yeah, if we have it digitally that way we can just take whatever Oh, it's on your phone. >> Yeah, but I don't have my phone apparently. I walked out without
043it. [clears throat] >> If you can give me a digital format of it, then we can change it over to Google forms. But then you also have to >> chat GBT can do a Google form. And if you if that's what you want somebody to do, y'all want to do it or you're getting TSBA, whoever it is, but you got to figure out how do you want to push that out? Are you just putting it on the link? [snorts] >> I would say that we need to put it on our Facebook page. >> So, I need instructions about which >> I did that other >> I'm sorry, what's your question? >> How did we do the other? We pushed it out through our social media site and we posted we emailed it to our district
044and we put it onto our website. >> Should we do this the same way? >> But I can tell you I'm not I'm not You do whatever you want. It takes a lot of work to do a survey to get exactly what you want. And I don't know what those questions are on there, but to make sure you get a percentage back, you have to think about what it is you're looking for to get back. doing surveys is took us a lot of time to get what we were looking for. So, I don't know what you're doing on there, but length of the survey makes a big deal. Quantifying them. If you don't, if it's not quantifiable, then it's hard to get your information back. If you just have open blanks, you have a lot
045to go through. >> There's an art to doing survey. >> You tell me what you want and I'll put it out there. We may need to eliminate those lines. Maybe just one line instead of like on, [clears throat and cough] you know, that section one and section three. Like maybe just that last section be the only one that has >> make it less wordy. >> Would you like me to work through it and send it back to you and tell me if you like it or not? >> Sure. [clears throat] Be nice if you could do that. Yeah, less worried. Anything else? [clears throat] >> Merry Christmas. Everybody pleasure. [clears throat]