001[laughter] I like >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Everyone started. [laughter] achievement. [laughter] She's well >> [laughter] >> I'm looking for the other one. >> [clears throat] >> I know her, but I knew her. [laughter] Mariah was my vice president. >> [laughter] [laughter] >> I had some time. Miss Tanya left us and her replacement but not we went from from kindergarten. They started kindergarten. This is the second year of kindergarten. So now she's not cheered. And that one year she played basketball. >> Yeah, [laughter] >> this year last year. I guess I guess I just got to have that in your [laughter] job. Congratulations. Well, I >> [clears throat] >> There's some Good evening. We will start our board meeting this evening. First on the agenda is roll call. >> Sorry. >> Kane >> here. >>
002Jones [snorts] here. Neil >> here. Snider >> here. >> Wind here. >> All right. Next, we will stand for the invocation and the pledge of allegiance. Father God, we thank you for this night. We thank you for the opportunity to to come and serve. Lord God, I thank you for all these people on this board that are serving our schools and serving our children. Father God, I thank you that um that you're going to lead, guide, and direct every decision. And I pray that your spirit just overtakes this whole meeting and um and that we make decisions according to what you would have. Father God, I thank you for just every opportunity to serve. I thank you for every heart in here, every person that's interested in our school system and these young. Lord God,
003I pray that you just lead God and direct. I pray it all in Jesus Christ's holy name. Amen. >> Amen. [snorts] I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Next is to approve December 8th, 2025 agenda. All right. Motion made by Diane. Second made by Vivian. All in favor say I. >> Any opposed say no. All right. Motion carried to approve the December 8th, 2025 agenda. Next, we would like to welcome all of our visitors this evening. Welcome. We appreciate you coming uh to our school board meeting. Uh, next is to approve the minutes of the previous meeting on November 6, 2025. >> Motion made by Jim Dale. Second. >> Second made
004by Jody. All in favor say I. >> Any oppose say no. >> All right. Motion carried to approve the minutes of the previous meeting on November 6, 2025. Next to is to approve the minutes of the previous meeting on November 10th, 2025. I'll make a motion. Second. >> Motion made by Jimmy Dale. Second made by Miss Judy. [snorts] All in favor say I. >> Any oppose say no. All right. [clears throat] Motion carried to approve the minutes of the previous meeting on November 10th, 2025. Next, we will have public comment. Is there anybody that signed [cough] up? >> I didn't see anyone. >> Okay, >> sorry. >> There's no one on it. Okay. >> All right. Next is the student representative report. I believe Miss Mariah is playing a ball game. So, this is Miss
005Ter. She's our pro 10. >> Good evening, members of the school board. Thank you for allowing me to share some of the great things happening at Lake County High School. We have an exciting event coming up tomorrow, our night of music. This fundraiser supports our high school programs and features performances from both students and community members. Our new culinary arts teacher, Miss Sarah Hollowell, has already made a big impact. Her students are preparing cookies for the event and we're thrilled to have her on our team. Our student organizations have also been busy serving the community. The Beta Club provided food for two Thanksgiving baskets and the student council is currently collecting items for a Christmas basket. Our freshman health screenings were completed successfully, ensuring our students are healthy and supported. We're extremely proud to [clears
006throat] of the recent student achievements as well. Emma Morgan represented Lake County in the entire state at Jag TN Nationals in Washington DC as state president. Our skills USA team Harrison Matoyer Trail Maze and Jackson Essis place at the state competition and will compete in at nationals making them the first group in LCHS history to do so. Our school was also recognized as a FASA champion showing our commitment to preparing students for future success. Our FFA chapter is working on custom license plates, showcasing their hands-on skills. And athletically, both our middle and high school basketball teams won their games against Fulton County this past Saturday. Tonight, our high school teams are facing Westview, and we want to wish them the best of luck. Looking ahead, on December 12th, we will hold our hype and chill
007day, recognizing student accomplishments, positive behavior, and personal growth. In addition, we are hosting a celebration of loved ones, an event that allows students to invite a family member or a special guest to join them for lunch. This program is part of our effort to strengthen the bond between school and home and to celebrate the people who support our students. As I wrap up this monthly report, I want to thank the board for your continued support of our students and staff. We're proud of all we've accomplished in the past month, and we look forward to sharing even more achievements and updates with you next month. Thank you. >> [applause] >> NEXT is Sunday activities policy review. >> So board members, after our last meeting, I did reach out to TSBA and I asked them to draft
008the statement into policy excluding Sunday practices unless it was approved by the director. So that's what [snorts] you have in front of you. And you also have a copy of an additional policy. I was talking to Vivian. And it also has a reference about practices and a separate policy. So [snorts] I've deferred that to TSBA. It was their opinion to put it in the policy that they provided 3 or excuse me the 4.31. I can see where it would fit in both. I would I would presume that the reason they put it in the policy they did because there's other uh pieces in that policy that it would exclude why you wouldn't have practices or games talking about things about hazing the weather. So I assume that it just follows suit but I can see
009an argument for it being on 4.3 as well. That's up to you. >> I actually looked at the policy [snorts] a little bit closer. I think I figured it out. >> Okay. um the extracurricular activities policy which is the 4.30 it's for all extracurricular activities. This is just for athletics. So I guess the question then becomes do we want to include such a statement in the extracurricular activities as well as our athletic activities or do we just leave it for athletic activities? So you're referring so if a CTE CTSO program so if the FFA program was having a gathering on a Sunday afternoon this would exclude that as well and put it under that policy. We would change the language from practices to meetings. There's a very specific definition what a practice is. So you're
010going to get into the meaning being very broad in nature. So, you're right. If you put it in here, that's going to exclude a lot of activities that that happens in >> um it goes it goes down to what what I think the initial the initial reason we're at this point is to exclude study practices from athletics. Do we want to go ahead and cover extracurricular activities the same way? I think we should um but in that policy um the 300 policy it says a student shall not be required to attend an extracurricular activity that is scheduled at the time which conflicts with his or her religious practices. I mean the policy was already in place when we had the issue. >> That policy >> you're talking about this policy is already >> in place.
011Exactly. >> [clears throat] >> 4.31 was in place too but you just added the practice >> and I don't want to speak anyone [snorts] but part of it was it already excluded for the religious part but I think there was also I think right at least to which was it's kind of this unwritten expectation if you have practice on Sunday or not you should be there as part of that peer pressure part and I think it was interesting hear that coming from so we can't and shouldn't but there was these unwritten parts and we were putting students in those bad situations that's what I heard that's what I heard from our student so that put it in a different perspective for me [snorts] so do y'all want to add the statement to both policies or
012do you policy 4300 covers it with the statement that we already have. [clears throat] I mean I want to go ahead and that's on that's on line item 10 and 11. The student shall not be required. Correct. >> Right. >> I feel [clears throat and cough] I feel that covers it. Um, >> but it was already in place and right I think Dr. Burton's right there was some peer expectation but I think there was some coaches expectation from what >> was being presented to us and that's that's the part that I really have the most problem with is that we had coaches who had that expectation for a student. Um, I know coaches and you know, coach Moore over there is one of my favorite. There are coaches who push the students really hard. And
013I know that part of that is is management of their team and encouraging them to be the best that they can be. And that's honorable. But when you start penalizing children for not showing up for practicing their religious faith, you're taking a very important aspect of development >> away from them. Spiritual development is just as important to a child as physical development, emotional development or academic development. And so that's the reason I asked, should we add more to the extracurricular activities policy or do we leave it as is or do we just look and and add this to the additional policy? I'm running out of breath, guys. I'm sorry. Don't know. [clears throat] >> [clears throat and cough] >> That number six, a student shall not be required to attend an extra direct activity because
014of religious practices. I is there a way to build into that statement? I guess I'm trying to simplify [snorts] that. Do we make reference to the coach? Do um >> I don't know that we can that that's what I'm kind of having issue with. I I totally understand number six, but I guess the assumption there [clears throat and cough] I guess and I understand that the assumption there is the coach maybe I shouldn't assume it in that way because obviously it hasn't happened right >> u just trying to how to word it so that the coach should not like you said penalize the student or showing up. >> I mean the the policy was in place when this happened. >> That is the reason I have such a problem. >> Well, yeah. >> You violated
015policy. >> Because if you're penalizing a student for not showing up for practice on Sunday [clears throat] and >> there's more than football and basketball involved in this. >> That's what I'm saying. I mean whether it's FFA meeting, whether it's culinary arts meeting, whatever. >> If you're if you're meeting on a Sunday for something for school and the children don't show up because they was in church, they should not be penalized for it. Then it's right here. I mean, it's they they're excluded. So you know board members I don't know that there was a statement made for me if I'm wrong where a coach penalized a student. I think it was this the unwritten expectations and the example was given that if practices or [clears throat] plays were were run during a practice of the
016schedule assembly and students who were not attending but they were not required to they were not privy to whatever was handed out on whatever was practiced on Sunday they weren't part of. So it wasn't actually penalized, it just weren't a part of. So it lost its inclusivity. So on Monday when they go to play, they didn't know what it is they were in practice on Sunday. So I don't know in an event where there was a requirement of them being there. I don't know of them actually been penalized. Was there that what I [clears throat] described? Probably. So >> so maybe he say that there should be no practice on Sunday >> which get you to get you to get you to the policy >> or the no activities. Yes. Yeah. Whether it be sports
017[clears throat] or whichever >> because it could be cheerleading. It could be >> right. But without the caveat, without the directors, you can do it permission. It's going to get into another worms, but that's what the board had asked for the TSBA to write in there. So, do we just need to take out the cave? Because anything, look guys, none of us are going to if if our kids are headed to state and they're going to play on Monday morning, we're not going to prevent them from practicing on the Sunday. They're already not going to be any [snorts] >> like we might be traveling >> and we'd be traveling and it would probably require our approval anyway. So if we're going to bring that to the board, then we just as well as to bring
018that to and that way it's all hand and the board. >> So in the event that I think Mike presented to you all, there are going to be some circumstances that could cause other situations. Um the otherwise you won't be able to come together as a board. So, [snorts] um, you're going to you could put yourself in a corner because if it's going to require a board meeting to approve a meeting or practice or something like that on Sunday, you're going to be restricted to y'all being able to come together as a forum. That's why TSBA went be very very careful about what you put into policy. And u so that's why they were hesitant to get but that the director's approval allows for special circumstances. [clears throat] >> So why not go with director's
019approval for those unusual maybe unexpected circumstances. >> It says here extraordinary. >> Uhu. So what what would be included is a coordinate is something we [clears throat] set out with our >> I would say that the examples given where there were delays and rain [clears throat] >> things like that where hey you're going to have to play on Monday in the state tournament that Sunday practice would be very help for us to be able to go for walk through participate compete. So it's not very likely but there are some circumstances. If I'm being posed that question I go so was Saturday an option there reason was on Saturday that's why we could or couldn't >> see I can't figure out why Saturday was not an option anyway >> and I know you're trying to look
020into the future and that's where it becomes very problematic. So if you don't leave that at the director's discretion, only a board meeting could overturn that policy. And then at that point, you would actually you'd be changing policy in that you build policy. So you're giving permission to go outside of the policy. That doesn't sound right now that I'm speaking through it. You would have to change policy at the board meeting. And typically policies are done through two readings, not one reading. Typically, you pose a reading of a policy change, let it set, and then you come back and you do a second. >> I don't think you ever >> I think with those unexpected circumstances, why not under the director of schools approve or disapprove? It's not like it's happen all the time. >>
021No. No. And you know, I want to honor that number six for sure circumstances. >> I want to clarify something. practices is defined in both TWSA and TM [clears throat and cough] SAA. I don't have it in front of me, but it defines practice and it would be a distinct difference between that and these other extracurricular activities. There's a fine difference between those two just like [clears throat] open gym. We're not supposed to have open gym on the weekend. So, we stop that practice all together. So, vocabulary matters in that sense. I think [clears throat] you'll run into extracurricular activities. I think you'll see that there's very few Sundays that they do anything on. >> They may have to travel on Sunday, >> but very few our schools do very few things on Sunday with
022extra. >> So, I just want to make sure it is there is a distinct difference when it comes So, do we want to go with what TSBA put here? Mandatory Saturday practice is left to the discretion of the coach. Coaches will refrain from practicing on Sundays. Permission for extraordinary circumstances must be obtained from the director. [clears throat] >> That's basically saying no practice. [clears throat] >> I make motion. I'll make the motion we go. [clears throat] >> Have we discussed making it an option on Sundays? I wasn't here. We did discuss that and we all agreed that Sunday was not an option. >> Sunday was not an option. [snorts] Like so. No. No practice. >> No Sunday practices >> unless it's >> an extraordinary service. >> Extraordinary service. >> Like for instance, if the girls
023make to the substate, >> yeah, >> substate games played on Monday. You're not going to penalize if they want to pass on something. >> I mean, I I mean, >> yeah, >> because it's a big game. It's a substate game. You don't get to do that much, >> right? >> And if they happen to have an 11:00 game on Monday to travel on Sunday, >> if the student athlete chooses not to, >> it's covered in policy, >> right? Okay. So, a motion made by Jimmy Dell, a second made by Michael. You do roll Kain. >> Yes. >> Cook. >> Yes. >> Almanra. >> Yes. >> Jones. Yes, >> Neil. >> Yes, >> Snider. >> Yes, >> Windsor. >> Yes. >> All right. Next is the cops grant approval. board members. I had text all of
024you announcing that Mike along with conjunction with Schneider Elect write the grant cops. For those you don't know what cops are, that's community granted policy services. So these are grant monies that are offered to public entities to help build up infrastructure for security and safety. So we had previously gotten a cops grant. where [clears throat] we went through a priority list that was built by Homeland Security with the scope of work. So this is the second one, but for us to be able to start anything to do it, the board has to agree to accept it with the terms that are laid out in front of you for the $499,997. [cough and clears throat] Before you take that up, the scope of work, you >> Yeah. >> You want to tell them what that scope
025of work is? >> Sure. Sure, I don't mind. Uh, like he said a couple weeks ago, we got a email that we got awarded. Um, we have to go follow these steps as he said to get your approval, get your commitment, 499,997 over a three-year period. The grant would run through September 30th of 2028. Uh, in that grant, scope of work would be a portion of the safety coordinator salary for three years. New IP cameras at all three schools. Uh currently they all have the old analog cameras that you have to go into the principal's office, put in a password, find it, you know, just it's a mess to try to find what you're looking for on film. New IP cameras, you would be able to pull it up on your phone or somewhere else
026like the jail administration would have it uh at their fingertips. Also, law enforcement um they can get access quickly. A visitor management system for each school. Uh this is uh this is more common. As you walk in the schools these days, walk in the office if you're a visitor, there's a a scanner right there to scan your driver's license. It automatically pulls up uh if you're a sex offender, felons, things like that. If everything checks out, it'll take a picture of you. It'll put your face on a name tag, put it on your chest, and then you go wherever you need to go in the building. And also keyless entries at all three schools. Again, safety features. These would be uh faculty and staff would have the IDs. It's magnetized would scan it at the
027door. It would open up. It eliminates keys, eliminates people getting a copy of keys and also making sure our doors shut properly and they lock. Um those four things there is kind of what we put in that scope when we wrote it. Uh and we did fill out the waiver. Uh we did get approved. So uh [cough and clears throat] >> yeah. Yeah. Said that especially through 100%. uh the Department of Justice uh will fully reimburse us the whole amount on that grant. So, uh tonight I'm just asking for your commitment, your approval to accept this award uh where we can accept it uh first thing in the morning. >> Thank you. >> Hey, [clears throat] just a quick question because I just I'm interested the cameras. >> Yeah. >> Are we going to be
028able to put those cameras in more than just the hallways? >> Possibly. Yeah. the the quotes we got was just on the number of current cameras we got in each building, but something to look at. >> That's awesome. I am so excited about that. >> I make a motion to accept. >> I motion made by Vivian. Second made by [cough] call [clears throat] >> yes. Yes, >> Jones. >> Yes, >> Neil. >> Yes, >> Windsor. >> Yes, >> Snider. >> Yes. >> All right. Next is the early release dates for collaborative planning approval. >> Board members, as we met with [snorts] instructional leaders, we re recognize the opportunity to collaborate amongst teachers. It's tough to be able to in the middle of the day. There's always things that are going on. Time is precious. And
029so we recognize that we need to be able to protect time. And so today, we're asking for you to consider to [cough] to provide us with release day, meaning we would attend school till 11:30. We would do a release. At 12:30, we would enter into that collaborative planning for [snorts] teachers. So it's not a professional development. It's an opportunity for teachers to come over to come together and plan. I was gonna let Sunny explain some of those nuances about what those days would look like. [clears throat] >> So last year we have we currently have collaborative planning by grade level. Where we're struggling with this year is finding the opportunity for us to bring teachers, special education teachers [cough and clears throat] and education into the room together to talk about what the needs of
030students are. Um right now when we do that we pull our EAS or we try to pull a special education teacher into that collaborative plan to plan for the supports those students need. Students are missing services. So our educational assistants play a very important role in our world because they do small groupoup instruction based off what teachers are saying we need support here. And so the planning aspect of that and in addition to all the other things that teachers are trying to do, principles being a part of that, just finding the time to make happen is we're struggling with it. That is the biggest thing I think that we have not been able to make happen since school started. So at a access, excuse me, acceleration for all meeting that we were at earlier in
031the fall, several of the districts are doing this and we were like, let's think about how could we make that happen. And as we've gone through the year, we recognize this is probably going [clears throat] to be the best way for us to be able to provide the individualized supports we need for our students across the district. So, I kind of gave you a blur. I tried to give you as much information, but as little information as possible to make informed decisions. So, you guys have any questions about it? >> My biggest question is, what about those parents who work? That's I'm looking at that. That's four days. >> And I get it. I I hear it. I hear it loud and clear. But I will say I feel like if we give enough notice
032that arrangements can be made for sure >> and the nest will be open for the daycare throughout. So you won't close it will remain open for them for the day so that our staff can utilize that as well. >> So it's the pair of professionals going to be part of his train. And those dates, if you're not looking at your supporting documents, are the 14th of January, 11th of February, [snorts] 11th of March, and the 8th of April. So, four dates. 14th January, 11 February, 11 March, and 8. >> Does this This doesn't affect this make you go? >> No sir. Because we will go past three hours. >> Okay. >> That's the impact. Then it would go and so collaborate planning will be from 12:30 to 3:30 in the afternoon. >> And is that
033for all staff like high school, middle school, >> everybody? They'd be across the board. Another thing, um, one of one of the reasons these early release dates are so important is our professional development that we have built into our calendar already. Our EAS are not paid to stay but three of those days. So like we're getting ready for a half day, a full day, and a half day. Well, they're only going to be there one of those days. And there are so many things that we have to do training wise for compliance across the board for educational assistance and for our certified staff that finding the time unless we're going to pay them for extra days that that's really hard. And I'll be quite honest with you, we struggle to get people to school on
034regular days. So trying to get them to come additional days is really going to be is going to be a hard ass. It really is. And doing things after school, that's not an option either for us. So much of our staff is either coaching or driving a bus or have other commitments that they cannot commit to for after school. >> I'll make a motion to approve this. >> Motion made by Jimmy Dell. Second made by Diane. Do roll call. >> Yes. Cook. >> Yes. Holland. Ora, >> yes. >> Jones, >> yes. >> Neil, >> yes. >> Snider, >> yes. >> All right. Next is the proposed Marbor Newton third grade plan. >> Board members, if you recall, there were two events that occurred. One was closing of a school in Oay County, which caused an
035influx of student growth in Langle. And then the second part of it was looking at data as it relates to students learning how to read. That's that CKLA presentation did earlier. The belief was is that by not sending rising third graders, excuse me, the second graders on the third grade [clears throat] teaching Margaret Newton wasn't proposing. So what we had set out was a timeline. The first thing to do was a survey which was sent out to staff and district out on the social media. So we did that as well. Um we talked about it again today. There wasn't anything that we saw that was a a concern. Actually there were more positives than anything like the streamlining of swag and um the connectivity of the third grade teachers learning how to teach students how
036to read. and that's usually outside of their scope and their responsibilities, but our students needed. There were concerns about teachers having to be moved, but when we think about student first decisions, there wasn't really anything of concern in that. Logistically, there was some uh it wasn't didn't come out in survey, per se, but when we had the community meeting at Warner Newton for those got to come attend, the bathroom situation came to light. Uh after that meeting, thankfully we figured out what was wrong. Lacy worked with a plumber and all of those bathrooms work. And I kept using the term one of our last board meetings. I said we had a ticking time bomb [snorts] in the infrastructure of the pipes in those bathrooms outside the cafeteria. So to the third grade point, the bathrooms
037are working right now. There is space there. I met with Linda talking about nutrition which she assured me was is we don't need new staff. We may need to add a little extra time in the master schedule to feed an additional 50 students. The through the lens of transportation it's a non-issue for technology. It's moving three flat screens or there's actually another grant where we're curing three flat screens anyway. Those could be end up in the building. It's a it's a computer cart for classroom through the lens of Lacy with maintenance and custodians and equipment. She provided us two plans. One is if we did a remodeling project because there would be an abatement in Margaret Mutton if that's what she chose to do. And then the other plan doesn't include an abatement. So it's
038a it's really a nonissue as far as moving equipment stuff. It would all happen as soon as the school was out depending on whether or not there was a remodel or not. The only additional staff that might be needed is through special. Is that right? And that would be an assistant to support those 50 students because the assistant at Lar Kendall works through third, fourth, and fifth grade. So, we would have to create an additional position. So, it's not additional full-time employees as far as teachers go. Maybe one assistant That would be a new employee. >> Ma'am, >> the [clears throat] assistant would be a new employee, not someone repurposed, >> right? Yes, ma'am. Is it ready? >> I started to say we we actually went down on our educational assistant [clears throat] I think
039just last motion that we approve moving the third grade to or leaving the second grade. So I do want to say this. The original time on your approved was you hearing all this information gave me a chance to ask you were going to do it in the January meeting for vote. That was how we left it. So you could hear all this information was how we originally did it. >> Yeah. Do you want to wait? >> That's up to you all. understand what the original plan was that you voted. >> You don't want to wait on January. >> Yes. >> So, I'll put it on the January for a >> next. You got it. Okay. [laughter] Presentation on Margaret remodel project. >> So board member here. Uh he represents Mckinry which is another professional services.
040I'm not gonna steal his but he provided you all [laughter] she let him present. You should all have a copy. Correct. Okay. Um, like Dr. B said, my name is Fontaine. This is John W, our construction manager. First, let me say I've done cops work before. I know how hard it is to get a phenomenal that you did it. And second, great that you got I mean that is really incredible. So, congratulations. Um, like Dr. Burton said, we [clears throat] I guess here locally we're kind of known as the peoples. Um, but we are a large engineering, architecture, and design build firm. So, we do large comprehens comprehensive projects all across the southeast, all across the nation with K12. So, this while it may seem like a, you know, really straightforward bathroom renovation, actually becomes
041more complex when we get into the nuances, looking at what is actually behind the wall. And when we're talking about, you know, fixtures, water basins, faucets not working, something we look at too is, you know, what is the sewer line run to? So when we have conversations of whether we want to bring third grade to Margaret Newton potentially, right, potentially expand capacity um anticipating another 70 students, but also accounting for what the current conditions are in the building. You know, for us in these projects, it really boils down to desired outcomes. And when speaking with your leadership team, you know, we've had the opportunity with the Stokes and Dr. purchase spent a lot of time in Margaret Newton, but also meeting with a lot of stakeholders. It boils down to these four things right at
042the top is conditions for students. Like I said, there are some wash basins that are not working. There are plenty of restrooms for, you know, restrooms that are not working. That's a that puts a strain on the students. Um, second is maintenance and operations. So, uh, we were digging through drawings before this board meeting, the last time this restaurant was worked on was 1981. And so, the way the way that buildings were built in 1981, are a lot different than they're supposed to operate now. For example, the plumbing chase, which if you know what a plumbing chase is, it's a small space between restrooms that has all the piping going out to a sewer line. Well, yeah. There's one image right there. That plumbing chase is probably 18 20 inches wide. All the pipes are
043running into it and so you cannot maintain it, right? Some of those pictures I would assume are probably original from 81. >> Yeah. [clears throat] Copper is iron or iron's life is about 50 years till it starts getting past life. So, so the the next thing though is like we talked about with, you know, potentially expanding capacity. You know, maybe it's not just moving third grade in, but maybe we do start seeing growth in enrollment. You know, we've got to have conversations about how do we futureproof a lot of these these spaces and a lot of these systems. Um, and then the fourth is delivering it in a turnkey project. You know, like I said, we do this work all the time. There are traps in construction work, right? Construction work is not easy. It's
044often dirty, but when you're talking about original build from 1981 that we've not worked on in 40 years, like Dr. Burton said, not to [clears throat] be hyperbolic, but there is a lot of intentionality that should go into this project. Albe it small, it is complicated, right? So, what is that? What does the the restroom actually look like? Right? So, like we've kind of talked about, it is one of the oldest restrooms at Margaret and because of its location within the building, it's one of the most used restaurants, right? Because it's the intersection between the main hall and the green restroom. So, students from the cafeteria are coming in to that restroom. You got all the classrooms coming into that restroom. So if we start losing capacity for [snorts] stalls and urinals, you then delay
045students, you know, from being students, students from getting back to their classes, students from enjoying time in the cafeteria. Like these are the things that we need to start thinking through earlier rather than later. And then again, the the capacity component we've already talked about. There's a lot of nonoperational basins. um faucets and so right what does this boil down to? We know it there needs to be a level of work. We've had some other people come and look at it, right? That's that's kind of a tricky part with what it is that we're assessing. There's a large spectrum on how we can go accomplish this. We've got a what you'll have to figure out as a board is well, how do you want to do that? Um, obviously things that we're recommending is let's
046figure out the minimal viable project to get the restrooms operating the way that it should it was originally intended to operate and then let's have discussions on what extra looks like, right? Let's have discussions on expanding the chase so that our maintenance team no longer has to go and potentially knock out walls, right? pipes can be easily replaced in the future. So the conversation that we're having here today doesn't have to happen again in 30 40 years, right? So there's a stewardship component to it as well. [clears throat] Some things that we also need to consider is so I say this feels relatively simple but because it was a 1981 build what we don't think about a lot of the time is if we start doing things to certain building systems you have to update
047it to modern code compliance. So restrooms that have not been ADA compliant, if you start doing certain things to a restroom, it will trigger compliance codes and will need a whole other layer of step that's required. So when when we've been meeting, it's really important to recognize that the way that we operate, we'll get to the delivery of it in a second, albeit desired outcomes, we try to be very intentional in the design process as well. So if we know there could be code compliance triggers, let's go ahead and get the authority having jurisdiction or a fire marshal, whoever it is, on board earlier rather than later. just make sure that whoever it is is a part of the design so that way we don't get to construction and we're having to redo a whole
048process. So there's no action tonight and there's a second part of this I want to talk about kind of how we [clears throat] you know procured if we were a partner but no action we're here to to present options and then have some dialogue if this meeting setting. Um, but before we flip it over, are there any questions that you may have for us? >> What is the minimal cost for just getting the restrooms pretty much working? And I think I was one of the people that went through the restroom. >> Um, what is what is the minimum to bring that up to where it's usable? Yeah. So, we're still playing with Plato. Let me say that, right? There's there's a lot of discovery that needs to be done. We ran some really early numbers.
049We think if we're doing it up to code, we're going and getting engineered drawings, so new modern engineered drawings. We're stamping it. Um, McKin Street is is general contracting it. where if we're doing the full thing, we probably think the range is anywhere between 300,000 to maybe six. You could go to seven if you want to put marble in all your >> think we can pay on there. I think you can too. But again, that's that's probably what what I would say. And [clears throat] that's turn key. One throw to show all of what we're expecting. That's >> just two bathrooms. All bathrooms be the boys and the girls. The green room by the cafeteria. Yes, sir. [clears throat] >> Two. Just two. >> Yeah. >> Not the ones down the back hole. the ones
050in the gym. >> Yeah. just well so we took a look at we took a look at the gym and we took a look at blue and so when we were on site we are we identified there is some work that could be done but a lot of the small stuff in the blue restroom you can do yourself right like that's part of this too is when when we get into a project like if you have resources that can address certain things without [snorts] leveraging a company like Mckistry we give you full authority to do it because costly competitive. If you've got resources you're already spending funds on, then it's better to do it that way. >> Does that answer your question? >> It's just >> keep in mind that part of the building was
051built in 1953. The new edition is 1981. >> I got another question. Anybody know the answer? May not. Is there asbesus in any of that stuff? >> I thought absolutely. >> It's gonna add to that cost. [snorts] [clears throat] >> But to be clear, tonight they're showing you what potentially this group could do. So, professional services, engineering, architectural group, because any project that goes over $25,000, we're required to have a general contractor. Anything that goes over $50,000, you're required to have professional services architect. So you would enter into an agreement with So we already have one agreement with a different firm. We've had agreements in the past with other firms. So this [snorts] is not out of the ordinary. Larger school districts have partnerships with multiple engineering architecture firms. So that's not out of the
052ordinary. Um they just wanted to make sure they got in front of me to show you this is what they could potentially do. um they would follow like what we have done the other remodeling projects the other the cops grant which is a design bid build process. So we've had the conversation of could we bid out all of these jobs ourselves? Yes. We don't [clears throat] have the ability to go out and get contractors like a larger firm can go and do. They have the connections. They have the resources. So there's give and take in doing that. So we firm like we've done in the past to build a scope of work because that's not what this is a scope of work from that design and build but the first part is doing a an
053understanding like anou that's the first step and [clears throat] that's what that the back of that one pager that's what that outlines right it's the the way that we engage with our clients typically it's in two phases there's an initial design phase which is where we work with with the board and we work with the leadership team to understand okay what what is it that we want to go do right what is it we want to go do online and we start putting together all of the building blocks to the project where we ultimately get to the end which culminates in another separate construction contract. So in that construction contract, that's when you'll contract with us. We would go and get our group of partners in addition to whatever partners you recommend because we acknowledge
054there are some local partners who are good fits for this type of work. So we want to make sure we're including [clears throat] that makes sense as well. And then everything rolls up to our group. So we'll manage it, make sure everything's code compliant, and then at the end of the day, if there is training required, we'll train your team and we'll turn the project over to your group. [snorts] I see that you got the construction basically in the summer. >> So that's something we need to talk about, right? Is with this type of work, summer construction is really important [clears throat] because it's a restaurant. We just talked about it being the most used restaurant in Margaret. And so if we're going to do this, we need to make sure that we're really intentional
055about our timeline because it will take about two to three months for us to design. When I say design, I'm not talking about just our engineering team [clears throat] who's actually running all the plumbing work. I'm talking about we're working with the architect to make sure and we've got architects on our team but we're working with the architect to make sure that everything is up to code. We're interfacing with code compliance with the authority having jurisdiction making sure that they sign off and approve. We're making sure that we have partners [clears throat] in place to go and execute the work and we're doing all the pre-construction work in that design phase so that when what is it May June call it uh May June latest we hit the ground running we're able to do all
056of the preconstruction work like Dr. said there's some basement and then we'll have a two to three month construction period to make sure that it's up and running by August. So for us to to guarantee that we need to have this kind of wrapped up by January so we can start designing our work. If not we start leaking into the school year which complicates things but it's worth familiar with. [clears throat] So if I understood what your ask was was if the board was interested if you drew up a proposal of what that would look like put you back on the agenda in January what the board would like and in the meantime you would have the proposal of what this would look but you would be entering into an agreement for um that you
057would have in there about money be closer on the money part. Yeah. So we'll figure you're talking about pre [clears throat] >> I guess giving them more information so they come back in January considering >> Yeah. What what I would ask and I actually just did this with the school district and in the upper Cumberland is you tell me what you need from us and we can go source whatever information helps you make a decision. Okay. Um but yes, we can have an drafted and presented to the board in January. That's selfish issue at all. Can the board give you an amount? I'm just thinking about the last job that we had done two jobs. We y we were given money through a grant that we applied for. >> So in that instance, the board
058told the contractor professional services, hey there's this amount of money and you build work for that amount of money. >> Is that a possibility? >> Are you asking? So we if I understand that that's it's a GMAX contract, right? It's a not to exceed essentially. Is that what you're asking? >> Yes. I think Yeah. I think the conversation I don't want to speak for the board. The conversations I've had in the past, the board was much more comfortable when there was an amount of money that came through a grant. Hey, we can't exceed this amount unless there was some circumstances beyond control. Like that's what we had to do at L Kendler because roofing know we were going to get into the turrets that were out there. So, I think giving them the option of
059giving you a ceiling might help. I think you gave them kind of a ballpark where you go to >> that feels a little more comfortable. >> Yes. [snorts] >> Like like three closer to 300,000 [laughter] closer 600,000. So if you're more comfortable with so if you're comfortable with that thought [clears throat] put them back on the agenda in January now that January that January meeting has to be as [laughter] if I can add one more thing to your question. So as we start talking about GMAX, what what we do during the design phase as well is there's usually a mechanism and so there's no cost associated with the district to enter into a design phase. There's usually what's called an exit. So let's say at the end of the day it doesn't work out. This
060is like doomsday. We only have this once and probably time, but we say, "Hey, you know, here's what what we expect the project to look like, and it's not manageable by the district. Whatever materials we've created, you take ownership of. So there's a a break fee associated with it. And so you'll pay the break free the break fee and then we contractually go personally. And then there's a another option is if the design part in itself is very costly. So building a scope of work takes a lot of manpower to get that done. So it's a lot of money itself. One of the options that we talked about is you could buy the scope of work. So that if you decided to hold, you decided to go with a different firm than you own that's
061work. So if it cost $50,000, that's yours to have. If you decide to act on it two to three years from now, then you have it, you can act on it later. So that's another option. But you can't expect them to build a scope of work without a commitment to pay. It's just that it's too much time. [clears throat] Did I describe that right then? >> Yeah. The only thing that I would add is when when we talk about scope of work, right, there's a couple different things. There's scope of work. If you were to go hand it to a a contractor, you know, it's essentially line item what instructions of what to go do. When we explore that option, it takes it a step further and because likely there will need to be some
062engineering and architecture work involved here. We could explore having everything stamped, which when you start getting designs stamped to approve by the state, that's when it adds kind of another triggering mechanism of cost. And so [clears throat] that we could provide you so you can go ahead and whoever. Again, that's not obviously our desired outcome because if we're helping them design it and we're intending to implement it, sometimes you get into the telephone game, people do things to want to make sure everything's done the way that it was intended, but it is an option. >> Scope of work is included within the within the design phase, which takes three months, right? Yeah. So that design phase. >> Yeah. So design phase thatou that we just talked about that would be to enter the design phase.
063So what that looks like is myself, John, [clears throat] our engineering team and our architecture team spending three months on site. Not always, but we're working that duration building up to what the project should look like. at that point where we've got a clear scope of work, right? Clear scope of work, clear engineering and design work, then we're going to execute a construction contract. So, you'll say, "Hey, Mckin, we we love that you're doing this turnkey and we love that you're getting our compliance officers involved. We're all go ahead. We've got funds and then we go execute. We'll actually start building the project. [snorts] Hopefully that was helpful. Like I said, you like Dr. you've gone through this process before. He he can help with the nuances and Miss Stokes can help with the nuances.
064Um but please if you have any questions after tonight, filter them to leadership and I'd be more than happy to get you answers. >> Can you do the work with Sorry, can you do the construction work with the Yeah, you want to talk about [clears throat] obviously during the summer best interacting with the children. Um, but if we did have to do the work while the children in school, we would obviously have it zoned off and probably some extra um honey buckets. We call honey buckets for >> outside possibly close for them to use for the >> Yeah, I mean it would probably trigger a little bit more time the [clears throat] safety around the children but it's still more we do [clears throat] we do a lot of work in schools. you know, some
065of the work you can do during the the summer. Sometimes you just have to do it when school is in session. So, there are ways. [clears throat] >> Yeah. So, John comes from our our legacy uh region, which is forgiving. I live here in Tennessee. So, Johnsburg, but we're originally from Seattle. Yeah. And so we started the boil we started this company 60 years ago and we started as a plumbing and piping company. So from our genesis this is in our DNA. >> So we've got ways to figure it out. [snorts] I'll add you to the January and I'll [clears throat] superintend you to go first. >> Yes. [clears throat] First of all, welcome vice president. You did very proud of what you have done. Good work. She go back and tell the student council
066how things work and how democracy works. Okay. Uh hello D board members. I want to go ahead and remind you all that next week December the 15th is through the uh 18th is our final exams but basically we'll take exams on by the 15th and 16th. This is our final exam as well as our midterms. Uh we are also have different types of ways a student can be um cannot take the uh student exams basically based on grades and also attendance. Um, as um, the vice president just stated, we did have a night of music which is tomorrow at six o'clock. The admission is $5. Not only are our students are going to be singing, but rumor has our teachers will also be singing as well as community members who will also [clears throat] and
067also admin will also be singing during that time. [laughter] Linking. Yeah, >> we're gonna try our best. We also would like you all to know that Lake County High School has the best we did thanks to, you know, the report from Miss Charlotte. Lake County High School has best overall staff attendance from August through November with 95% attendance, which is a great accomplishment for us. And we're also on track to show improvement in student behavior [clears throat] and disciples and to show us to show our students and our staff the gratitude of their hard work. We're going to have what Vice President Harris said. We are going to have a hype and chill day. This is a day where our students will just simply chill out. Uh we're going to have half of the uh
068school will be for students who want to get hyped with basketball, with all the singing, with lip singing. You can actually attend uh dance, but you also can chill, watch a movie, attend a yoga session, read a book, paint. We're going to have hype and chill. In order for you to be a member, in order for you to participate in Hype and Chill Day, you must be a part of the Zero Club. You must be a member of the zero club which was given to us by Dr. Sichas. Thank you Dr. Crisis for that idea. >> You're welcome. >> Zero failing grades, zero discipline referrals, and no more than three unexcused absences in order for you to attend. >> Tomorrow is also the celebration of loved ones. Our students have been asked to bring two
069students, two people that they love. This can be parents, grandparents, uh best friends, family. This also can be mentors. It can be members of the community. It can even be teachers. And we're going to have our 9th and 11th graders who will do theirs on Tuesdays from 11 to 11:30. And we'll have our sophomores and our seniors who will have theirs on Thursday from 11 o'clock to 11:30. But before that, we are also going to have great speakers to come and speak to our kids from 10:30 to 11 o'clock on the power of love. If anybody knows what love is all about, love never fails and also love is the greatest [clears throat] in the universe. And we also have brother uh Chuck Grant who will come and speak to our kids on Tuesday about
070the power of love. And also we have Trip uh Roby who will come on Thursday to speak about how love lifted them and how love delivered them. And last but not least, we invite you all to come to our basketball games. We have one at Westview today and we also have bells which is also on Friday. Um other than that we that is it. Thank you >> Dr. >> [laughter] >> We might hall be singing tomorrow night [laughter] group that's been working with us is wrapping up. We had one finish today and we met with her and her cohort and they have been amazing and our teachers have grown a little bit. I've been in classrooms and I've seen things that we weren't doing when I first got here was August. But that shows the
071improvement that we're seeing. So, thank you all for approving that because without them, we would still grow, but maybe not as much. Um, today we had the Let's Make Litter Disappear magic show. So, the magician came and he did a really good job. He did an elementary one and then a middle school one. And I had a middle school teacher come to me afterwards and say, "Okay, I wasn't kidding. This was real magic." And I was like, "Come on now." She said, "No, he said, "Read this." this and she started reading. He snapped his fingers. She couldn't read anymore. She said that didn't make sense. The letters were confusing. And then he said, "Are you sure?" And she could read it again. So she was amazed. And then I was amazed. I was like, I
072thought it was some kind of It was real magic, apparently. But the kids loved it. So that was good. It was part of a grant, you know, that we've gotten about the litter. So that was really cool. Um, over the past few weeks, we have a group of leadership of our leadership team has been working hard on MTSS program on behavior, how we can improve. We've recreated in a way our behavior matrix and we're going to introduce that to the faculty during our inservice next week and roll it out to the students. I really think it's going to make a difference. Our student behavior is improving, but I think this is really going to make a big difference for us in the second semester. Um, next week we're our first Falcon Store. Kids are excited.
073They get to spend all those points. We've got candy. We've got hats. We've got sunglasses. We've got all kinds of cool stuff for them to buy. And that's going to be a really good day for them because they've been waiting for a while. fun. We've had our house days. Our final house day will be on the 17th uh to wrap up the first semester. We've done a lot of fun things this semester, but I really feel like we're going to do more next semester because now I get it. When you get it, it's helpful. So, now that I really get it, I really feel like it's going to [clears throat] be better. And I just want to say I'm wrapping up my first semester there, Kendall. I've learned a lot. I've come a long way.
074I'm gonna get better. I still struggle from day to day, but there's a lot of people in this room that have helped me. So, thank you. Dr. Elliott, Sunny, Dr. Burton, Bri, Gerald, everybody that's helped me. I really appreciate it and I'm doing the best for these kids. I really believe when I got here, I told you people said, "Why in the world are you going to Lake County?" Now know I'm here. So, I thank you very much for your time. >> Thank you. >> Hello everyone. Um, thank you board members for approving those early release days. We are looking at two [clears throat] instructional pieces right now with Miss Amanda kids first and Miss Carav intervention. We are looking at our small groups revamping how we [clears throat] push into our RTI looking at
075how our students do their independent practice and this that early release time is really going to help us get move forward. We're trying we have a pacing guide and we get and we plan but it will really help us to move forward and do what's best for students as we have the time to look at the data and work through it to see what's best for kids. So those are our two things with kids first that's really been going great. um family engagement next week. December 16th at 4:15 will be our Christmas stations that we'll do different things swag and December 17th. I hope y'all can come out starting at 8:30 for our Christmas musical when all our students will be performing it. >> December the 11th I had met with Connie Hopper Connie Hopper
076with the senior citizen center in Ridgley and the prison had built a Santa's mailbox and delivered it had their unveiling last week. [clears throat] So in cooperation with this operating senior citizens, Margaret Newton's writing their letters to Santa >> and we're delivering them with police escort down there and then the seniors down there are going to help make sure those letters get. So that's going to be an event that y'all more than welcome to attend. Um, Lacy, you said picking them up at 8:30, four buses, take them down to Ridgely, dropping them off about nine o'lock >> with an escort with local law enforcement. So, thank you. I just have to say there are such awesome things going on in our schools. I mean I sincerely mean that makes the heart feel good. Thank you.
077Next is other business. Any other business? >> Yes, I have some. Um, I was approached by a parent and um, she talked to me about the limited access to the kids classrooms during like parties and stuff that they wanted to take food down to their child's classroom and being able to access those classrooms. Um, I know basically that pretty much stopped when CO started and um I think that we need to figure out a way I know that um with the new security um that Mikey was talking about that might help some. But I think a parent if they want to just take a pizza down [clears throat] to a classroom should be allowed to stay and serve that pizza and visit there for a minute. You know, we want community support of our families,
078our children. Um, but that really creates a barrier and I don't know what the answer is other than just letting the parent go back there. Now, obviously, we know that there are people who might not need to be back there. But um [clears throat] there's some way that y'all think we can go back to a different way to do that. >> So we've had a lot of conversations and you're exactly right. Co stopped it from happening not only here but districts across the state. I think it was an opportunity for districts and schools to hit the pause button on those visitors because I think I can liken it to the cell phone policy. You saw cell phone policies in which the district took the brunt of giving out consequences at the district level of saying
079if you do this and the district if your policies agree this is what consequences after COVID happened district offices dance is we're not going to have deserves in the buildings anymore so that the principles didn't have to be the bad guys the principles didn't have to say you're allowed to come in you can come in and deliver the pizzas that I'm sorry ma'am, you cannot come in um because you very well could be a distraction to the class. So the stance was much more from this office than it was putting the principles in that situation just stopping it. And so part of that obviously was with the safety part and it it's going to become if we put it back into the principal's laps and they're going to have to start making those decisions of
080who can who can't, who's allowed, who's not allowed. And that's a tough situation to be in. That's why it was a kind of a cover on. And you're right, it used to be where we had parents that volunteered in rooms. We had grandparents that volunteer. >> But if I want to go to a classroom, even as a board member, I can't walk through that classroom without special. And I I you know, for this parent, it was very frustrating. And you know, I get it. I mean, my mom brought cupcakes every birthday I had in elementary school. [cough] Me and my sisters, and I don't think she was the only one. There [clears throat] were other parents who did that. I think that I think we are keeping parents who would help our teachers out of
081the building. And I just I don't think that's right or fair. >> So, that was the reason as to why it happened. And that's where it's going to get back to putting that on the principles of deciding who can. >> Well, obviously we don't want to let somebody who's intoxicated walk in our schools >> and I don't think they would. >> I mean, if they were bringing things to the class, they need prior approval time. How can the principal feel about that? >> Would you want it to be up on each of you to handle an incoming parent that wants to come in and go into his or her child's classroom? Would you be comfortable? I don't mean to put you on the spot, but just something. >> The first um instinct that I would
082have to do is consider is the second job. Um what is this parent coming? is the story. Is there any enemies going on here? That's the first thing I'm going to have to assume. This come in here and celebrate, but we also might have someone who it will be a safety issue for the high school level. And I don't know how I would say middle school and elementary school, but the parent comes down here to party with the high school student. Uh it's kind of different as opposed to an elementary and a middle school. Uh I would have to see it as a 100% safety [clears throat] issue. [cough] here without metal detectors, without being scammed, without being um carefully thought of before we go in because we we we have to assume in high
083school. I'm sure it's going to be more of an elementary, you know, situation. I'll be honest, I haven't thought too much detail. I know probably talking about she was lovely. Um, and when we had a great conversation, um, but to be honest, I haven't put a whole lot of thought into it since that moment. [laughter] It's just it's hard, you know, you tell this parent, you know, you may have been in jail. I don't know, right? But now that we've got the system, hopefully Mike might never get all of a sudden I scan. Well, you can't be here to celebrate with your child. That's not only embarrassing for the parents, embarrassing for the child. So, we've been thinking about those things. It's not saying everybody's back. We have a lot of good parents that could
084come in all day long, but I think it's it's going to be really difficult to tell those ones that maybe do have a proper record and they can't come out of school or, you know, they may have something on their ID that says they're, you know, have done something to children. And kind of piggy back at Dr. Elliot, I worked in a school where a parent came in and they came in to celebrate a party, end up going off on a child who was being mean to their child. Their agenda was actually to take out my child. I saw it first. So, that makes me nervous. I do see it both sides from that parent wanting to come in and you only get so many kindergarten birthdays and first grade birthdays. um I would feel
085more comfortable when those security higher security measures are put in place potentially with the cop grant and that's why I see the balance between we have so many family engagements where there are opportunities for them to come >> and make them family engagements you know >> confidentiality of of other children is also key we don't want to preach any confidentiality of other kids But it's worth >> it is something I see. So is it just a no y [clears throat] so would y'all consider considering all of those >> I hear what you're saying but I'll just be perfectly blunt. There are some parents that perhaps you would not want them in your building for various reasons. You know, there may be some parents that are hate to think ill, but some parents that might create
086some havoc, you know, be being disrupted, you know. So [clears throat] gosh, I guess it's just I mean if we go with this it's a judgment call laid on you all which is actually what Dr. said at the beginning of this >> it's going to become a judgment call every time. >> Yeah. >> What is your intent? >> You know I can think of some parents that it's best that they come to your show and other parents it would be wonderful >> and at the same time in the absence of the parent we are the parent. So it's not only is what they were saying is you're allowing that parent to come in for their child, but they also have access to all of the other things. So at that moment in time, those other
087parents didn't get permission that it was okay >> and they could create some trouble. >> That's right. >> Safety nightmares. >> It's a safety nightmare and it's a lot of liability on kids because they allow a parent come in and they do something stupid in there, we're gonna be This is 2025 guys. No, >> I mean even when I was bring she still had to get permission >> from the principal to bring it in. I mean that was an issue you know she had like you know I want to bring something for his birthday or whatever. Okay. Well what day? >> Yeah. you know, she even then it wasn't just you to get permission. It was just she had to have prior permission to do it. And then I've had the school call my mom
088and say, "Hey, will you come sit?" [laughter] >> Yes. When um When would we like to do a work session? >> It was mentioned in a text Saturday. >> How much how much time do we have to give notice for work? I was thinking it was seven days. Seven days. >> I think it's 48 hours. I think it's in the possible >> maybe 15 or the 18. >> I'm pretty I know it's holiday. >> The 15th at 6. >> I'm fine. >> Yes. and we'll get that posted. [snorts] [clears throat] All right. Any other business? One moment. Um, how much do we're talking about spending? $300,000. I don't know how much is in our current budget or general purpose. >> When you get that update, there's a column in there. When you look at the
089update, you did it. It tells you in there. >> Budget versus finance. It'll say budget and it tells you what's in each fund. But we also have almost $400,000 coming back as um [snorts] we get reimbured for the last period. It is um I believe it says yeah it says Lake County School Board update it starts this is where Okay. >> Yes ma'am. >> So it's not in >> it says fund balance and it tells you um what the GP the federal and tax allowances are. And every once in a while she sends me what my dog scholarship has and I include that as well. >> You said this is one one million 1.4 the fund balance is all we have. >> Yes. Because there's there's another 400 coming in the cop that we've already
090paid out. Um, >> did we not have y'all correct me if I'm wrong, but this this time last year, did we not have four million fun? >> At one point we did. We had almost four million. So, there was the commitments about the insurance, the remoding. [clears throat] >> Trying to remember what those other commitments of the board did. >> We spent $2 million out fun. So there was the retirement account that was adjusted remodeling Kle the extra money that was insurance have you already >> those together that's already back >> it was 616,000 we have to pay our portion of But they returned the >> 600. But we still [snorts] got 400 coming in. [clears throat] I'm not sure. >> Back up to >> Yeah. But each month that is put in your I
091think I need it in a different format. I don't know why I didn't see that, but it's a lot of money and I just can't figure out where it's all at. when you reconcile with the the first are we reconciled with underneath that you'll see where it says the um CRS CPA update and each month there's a a status update to where where they are on that um she's she's done the cafeteria budget um with the trustee she's up through February of 25 that [clears throat] they have a plan in place to come see us um in house. We've started with July. So that way we have this current year and moving forward in house that we've done. So that way we don't have to wait on them to start again. We started in house
092with some of it. So that way we're not having to start from the July and make it finished. >> [snorts and clears throat] >> Any other business? >> Meeting a journ. >> [laughter] >> We know a great job.