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LSS BOE Work Session 09-2-25

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YouTube / Lakeland School System
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2025-09-03
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Shelby County, TN
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7,375 words · about 41 min
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2026-06-09

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001There it goes. >> Creative ways you can do this and all the time. >> Sure. >> So, keep working on >> if you eventually get over the hump. Great. If you don't >> Yeah. probably need to just start this first. >> We should just asking you every month. That's okay with you. >> That's totally fine. I literally got carried away. >> I don't see one. We have so many people groups getting stage and national honors that >> every weekend Martin's like just put it on your schedule once the board agenda come or meeting counter comes out. >> Yeah, >> you're going to be there. >> That's usually every year. So, did we say we weren't did we say we weren't going to sign up for legislative and legal clinics because we're going to do our

002>> Okay, >> that's the big one. >> Is this >> Wait, something I can get this to work. >> They might appreciate that there are a couple fewer people there to >> We are usually regulars, but >> Yeah, I missed one. I used to go to >> Yeah, legal. >> We showed up to one >> this past year, the year before. And my brother's best man from >> Oh, yeah. >> Wow. >> Yeah. the gatekeeper. >> When are we going to start having meetings? >> I don't know. Only if somebody has something to talk about. >> Never actually seen it. >> I guess that was >> Yeah, I think he'll ask anybody. >> It was. >> Yeah, I think so. I'll take you drive from there to here. At some point there's going to be

003a >> you were >> room. >> Oh um just the agenda. Yeah. >> Go to your email on Thursday August 21st. >> Just kind of curious to have an excuse to check. >> It's also like 10 minutes shorter at least >> each way. I thought I had already opened it, but now it says I can't open it. >> I need to be careful. >> Did you change the link for the emergency operations >> plan? I think so. >> Listen. >> I thought it was a DF. Let me see. >> I think I already opened it once, but it's saying denied now. >> Okay. Give me just a second. If you forget your Red Bull tripod, >> huh? It's not like it's, >> you know. >> Yeah. >> Quiet. >> What date was it on? >>

004August 21st. >> See if there's any any information he has about it. >> When I first started, it was Lake. >> I'm Yeah, it doesn't let me view it either. >> Three, four corner back there. That's all. Bill spot one there. >> That's weird. >> Like Ted Rachel was trying to actually >> You can bring your kids. It's saying you're a viewer and can't manage. >> I think you changed the >> creator >> um permission. So, I need to get permission as an editor. Thank you. >> But then I tried it like just as a viewer and I couldn't even do it as a viewer. >> Yeah, but I could have sworn I opened it back. >> I'm sure you did cuz I was able to open and I was able to share it and

005um >> Okay, >> I I'll check. >> Okay. Well, we have till next week if we need need it. So, >> do not disturb. Try to make sure my phones are Yeah. >> Okay. Second. All right. I have 55. I will call the meeting to order. If everyone would stand for the moment of silence and the pledge. You face the flag. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Amber recorder, if you could call the role. Chair Laura Harrison >> present. >> Vice Chair Jeremy Bernett >> here. >> Michelle Childs >> here. >> Keith Actton >> present. >> Deborah Thomas >> present. Um we do have a quorum. This is our

006work session. So this um the board will go through the items and give direction to the superintendent and the secretary about what will go on our next week's agenda and how we would like to proceed. So Dr. Hl, if you would lead us through the agenda. >> I certainly will. Uh the first item on the agenda is the opportunity for public comment. >> Would anyone from the public like to speak? >> Hearing none. Next item. >> Uh next item is the report section and I would request permission to do the superintendent report and our special recognitions uh in advance of the legislative update. >> Is there any objection by the board hearing? None. Go ahead, Dr. H. >> Okay. Thank you. And I'm going to let me switch the view here and go down to

007the front. And I am realizing they moved the camera back. So, I'm going to move that podium just a bit. >> We all want to proceed now. >> Yeah. [Music] >> All right. Well, uh I think I speak for the members of the board of education here when I say one of our favorite things to do uh at schoolboard meetings is to recognize our amazing students and coaches and teachers and sponsors uh when they do uh incredible things. And we have a a group of young men here that uh did something incredible. And uh I know not the whole group is here, but that just tends to be the case. Everybody's so busy. And uh we're very thankful for those of you that were able to come out. But we want to recognize uh the

008and somebody always correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Uh the very first boys high school soccer team in the history of Lakeland school system uh to represent Lakeland Prep in the state soccer tournament. So, uh this is incredible. Uh they did it without the benefit of a senior class, uh which is also incredible. And uh we just want to take a moment and recognize your hard work. So here's what we're going to do. We take lots of pictures. Okay. So, uh I'm going to call each of the students um that we think are here. And if you'd like to come up and get your picture with your family or with your group of folks that are here to support you, you can come on up. Come on up and do

009that. And then uh when we get done, we will uh do a group photo with all of the guys and the coaches that are here and we're going to kind of knock it out that way. Does that all work? Okay. So, I'm going to move I'm checking with DJ mainly because he's going to take the photos. All right. So, I'm going to move this. And DJ, can we stand over here and do the pictures? I'll announce here. Okay. All right. So, and if I say anybody's name incorrectly, just correct me. You're welcome to do that. It's not rude. It's not disrespectful. You can just say your name correctly. All right. Kareem Romero. Is Kareem here? No. Oh, he didn't make it. Okay. We had some RSVPs and we're starting with those. Yonderly Vatro. No. Okay.

010Are these in order? Maybe they're not. >> Okay. >> Kareem. All right. >> You're right on time, Karee. Come on up. >> Congratulations. You want to stand here? >> Okay. And you want to hold this board. Okay. We're Yeah, we're just >> Come on. Smile. >> And in fact, coach, why don't y'all come up? I'll tell you. >> It would be better if it was balanced. Thank you. >> Clap for all right. Uh Chris Ramos, are you here? Chris, come on up, Chris. All right. Hold that on the middle. >> Thank you. Now, y'all have heard Dr. I said you just come on up. You don't have to. >> I didn't get in with Kareem, so I'm just sitting be all of them. I'm just >> Okay. know that you can. We went over that.

011>> Does your family want to take photos? >> Oh, you want to come and get a family photo? Yeah. Thank you. [Music] This is much more important than anything we're going to do the rest of the time. over here. >> Trey, come on down. [Music] Hold on. Wait. Not tall enough that Come on. Congratulations. >> Great. [Music] No, this is perfect. Luca, Daniel. [Music] >> Thank you. >> Awesome. I know, right? >> Thank you. Okay, >> congratulations. All right, we got [Music] >> this. I'm trying to figure out. >> Very good. Alvin. >> Great. Okay. >> Is there anybody? Yeah. >> I was going to say it's going to be the last one. >> Sebastian Buer. There you go. Thank you. >> Great. >> All right. And then we also we'll take off one at

012a time. We'd like to congratulate the coaches as well. And as we are about to do, we have a special pin for state achievement in this case, uh, making it to the state tournament. And I want to recognize Jake. All right. And then if we can players, can you all come back up and we'll get one big picture. [Music] >> All right, guys. is fine. [Music] >> I think the coaches are like this. [Music] >> Can everybody see me? I think I can see everybody. >> Great. All right. So, we like to make this clear. You are welcome to stay, but it will not be rude to anyone in here if you leave. Also, we know you have things to do. We thank y'all for making some time to come tonight, and we appreciate your

013contributions. Thank y'all so much. Congratulations, everybody. They really want to hear about it. >> But you do need to stay if you want the credit. >> My mom actually texted me today. >> So excited. [Laughter] >> All right, let me check our screen here. All right, let me reload this and make sure it's all still right. Okay, I love that. >> That number is so good. >> Okay. Uh I if it's okay with uh with you, Madam Chair, I'll pick up with my report. Just share a few things. >> Yes. Good. It's working. >> Everybody good? >> Back in place or back in Yes. Okay. Great. >> Okay. All right. Uh well, uh happy to report and and grateful to report we've had a very smooth and good start to the school year so far.

014So, uh it's hard to believe that it's September 2nd already and after Labor Day. Um we good? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Grab you want. Uh a couple things to share and uh I've made the board aware of of these already, but uh we are excited in our health sciences program at Lakeland Prep to start a certified clinical medical assistant program and there was actually an introduction to that today to make sure that uh these students are are off to uh to a strong start. It's a very uh um challenging exam, so it will not be for the faint of heart for sure, but I know we've got a group of students that are uh willing and able to do that, and we're excited for them. and uh Mr. Uhirron was meeting with them

015in fact today is my understanding. Um we've done a number of security enhancements at the district office uh including um uh secure entry and updated the badging system and the alarm system. So we're uh getting that implemented. Also having some additional signage uh that's going to be done there. Um, I want to uh recognize the uh the student government association that did an amazing job with the Makea-Wish um uh celebration at the uh at Lakeland Prep as well. And also want to acknowledge that today in a very small ceremony, but we did have the PTA uh board cut the ribbon on the Lakeland Elementary School pavilion project. That is something that uh they have been working on for several years. Um, it was a big investment and I I do want to note that the

016PTA paid for it in its entirety from from start to finish. They paid for the architecture and engineering services and uh for the installation and it really looks great and uh because we uh cut the ribbon today, my understanding is Miss Lockheart's going to say that teachers can start signing up and using it uh immediately. So, we're excited to to see how that pavilion gets used for celebrations and and other events in the school. Um, so I did want to note just looking ahead um that uh we are looking to a change in the uh school board schedule and that is on the agenda for November. Um but in October there will only be one meeting and that is the business meeting on October 6th. So certainly open for any questions that you might have.

017>> Any questions for the superintendent? Um I just had a comment that I'm very very excited about the um certified clinical I don't even know all the the whole medical assistant >> medical assistant program. Yes, I was I looked into that after um you had sent us some information and it just sounds like such a great opportunity for our students that are interested in the medical field and I'm just already excited about our new hireup. um say that you know just all the work that he's doing with um uh the CTE program. >> Great. Thank you. >> Any more questions from the superintendent? Hearing none. Next item. >> Uh next item is the legislative liaison update. >> Miss Childs. Um so right now the general um assembly is not in session. So I don't have

018a report. However, um later in the agenda um Dr. Oral and I will be um presenting uh some resolutions. So I will just save it for when we get to that on the agenda. >> Thank you, Miss Charles. Next item. >> Uh next item is the monthly financial summary. And uh we're going to do this a little bit different. I previewed this with the board, but uh our uh um chief of finance Tristan Gaitley Sweat is going to present just a few very basic slides kind of on uh where we are in reference to the budget and kind of few notes about how we get there. So, I'm going to turn it over to you as I switch the camera angle here, Mr. Gaitley Sweat. I'm going to actually um put it on your presentation

019and uh just one second. Okay, you can go ahead and I'll let you introduce it and then I'll switch over to the presentation. >> Okay. Thank you, Dr. Horl. I'm Tristan Gaitley Sweat, CFO Lakeland School System. Thank you for the opportunity board. Um this is just something different I'm trying. Um this is the first monthly finance presentation of the 2526 budget. Um and so I just wanted to kind of put this before you some kind of ideas of ways that we could present the information. Um and this is a living breathing document. I'm not married to this format. I want to provide you the information and the transparency that you need uh for your constituents. And so feedback is certainly requested. >> All right. Can I skip? I think you should be able to switch

020it. I think there's a there and it's all new. >> Oh, clicker or is it on here? >> There's a little click or the small one. I think if you hit the center button, I think it's going to advance for you. There you go. >> You'd think I'd have remembered from the budget process, but you know, >> that's okay. Uh, this was just some highlights of what this budget accomplished with your support. Um, Lakeland school system added 12th grade for this school year. Prioritize student achievement, safety, some of the things that Dr. Hull mentioned, and well-being. invested in the employees that serve Lakeland school system. This is a structurally balanced budget. Um the controllers's office was very happy about that. Um I think this budget has revenues that can easily cover the expenses that that

021we project and um we were able to add the 12th grade and set up a a more sustainable path moving forward knowing that we won't be adding an additional grade span each year. Um, and there was no increase to meal prices or LEAP fees as part of this budget. This is just a graphic example. I still have provided the expense summary that you're typically used to seeing. Um, that breaks down each what we call function, just regular instruction, special education, just your various programs that the state of Tennessee recognizes. Um, this is just a chart that shows the percent spend uh of the budget on each general fund program. The only one that kind of stands out is that 42% for the board and that's just purely a function of the calendar. The uh insurance

022renewal is budgeted in the board of education's function and we pay that July 1 every year. So that obviously is the lion share of the board of education's functions budget. Um and nothing else really stands out here. technology 24% would be trending high year-over-year, but once again, it's a seasonality thing where most of our technology contracts are renewed July 1. So, we pay those invoices July 1. You see that, you know, line item jump to 100% and that leads to a, you know, pretty significant outlier for the first couple of months, but it'll level off throughout the year. Um, you know, anything else, uh, that stands out, uh, transfers out. We don't have any regular capital outlay. none. Um other bonus pay, those were typically later in the year. So if I'm looking at the

023total spent um across all Lakeland school system funds, got 9% of the just under $37 million budget, and that's across all funds. So that would include not only your general fund, but your federal programs, nutrition, transportation. As we know, most of those funds don't have any activity in the month of July, which is what this report would represent. We'll see those start to tick up throughout the year. All right. And then this was just kind of one to start off the year. This may evolve throughout the year to represent more of how we are trending with our revenues. July is a pretty lean month on revenues. We don't get a Tissa payment in July, which is the largest source of revenue for Lakeland school system. We don't get a property tax payment till the end,

024and it's very few not many pe people are paying their Shelby County property taxes in July. Um, and so, but this this one just kind of sets the tone for how do we pay for it all? 55.6% is Tissa. Um, 21.3% is Shelby County property taxes. 15.2% Shelby County sales taxes. Uh, a little piece on wheel taxes that Shelby County uses to supplant some of the property tax collections that aren't received. Um, we do we do record that separately. Lakeland property taxes just over 2% so just on the city of Lakeland uh 15 cent equivalent itself. Um and then other state of Tennessee 3.3%. You've got another little tiny sliver of other in there that's baked in. Other state of Tennessee would just include the the things that the state of Tennessee remmits to Lakeland

025school system that aren't baked into the TISA formula itself. So they ask us to record those separately. So what I'll try to do moving forward is provide and once we actually have activity in most of these accounts is provide you an update of where we are. You know we budgeted to receive x amount of TISA dollars this is what has been received year to date and if there are any outliers that we have. Yes ma'am. >> Um so there's no so is this just saying for like the last month or is this what you're projecting for the whole year and also there's no federal funding. >> This would just be the general fund only. >> Oh. So, I've just got general fund only here. Um, our federal fund specifically, um, federal special education, uh, I

026don't know that I have that one right in front of me exactly, we haven't received any of our federal funds yet due to them being on hold for a brief moment of time. And we're waiting on the state to approve our carryover amount, which will finalize our, you know, budget for the year. You actually do have a budget amendment before you tonight that does just that for the Perkins basic funding. Once those final adjusted budgets come in, we present to the board and and that typically happens in the fall. >> I mean, and it's a pretty small amount of the I mean, I think most people think the federal funds way more than it funds. >> Absolutely. I I can get you the exact number if you'd like. It's about 450,000 for IDA, which is

027the largest source of federal funds, and title one comes in second at about 120,000, and then therefore you, you know, you drop pretty considerably after that. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yes, ma'am. But I can certainly provide an update on those federal funds at at the next meeting when we do have activity. Okay. >> And kind of put them in a similar graphic as well. >> Okay. And this is just a budget overview. I'll try to update this throughout the year. This shows you kind of where we are right now. Revenues, expenses per fund. You will notice that total all funds expenses do exceed revenues. That's entirely attributed to fund 177 and the funding of the outdoor pavilion as Dr. H just mentioned, which was fully funded by the PTA. The donation was a restricted

028donation that was received in the prior year, but the expenses were not incurred until the current year. So, it shows a use of fund balance, but it's entirely attributed to the restricted donation that was received in a prior year. Every other fund is balanced to the penny. And there's the I should have just skipped ahead. The federal programs is just over a million dollars of a 37 some odd million dollar budget across the board. And that concludes this presentation, but if you have any questions about this or if you want to see something new for the next presentation or if you have any questions about the amendments that'll be presented, I'm I'm here. >> Any questions? >> I I have one. This was good. I If I missed uh this presentation in my emails, then

029I want to apologize. Was this sent out in advance? >> It was. Okay. I I'm did not see it, so I apologize for not being prepared with it, but it looks really good. and thank you for the information. So, >> Miss Bernett, >> um, same thing. I I passed this to Dr. Horl yesterday or this morning, but thank you so much. This looks great. I think I've mentioned to you individually. I love a a good donut chart. Anyway, um, they just for you. >> That's right. Um, and then I've given Dr. H some feedback for a few additional things I'd like to see moving forward, but Yes, sir. Great job. Thank you. >> Thank you for being here. Appreciate it. and we will I'll I'll let you know if there's questions on the amendment later.

030>> Sounds good. >> Thank you, Mr. G. >> Dr. Hor, next item. >> Uh the next item that's not germaine for the work session is the approval of the agenda. Uh we do have several items uh that were included in the consent agenda um for the board. So certainly if you have any questions on those certainly ask. >> Since this is a work session, we'll skip over the approval of the agenda. the consent agenda. Is there any objection to moving all these items to the consent agenda for next week? Hearing none, all items will move to the consent agenda for next week. Next item. >> Uh the first discussion action item was our internet safety measures presentation from uh Dr. Wanda Terrell, our chief of technology. Uh I am requesting that that be moved to

031the uh business meeting without objection. It it won't be tonight because she's unable to give it tonight, but we'd like to do that for the business meeting. Any objection to having that at the business meeting next week? Hearing none, we will have that on the business meeting for next week. Next item. >> Next item is the discussion on the preliminary legislative agenda. >> Um, do you have or can you send us a refresher of our one that we the one pager that we have every year just so everybody has a copy of it fresh in the top of their email? >> Absolutely. >> I know you've sent it to us a million times, but certainly would be helpful. >> It's all right. Yeah. >> to have the the latest. Um, so and I know everybody

032we've talked about it before, local control, all the ones that we have had on there for for the past several years. Um, I guess the question for the board would be, is there any items you would like to see added to the legislative agenda, modified on the legislative agenda based on what we have carried over the past several years? So, I'll open the floor for discussion or we can save it for next week when when everybody has the um legislative agenda like our current one in front of them. If that would be better, give everybody time. >> Yeah. And I I think uh just even introducing it here at the work session, if anybody has any uh thoughts, you can send them directly to me and then I'll confer with Miss Childs, our uh legislative

033liaison about um you know what the what the best place to uh >> and to make sure they're all addressed. So if you have any concerns about our current legislative agenda and how it's outlined in the one pager, the one pager has worked well with our legislators to make sure that it gives them a very succinct messaging from us that so they aren't reading through as many things and if we're communicating with them, we can give them our one pager. So if there's anything that's not covered there, please send it over to Dr. Horl. All right, next item. >> Sorry, I'm trying to share that in real time. Uh so next item uh this is certainly related uh to the legislative agenda and Miss Charles has alluded to it. We have three um different resolutions

034that we're uh proposing be adopted uh by the school board and then submitted to TSBA for consideration uh by the TSBA uh membership general assembly. And we can certainly take those one at a time. >> Remind us I know we think we got an email. What's the due date for the legislative items for TSBA? Till >> it's >> this month. Right after >> our business meeting. Okay. >> The day after uh the next meeting probably. >> So this will make these would make it in time for the TSBA. Okay. >> All right. Miss Childles, if you would like to or Dr. Horl, whichever one to cover the kind of summary, I guess of the item number three. >> Well, I'll ask Dr. to take us through this. But um uh you know you'll see one

035that we've had this will be the third year in a row and then um the other two were um so I I had asked Dr. Well, you know, when you talk with your leadership team and the staff, um, you know, what are things that we could try and put forward that make, um, things hard? Um, especially because a lot of times, um, you know, things have acred over time. So, um, so I'll let him speak to that. And then, and then one of them was, um, he also asked, um, for feedback on what would be helpful to staff. So, I'll let you. >> Yeah. So, we'll take number three first. Three is a resolution requesting the creation of a task force to evaluate and reduce the number of legislative regulations for public schools. Um this

036is essentially asking for the legislature to take some action to systematically go through the current regulations for public schools. We've done some versions of this and submitted them to uh to the state department of education to legislators, but we're hoping to put some of the onus on them and seeing if we can get the right group together. uh they may be able to go through and say look these are these are things that are required that no longer should be or maybe are too ownorous. I think if we can get a statewide conversation going on that uh there may be the opportunity to reduce some of the um basically regulatory burden on LEAs. Uh my hope would be that um or I think our collective hope would be that perhaps now that the voucher resolution

037or voucher legislation has been passed and there is a clear lack of parody between what private schools are asked to do and what public schools are asked to do that they there may be more of an appetite for this kind of conversation and to say now that we're all getting taxpayer dollars are the things we can look at that um we are being asked to do that private schools are not being asked to do. I don't think there's an appetite uh in most cases for asking the private schools to do all the things that we're asked to do. Um so it does seem like a a fair request um which may or may not mean anything to say are there things that we can take off us regul in a regulatory way. So rather than

038try to capture them and write individual resolutions, this is really just to kind of get the the the ball rolling. >> Any discussion on this item hearing? None. Um, is everyone okay with this going on our agenda? Would you rather it go on the business or is everybody comfortable with it going on the consent agenda? >> Agenda. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, we'll put this item as number eight, I guess, on the consent agenda for next week. >> Next item. >> All right. Uh, the next uh resolution we brought is a uh a resolution requesting the eligibility of all Tennessee public school system employees for the Tennessee public higher education fee discount program. And I can give some background on that. We tried to uh basically describe the situation within the resolution itself. But

039right now there are a number of categories of uh basically state employees that are allowed to get a significant discount on uh college tuition in the state of Tennessee. So, they get a 25% discount on enrollment fees for undergraduate courses um to the children of certain full-time employees of the executive, judicial or legislative branch of state government. So, they are eligible for the discount. Now, full-time employees of public schools who are licensed teachers are also eligible to for the discount. But full-time employees of public schools who are not licensed teachers are not eligible for the discount. So essentially, and I want to thank uh our chief of human resources, Jessica Milspa, for uh basically bringing this to my attention, uh basically the request would be that we add uh full-time employees of public schools to

040the list of those eligible for the discount. Um we just have to see what they say. I mean, it's they don't it's not that specific among the other branches of state government. It's really just public school employees um that they say if you're a teacher, you get it and if you're a non-teer, you don't. >> Any discussion on this item, Mr. Bernett? >> So, one of the things that comes up with legislation like this is the fiscal note. Is there any thoughts on just Lakeland's fiscal note for this? Uh I have not no I have not um run those numbers in terms of because that would be both number of employees and I guess we'd be trying to find a rough percentage of employees that have children that were eligible for that but it's a

041good question but I don't have that >> to preface it a little too late. Um I fully support the idea. I just know that that will be one of the immediate push backs we get from legislators is in a time when they're trying to start to examine budgets closely. Um will they act on this? Um though I would certainly support it. I I didn't I don't know that I realized this until I've read this resolution over the weekend. Um so absolutely I think all of our employees should enjoy this discount. It was the single largest scholarship for our oldest son as a state employee when he went to the University of Tennessee. >> So it it's significant and impactful and meaningful. >> It is the happiest thing I sign every year. Teachers bring me those

042and I give them to the principles and I get to sign a lot of them and oh we got both our fabulous principles here, Miss Lockheart, and Miss Martin, and they will attest. That is always fun uh to sign. There's no controversy in that. They bring it to me and I if they work as a teacher, I sign it. My hope is uh to your point is that while there certainly would be a fiscal note involved, I also believe and you could either attest or dissuade me of this that uh there is a challenge with enrollment in Tennessee schools. If you're if you're not UT Knoxville probably right now, then uh most Tennessee public uh you know institutions of of higher learning um could probably use some additional students. And if this becomes, you know,

043a reason that a certain number of folks maybe can send their kids to college in Tennessee that wouldn't be able to otherwise, that that might be persuasive, but I don't know. >> In higher education, they've been talking about the enrollment cliff cliff for a decade. >> Okay. >> So, absolutely. >> Y >> um I did have a question about this. Um is this for is this just to clarify on this one, is it just for the children or also for the employee? Because you mentioned children. So, I was just trying to make sure. >> I wondered the same thing. The way it's worded, I wasn't sure. >> I think it's their children. I >> Do y'all know that? I think >> that again. >> No, not the vouchers. This is the uh the the discount,

044the tuition discount. It's for their children, right? >> Child's tuition. >> The child's tuition. >> Okay. Okay. It just said in the wording it says qualifying individuals. So, it doesn't really specify whether it's the employee or the children of the employee. So, that I guess what the question is. When I first read it, I thought it was our teachers getting a discount on their courses they were taking. So maybe >> why don't I take another cut at that? That's a good Yeah, that I think we >> Honestly, I'm a fan of either one either or both. >> I think it would be beneficial for both. >> Yeah, I think we're trying to do if that's not the case for the other employees. I think it probably >> we're trying to match it for we have

045because basically we have this group of employees that are treated different than the other employees. So Okay. Yeah, I think that's a good catch. So my >> 25% it process for me that way because doing that for 25 years. >> Yeah. >> So Dr. Hor is going to make sure he clarifies the language that it's for the basically the the dependent or children or whatever the law however the law work reads that makes them eligible. Is there any objection that with that edit or clarification putting it on the consent agenda because I think everybody's in support of it. Just need clarifying language. Is is that okay with consent agenda? >> Absolutely. >> Okay. So, this one will go as number >> I lost count. Am I nine on the consent agenda? >> Yeah. >> Okay.

046So, this would be item number nine on the consent agenda. Next item. >> Right. Thank you for that. I did want to also say um thank you to and also to echo your thank you to Miss Milspa for this because um you know it I know it can't always be easy hiring um some of the um pair professionals and some of the staff that we have and anything to make it you know more enticing and also them to not be treated different than other um state employees that get that discount and our teachers that get that discount for their kids. >> Thank you. I'll pass that on for sure. Well, she'll probably see it or hear it. All right. Uh the next one will be very familiar to everyone on this board. Certainly. Uh this

047is a resolution requesting funding for special education preschool students in the TISA formula. We are >> I think we've discussed this one several times over the past couple years. So other than I would just make ask that we make sure that the dollar amounts are accurate or updated for this year. >> We did update those. Yeah. Um I don't think there's any discussion that is needed on our support, but I'll open the floor if anybody wants to. Yeah, I mean I just wanted to say I think I mentioned this last month, but um Representative Mark White has um directed one of the government groups that's supposed to um give us accurate numbers on exactly what the number of students are, what is required by law because last year the Tennessee Department of Education seemed unclear

048what um they were accountable for. So, we're just trying to make sure that there's not any more um indecision on how many students, what the fiscal note is, and what the legal requirements are. Uh that that like the pe how many peer um typical peers um so that um there's no confusion on what the fiscal note and what this would cost. Um unfortunately uh last year uh one of the fears that I had was that um if they didn't take this in the special session as well that they would fund um you know current students in private schools before they funded um special need preschool students and that's exactly what happened. So the preschool special needs students still are not being funded for the most part whereas um you know current private school students did

049start getting um receiving funding this school year for that. So, we're really hoping that once again, um, they would look at this population and fund it. >> So, the one thing that number two, can you make sure that's updated to K12? And so, that's why I was saying making sure they're accurate for our numbers this year, like the 2700 students, is that accurate, the 617 to just make sure that they're reflective of just take another look to make sure the numbers we're using. >> That's you are absolutely correct. That is uh the latest of at least 75 times we have not updated the grade level. I I take I own that. I take it then we're going to have that problem again. >> Yeah, we got but this Yes. So if we could just make

050sure that the the 2700 is right, the K12 or any other like 617 if the dollar amounts and if there's no objection by the board. Yes. >> Um I know we discussed typical peers Dr. Deloso we like to use pure models. >> That's right. >> That terminology instead of typical peers. Right. So can we change on the third whereas change typical peers to peer models. >> It might I think it's also clearer for the average person to know what that is. You know peer model as opposed to a typical pier. >> Um so what is our we've already had a full court press and then we had another fullcourt press. Do we need to invite some other people to see these programs in action who aren't necessarily our representatives? And do we need to maybe

051cast a wider net is what I'm saying? >> I like more of the education committee. Is that what you're saying? Like >> it's not the we're we're getting through the education committee. We're getting through um we're getting hung up in finance, right? >> The finance committee. Um Do we need to invite the finance committee or even work with, you know, a local one in Nashville because when they're in session, I'm certain that they, you know, Lakeland's on this side of the state, so maybe we need to work with, you know, a Williamson County school or some partnership there to where they could go toward a special needs, something like that. >> Even an invitation Commissioner Bryson over finance administration, if he directs staff to put together real numbers, that makes the real difference, >> right?

052So >> yeah, um we're we're happy to invite anybody. I think there is a fundamental I think there remains a fundamental misunderstanding of what are the various programs and what do they cost. Um unfortunately Lakeland school system is one of three who has only the special education preschool program. We don't have voluntary prek. We don't qualify for it. We're one of only three. And that fact alone seems to be confounding for just about anybody that's not in this room. >> Okay. So, that's the first time I've >> I shouldn't say that. I mean, there are a number of people on our staff that understand that, but they're that they they >> Okay. That's the first time I've ever heard you say that. that because so we're in a bucket with two other school systems who

053have this unique issue where we can say we don't really get that much from you and they say oh yes you do because you're in this other big bucket with everybody else but we don't qualify for >> well >> they're still not funding even the schools that have both they still don't get the the actual funding for the special ed preschool they're just they have these other so I mean it's a large fiscal note because every single school district is not being fully funded. But last year, I mean, they made it pretty clear to me, um, they're spending all the money on the private school vouchers. They said, "We don't have any money left because we spent it all." And so, I don't know. And the voucher gets bigger every single year. So, I feel

054like they I mean, we've explained it pretty well. They just made the choice that they wanted to fund private school vouchers over special needs kids. I mean, they that's what happened. And I don't know that it'll change this year. >> Just curiosity. Arlington and Germantown >> and we've I know we've worked with them the past several years on this resolution specifically >> 100% and even broader than that. I mean last year we had uh representatives go to Bartlett which is a larger district obviously that does have VPK um and to Lakeland in the same day. So there's there's been a lot of >> we've wor with a lot because I I asked Dr. if he would have um if he could get them to go to a a school district that has both and show

055them each class since they're acting like they don't understand the difference. But the thing is I mean um you know they audit all these programs so they do know the difference. It's just that the voucher was what was told. So I feel like you know that was the agenda. So um but we did also work with TSBA and represent Mark White. So we're supposed to get some information Um I think Nolan said maybe by Novemberish I think hopefully um you know about they're supposed to give exact numbers. >> I I do think the conversation and you know again this is a multi-year process but so was vouchers. So I mean that's the only thing that you know makes me somewhat optimistic. I I do think the conversation has elevated. Uh, I do know that when

056I talk to folks in the Department of Education, there is much more awareness of what the issue is and what we're looking for. I think in some cases there's an awareness of a uh lack of a thorough um system for uh identifying who all are participating in these programs. IEPS on all the students. >> That I didn't hear that. >> They have IEPs on all of the students. But >> well, no, what they're saying is that there are some districts that are regulated as child care that are just for employees. Some of those kids may or may not have special needs. Some of those kids may or may not be accounted for or part of the EIS system. Um, so there that that's that's what's being told to me that there there's if anything if

057nothing else I should say that kind of the questions have raised other questions that they feel like they need to answer. I do think Mark White has been pushing to get some of those answers. Um, >> yes, he has been helping us and um, you know, and I did ask TSBA, do you think we need to just do a resolution to make them get the right numbers? and Nolan felt very confident from TSBA that um this committee would be able to go ahead and do it and um he knows people that work in that office. So, I'm hoping that we do actually get the accurate numbers. If not, then we'll just do another resolution next year that will be twofold that will also include, you know, having a law that they get the correct numbers

058since they don't seem to know how to do that. But hopefully we'll get that this fall. Um but yeah, we've we've had him visit multiple um school districts including ours um Germantown, Bartlett. Um we've we've had numerous um school districts across the state um have submit resolutions, talk with their people. Um we asked to speak with the governor's office. We did that last year and we had the Department of Education Commissioner come last fall. So I think we have hit like a lot of different um aspects about this. It was just um it cost a lot of money because that's how much public schools are not receiving. Um so >> well and I know so two years ago you went to the Hill and there was a great misunderstanding about what we were talking about

059and so we really felt like that full court press last year was to completely clear it up and we thought we had cleared it up and I think we did but then it was their choice. They made the choice to not fund this program that we have to provide. >> I believe that's accurate. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Mhm. >> So, >> yeah. I forgotten you testified before the legislature several times, so we've hit a lot of marks that we >> I apologize. Um I I'd like to go back real quick on number four. Uh Dr. I just sent you the link. It is confirmed that it is that uh only the child is eligible. >> Okay. So, >> so that that clarification definitely is correct is making. Yep. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> And

060also I will note um Dr. Or did send last year's legislative agenda. So I guess while we're at a work session if you have any questions on that or things you want to address with it in front of you >> and certainly it'll be on our agenda next week. Um so if there's any items that anybody would like to add to it or see that missing you can. So on number five which is the resolution funding special education and TISA is there any objection to rolling this to our consent agenda for next week >> with the corrected >> corrections? Y >> yes all right hearing none. It will be on our consent agenda next week. Next item. >> All right. Uh I'm actually this is not on the agenda but I wanted to kind of

061get the board's permission. There's one uh additional item that I would like to submit a resolution for and that has to do with and and Miss Childles, we haven't even discussed this because it came up in a recent call. Uh apparently there is already some talk and and uh Miss Thomas mentioned right before the meeting she thought there was some legislation in last session about um uh uh basically well overhauling revising the uh teacher evaluation system um and going back to something close to what we used to have. It used to be if you scored a four or a five on your composite evaluation, you were only evaluated every three years. Um, and now it's every teacher every year multiple times. Uh, I think there is finally maybe some appetite for taking a look at

062that. And I'd like to have that in a resolution form just to make it formal. Um, >> 100%. >> If I can put that in front of everybody for the business meeting. >> You remember, Miss Childs? I was thinking it was um that they had one in the pipeline and it died on the vine. Do you remember? Does it seem familiar to you? >> Yes, it does. I mean, I remember somebody did um I think there was a law, but I I mean um a bill, but I don't it must not have made it. Um yeah. >> Well, I think maybe maybe a grassroots push might >> again private school teachers don't have to be evaluated at all. This might be an opportunity to say >> yeah, >> hey, can we get some? >> So,

063I do have a question then. So item number three, we're talking about a task force, but this is specifically requesting a change in the law. So >> I think this one we'd go ahead and and hit if they're saying that there's already some buzz about it, I'd like to get on record saying we support whatever legislator is pushing that. >> Gotcha. Any objection? So that item will be uh on discussion action item number certainly next week. If everybody sees the resolution and they're comfortable with it, we can move it to the consent agenda, but it will be as item number one on the discussion item action for. >> I will look when I get home. I think it was discussed in February at legislative and legal because they usually give us a, you know, a

064short little primer on what what's going on. I'll look when I get home. >> Okay. >> All right, Dr. Horl, next item. >> All right. Uh, the next item is the review of the emergency preparedness plan. Um, as as the board knows and the public may or may not know, uh, this is updated annually. Um, it is not published to the public as it has, uh, uh, involves some items that we feel like might compromise school safety if they were um, known. So, the board has an opportunity to review that and in fact has an opportunity to discuss that in executive session. Uh just as a review, there were two times or two situations that in which uh the board can meet in executive session, which means discuss uh decision-making or policy uh outside of

065a public meeting and those have to do with uh pending or actual uh litigation or um school safety issues. So, um it would be at the board's discretion as to whether or not you would like to meet an in executive session um either now or during the business meeting um or as always the board has the opportunity to ask me questions about the emergency preparedness plan. Um it may not there's actually not any um action required by this. There is action of the uh uh the SAVE Act compliance package which is up on the consent agenda now and is somewhat related to that item. But as far as the emergency preparedness plan, this just an opportunity if the board chooses to to meet uh and discuss it privately. >> I know Dr. Horl had sent

066everybody a note asking about to respond to him individually if he would like to review this in executive session. Um I would ask that the board certainly do that and if there without objection, we could if anybody wants to review this in executive session, we would do this next week at the business meeting. Is that appropriate? So make sure you send Dr. Dr. Hor note individually if you'd like to go through any of this at the executive session or any of the updates you have about any any things that may not be in here but are related to safety and so we'll we'll have that as an item >> if we need to go into the executive session. >> We'll leave it on the agenda for sure. >> All right. >> Yep. >> Next item.

067>> So the next two items I'm going to take them together are basically discussions on the TSBA leadership conference in November uh as well as the annual convention and delegate assembly. We usually just organizationally put that on an agenda just to make sure it's on everybody's radar. Um I think um everyone from the board has indicated that they'll be attending. Um and then we also have a scheduled retreat during that time. >> Is there any um so you're you're going ahead and reserve going to have the are our signed up and rooms reserved. Have we already been signed up for the Delta District this month or everybody that responded have been for the >> Everybody that responded >> that responded. Okay. So, that's taken care of. So, y'all will go ahead and sign everybody up

068unless somebody says they're not going. Is that correct? >> TSBA. Yes. I think we've already done that. >> Okay. Amazing. Thank you. >> Mhm. >> Now, I do think there's a question about the delegate assembly. Typically, there's a conversation >> is doing that. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Do we have it on our annual agenda to vote on it this month or is it a future month? I thought it was a future month for some reason, but maybe not. >> Uh, >> depends on when summer has to submit those names. >> The delegate assembly >> the names for delegates. Do you know? >> Uh, it's end of September. >> Okay. So, maybe we should >> We'd already submitted it. >> No, not the ones who are actually going to delegate assembly. So, we'll can we

069do that next week? >> Yes, that'll be on next week's agenda as item number two. >> You are correct. It is on the October um >> annual agenda. We may need to move it up. >> It's a September. That's when they're due. >> Yeah. >> For some reason, I was thinking it was because we always meet earlier in October. So, I think it was never a problem because we always have fall break. So, we always meet earlier. But anyways, so we can put it on next week's it'll carry over as I believe it's item number two. >> Mhm. >> I think if I'm keeping up with it right, I may not have it right. We check on that. Yeah. >> All right. Next item. >> And sometimes I just move them around if it makes

070sense to. So, uh, final item is the review of policy manual section one. as we starting back over on our our annual review. If the if anybody from the public doesn't know that, uh it is state law and board policy that we have a process to review uh basically the entirety of the P policy manual um by which we we make our decisions and guide our procedures uh over the course of every school year. So >> we only have to review once every two years, but we review every year. >> Thank you. That's right. That's correct. That's that's accurate. Um, so I want to say thanks to Kim Lewis and Dr. Brown and Tammy Vet. They um they make up the committee and this section is board operations, but I did ask them if they

071would take a look and see if there's anything that um popped for them and they said no, everything looks good. Was that >> okay? >> Any um policies? As always, any policies that any board member would like to have added to the agenda for review? Certainly. um you're welcome to do that or refer to the policy committee. You're certainly welcome to do that as well. Just as a reminder and out there for the public. So that is the last item on the agenda. Is there anything anybody has for announcements? >> Always love seeing our students that are here to do their observations for their honors diploma. So you can come on up and uh Chair Harrison will sign your form as soon as as soon as as soon as we say adjourned. I know you're

072man. >> Smok asked if I could sign it before the meeting. She's she's ready. >> Um I wanted to say thank you to Miss Martin and to Mr. Duncan for spending your Saturday with a bunch of seniors who were um fulfilling a a new tradition of painting their parking spots. And those were long days and I think the kids were excited to be there and the spots look great. if you want anybody wants to drive over and look at those. It's something the kids were really excited about. So, thank you for bringing yourself and spending your time there with those kids. It was really really appreciated. >> I think I was either the last one to leave or the second to last one. I can't remember. It was a long day. >> I think uh

073I don't know if you have a number, but I think there were about 60 that were already painted and I suppose some more are going to come this weekend for the makeup date. So, I think it was really well um participated in and it's pretty exciting to see. We have some really creative students and families. I mean, I was a really >> and sore. We have some really sore families, too. >> Old and sore. Yes. Yes. >> So, um, as a reminder, there's also the meet at the 50 this Friday night. I believe this is Friday night at the football game. It's a new tradition that's being started where our kindergarteners and our seniors are going to meet at the 50ard line before the football game. So, everybody bring your tissues. It's going to be

074a tearjerker for sure. >> Yeah. Um, and if anybody else has any no more announcements. All right. Is there a motion to adjurnn? >> We have a motion. Is there a second? Second. >> All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? We are journ. >> There you go. There you go. >> Like, it's my night off. I want out of here. >> Have a good night. >> You, too. See you tomorrow. >> Likewise. Stay here. Is it help?

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