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Board of Education Meeting - January 8, 2026

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001Allegiance to the United States flag. No one is required to participate or be present for any of these and being in this portion of the meeting is completely voluntary. This evening, Mr. Vaude is in charge of our prayer and pledge. All right. If everyone would join me in a moment of silence, personal refle reflection or silent prayer. And also at this time, I would ask the community and the school system to be in prayer for Dr. Dr. McY and his family at the passing of his lovely wife. Please join me in a moment of silence. Thank you. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. First up, we have the approval of the agenda. Give

002everyone just a second to look at this. >> Yes. >> Like to call everybody's attention just to number 11. I think I've spoken just about everybody individually. Um we did add an item based on conversations today. We have a county commission budget meeting going on at the same time tonight. And so in order for to be able to move forward with the McFaden properties instead of utilizing fund balance, uh we're going to request to use fund 189. We have some money available from the former church street property that we can utilize instead of fund balance. So we did have to add that this afternoon because it's timesensitive because budget is meeting at the same time. >> Great. >> Okay. Thank you. Move to approve with the changes. Thank you, Mr. Rosal. Thank you, Mr. Ball.

003All in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? Motion passes. Next, we have the approval of the consent agenda. >> Move to approve. >> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Rosales. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes. We have no guest speaker tonight. We do have one person for public comment. When I call your name, please come up to the podium. We have Karen Cooblio Herrell. >> Good evening. Thank you for allowing me to speak. I'm Karen Cabio Herrell. We live in the Charters neighborhood in Rockville. I'm here tonight representing more than 20 parents from our neighborhood who have signed a formal request asking the board to consider a small amendment to the resoning plan. I understand the board has already voted and I respect the work and community input that went into

004that decision. Our request is not to reopen the entire plan. It is a small targeted amendment affecting affecting our Rockville neighborhood. Next year, this change would impact a dozen students. Our children have Rockville addresses and Rockville identities. Yet under the new map, they would be moved out of a out of Rockville for middle school into Murphy'sboro schools only to return to Rockville High two years later. That disruption doesn't make sense, especially for our students like my daughter who has an IEP and my son who receives intervention services. Stability matters. Relationship with teachers, support staff, and most importantly, their peers matter. I'm also here on behalf of six or seven middle school boys from our neighborhood who showed up at my home after learning they were being moved out of Rockville schools and asked me to

005fight for them to stay. In addition, we have three middle school band students in our neighborhood and moving them at this very early stage of their musical journey would be incredibly detrimental to their growth and continuity in the program. We are simply asking the board to consider an amendment to keep Rockville addressed children aligned with Rockville schools. So our kids are not uprooted twice in two years with no educational benefit. Thank you for your time and your service to our families. And I brought this visual. This is where we are. >> Would you like that? >> Sure. >> Do you want to keep it? >> That's fine if you want to end it. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Number seven. >> All right. Number seven is a resolution supporting expanded financial

006literacy instruction. As we talked about at our work session, local boards across Tennessee are being asked to partner with Tennessee Financial Literacy Commission to strengthen financial literacy education for students of all ages. Currently, Tennessee requires financial literacy instruction at the high school level. However, there's no comparable requirement in elementary or middle school grades. This resolution affirms the board's commitment to prioritizing financial literacy instruction at earlier grade levels in Rutherford County Schools. Research and best practice show that foundational financial literacy skills or financial skills such as budgeting, saving, and responsible decision-making are most effective when introduced before high school. By adopting this resolution, the board expresses its interest to ensure that Rutherford County students receive age appropriate financial literacy instruction by the end of fourth grade and again by the end of eighth grade, creating a

007continuum of learning that prepares students for high school post-secary education and adulthood. And just so it's on the record, I did not read this on Tuesday, but for th today, resolution to promote financial literacy instruction. Whereas the Tennessee Financial Literacy Commission has identified a critical need to improve financial literacy across all age groups in the state as outlined in the Tennessee Financial Wellness Scorecard. And whereas early exposure to financial concepts significantly improves long-term financial behaviors and decision-making skills. And whereas the commission provides free highquality resources and professional development to educators, including digital tools, lesson plans, and training opportunities that support the integration of financial literacy into classroom instruction. Now for now, therefore, be it resolved that the Rutherford County Board of Education affirms its commitment to preparing students for lifelong financial well-being by supporting the

008inclusion of at least one financial literacy instructional touch point by the end of fourth grade, fourth, and eighth grades. Be it further resolved that the board encourages schools and educators to identify and implement age appropriate financial literacy touch points that align with the local curriculum and instructional goals. Participate in professional development opportunities offered by the Tennessee Financial Literacy Commission. Incorporate TNC provided resources into classroom instruction to enhance student engagement and understanding of personal finance and share implementation strategies and outcomes to support continuous improvement and collaborations across schools. So that is the resolution. >> Thank you, Mr. Vaughn. Thank you, Mr. Rosales. >> Before we vote, I just wanted to add a little information. And so this is like the resolution said, it was a scorecard because I didn't have it all on Tuesday where we're

009discussing. But one of the reasons why they're pushing so much for this is because here in Rford County, um, our home ownership isn't as high comparable to what the state. And so they believe that affordability begins with financial literacy. So they're making a big huge push in trying to teach the children to lay down this foundation in budget management and money management. Um that starts at an early age and wanting to start with the formative years. And that's where they identified grades fourth and eighth grade specifically for elementary school and for middle school. Since we already have it for high school, it's required. They wanted to push it down to that. So, I just wanted to add a little bit more context of why I propose this resolution. And I'm so in favor of this

010and if the board so chooses, um, it would be a good thing for our kids. >> Okay. Thank you for that context. Any other comments or questions? Okay. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? >> Motion passes. Next we have number B. >> So on Tuesday we had a presentation from the Nashville Antihuman Trafficking Coalition. And so the based on the conversation uh the I think the next step would be to review parent and student programming for potential use. We could do it in the spring. We actually did do some um parent meetings last year as well and with a different group and so if was the board's intent after getting the materials we can look at that for the spring or definitely the fall. We can do it this spring as well. >>

011Okay. Wonderful. Any comments or question? Yes. M >> approve. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Rosales. Thank you, Mr. Vaughn. Any other comments? >> I obviously think this is a wonderful program and like to see us move forward as quickly as possible. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes. Next. >> Next is the RFP request for bus contractor insurance. I think Mr. Vault had some information earlier. >> Kind of give y'all an update. I ended up running into Ed Elim at a meeting the other night and they are already operating under that assumption that the if y'all remember we passed or recommended or instructed the director to send a letter uh both to Mayor Carr and the county commission back in May or June to ask them to re to include the RFP

012and and if I remember correctly At that time, we tried to do a six-month deal and nobody would take it, but they are under that opice. They they they are working on it right now. It it so it will be included in this year's um whatever you want to call it, insurance bid. And so I don't think there's any action that we need to take tonight. I just want to make sure the reason I brought it up the other night, I wanted to make that we were all still on the same page, but I don't think there's any reason to send it to the county commission again. And would you mind would you mind forwarding that to me and the rest of the board just because you have it in writing. >> The followup what

013I'm reading right here is is Susan McQuary sent me the documents of where you know the letter and all that kind of stuff. So I I'll forward this to uh Dr. Sullivan and he can forward it to all well I I don't know. I'll get it to all y'all. It's it's just to it's a two or three page letter that Susan was kind enough to send to me yesterday afternoon after Ed and I just happened to run into each other the other night. So, >> no harm, no foul. I think it was good discussion or not. >> Yes, Mr. Ted. >> Yeah, I'll just second what Mr. Vault has said. I did talk to uh Edim today as well uh not knowing that that conversation already been had and uh everything that he just mentioned

014it was the same thing that was told to me that it would happen back in May. So, we should be good to go. They are going to put out for bid. It does. It's not a guarantee that it's going to get picked up, but at least the county commission is doing some due diligence and putting it out there for bid. So, we'll know more later. I think he said we'd know something in April as to whether or not there was anybody that accepted it back or not. >> So, we'll just move on then. Okay. Number eight, >> instruction. And this is we discussed on Tuesday, the 2026 charter review committee as required by policy. We have Dr. McCann here. if you have any questions. Who is our school choice coordinator? >> I'll entertain a motion.

015>> Move to approve. >> Thank you, Mr. Title. >> Thank you, Miss Sharp. >> Okay. All in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? Motion passes. Next nine, legal >> transfer student under discipline. The board's been requested to admit a transfer student from another school system under discipline. The student was expelled for possession of THC. According to policy 6.318, the board may deny admissions of any student except those in state custody when a student transfers from another school system under suspension or expulsion. Director of schools recommendation is to admit in place into alternative school. >> I'll entertain a motion. >> I have a question, Madam Chair. >> Yes, Miss >> Dr. Sullivan, do we have room at the alternative school? >> We just started a new semester, so we've got a little bit more. >>

016So, we got room. Okay. Okay. Any other questions, comments? Okay. I'll take entertain a motion. I'll approve. >> Second. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. VA. And thank I think Tammy. Okay. Miss Sharp. Um, all in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? >> Okay. Motion passes. Number 10. >> First, we have Popular Hill Elementary interior digital display board. Dr. Jason Eaton requested to install an interior digital display board. The cost for this request is 30,000 and is at no cost to the board. Engineering Construction has reviewed the request and has no objections. Any comments or questions? Yes, Miss um did I see the right thing when um on the tab does it say that this is like 70 or something in total? >> Pull that up. >> There's three there's three different bids. One is

01730, one is 70, and one is 100. >> Yes. Okay, that's >> and I did question it because that's a big discrepancy and I quized Dr. eaten quite heavily and he's very satisfied that the 30 has everything they want. >> Okay, perfect. Thank you. >> Especially being in elementary school. Now I remember that. Correct. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Any other comments or questions? >> Move to approve. >> Thank you. Make the Miss Rosales. Thank you, Mr. Vaughn. All in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Motion passes. Next. >> Christian Middle Baseball scoreboard request. Dr. Kyle Nixon. Christristiana Middle School has been offered the existing Riverdale High School scoreboard. Christristiana Middle will be responsible for relocation and installation. The cost for relocation installation is $6,350. Engineering Construction has reviewed the request and makes no and

018has no objections. >> Move to approve. >> Thank you, Mr. Vaughn. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Tidville. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes. >> All right. Next, we have the Maples Development Landscape Easement Request. The Maples development adjacent to Witworth Buchanan Middle has requested an amendment to the agreement allowing them to landscape. This agreement does not change or alter our easement agreement. The development is to enlarge the parking area and needs to make adjustments to our existing agreement. Engineering Construction review this agreement and has no objections. >> Any comments or questions? >> Thank you, Mr. V. All in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? Motion passes. Next, >> transportation contract termination. Pursuant to section 8.1 of the Rutherford County Board of Education bus contract, transportation departments received an email

019notification on January 2nd, 2026 from Mindy Patterson for bus 251 requesting voluntary termination. >> Any comments or questions? I'll entertain a motion. >> Thank you, Miss Sharp. Thank you, Mr. Tidville. All in favor say I. >> I. Motion passes. Number 11. So, we'll do the financial update in just a second. We'll approve this hopefully first. In partnership with the county finance department, this is a request to utilize fund 189, which is our building projects. These funds are currently out allocated to the Church Street property, and we're requesting to allocate them to McFadden School of Excellence adjacent property acquisitions and future renovations. This will replace the previously approved motion requesting the use of fund 141 fund balance for the above purchases. Any other comments or questions? >> Move to approve. >> Thank you, Miss Rosella. Second.

020>> Thank you, Mr. Tiddle. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes. >> Thank you all very much. And then just a quick um financial update. Uh just to start, we'll have the other one later. This is a quick just two-page update of where we are now that we are just about halfway through. I know that our calendar is halfway through, but school day-wise we're not quite halfway through yet. Uh we're going to look at revenue first. You'll see that property tax is a little bit more than half, which is actually pretty good because we're in the middle of January, February. Um so that's that's looking good. A lot of these are just miscellaneous areas that don't have a lot of revenue. The percent of the budget looks high, but they're considering our

021budget pretty small amounts. The main ones that for our funding locally are current property tax and then local option sales tax. You will see local option sales tax is we've collected 47 million already. That's actually really good because it's a couple months behind, usually two months behind, and we're at 45%. So that that's trending above where it has been. Yes. And it's also hitting the Christmas months. And so that's that's a very good thing as we talk about. Unfortunately, whatever is extra at the end of the year goes into our fund balance. We don't just get to to utilize it. It goes into the fund balance that we didn't have to go ask permission uh to utilize. Another one that is performing well above, it's going to decline a little bit because the interest rates

022are declining, but investment income, um, this is part of maintenance of effort, so it's why it doesn't go up a ton. Uh, the revenue is controlled by county finance and they budgeted 1.5. We've already collected 1.8. And so halfway through the year, we should at least get to three million. So a million and a half over that. Tissa, we're right at where we 50% of the year, 50% collection. The we have I'm looking about almost seven or eight from the bottom paid parental leave. We budgeted 1.2. We've only collected 184,000. We haven't submitted all of our um reimbursement requests yet. And so that's why one of those looks lower. So that's Any questions on our revenue? Overall revenue looks good. a little bit of everything. It It makes up part of our um maintenance of

023effort. So, it's just the overall tax. >> It's been going strong since the 70s. >> Yes, it has. Yeah. And then on the back are our expenditures. You're going to see monthtodate is not a a whole lot uh depending on what account it is and based on what paychecks have run. um because you have year-to- date in the middle and month-to- date to the right. We're looking really anything that would be over in the the 50% uh would be a concern, but a lot of these I can explain if they're close. Uh if I look at 721 attendance, we have Skyward and Egeneuity, which is our new one that we're doing this year. So, we're kind of doing two of those. You look down at technology, very similar. We purchase our items at the beginning

024of the year so we can utilize them for the rest of the year. Um, director of schools, our TSBA toss fees, all of those different things come out at the very beginning of the year. Human resources, personnel, uh, again, all of our things usually we're doing most of our background checks, our big hiring season is the beginning of the year. Operation of the plant, maintains of the plant are close to 50. Those are two lines that we we definitely watch. Community services is only $10,000. So we we watch that line and then regular capital outlay is 6.2 we spent 3.7 and again we those are things that come up throughout the year that we try to take care of. So overall the percent of the budget spent is 44.96 and we're about 40 mid4s% of

025the year. So we talked last year's budget being within about a percent of our operating budget and that's right about where we are. So >> yes, Mr. Tidable. >> So Dr. So revenues and everything's looking good and the budget's looking good on both ends. So both ways are trending in the right direction. >> Yep. >> That's great. >> So far so good. So far so good. >> Any other comments or questions? >> Okay. >> We did start uh emailed the board today. Our budget calendar, our budget season has officially um started. I have not emailed that. Did I email that? Okay. I sent so many emails about budgets today. I could not remember who I emailed and who I didn't. So emailed budget calendar to everybody. Today we will have the county's budget calendar. It's

026a week earlier than normal, which is just like last year. They have to have their meeting done by June 30th. They are doing theirs the Monday earlier. Uh they could have it June 29th. They have theirs set for June 22nd, which pushes ours up. We have to have ours done then by June 15th. So it moved us up a little bit and our statutory requirement to have our budget done is May 15th. >> It's all got >> How about director's update? >> Nothing. >> That's it. Okay. General discussion. >> Madam Chair. >> Yes, Mr. Rosales. >> Thank you. I do want to bring up one thing for discussion. I did get a request from a constituent and she came and spoke and it was to for to bring up for discretion the recon reconsideration of

027reasonzoning a subdivision in Troers Lane that's in Rockville. Um, as you saw in the map, that subdivision is extremely close to the middle school and the history of that location has been triple Rockville and this will be the first year they will be reszoned out of Rockville to a different school. Um where it gets a little tricky tricky is that in concept one they were actually um zone in that for that area. But then concept two they were reszoned out of Rockville to a new area. And so the parents and the have raised some concerns with um the kids with their special needs and then just really having consistency for them. So I just wanted to bring up for discussion before the board. >> Any comments or questions? >> Okay. >> My only comment would

028be I definitely of course understand um where our parents come from when they talk about zoning. I hate reszoning. uh when we are looking at these lines, anytime we start, even though it's just 12, 14, even just one or two students, when we start moving kids, it has a domino effect everywhere else. Um this neighborhood, unfortunately, we used Windro Road as the cutoff as I'm I've got it pulled up right now. And Wendro Road, one side went to Rockville, one side went to Blackman. I'd have to pull it, but since Rockville Middle has been there, they probably have been Rockville Middle. Before that, they would have been Blackman Middle would have been my guess. And so before 20078, it probably would have been Blackman. Of course, there's been a ton of growth in that area.

029And so that that's my if you start moving one, then you've got to start moving every all kinds of >> That's the only problem here. >> Domino. >> It doesn't. So it'll be a little difficult to Yeah. >> make the change. >> Yeah. Yeah, because then you're you're then you've got every neighborhood can make an argument for I need my neighborhood move. I need my neighborhood. And it's not a I think it's a valid valid argument. I know exactly where that is. >> Well, I tried to make the change. Um so sorry. Um don't know whether to move forward with a motion if there's not board support for this because I don't hear anybody else saying anything. So >> yeah, Mr. Title, >> thank you for addressing that, Dr. Sullivan. Uh, I agree that it'

030start a domino effect. I had a couple little neighborhoods that were changed from what they historically were. Fortunately, that's part of growing. We've had a lot of these discussions. But if we make an exemption for this particular pocket after we went through everything that we went through, then I'm sure we'll all be getting emails about our own zones and our, you know, what neighborhoods would like to be exempted back out. So do doing our best trying to we did the grandfathering thing. Um I wish it wasn't this way but as long as Murfsboro Rutherford County continues to grow at the pace that it does and we continue to build schools we're still going to have to reszone. We're just trying to spread that out as much as possible but I do appreciate the parents showing

031up tonight. >> Yes, Mr. Derby. Yes. >> Dr. Dr. Svin, is there any um consideration given to those with IEPs or 504 plans in that regard? >> Anytime you have um 504s or students with disabilities, those change of placements are all handled through the IEP process instead of through a county zoning process. And so they a all students are general education students first. So that's how we identify all students and then if it is a different placement they can request that through an IEP placement >> an IP. >> And so so a parent with a special needs child can address the reasoning issue through their IE. >> Yes. Historically it's that's not usually an approved reason uh there needs to be a since most of our schools have the same academic programs. Uh but that

032would be the the reason if you're a parent wants to say special education services are going to cause a a significant learning issue for my child with resoning the IEP process will be the way to go. >> Miss Maxwell >> Justine, anything you want to add to that? >> Sorry. Just a moment. >> I did just want to reiterate what you said about the fact that our schools offer these services. I mean, we take that very seriously at whatever school the student is zoned for. So, it would have to be a case, a pretty extreme case that we would all agree that they would need to stay at that same placement. And it it has happened, I believe, once or twice, but as a general rule, we have good programs across the district. >> Mr.

033Ted, >> Dr. Zin, can you speak to the fact that there, you know, there's 15 exemption seats at every school and those deadlines are coming up? I don't know if James or Dr. whoever wants to tackle that but letting the people know that if they are looking toward that there is a timeline. >> Yeah, absolutely. And Dr. McCann's here as well. He's our choice school coordinator, but either of us can speak about this. We have been advertising pretty heavily that there is a deadline to apply for the choice lottery seats. There are at least 15 in every zone school. We're taking applications through the 31st. This is part of a state law that says any time we have open seats, we have to advertise those, take applications for at least 30 days. We do we

034do more than that. Um, and then we'll hold a random lottery to decide who gets those. And so that's the process. That'll be decided in early February by uh Dr. McCann's office. And then any remaining seats, we typically will hold another round of applications to do a second lottery. So quick, >> what about the um eighth grade grandfather? That deadline is this Friday. >> It is a week from >> next Friday 16th. Sorry. >> Uh there's no harm in getting it in by tomorrow, of course, but it's a week from tomorrow is the deadline. We've pushed that out several times and over this next week, it's going to go out every single day. The schools are also trying to make sure that parents know there's a ones form that's unique for the district that we're

035using so that we can uh make sure the process is uniform. >> Mr. And then the 31st is the deadline for all the other choice seats in general. >> Yes, sir. Two important deadlines in January. One is for the eighth grade grandfather. That's the 16th. Y for the choice school lottery applications and all of your magnet schools and those types of applications. That's the 31st. >> All right. Thank you. >> I don't remember if it's Dr. McCann or James the who has the spreadsheet of all the um eighth grade grandfather and >> Miss Powers has that. She's been sharing. >> That's right. I'll get the numbers from Miss Powers >> in the middle. That's right. I I assigned that. You're correct. >> And she's been seeing it out multiple times to for principles and the

036rest of us. >> Any other comments or questions? >> Yes, Miss Sharp. >> Jazzfest, mark your calendars. We're back at the fountains. It'll there be if there is a rain day, we'll be back at Oakland Middle, but May 1st and 2nd. So, we've got the whole venue and it's going to be a great two-day event. So, get ready. Mr. Mr. Ba, >> we're under other discussion. Is that right? >> Yes. >> Um, part of me says don't do this and part of me says do. So, I I want to give every every one of y'all an observation. We all sat through the joint budget and health and ed meeting the other night and I'm kind of got tickled a little bit listening that the questions and the dialogue. Um, Dr. Sullivan, nothing against you, but

037if I would have closed my eyes, it felt like it was 40 years ago. It felt like 1986 all over again. Uh those were the same questions, the same dialogue that the commission of 1986, 1988, 1990 had for the school board at that time. I really thought maybe we were beyond some of that, but some of the dialogue appeared to me to be that maybe what this board asks for sometimes and and you know what we firmly believe that is the in the best interest of the students and the teachers and the parents uh is not always taken literally. I guess that would be a fair statement. And and so where this is leading me is the documentation. I have told all of y'all since I've been here the last couple what 18 months now

038that I am so impressed with the data that Rob and his staff put together. If we would have had that 40 years ago, I I I don't know that schools would be in different locations than they are now, but maybe we could have seen into the future better than than we did back then. But um I I listened to some of the dialogue and it was almost to the point that some of the commissioners I don't think they believed Rob I hate to say it that way but it was just it was like are you sure you know and and you know he is very methodical in what he goes through. So leads me to this and I I sent his email to Dr. Sullivan back before Christmas and we haven't had the opportunity to

039talk about it. There is a firm I don't know if we want to pursue it. I I think it would be valid. There's another firm called Market Graphics and they chart all of the residential building in probably about 12 states. Most of us in the real estate business, most banks in Middle Tennessee, subscribe to their service. Um, the guy's name is Edel Charles. He's been doing it about 30 years now. And u Pinnacle is always good enough to take me along when he does a once a year presentation. Um you know in middle Tennessee, but he th this guy has got a staff and they really get down deep I think as much as Rob does. But they do it on a multi-state basis, multi- community basis. and and they're looking at it from just

040a sheer numbers for real estate agents, for real estate developers, for the big the track builders that are producing all the housing in the United or a lot of the housing in the United States right now. So, my suggestion to all of y'all if if you would maybe get on their website, it's called Market Graphics. They're based here in Nashville, uh I think over at Brentwood. Uh Mr. Charles Edel is a fine fella. His staff is great. um they have been very helpful to to our company, our industry. Anytime I've asked them for something, they can pinpoint. But it it dawned on me the other night sitting there uh with some of the dialogue between the commission and and you Dr. Sullivan and Rob that okay, do we need to take the position of, you

041know, Ronald Reagan always said trust but verify? Would it be prudent for us to subscribe to another consultant? Here, here's the question I'm asking my fellow board members. Would it be prudent for us to subscribe to another um consulting service that that showed similar data, but not exactly the same data for a different reason. You know, Rob's doing it specifically for us for schools for projection. Edel is doing it for the real estate industry. Well, that's what's driving our growth, right? So, it kind of made a little sense to me. I thought I'd bring it up for discussion. It's not very expensive. I think a year subscription to it is about $10,000 or less. You know, we can and they could tweak it for us. I did talk to one of the the their their

042I guess salespeople that I'm familiar with and told him why I was wanting the data and he said, you know, we've never thought about that market before, but you he said, "Well, this this may be something that we could help you guys with." So, I'm throwing that out there for y'all. I don't know if you want to talk about it more. If you'd like to talk to me oneon-one, if you want to call them, if you want to bring it up at the next board meeting, I know it's an expenditure. I hate to spend any money, but with with us traveling down this path of, you know, we're going to build, you know,500 $600 million worth of schools in the next 10 years, I guess. And and so I think any data that we could

043get that solidifies that that helps the commission, this is really I mean, I think we all believe it. We all see it firsthand. Maybe the commissioners don't see it firsthand like we do because they've got they've got other fish to fry. They got a jail to build. They've got solid waste to deal with. They got law enforcement to deal with. You know, we're very focused on schools here. That's our job. And so maybe if we if we did that and we had this extra data, uh maybe it would calm the waters a little bit between the dialogue between us and the commission. I don't want to say we have bad dialogue. I'm just saying that that that you know listening to the dialogue the other night there were some questions. U I don't know. Anyway,

044that's my two cents right now. >> Thank you, Mr. V. >> If anybody wants to ask me a question, but I'll try to help him with it. >> Mr. Tidwolf. >> Uh yes. Uh Mr. V, of course, I appreciate you bringing that before us. Um, my question was going to be about the price point, but you included that in there, which is not insignificant, but in comparison, uh, may be a useful tool to, like you said, verify the results. Would it be possible since you already have a relationship with them to ask them to come present before the board when board meeting and that way they could kind of deliver it to the public as well so that we're making the case? >> Yeah. If you're good with it, >> the sooner the better. Yeah.

045>> Thank you, M. >> I was just going to make a motion that we moved down that avenue, but >> Okay, >> we're doing that. So, >> okay. Say, Mr. Hart. >> Okay. Um, I I agree with Mr. Vaughn. Um, and there still seems to, Miss Darby and I were talking, there still seems to be a north end, south end situation going on. Um, and I listen, Katie and I drive up there all the time. I think some of our school uh, county commissioners need to come up to the north end and see and look at all the property that's available up there because there's still probably thousands and thousands and thousands of acres. that every time I go down old Waldron Road and go the back way to Cool Springs, every day there's a

046new house built. Every day they've broken ground. And that area up there, it's it's the north end, but that area up there is is hot. It's hot. >> I agree. I think that would be a good >> Well, maybe we should invite them to lunch and put them in the van and everybody go drive around there and see what's going on because >> when we talked about >> I truly don't think that they know. when we talked about renovating our older schools, that really hit home when they got to see for themselves because a lot of them had not been to some of these older schools in years. So, I think that's a a great idea as well. Yes, >> Dr. Sullivan. >> Yeah, I think >> I think that would be helpful because ultimately

047>> that hurts to hear that it's the same conversations um in the same tone. Uh because it's when I go back to the relationships we've built with our county commission, uh the relationships are good. Uh but we've worked really hard to build trust the last three or so years. You know, we've we haven't had an audit finding in two years. We are as transparent. Uh we open our books to everything possible. And so you you hope those conversations and that trust becomes reciprocal at some point. So anything you have ideas to to help because I'm I'm fresh out of them. >> Right. And that's the reason. >> Yep. >> Yeah. And in case I know some of them will watch just so I was bringing it up because he did not go over his background,

048but in case they're watching, I know we know this in Tennessee. I know he works. We got his information from TSBA in Clarksville, Montgomery. And so then we used him. I know Lebanon Special uses them across the country. Um, Lincoln County, which I believe is, I know which Lincoln that is. Um, but some real big ones, Kansas City public schools, you've got Lawrence public schools, Kansas, you've got De Moine, Iowa, Bismar, so a lot of them in the Midwest. Um, so you've those are some big school systems. So it's not just somebody that we picked out of nowhere. And so it's I mean it's we just pick somebody and we were trying to do that to to show data and so when you're showing data and then it's that's tough but I appreciate those comments.

049>> That's it. Miss Rosales. >> Yes. Um anything that we can do to help to get our county I know they understand it but just to verify the data that I'm all for it. Um I wanted to go back to number 11 that we were talking about uh moving the funds. So, and then um within the motion within the recommendation is to use those funds to hopefully buy purchase the five properties on McFan. Well, the funds in that um that are we allocating. Is there enough for purchasing all five homes? >> Yes. >> Okay. That's what I want to verify. Thank you. >> Any other questions or comments? >> You'll give me just a second. I'll tell you exactly how much is in it. >> Okay? >> Because we don't we talk about trust. We

050don't have access to run fund 189. It has to come from the county. So, we got it last night. I appreciate Michael Smith working this with us. >> Yes. Thank you. >> Um 2,458,96244. So, I'll repeat it again just so everybody knows. 2,458,96244. And so basically that assignment, how it's assigned in this, instead of saying Church Street property, Westbrook Brooks Woods, we'll say McFadden, how we word it, school of excellent, adjacent property acquisitions, and future renovations. That's how it will say. >> And how much is the total purchase price for all five of them? Excuse me about my voice, but >> I was teaching today. >> Yes, that sounds right. 17. I'd have to go back in the minutes and look. >> It was one I know it's over a little bit over a million.

051>> I'd have to go back in the minutes and look. I thought >> million three million five >> yeah million three >> between 13 and 1 14 >> what is it >> between 13 and 14 >> between it it was less than a million five I think it was a million three what I remember >> thank you. >> Yep. >> Okay. Any other questions or comments regarding anything tonight? All in favor? Move to adjurnn. >> Thank you.

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