001the blessing boxes for people who may need some foods. And I was going to have her talk about that for just a minute, but since she's not here, I'm going to do the prayer. Um, everybody bow your heads. Lord, we thank you for us getting here safely. If even if we're not on time, we thank you for this day and the beautiful weather that we had. We thank you for our administrators, our teachers, our custodians, our children, and the fantastic things that are going on within the school systems. We thank you for your son Jesus. Amen. >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, [clears throat] with liberty and justice for all. First up, we have the
002approval of the agenda. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Thank you, U, Miss Rosales. Thank you, Mr. Title. All in favor say I. >> Any opposed? Motion passes. Next, we have the approval of the consent agenda. >> Move to approve. >> Thank you. >> I have a comment. >> Yes. Go ahead. >> We did add today Aea from Lever Middle School. So just so everyone's aware. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Vaugh Vaughn rather. And thank you, Mr. Derby. All in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? Motion passes. We do have three that signed up for public comment. And when I call your name, please uh come up to the podium. First up, we have Lee Meisner. Hello. Hi. Good evening, chair, board members, and district leaders. My name is Lee Meisner, and I'm
003the proud mom of three McFaten students. Thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight and for the thoughtful thoughtful leadership you bring to every decision affecting Rutherford County students. Last December, our PTO was honored to host many of you as well as some of our commissioners for breakfast at Mc at McFaten. It was a great opportunity to share both our pride in our school and our vision for its future and to give you a closer look at the place our students and teachers call home every day. We appreciated the chance to share with you McFaten's strengths and challenges that make our goals so so important. We're grateful for the board's continued interest, support, and open dialogue about McFaten's needs. Those conversations have helped bring us to this point tonight. As you prepare to vote on
004moving forward with the process of purchasing the five adjacent properties behind our current building, I want to express our strong support. Even if a new or renovated school is still years away, this acquisition is an important first step. It strengthens safety, provides room for thoughtful growth, and gives our district flexibility to plan for the future. Our current building, full of history and charm, is showing its age. The beautiful classic steps that have welcomed students for almost 80 years, can no longer be used for students to enter the building in the morning because the main level floors lack the stability needed for the new weapons detection system to function properly. Instead, our students now must enter through the basement to start their day. It's a small example, but it represents something larger. This structure, for all
005its character, was simply not built to meet the demands of today's students or the safety standards of a modern school. We've stretched every inch of this building to continue providing an excellent education, but it's no longer a structure that fully supports the needs of children in 2025. At McFaten, we don't complain, we adapt. Our teachers, staff, and families continue to make it work every day, day after day. But the issues are growing, and our taxpayer dollars would serve the district better by investing in a long-term solution. Purchasing land and redefining the school's layout rather than continuing to apply costly band-aids to an aging structure. Owning the surrounding land gives the district options. Safer designs, modern learning environments, and even immediate improvements such as relocating our front playground that currently sits on a busy street corner
006to a safer place behind the school. We understand that large projects like this unfold overtime. By the time new plans come to life, many of our own children may have moved on. But we care deeply about McFaten's future because it has given so much to our families and to the to the Rutherford County as a whole. Your continued support allows us to imagine the kind of future McFaten students truly deserve. Thank you. Next, we have Elizabeth Chandler. Good evening, chair, board members, and district leaders. My name is Liz Chandler, and I'm a proud parent of two McFaten students. Tonight, I'm speaking on behalf of the families, teachers, staff members, and future McFaten families who care deeply about this school and its future. While the standard of learning at McFaten remains extraordinary, the building itself tells
007a different story. As you may recall, after being rebuilt three times, the current structure was built in 1939, and that age shows. The building has served this community well, but it now comes with growing maintenance demands, multiple costly repairs due to wear, water damage, and retrofitted accessibility features that don't quite meet modern needs. The vote to move forward with the acquisition of the five properties behind our current building is about more than just expanding land. It's about protecting our legacy and creating room to dream. When the time comes to rebuild or renovate, the additional space would allow McFaten to finally offer facilities to our students who have never had access to things like a stage or an auditorium or perhaps even a full-size gym. It would also give the school immediate access to Bluff Avenue,
008allowing us the ability to more safely and efficiently redirect traffic since our entire school population are car riders. These aren't just upgrades, they're investments in the full student experience. As a parent teacher organization, we are committed to maximizing every McFaten students potential while doing everything we can to make sure that the facility challenges do not disrupt the education of our current or future students. Moving forward with these property contracts brings our goal one step closer to reality. While I speak on behalf of the McFaden families and staff, I'd also like to note that my own two children will have moved on from McFaden by the time any projects on the property have reached completion. Like many McFaden parents, both here tonight and watching at home, I recognize that my children may not directly benefit from
009these facility upgrades, but this does not lessen my determination to see this project through. Attending McFaten has been a giant blessing for our family and I am personally excited about the thought of a new or renovated school building which will give additional families that same opportunity to experience the same privilege. As a PTO, we believe it's our responsibility to ensure that future McVaden students have the same, if not better, opportunities than our own children. On behalf of our families and staff, we would like to thank you for taking the time to thoughtfully consider the steps to securing McFaten's bright future. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> And lastly, we have Karina Maldonado. I think that's Karina Maldonado. >> She's not here today. Okay. Okay, thank you. Next we have middle school reszoning. >> Hi Don.
010>> [laughter] [clears throat and cough] >> All right. So, the public that is watching, just so that everyone has an idea of kind of what we've been doing the last couple years, this started in the fall of 2022. We began working with RSP to give us district enrollments and really help set us on a trajectory of success for the next few years. We have gone from reszoning our elementary schools with the opening of Popular Hill Elementary this year to reszoning our high schools last year with the additions at Smyrna, Riverdale, Oakland, and then this upcoming year with Leverne. And middle school resoning takes place next year. We did pass a preliminary middle school reszone plan in December of 2023 with a caveat to revisit at least six months before implementation so that we would have
011the ability to look at new growth trends. Um before we get into that, I did want to go over just a very quick analysis of what our board spent about six and a half hours looking at on Tuesday. I am not going to spend six and a half hours going over this. I'm just going to go over a couple couple highlights so that everyone has um an idea of what we were looking at. So, give me just a second to get where I'm going to give a quick summary. All right. So, here are is our enrollment uh takeaway. And so our enrollment takeaway this year, we are down 149 students from this point last year. What we have a lower kindergarten class and then we also went to a 4x4 which for our high school
012students which increased the opportunity for students to graduate early and so that gives us kind of a one-time shot to lower our enrollment at the high school level. Um but that'll of course increase. Another looking the opposite direction is that most grade levels are going to continue to grow in size as our cohorts move in the system. So our our grades are going to continue to grow in size. Our graduating senior class does remain larger than our incoming kindergarten class. That is always going to be the case for us. So for our county commissioners that watch, we have a sister school system of Murphy'sboro City. As long as there are two school systems, there's always going to be a smaller kindergarten class than a graduating senior class because of two school systems. Live births in
013Rutherford County have increased and so that is a continuing trend for us. The next five years, all grade size averages are projected to continue to increase and the district maintained a positive net gain of incoming students each of the last three years. So, we expect that to continue. So, enrollment is going to continue. So now let's look a little bit further at what is going on at each grade band. So now let's look at our sorry it's not where I wanted to go. When we are looking at these there's a couple and this is all attached to our agenda. There's a looking at our projections at each grade band. You're going to see a number that say or a word says reside. That's how many students actually reside in this area. Then a section that
014says attend. How many students actually attend the school and then how many actually reside and attend. We do have 10 choice seats at each school. Employees have a zone exemption that they can choose to attend at a school. So how many people reside in that area? How many people attend? You have people who may choose other options. Maybe they go to a home school, private school. So the number of people that reside in that area is going to be higher than the number of people who actually attend the school. Uh the other option you're going to see or number is the capacity. How what is the capacity of each building? Some good news. You're going to look at elementary before we opened and reszoned. And I know resoning is painful. No one likes to do
015it. I know our board hates voting on it because it disrupts families. I hate counting all the numbers because it disrupts families. You're going to see anything that's shaded in that orange-ish peach color was overcrowded. And then as we moved into reszoning this year, 25 26 26 27 just about all of that goes away. And so I credit the board for that because they made the difficult decision to reszone. We do have Browns Chapel Elementary that we probably reszone too many kids out of. So we're going to have to revisit that with Steuart Creek Elementary, but we have been able to alleviate all of our overcrowding except for Steuart Creek Elementary. You'll see Las Casses by 2930 does get a little bit overcrowded, but you're looking at their capacity of 665 and they're at 682.
016And so they're going to be fine. We'll just continue to watch that and look at those zones. However, looking and you'll see green, we're good at the elementary level. Stewards Creek Elementary though gets to 1785 if by the year of 203031. We have the Lee Road property that we'll probably need to look at. A three school complex by the end of that time. Stewartsboro Elementary is at 855. By the end of 203031, they're at 866. So again, above capacity, but not anything that we're overly concerned about, but it is going to be my recommendation that we reszone some of Steuart Creek back to Browns Chapel. We have four or 500 empty seats at Browns Chapel and we'll be looking at those proposals in the next couple weeks. The other one to look at is Walter
017Hill and Wilson. Wilson is a much larger building, 975. The enrollment is projected to shrink over the next couple years, while Walter Hill is projected to um grow just a little bit. So, we may want to look at a couple neighborhoods here. But overall, only capacity challenges are Stewart's Creek and Stewartsboro, which is just above 10. So, elementary looks good. >> Can you go back to Stewart's bore, you said? >> Yeah. [clears throat] So over by capacity is 855 it's going to be at 866 >> and reside and then you'll see attend is actually at 828. So we're looking at how many people actually live in the zone versus how many people are attending in it. So it attend based on our current model it would be under. [clears throat] >> That's because it's there's
018a new subdivision in that area. >> Yeah. So that's why it's going to grow a little. >> All right. So then let's get and then your choice schools are a little bit different. Our charter schools and then Thurman Francis. Again, you don't have a a zone for those schools. It's it's across the district. So it's just how many people attend. So it goes into the overall number. Middle school is is not pretty and so we have not reszoned yet, but these projections do take into account the new Popler Hill Middle School. Uh we are the proud owners, owners may be the weird word, of the two largest middle schools in the state, Blackman Middle School and Rockville Middle School. Blackman Middle School right now is a little bit over 1770. You'll see in the zone
019there are 1,96 but only 1,776 attend. As we go through the years with Popular Hill Middle opening, they still stay above the capacity of 1568. So, what we are going to be working on is to to reszone a little bit more of our projection away out of Blackman Middle. Christian Middle, same thing. They're going to be over projection. Lever Middle is below projection. And so, something that I've been working on the last two days is something that should be exciting for the Lever area is that right now, and I'm going to pull up the map. This is the current zone I believe. Let make sure is this 26 27. This is the current approved zone for next year right beside Lever Middle. So Lever Middle's over here. This section right across Murphy'sboro Road goes to
020Rock Springs Middle all the way down into Smyrna. The zones that I'm working with RSP right now is going to be able to take a lot of Lever proper and move it into Lever Middle School, which is going to be very good for Lever to be into Leverne. And so this whole area should be able to go to Lever. This area, I think there's only one student that lives in this whole part, that one student will be able to go to Lever, but a lot of this will be able to go to Lever as well. And so that'll be able to do a couple things. It'll get Lever into Lever to utilize that space, but it's also going to allow us to alleviate some overcrowding at Rock Springs Middle School as well. And so that'll
021allow us, you'll see the capacity is 1,400. We only get to 11:08. We're at 1,64. I don't necessarily want that Lever or any of our schools to be that close to capacity, but that helps. Oakland Middle 1440, uh, very close to capacity. You'll see Popular Hill. We are opening large. It has zeros because it's not open. We're opening it above 1100 with a capacity of 1,200. Uh it is right beside Shelton Square. So Shelton Square will finish filling that up along with another development by the time that it opens. Its reside and attend is exactly the same because we do not yet with it not being open don't have a percentage yet of how many people actually attend versus a reside yet. You'll see Rock Springs Middle on the northwest quadrant of the county is
022a huge growth section. So, we are dropping it quite a bit, but even after dropping it quite a bit, it jumps back well over capacity in five years. So, we're going to look at some of that as well. And I'll talk more about that at the middle school level. And then we'll get to Rockville Middle, second largest middle school in the state. Currently, it's over 1639. This was back at the beginning of October. and it gets back over 1,600 even with Popular Hill opening. The issue with Rockville Middle School is that it does have extra classrooms. It does not have an extra gym like our other schools that have an addition. It does not have any extra bathrooms and so it is still core capacity for only 1,200 students. And so that's that's tough for
023the administration and teachers and students at that school. Rocky Fork Middle is not getting to capacity even on this projection except for one year. Seagull Middle, uh, with Oakland Middle having so many seats nearby, we're trying to get it back under capacity. Smrna Middle, we are getting close to capacity with some of these moves. Stewart's Creek Middle, it shows you we're going to need another middle school at the Lee Road property eventually. And then our other spot that we have a lot of room is Witworth Buchanan. And so our capacity challenges are going to be Rockville, Stewart's Creek, um, and still Blackman that we showed up here. So middle school has a whole lot. And we'll come back to that in just a minute. Real quick, high school. High school shows the need for our
024I say north end, but our northwestern end high school needing at the Lee Road property that we have purchased. You will see by 2030 2031 and why I hope that we ask for a high school in the next six months design fees that by 203031 we'll have a campus built for 2189 that'll be at 2859 and then Steuart's Creek High School will be at 3,114 for a building of 2338. And so that shows you the need for that school on the Lee Road property. outside of that and that would then also relieve a little bit of Smyrna and allow you to shift a little bit of Rockville down towards Blackman as well. So that school site will help us alleviate high school. You'll see at the high school level we had a lot more peach
025shaded colors and we are a lot more dire straits without those additions. We need that next high school to be able to alleviate that crowding. Last thing I wanted to cover is just our overall kind of conclusion of what we are looking at. And this is the part that I think is really good for everyone to see. In our next five years, we're projected to add 964 elementary school students, 1,944 middle school kids. That's why adding the 1100 seats at Popular Hill is not enough. and 2561 high school students, which is why the one high school complex is not enough. Overall, 5,489 kids. That projection is actually a little bit down than where it was from a couple years ago. So, it is definitely following with what you're seeing the nationwide trend. I think it's
026scary to see that a 10% projection is down, but that is a a downward projection for us. our next task and kind of where I want direction from the board is what I'm looking at right now is we had on a couple of our areas and I'll show those first that we couple small areas you're going to be able to see them there you can see two colors right here we were moving these areas from lever middle to smmyrna middle with lever middle being under capacity my recommendation is going to be to move them back to Lever uh so that they can stay there. We were moving these from just giving you a quick highlight and I'll have a whole lot more. So, our timeline will be meeting with RSP tomorrow to get some firm
027projections on what these numbers look like so that the board can have those, the public can have those. We will have a zoning meeting on December 18th and 20th to go over projections. We'll then have another meeting on December 7th and 9th. Does that sound right, M. Williams? December 7th and nth. >> Dr. Dr. Sullivan, thank you. You said December 18th. I think you meant November 18th. >> November 18th. Sorry, you're correct. November 18th and 20th. Thank you. November 18th and 20th. And then we will have another meeting December 7th and 9th, I believe, are the dates. >> 9th and 11th. >> 9th 11th. I've looked at so many numbers today. It is a All right. So, let me clarify. November 18th and 20th is our next board scheduled board meetings. Those are to look
028at zoning projections for middle school and hopefully have uh a new model to go with. The community and parents will have about three weeks to review that, make recommendations to the board. Then the recommendation is going to be for the board to look at that at our work session December 9th. Hopefully vote on that December 11th. Rob will be back with us at RSP to present kind of our new numbers to the uh hopefully for a joint meeting on December 16th. So I was able to confirm that today. The next from our current just so that you have an idea of the changes. This area right here is supposed to go to Rocky Fork Middle. I'm going to recommend that we have that area go to Smyrna Middle. That's going to allow Rocky Fork Middle
029to go a little bit into the Popler Hill zone. Popppler Hills then going to be able to go into Blackman zone a little bit more. Blackman zone is going to be able to go into Rockville zone. Then in a little bit of a different we're going to to match pretty closely the downtown area with our high school zones. We are going to we have hundreds upon hundreds of middle school students who right now all go to Rockville Middle in the Kase and Lane area. We're going to to split this area because there's so many kids between several of our middle schools, which we like to keep them together, but we also have this as a dual zoned high school area, so they're not all going middle to high school together. Anyways, the other big shift
030is going to be Witworth is going to come into the Christian zone probably following. Um, we will keep Savannah Ridge and at least that's going to be my recommendation. Savannah Ridge and Indian Hills at Christianana and use Joby Jackson kind of as the cut off. It's easy access to Witworth Buchanan and then go down Country Farm Road all the way down Rucker Wayside Christiana Hoover's Gap and kind of use that as the new cutoff for Witworth Buchanan that allows Christiana Middle to come pretty far into this portion of the more urban part of Murphy'sboro where Salem Kase and Lane is to pick up students and that also allows Witworth Buchanan to pick up students to where right now on this projection, our smallest middle school is still projected to get smaller. And so we we've
031got to fill some of those seats in that school. So that's kind of what we're looking at. Um I'll have a lot more information for the board trying to utilize our seats. Happy to answer any questions, thoughts, anything you guys have. >> If you want to go in a different direction, I'm happy to go in a different direction. My only other option is to move portables that I know of. So >> Dr. [clears throat] Sullivan, >> yeah. with these new projections. I know this is a lot of work because as much as I'm I'm not a big fan of resoning cuz I've been reszoning so many times. However, we cannot overlook the fact that this county is growing. Development is happening all the time and new subdivisions are are popping up everywhere. So with these
032projections and even with the resoning that you are recommending to the board next time we meet, where do you think we need an additional middle school? >> After this, we are going to either we're doing a lot of work north. We're going to have to go south next. I there's there's not if you look at some of those other projections that they have um that talks about let me get to it real quick about where this is what we're trying to relieve some of that we've relieved a lot of enrollment from Rock Springs Elementary we're relieving enrollment from Rock Springs Middle Road property is really going to help right over where I am over here with a lot of that probably at the reschool complex eventually over there. But then you also have a lot
033of growth that is here's the south side of the district where this is all going to be Witworth Buchanan Middle School, Christristiana Middle School, and then this is all Christiana Middle School and uh Rockville Middle School and High School. And so our middle and high schools are not going to be able to hold all of these students down there. So South is going to have to be next after we address the north. >> And we have land in the plane view. We have land for one school at Plain View, right? We're going to need something else. And I would recommend on this side of 231. >> Okay. But we don't have any land right now in that area. >> Nothing. Yes. We don't have [clears throat] We don't have anything even big enough to build
034anywhere. We have Yes. That I know of. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We're going to need something over here for sure. >> Okay. >> Is a gift that keeps on giving. >> It is, but we are. I do want to give the board credit. We are much further ahead than we were this time. Three and a half years ago. >> And then with the high school, well, [clears throat] we'll talk about the high school later. >> Okay. >> Yes, ma'am. >> I spoke today with one of the aldermen and got some updated numbers from um the west side of 24. So, there's going to be 10 phases of that Arbor Ridge. right now. Um, the Waldron Road, the Twinning Station, there's going to be 12 buildings for apartments, 578 units and 54 homes. For Woodland Hills,
035when they finish that development, that's a smaller little area. It's going to be 85 houses. Uh, Mission Hills, which is kind of where we had looked at, all of it's all of it's Walden Road. >> Okay. Go to Wald. >> So, I'm all like right here. all in that area. So, Mission Hills is going to have 201 lots. So, we need to make sure that >> for sure having as much room over there. >> Yeah. That we put that in there because um Rock Springs is already >> at capacity as as is middle the middle school. >> Do you like having that part east of I24 that probably shouldn't be Lever over to Lever? Because right now I had I'm being realistic I was surprised that Rock Springs was all over here. I had no
036idea. >> I didn't think that we had any Rock Springs on the east side of the of 24. >> I had no idea that this entire like right across from the um city hall was Rock Springs Middle and it is right now. That surprised me. >> It needs to go back. >> Yeah, it needs to it needs to go back for sure. >> Okay, >> Dr. Sullivan. Yes, >> I appreciate you working on this. I know it's I know it's a lot. Um, and it's ever changing, so we can't project everything. Uh, my request would be, and I I told you this, but I just get this information out to the parents because we had community meetings and we went through this for several years, and some of them have already kind of set plans
037on what they expect and now, hate to say, there can be a bit little bit of a rug pull on some of them, but >> it's just the nature of of where we're at. We're trying to fill up these capacity where we have it. >> Um, but I just ask that we do a kind of a mass movement toward that, communicate that. We'll have, of course, our district. We're going to ask our schools and then we have uh when are our yard sign are your signs ready to >> Are your signs are ready? We're putting out tomorrow and >> and so we'll put those all out. The schools will have a QR code so that everybody can also scan as they hopefully as they stop and don't drive by. But >> Awesome. >> Yes. >>
038Okay. Any other questions? Only other area I forgot to mention because I know this area is Blackman area trying to match some of the Popler Hill elementary zoning um is looking and this part isn't the elementary the other part is but looking part of not a lot of students but could be a lot of development is is north of Shores Road and Manson Pike going towards Popular Hill because Popular Hill is right here. So trying to relieve Blackman Middle by adding this part that matches the elementary zone up towards Ber Hill by going down Manson Pike to Blackman. So that's one other area we're looking at. >> All right. Thank you'all. >> Thank you. Number seven, financial matters. >> Okay. >> All right. Number seven, fund 141, budget amendment. This amendment increases budgeted fiscal year
0392526, fund 141 revenue and expenditures to recognize TISA on behalf payments. These payments are funds generated for students under TISA but not issued to the LEA which is a school district. They are paid directly to the state for specific items such as state portion of charter school payments, education savings account, individualized education accounts, and juvenile detention centers. TDOE requires ELEAS to report these payments and their financial statements and will provide the amounts at year end. This is a budget neutral amendment and does not provide any net gain or loss to the general purpose schools budget. The amount of these budgeted entries is $4,17,240. Any comments or questions? Miss Maxwell. Miss Rosales. >> Move to approve. >> Thank you, Miss Rosales. Thank you, Mr. Vaughn. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes. Next,
040we have properties. >> Mr. Reid. >> Mr. Reed, please. >> We talked about some of this on the at the work session, but there's two property items on the agenda tonight. Um, one is the McFaten property. Another is just another property has been come available in the county if we have any interest in it. Um, on the McFaten property, I've given you a handout for each of you tonight which is some sheets. I think some of the McFaden PTO people actually put this together, but you have the existing on the first page you have the existing school site that shows the McFaten community center adjacent to the school site. You see that? So, that's the current property as it exists today. On the second page, you will see some of the parcels that they were
041talking about acquiring. These are the five that are under contract. If you got um the second page, you have the two small houses there. Um you go to the third page, you have three additional houses there. Um and um these are small houses, the parcels of land. So really what you're paying for is the land, not the houses because these houses will be torn down. And then the final page that you have in the um um presentation of materials here has shows the property as it's squared off and what it would look like once you get if you acquire all five of these parcels. So you see a very square that takes up an entire block of property there. So you have all that additional land in the back that you could do something with
042at the school. So So I just present that to you so you know what the properties are that we're kind of dealing with. I know the school I know the board members have not had a chance to look maybe some of you have but we haven't gone as a group to look at these school sites. What I was going to propose is if the board's so inclined of course it's up to the board to decide what you want to do with these. But if you're inclined to to do so, what we could do is is on both of these property items is post postpone them to the next meeting and then arrange for a tour so we can get a bus set up to take all the uh board members to b do a driveby
043and look at these properties. Um I did talk to Dr. Sullivan. He said um we could do it as soon as next Wednesday. Um of course it gets dark early tonight. So it's dark as early as 5. So, I was going to throw out them there maybe 11:30 or 12 next Wednesday as a possible time trying to I know people are working so I don't know if that gives you a chance to leave your work during the day to do it or not and that time may not work. If it doesn't work, let us know kind of what time would be better. Um, but we do want to do it during the daylight. So, you can see this during the daylight and it does get dark at 5 now. So, it needs to be sometime
044before before 5. So, um, so with respect to both of these items, uh, the property items of this one and the next one to come up next, what I I would propose is that we get a bus time schedule that we all get together and go do a driveby to look at these properties together as a board. Historically, that's what we've done before we acquired property. Uh, I know it's always hard to get this number of people together for anything. So if there's some board members who can't make it, we can arrange for them to go look at them independently or have their own time to go by and look at them if you choose. But I do think it is kind of good to have one common time that people look at these together
045to the extent we can get a good bunch of us together for that. So I don't know what you think about that. Um, but I would throw that out there as an option for maybe next Wednesday 11:30 or 12 and um, we can get a bus. We can either meet at central office or if people want to meet on site and if it's quicker from where you're coming from to meet on site, we can meet on site. So, so I'll offer that to you. The immediate um item, agenda item here is these five properties on next to McFaten. Um we do have um contracts from the sellers on those and if we want to um whenever we want to act on those all those contracts provide for 180day inspection period with two 30 days extensions
046and basically gives us a free look. So we have time to look at those properties and decide whether or not they're feasible for the school site. You can do whatever kind of inspection and testing you want to do during that period. So you really have no obligation to follow through and close on them until you decide um during the inspection period to do so and we give notice to close. So so that's the and all these are contingent on county commission approval for funding as well. So um the the three McFaten properties are not huge money and when you're talking about for as for land this day all of them together is like 1,360,000. So the prices that are in the contracts today, the total of all five is 1,360,000. So So I leave that
047for your discussion. Um um if you guys want to do a a bus tour next week, we can get it set up and if Wednesday does not work, we can look at other days. I know we some of them have the school conference for TSBA, I think Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. So, um, we're thinking Wednesday might be a good day for it and I threw out lunch just thinking that might be more convenient for people who are working. >> Any comments or questions? >> Yeah, Mr. Tidwell first. >> Uh, Jeeoff. All right. So, you said the price that's been negotiated is 1.3 1.3 uh 100 I'm sorry, 1,360,000. Is the appraisals that are in here? Are these recent? Those appraisals are current tax appraisals on the tax roles. So those are the Rutherford County tax
048roll appraisals. >> All right. So >> tax appraisals are typically low and do not reflect current market prices. >> Yeah. So as part of approving this contract, approving it for us to do our due diligence, right? Um just locking in the property. If we were to make that decision, then we would have it reappraised at market value to see where those values are at because there's there's quite a chasm between the numbers on this paper and the numbers that they're asking. >> The board, if the board wants to do so, you can get appraisals done. >> Okay. >> Misswell. Yes, Mr. M. Mr. Vault. First, >> I'd like to make a motion that we go ahead and move on these five properties for McFadden. Uh we're not going to do anything with the houses but
049tear them down. So land is land and you know we talk about appraised value. It really doesn't matter what they're praised at. This is what these people say I'm going to sell them to you for. And I don't see any reason why we don't go ahead and vote tonight to move on these contracts. U there's no reason to to uh to not move on. Um, these people are willing to buy them and we're going to tear the houses down and dirt's dirt and uh, so you know, I want us to go ahead and vote on that tonight. >> Second, >> Jeff Reed, can you please tell us who is representing the owners? the sellers represent I think one of the one of the owners has a realtor or some realy firm they had consulted with
050otherwise the owners are being represented by themselves. >> So all five are going to be representing themselves by themselves. >> Some of these are rental houses. So some of the people who own these houses are somewhat sophisticated real estate people. So are used to dealing with real estate affairs and hold multiple rental properties in Murphy'sboro. So, um, so the people you're dealing with are probably more sophisticated real estate people. >> So, in the disclosure of the contract, is there going to is there going to be a real estate agent that's getting a commission? And who is that? >> There are no commissions and payable under under these. So, um, that's one thing is that's being saved because you don't have real estate agents. You're being paying. There's no real estate agents in any of these
051deals getting receiving a commission on either the schoolboard side or the seller side. >> Perfect. And >> I'm sorry, one property has one for what? Okay, there's a >> who is the property the owner that has a real estate agent. Who is the real estate agent for that? >> Uh I think someone at Keller Williams was I saw on one of the the contracts for someone at Keller Williams. >> Keller Williams, but that's not the affiliation with Stanva's. >> No, there's no affiliation. Stanva is not receiving anything out of any of these >> and his company is not receiving anything >> nor he get they >> Okay. Okay. There's [clears throat] no compensation at all towards Dan Vault. >> Okay. So, I want to move forward as well in buying these contracts because all we're
052doing is just demolishing these houses. Um they the the PTO group um met us not met us but the PTO invited the whole entire board back in October 20th, 2024 to meet with to show a presentation that including every single member that was here sitting here and also some county commissioners. Not everyone showed up, but in that presentation, they're the ones who the PTO proposed the idea of buying those five houses that are in the same vicinity of McFaden. And they said, why why there was a need for that to to buy that? And there also showed us that new sketch of the new school that was going to give them more land so that they can stay in the property so the school can stay in the same location and not having to move
053there. Plus, it'll give more opportunities for students in Rutherford County to have another toy school that the residents can apply for. And so um so that's where that idea was proposed. And then when we started talking about the five-year plan, there was a lot of movement in wanting to start something for McFaten so that we can get some type of ball rolling. And then in August when we had that discussion 21st, August 21st, well the day before I of doing our meeting that we had as a work session, I had asked to get that sketch in the of what that was presented in the um in the PTO meeting, not the PTO meeting that was presented in that in thatformational meeting that the board was invited and the county commissioners were invited and then we
054received that information on August 21st and that was included every single member that's sitting here in the board with the link to go to that and so if you go to McFaten which I have been those houses you can see you can drive around it around around them and see the houses um as far as topography is in the same topography as with the school because we already have something building there's something something already built. Um there is infrastructure already in there because we have um a hookup for sewer electricity. Those would be the biggest um reasons. As far as the road, there already is road access to it because it's on the street side. There may be we maybe get asked to expand this the street by the city. I don't know because we're
055expanding. But really what's going to help with this is that low location. And if you go into McFaten, when you see the playground, it's right by the very busy street. So, it's going to allow them it is going to allow the playground to move be moved behind the school so it'll be a little bit more safer. So, with that, for those reasons, um I'm going to go ahead and move well I'm going to move forward buying the contracts. Plus, I looked into the policy that we had as far as site selection, and one of the things that it cleared is that um is that if we're going to buy something and that is needs to be in an area where it's been identified where we are to buy these um buy property for that and
056that has already been identified and I know that we the board did vote for Jeff Reed to move in the negotiation. But how many people are in your firm? How many other lawyers are in your firm working with you, Jeffrey? >> How many attorneys we have >> in your form? >> Like eight attorneys. And then when you get overloaded with work and we have given you authority to do, you have the authority to make decisions in our behalf which may include giving some of that work to one of your partners so that the we can continue doing the proc the continue doing the work because of the overload. And it's my understanding that the reason why Stan was got involved because he does have a real estate agent is because he was approached um there
057was a conversation that he was approached by the principal and even by you to see if there was some way that we can look into committing the owners into buying these houses. So for those reasons, I want to move forward with buying the um buying the houses. >> Thank you, Mr. M. Mr. Tidville. Yeah. Uh, I've been to McFaden many times. I got a lot of respect for Dr. Blair and PTO for the work that they've done as well putting this together. I don't think anybody is doubting that these changes need to be made and this is not a great uh move for them. But we also got to be responsible to taxpayers and you know what you've handed out to us today. I understand is not the actual market value, but I I would
058be willing to move on this because we're just doing our due diligence. We're not signing the contract. I would not be happy signing the contract when the homeowners are asking for double u the amount of what it's appraised for. So, I'd love to see what that comes back to. I would be ask that we request appraisals so that we can get that back and maybe go back to the negotiating table with a more realistic number in between. But with with this just being permission to move forward on continuing the due diligence, I I'll support that. Just my Yes, Miss Sharp. Did you >> Listen, there's no one on this board that doesn't think that you guys deserve it and that y'all need it. This map here looks so much bigger than the actual property because
059I did go out yesterday and look at it. So, I can at least say that I laid eyes on it and I saw your teacher all the way down at the four-way stop. I'm so thankful that the Experience Church allows you guys to use their parking lot to help y'all with um coming into school and and loading from school. Um that's such a blessing because it is a very narrow two-lane road. And I am for this, but I'm not for what what is happening here. We've I've been on this board, this is my eighth year before we've purchased any property. We as a board have gone to the property and looked at it and I think it's derelct and our due diligence for us not to. So I'm a no vote even though I support
060the I support the project. >> Miss Darby, >> Mr. Reed, if we um move forward with these contracts, you will be signing these contracts at the price that they are at. Correct. >> Well, the purchase price is as stated in the contract. So that is the purchase price in the contract and then you have the right to get an appraisal done if the board wants to get an appraisal done. If the appraisals come in lower than what the contract purchase prices are and you want to go back to the sellers and attempt to negotiate a lower price with the appraisals, you can do that. Of course, there's no guarantee the sellers will be willing to sell at what appraisal price you get. So that's when the negotiation comes through comes in to see whether they're
061willing to come off the purchase prices or not. These are rental properties and while these conditions the houses are not I'd say the most pristine houses you've ever seen they are generating income. So one of the things that kind you know factors in the valuation of these houses is how much rental income they're generating. So that's a factor that landlords would be familiar with that may not be nec necessarily reflected by the market appraisal on a cost approach basis. But all that's to say, if the if the board decides to go forward with the contracts, you can do that. If you get appraisals done and the appraisals come in less than what the contract price is, and the board says, "Well, we're not willing to pay the price that is in the contract because the
062appraisals came in less." That's a decision the board can make. And you can go back to the sellers and negotiate with the sellers. And it'll be up to the sellers to determine whether or not they're willing to sell for a lower prices in the contract. >> Okay. So, the contract is written in a way that we are not locked into that price. If the appraisal comes back less, >> you can you are >> I know we have the inspection period. I'm just concerned about the the pricing portion of it. I just want to make sure that we can go back >> during the inspection period. You can go back and try to if you have if you want to try to renegotiate the deal, you can try to renegotiate the deal. If you can't get
063a number that you're willing to live with, then you can terminate the contract and then everyone goes on their separate ways and you don't we don't close on the property. >> Okay. I too um agree with Mr. Tidwell and Miss Sharp. Um I've been to McFaden, not actually inside the building, but on the exterior of the building many times. It's a fantastic school. Um, the older schools are something I've been talking about for a couple years, getting onto our schedule to get them renovated, rebuilt. Um, so I'm in favor of us moving forward with rebuilding McFadden. Absolutely. I do have concerns when we as a board aren't following policy because we set the example for our district. Um, and it says a lot if we're not following our own policy. So I that has been
064my main issue with the way this entire thing unfolded. So I just want to be clear going on record that it has nothing to do with these houses, with this school, none of those things. It has everything to do with policy and making sure that we are handling things in the proper way according to our policy. >> What policy? What policy she talking about? What policy you talking about? I don't have [clears throat] the policy number on hand, but the board voted to allow Mr. Reid to engage with those owners. We did not vote to allow Mr. Bought to do that, were responsible to the public. So when we as a board vote to authorize someone to negotiate on behalf of the board, [clears throat] that is the vote that the board has taken. None
065of us, not Miss Maxwell, not Dr. Sullivan, not Mr. Reed has the authority to go against what the board voted and do something different in place. If that were the case, there would be zero point in having a board doing anything. >> Well, we're not voted against what the board said. We didn't vote that Mr. Bault couldn't say anything. We We voted We said, you know, Mr. Reed, yeah, you can do that. But we never said, hey, Stan Ba, you can't do it. We never said that. There's no policy. >> No, but we didn't vote for him to. We voted for Mr. Reid to and as I stated at the previous meeting, we as board members, it is not our position or our job. You can talk to TSBA about it. It is it is
066not good for board members to get involved in financial matters and contracts. And there is a policy that specifically states that board members are not to be involved in contracts. >> I don't I don't I don't believe there's a policy. >> Okay. Well, >> Miss Maxwell, I will be very careful right now in accusing board members that they're getting involved in contracts because if we want to go there, we can go there. >> Go there, Miss. So, we can go there. >> Go for it. >> Because at the end of the day, there's a real estate agent other than Mr. >> Let's vote. >> Jeff Reed, we authorize as a board for Jeff Reed to negotiate. However, Jeffrey that also means that Jeffrey can make decisions based upon what is what is in the best
067interest of the board. And sometimes his workload can get very very heavy. And there's been times where he's been authorized to do something, but he gives the work to someone in his partner in his firm so that the process can continue so that it's in so that the best interests of our board of the board, we can still do the work there. We're you the way this is coming out and say and saying that we broke policy. We didn't broke policy. It's it's trying to make create this narrative that there was something that happened behind closed doors with a board member and these property owners. It's already been stated he's no one is benefiting from this. The B he if anything stand can speak to these owners. Why? Because he has real estate agent. I
068mean he's a real estate agent and he has an active license. What is not which is has happened is that if you don't have a active license, it is unethical and you're violating Tennessee state ethical laws in real estate of going to talk about pricing and negotiations with an owner. Has that happened? Yes, it has not. No, it has not. >> Yes, it has. No, it has not. Yes, it has. Yes, it has. Please, one at a time. Yes, it has. Hey, you will divulge that you have a real estate license. >> Yes, you do. It was on your disclosure form in 2024. >> I do not have a real estate license. >> You do have a real estate license. >> Order. >> Don't accuse me of something that didn't happen. >> I'm not accusing
069anybody. Yes, you did. I'm just saying that it has happened. It has. And if we want to get the paperwork out, we will. >> Please. >> Mr. Let me just say this. You've got McFin has a real issue with her property. We have real issues to contend with that are on the agenda about whether or not we want to proceed these with these five properties or not. I think that's the relevant issue the board has to decide on. >> You guys can bait the process and all that later, but >> we have a motion on the floor. >> You do have a lot of MFAN people here tonight and we have a second. you have a real issue at MFAN that needs to be addressed and what we need to know if the board wants
070to move forward tonight on it or whether you want to go look at the properties first and then decide later or what you want to do on them. So that's the business matter that's on the agenda tonight. >> Miss Max, >> we have a Yes, Mr. Ch. I'm going let you go, but we have a motion on the floor and we have a second and after Mr. Tidwell speaks, we're going to vote. Wow. Go ahead, Mr. Tidwell. I would just like to say that, you know, I'm looking this as a a singular issue whether or not makes sense. Obviously, I think it makes sense be because of the need, but uh again, we're just entering into some due diligence here. I'm requesting on record an appraisal so that we can make sure that these numbers
071are a lot closer than they are currently. Currently the appraisal of these properties based I understand it's not market value but it's 76,350 and they are asking for 1 point uh or 1,360,000 almost double. I feel like that is a bit excessive and I think we'll be able to find some middle ground in between there. You're right it may not happen but I would like I'd feel more comfortable getting that information back. That's all I'm asking for and that is why I'm making the vote that I am tonight. >> Okay. I got >> you. Call the role, please. We have a motion on the floor to start the process to purchase the five homes at McFaten. >> Mr. Tidwell? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Rosales? >> Yes. >> Miss Sharp? >> No. >> Mr. Va? >>
072Yes. >> Mr. Vaughn? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Darby? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Maxwell? >> Yes. >> Motion passes. Okay. So, the second item is um a partial property which I don't know if the school system wants or not. So, it's is something being made available to the school if we want it for school purposes. So, the seller has come to us and saying they would sell it to the school system if we have any interest in it. So, this is the one in the Blackman area that dismutes property. Um you do have a contract you tonight with you for u which for the 85 acres that does have 180day free look period as well with two 60-day two 30-day extensions. So again it's a contract that you have before you that you're not obligate if
073you sign it you're not really obligated clo to close until you go through the inspection period and give notice to close. So this is one the board has not looked at. This is a sizable amount of acres out there that's available in the Blackman area. I don't there's been no determination made as whether we need this for a school, whether it's suitable for a school, but it's been available made available to the school system if we have an interest in purchasing it. if we do have an and I was going to suggest like we've done with other large farms that have become available for us to go as a board and look at it sometime and to tour it first to decide whether you like the location, what the roads look like and to see
074what the land looks like. I have not been to this to the land either to look at it myself. So, um so I would suggest we possibly do that next Wednesday. I would suggest 11:30 or 12 to see if that's available to people. If that time doesn't work and people have some other times that are better for them, I mean, we can talk about it. Again, it gets dark at five o'clock. So, I think we need to go when it's daylight and it's not dark. So, when you see the site and um people if they want to meet at the site and drive from a separate location in the county, if you're coming from your work and it's not convenient to come in the central office first, we can meet you on site at the
075at the farm and look at it. But I do think you should probably look at this property before you move forward with it. Um I don't think you should move forward with it really without looking at it. Um and um so I would um suggest we do that next week and I don't know what if any board members have comments on that whether Wednesday works or doesn't work. Um but I'll throw that time out there to to give us something to work from. >> Okay. Yes, Mr. V. I'd just like to make a motion we move to go out and visit it next Wednesday before we make a vote on it. >> Second. Thank you, Mr. Table. >> Mr. Reed, uh, this is 85 acres, right? What is the price point on that? 8.5 million.
076>> I'm sorry. What? It's a price point on >> Yes. Is that Is that I thought I read that. 8.5 million. So, it's $100,000. $100,000 an acre. >> Yes. >> Dr. Mr. Sullivan, could you tell us when the uh time frame of when the need might be for this particular property, please? >> Next would be Lee Road property. Um then south and so within the next 10 15 years, I would definitely we're going to need something here if it develops. If >> yes, if trends hold. Um >> Okay. I like how Williamson joined land. I don't I haven't been through this site either, though. >> Sure. I mentioned this at the work session. I'm just going to belabor the same point, but we have the Popular Hill property. We bought the Batty farm at the
077Popular Hill. We put an elementary and a middle school there. And and I understand this area is growing, but so is the rest of the county. Now, we're buying the should be buying. We're in contract due diligence area of the Lee property and it's going to be big enough to potentially hold hopefully what will be a high school maybe potentially a middle school uh some form >> there >> and we need those as well and and I get that and then now we're looking at rather than going back down south which Dr. Solomon has u alluded to a need that we have from RSP as well and which I'm advocating for. Rather than do that, we're going to have another property in the same area at $100,000 an acre. So to me, that doesn't make
078sense as the first upcoming. We're going to have another need before that need. So, I'd rather focus on that because as we've had discussions here and as we've had discussions at our work retreat, we're about to put a ask out there for some money to the county commission and it's no light task, but it is a need. Uh part of that need is going to be the funding. Well, I think we're going to use the fund balance and ask them for use fund balance for the lead property and then the high school. Trey, would you like to give us a ballpark figure on the high school? I think the last one that I heard was like 100 was it 180. >> The building itself would probably be around 120 to 130 and then you would
079have to have any property that would be associated with it. You got to have the FFN, you got site. So yes, it could be approaching 150 to 180. >> All right. And and then at least at the retreat that was on Tuesday, we also talked about possibly putting a middle school there. Could you tell me what the price of a middle school would be? >> We just did 60 uh 70. >> I'm going to say between 70 and 80 depending upon the time frame that it's built. >> I ain't I ain't going to pull this back up and say Trey, you said um no, that's uh it's just just an idea and it's a big ask and I know the county has their own interest in the the things that they're going to do. So
080my concern would be let's go after the things that we absolutely need now. And I'm not saying it is completely unnecessary 10 years down the road. It may be necessary if trends hold, but as it sets now, it's not the need we have. And that's why I wouldn't support it. >> Can I real quick? >> Yes, Mr. >> I think Trey hit it very well Tuesday. I think this would have been a great thing to have known about a year ago because it would have definitely helped. Do you have any, Mr. agreed reason to believe that the Leo property is going to fall through. >> No. >> Which you mentioned Tuesday night. So yes, first time I'd heard that. So that was a little concerning. >> Okay, >> that was a great question to ask.
081>> Yes. >> Any other >> thing about it is, you know, we don't this property, you know, there's not going to be you don't get many chances to buy property in Rutherford County. And when the opportunity comes, we know in the in the future we're going to have to have schools. Uh unless they put a I'm full sign at the county line, but we keep growing and growing and growing. If we just buy for what we need right now, it's like Blackman Middle School is a good example. We built that school uh for what was needed at the time and it was built for a thousand kids. Second year there we were, 1200. Rock bail's the same way. Built that high school and it ended up being the largest one of the top two or
082three highest uh biggest high schools in the state. So, you know, if we just buy for what we need now, we're going to get into that situation again. And then if we get in a situation where we can't buy any land, you think it's expensive now, you wait until that comes up. And we just need to keep our eyes open and be visionaries to look down the road a little bit and take advantage of the opportunities when they come. So uh you know, we just need to really take advantage of everything we get. So >> I do think there is wisdom and that I'm not trying to do wishy-washy because that is something Williamson County to our west did a very good job of about 20 years ago. They bought land and so I think
083it's definitely prudent of us to continue to to look and explore every piece it's brought to us because they don't have to look for land sites when they build new schools. They they already have them and so that's that's something I wish we were in the position to do where unfortunately we're not. >> I want to agree with that. It seems like since I've been on the board and COVID hit and it was awful and for three years we did absolutely nothing. It was like we were stuck in quicksand and everybody was like I don't know I don't know I don't know and I'm not blaming them but us not being able we're still playing catchup. We're just filling some we're filling up schools as soon as we build them instead of thinking down the
084road and trying to be forward thinking. And that's why I think every piece of property that they're willing to show us, we need to take a look at and really think about because just like you said, we may not need it for another eight, nine years, but it would be nice to have it. And uh so >> I'd like to, you know, >> yeah, we do have a motion and we have a second. >> I'd like to say one thing. We need to go to the developers that are building these big neighborhoods and the the all these houses they're putting up. John Floyd gave Spring Hill gave Spring Hill the property to build a elementary school. Now, we need to go these contractors, they need to put a little bit bit of the skin in
085the game because they're the ones that are benefiting from it. >> And now, >> I don't know how you do that, but >> we maybe we can. We did have a developer that is building south that in the original plans had land donated for a school and somewhere between there and the approval at the county level didn't happen. So I don't we're not on the planning commission so I don't know where that went south but the land for the school the land for the school site is no longer there. >> Can we look at it again? Can you >> It wasn't up to us but it was originally spot for a school. >> Madam chair. >> Yes you start. Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh Mr. Bond, to your point, uh the policy needs to be
086changed at the municipality level because they're the ones that are building and letting the developers come in and causing the taxpayers more property taxes and more having to build more schools. So the policies need to be changed in our cities to require the developers to give us some land or give us a discounted land. Um that needs that needs to happen and the IDB board needs to stop giving away taxes and charge for the taxes. >> It'd be nice if we could meet with mayors of the uh Leverne and Smyrna and Murphy'sboro and just tell them >> they are working on that. So I want to give the the five mayors credit. They brought this up in the mayoral council. So I do want to give them credit. >> Are they doing more and just
087talking about it? Are they going to do something? >> Yes, they did. Well, we met the first time and it was not my idea. So I want to give them credit for that. >> So we have a motion on the floor >> to visit the school of the dismes property. We have a second. >> Madam chair. >> Yes. >> Can you state what the motion is again? I was going to say, could you The motion? >> The motion is to visit the dismutes property on Wednesday. >> So, this is just to visit it. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> Roll call, please. Mrs. Darby, >> I can't visit on Wednesday, but yes, Mr. Vaughin, >> Mrs. Rosales, >> yes, >> Mr. Vaughn. >> Yes, >> Mr. Mr. Tidwell, >> no. >> Miss Sharp, yes. Mrs. Maxwell,
088>> yes. >> Passes. >> So, we'll get um arrangement made for a bus to leave from here and um I may get Miss Williams to send out notices on that. And if you want to meet on site, we'll send you an address and people can meet on site. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Reed. Thank you for all your hard work. >> Next, we have director's update. I'm good. >> Okay. [laughter] >> I don't think you've said that in a long time. >> Hey, there's no Mountain Dew over here, so you must be doing good. >> I've looked at so many numbers today with zoning. I'm good. >> And general discussion. >> I'd like to I'd like to say that I'd like to thank Mr. Reed, Mr. B for the work they did to get this
089all this land and everything done. I mean, it's a lot of effort put out and uh I appreciate everything they've done and their expertise. So, thank y'all for y'all. >> And Dr. Sullivan's got something to say. >> I did one in this one. So, I want to congratulate um Mr. Vaugh. He is being inducted into Oakland High School's um [applause] done here. He is being inducted into the Hall of Fame at halftime today. What happens when you hang around long times? [laughter] Things happen. >> Couldn't happen to a a better, more deserving gentleman. >> Thank you. >> Any other Yes. Yes, Mr. T. >> Uh we have some middle school principles here. Uh so we appreciate you guys here. We also uh have a bittersweet moment. I'm losing uh one of my middle school principles
090to the new Popular Hill Middle School. So, but congratulations to Dr. April Sneak for that. >> Excellent. [applause] >> Any others? >> Thank you, Madam Chair. So, Miss Brenda Bryant, thank you for coming anyway, even though you were not able to do the prayer. Um, if I we would be here for another hour if I talked about all um the things that she's done for our community, but she does have the blessings box and her ministry is keeping um people in their homes. So, she works with affordable housing and some other things. So, thank you for coming. Um, I'm sorry about the traffic today. Um, so if anybody wants the addresses for the blessing boxes, I'll put them out on my Facebook on Saturday from 9 to 12 at Champions in Murphy'sboro. We're going to
091do a food donation drive for our Atlas program. So, um, you'll see some familiar faces. There'll be there's a bunch of people that'll be there. Y'all can just drive through the parking lot and I'll put up um the needs and things that Miss Johnson has put out for us. So, it'll be Saturday 9 to 12 at the Champions and Murphy'sboro Road. And if anybody wants to come and join us and help pick up and put in boxes and things like that, hopefully we'll have a lot of people come to bless our Atlas program. >> Excellent. And if there's no other, we are adjourned.