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March 2026 Board Meeting

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2026-03-20
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Trousdale County, TN
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001Mhm. >> the March session of the Trousdale County Board of Education to order. At this time, would everybody please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance and then I'll make for the prayer and then please stay up for the Pledge of Allegiance. Please bow with me. Most holy heavenly Father, we ask you, dear Lord, to continue to bless this school district. Please continue to bless all the bless all the students, teachers, and staff. Father, at this time we'd like to ask that you please bless them as many will be traveling for the next several days going on vacations. Be with them and please allow all of our students and teachers and staff to be able to come back when school resumes. Bless us, dear Lord, to be able to continue to have a safe school year

002and bless us, Father, to do thy will in everything we do. For it's in Christ's name we pray, dear Amen. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Please be seated. Okay. Is there anyone in our audience that would like This is our time for public comment on anything that's not on the agenda? Is there anyone? Okay. Now, if if there's anyone in our audience that would like to address any item on the agenda, please let me know. I'll put your name by that item and you can speak at that time. Ms. McMahan is on the agenda. Yes, sir. If there's anyone that would like anyone else that would

003like to speak, you would leave to let me know so that I could put you on if that's the item you would like to speak to. Okay. Since we have nothing to add, do I have approval or do I have a motion to approve tonight's agenda? Motion. Second. I have a motion by Ms. Petty, second by Chris to approve tonight's agenda. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed, please say no. We do have our agenda set. Next is our consent agenda. Please look over those items. We did go over those in our work session. But the work session was filled with a lot of other things, so if there's a a particular item that anyone would like to pull and move to new business for further discussion, please let me

004know what item it might be. I'm excited to see all the field trip requests. I'm sorry? I'm excited to see all the field trip requests that we are approving this time. I know I'm not supposed to talk, but my first grader went on his first one and he was so excited. >> That's right. He just went last week, so. The fifth graders just got back from their trip. >> Of course, we have a lot of the the softball girls. A lot Some are leaving Saturday, some leaving Sunday and I don't know when their first game is, but several will be leaving to go to I don't know if it's a tournament or what. Tournament in Gulf Shores. So, a lot of a lot of traveling going on. I'm not hearing anybody wanting to pull anything

005and move to new business, so do I have a motion to approve tonight's consent agenda? Make a motion to approve tonight's consent agenda. Motion by Deanna. Do I have a second? I second. Second by Mr. Atwood. Any discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed, please say no. We have approved tonight's consent agenda. Madam Director, do we have a school district highlight? Not this Not this month. Okay. Zoe. Now that the principals Now that we've changed up and they don't not required to come every month, we get to you a lot quicker. We'd rather hear from you anyway. Yeah. >> [laughter] >> The floor is yours. Thank you. All right. Funny enough, actually, as the school year ends, we have a lot more going on, a lot more to report on than we

006did at the beginning. Um it's not too much, but to start, we've got parent-teacher conferences going on right now until 8:00. Then last night we had that senior recognition night where they announced honors, scholars, superlatives, and top 10 for our class. And we're going to have That was senior recognition night and then we're going to have senior night next month after spring break and that is going to include the scholarships that the seniors have received. We also had our dual enrollment meeting for the rising juniors last night right after the senior recognition night. Then, really exciting, our students came back from SkillsUSA this past week. Jose Rodriguez, he competed in welding. Ethan Coffin competed in welding sculpture. And then Britain Dunbar and Roberto Garza Ramos placed second out of 17 in robotics and automation technology.

007Then softball had a big win last night, 10 to nothing versus Macon. Baseball is playing tonight in Antioch versus versus Nashville Collegiate Prep. And then we've got spring break, March 20th through the 29th, and no school tomorrow. And during spring break, we have FFA going to Gatlinburg, we've got the softball team going to Gulf Shores and baseball team going to Knoxville. So, that's a lot of traveling. Then after spring break, we have FBLA going to their state conference. That'll be April 6th through the 9th. And right after that, prom is April 10th. And then FBLA also has their super Saturday on April 18th. And that's all the It's important dates. >> [laughter] >> A lot going on, yeah. Let me ask you a question. I know that it's beginning to get out that Mr. McColl's

008potential new schedule for next year, cuz I've had some students at church say something about it. And they seem to be excited. As a senior, you kind of disappointed that we didn't get that in while you were still underclassman? Or what's the what's the word? What's the vibe around school about the potential new schedule for next year? All I've heard is a new block, right? An extra block. I think that that's going to be great, for sure. I Not the most athletic, so you know, I'm not sure what I do with an athletic block. But, I do think that it's going to be great. And I assume that's going to make classes just a little bit shorter each instead of the 90 minutes. You don't want to extend the school day, make it longer? I

009think I'm I think we're okay. >> [laughter] >> But, yeah. We had the state board come back in the beginning of the school year, and they were talking about that. And we mentioned adding more electives, and then that's when they added more dual enrollment classes. So, I'd say that's pretty cool. So, I do think that it was built off of that a lot. So, I'm proud. I'm happy. My little brother, he's going to be a junior. So, he's going to get to experience that. So, I want to see how it goes. Of course, it's not set in stone yet, but it looks to be a five-block system. And one of the things that we've heard that that we're in the board room excited about is going to open up a whole lot more opportunities for

010juniors and seniors at TCAT. Mhm. You know, we know that driving by there you can see the expansion they've got going. Yeah. And it differs at five or six new courses that they're going to be offering. Four. Four blocks? Four. Chris. Let's say we're going to have Diesel mechanic. Diesel's coming in. Diesel's coming in. Cosmetology. Cosmetology, which it covers several. Sterile. I think that I won't say it's under that. We're going to have dental hygienists that's going to be there. And I know for the other one that I know for sure is like They're calling it like a lineman school. Yes. That's right. So, a lot of new opportunities for juniors and seniors, especially, because they're going to have more blocks that they're going to be able to get into. I'm trying to verify that.

011I don't know what to call it. I can't tell you. I think it's nail tech. Yeah. And there's two or three of them there. So. I think it's great. And uh those not athletic don't have to sit don't have to be in there with you. >> [laughter] >> We got building construction, also. Okay. I had to remember the last It kind of gets shuffled around when they talk about it. One One day it'll get focused on this, the next day focused. For those that don't know, Chris works at TCAT. So, he's our TCAT expert. I don't know about that. >> [laughter] >> Well, you know more about it than anybody. All right. Anything else, Zo? That's it. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Anybody got any questions for Zo? What are you doing on your

012spring break? I guess. Not much. I'm just going to hang out with my friends, enjoy it. We kind of realized it's our last spring break, and so I'm excited. Yeah. It's not your last one. It's your last one in high school. Yeah. But, I'm kind of ready, so it's okay. Again, congratulations on all your awards. Thank you. All right. >> [clears throat] >> Next is uh uh Ms. Katherine's director's report. So, just to expand on the uh new schedule, I talked to Mr. McColl tonight. He did roll it out. He's talked to all of his teachers. His teachers are excited about the changes. He's rolled it out to a lot of parents. He rolled it out last night to the rising 11th grader. And he said he got a lot of positive feedback. So, I

013think that everybody is um excited about it. So, I'm excited to see what's going to happen next year with it. Um and there is a lot going on in our district. Um talking about field trips, every grade level at the elementary school is taking a field trip. Third grade and fourth grade have not scheduled one yet, but Ms. Pedro is going to push them to it. So, every grade will have gone somewhere. So, they Ms. Pedro is excited, the kids are excited, the teachers are excited. So, it's a good thing. In ways of employment, uh last month I told you that Ms. Chelsea Jones had resigned as the head volleyball coach at the middle school. Tina Chancy has been hired as the middle school volleyball coach, and she is super excited about that, and um

014starting to make plans for next year. On the academic end goal updates, the nine weeks ended on March 10th. Report cards will go home on the 31st once we get back from spring break. Juniors took the ACT Tuesday at the high school. There's uh 90 juniors. All but six were at school to take it. So, I talked to Dr. Stricker, and those six will take the uh senior retake in October of next year. So, we had a good turnout for that. The last benchmark tests for the year were given last week. Uh parents will get results tonight at the parent conferences, and those that do not attend will get the results from the report cards tonight. We'll send them home with the report cards, as well as the aim webs report at the elementary school.

015Um tonight is parent-teacher conference. Before the meeting tonight, I went to all three schools. They are having a great turnout. Uh there's a lot of parents coming in, even at the high school. They have seen more than they normally see this time of year. So, um they were all going and talking, and it was busy at all three schools. Tomorrow is an administrative day. There will be no school in spring break. It's next week. So, the kids will come back on such as the 30th of March, and then things are really going to get busy. As I said, the spring is a lot going on. So, once we get back, we have two weeks before state testing. So, we will start finalizing standards and reviewing and doing things to prepare for the EOC and TCAT.

016Those begin April 13th and ends May 9th. And then school is pretty much over. So, it's going to go really fast after spring break. For the project updates, at the elementary school, HJHS has fixed the camera problems that were up there. Uh the chillers, they had We have had a lot of conversations the past couple of days. Tim has talked to Bransford. Uh Landon, myself, we have all been involved. They say that next week when they're on spring break, they're going to finish everything. And when spring break is over, they should be able to flip the switch and have air at the middle school. Are they going to do a test run on that? >> do a test run next week. Uh Trane has to be here for that. So, they're trying to line everything

017up, but It just makes sense. We talked to Bransford Tim talked to Bransford today. And as of today, that was the plan. Trane will be here next week. Everything will be finished. Flip the switch when we come back on Monday, and everything's going to be nice and cool up there. Hopefully. Bus 17 has had uh engine replaced. It's been out for a long time. It is back, and it is back in service and running fine. High school had a leak in the boiler room. Uh the The way I understand what Tim explained today, the copper um pipes are starting to erode. It's the building's 20-25 years old. Nothing's really been done to that school. So, we're starting to see a little bit of age and wear and tear on it. Bransford is working on the

018problem. Uh we are going to do some replacements next week when nobody is here, and get all of that fixed so that there's no more damage than what has already been done. Uh Tim talked to Johnny today about the roof at the high school. It is not as big as we thought. When Johnny got up there, there's the screws are coming up. They're pushing out. So, it's just going to be a matter of tacking that back down and putting some tar and glue up under it. And that should fix the problem. So, we're going to start working on that as well. Just so everybody knows, this Johnny don't do roofs. No, we know you don't. >> [laughter] >> I don't think that was a question. >> [laughter] >> Uh the field house, I was there

019this morning. I talked to Jesse about everything. The floors are done. They look really good. Um they are getting ready to put the baseboards down in the next couple of days. Uh and then they'll set the toilets once all of that gets done. Uh next week, they are scheduled to put the curbs in. And then after the curbs go in, the asphalt will go down. So, that should be taken care of next week. Monday, we have a meeting with the contractors. Rosalind will be there. We make sure of that. And they are going to do a punch list Monday. So, we are getting close to the end of that. And that's all I have. It's a lot. It is. Anybody have any questions for Ms. Katherine? Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Oh, uh you know, when

020you're sitting in the waiting room at Vanderbilt, you have time to watch TV. Are y'all aware that there's a bill in the legislature to do away with having having to give the TCAT test? Mhm. You were aware of it? I am. Still have to give some kind of test. There's But They're going to give >> necessarily >> have to be The way I understand it, they are going to reduce the amount of testing. Uh but here's an interesting thing because our legislators Yeah. are so up on things. Uh next year we are going to online testing across the board. I've already told you second grade through ESA. But there is a bill in the legislation right now that is going to limit elementary school screen time during school. So they're going to limit the screen

021time yet we're going online testing. So we'll see how that goes. Yeah. Interesting. Trust your legislator now. No. Heard it somewhere. I just hope that was Uh one of the reporters said that the rumor is that it a lot of the uh voucher students weren't testing well on the uh state testing. Mhm. And they didn't want to have to report that. So they'll So they'll take it out of public schools, too? Well, that's what this bill would do. But it you would have to replace it with Back you know, back a long time ago, what was that? Stanford-Binet achievement test? And there was another one. Yeah. I mean, there'd be some sort of testing. I don't think they'll do it because there's no way If you got Well, out of the 100 what? 36 school

022districts roughly? >> 147 or something like >> Okay. Uh there would be If if you got all these different districts giving different tests, there's then there's no way you can compare district to district and Well, you know that. I mean, you know it. And and get uh a full picture of how And that's my issue with the with the private school and public with the you know, the voucher system. You They give a different incredibly easier test. Right. And so it's difficult to So uh I don't think it'll pass because because of that particular reason. That's just my opinion. All right. Anything else for Miss Copper? We'll move on to new business. >> [clears throat] >> All right. We had no old business, so we will move on to new business, Miss Copper. Next on

023our agenda is the approval of non-certified salaries for the 26-27 school year. Mhm. We talked about this Tuesday night. We did. And I have talked to Angie again, and we feel comfortable giving um the non-certified teachers a non-certified staff a 3% salary increase for the next school year. That's our recommendation. And that's your recommendation. >> Yes, sir. Okay. So we have a recommendation [clears throat] from the our director of schools to put in our budget a 3% salary increase for non-certified uh at this time. Of course, you know, there's still a long way to go in the budget process. You know, we by law we have to present a budget to the county commission by May 1st. So we have to start our process quite a bit earlier than the county does. Uh and but

024should some fundings you know, mess up, you know, just cuz we voted on tonight don't mean it's completely done. Discussion. Motions. I trust Angie. I'll make a motion. I have a motion by Mr. Woodard to approve a 3% salary increase for non-certified employees. Do I have a second? Second. I I I couldn't >> it anyway. I couldn't discern We take turns. It was all Seconded by Miss Pate. Any other discussion? Okay. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed, please say no. Motion does pass. Next is another budgetary item for the coming for next school year, approval of teacher salary increase of uh it's not What percent is that? 3%. 3%. Approval of a 3% salary increase for all certified teachers for the 26-27 school year. Uh Miss Copper. Again, we have gone back

025and after teaching I discussed it with Angie again. She's confident that um we'll be okay in the future. So our recommendation is to give all teachers a 3% salary increase for next year. And I would just This just hit me. We probably should have discussed it Tuesday night or not discussed, but made clear that And if I'm wrong, please let me know. I'm the teacher salary increase comes from TEASE. It does. And the salary increase for the non-certified comes from a different budget. >> Correct. Just wanted everybody to understand that. We're good on that? Okay. Uh discussion? Do I have a motion? I'll make a motion. Motion by Mr. Atwood to approve. Do I have a second? Second. Seconded by Mr. Woodard. I have a motion by Mr. Atwood, seconded by Mr. Woodard to approve

026a 3% salary increase for all certified teachers for the 26-27 school year. Any Any other discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed, please say no. That will be entered into our uh preliminary budget that that will be sent to the county commission by May 1st. Correct. And next on our agenda is Miss Laura McMurray. Am I saying it >> one more. Who is that? You've got another item. Uh Well, we've got the 1% for administrators. It's not on this. It's sorry. >> [laughter] >> I didn't print it. >> not saying that one. I know. It's It was added late. Okay. That's fine. And I think I'll text. I'll print [laughter] it. Okay. I think we talked about it Tuesday night. We did. We did. My old one doesn't say that either. I

027was going to ask. Yeah. That's why I didn't bring it up. >> I just didn't print any one out. >> Okay. Okay. So uh the next item then, again, for the budget for the next school year is a 1% salary increase for all administrators. >> Yes. And I'm assuming that includes uh in this office principals, assistant principals. >> Yes. Did I leave anybody out? >> I think you're all right. Okay. So a one a projected 1% increase for all administrators. Discussion. Motions. I'll make a motion. Motion by Miss Pate to approve a 1% salary increase for all administrative personnel. Do I have a second? I second Seconded by Deanna. Any other discussion? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed, please say no. Sorry, Miss McMurray. Now we're >> [laughter] >> Please come to

028the podium. Good evening, everybody. Um Before I begin my opening statement that I prepared, I do want to say thank you to the director of schools and the board for honoring my request to come here tonight and take the podium to discuss what I think we can all agree is an important topic of policy and procedures around um the expectations of parent communication um among the schools, especially in light of recent events last week. We always want any parent that they always know they can get on our agenda. That's what that what we're here basically. Absolutely. Well, thank you so much. Um I I pulled a number of policies >> [clears throat] >> um over this last week and um one of them I want to begin with, and it is the if I'm correct,

029the board community relations policy. Um as I read in the policy and to complement your comment just now, um in order to promote school community interaction relating to policy and operation of the schools, the board will strive to keep citizens of the school school system regularly informed about policies, problems, and planning. So with that in mind, um my intent here today, I hope you know, is not to come here to criticize, um but to come here in partnership to work together and ask some clarifying questions so that I and anybody who is in the audience or or watching, um can really better understand the district's communication policies and especially when they are in situations where uh related to safety concerns. Um and ideally, hopefully, propose a path forward um that may even support more consistent

030communication and documented procedures um when it comes to that direct communication with families. In preparation for tonight's meeting, Hold on just one moment. Yes. You're talking about all this, Mhm. but what are you referring to? Yes. [clears throat] You You I mean, you're posing all this stuff, but I have no clue of what you're talking about. I would love to educate you on that. I would love for you to. In preparation for this meeting, I um in for a records request I asked for any written procedures governing parent notification during safety related incidents. I was provided with policy 3.204. >> Okay, hold on. You're still missing the boat here. What problem brought you to do this? Yes. If I can finish my statement, I'm confident that you will know. Okay. Answer to your question. Thank

031you. The policy mandates the director of schools shall develop a process for providing parents, guardians information on credible threats of violence or significantly disruptive behavior directed towards or occurring on the grounds of the school their student attends. Okay. When I followed up on said policy, the director of schools had confirmed that [clears throat] we do not keep written procedures beyond policy 3.204. So, they are not documented. They don't exist. My question is, since the required process is not documented by the policy, can can you help clarify and help me to better understand what the process is for providing parents and guardians alike information on credible threats of violence such [clears throat] as what we experienced last week? >> What did we experience? Are you I need you to tell me. You're the one >> [clears

032throat] >> You're the one throwing it out here. I need you to tell me what we experienced. We experienced an online threat. That was >> In In your statements you just said credible. Yes, I did. That's right. Now now tell me, that's what I'm asking. Tell me what you experienced. Are you asking what I experienced specifically or >> what he's getting to is is the threat Yes. >> that happened. Yes. You said in our agenda they deemed it not credible. >> That's correct. And and then you were just saying a credible threat, so he's making a point between credible and non-credible. Right. >> Or something that was deemed non-credible. >> You You read our statute that says credible. Yes. >> And I keep asking you what [clears throat] made you go through this to figure

033it to go through all this >> Yeah. And now it was deemed non-credible before school even started. So, why are we That's That's a really great point. I think this is a really important discussion. >> I I agree, yeah. That's the reason I'm trying to find out here. Yes. That's a great point. Um you said it was deemed non-credible. >> Correct. It was deemed non-credible before Monday morning. Okay. Before Monday morning it was deemed non-credible. >> Correct. By Wednesday morning. >> Huh? By who? Uh do you Would you happen to have a timeline of how all this went? I don't have any questions you got when I have time to grab you with. I I want you to give me a timeline of things there. This is I'm familiar, thank you. Yes. Do you I

034mean do you I know what a little bit about all of it, but it went real fast >> Mhm. and it went non-credible real fast. Yeah, I think are you able to give us a timeline? Yeah. That'd be great. Yeah, that's what I'm here for. If y'all got questions, I'd be glad to answer. Yeah. And I thought that the timeline of events might be relevant, so I made some notes here. Let me go over them. And it's my understanding that after their this investigation it was it was determined by the investigators to be a non-credible uh occurrence the night before. Am I Am I correct in that or did it go on into the next morning? Well, let me That's fine. Go ahead. I'm sorry. You've got the time, so I'm sorry. So, Tuesday night

035which was March 10th, 2026, I got Jennifer and I were at home and I got a message to contact an FBI agent at a company. I made that phone call at 8:48 p.m. Called the FBI investigator that they received a tip that an online statement of threat toward Troup County High School had been made and wanted to make us aware of it. We had to get off the phone with him at 8:53 p.m. I contacted investigator Dusty Cato. Asked him to get the other investigator, Troy Calhoun, on duty and make arrangements to investigate this threat. I received an email of information the FBI had forwarded me and I forwarded on to the investigators. At 9:03 I contacted Shawn Moore, our Homeland Security investigator. Uh he was already aware of the threat and he was en

036route to Troup County to assist our officers in the investigation. At 9:09 I called Sheriff Russell, made him aware of the information we received. At 10:04 p.m. uh our investigators and Homeland Security met at the sheriff's station and asked them to go out and make contact with the person who posted this threat based on the information we had. At that time I was we were discussing public notification. Uh Jennifer and I were at that time. She didn't even mention what to post. I said, "Don't post it yet because we've got somebody who's made a threat and we don't know uh how deep this threat goes. We don't want to tip our hand. We can't release information until we make contact uh till you've actually investigated this. Yeah. And we don't want to hamper the investigation.

037Our first priority is public safety. Our second is the investigation. And third is public notification to make sure the public's aware, especially on this type of topic. Uh then at 10:42 call came from Cato where he said the interview was complete. Then at 10:46 I sent some information that I wanted posted on our website to Jennifer as well as the one to handle their Facebook post to let the public be aware of You talking about both both the school system and the sheriff's department. >> The school system and sheriff's department when Clint was here and now Jennifer's here, we make sure that we discuss the information relates to that. We're got the same set of facts so we're all on the same sheet of music. We try to make it as less confusing as possible.

038>> too. We just be accurate in our reporting. Uh the threat that we investigated and found out was a uh verbal threat. There was We found no physical actions at all going toward the school. Uh it is a violation of state law and would be a felony if you were an adult to make that statement. To what degree or what punishment may be appropriate is left up to the juvenile court system. The way I understand it, the school system does their own separate and independent investigation that doesn't track the law enforcement investigation. Their purpose is to determine if it is a credible threat based on their policy and procedures and their uh student body or a non-credible threat. Their threat assessment team looked at whatever facts they chose to look at and determined that it

039was non-credible. Meaning that it wasn't on school property. That there was no physical attempts to move toward a threat to the student body. And that was their decision based on the facts they had, whatever they may be. It just totally separate from the track that law enforcement and the criminal justice system takes. >> [clears throat] >> Okay. But the sheriff's department that he's speaking with the school system and we've always saw this the same. We want the public to be aware even of the mere suggestion of threat. >> Correct. Yeah. Credible That's not. And make them aware as raise awareness quick as we can. Right. But you're in the sheriff's department's investigation and the school system from the threat assessment team's investigation came to the same conclusion that this was not a credible threat. Am

040I on the sheriff's side? >> office would say that it was a violation of state law to make that statement. However, past that statement no physical attempt was made to make a threat. No gun was procured, no ammunition was found, no No. It's like the in a uh typical example is uh stopping case. Someone walks past a window and sees something is one thing. When somebody takes a step ladder to someone's window to try to peep in, that's something else. >> Right. Right. Right. And it's a violation of state law on the school side also because of the zero tolerance uh policy. >> It falls under that. Which is our policy, state policy, state board of education policy, and our policy. Right. And the last contact you had was 10:46. Yes, that the investigation had

041made initial contact and got an initial statement. At that time I thought it was reasonable to make sure the public was notified. Okay. All right. And with that timeline um the first post by Troup County Schools, and they did a post for me by the sheriff's department as well, um but was at 10:56 p.m. And in that post, which was approximately 10 minutes after this credible versus non-credible conversation that was had, it was communicated that we were notified of tip of mass violence at the high school. Sheriff's deputies and homeland security are investigating. So, were you investigating or were you not investigating? We were We continued >> We still We were continuing to investigate the credible or non-credible threats. >> Well, Do we investigate non-credible? You're talking about two separate issues. Law enforcement continues to

042investigate as long as facts are to be gathered. How the school system chooses to Okay, so the school system can have a different definition of credible, whereas Exactly. >> the law can have a different Okay, that's That's really helpful. Who's prepared for the people court? [clears throat] I'm prepared to try. So, Here's continued to Right. Right. In violation of state law for the threats that was made. So, with that information, I am curious then, what is the defining factor that determines a credible threat to a non-credible threat when it is still under investigation? >> a threat assessment team. Okay, likelihood of decisions based on whether or not it was done on school property, the threat was made, right? Because I mean Our school hours, I mean, there's all kinds of stuff they take in. So,

043much more credible if it's made during school hours. And Plus the information from the sheriff's department. Fascinating. Okay. Yeah, yes, but they They are the ones that have the say. Okay, so they have the say on the decision whether or not they deem the threat credible. After discussion with the police department. Okay. Um so, it was non-deemed non-credible. Okay. And then after it was deemed non-credible, to be clear, um the school system, sheriff's department perhaps, moved forward with additional security measures the next morning at all of the schools. Is that correct? That's correct. Was that the sheriff's department or the school or was that in combination of an agreed That would have been path forward? Most times when something like that happens to help ease parent concern, you will have different agencies. Uh I think

044the highway patrol had a They even showed up and they didn't have nothing to do with it. They just showed up. The highway patrol had a vehicle and an officer parked there. If the captain asked me for the password, Oh, okay. I didn't know. I just know My point is different agencies provided extra support. Right. Right. Right. It had nothing to do with the events that this young person took. It had more to do with easing parental concern. public safety problems, making sure the parents knew we were concerned and that they were in case something happened. It's for Right. So, the district had no idea that support was needed. >> case of the law, when we need something to be provided, we didn't know to I didn't We didn't know the state troopers were going

045to show up and that kind of stuff, you know. The captain of highway patrol asked me if he needed assistance. I said, "I can use a car." But I had one there, but they were also working the streets. They get called off in a minute's notice. So, I appreciate the extra help, but my main have to go work the wreck. Right. And on the off chance that there's some threat that the threat Well, it would have been increased in case we missed something. We wanted extra manpower there in case we wouldn't have thought it, we weren't aware of it, that we were able to respond. Because there is possibility Well, anything of an out, right? Credible or non-credible. Absolutely. We we We want to go that as We want to do everything we possibly can

046to provide a safe environment for our students at all three schools. And then the school took measures as well outside of the department investigation to suspend the the student in question. So, disciplinary measure was taken as well. Even though it was non-credible. >> There's a disciplinary team that looks at those type things Okay. and and and in accordance with state law goes through that process. Okay. But it was non-credible, so if it wasn't Doesn't matter. >> Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if it's credible or not. That's That's state law. Mhm. You know, they can be Oh, I'm just kidding around with Joe. Once you Once that statement's out there, state law says that's a zero tolerance offense and we have we investigate and we apply the punishment consistent with zero tolerance penalties. Which is a suspension.

047Uh different There's different It's not really a suspension. You're actually expelled from school for a calendar year. And and uh and after that And again, this is if that uh disciplinary team decides that. It's not a It's not Miss Cauffman. It's a disciplinary team at each school can decides that. And then they make that decision. And and uh at that time that punishment is said. And then uh the only person that they're suspended for or expelled for a calendar year, but they do have the opportunity under our policies to appeal to the director of schools and if deemed and if the director solely under the direction of the director deems it's in the best interest of everyone, that person may be admitted to the Trousdale County Alternative School for that period of time. Okay. Um

048with the way that the situation was communicated to parents, guardians, families through public notice on Facebook and the district website. I think it was limited to those two platforms. I'm not sure >> It was all on the news and everything. Well, that was in Right, it it did find its way to the news. It certainly did. Um but under the power of the district, the website or the the website was updated and the Facebook was intentionally updated as well for public notice. My question is, why were the parents not directly notified? There was not a direct threat. It was already communicated it was non-credible. It was communicated it was non-credible. At no point on any post >> Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. went up. No, I'm standing at the No, no, you can stand

049there and that's fine. At no point was non-credible a word that was ever used. >> We're in Tennessee, not California, okay? >> I don't know what California is. What is that? >> So, what we're saying is we as a team decided it was non-credible. >> then what's the point of being here? So, at that point in time, once we did that, What you I'm sorry, if I was I can't Once the team decided it was non-credible, okay? If that time, Miss Cauffman and everybody else put it on all your social media, okay? >> Okay, it was posted that you was not in school, correct? It was posted. >> Was you in school? Was any child in school? It doesn't matter. No child >> Was any child in school? >> No child was in school. Is

050that Is that relevant? Yes, it is. It's very relevant. >> happens and we get text messages, the kids are not in school. >> It's very relevant. >> But how is that relevant to the situation? >> non-credible. It was not communicated that it was non-credible. It was May I May I read something? >> love that. Miss Cauffman has given me a copy of the post that was posted on the school website. Yep. And I'd like to read it. >> Please. The Trousdale County Sheriff's Department investigators, along with the investigators with the Tennessee Department of Homeland Security, have identified and interviewed the juvenile that made the threatening social media post last evening and has deemed [clears throat] it to be a non-credible threat. The student has been suspended while the investigation continues. What time was that posted?

051It's not time It's not time stamped. I would It's not a clock. 9:00 in the morning after students began their day >> at the school. And my point is, as a parent, You didn't have that information before the school >> have that information. In fact, They did not say they did not. I did not. It did say >> Let me Let me Let me ask you a question. She said she didn't have that information How How did you >> the next day. How did you start your petition? What petition? Whatever you doing here, how did you start it? On Facebook? >> petition. Well, I saw it on Facebook, so that's where >> So, you started it on Facebook? Started what? Whatever Whatever you your petitioning stuff that everybody >> petitioning. I'm here advocating at the

052school board where I was invited as a parent to partner on policy and procedure. And you're meeting me with an incredible amount of emotion and tone that >> I want you to be honest. >> unprofessional and quite frankly appears to be embarrassing to everybody else at the conference table that you're sitting at. I want you to be straightforward and understand this school system I'm going to take up for the school system. That lady right there did everything she could do. You got more information than you would have ever got 8 months ago. On Facebook? On anything. Yes, and that's an excuse? Yes, I guess if you want it to be. Okay. So, everything was done to communicate directly >> On Facebook. >> with parents on Facebook. On Facebook, our school policy, it was on the

053news, it was everywhere. >> exactly? Do what? What's the policy that you're referring to? It was non-credible. The one that you're The one we're we're discussing, the one you brought to me. >> doesn't So, >> exist. my question is So, the policy states >> was communicated on Facebook, then why aren't you talking about it on Facebook? And then you're saying, "Why wouldn't we notify?" Apparently, you were on Facebook. When I got home after dropping my children off at school. Yes, because it was brought to my attention as I was turning out of the drop-off line. When I decided to go home. >> out till I got home when my sister-in-law sent me a News Channel 4 post. My husband had to call me to tell me. And there's other parents, too, that did not find

054out because we don't use Facebook. >> There's no And if you look at any district in the state of Iowa, Nebraska, Tennessee, California, whatever you want to call it because apparently you have a vendetta about anyone from not from Tennessee. So, I'm here to educate you. Yeah, I am. >> [laughter] >> What do you want to educate me on because we have If y'all want to be educated, you do that in the parking lot when we get through. The the question before us, if I'm if I'm hearing this lady right, is the procedures and the ways of notification that were used in this particular incident. >> They were not used to to directly inform the parents. What would you have liked What would you have liked to have seen done? I would have loved to

055have woken up to a text message that could have even been a copy and paste of what was on Facebook. This is not confidential information, obviously. It was put onto Facebook. It's open-source information, easily found to anybody who has Facebook who's conveniently scrolling on Facebook at that time and who hopefully has their notifications set up or scrolls long enough to find it. We did not get the benefit of having all of the information before the start of school. And I feel like that is a disservice. I understand what you're saying. Uh in your opinion, Ms. Cochran left out a a source of notification that uh you would have liked to have seen used. And I'm referring to the text message system, the mass text message system. Am I correct? I have two thoughts on that.

056>> Okay. It is a what what I would say and I I think what most everyone in this room would would agree to is that it is um a pretty understandable expectation that parents should be directly notified relating any safety concerns the environment of their children's school. It is relevant because it was not deemed non-credible before the start of school. So, It was. It just evidently wasn't made public. Another gap in communication is what we're seeing, which is a pattern now, right? So, the parents are not directly receiving direct communication. And apparently this was deemed non-credible, which would have been really nice to know and probably would have served a different outcome had it been communicated at the correct time and not posted on a public forum incorrectly, now that I'm learning. So, do we

057have a process, even if it's not documented, which because >> [clears throat] >> it's not, is there a process that deems when it's when we are notifying parents directly? Is it all safety concerns? Is it no safety concerns? Is it only snow days or 5-minute late releases? What >> Well, I I think What are we using the system for? I'm going to give you my opinion. Mhm. And Ms. Cochran, you feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Uh we do have a few different ways of notification. Mhm. None of them are perfect. I was a principal in this system for over 20 years. The mass text system is good as long as parents keep their telephone numbers updated, which they don't do. Right. I mean, I dare say that if the text went out,

058a good third or more wouldn't have gotten anything because they don't have their telephone numbers updated. That's That's been That was my experience through over 20 years as an administrator in this in this system. Solid. So, there we do not have a foolproof way of doing it because I can't guarantee you that everybody will see Facebook. I can't guarantee you that everybody will see a post on the school system website. I can't guarantee you that everybody will see a text message. And I don't know of any other way that that we could do that. Well, because the text message system may not absolutely guarantee 100% read receipts, is that a reason not to utilize it >> it is. in addition [clears throat] to the public notices? I'm I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying

059that my point is there's no 100% guaranteed way. Yeah, did not have the expectation that that would be the case. And and uh it's totally Ms. Cochran's job to determine the best way Mhm. to notify parents of whatever the event may be, as you mentioned. Could be snow, school's letting out early. Could be an incident like this. Hopefully, we won't have to deal with this again, hopefully. But whatever the incident may be, Right. uh you know, that's her decision Mhm. to to use what she feels is the best ways of communication at that time. Right. And I believe it'd be the the court of public opinion, the parents within the school system, that's by failing to utilize all methods of communication and limiting it to only public communication, which felt very inconsistent, I have to

060admit, because we get text messages and public notification for snow days, right? We are utilizing all methods of communication to ensure, while they all have their failures and their gaps, that all bases are covered and the community is is communicated to. So, I'm I'm curious why >> that? it wasn't Why would you say that because of public opinion? What makes you think that? Oh, have you seen Facebook? I know. YOU JUST SAID >> [laughter] >> I'M SPEAKING TO A I'M SPEAKING EXACTLY why Well, I I said on Facebook because it's the only way that we see you communicate. I've spoken to a lot of parents. And and I'm a parent. I have a child at the high school. And so, and I saw the Facebook post and I knew what I was And I sent

061my child to school. And I said, "Let's have a conversation." You know, this is what I told her. >> the Facebook post. But also because I trust our school system. And I think that's a very important point to >> And I have been very fortunate very fortunate to work in this school district. I mean, you heard us talking about going to school here and whatever. I've been very fortunate to see that I also work for an organization that works for other school systems and I see our safety here and I feel very confident that Did that scare me? Yes. When I saw the Facebook post, I thought, "Oh gosh, I'm not sending my child to the high school." I'd have low moment low anxiety moment. I went to her bedroom, woke her up and had

062a conversation with her. If if there was a concern there was a safety concern, school would have been called off. There would not have been school. And so, knowing that, I Did I get a little nervous? Yeah. But I felt comfortable sending my child to school. I actually this is me personally, this is not Deonna Boggs sitting on the board, felt a little more comfortable sending her to school than I would have Now that I think about it, Tuesday or Monday. A child is I mean, we see school shootings across this country all the time. I mean, that's a possibility at any point. But I also see the safety measures that are taking place. And I mean, we've done a really good job as a school district of making sure our kids are safe. People

063in the school system know me. I sat in the parking lot one time I was checking my emails and the SRO came to my my door. I mean, I just There's a lot of things that I see in place that makes me feel comfortable that our kids are safe. 100%? No, but safe. And I love that you have that trust. But when when the district lacks lack consistency and transparency, especially in setting out expectations for communication, it erodes that trust. >> you used the word consistency. I'd have This is Ms. Cochran's first experience >> The policies have been in place. She only took over in January. You were my lady principal? Well, there is no policy on parent communication. That's why I'm here. And that's That's that way That's that way on purpose so that

064you So that nobody will be held accountable >> our great can use whatever means is deemed necessary for whatever the event is. But how do parents know what the expectation is? Where is that transparency? How do we know what to expect in terms of communication from the district if if it's not communicated? Well, it was communicated. It just wasn't in communicated in every venue. A communication occurred during the incident. I'm asking about a policy that holds the district accountable and parents' expectations aligned on what we can expect in terms of communications when we have direct communication, when there is an event a safety-related event. If you had gotten a text message We would have been up all night. Yeah. >> If you had gotten a text message at 10:45 and not 10:50 at night, would

065you have said, "Everything's great. No problem. I'm going to send my child to school." Would that have made you feel confident and comfortable? Are you saying those two things would happen together? I don't know. I'm not splitting hairs. I mean, would that have solved the problem? Would you have gotten up Wednesday morning and said, "Everything's great. I'm going to send my child to school." I It's not going to solve the problem of the situation that occurred that's beyond my control. What it would have solved is that I would have had the information before I dropped my child off at school and I could have had a conversation with my husband and we would have been informed, we could have discussed what it was that we were comfortable with as parents before dropping off our children

066at school and if we were even going to do that. Instead, it was a phone call to my husband as I'm pulling out of the school to tell him what I just learned and now we're at odds of trying to figure out what we should do. Do I turn around? Do I not turn around? Why wasn't the Why weren't we communicated with? What does that mean? Um apparently, you know, a threat of mass violence sounds very credible especially when nothing tells us for perhaps 3 more hours or 2 more hours that it's not credible. That was 7:02 in the morning for me dropping off Jackson and Wyatt at school. So I I hope you understand as a parent how that feels like a gap. And is that We've all had kids in the school system.

067I'm sorry? We've all had Our kids all went to the school system. Right. Right. And And trust is really important and I know that you you made the the decision that you felt was the best decision based on the information you had, right? Um we are partners in in our children's safety and and education experience through the system and unfortunately in this situation you had the information and we didn't. Right? So that's the difference. I believe this the policy that you have says there's a 48-hour report has to be 48 hours, which is kind of what we ran on in the past. >> Tell her what number she was She has She has Tell her that I I have the policy. What you're What you're referring to is the reports. Yes, in the next >>

068has to be made within 48 hours, but we also do have um I mean, I'm sorry, what policy number are you looking at? 3.204 That's not the policy. Oh, yes, sorry. 3.204, yes, but And then I have a board community relations policy that Mhm. I don't know. Do you have a copy of it? Oh, I've got a copy of it. Okay. Yeah. Um What number is that, Rachel? 1.500 So you're saying the report within 48 hours. Is the board willing I know, let me first say I agree with you as a parent on the text message. It would it There would have been 50,000 other issues that would have went along with that, but still I don't open Facebook at nighttime, I don't open Facebook in the morning. I have a student as well. I

069understand how the text message might have relieved a little bit of my anxiety somewhat, but then again I still would have been worried because of the not knowing if it was credible or not. Right. >> But I believe in this instance we got information sooner than what we would have because this our this policy says 48 hours. So That's Yes. I think the 48 hours >> That's not a reference >> is depended upon the situation. I mean, if the investigation were [clears throat] still ongoing and there was no information then you couldn't have given out anything at that time. So I mean, I think the 48 hours is like the top of the window. By then we'll know something. But you know, just >> I was just saying that I understand. I just want to

070make clear >> in the same paragraph We don't My point is we don't want to wait 48 hours. >> we don't. I know we don't, but I'm saying this policy is in It's in the same paragraph about providing parent guardian information of credible threats. Okay. I mean, I was just saying I mean, if you don't have one fact, it may be a little confusing, but I did make the statement that we investigated, found no evidence of physical threat. But when you're talking about a termination by the school safety plan of a non-credible threat, that couldn't have occurred until after school hours. So don't please don't get our findings of fact that night confused with the school administration found out the next day cuz they couldn't have met until 8:00. Until the team got there. >>

071Yes. And that's why it went out at at what time was it? 9:00? 9:00. So I want to clarify that. What we know That's a good point. That's a good point. is two separate things and we try to be as transparent and open as we can be and still protect That makes a lot of sense because the school threat assessment team couldn't have met until they actually got to school. But does the school team have to wait for law enforcement to decide if it's credible or not? No, the facts, but they were aware of the facts we gave them. So school started before the threat was deemed non-credible >> school threat By the school threat assessment team, not by the sheriff's department. Can we just have a text message next time? I'm just going to

072say that. Let's just text it. So So school is in session. Parents were not directly communicated with. My So my child was in school and in school for an hour before the school even deemed the threat non-credible. Which school was your child at? Elementary school. So not even in the same school as But look, I get it. I understand the With all the additional police presence and public notifications about threats of mass violence and Are you downplaying my concern as a parent or are you saying that you don't I'm just saying the threat was at the When I pulled out at 7:02, I did. Apparently, the threat assessment team didn't have a chance to assess it until 40 I'm sorry, 58 minutes later. I know, but you didn't know to I'm trying to find out

073what You said you didn't know to your husband and the sheriff's department's investigation. That's right. But that's different than the school district is what you spent the last 30 minutes telling me. So why is that relevant? It's relevant because the school district administration already knew it was a non-credible threat according to the sheriff's department. met to discuss it. The threat assessment team hadn't met it. But the sheriff's department's investigation had already concluded. They're not responsible for I'm not saying they are. the school district's communication >> I'm not saying they are. I'm saying that that she she knew that. To answer your question about just sending a text, our our policy is is is like it is so that the person in charge can make the decision as to what is the best means of communication

074at that time. >> So what is the policy? Can you Can you You got it in front of you. This This document refers to a policy. It does not >> The threat assessment team 3.204, which is the policy that was provided to me, references a policy or a process, but it does not define the process. So that's why I'm here for a little bit more clarity. What is the process that we can expect? Okay. Are you wanting us to say a Take care of this. Take care of this. Stay Take care of this and then send a text message. What I'm hearing you say is you would you would prefer and you're hearing and you would prefer to have had a text message. That's what I'm hearing is the concern. Yes. I obviously direct communication

075would have empowered the parents to make decisions before sending their children to school. Do you remember high school parents who sent their children, found out what was happening, texted and called their children in the parking lot and said, "Come home." Right? Because that was within their power to make those decisions on behalf of their children. Unfortunately, they didn't get to make that decision before their child went to school. That That is part of it, yes, but I think what would make it really a lot easier is if your policy that you keep referring to, which doesn't sound like either any one really knows what it is because you're not telling me what the policy is. Um and it sounds like there's a little bit of confusion at the table here, but if there was a

076policy, I wouldn't have to be here You're wanting You're talking about it. I could look at the policy and I could understand, this is when I'm going to expect a direct communication, this is when I'm not. >> You're wanting to read this policy and say, "She should have sent a text message and she did not." That's not what our That's not what the policy is going to outline. >> The director of schools shall develop a process for providing parents and guardians information to the That's right. And that process is on credible threats of violence. You're wanting a list. It sounds like you're wanting a list of what the process is. It's deliberately >> that usually is a process. Can be called a list as well. It may be a synonym for Well, we've already told

077you the process is up to the director. So, it's it's at the whim of what the director feels. >> That is what the process It is after her investigation, after what she knows and stuff. There's no set protocol for any type of transparency, consistency, or accountability. It's just simply how the director sets that up. >> case. One of those Again, I'm going to say 30% that that I know don't have their numbers updated. >> Okay. >> Could have been here saying the same thing. >> many parents didn't see the Facebook post? That's what I'm saying. We can't That's why I said it 30 minutes ago. We can't guarantee that every parent is going to be able to see no matter which way we do it. Okay, but that's not an excuse for neglecting a method

078of communication. Well, I'm not saying we neglected anything. She made the decision She made the decision to use the methods that she felt was best. >> She made a decision to do the parent meeting >> say that's neglect. on with public notices and intentionally did not directly communicate with parents, intentionally. It wasn't by accident that a text wasn't sent. It was intentional. Well, how can you say it's intentional? I don't know. I'm I'm Is that the same way you say What was it? The 90% of people parents? How can how How can your opinion be correct? That's what I'm asking. I mean, you are you're accusing her right now. She didn't do it directly. >> facts. No, that's not a fact. That's an accusation. You don't know what the fact is. What is the fact?

079Did you do it intentionally? No. You intentionally decided not to send a text. She She used the method So, they accidentally didn't send a text. Do what? Accidentally? Um forgot to? Then why wasn't a text sent? Because she deemed that not to be necessary. It wasn't necessary even though the threat of mass violence for the bus to be late because of weather. I'm sorry. But we got a text message for the bus being late for weather. Let me ask you a question. How she deemed in that instance for a text to be Really? A bus being late for weather, but we're not going to notify parents of mass violence? Let me ask you a question. I'm going to sit here and and second guess. You're rolling your eyes when it was documented that way. Because

080anybody can do that and can make a call on any decision. How long How long have your children been in school here? What is that relevant to this going? Uh about uh well three four years. Three or four years. How many acts of mass violence have been committed here that you know about? Zero. How many? Zero. How many have been committed? How many acts of violence just like this? How many have been committed while your child's been here? Zero. No, sir. You are No, ma'am. You are mighty wrong. Am I Am I right? I guess I wasn't notified Do what? We've had serve. And this is not our first rodeo. So So, but I don't understand. That's what I don't understand. >> Well, I guess that's where I'm even further removed from communication Well, be

081glad that we have a director now that is going to let you know what you're going to know. That's going to let me know Yes. Because you you've already said you didn't know nothing about the others. And one of them was way worse than this one. >> That's good. Then why was that communication >> [laughter] >> not used then? If we had an opportunity to communicate better in communication She didn't explain nothing. Yes, I did. You said you didn't She used the methods that she deemed necessary. You don't agree with that. That's fine. That's your right. You have every right to not agree with that. >> would be why not use the method if it exists? I'm not going to speak for her. And this and and she doesn't have to. That's her job is

082to make that decision. Yep, which is par for the course. Which you don't agree with. Which you don't agree with. That's fine. It's not about not agreeing. It's why would you not want that that communication with parents? Like why would you not want that Again, I'm not going to second guess. I don't know either. That's I love that you don't know. That's >> [sighs] >> No wonder you lose your students before they get to high school because everyone's pulling their children out of the school system because they don't have a whole lot of trust. >> [laughter] >> You have a great school system and I'm glad that you have that trust sitting behind you. That's But it is it is baffling that you all are not willing to to even entertain the idea of a

083process that can be established Well, we're not willing to do that. It's making a policy that states you have to do this, this, this, and this. Isn't this how organizations are ran on policy? It has to be. It It has to be. We have a policy that gives her the discretion to use the methods that she deems necessary. But you don't agree with it. for providing parents and guardians information >> And she used that process on credible threats of violence or or significantly disrupted behavior directed toward the school actually. I think we can hear I think we can hear parents' concerns. Thank you for that. And we can hear parents' concerns I can tell that that is about a text Excuse me. About a text I'm speaking. Thank you. about a text and I appreciate

084that. I appreciate that. I knew, so I don't have to say what would I have done if I didn't know, you know. So, I can appreciate that. And I think we can hear that and I think it's helpful for us to hear that. But that's not our job to make that decision. You know, whether a text goes out or not. But I can hear that. And if I had not known and I had and I don't drive the child to school, she drives. She had gone to school and I did not know about it. I would have been worried. I would have been concerned. And I My mama heart hears that. My mama heart hears that. To Who are you speaking to? her Oh, sorry. I thought I was Cuz she said I'm going to

085say I was like why are you What are you Cuz she said all we wanted was Thank you. Okay, sorry. I was confused. Yes. Thank you. I I just I I I don't like the reference to our school system. We have a great school system. >> I don't like that that [laughter] I'm being spoken to the way that I am by this board regarding this topic that I don't feel should be so combative. Um it's very surprising to me, I will say. I didn't I I just didn't not expect. What did you expect? Well, I I expected a policy that we knows I Our lawyers tell us it's not good to have this, this, this, and this. That you have to have leeway in order to do things. Right. And But policies can can get

086can get you in a lot of trouble when they're listed like that. Listed like what? You're referring to something that isn't set. What are you talking about? No, you The point you've been making all night is you want a policy that lists if this happens, text message. A process to define I'm going to call every parent. I don't know. Whatever the process is. You're You're building a case against something that Our is from the the to use whatever she determines is the best way. Um I appreciate that that has been communicated and established. And I thank you for your time. And I look forward to the community watching this recording. And I look forward to more meetings where we can have open dialogue. We We We try to We try to meet the third Thursday

087of every month unless there's a special reason. You're welcome and everyone of you >> And I appreciate it. We appreciate everybody that comes. We may not always agree. We don't have to always agree. No. >> But we don't appreciate our parents. We don't always have to you know, >> [laughter] >> follow any code of conduct or anything. And there and there definitely doesn't have to be any manners in the room. And that's something else that I've learned this evening. So, I appreciate that and I will take the information that I have and everything that's been communicated with me and I will um do my part to escalate that to the powers that be with the state of Tennessee and I don't know if we can meet again. I can't at third Thursday of every month.

088And I'm sure that calendar is posted on the website. I don't know. It's posted on the website. >> the third Thursday of every month for the last three years. Everybody knows it's the third Thursday of every month. Right. The policy that you know, the board operates off of states that the calendar is to be posted. So, I haven't found it, but I'm sure that if that's in the policy and you all follow policy and you all follow >> Look on the website. It's posted every month. You can find all of them for the past three years there. The calendar? Yes, ma'am. Okay. For all the upcoming sessions. It's posted. It's every third month. We posted the agenda three days before. Yep. And so, the calendar is posted. There is no calendar. There There is no

089calendar. third month third Thursday of every month We'll need to address that in the policy that states that the calendar should be posted. >> It is posted. The calendar She just stated The calendar of the school. The calendar of the school is up. Right. It's not. Exactly. But I will send you that policy and you can look it over and if you're not in compliance I hope that you entertain that. Thank you for your time tonight and hope everyone has a wonderful evening. Okay. That's the last thing on the agenda for tonight. Ms. Cotton, do you have anything else? I do not. Does any board member have anything else? Hearing nothing, I would accept a motion to adjourn. Motion. Motion by Ms. Page. Do I have a second? Second. All in favor? Aye. We're we're

090adjourned. Good good. You didn't join the cooking yet. He motivated us to I will be cooking. After you cook it. I mean that's That's just like blowing my mind. Who has such a rough life? Job security somebody good. >> [laughter] >> It's just I hate that. Welcome back.

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