001Mr. [clears throat] Rust, are we live stream or not? So, we're ready. Just whenever I give you the thumbs up. Oh, okay. [clears throat] All right. If I could have your attention, I'm going to call the May 26th meeting County Board of Education to order. If you would please uh stand and we'll have pledge of >> allegiance. Thank you very much. Uh appreciate everyone being here tonight as we u take our first look at the proposed uh budget for the 2026 2027 school year. Um, so this will be more of a work session format as we review the budget, but we do have one action item that we need to take uh that's consider tonight that's on our agenda. But before we uh consider approving tonight's agenda, just want everybody to note that Tennessee statute
002and board policy 1400 state that every meeting of the board shall be open to the public except where law allows for a closed session. The agenda for the board meetings are posted on the district's website at www.wh coastschools.net and the agendas are posted at least three days prior to each meeting. Public tax of 2023, chapter number 300 and board policy 1404 state that each board meeting shall include an agenda item reserved for public comment as well as the conditions under which those wishing to comment will be recognized. A signup sheet is made available prior to the beginning of each regular meeting for those wishing to speak. Individuals who have signed up prior to the start of our meeting and who wish to speak during this portion of the agenda will be recognized in the order
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004technology staff for live or recorded viewings. Links are provided on the district website. Attending or speaking during tonight's meeting implies consent for the comments and appearances to be used. So before we cons consider approving uh tonight's agenda, does anybody have a conflict on the agenda agenda that has been uh proposed? >> Mr. Chair, as as I do each and every meeting, no conflict of interest for me tonight. Just uh want it to be known my wife is a educator in this system and um the comments that you hear from me tonight will be uh for the betterment of this district, for the the school, the staff, and and the students first. Uh and then uh everything else is just uh free after that. Thank you, Mr. McDonald. >> Mr. Chairman, >> so I do not
005have a conflict tonight, but my spouse is also an employee of this district, but there is no conflict. >> Thank you, Miss Officer. Much like my esteemed colleagues, my spouse is also an employee at the high school, but there's nothing on the agenda that proposes a conflict of interest and the remarks and opinions are mine and mine alone. >> All right. Thank you, Miss Mr. Smith. So, uh, let the agenda note that Mr. McDonald, Miss Officer, and Mr. Smith all indicated they have spouses working for the district, but nothing on tonight's proposed agenda would cons constitute a conflict for them. So with that, we'll move on to the next item on our agenda, and that's the approval of the agenda for tonight's meeting. Uh for members, you've had an opportunity to see the uh agenda
006presented for uh tonight uh and review that prior to the meeting. So uh this time I would entertain a motion for approval. >> Motion to approve. >> Motion by Mr. McDonald. I have a second. Second by Miss Douglas. Any questions, comments? And there nothing has been added and there's no uh changes that have been brought to my attention that are needed. Motion and a second. Any further discussion? Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion passes. Next item on the agenda is the proposed high high performing uh bonus reallocation. for members. As you remember, uh uh we as a district were fortunate to receive a uh a uh sum of monies from the state to uh as because of our performance uh in uh matters of education and and
007and we want to uh consider this because tonight uh we we looked at this last month and when it was brought to our attention by the director to uh how proposal to how we'd allocate this these funds Um but after uh some consideration he wants to come back and make another presentation to us uh tonight maybe asking us to reconsider how we appropriate that money. So Mr. John I will allow you to speak on that. >> Thank you Mr. Chairman. Um in your packet you have materials that we used uh the board used previously when we discussed this topic. As you know, um, Y County schools received a high performing schools bonus of, uh, in the amount of $67,142.86. Um, and the proposal was brought to the board to use that money to purchase the
008two buses that we had discussed u in a previous meeting. Uh, that get us on a better purchasing cycle for those buses. As you'll remember, we were buying two buses a year, but we were buying we were ordering them in one fiscal year and paying for them in the next, which was not really uh appropriate. So, uh we're trying to clean that up by getting ahead of that schedule. So, we wanted some of that money to go to two buses. Uh there was $100,000 in school vans that we want to replace uh from the district side. And then we gave um it was an amount about $180,000$178,350 to the schools. We broke that up based on $50 per student. So on their ADM, it broke that back out to the school. So um it I
009think it was a good plan. It was a fair plan. Um but we had some questions from on the teacher advisory board about from from our staff from our teachers uh you know feeling that they got left out of that uh in that reward money. Um one particular group asked about uh you know just core teachers, the ones that give the TCAP test or the EOCC's. Um I I replied I'm not a fan of that in White County. we kind of we live and and die as a team. We win lose as a team and um so we've always kind of held to that. So if there was any uh I replied if there was any bonus given out of this money, it would be given to the entire staff, faculty and staff, not just
010teachers because I've I value every position and I think everybody plays an important part. We all do different jobs, but we're all serving kids. And so uh I would want that to go split evenly. So, with that being said, um if if you know I talked to our finance director about, you know, in the future, we have no guarantee that we'll receive this money again. We hope that we'll perform well enough to get it again. Um but we may want to apply a rule of thirds uh moving forward in which a third would go to the schools or the students, a third would go to the staff and the teachers, and a third would go to the district for its purposes. Uh if we went back and applied that now um that amount uh that
011third a third of that amount would be $22 $22,381. Um and then that money I would um propose to be split evenly amongst our full-time staff the way we did uh the bonuses earlier in the year. Um and that we would keep the amount that was still given to the schools. The remainder would go to the district to address the bus and the transportation issues that we have. So uh what that would mean is that we would have to do a little bit more out of pull some more out of the fund balance to cover the cost of the the other bus uh more than what we are planning. So it wouldn't be just a cost net zero cost on that. Um I don't know what that number is. I I think it was in
012the $120ome $120,000 range um is what it would leave us the difference there. But, um, I'd like I'm proposing on behalf of the staff and teachers that, uh, we award that money, uh, to them in that way. And if we're going to take it away, we take it away from a bus and not from the staff. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Dar. Um, any questions on what's being asked for us to consider? I guess just mine is can you can you break that down and and give us an idea on what numbers I mean I know what we looked at in our previous meeting but can you give us some information so that we can you know make an informed decision here tonight. >> Mr. McDonald, could you clarify that question? >> Yeah. So, so we're
013going to give $22,381 to staff, all full-time staff, top to bottom, right? Is that correct? >> Yes. Faculty and staff. >> Okay. All right. So, um, what's going to go to the schools? It's still 180,000. >> Yes. 178 350, I think, is the exact number on that. >> All right. And then the remainder is what? 100,000 for the 100,00 >> 100,000. >> Okay. So, and then so what would that leave for the buses? Three >> 200 two 2 I have 226412 is what I have. >> And so with that for the buses um with the buses the amount on the buses was 336 234. So that's going to leave us about 100, like you said, $120,000 coming from GP to go to >> No, Mr. McDonald, we're going to have 133,853 from the high performance
014balance to go towards buses. And then we would basically be pulling out of our fund balance 22,381 to complete the bus purchase. So, good question. Other questions, comments? >> Mr. Chairman, I guess one of my questions would be, so how are you going to divide the bonuses up? How are you going to decide who gets what? We would divide that 202 381 by the total number of full-time employees. >> Okay. Thank you. I didn't know if you was going to like give more for the longer ones or what. >> No, if you remember that conversation we had once before that gets really messy and u you know it creates the same problem where people don't feel valued and they feel like more some people are more important than others. And so um you know that's
015a practice we've held to in White County that we win and lose as a team. So that's the way I would approach that. >> Thank you. >> So, um I think the other thing that we just have to remember that not everybody gets paid the same and so whatever that number is, some people are going to receive a little more, some people are going to receive a little less. And that's all thanks to uh the progressive uh tax and um social security Medicare uh tables that that we have based on on earnings. So it won't won't all net out for everybody gets nets the same dollar amount. >> Chad Chad, do you have a a total number of staff that we that we would be paying that money to? Not currently. We We think it
016would be somewhere in the 22 220 $250 $250 range, something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. D. Is that what we were thinking? >> I think we thought it was just just above 300, but after taxes, we thought I mean, my estimate was at 313. >> That's right. >> And then after taxes, we felt like it was going to be down the 270 range, but that was just a guess without knowing the exact numbers. So, a little north of 300 would be your gross for each person. >> Okay. But as far as sta full-time staff that we have that we would be dividing this, do you have that number? You know, is it >> 300 people? Is it I know we're the largest employer in the county, but just didn't know what that
017number would be. >> Yeah. I mean, you're looking at 600 something probably >> the my math somewhere around 650 675. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> Questions, comments? >> When would the staff receive the bonus >> be on their if if it's approved this week by the board, then it would be on their June check. The regular scheduled June meeting comes too late in the payroll cycle for for it to be in June this fiscal year and that's what we'd prefer to get it paid this fiscal year too. >> Thank you. >> So Mr. Markham just for clarity this money is coming in for 2025 26 school year. So going on and spending it now based on decision we may or may not make would be preferred. So just for clarity, if
018we in if we do move forward with this then on our capital expenditures for budget for 2627 we would need to add back in that 202 381 for uh buses transportation. No sir, I think we would go ahead and just um and do that as a budget amendment out of the 2526 budget [clears throat] because really that that money is it's just a timing issue. And so what we have proposed in the 2627 budget is what we want to keep in 2627 because that's what we're planning to order then. But what we're ordering in this fiscal year 2526, we need to do a budget amendment. We'll just need to do a budget amendment for that. >> So So you can get them ordered. You can get them ordered before the year end. So we'll be
019be fine. Correct. So nothing we need to be thinking about. Need to adjust the budget for next year >> as far as the impact on next year's budget. >> Okay. So basically we can get all this all this money appropriated this calendar this budget cycle and then we can uh have that behind us. Then hopefully have this same conversation next year about what we do with the funds. All right. So uh All right. So, board members, the uh the proposed high performance bonus reallocation is that we move $22,381 from the buses line. And then we pay that out equally to all full-time staff >> and that would be across the district. Correct. Okay. All right. So, uh that is what's being what's we're being asked to consider tonight. Any other questions for clarity on what
020uh what's being asked? I have one question, Mr. Chairman. It It's a little bit of a for forward question. Do you see it with it being a third, a third, a third each time if we receive more money in the future, will that be toward buses each time as well? >> No, the third for the district would be at their discretion of the district or what our needs are. >> But that's just what we >> right. We felt that this time. >> Well, the buses really the need the district felt like we had were the trans the vans. >> Yes. Um but we also have a district need to try and get ahead of that financial schedule on the buses. So that's where we're applying that money. >> So that could vary. Those twoirds could
021vary. >> Absolutely. In the same way that the schools could get money and do what what they need what they feel is best for their schools. >> Okay. >> Yeah. But that would be the plan moving forward to do it in thirds. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Any other questions about what uh what's being asked? >> Mr. Chairman, could you go through what the thirds look like in detail? >> Sure. >> Just for clarity. >> Yeah. For for clarity. Um do you want the the way they are now or do you want me to do the the proposed or do you want me to do both? >> Proposed especially. >> Okay. So the uh bear with me just a second, Mr. Smith. >> So if I could just speak to that quickly. Um so
022originally we had put more money in the district pot to go towards the buses to try and correct that issue and and all of our transportation needs. Um, so the third for a pure third would be $22,381 a piece. Um, we only did $178,350 for the schools because that was the $50 per student. We came up with that number and, you know, this was a little bit pulling it out of the air because we've never had this before. It's a good problem to have. There was only 22 districts in the state that had this problem. Um, and I'm not sure any of them I'm not sure how many of them did this this way, but nevertheless, those numbers are not a pure third for each one. So, I just wanted to understand that. Um, you
023know, moving forward, that would be our plan. But if we're going to go with true thirds, then that's going to change the numbers that would go to the school um that we voted on in the past as well. So, um, so the 202 381 is the true thirds and that would be my intention moving forward if we receive this again next year is just to do true thirds across each each group. So what you have right now is 178 350 for the schools. Um you have 202 381 for the teachers and that believe that would leave us 226 412 for the buses if that math is correct. >> All right. I'm sorry. >> Correct. Buses and vans. So here's um doing some quick math. um double check, but uh so we've got 202 381 that's
024going to the to the uh teachers, full-time staff. Um we have 131 133,853 for buses. We have 100,000 for vans and we have 170,9009 for the schools. Is that what you intended? Because that comes out, if my math's correct, that comes out to uh the 607, $143. Excuse me, 600. Yes, 67,143. >> I don't know if that's exact math that I had. Um, but really what we're looking at here is is changing what we were going to give to the buses and just giving it to the teachers. So, you're taking $22,381 away from the bus fund that the board had already approved and giving that to the teachers and what's remaining will go to the buses and the difference will be have to take out a fund balance which I estimate to be about $216,000.
025So, how do you want that worded in the form of a motion, Mr. Chairman? And I'll take care of that. >> Hold on. I've got to I've got to defend my math here. >> I think that's Gillan subdivision math. That's not That's not dual math. >> Um, yeah, I did. I took uh I took 202 381 from the bus fund 336 234. So that leaves you, excuse me, leaves you $133,853 for the buses and 202 381 for for the uh for the staff. If you're taking it all, you're taking a third of 607143. If you're taking a third of that and you're pulling out the buses, then that's what you're looking at. Check my math. >> All right, Miss Douglas says you're good. >> Thank you, Miss Douglas. That's what you got, too. >> I
026concur. All right. So, we're all we're all comfortable with the numbers. All right. So, u uh we understand the intent. So, basically what we're doing is we're uh going to approve the reallocation as uh as it was presented. So, entertain a motion for approval. >> All right. So, I would entertain I would make that motion to uh reallocate the funds as they were stated um just previous by you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. McDonald. Do I have a second? Second by Mr. Smith. Any discussion? I'm glad we're taking care of our teachers and staff. >> All right. Um, nothing else and all those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion passes. All right. So the next item on our agenda is uh really the main purpose while we're here is to
027presentation of discussion on our general purpose school uh school fund budget for fiscal year 2027. That's uh fund 141. And then also our cafeteria uh budget for 2027 that's 143. Um board members, we uh this isn't del deliberation time on these uh on these on these budgets. We're just basically doing a review. Uh give Mr. Drerger the opportunity to share his thoughts for what he's proposing and then we'll come back and deliberate [clears throat] on those on Thursday night after we've had a chance to uh to study on them. So at this time I'll uh go on and turn the mic over to Mr. Drumberger. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and [clears throat] excuse excuse my voice as I'm struggling with whatever's going around right now. But want to start off by thanking Mr.
028Markham for all his hard work. We've met uh several times and had several discussions about uh the budget process and appreciate his work and thank him for putting it in uh a good format, easy readable format for us uh this evening. Um start off on uh if you would look please at general purpose school budget. uh fund 141. Um you have before you uh on this workable copy um it not only shows you the um the revenues and and the expenditures but broken down between fiscal year 26 what was proposed u and then what what was actually excuse me it shows the original f fiscal year 26 and then proposed 27 and then the difference uh between those two. So overall, if you look at the bottom line on expenditures, excuse me, on revenues, um
029you see there's a $110,000 $823 decrease in revenues uh in what's proposed uh from last year. So like a less than 1% uh decrease in our revenues. Um but looking at the last page that same budget uh on expenditures we have a half a or six 67% um increase in our expenditures. So um pretty pretty remarkable really that we didn't see larger expenditures than that and we've we I've tried to um absorb some of the cost. We have rising cost of everything and certainly our salaries are going up and we're you're paying our our people much more which they deserve. Um but that comes with more benefits and more expensive um everything. And so u we tried to make some cuts and adjust some lines along the way to make compensation for that um to
030come out with a budget that was pretty similar to very similar to last year's. So with that being said, um you can look down on those columns and you can see uh Mr. Markham has provided an increase or decrease in um in those funds. Uh so there's some that are larger than others and it shows the percent change from one year to the other along with some uh notes there about what those are. So, um, don't want to rush the process, but as you look down through there, if you've studied the budget, uh, if you have any particular questions, uh, I had a few, but, uh, with Mr. Markhamm, but if you have some for us this evening, be glad to entertain any, uh, questions you have about, uh, we'll start with revenues on 141
031[clears throat] on other state education funds is probably the largest variance on that first page. Um, a little explanation on on that. >> Yes, sir. So, last year in the budget process, we uh appropriated the bonus money in the original budget uh that was passed with the vouchers. Um, and so that money was into that 46590 code. So that's that's not there this year. So you see that difference. >> You will see also there are um a few that we didn't budget anything last year, but then this year they'll have a big number. Those were some coding things that the maybe the controller's office wanted it coded a little differently, so we moved it out of one category and into another. Uh so there's some of those that you'll see as well. So if you
032see a big number decrease, but it'll show up somewhere else. So if if you take out what was the line 590 [clears throat] in that difference, we're actually ahead in revenues. Correct? If I'm reading that correctly, >> that that would be correct. Yes, sir. Yeah. Right. And in your [clears throat] on that on that really the two main revenues that we that we are including this year that we're the two main differences in revenues from last year's original budget to the proposed this year is the the voucher bonus money that's in 46590. And then also in 46515, which is the early educ early early childhood education funds, um we've received the state special ed preschool grant funding ofund around 155,000. And so that was um handled as an amendment last year or in 26 and
033we're just rolling it into the original budget this year. But other than that, um sales tax was up um a little bit there. property tax still at 33 penies. So, it's not a proposal from the county commission to reduce the number of penies to the to the school system. And then, uh, TISA based on the last estimate from April was up 125,000. So, >> and that's subject to change. The TISA estimates, they almost always go down. Uh, the last one, I don't think went down considerably, but they almost always go down. So, we'll get one more of those before the final allocation comes out. And Tissa, >> Chad, I know um with the failure of the sales tax referendum that didn't pass in this last election. Um and I know we haven't we ne we
034have never um expected that money, but what would that have done to our revenues um had that passed? If it had passed and and the the true half of that had been left with the school system and no property tax being reduced, it would have been close to about half a million dollars. >> Okay. Any other questions, comments on the revenue side? >> When will we know the final TISA number? >> It it'll be it I mean it's a June allocation, so they'll I mean I I don't know exact date. We never know when they come. But we were normally we would get three. We didn't get one I think like they used to give one in February, March, April, but we didn't get one now I think February. So, um we don't know. It'll
035be a June allocation and then and that'll take effect July one. So, >> okay. Thank you. >> So, we'll have to come back and amend our budget after we get that final allocation. >> If if it's significant, we would. If it's not a significant change, then we would probably just let it ride. >> Okay. All right. Um, so that's where revenues are coming from. Uh, did clarify something with miss with Mr. Dberger before we started started the meeting that uh uh there are as we've known throughout u past several years that we've got a staff that's really good at at finding, applying for and and winning uh grant dollars. um and that uh we haven't budgeted for anything of any grant dollars uh coming in, but uh those will take place. So our you would
036expect and we'd hope that over over time that our uh revenue we would see some additional revenues flow into the district based on uh uh what what grants we u apply for and receive. So, um just uh for clarity on that because from time to time we do add that new money in. um looks like and it's seems to me trending pretty uh pretty much in par with whether it's been where it's been uh past several years. But uh from a total school budget uh revenues uh that uh on that we're budgeting for uh 80% of that 79% of that comes from state 19% of that come is made up of local money. Any questions, comments on the uh from the revenue side? All right. Then, Mr. Dberger, you want to walk us through the
037expense side of this? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, same practice, just more pages as we break out uh all the expenditures. Um, you will see when we're talking six and maybe seven digit numbers, we're we're talking about personnel. um in most cases. Um so you'll see things where our salaries have increased so we had to make adjustments for that. We did try to absorb our positions as far as any new positions being added. um a few educational assistants and we've added some some coaching and u and some teachers in special education as we try and address the numbers of our sped population uh to make sure we have manageable um numbers in those classes and appropriate amount of supervision. And so um so as we've added those then we have um we've also tried to
038balance that with some of those that we've been able to absorb. So, um, so we just didn't hire some of those positions back where they weren't needed to try and balance that out. I think we did a good job of that. Even though we technically are adding several positions, you can see by the bottom line that the overall budget is not increasing very much at all. So, um, Mr. Markham, is there anything that is there anything that you, uh, would like to point out? is anything any of the big expenditures that would be significant changes as you look down through there uh you know I think like 7100 with the 55% change in other salaries and wages um you can see that broken out there um in our contracted positions >> right and that 71189
039is where we paid the bonus last year in fiscal year 26 uh the voucher bonus and so that's um where that money was at in the original budget. That's why you see the difference there. And then the decrease in the teachers line, that's majority major the majority of that's driven by just recoding classification changes uh from where some folks were in 116 and we've broken them out into a different code that you'll see later on down. >> I guess bringing attention to you were talking about the uh 71100. Um, I notice we we have three 120day contracts. So, um, what's the what's the significance of those um 120day or 100 day contract or a 40-day contract? What what are those used for? >> Um, so they'll bring that help back, help us, they bring some
040people back to help us in certain u situations throughout the year. Um, um, who I think who we have left on those now. Crane and uh Milson and who's the third one? Mr. Lynn. Yeah, I'm sorry. Thank you. Oh, adequately written there on on our sheet. Um, thank you, [clears throat] Mr. Markhamm. Um, yeah. So, Coach Crane, obviously, our athletic director, is on one of those contracts, so he doesn't work every day. He works certain hours a day to equal that 120 days. Steve Wilson's our uh field manager, uh, takes care of our our our playing services, and then Mr. Lynn works with our curriculum department. He does a lot with spreadsheets and and coordinating data when it comes in and disagregating data and getting it ready to turn back out to our staff and
041our teachers. Um so those are the jobs to do. We had u Miss Markhamm was on one of those. She's rolling off this year and won't be back with us and uh we've had a couple others in the past, but those are the extra contracts that we have. >> So So I if I'm reading it right, Coach Crane's on 120day or 100 day. Is it is it 100 day or 120 day? 100 day is the max and so we base it usually on 100. >> Okay. So they're based on 100 day. Okay. All right. >> And just for the record, um the proposed budget, 320,000, 320-day contracts. Uh we have three individuals listed there. They're not splitting that uh money between the three of them. There's coaches supplements that are part of that too. vast
042majority of that's the coaching supplements. >> Okay. So, just for clarity, um if a coach teaches, they would be would get a teaching salary, then they get supplemented for their coaching. >> Yes, that's correct. And our coaches supplements our scale, although still not enough, it is comparable or comparable to uh surrounding districts. I've I've solicited that information. And it is based on the base salary of our uh base teacher starting teacher salary which is now 50,000. So they're they're depending on what sport they coach and how much time they're out there it might be a 3% of that 50,000 or a 6% of that 50,000. And uh so now that scale is set if they coach a certain number of years then they get a bump to maybe six goes to 8% and so on.
043So that scale is provided to uh I think it it's on our website and um it's provided our coaches. So, um, so that that's why the increase because we we've been steadily as we've been increasing teacher salaries to get to that 50,000 base, we've also been increasing the coaches salaries accordingly. >> All right. So, I guess that that brings a question that Miss Douglas and I were just kind of tossing to one another. So, how many new teachers or how many teachers did we have that were below the 50,000 that's going to be bumped to the 50 automatically? I I don't know that. I'd have to research. I mean, whoever was new last year will be beneath it. Um, whoever starts this year will be above it, but those that will be a first year
044or have a be a second year teacher next year will have that raise if I think it was at least 1625. Um, and then we talked about how and then up to 700 more depending on where they fell in the scale. Some of them in order to get everybody evened out and on the scale. Some people were already ahead of that scale. Some were a little bit further behind. So that's why I said everybody's going to get 1625 and then some. But once they get there and then some, they're on the scale and we could tell year by year by year that they're going to I think the the step rate is like 780 is the step rate per year. Um now that doesn't mean the governor couldn't throw millions of dollars at us next
045year and we can change that step, but right now that's what it's set at as a 780 step. >> Okay. Thank you. So question for you on this is regular instructional equipment one to one class of 2032 $100,000. What line is that Mr. Chairman? >> Looks to me it's on the spreadsheet it's line 24. >> Well 7100 and then what's the sub fun? >> Oh I'm sorry. Um >> 722. Thank you. I'm sorry. That's for the Chromebooks for that class. >> Okay. For >> Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah, I remember that now. Thank you. That's correct, Mr. McDonald. So, they retain that Chromebook after graduation. again. Um I don't want to rush the process at all. Just want to just but I do want to keep it moving. If um if as you look at we're on
046page 106 of the spreadsheet. Um if you um if there are any questions, we're looking at regular instruction program and then this uh about the bottom third 71200 that's special ed program and then it starts uh the very bottom of that page it starts career and technical education. So, any questions about the expenditures on that page? >> Line 171, speech pathologist. Is it fair to interpret we didn't have those two positions last year? >> Yes. I think we had it posted, but we didn't have a we didn't hire a speech pathologist, so we we have that in the budget for this year. >> Thank you. Page two of the expenditures, we're looking at career and technical education, attendance, health services. Um there's some other student support and some more instruction program. I check any questions
047you have on those line items. >> Um, looking at 72,120189 other salaries and wages. I mean, it's a $280,000 hit. Is that one of those that we were talking about earlier? >> Yeah, that got moved up to 131. The round line right above it. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I see right above it there was a counting. So, we moved it out of one to the others. >> Okay. >> That's the same question I asked Mr. Markham when I first saw this. >> Anytime you see a 100% increase, that's that catches your eye. >> Yeah. >> Or 100% decrease. Yeah. One or the other. Is there is there savings I guess looking down at the software line 72130 um the $13,000 [clears throat] decrease in that price. Um, and I know we've we've talked about I
048Ready, we've talked about all the infrastructure that we've done with with the u relationships you've built across across those items. Is that just a relevant decrease in that or is it just an overall decrease in in the price of what uh to do business? >> A lot of those things are subscription based based on ADM. And so as your ADM goes down, you pay a little bit less, okay, for some of those things. Um, so and again, those are budgeted estimates on both. We've got quotes on most of those. U pretty pretty solid quotes, I think, on all of those. Um, but yeah, they're based on ADM. So as your ADM goes down, that that cost will go down a little bit. Okay. If there's no objection, we'll go to page three. expenditures looking at
049more um regular instruction program and you get into in the middle of the page you get in special education more career and technical and then technology is in the bottom third. So I'll pause and let you look at those lines and discuss any you'd like to pull out. 72 through uh 230 the $20,000 decrease for the TCAT. Are we just pulling away on some of the instructors or are they they picking up more of that cost? >> That's really just based on historical expenditures for that so it's more in line with where we have been expending. >> Yeah, Mr. Mark when um we went through this, he did a good job of looking at areas where we traditionally just hadn't spent those funds and so we we decreased a few of those where we felt
050like we could budget a little bit less this year. >> Yeah. How many TCAT instructors do we have? About >> four. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. four >> be your welding >> nursing welding and >> um STEM. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Excuse me, not STEM uh meatronics. Thank you. >> You mentioned that you went through Mr. Markham and looked at historically or certainly that we have not spent those funds. Do you know why we didn't spend those funds that were allocated? >> Not not 100%. um we look look back [clears throat] over six six fiscal periods and uh if it was significantly off we went back a little bit further than that just to see you know maybe where the difference would have been and and and so just tried to kind of look at
051it from that perspective but no I don't really have a firm answer on that. >> So Mr. Morgum, just expanding on that just a little bit. I mean, years go by and you budget a number that you put in. You say, "Hey, this is safe number and we think uh think that's what it's going to be, but then you see a trend over a period of time and say, hey, it's not as high as what we originally budget because budgets, I mean, it's it's a it's our best estimate on what those expenses are going to be. It's not firm numbers. So going back in and just cleaning that up can make a difference or looking at those historical trends if we're not spending that much in a given category. All right. If there not any
052big surprises on that page, we'll go to page four. Page four, the expenditure page. We're um looking at the board of education. So you can see all the huge amounts of money that you get paid to do this. Um that's sarcasm for those of you watching online. Um um yeah, travel dues um those sorts of things. So board of education also then in the middle of the page it gets into the director of schools um my line item and benefits. Um then as we get down to the bottom of the page, the bottom third, you're looking at principles. And so you can I'll give you some time to study those and look at the changes and the notes and comments. >> Do you agree with that uh that your current contract runs through December 2027?
053That's what it says. Yes. Okay, that's correct. And that increase in my salary is the 2% as it's written in the contract. Okay. I don't just give myself a raise. I just put what is in the contract. So, I'm just looking at this. There's a couple 100% decreases. The the inservice training for $30,000 [snorts] and then the other fringe benefits for 25 uh savings on that. Can you >> Yes. Yeah, I was I I think we hit the button at the same time. I was going I was going to talk about that. Um that inservice training. So that's where historically in line 196 that we had always paid for um any of your conferences or hotel stays or travel or anything like that. Um we split that up uh to be more consistent across the
054across the district and across the board where that gets paid out of. And you'll notice an increase in uh 350 or excuse me, the addition of the 355 travel line under board of education and then also a uh 524 line in service staff development. And so those funds will then be used for um for the trainings and and various conferences that the board goes to instead of that 196 line. So that's just a a coding coding change there. the other fringe benefits line. Um that is where historically we would have paid out um sick leave time to employees that had been here a certain amount of time. Um and uh we have changed that to where it is um added to your retirement. So we don't have as many people take care take advantage of
055that as as used to. So um that line is one that's not necessarily needed um at the moment. And then uh in the director [clears throat] of schools line, you'll notice the career ladder line. Uh the state wanted us to reclassify that uh how we have been coding um the CEO supplement that they send out every year and so that's got added to the 189 line. So you see that addition there. So that's why those changes are um uh in the director of school salary lines there. And Mr. Markham, did I hear you correct? Um, said that the state gives directors bonus. >> It's a it's a Mr. D can talk more to it. I know it's a certain training that you have to meet. >> Just I'm sorry, [clears throat] Mr. But >> just
056like teachers uh have to receive a certain amount of credit of tassel credit they have to take additional training and throughout the year to keep their license current. Uh directors of schools also do theirs is called CEO credit. Um but if if I attend over 10 hours or yeah over 10 hours of that training each year then I I get a bonus pack of $1,000. Um so I get way more hours than that than I need. But um but that's the that's the payback. So, is that paid? Is that just paid through us? I mean, do do we get that from the state as a return? >> Yes. Yeah. So, the state will send us that money and then once they do, then we pay it out. >> Yeah, that's what I thought. So, it's
057not extra. It comes out of the local. So, so would that money be like the stopping money that when we fill out our stopping papers when we go to TSBA? Would that be coming from the I mean because they the state sends us a check? >> I guess they send they send you a check instead of us paying it out in that case. That's the way. Yeah, we have to they send that fun those funds to the county to pay the county pays that out. Okay. All right. If there's no objection, we'll go to page five of expenditures. Um, you get into fiscal services and operation of the plant, maintenance of plant, and then at the bottom gets into transportation. So, some big numbers to look at at this one. So, I'll give you a
058few moments to look ask any questions. So question um 105. Um so that's our bookkeeper. >> Yes. Position. Okay. We Yeah, the salary was not the same it was with the previous bookkeeper. Okay. >> Basically on this page, we're taking or cutting everything and putting it towards gasoline. Again, that's sarcasm, but it's not far from the truth. >> So, one thing, >> but we did save I'm sorry, in all seriousness, you can see like a reduction in natural gas. We just haven't had Mr. Mark and went through and looked at the utilities and just saw a history where we weren't using those funds. So, we were able to back uh several of those out and help level the budget. So, do see some increase in custodial personnel. So, you're thinking that either because of uh
059additions or just uh comp adjustments that's that not just necessary positions, but just their salaries. as the salary scale increases. So, we had to increase their their pay and benefits. That makes sense. 3%. Okay. Question on I've lost it. Hang on. uh 335. What does NB mean? uh new well we had this conversation and I don't remember why I put NB there uh but it's a formula and so I think we determined >> Mr. says it stood for new balance. It's a new balance that we didn't have in the past. So, when you see that, it shows up from something that that wasn't in the previous budget. So, I don't know that. I made up that accounting term, but we're running we're rolling with that right now. But that's what the formula generates. [laughter] >>
060So, it's not a shoe contract or anything like that, right? >> No. No. >> Okay. >> And that's it's a new new balance. that 250 is that a particular building that we're looking to invest in? >> No. So, that is actually and thank you. That's a good question. And you'll notice the same thing in operation of plant custodial supplies 72610 uh 410. Those are new line items that we're that we're adding uh just for consistency essentially across the county and how that those are um funds are allocated to specific lines. And so where maybe in uh custodial supplies we had paid for that out of $4.99, we moved that up to custodial supplies. In maintenance of plant, those funds um in 335 are coming from the 499 line and the uh 717 line. Um, and
061so that's essentially going to be any kind of day-to-day maintenance operations that we do um that aren't specifically identified in the capital program will be in that. >> Yeah. Basically, what was going on, we had we had a maintenance budget. It was one big line and we were pulling everything out of that and to be more accurate. Uh, for example, Mr. Thorp, who does a great job managing our custodians and make sure our buildings are clean, his biggest gripe is he said, "I don't have a budget. I don't know how much I have to buy the floor wax and the mops." And so this is part of that he can see now he has that $100,000 so he can keep track of more closely but when it went all rolled into that maintenance budget it
062was hard to see. So uh just really just moving things from one to place and giving it its own line. >> I would commend you for that. That helps your people manage better. So similar for example on 72710 um you're basically pulling out your uh your cost for uh buses bus assistance assist excuse me bus attendance attendance and so just kind of better capture that because That's probably kind of like a supplement. Would that be correct on that? Or is that >> No, that's actual actual people that that uh work work with some of our some of our sped buses. >> If I make a mistake, they were in another category. >> Yeah, they were in 189 the line right below it where we also pay for like after hours trips like you know to
063basketball games and stuff like that for bus drivers. So, >> one other quick question. Some of these line items are directly tied to a particular person or position but the percent increase is different. So for example versus 727105. How how were those percentage increases determined? Is it part of the overall salary? >> It's based on that salary scale. So the supervisor salary scale doesn't adjust at the same percentage that the teacher scale does and and so forth. So the principal scale, same same thing. So yeah, that's just based on that scale. Joe, >> thank you. Let's hope diesel Let's hope diesel prices come down by the t start of the school year. That otherwise that probably not going to be enough money. >> Well, if we keep buying propane buses, so maybe if they don't
064touch propane, >> that'll be next, I guess. Um, as we turn over to page six of expenditures, um, finishing out transportation, we have community services, early childhood, and then capital outlay. Um, I was really proud of page five. There was lots of reductions on page five. Um, so I'll give you a chance to look at the at the numbers here on page six. And then as you get to the bottom, obviously the bottom line is that we have a just a slight 67% increase in overall expected proposed uh expenditures for next year, which I think is pretty positive in this economy. One thing I did want to point out in 73300, the community services line, um if you recall in the original budget of fiscal year 26, we didn't include the uh before and after
065school program that's locally funded. We come back and did that as an amendment. It's included here. And so that's why you see those teacher educational assistant line and u and then the instructional supplies line. Those are are related directly to that for the before and after school at Bondicoft Finley at Woodland Park. >> Yeah. Do we know about those yet? >> No, we don't. Um, we don't know. We We Well, we know we're good with this budget money through this year. We'll apply this fall for the next rounds. We won't find out till probably the spring of next year. >> And that that will get us, if I'm not mistaken, that will get us on the cycle of having all of our schools >> together. Correct. >> If they're funded. >> You know, there's a
066I mean, they're that's federal money and they're really cutting back at the federal level. So, there's no guarantee. Um, you know, I don't want to >> sound any alarms, but, you know, as we look at cutting things in budgets, I mean, that's going to be one of the first areas I look at. I mean, you've got, you know, one clo, you know, between one and $200,000 right there that that we're spending that, you know, we're not getting funding for. So, that's a year off. We don't we this time next year we'll be having that conversation, but we'll we'll see. We'll apply for that in the fall. line um 72710 reduction of bus trips. What are those trips? >> So that is uh in that line last year or in fiscal year 26 we included the
067attendance the bus attendance that's in line 164 right above there. So we just broke those out but those trips are are like the after school you know baseball those kind of trips. Thank you. So, looking down at the at the capital outlay, the the building construction, um 706, uh see a reduction of $291,000, 47.24%. You got it broke out into the vestibule at Do the gym bleachers that will park. Um those are not going to happen this next school year or what's what's the deal there? >> No, those those are scheduled to happen this coming school year. Um we're that's kind of this is kind of a gap year for us. I think a normal year is around 300,000 or so in that ballpark to put in that that uh line item. Uh so that's
068what we're doing. We obviously had a big year last year with the Doyle expenditure. Um so we're going to take this year kind of take it off and then uh look at not take it off but have some smaller projects um do our general maintenance and then we'll we'll attract start to look at we're also doing some engineering on the high school. We have engineering and architectural fees into this budget. So that that'll be the next big project that we see on the horizon and then we'll be able to look at this time next year to see if that's going to be feasible and how we might fund a project like that. >> Are you done sir? >> Yes sir. So, I understand the larger projects putting them on hold, but that doesn't prevent smaller
069maintenance items needing to be done like I know the baseball building needs some attention. Now, >> maybe other structures, too. >> Now, we have that money built in. That's what we were talking about earlier. We broke out the custodial money, but we have lots of other money in our general maintenance budget for those kinds of projects. These are just the two two specific projects that we're going to address that are what we'd consider capital projects. But anything that comes up in normal maintenance or any emergency type situations will be handled through our maintenance plan. >> Do you have a design on the vestibule or do we know what kind of bleachers we're going to use at will park? >> They do on the bleachers and what what company Mr. Rally would speak to the company
070that we we use for that, but they've been out and measured those already. Um, the vestibule, I don't have a design yet, uh, but it'll be part of the the process. Um, they have already stepped it off and looked at it. It'll be similar to what you see at Northfield, the kind of the storefront glass. It'll just kind of grab you as you come in that door and and escort you to the office area. All right. If there's not any other questions, um I really thank Mr. Markham for breaking it out like this. I think it makes it really easy to see those uh those differences and those u the percent changes I think really stand out to you. So, thank you, Mr. Markhamm, for working that up for us. Mr. Chairman, if uh >>
071yeah, go on and proceed. Uh board members, do you have anything else on our uh 141 uh proposed budget? So just uh I think just for clarity I point out is that budget that's being proposed tonight is less than 1% over what our actual expenditures or excuse me our original 2026 budget was. So as far as the increases go that it was on on a budget this size was very were nominal. So appreciate the work on on that. Uh and hopefully hopefully we can find some more funds come in u along the way. It will be Mr. uh Mr. Mr. Stronger, I think it's just for for clarity. Um, it is a deficit budget where we're over planning on our expenditures. We're undershooting on our revenues and we we'll manage to uh we'll manage to
072stay within our our revenues um the the revenues or expenditures versus the revenues, but we still there is some money that we still have to go out and try to find. So, yes, we'll have several um grants and grant opportunities through the federal government that we'll receive that won't be showing up right here. Um you don't see federal budgets till the fall is when we'll you those will come before the the board when we actually get our allocations. So, that'll change our overall number, but it won't change our our general purpose school fund budget. So, um, and just as just so I say as we're moving on here, as we get ready to shift into 143, um, if you board members, if you have questions, if you see something tonight or tomorrow, you just certainly
073reach out to me and we'll or Mr. Markham will clarify those. Quick quick question that is not necessarily about fiscal 27, but if you look at the other page here, it talks about ending fund balance proposed. Obviously, uh less than what I'd like to see, but we we did a the same thing last year. We had a deficit budget, but we knew we'd make it up on the the back end. How are we doing fiscal year 26 that might impact fund balance? >> So we I think that we'll probably be about 500,000 to the good this year. Um, so I would and if you look at that three column uh sheet that has the actual 2425 budget um the and then the budget for 2526 that is last year's original budget and so there's no
074additions or estimations into that uh that $3.7 million law or deficit there. Um and so really your your difference um so that's just carrying forward there. What we think it'll probably be is about 500,000 to the plus. >> Thank you. >> So yeah, when you look at that, [clears throat and snorts] you know, that's if those in parenthesis those deficits if we if we used every bit of that money and took it at it would come out of the fund balance, but we we haven't done that historically. So we're actually to the good. So So we as as the chairman was saying, we live in that margin. And I I will say that margin is is narrowing. And so we're you know we I think we put back almost 1.5 last year if I'm not
075mistaken. And um we're putting back 500,000 this year. So that's why we're having to be very, you know, strategic. That's why we've gone through and really looked at where we can cut uh this budget to get it to where it is this point. So, um, it's definitely something, you know, we, as I said, we we're not doing a lot with capital this year and, um, you know, thinking about 21st century, already thinking about next year's budget about where we might have to make some tighten the belt a little bit to make that budget balance. >> So, Miss Smith, you do bring up a a good point. Um, if you look at what our budget is, what we estimate it to be on July 1st, 2025, what projected at on June 30th of this year, still
076got got a month to go. Um, but on page 10 of your uh three column worksheet, Mr. Markham. Um, so basically if we're just rounding that number, our estimated, we estimate it to be 12.5 million. If we're going to put back uh a half a million, then we're looking at an estimated fund balance of of about 13 13 million, but we did fund we did fund the dual project from our capital. So just, you know, keep keep that in mind. that was that wasn't that wasn't a mistake that we got there. We had purposed and that's where we expected to be. Um so uh just for for what for what that's worth. But um pre to your point, Mr. Smith, I I do appreciate the fact that uh you know, we're looking and studying this
077uh uh these numbers and being with as far as the the budget numbers uh closely and watching them being being u tight with them because I'm with you, you know, a uh an eightdigit fund balance is is much better than a fivedigit fund balance and we typically have been in that uh you know in that uh fund balance of of the of the teams but but at the same time we're we're taking care of doing things that need needed for the district. So, um, point of clarity. Um, maybe I misunderstood what you you said that you're expecting us to be plus 500,000 for this coming year, which would it be fair to say you take the 607 and add 500,000 and that would be our ending fund balance for this year. Is that correct? >>
078Yes, sir. That's what that's kind of where we're projecting that be. >> Thank you. >> Did I misspeak on that, Mr. Smith? >> Maybe I misheard. Just >> No, I I could I think you're both correct. I think you're both >> We both can't be ignored. >> No, no, no. Mr. Smith would be correct. >> We'll check the tape. But I think um No, that's exactly right because that's the question Mr. Mark and I were having. And so, you know, again, that's what I was saying in that column, that middle column. um if you were to take that entire amount if we had spent all that then that's what you would reduce from that 16 350 but we did not we're actually going to put 500 to the good so but like I said the
079year before we put almost 1.5 million to the good so um so there's a lot of things we're looking at there to uh to try and shore up the budget that's the reason we've had a lot of reductions in this budget to make sure it's as close as it needs to be and so we're in a good position to put money back next year hopefully All right. Any other questions on the 141 general purpose school fund? Okay. If uh not then you want to go into 143 our cafeteria fund. >> Sure. Thank you. All right. Looking at your worksheet for revenues for the central cafeteria fund. That's 143. um relatively short budget. Here you can see um the charges that they receive for lunches, uh recurring items that come in for commodities and sale of
080equipment, things like that. Um and then the biggest amount of money coming from the state and the federal government for their revenues. So we have a slight increase of a 3.22% increase in revenues for that department. just by night for questions. I guess the proposed bonus that we well we approved the bonus the funding for the cafeteria workers does or does not come out of the cafeteria budget. >> It would come out of GP. I think we factored them factored them in out of How many hours is it? Five or six that whatever it computes legally to make them fulltime. So, if they're full-time, it would come out of that 202 out of 202,000 out of the GP budget. >> Thank you. We do have to be cognizant of that. That's a good point. You
081know, when we talk about raises and uh bonuses and things like that because their budget is outside, so anything we do kind of forces the hand of of school nutrition and I have to be careful. Um, she follows her salary scale falls in line with a couple of our positions on our scale. So, uh, we have to be cognizant of that when we make those changes, but we we work well together. Any comments or questions on revenues? >> The u the $25,000 reduction there in the investment income in 44110. Um what is what is S&P held separately for internet purposes? What's that? So all the funds of the county except for child nutrition funds are are invested uh together. So all general purpose school fund money is combined with highway fund money is combined with
082with uh general fund money and it's all invested together because USDA has money involved. Federal money is involved in school nutrition. That money is held separately. So it's actually in separate bank accounts held by the trustee. And so any interest that occurs on those accounts comes into this school nutrition uh fund as interest. All interest on any of the other money that the county holds occurs to the general debt service fund. Um we've just seen you we've had we've had lower cash balances uh just due to rising cost and and so on and so forth in this fund and so that's why we've reduced the the interest earnings there. Um, a few years ago we did take steps to um try to increase interest earnings. Instead of just holding that in a in a regular
083bank account, we set some money aside in the local government investment pool that was child nutrition money and we got a good return on that. But as our cash balances have dwindled, um, we've not had been able to put as much into that account into that local um, government investment pool account as we had. So, >> and then I guess you get on down into the the $189,000 proposed the 215% increase in the USDA other. Is that just the rising cost in the commodities [clears throat] and and the items that we buy? >> That's actually that seamless summer option, the the summer feeding program that they've really got into hot and they we've been doing it for a long time, but really got into it hot and heavy last summer. And so this year is
084kind of what we're projecting um that those funds will come in. Of course, that also drives up cost as well, but um but it is beneficial um financially and also to the community as well. >> Okay. >> I have a question, please. Do we know how long that no charge for breakfast or lunch is going to be? Like is there a timeline ever on that? Is that year to year? I mean, how does that work? Yeah, I think it's a couple years in its application process and then through the it's a federal federal program. So, um it's really served our families well and uh we want to continue to do that. >> Well, I'll tell you this. I wish they had it when my kid was in school because he liked to eat me out
085of house at home. >> Gee, >> it's in the jeans, Mr. McDonald. Um next thing I question I would have on that is uh m Mr. Margar. So, it looks like you're going to have to update update your point of sale um equipment and seems like that looks like that's an increase there that it's going to happen across across the board. And then um also uh other contracted services for commodity processing, delivery, and sto delivery and storage have um I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm I'm jumping ahead. >> I love I love the pace, Mr. Chairman. >> That's Well, [laughter] sorry. I'm I'm I'm reading ahead. >> I'm reading ahead. Um the um other contracted services uh for commodity process, delivery, and storage. So, >> that's a pretty pretty good increase there from 2026. >>
086It is. And so, um, we're expecting to have more commodities and and a different type of commodities than we've had, um, more chicken and stuff that actually requires processing. So, we get these bulk commodities that, uh, from the USDA, and it's held in storage, say, uh, our storage is at IWC or US Foods now, and then once we're ready for that, it gets sent out to processing. So we have a processor that actually will take that bulk food and process it into something that we can >> chicken strips. Yeah. So on so forth. So we're getting some more of that commodity money and but along with which is helpful but along with that there's some processing and storage that comes along comes along with that as well. So >> so increases our our cost just
087just a little bit. >> Correct. >> But the gains uh the gains gains worth it. I'm sorry. We can go back to revenue side again slight variance as you see that you know we have a overall 3.22% 22% increase in revenues. Uh we have a 4.54 increase in in expected expenditures. So um not quite balanced, but very very close. And Miss Savage has done a good job of monitoring the changes in food prices and changes in food companies that we work with. Um and done a good job of trying to keep us on a balanced budget in food service. [snorts] All right. Any other questions, comments for the uh cafeteria fund? >> Just one I guess comment maybe question. If you look at the three column sheet, and I know final numbers for 2026 are
088yet to be determined, but what what are our options as fund balance continues to go down? How much control do we have over some of the revenues? >> You have very little control over the revenues. um especially since we're on C. But even at that, you know, there's only so much that you're allowed to charge by USDA regulations on stuff. Um even the the um the staff and and visitor meals, you know, those are there's certain levels that you have to stay within or or you'll receive a finding through through that monitoring. So, there's not a lot to do there. But the main thing with with school nutrition is serve more meals, serve more kids, keep kids in school, get them to eat lunch and breakfast and all the things. So >> yeah, that's um
089you know, just like with our classroom funding, you know, we need students in order to generate those funds and we need to sell meals in order to generate food, school nutrition funds. Um, you know, Miss Savage was one of the last to really increase the adult food prices and she did that and got some push back, but as you can see, you know, she's very limited in the way that she can generate um funding. You know, we get some flack. You know, we know it's great when parents want to bring in Burger King for their kids and that sort of thing. It's it's a sweet treat, but one, you know, it kind of it hurts to those kids that never get that, but two, we're we're taking money out of our own pocket when we
090allow that to happen. So, um, so we're kind of, uh, strict about that. But that's just one example of many ways that we're going to have to try and watch the bottom dollar in order to keep that above, uh, keep it in the in the black. We do get reimbursed and that's why it's important to serve those meals. We get there's a reimbursement rate for every student for we get from the federal government. So that that that free meal, I mean, they're they're paying the portion, they get we get money back for that. So that's why it's really important that they take their meal and eat eat their their school lunch every day. [snorts] All right. Thank you. Any other questions for cafeteria budget proposed? Okay. If not, um, anything else, Mr. Markhamm or Mr.
091Strongberg you want to add that we need to be aware of? appreciate your diligence. Appreciate you trying to keep it uh minimal increase and hope u hope we can we can get some uh some more funds coming in from from grants and hopefully u our state allocation will be a little better than expected. But certainly appreciate you being conservative on the uh the revenue side um not to expect things that we that aren't obtainable. All right. So uh any other questions, comments on either of the budgets? Okay. So we will uh we will reconvene uh Thursday to uh deliberate on these uh these budgets. So uh be prepared to uh to come and and us uh have those deliberations with the expectation we'd be moving to to pass these budgets. um and after our our
092deliberation, our discussion. So, um if nothing else, then we'll move on to uh the next item on our business, public comment. Is there anybody on the signup sheet? There's not one. Okay. All right. Anybody in the public wishing to speak? Okay. If not, then we'll move on to next item is new business. We have no new business items and neither do we have any old business items which item agenda item number 10. So it leads to the chairman's comments. Uh again, our uh meeting on uh Thursday night, May 28th, 6:00 uh here at the BOE to uh to deliberate and vote on the 2027 uh general purpose school fund and cafeteria budget. Um our next regular board meeting will be on June 11th, 2026 uh here at uh at the BOE. So uh those are
093upcoming events. So please uh plan your calendar accordingly. So uh next item on our agenda is adjournment. So I'd entertain a motion to for adjourn. I have a motion by Miss Fowler. I have a second by Mr. McDonald. Any discussion on adjourning? Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Thank you. and we will see you on Thursday.